Jun
21
Game 69 Spillover Thread
ByIn case you missed it: Sabathia left the game in the second with tightness in his left bicep. Listed as day to day, no test scheduled. If they’re not going to run any tests on a $161M pitcher, I’m not worried.
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I’m going to pray tonight that CC is okay
Al Aceves is the shit.
What a deal off the scrap heap.
hope CC is ok.
Thank God for Alfredo Aceves. Hopefully he can get through the 5th. Robertson hasn’t pitched in a while so he could go 6 and 7. Bruney and Rivera to finish it off if we still have a close lead.
for real.
I wonder if Hughes can still throw 80 pitches or so? I could see them stacking Hughes and Aceves for CC’s next scheduled start.
And by “still” I mean “right now”, since he’s been going shorter stints recently, it seems that he might not have that endurance right now, but would need to build back up.
Nice point AJ vs Johnson on offense
remember the good ole days?
When we didn’t know what to do with six starters?
i am sure he will be fine
Tex needs a HR, so does Alex. It’s been a while.
Great job by Aceves as usual.
+1
if the yankees win this game aceves deserves the championship belt
+91
As Brett Tomko is warming up, let’s just get this out of the way: You are not smarter than Joe Girardi; Joe Girardi thought of using Phil Hughes just as you did; Joe Girardi does not think Brett Tomko is a better pitcher than Phil Hughes; Joe Girardi and his coaching staff have a reason or two for putting in Brett Tomko over Phil Hughes in the fifth inning.
Please, think of these before you post the “ZOMG, WTF IS GIRARDI DOING??!?1?!?1 I WANT HUGHES!!!11″ crap.
The annoying thing is that the announcers have been talking about this girl who works for YES instead of telling us WHO THE FUCK IS ON THE MOUND!!!!
The reason is Wang is pitching tomorrow, so they want to save him for long relief then.
Tuesday. They have off tomorrow.
my bad, but it is still true
Hughes pitched last night, and has never pitched on back to back days. it’s pretty simple
Ace has been, our scouting doesn’t suck after all people!
*has been awesome
did anyone check out those three hot girls YES just showed?
dayum
yea who were they ?
A girl who works for YES who’s on vacation and her friends, apparently.
well um, i need to head down to FL really quickly
They want Hughes to pitch multiple innings for Wang’s start. Then they probably hold him back a couple days if CC can’t make his next scheduled start. I would still go to Robertson, who hasn’t pitched in the past 2 days, over Tomko though.
Cmon Tomko, just dont cough up a run
too late
Are you kidding me? Not Brett Tomko. Him serving up 3 runs is going to be very painful for all of us. He sucks. Hughes should be good to go, why tomko?
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-442811
yea, bitch. how do you feel now??? I told you Tomko fucking sucks. no reason he should even be on our roster. that’s three games he’s blown or almost blown.
yea bitch? what is this a pick up basketball game? grow up
yea, bitch
and if hughes can’t pitch back to back, just get someone else in our pen.
I’ll say it again. Hughes pitched last night, he has never pitched on back to back days, that’s not his role and they’re not going to do that.
you were right- it was painful
Damn the Marlins broadcast just said Tomko in his career as a starter vs the Marlins is 8-2 with an ERA just above 3. Ill say this for him, he is always around 92-93 with his fastball with decent breaking stuff.
As soon as I post this, he gives up a fucking HR. Fuck Tomko. lol
First runs the bullpen allowed in eight days.
Last run was Shef’s solo shot off Aceves.
son of a biatch.
Brett Tomko, however, sucks.
ok so can we start giving girardi shit now
Aww, dang it.
God I hate Bombko.
Anyone surprised?
Tomko sucking as usual.
damnit Tomko…i thought he would’ve finished the inning.
what were you thinking?? ITS BRETT TOMKO! The guy is a useless scrub
tomko sucks
DAMNIT!
Should have been Robertson in there. Tomko is trash. Use Coke on back to back days if you have to, just don’t bring in Tomko ever again except with a 5+ run lead!
From almost-DFA’d to second out of the pen in a close game. Huh?
In the 5th inning. They want Coke and Robertson to be one inning guys. SO if Hughes and Aceves are unavailable, Robertson, Coke, and Bruney, are the 6th, 7th, and 8th, and Mo the 9th, someone needs to pitch the 5th.
Hughes threw 11 pitches last night, is he really unavailable for another inning??
yes
He has never pitched back to back. I dont know that they feel comfortable with that.
bullpen has 8 innings to fill and we expect them to be perfect, thats asking for every guy out of your pen to be on top of his game during same game, thats a lot to expect
Now it will be interesting to see if the bats come to life and can score. A nice crooked number would be preferable but a run will do.
I hope they DFA Tomko. We could use Shelley Duncan or Melancan instead of this scrub.
The fact that you mentioned Shelley robbed you of any credibility. Juan Miranda? Hey, maybe. John Rodriguez? Yeah, could be. Melancon? Totally.
i know this is ill timed, but will ramirez ever get called back up or alabadejo?
There was no other move to make.
Tomko does stink though, but this is role in the pen.
There are other pitchers in the pen..
NOT AT ALL!!! His role should be mop up duty in blowouts, not in even remotely close games. There are other arms in the pen Girardi coulda used
Exactly. He could have went to Robertson there. I know they don’t want to use Hughes back to back but anybody is a better option than Tomko out there!
I think if you are going to keep him on the team, then he needs to pitch in some high-leverage situations. You can make an argument for Roberston, but if you are on your second relief pitcher to start the 5th inning with a lead. And you need this guy to go multiple innings, then it has to be Tomko. If you don’t use him here, then you need to get him off the team.
So when are they going to bring Melancon back and DFA Tomko?
i’ve been waitin for that for months.
Once Melancon starts pitching better in AAA.
He’s got 36 strikeouts and 7 walks in 29 innings in AAA this year. Wtf are you talking about.
He hasn’t been as good since he was sent down. He has been better in June, but was not good in May.
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=453343
It doesn’t have to be melancon, but anyone is better than him.
I finally started liking Tomko but then he prompt;y gives up the lead
tomko is washed up they should dfa him and call up melancan and let him develop against mlb talent
Whatever. Then you’d start screaming every time he gave up a run.
Not really. If Melancon gets hit, it’s all part of his development. Tomko is 36 years old. He has no business being part of this team if he doesn’t produce.
that is the idea behind letting him develop young pitchers are going to give up runs, tomko is 36 years old been around for a while
washed up?? He was never good at all. He shoulda been DFAd a while ago
Kid breaks out the 3-2 hook. Ballsy.
I hope the offense realizes the game is tied now and that they have to actually score some more runs this game if they want to win.
they will wake up in the 7th inning i bet
I wonder if well see sergio mitre hes been pitching preety good in scranton.
Mitre had Tommy John on July 15th. I’d imagine the Yankees will give him more time in the minors to rehab, no?
He has looked pretty good for Scranton, and groundballers are always nice to have.
So he came back in what 10 months? because hes been pitching for a few weeks i think
Yes, Tomko blew the lead, but it’s the sixth inning. Sheesh, relax.
Tomko sucks
For all those saying they could have gone to someone else, kindly map out the rest of the game in a way that doesn’t have the team running out of relievers should the game go to extras.
Robertson goes 5 and 6, Coke goes 7, Bruney 8, Rivera 9. You still have Tomko and Hughes out there if needed. If you don’t want Robertson going 2, use Tomko in the 6th when he doesn’t have to pitch to their best hitter.
+10
Agreed. Having enough relievers for extras wasn’t really a concern until Tomko tied it.
so its not longer about Tomko pitching, its Tomko pitching to Hanley. Why dont u just say intentionally walk him?
Coghlan’s hit made Hanley come up in the inning. Otherwise he would not have faced him. And I doubt they want to use Hughes back to back days.
If Hughes is the last resort in extras then they have to go to him. I mapped out saving both Tomko and Hughes for extras. What’s wrong with using Robertson for 2? I know he’s done it in the past. He hasn’t pitched in this series, day off tomorrow, and he wouldn’t pitch Tuesday with Wang-Hughes going.
Exactly. If Hughes is not available and you are starting the 5th inning with your second reliever and he needs to go multiple innings, this is the move.
Who has their side session tomorrow?
You wanna save a better arm for the eleventyth inning???
This is what I was alluding to earlier on the previous thread. They had hit, hit, walk, hit, scoring 3 runs in the second. Since then, barely a flicker.
It seems that they get a little complacent and tend to lose their plate discipline – swinging at the first strike when up 2-0, trying to pull a pitch, or chasing bad pitches.
How do you lose your focus that quickly? By now as a team you should have seen all of the pitches the pitcher has, you are just left with figuring out location or his pattern. But even then, you should be able to adjust.
Offensively, this team and the past 4 years can just be very frustrating.
How do you know they lost focus?
What else could it be? did the Marlins starter suddenly become better than he was in the first 3 innings when they were hitting him? Just guessing. But they are down 1 run now in a game that had 9-2 written all over it.
wow, playing with fire here leaving bombko in
comon tomko are u serioussssss,
Jesus Christ, where did that ball land? The Gulf of Mexico?
hahahahaha i just cracked up hard
+1
tomko the white berroa.
hey maybe he can pitch in the hr derby
fuck
That was a hanger and a half.
OK I havent said shit about Tomko, actually complimented him a bit earlier, but now fuck him!!!!
Tomko REALLY sucks.
OH GOOD GOD! WHY WAS HE STILL IN THERE? ROBERTSON, COKE, HUGHES, ANYBODY ELSE FOR GOD’S SAKE!
oh my god
i hate brett tomko
he can’t effing finish the damn innings
tomko needs to go, kontos should replace him
George Kontos is a starter no? B-Konter
I’m under the impression that he profiles best as a reliever in the future.
Guess we’ll see.
I dont know, but bringing him up now for Tomko he’d be Hughes #2 in the bullpen. Starter with 0 relief appearances, cant be used back to back, have to be careful, etc
Ok time for the offense to score some more runs now.
THIS is why I fucking hate Joe Girardi. TOMKO FUCKING SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LEARN FROM IT YOU FUCKING DUMBASS!! Motherfucker, that is how you lose games. leave in a 36 year old scrub who can’t pitch under pressure to give up the lead
It has nothing to do with pressure. He can’t pitch period.
can’t blame girardi for the 1st HR. Heck can’t even blame him for 2nd HR. Tomko had 2 outs and had been looking good before giving those bombs up.
But yeah, he shouldn’t have pitched another inning.
I have been defending the move to use him, but I can’t defend the choice to keep him on the team.
Map that one out
You need a map to find where that HR landed.
FUCK YOU TOMKO!!
At least Volstad is 0-2?
Knock on wood….
They’re lucky to be down only one after two innings of Tomko.
W/our offense playing so bad that could very well be the ballgame.
Go to your best pitchers first. If Fish come back and we have to use Tomko for extra innings, at least you had your best guys in there. Instead now we have too many relievers and not enough innings.
Once again, the text poll is a joke.
Come on, offense.
Yep. The Fielders get the same number of votes as the Bondses?
Lol yeah. Bonds and his mother are a better combo than pretty much anyone else.
I THINK GIRARDI PICKS WHICH PITCHER COMES INTO THE GAME BY DRAWING NAMES OUT OF A HAT! THE GUY IS CLUELESS!
lol you’ve got to be kidding me
Nice. First pitch was a ball, then Melky swings at 2 balls in a row and flies out.
It’s game 69, it’s going to go back and forth. You give, you take.
the yankees seem to be giving the games they should take. that’s frustrating.
Gardner, you’re no good to us with fly balls.
(Less good with IF popups, but you get the point)
Matsui pinch hitting vs the lefty?
Does not compute.
There’s no RHB on the bench, unless Pena or Berroa count, right?
His .920 OPS against LHPs certainly contributes to the decision, but who else could they use? Berroa? Pena? Damon?
Two outs in the inning and you’d have to pinch run for Matsui if he got on anyway. Let Berroa hit there, and use Matsui later when he can do some damage.
Well, there are a lot of things that I question w/r/t this team on some days.
felipe and matty alou are ma grandma cousins
I used to love when our black holes in the bottom of the order weren’t balck holes.
Nice inning by the offense.
why the hell was tomko in? is hughes not available?
For the one millionth fucking time, no, Hughes is not available.
Hughes is not prepared to be a reliever.
Get that through your skulls.
ok, for the first time, go fuck yourself, because i came here to find out so i dont give a shit if a bunch of ppl asked already.
second of all, hughes is not prepared to be a reliever? ok. then he hsould have come in and pitched from the FIRST INNING when cc went down because THATS WHAT STARTERS DO jackass.
third, i have been away and didnt watch the game and because they lost didnt even give a shit enough to read about it.
so, in conclusion, gfys
Idiot.
oaktag. youre response is useless
You misused oaktag.
No he’s not. He pitched yesterday and he’s never pitched on back-to-back days.
thanks i was unaware
Probably not. But Robertson and Coke were plenty available for the 5th, 6th, and 7th. There is no reason to bring Tomko into a close ballgame unless he’s the last resort.
totally agreed 100%
Yankees’ fans are so fucking annoying.
In here or in general?
id say both
You’re fucking annoying
agreed
Have you ever realized how the average intelligence of posters with 1 first name tends to be rather low?
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, I’m with you.
Yankees’fans are so fucking annoying.I’m sure game threads on fora/blogs for other teams are just as short-sighted and filled with profanity.
Nice seven pitch, 1-2-3 inning fellas.
That was a quick 7 pitches.
is phil coke going in AGAIN? 4th time in the last 5 days. When the hell did Torre come back?
Who would you rather use, Mr. Brilliant?
Brett Tomko. nuff said
but for real, david robertson for 2 innings, Phil backing him up if he messes up and Mo for the save. Robertson’s cut fastball and plus curve would mow down these impatient hitters.
right now this team is just not a good team.
And that makes 10 straight retired. Where did the bats from the first three innings go? This has another series loss written all over it. not good.
i think you might be on drugs
Yes, it’s a horrible team. Stop watching the games. Please.
Can someone shut this person up?
lol its the internet man. don’t sweat it.
stop commenting please.
I don’t think I said they were horrible, just that currently they are not a good team as is playing well. Sorry I misspoke. But what in the last 10 batters have you seen that indicates they are having productive AB’s?
Dela G, how can I be on drugs, are we not watching the same team and game?
Um, it’s 10 at bats?
Who gives a shit?
There are times where they have 10 at bats where they dominate, and there are times where they have 10 at bats where they’re dominated.
The guy’s throwing a decent game.
So you could not say that instead of making all the nasty toned comments you’ve posted? But, if I am not mistaken that is 10 lossed outs leaving only 6 remaining. Do the odds suddenly change over the last 6? I have not looked at Florida’s bull pen status but I am guessing they are not as bad as the nationals.
So, am I supposed to whine about it and magically make the Yankees put together better ABs?
So who is whining? It is a comment, not a chicken little reaction.
U are insufferable
this is a top 5 in the league team. You weren’t saying anything when they scored 26 runs in 3 games against the mets, right?
15 runs against the Mets, 9 off of Santana will not happen again in that very combination. But that game is the perfect example of what I am saying now. Everything went right, they piled on, stats look great. Against Washington, they struggled.
lol tomko looks like he knows he’s gonna get DFAed.
his reaction as soon as the second hr left the bat was basically, FU&(^#) my careers over!!
No complaints here, assuming Melancon is ready, or Albaladejo/Edwar are ready to be useful.
we’ve seen the last of tomko.
hope so
i do feel sorry for tomko though. He’s a great guy, but has never lived up to his career hype that he had as a lightening armed righty
The thing where Coke points at the sky on every ball in the air is retarded.
Well, he’s just making sure they catch it.
I remember Proctor doing that, too.
Tomko sucks. Where was Hughes
seriously dude, look up and read the 10 different discussions on it
Once again, he cannot pitch on consecutive days!
Hughes is shadowing Wang. Since Wang isn’t a large black man, Hughes isn’t pitching today.
This is starting to get annoying.
I really think this dude is trying to win the ‘dumbest poster on the blog’ award.
:facepalm:
hughes can’t pitch in back to back games
Do people here think they’re smarter than Girardi or something?
Apparently so. We have 1000 future MLB managers running around here. They know exactly how to coax that extra inning out of a pitcher, and how to make sure every pitcher pitches 1-2-3 innings everytime out, and would make sure ARod never goes into a slump, etc.
Apparently so. We have 1000 future MLB managers running around here. They know exactly how to coax that extra inning out of a pitcher, and how to make sure every pitcher pitches 1-2-3 innings everytime out, and would make sure ARod never goes into a slump, etc.
dude, you’re just fucking annoying with all the sarcasm and the overuse of the ” facepalm”. just stfu.
:yawn:
yea, why not?? He really does not seem very smart at all.
So if you’re so much smarter who do you use? CC taken out early, Hughes already pitched, Aceves cannot pitch the whole game and there’s still a portion of the game to be pitched. You sue Tomko for 1-2 innings so you don’t overuse you’re bullpen. What’s your plan? Use everyone but Tomko so they cannot be sued tomorrow and tomorrow WANG pitches so you don’t know what’ll happen. So yeah that isn’t idiotic at all.
apparently he’s going to empty the bullpen for no fucking reason.
Isn’t Dave Robertson available?
Is anyone else bothered by the YES commentators today?
I usually enjoy their free-talking, but come on, we’re losing here, do they have to be THAT happy?
I can’t blame them. I’d be happy if I was in Miami and not sitting in this weather too.
There not being biased. I’d rather them be happy than LoHuddish and cursing everyone on the team.
Right, because that only happens at LoHud.
Well it sure happens here but not enough to say that it’s RAB-ish.
You have a point there.
it really, really sucks that we will probably lose this game. Its a crime that Girardi even let fucking tomko pitch 2 innings. Even worse if he isn’t DFA’d after this. He is completely useless
Because they’re down by 1 run with 2 innings to go.
If they win, will you promise to leave?
So now we use Coke and Robertson, 2 innings too late.
To the guy who was worried about who will pitch in extras- Girardi is going to empty the bullpen anyway. Now Hughes really is the last resort after Bruney and Rivera. My plan had 2 pitchers left over AND WE PROBABLY STILL WOULD HAVE HAD THE LEAD!!!!!! I HATE JOE GIRARDI!
I wasn’t worried about extras, but you need to leave some more pitchers, especially in the NL where you may need to pinch hit for a pitcher. Aceves was used, Hughes not available, and apparently Coke, after pitching on 3 out of 4 days, was only available for a couple of batters. So basically you have Robertson, Coke and Tomko to get you 5 innings to the 8th and Bruney. Not such a big deal to use Tomko.
Boston, Tampa, Toronto, and Baltimore have already won today…
yup, a loss means 4 back and the fuckin rays are catching up. thanks, girardi & tomko.
2/3 of the games against the Braves will be against pitchers they’ve never seen before: Hanson & Kawakami.
Everyone needs to take a collective breath, one game will not decide the season. People are putting Hank Steinbrenner to shame with all the panic and blusterous speech.
In our division one game just might.
We are still in line with the projections to win 93 games even with our start. We would have a safe spot in the wild card with those projections. I guarantee you we make the playoffs by more than one game.
I mostly agree, but four games to Washington/Florida isn’t “one game” anymore.
I agree…though these type of games are piling up
Oh, fuck no. We’re gonna lose the division Joba to teh eighth!!!!!!!!!!11 Fuck!!!
True, though they do need to play much better than they have the past couple of weeks, offense especially.
Everyone needs to stop cursing at each other. We understand you’re frustrated, but show each other some respect.
+1
but fuck brett tomko
Is it always so brutal and unfriendly with everyone attacking every single comment? Kind of like the LoHud posters griping about every single pitch. Ironic!
Is that an actual pin they’re wearing for Father’s Day, or is it embroidered on the jersey? A pin seems kinda dangerous, no?
That is what hurt CC’s bicep. It all makes sense now, some sick plot by Bud Selig and Theo Epstein, those sly dogs.
i’m pretty sure its embroidered. I saw the astros game today, and there was no metal coming out of the pin.
wow, it should be 0-2. Fuck this inconsistent ump
A walk to Hanley wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
It’s insane that a few weeks ago people were so worried about this bullpen. Mo/Bruney/Ace/Robertson is a really filthy pen. It’d really be great if we get an effective Marte.
Yea, that would be the best pen in the world (Red sox fans be damned)
And have Tomko replace by Melancon.
well this sucks
fuck you
why are you cursing me? i was saying it sucks because he walked hanley
jeez back back and gimme 50 feet
probably the most aggressive optimist ever. So bizarre
It doesn’t really matter if Girardi use the whole bullpen today, does it? Tomorrow is an off day.
also, everyone knows that when wang pitches, hughes will give the pen a rest for basically another off day, so that’s a good thing
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
game over.
Really? Really?
Great, now it’s realloy over…
FUCK!! We’re all gonna die!!
what is your deal seriously
Yep, Robertson could have worked two innings to these same batters earlier. Best laid plans…
Exactly.
Ugh.
Crudmuffin. The throw didn’t help things, either.
hey look the real bullpen is back
awesome job by melky there
Damn ump, gave Hanley two strikes.
Terrible throw by Melky, and a lousy job backing up by Robertson. Argh.
Girardi’s fault Posada missed the ball.
Pretty sad.
Not you too Robertson : [
fuck dis is really frustrating cashman fix the damm bullpen noww.
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
man i really feel like sighing
This team is irritating.
well robertson did a good job getting uggla. Now lets hammer their bullpen