Game 125 Spillover Thread II


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  1. JM says:

    Gaudin will let up no hits from hereon out.

  2. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Well there goes Chicago’s lead….

  3. Whitey14 says:

    It worked!! Boston just tied it up at 3!!

    Sorry, couldn’t resist ;-) I’ll go away now….

  4. Salty Buggah says:

    Sweet, we’ll need it.

    OK, offense, we have “only” 4 innings left and Gaudin needs to hold them there

  5. I am thisclose to dropping Joba in the RAB fantasy league. Thisclose.

  6. Jake H says:

    Joba was so frustrating tonight.

  7. Bugsy says:

    At least we get to see Neftali pitch.

  8. Hey, two quick outs! The rest of the inning will now take 30 minutes.

  9. Doug says:

    “Not much choice is there? It’s either this or put him in the bullpen where he doesn’t belong and, frankly, doesn’t need him.”

    just to continue, he should’ve swapped roles with hughes. not sure why this wasn’t considered. how can it be a good idea to have a young kid throw with no consistency. 7 days, 8 days, 100 days. never knows when he’s pitching.

    • Because putting him in the bullpen could open him up to an injury risk. I think that’s the reason Hughes isn’t in the rotation.

      • Tank the Frank says:


      • Doug says:

        injury for who…joba or hughes? and having joba pitch every whatever day must be real good for his arm

        • Both. The transition would most likely not be good for either one of them. I, however, believe Hughes never should’ve been turned into a reliever.

        • Zack says:

          yes giving his LESS innings is going to hurt his arm.

          /bizarro world

        • Tank the Frank says:

          Could be an injury risk for both. The Yankees tried with this last year with Joba and got burned. They’re not messing around with back-and-forth roles anymore.

          And even if Hughes and Joba swapped, Hughes would have the same innings limits and complications as Joba.

          Plus…this whole plan got a wrench thrown into it with Wang going down for the season.

    • LivefromNewYork says:

      He knows when he’s pitching.

      You can’t just “flip” him and Phil.

    • pat says:

      Relievers tend to not know when they’re pitching either. Joba is basically a mop up reliever who gets his innings in the beginning of the game.

      • Doug says:

        that’s a great role for your 23-year old phenom

        • pat says:

          Better than
          A) having him throw on regular rest until August when he reaches an inning limit and is shut down for the season?
          B) Ignoring (FUCK YEA GAUDIN!!) inning limits and throwing him to the wolves?
          C) Having him start for a couple months then go to the bullpen and max out for an inning a few times a week?

          Pick your poison bro,maybe it’s just me. I’d prefer to keep him as a starter and give him extra rest so he can pitch all season. Apparently the Yankees think so too.

          • Doug says:

            C) for me. like i said, once hughes was put into the pen, i would’ve swap he and joba once the latter was 15 innings or so away from his innings limit

      • Tank the Frank says:

        That’s overkill don’t you think? He’s been inconsistent for sure, but he’s had stretches where he’s been overpowering.

        • pat says:

          True, he’s not mop up quality of course. I was just comparing him to what bullpen role he would have. He needs innings, so mop up duty would be the most likely scenario. Although what they’re doing with phranchise would seem to contradict that.

        • Doug says:

          yes, but every since they been stretching out his starts, he’s been pounded

  10. Tank the Frank says:

    Yankee Stadium officially consists of nothing but fair territory.

  11. Dela G says:

    cmon gaudin

    get the 3rd fucking out

  12. Bugsy says:

    I call a CRUZ hr right here.

  13. Brazilian Yankee says:

    Why do our pitchers forget how to pitch with 2 outs?

  14. Reggie C. says:

    Is Gaudin really an upgrade over a depressed Duchsherer?

  15. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Okay this 2 out thing is beyond ridiculous.

  16. Dela G says:

    my god


    fucking is killing me

  17. Mike Axisa says:

    This two out thing is getting to be ridiculous. Maybe Eiland should make a trip to the mound after the second out of the inning is recording nine times a game.

  18. Lanny says:

    Theres a reason 2 NL clubs gave up on Gaudin for nothing. And one is the pitching desperate Padres.

  19. Yankee1010 says:

    Enough with the walks. The bloopers wouldn’t hurt nearly as much.

  20. Dela G says:

    throw a fucking strike 3

  21. Dela G says:

    thank god

    great job gaudin

  22. charlespoet says:

    This 2 out shit is very very embarrassing.

  23. Bugsy says:

    This is me trying to watch this game:

  24. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    White Sox got out of a bases loaded jam with Youk at the plate. Thank God.

  25. Lanny, do you actually like the Yankees? I’m just curious about this.

  26. Brazilian Yankee says:

    Watching Gaudin and Joba back-to-back = torture.

  27. Reggie C. says:

    we need base runners and Swish wants to homer…

  28. JM says:

    Fudge-Ripple cakes all over the bathroom wall! We need a rally.

  29. JMK says:

    Holy shit! What a catch!

  30. Dela G says:

    fucking marlon byrd

  31. Tank the Frank says:

    Melky has no luck. His GRITTNESS awaits!

  32. Bugsy says:


  33. Accent Shallow says:

    Melky could easily be 2-3 today.

  34. pat says:

    Daamn, nice catch marlon.

  35. Drew says:

    Dang. Poor Melkman

  36. Riddering says:

    Walk, single, or a homer?

  37. JMK says:

    Jeter has been fantastic this year.

  38. JobaWockeeZ says:

    At least the Rangers have some 2 out thing too tonight…

  39. Bugsy says:

    good god, just relentless

  40. Accent Shallow says:

    Derek’s been doing his job this evening.

  41. Mike Axisa says:

    Oh boy. This could get ugly with Neftali coming in.

  42. JMK says:

    We get to see Nef. “Perez”. I’m excited to watch him pitch.

  43. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Jeter doubles!!!

  44. Mike Axisa says:

    Heh, Sheff left tonight’s game with injury. If I was K-Rod, I’d be afraid. That team is like the Final Destination of injuries.

  45. I’m pretty excited for this. I’m hoping he busts out the 90 MPH changeup.

  46. Accent Shallow says:

    Dear Joba,

    Thanks for letting a shitty Kevin Millwood currently be the winning pitcher of record. Hopefully your next start on regular rest will be less disappointing.


    A fan

  47. Riddering says:

    *prays for Johnny*

  48. JMK says:

    Milwood could pass for Pedroia’s father if he weren’t that tall.

  49. Bugsy says:

    jesus christ. this guy is a little scary. but he has to implode sometime, right?

  50. Bugsy says:

    if he only he pulled it a little. just a little.

  51. Accent Shallow says:

    Feliz only reaches 97? Snooze. Wake me up when someone who throws hard comes in the game.

  52. Dela G says:

    feliz will have to go through tex, Arod, and 5th guy i forgot

    good luck with that

  53. Tank the Frank says:

    Greinke 12 K through 6.

  54. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Wow, Alex Rios pops out on a 2-0 count. No wonder why the Jays traded him.

  55. Mike Axisa says:

    NO WALK!!! PLEASE!!!

  56. CanoFTW says:


  57. JMK says:

    Fucking two-out walks!

  58. Tank the Frank says:

    No inning would be complete w/o a 2-out walk!

  59. Riddering says:

    Like clockwork.

  60. Mike Axisa says:

    I want to punch my TV. We fans should get free tickets whenever a Yankee pitcher walks a guy with two outs.

    Just awful.

  61. Mike Axisa says:

    Just let Borbon steal for the sake my fantasy team.

  62. JobaWockeeZ says:

    What the fuck is it with 2 god damn outs?

  63. Dela G says:

    good god

    fucking A

  64. Bugsy says:

    fucking ballpark.

  65. CanoFTW says:

    Is that 9 out of 9 two out runs today? Or was Cruz’ HR with less than 2? This is unfuckin real

  66. Reggie C. says:

    and that’s the night..

  67. pat says:

    Hahah, awesome. Somebody tell me of the texas announcers are still bitching about the new stadium.

  68. Dela G says:

    this is like a night mare that will never end

  69. Drew says:

    2 outs suck.

  70. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    This 2 out shit is fucking ridiculous.

  71. charlespoet says:

    Fucking joke. Yankees pitchers are as afraid of 2 outs as Cano.

  72. Riddering says:

    The new strategy for any team facing the Yankees: just let the first two hitters get themselves out and the rest will do itself.

  73. JMK says:

    Two reasons to look on the bright side:

    1) We are not Mets fans.

    2) The closer of the Rangers gave up 6 ER in less than an inning to Boston a few weeks back. There’s still hope.

    • ShuutoHeat says:

      Man I tried to imagine myself as a Mets fan once.

      I blacked out and when I came to my senses… I was about to hang myself. Scarey stuff I tell ya.

  74. Lanny says:

    Gaudin and Mitre were the best Cashman could do to get some depth. Good thing for a 7 game lead.

  75. ShuutoHeat says:

    Someone really needs to read the “no more 2 out runs” memo.

  76. Brazilian Yankee says:

    Girardi better leave Gaudin in there to finish this game. Might as well save the ‘pen for a game we can win.

  77. E-ROC says:

    Chad Gaudin is not good at baseball. Beating yourself just makes things worse.

  78. VO says:

    Tex homer, I’m calling it.

  79. Bugsy says:

    holy shit, talk about fire.

  80. Riddering says:

    Everyone who made idle comments about losing these games…fie on thee!

  81. JMK says:

    101. If this were the YES gun it would have registered as 113. Think we could sign Steve Nebraska, still?

  82. Bugsy says:

    neftali should stay in the pen =

  83. I’m waiting for Joba-Hughes to the pen to make some comment about Feliz.

  84. Tank the Frank says:

    Did Matsui really just hook a 97mph fastball foul?

  85. Drew says:

    Hideki can’t catch up to 95+ mph fastballs.

  86. VO says:

    Just what we need this guy hitting Matsui anywhere near his leg.

  87. Bugsy says:

    he only did that so he wouldn’t get teh BB charged to him.

  88. JMK says:

    If that hit his knee it would have turned to dust. And that was just a slider!

  89. Bugsy says:

    lol that was strike 3

  90. VO says:

    Ball 2 looked like more of a strike then strike 3.

  91. Drew says:

    That’s been a ball all day, now the ump changes his mind. Jackass…

  92. JMK says:

    And the one that was called strike three was a ball. Suppose it evened out.

  93. Brazilian Yankee says:

    Dude already throws 100 and the ump gives him 5 inches off the plate. That’s just not fair

  94. Bugsy says:

    so brad lidge just sucks.

  95. Drew says:

    Greinke with 14 K’s through 7. Dayyumm

  96. Joe looks a little emaciated out there.

  97. JMK says:

    Oh shit, there are two outs.

  98. pat says:

    I hate how gaudin ate up a bunch of innings so we didn’t have to burn through the pen. What a dick.

  99. Danny says:

    im leaving for college in maryland on thursaday, so this is one of the last games i’ll see for a while, i want them to winnnn :(

  100. Go, Damaso! Work your way back, bud.

  101. Dela G says:

    damaso got the out

    good job damaso

  102. Drew says:

    Way to go Marte. Dude could be UUUUUUUGE for us.

  103. JMK says:

    The Wendy Williams Show? It’s basically a fat Tyra, right?

  104. dino says:

    they should just shut joba down for two weeks or something and bring him back when he can make his starts on reg. rest. this spread out starts thing doesnt seem to be the best strategy.

    • Pasqua says:

      How would you account for the All-Star break? He was inactive for quite a while and pitched a gem. You can’t blame ineffectiveness on the layover. There are so many more issues that are clearly apparent.

      • dino says:

        im just saying what would make more sense, one start every 10 days or so or just shut him down until they can throw him on reg rest without going over the innings cap?

  105. Salty Buggah says:

    Wow, I was gone since the 5th and we’ve gone scoreless and given up 2 more HRs! Damn that sucks

    At least they’re burning Feliz tonight.

  106. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Come on yanks we need base runners.

  107. JMK says:

    What happened to OBP, Swish?

  108. Bugsy says:

    this is how it starts

  109. DreDog says:

    42 pitches for Feliz. He’s got to be burned for the series, right?

  110. King of Fruity Hypos says:

    Clobberin time!

  111. Dela G says:

    wow jeter, make that guy work for once

  112. VO says:

    Are there any left handers that throw 100?

  113. Salty Buggah says:

    WhiteSox = Bitches

    They better lose to us later in the week also!

  114. Bugsy says:

    well that’s nice

  115. Mike Axisa says:

    Another two out walk.

  116. Dela G says:

    cmon marte

  117. Dela G says:

    marte did an exceptional job

  118. VO says:

    Marte just didn’t want to be the only one without a walk.

  119. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Good job Marte 2ks i think hes gonna be a big piece in the final month and postseason.

  120. Tom Zig says:

    6 runs? Ain’t no thang

  121. VO says:

    Somebody needs to say the most feared pitcher was Jim Rice, then come up with this genius explanation.

  122. Drew says:

    There we go.

  123. Salty Buggah says:

    no DP A-rod

  124. Drew says:

    I may regret this but, Frank Frank please??

  125. Tom Zig says:

    Posada will have a walk off 6-run HR

  126. Dela G says:


    maybe rally time?

  127. JMK says:

    He’s leaving already? I was starting to like that pitcher.

  128. Danny says:

    aww come onn i liked that pitcher! lol

  129. Tom Zig says:

    Ron Washington not taking any chances today.

  130. Salty Buggah says:

    sweet we made them use Francisco in a 10-5 game!

  131. Riddering says:

    The Yanks are feared.

  132. Mike Axisa says:

    Francisco throws three things: a fastball, a splitter, and chairs.

  133. No, David, a three run homer would not be a rally killer. It would mean the Yankees were only down by two instead of five WITH NO OUTS.

  134. Danny says:

    lets gooooooooooooooooooooo!

  135. JMK says:

    Matsui loves the money shot. C’mon, Hideki!

  136. Salty Buggah says:

    no DP Hideki, Jorge Robbie, or anyone else

  137. Tom Zig says:

    come on Matsui, hit a HR here and I’ll never make fun of your bad knees or call you leatherface ever again

  138. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Matsui is so fucking hot.

  139. Danny says:

    crap Robbies up. crap crap crap.

  140. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Good hit Matsui.

  141. JMK says:

    The money shot!

  142. Drew says:

    Fuckin A!! c’mon Jorgie!!!

  143. Tying run at the plate. Just sayin’.

  144. Tom Zig says:

    Come on Jorge!

  145. Salty Buggah says:

    yay matsui, no DP Jorge

  146. zs190 says:

    Tying run to the plate!

  147. zs190 says:

    I’m going to miss Matsui if we let him go in offseason, he’s been all kind of awesome this year.

  148. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    niceeeee infield hit babii.

  149. Drew says:


  150. JMK says:

    Maybe our luck is evening out. Everything dropped for Texas earlier on. Our turn!

  151. Bugsy says:


    Change of luck! I love baseball!

  152. Riddering says:

    That was a lucky ass hit.


  153. Salty Buggah says:

    YES! Cmon Robbie, no DP

  154. JMK says:

    RISP for Cano? Should we be happy about this?

  155. DreDog says:

    Please Cano, I will personally shame anyone who mocks you if you come through here!

  156. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:


  157. Drew says:


  158. ALEX S says:


  159. Bugsy says:


  160. Danny says:


  161. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Sorry for caps.

  162. Riddering says:

    Oh my god. Oh my god.


  163. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    I F…… love this team this teams never quits.

  164. Salty Buggah says:

    ROBBIE!!!!! Cmon Swisha, no DP

  165. JMK says:

    I told you guys about Francisco imploding (and that we should be happy we’re not Mets fans).

    /Little Bill’d

  166. Bugsy says:


  167. Tom Zig says:

    Come on swish! You need 4 more HRs to make it to 25

  168. I hate Tom Gordon says:

    HOLY SHITE DUDES I got top piss but I cant get out of my chair. Too scared to change the luck!!!

  169. David A says:

    BUNT? after so many singles…

  170. Mike Axisa says:

    Swisher needs a smack. Stupid play to bunt.

  171. BigBlueAL says:

    Girardi = Rally Killer

  172. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Please please please please no GIDP.

  173. Jack says:

    Robinson Cano = The Fucking Man

  174. Dela G says:


  175. ALEX S says:


  176. Riddering says:


  177. Brian says:

    I hate bunting.

  178. Drew says:

    Unreal… C’mon Melk

  179. Tom Zig says:

    Why the hell do you bunt there?

  180. Salty Buggah says:

    Ah fuck the bunt! damnit Swish, cmon Melky no DP

  181. JMK says:

    If Melky hits into a DP, can we deport him back to the DR?


  182. EvoLuTioN says:


    god fucking dammit

  183. Danny says:

    doesnt anyone else think that bunting was stupid, or is it just me?

  184. Jordan says:

    That was the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.

    • Short Porch says:

      Uneffin believable. I’ve been watching Girardi do this all season. Bunting with this offense? In this situation?

      Okay. i get out of bed. Check my blackberry. 10-6 bases loaded, no outs.

      i run to the fridge. Grab a cold Sam Adams. Don’t forget the bag of chips.

      Down the stairs to the den. Flip on the tube. Cano just singled. 10-9, 1+3 no outs.

      The beer goes to the lips. Swish is bunting. Thank god he doesn’t offer on the first pitch.

      Please, please just be faking it.

      But no.

      Like that, game over.

      The most potent offense in baseball. Francisco in complete meltdown.

      Girardi, you are a complete cockblock.

    • Short Porch says:

      Uneffin believable. I’ve been watching Girardi do this all season. Bunting with this offense? In this situation?

      Okay. i get out of bed. Check my blackberry. 10-6 bases loaded, no outs.

      i run to the fridge. Grab a cold Sam Adams. Don’t forget the bag of chips.

      Down the stairs to the den. Flip on the tube. Cano just singled. 10-9, 1+2 no outs.

      The beer goes to the lips. Swish is bunting. Thank god he doesn’t offer on the first pitch.

      Please, please just be faking it.

      But no.

      Like that, game over.

      The most potent offense in baseball. Francisco in complete meltdown.

      Girardi, you are a complete cockblock.

  185. Mikey K-9 says:

    Girardi called for that?
    Cmon man.

  186. Tank the Frank says:

    Joe Girardi: Bad manager or worst manager?

  187. Mike Axisa says:

    Melky just needs to survive. Just make sure Jeter comes up.

  188. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:


  189. David A says:

    I blame the bunt.

  190. Danny says:

    wow, that sucked.

  191. ALEX S says:


  192. Bugsy says:

    nice job Girardi.

    way to fucking bunt

  193. EvoLuTioN says:

    game over LOL


    what a tease

    oh well, girardi murdered the rally by handing them the first out

  194. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Jesus christ the bunt fucking killed this inning.

  195. BigBlueAL says:

    The Rangers should go over to the other dugout and thank Girardi for the win.

  196. Drew says:

    That’s fucking shitty.

  197. Salty Buggah says:


  198. JMK says:

    That’s a painful way to go out.

  199. Dela G says:

    that pop up was idiotic

  200. Eric S says:

    I like Girardi generally, but calling for the bunt in that situation is indefensible. This one is on him.

  201. Drew says:

    I wasn’t aware Girardi made a horrid bunt attempt. Thanks for the insight..

    • Nady Nation says:

      Sorry, but even if Girardi didn’t call for that bunt, he should’ve made sure Swisher did NOT try to bunt again after he squared up on that first pitch. Mindboggling that you’d give a pitcher who recorded 0 outs through 6 batters a free out.

  202. Why the hell was Swisher bunting? Why? What the fuck?

  203. Jordan says:

    That was piss poor baseball at the end. Ultimate blue balled half inning.

  204. EvoLuTioN says:

    i can’t believe he bunted swisher, the guy is an ON BASE MACHINE

    on top of that, the guy is having a hard time throwing strikes

  205. Lanny says:

    Great call on Swisher bunting. Way to ruin the momentum, Joe.

  206. King of Fruity Hypos says:


    Worse than a blow out loss emotionally…but Texas Bullpen?

    Fuck you dudes, you gotta play tomorrow :)

  207. VO says:

    Your kidding.

  208. Tom Zig says:

    Swisher isn’t paid for his bunting skills. If it were Melky, i’d understand.

  209. EvoLuTioN says:

    unbelievable, why would handfeed them the first out when francisco was clearly struggling

  210. acb says:

    i can see bunting melky to get to jeter but bunting swisher to get to melky?

  211. Bobtaco says:

    I still think the bunt is the smart play, but it is apparent from watching until this part of the season that NICK SWISHER CANNOT BUNT.

    If you want to bunt there, pinch hit.

    Eff you Girardi. Know your personnel.

    • Pasqua says:

      I know that there is a longstanding bunting philosophy, but really, how can you advocate a bunt when you’ve just put six guys in a row on base and haven’t made an out?

  212. Mikey K-9 says:

    Why would you bunt there? I mean really.
    The pitcher cant throw a fucking strike and he calls for a bunt.

  213. Brian says:

    Way to go Joe….way to f-ing go.

  214. V says:

    Anyone else REALLY afraid that there’s going to be a big situation in the playoffs and Girardi’s going to fuck it up by bunting?

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Ill be shitting in my pants any time Girardi has a decision to make come playoff time in regards to bunting or his usage of the bullpen.

      Lets just hope for all blowouts.

    • Pasqua says:

      If he doesn’t learn his lesson here, then there’s something wrong with him. Really. If a person were to just re-watche this inning and see what that call did, I would think even the hardest of heads would realize that giving up outs is a very, very, very bad idea.

    • Nady Nation says:

      Just texted my friend that actually.

  215. Tom Zig says:

    Are we sure Girardi called for the bunt there? Or was it Swisher just trying to be too cute?

  216. VO says:

    I guarantee you the Yankees have a blowout win tomorrow book it.

  217. Pasqua says:

    Would have preferred to lose 10-5. Now I’m going to lose sleep thinking about that clusterfuck of an inning.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Foreel. I got home and we were losing 8-5 so I was like oh well no big deal. 10-5 in the last inning I didnt care whatever a loss is no big deal, but now losing like we did plus with the stupid bunt makes this game frustrating as hell.

      Luckily I didnt get to see Joba pitch tonight…

  218. Eric S says:

    I have to say it again – that bunt call was just BRUTAL. This is not the National League in the 1970s. It’s Yankee Stadium 2, no outs, 2 runners on, tying run ALREADY IN SCORING POSITION, and an on base machine at the plate. And you call for the bunt? And you keep it on after ball one? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????? Dumbest call ever. Girardi cost us that one.

  219. Lanny says:

    Swisher up against a guy who can’t throw strikes when a homer or gapper wins it. Yea lets have him bunt.

    Girardi’s little ball prehistoric crap costs another game.

  220. Danny says:

    i still cant believe he bunted…

  221. Tom Zig says:

    Well if Joba didn’t suck today we wouldn’t be cursing about Swisher’s bunt.

    • Pasqua says:

      No, sorry, I can’t buy that. You play the hand you’re dealt. The “greater issue” might be Joba, but the issue of the moment is what went down in that 9th inning.

  222. V says:

    Don’t worry guys, Girardi’s just trying to help Texas knock Boston out of the Wild Card. Right? Right? Please tell me he lost this on purpose.

  223. zs190 says:

    I’ll be a contrarian and say that in that situation, bunting is not a totally crazy idea, but this team is really bad at bunting. Jetes, Damon, Swisher, Robbie, etc are not good at laying down bunts, so they probably shouldn’t have done that.

    • Tom Zig says:

      Bunting isn’t a bad idea if the person at the plate is a bad hitter or a good bunter or the person next in the lineup is a good hitter or the person at the plate is very fast.

      Swisher is a good hitter
      Swisher is not good at bunting
      Melky is not a good hitter
      Swisher is not very fast
      Swisher is also among the league leader in walks

      Bad time to bunt

      • zs190 says:

        Yeah, I hope Joe realizes that soon, the team is not built like a national league team, most of the guys are not good at bunting so I do hope he will only do it with guys that can bunt a little (Gardner, Pena, Hairston)

  224. VO says:

    You know honestly I would have preferred to lose by 5 then go out like that. BUT at least were still in 1st by a lot, Marte pitched good and we used their bullpen. We’ll come back tomorrow and get the 7 game lead back.

  225. Little Bill says:

    Girardi has got to be one of the dumbest managers in MLB. JOE, YOU’RE MANAGING THE NEW YORK YANKEES, NOT THE FLORIDA MARLINS! He always forgets that. Also, THE GUY HADN’T GOTTEN ANYBODY OUT! DON’T GIVE HIM OUTS! Jesus Christ what a dumb move.

  226. Drew says:

    I understand many people disagree with the bunt. The thing is, there was no bunt. There was a pop-out to third. If Swish bunts successfully and we don’t score I understand your beef with Joe. Right now, you should be pissed that Swisher couldn’t get the bunt down. I understand he’s not exactly a bunt-master but you have to get it down.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      No. I understand bunting Melky to get to Jeter. In that case I would rip Melky for a bad bunt not Girardi for having him bunt.

      But in this case no way do you bunt Swisher to get to Melky.

      • Drew says:

        Look, Melky swung a good bat today. Melky flat out, has come through in the clutch this year. Melky has flat out won games. I understand he hasn’t been a great hitter as of late but, I’ll take Melky with a man on 2nd and 3rd with one out, down one in the bottom of the ninth any day.

        IF Joe called for the bunt, he had a gut feeling and it may have been the right one. Swisher just didn’t do what Joe asked him to do.

    • Riddering says:

      And that’s why you don’t call for a bunt-slumper to bunt. The odds of it getting the job are unpredictable to Sterling’s standards!

    • Nady Nation says:

      The fact that he’s not a “bunt-master” is exactly the point, though. You have a guy who gets on base at a great clip against a pitcher whose pitched 0.0 innings and given up 6 baserunners and 4 runs. Why is he bunting?

      • Drew says:

        To put the go ahead run on second and the tying run on 3rd with less than two outs. An out ties the game. Many people will disagree with the bunt there. I understand that. I just don’t get killing Joe when Swish didn’t do what Joe wanted. Joe wanted a Sac-bunt, not a pop up. (Assuming he called for it)

        • Nady Nation says:

          Because Girardi WANTED to give away an out, as you put it. Whether Swisher was advancing the runners or not, he was still giving away a free out against a pitcher who could not get any of the previous 6 hitters out. I think that’s what most people here have a problem with.

          • Nady Nation says:

            meant to say WANTED to give away an out with a great on-base guy*

          • Drew says:

            Oh I don’t disagree. As I’ve said, I understand that people disagree in general with the bunt in the majority of situations.

            My whole point is that NO ONE is placing blame on Swish for popping up and not getting the job done. Joe asked him to do something and he didn’t do it. Then, J-Hair made a baserunning blunder when he came in specifically to run the bases. Joba blew up. Gaudin wasn’t exactly stellar. I understand people are venting and the bunt is fresh in their mind but I can’t stand the hate Joe gets after losses like these (Not from you specifically, just in general throughout the fandom).

            • Nady Nation says:

              I hear what you’re saying, and I’m not at all trying to place all the blame on Joe for losing this game, especially b/c as you said, both Joba and Gaudin were awful. He just seems to make lots of questionable, by-the-book in game decisions.

  227. jersey says:

    granted girardi calling for the bunt there was definately a mistake but i have a hard time ignoring jobas piss poor performance, gaudins poor relief performance, and hairston 1st move not bein back to second base on a hard hit ball basically right at him, and swisher not getting the bunt down even if it was a bad play u get the bunt down u move the runners over and we have 2 shots to tie the game or win it…. all 4 of those players deserve just as much bashing as the skip in this one…

  228. Bobtaco says:

    Guys. By bunting there with zero outs, you but two men in scoring position. You can tie the game on a fly out, AND you stay out of the DP.

    The bunt was the correct call, but Swisher wasn’t the guy. He has already proved multiple times this year that he is incapable.

    Too bad Gardner can’t run, you could have pinch run him and had Harriston bunt in place of Swish.

    • Little Bill says:

      NOBODY WAS OUT! THE GUY COULDN’T BUY AN OUT! There was no reason to give him one. NONE! It was not the right call. It was a dreadful call and I just hope it doesn’t cost the Yankees HFA.

    • Riddering says:

      Bunts don’t exist in a vacuum!

      If Girardi couldn’t see the fallacy in asking a non-bunt pro to bunt in order to bring up our #9 hitter…well, I think he needs to eat some sweets and bring his blood sugar level back up.

    • Bobtaco says:

      PUT two men in scoring position.

      Then you have two shots to win the game on a single.

      I still think it is text book baseball, and you have to put the bunt sign on and the player HAS to execute.

      Tough loss.

      • Bobtaco says:

        I’ll say it again.

        TWO SHOTS TO WIN on a single

        TIE on a sac fly

        NO DP possibility


      • Pasqua says:

        No bunt and you have THREE chances to tie the game on a single and (possibly) STILL have THREE chances to win the game! It doesn’t make sense to bunt.

      • Danny says:

        ughh “textbook baseball” how about going along with the game thats going on?? the guy couldnt buy an out and you make a guy with 7 CAREER bunts bunt when he is a very good hitter and can end the game or at least tie it himself??

        it may be textbook baseball but its STUPID.

        • Bobtaco says:

          It’s playing the percentages. You guys ever bet?

          Swisher could have hit a screaming liner and gotten someone else picked off a base or hit into a 4-6-3 just as easily.

          You have to go with the bunt and put two men in scoring position with less than two outs.

          Then you can tie the game on a SAC FLY.

          This is not rocket science.

          I understand the frustration but it was the correct call. Just be glad this isn’t the swing game in the Divisonal series.

          • Danny says:

            i understand that, put sometimes you have to throw those numbers out the window. swisher can not bunt, he is also a slow runner, he could have also bunted in a dp. it was a silly by joe to make him bunt.

          • Pasqua says:

            The only guy I’ve ever seen win by “playing the percentages” is Montgomery Burns, and that was just TOTAL fucking luck!

          • Pasqua says:

            But seriously…

            You said, “Swisher could have hit a screaming liner and gotten someone else picked off a base or hit into a 4-6-3 just as easily.”

            This is essentially what Melky did right after Swisher gave up the out and it ENDED THE GAME. If Swisher does it, you still have an out to play with, which furthers the idea that you don’t give up outs.

            You also said that you “have to bunt” to put the winning runs in scoring position with less than 2 outs, but the tying run is in scoring position already, with NOBODY out. You have three chances to tie the game (and more) as opposed to two. Even if Melky is up there with a runner at third and 1 out, he’s just as likely to pop out or strikeout as Swisher is to do something bad in your scenario.

            • Bobtaco says:

              Right, then you have either a man on third with TWO OUTS and you need a hit to TIE.

              Or, you have two outs and a man on first, and need a long extra basehit to tie.

              Much better to have two men in scoring position with one out.

              You guys ever play chess. Sometimes you gotta give up a pawn to put yourself in a winning position.

              If you still don’t get it, then go call Joe Morgan, he will agree with you.

  229. Riddering says:

    The second Swisher popped up that bunt, I was chilled to my very bones. It was as if the dead breath of my ancestors was whipping around me in a moan of “They’re going to lose, they’re going to lose…!”

    I mean, seriously? Let Swish swing or stand there.

    Ugh, so painful. Homers don’t kill rallies. Bunts kill rallies. Anyone got a tissue?

  230. Moshe Mandel says:

    I hate to put a damper on the Grardi ripping, but two points:

    1) Statistically, that is the right time to bunt. For everyone who hates a bunt in the 3rd inning because the odds of a big inning are hurt, note that this is where the probabilities tell you to bunt.

    2) Swisher is actually a good bunter, with successful bunts on the year.

    Now, I understand Francisco struggling is a mitigating factor, but it wasnt a crazy decision.

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      7 successful bunts, excuse me.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      You would bunt Swisher with Melky being the hitter following him???? Sorry I dont take the bat out of Swisher’s hands in that situation.

    • Pasqua says:

      Does the “statistically right time to bunt” consider that six consecutive batters had reach base? I think the context is actually important. You aren’t making ANY outs, why give one up?

      • Riddering says:

        Exactly! Managing isn’t so much a science as a liberal art.

      • BigBlueAL says:

        Actually to be honest the only statistically correct time to bunt is in a tie game with a runner on 2nd (or 1st and 2nd) and 0 outs. Bunting when you are still losing is never a good time to bunt.

        • Bobtaco says:

          Why bunt with a man on second and zero outs. A grounder to the right side does the same thing and you have a chance to hit an RBI.

          It makes sense here only to stay out of the D, and put a man on third with a chance to score on a sac fly.

          Your example doesn’t work.

    • Nady Nation says:

      Francisco’s struggles are a huge mitigating factor there though. He had not recorded even one out after facing 6 batters. He was totally rattled and Girardi giftwrapped a free out for him. I don’t see how bunting, to get to your number 9 hitter no less, makes any sense in that particular situation.

  231. Danny says:

    from Pete Abe, swish has 7 career bunts. 7 goddamn bunts!! GAH im so mad.

  232. fishfin says:

    No More Bunts!

  233. Lanny says:

    Girardi is going to cost us a post season game with this over managing NL type crap.

  234. JMK says:

    You guys listening to the post-game question? “Who should be the American League MVP?” Answers ranged from Jeter, to Tex, to MELKY?! They didn’t even mention Mauer.

    • Riddering says:

      Please tell me you dreamed that in a drug-fueled nightmare and the question really was “Who is the Yankee MVP in the ninth inning this year?”

    • VO says:

      Yea, that actually made me start cracking up when I heard that. I thought Russ was going to agree with him for a second though lol.

  235. Dela G says:

    WOW WTF??


  236. Mike Axisa says:

    I still can not believe someone paid to play baseball/manage a pro team thought it was a good idea to bunt there.

    Swisher was far, far more likely to reach base than he was to get a bunt down. The tying run is in scoring position with NO OUTS, what more do you want?

    • Pasqua says:

      And your point doesn’t even consider the series of events leading UP to that decision. It’s not just “tying run in scoring position with no outs,” it’s “six consecutive batters have reached and 4 runs are in.” Why would you choose THAT moment to give away an out?!

  237. Lanny says:

    Good thing the stupid bunt takes away from Joba’s terrible job and Gaudin putting the game out of reach.

    Can’t wait to hear how Joba “threw really well”

  238. Dela G says:

    i dont blame girardi for this like some of you loons though

    not his fault swisha bunted at a high fastball

    • Danny says:

      why is it crazy to be mad at girardi? the guy couldnt buy an out, so you make someone with 7 career bunts try to bunt? Swisher would have been better off trying to get a sac fly to move the runner ovver or taking a walk.

      or maybe he would have hit into a dp, but you take your chances bc of the hitter thats up

    • Pasqua says:

      I would agree that it’s easy to point fingers, but to say those that blame Girardi are “loons” is unfair. Swisher’s bunting at a high fastball does not make Girardi’s decision any less baffling. In fact, it highlights the stupidity of the call by reinforcing that Swisher is not a bunter. I know the players play the game, but when you are forced to do something (that goes against your skill set, no less) the manager becomes complicit!

      • Dela G says:

        yeah but cmon, swisher is a good bunter, and like moshe said, has 7 bunts this year, so its not like he’s never done it before. Had the yanks won, you guys wouldn’t have even cared. It was a good idea, just failed. Oh well, you move on

        the DP was bull shit anyways, jerry was safe

        • Danny says:

          no, 7 bunts in his CAREER.

        • Pasqua says:

          You do move on, yes. But I don’t think the argument is won by calling Swisher a “good bunter.” That is very debatable. And, if the Yanks had won, I would have waited until tomorrow to rail against the bunt. I’ve hated bunting ever since a bunt killed my dad.

  239. Danny says:

    when the game was 10-5 the loss wasnt really bothering me much, but now im so angry, im glad that we have a team that never gives up, but goddammit we were so close!!

  240. Little Bill says:

    Joe Girardi is going to over manage this team into the ground. He bunts way too often and usually in the 3rd inning. The Yankees don’t manufacture runs, they wear down pitchers and mash the hell out of the ball and Girardi is giving away outs like it’s his job.

    Tonight, he bunts OBP man Nick Swisher against a guy who had allowed 6 baserunners and recorded no outs. He gave away an out for no good reason and may have cost the Yankees HFA in the ALCS.

    • Drew says:

      How many bunts have we had over the course of the last 125 games? I’d look it up if I knew where to. I’d bet it’s not a material amount. Also, not all of those bunts were called from the dugout.

    • Danny says:

      exactly this isnt the marlins, its the motherfucken ny yankkes.

    • Danny says:

      exactly this isnt the marlins, its the motherfucken ny yankkes.

    • Riddering says:

      I’m as frustrated as any passionate Yankee fan, but if Girardi hasn’t managed to over-manage the team into the ground yet and he isn’t showing a greater propensity to over-manage recently (which I haven’t seen evidence of) then…no. He’s still doing the job of keeping this team rolling.

      But there is absolutely no reason or excuse for tonight’s bunt call.

  241. BigBlueAL says:

    Anybody watching Rockies vs Dodgers, Jim Tracy is worse than Girardi.

  242. Aj says:

    Listen guys, Girardi screwed up royally, but I’m very happy that they never gave up and they worked hard for those 4 runs. Bad luck happens, but games like this show that the Yankees are a force.

  243. Drew says:

    Swish is now 0-6 with 3 K’s vs Frank Frank.

  244. Jamie G. says:

    not the wrong call, just the wrong guy…Molina should have pinch hit if you want the bunt down, he was going in the game already for Posada. Personally, Swisher could have stood up there with the bat on his shoulder and walked. Melky swung at ball three with Jeter on deck…definitely let them off the hook.

    • Drew says:

      Melky laced that ball.

      • Jamie G. says:

        Melky hit the ball well, no doubt about it, but the pitch was chest high and Jeter is on deck. Francisco was not throwing strikes and and Melky’s swing zone should have been very small, just like Matsui, Posada, and Cano. I normally wouldnt care, but he had as close to an automatic hit on deck as you can get right now.

  245. BigBlueAL says:

    Cant see the postgame but apparently it was Girardi’s call from what Ive read.

  246. Danny says:

    that call was typical from a manager who loves to play textbook baseball. but it was stupid stupid stupid. he wants to bunt? then why let swisher bat when he cant fucken bunt? if your gona leave him in then let him hit you idiot!!


  247. Tom Zig says:

    I have no beef with Gaudin. He isn’t a good pitcher nor is expected to be. He came in and saved the BP

  248. Ace says:

    Can’t wait to see the excuses our favorite RAB writers (aka the Joba Hype Machine, aka Brian Cashman’s Talking Parrots) create for Joba’s performance tonight. Will it be something like “He was too strong tonight due to too much rest”. Or maybe “This is what happens when you don’t keep him on a regular schedule”. Possibly “A future Roger Clemens type ace will have these ups and downs”.

    Regardless of what they come up with, it will be nothing less than entertaining.

  249. Gary says:

    I know that Sully when his jet stalled due to the geese strike was given the option of landing the plane in the Hudson or on GI Joe Girardi’s head. The latter may have been a smoother choice…

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