Game 130: How long will Joba go?

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Game 130 Spillover Thread

Joba Chamberlain will start the final game of the series for the Yankees this afternoon, but no one knows exactly how long he’ll go. As we learned on Friday, there is a new set of Joba Rules which will allow for Joba to take the ball every five days and keep his innings in check. This is a departure from the previous plan, which was to give him extended rest. The Yankees weren’t happy with the results they got so far, so rather than stay the course they’ve decided to alter the plan. They’ll achieve the same result, just using different means.

The plan is to keep him in a rhythm by handing him the ball every five days. The catch is that he won’t be going many innings in some of these outings. Entering play today Joba has thrown 130.2 innings, so he probably has around 30 to go for the season. He might not go that long today — the plan is to build him back up to six innings per start by the end of the season, in preparation for the playoffs, so they’ll have to skim some innings from starts in the interim.

Backing up Joba will be Al Aceves and David Robertson. Some of Aceves’s best performances this year have come in relief of Chamberlain, though he hasn’t been great in his last few outings. He did hold his own against Texas on Thursday after a four-day layoff, so perhaps he’s had time to recover. The Yanks could use a good two or three innings out of him today. If they can get four from Joba and three from Aceves and Robertson, they should be set up to toss Hughes and Mo to close it out.

That, of course, depends on the offense. They’ll get their chance against Freddy Garcia. You might remember that the Yanks expressed interest in the righty prior to the season, but he ended up signing with the Mets. That experiment didn’t last long, as the Mets jettisoned him before he could make a major league appearance. The White Sox later picked him up, and have given him two starts to date.

Those starts haven’t been all that great. He allowed five runs in 4.1 innings to the Royals his first time out, though that could have been shaking off the rust. Last time out he faced the Red Sox and allowed three runs over 6.1 innings. He used only 93 pitches in that span, so perhaps Freddy is coming around to be a serviceable pitcher for a second-tier team. Hopefully the Yanks get to him before he fully comes around.

There was a complaint about Melky starting in our Twitter feed. I have no problem with this. He’s the starter. He got a day off yesterday, and that’s fine. Good even, considering how he’s been slumping. Now he’s back in the lineup. We’ll see if he can start swinging the bat a bit better.

Lineup:

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Eric Hinske, RF
9. Melky Cabrera, CF

And on the mound, number sixty-two, Joba Chamberlain.

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Game 130 Spillover Thread
  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Did anyone see John Kruk’s rant on Baseball Tonight about Joba? Classic douche.

    • VO

      What’d he say this time.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        He’s still wonder ing if he is a reliever or a starter, he doesn’t know. He’s just one these “old school” guys who wonder why the give these young guys the “kid gloves treatment”. Neither Winfield or Gammons came to Kruk’s defense, they just sat there.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          -On one side we have Dr James Andrews, Dr Frank Jobe, years and years of studies and stacks of data, which lead to their recommendations. There’s little debate among Sports Orthopedic surgeons, they all seem to agree on these guidelines (from what I’ve read) and have even pushed to have them incorporated all the way down to Little League.

          -On the other side we have John Kruk, who wasn’t even a pitcher.

          You decide who to believe.

    • Little Bill

      Kruk said the Yankees need to decide whether Joba is a starter or a reliever. WTF? HE’S BEEN A STARTER ALL YEAR! Right now they are trying to limit his innings so he can pitch in more meaningful games in October. Even the host knew this. Kruk is an idiot and Dave Winfield sucks as an analyst.

      • Drew

        Eh, I think Winfield is a victim of his surroundings. It’s hard to have good analysis around Kruk and Co.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      I’m just wondering: Why does anyone still listen to or care about what John Kruk says? In fact, since MLB Tonight debuted on the MLB Network, I haven’t watched BBTN at all. It’s gone from useless to irrelevant, and John Kruk is a big reason why.

    • Riddering

      The worst part was his comments when they compared Joba to Felix.

      How can anyone with any baseball knowledge look at 3 years in the bigs (really 2.5, really 1.5 as a starter at the end of this year) vs. 5 years and compliment “non pampering” for the reason that the 5 yr guy is pitching more innings?

  • Drew

    Over under 2 hits from Jeter today?
    I’ll take the over.

    • Dela G

      manits a lefty today… should be about 2, so push

      • Dela G

        man it’s **

      • Drew

        Righty* Yeah, but it’s Freddy Garcia..

        • Dela G

          oh haha i forgot garcia was right handed. I thought it was john danks today. Oh well

    • Riddering

      He’s going to beat Lou’s record today by pinch hitting for everyone.

  • Accent Shallow

    Do I detect cracks in the RAB facade?

    Kidding, kidding!

  • Dela G

    Lets go yanks today!

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Girardi was talking about Joba being used ‘like its Spring training’. A first outing in March would be about 50 pitches or thereabouts, so that’s what I’m expecting today.

    I’ll guess Joba goes 3 today.

    • whozat

      Are the Sox disciplined enough to just take and take and take? If they do, will Joba keep trying to pick off the corners, and then throw 3-2 sliders?

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        There’s a simple answer to that. Throw strikes.

        Joba’s stuff is good enough he can come over the plate with it, and I think that’s been his problem when he’s struggled. Not being aggressive enough in the strike zone.

        I’m hopeful these short stints will make him pitch more like he did as a reliever, and stop nibbling and going 3-2 on every batter.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Yep, Kay and Leiter just said it. 3 innings for Joba today.

      • Accent Shallow

        Here’s hoping he can do that on 40-50 pitches, instead of 65+

  • Steve H

    Wasn’t Cashman teh suxor for not getting Freddy Garcia in the 1st place. Yeah, I remember a ton of those nonsensical comments in the offseason.

  • Steve H

    Any chance Joba has been on a pitch count all year, instead of an innings count? It could even be broken down into high leverage/non-high leverage pitches. Maybe that’s why they don’t seem too concerned with the +30 innings, as he will likely pass that, but they are still being very careful.

    • Accent Shallow

      I’m sure the Yankees are doing something more sophisticated to chart his workload rather than just counting innings. Could be by batters faced, pitches thrown, etc etc

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Yeah, but Pitches thrown and Innings pitched are usually within a range of a few pitches per inning for most pitchers.

  • Lanny

    It’s really too bad that Wang was horrible this year. This wouldn’t even be an issue right now. Joba would have been near his limit and they would have segued him into the pen to finish the year.

    • Dela G

      if wang was 2008 wang, we are already at 90 wins

      i guarantee it

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    If Joba is on a limited pitching schedule, I hope he goes balls out on all of his pitches.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Bingo.

      Good morning, Good afternoon and Good night.

  • Zack

    I hate the 3-4 inning idea. You have a 7 game lead for a reason, take advantage of it. He has what 6 starts left in the regular season? Cut that down to 4 and limit him to 5IP and you’re at 20. As the 4th starter he’s only going to start 3 games max in the playoffs, so thats 15-18 innings.
    He was great after he had the AS break and that was an extended period.

    • Tank the Frank

      I pretty much agree with you. But I think the idea is to have him keep going on regular rest – keep him in a groove – going into the postseason instead of shutting him down early.

      • Zack

        I agree groove is important. That’s why you skip starts now, and let him have 3 starts on normal rest prior to the postseason.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      But they tried that, and the long rest affected him adversely.

      I like the new plan.

  • John Duci

    What if Joba has a no hitter threw 4? Does Joe leave him untill he lets up a hit or does he pull him with a no-no in the 5th?

    • Accent Shallow

      There goes that concern.

  • Tank the Frank

    Joba’s got the socks up. He’s not screwing around anymore!

  • Drew

    Oh fuck

  • Salty Buggah

    That stunk.

  • Accent Shallow

    Podsednik’s continued employment on a major league roster offends me.

  • Dela G

    well that wasn’t a great start…

  • Salty Buggah

    That was a weak as triple, I thought that was a groundout

  • Tony

    Hinske is real bad in the field. Real bad.

    • Drew

      Not much he could’ve done on that one.

  • Tank the Frank

    That seems like a play Teixeira should make easily…to me anyway.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    If Brett Gardner turns into Scott Podsednik, would you be okay with it?

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      I think that’s exactly what he is.

    • Zack

      2005 version? Yes, but with a better SB:CS ratio

    • Accent Shallow

      I’m assuming you mean “Podsednik with the ability to play a competent CF”.

      I think Gardner can be better than that, solely because he seems to be a much higher percentage thief than Pods.

    • Dela G

      if he turns into this year’s podsednik? yeah i’m down

    • Drew

      Not particularly.

  • Dela G

    well that was a good way of getting out of that

  • JobaWockeeZ

    It’s Jorge’s fault. Even Mitre and Guadin 1 hit them yesterday with Molina catching.

    I kid, I kid.

  • Riddering

    I just hope something good comes out of these constant adjustments for Joba’s usage. Not that I don’t more than agree with the reasoning and I do think this is the best they’ve done yet to keep Joba injury free when switching things around. Hopefully some more consistency will benefit him for the postseason and doubly so next year.

  • baravelli

    Frankly, that was a good-looking inning for Joba. Seemed to be attacking the zone.

  • Salty Buggah

    9 pitches are good I guess.

  • Accent Shallow

    Tough talk from a guy whose nickname is “Stacy Q”

  • Tampa Yankee

    With Boston and TB facing Halladay and Verlander respectively, the Yanks need to come out and pound Garcia.

    That was tough way to start but I’m glad to see Joba didn’t let it snowball out of control. Now, let’s score some runs!

  • Salty Buggah

    Alex Rodriguez is 12-for-32 lifetime off Garcia, with a double, a triple and five home runs.

  • Accent Shallow

    Derek isn’t even human anymore.

    Man is a machine.

  • Dela G

    Jeterian!!!!

    what an amazing man

  • Salty Buggah

    JETER!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    OMG Derek Jeter is soooooooo hot!!!

    • Riddering

      Minka?

  • Riddering

    Jeter is just ridiculous. So showy, not sportsmanlike at all.

  • Tampa Yankee

    Damn I thought that was gone! Nice start by the Captain!

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Jeter!

  • Zack

    wow, that #2 guy is a pretty good player

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Jim Palmer never gave up a grand slam.

  • Dela G

    wow, he’s never allowed a GS in 1700 innings?

    incredible

    • VO

      It’s too bad the streak had to end today.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Freddy’s bringing the slop. Gameday has everything as a changeup, topping out at 87. BP.

  • Dela G

    chances tex ever sees a fastball again?

    hasnt seen one in ages

  • Drew

    there u go teix

  • Tampa Yankee

    Where’s the bandbox on that?!?!

    • VO

      It was a pop-up behind the plate in fenway.

  • Dela G

    good job bringin em home

  • Salty Buggah

    That works Tex, kinda close to a HR though.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Nice sac Tex!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Please keep your sex life out of this thread.

  • Accent Shallow

    Where the hell were the infielders?

  • Dela G

    attaboy alex!

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Nice approach by Alex there.

    BOOOOO!!!!!

  • Salty Buggah

    A-rod is pretty hot lately too.

  • JGS

    The Red Sox are facing Halladay and we are facing Freddy Garcia. I like this

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      They do well against Halladay though

      • JGS

        13-13, 4.39

        hmm..that is pretty good. at least they have Paul Byrd going

  • John Duci

    wow fuck it

  • Accent Shallow

    What the shit, A-Rod?

  • JGS

    Oh that A-rod, clogging the bases

  • Dela G

    damn alex :(

  • Little Bill

    I don’t think Freddy Garcia is gonna last too long.

  • Drew

    Man he had a great jump I thought.

    • Salty Buggah

      Yea, he should have kept going

  • Tampa Yankee

    Where was he going on that?

    • Dela G

      2nd base?

  • Zack

    alex = fail

  • Salty Buggah

    cmon A-rod…oh well, at least its tied.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Damn, WTF A-Rod?

    BOOOOO!!!!!

  • Riddering

    A-Rod wanted Matsui to see more pitches. :p

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    AJ Pierzynski… FUCK YOU!

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Francesa has “earned the respect of the fans”?

    • Riddering

      Fans of what team?

      Heck, fans of what sport?

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Damn, Joba will go 6 on 50 pitches if he keeps this up.

  • Little Bill

    Joba’s gonna pitch 30 pitches in 3 innings. Are they really gonna take him out?

    • Steve H

      They shouldn’t. He should be on a pitch count, not innings. And if they have to break it down pitches from the windup/pitches from the stretch and weight accordingly, I’m good with that.

    • whozat

      I assume the team isn’t stupid, and that they ACTUALLY have a pitch-based metric, but so they didn’t have to explain all the nuances to the analysts, they just said “three innings”

      It’s probably between 35 and 45 pitches.

  • Dela G

    nice jump on that ball hinske

  • Salty Buggah

    Swisher catches that sleeping

  • Yankee1010

    Nice to see Joba sprinkle in a curveball right there.

  • Salty Buggah

    This is what happens when you are aggressive Joba.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    2 innings 15 pitches

    Keep it up JOBA!!!!!

  • Tampa Yankee

    Efficient Joba, I like!

  • Accent Shallow

    So Joba is only efficient with his pitches when he’s getting yanked early? The fuck?

  • Dela G

    holy cow!

    16 pitches through 2

    mitre-esqe

  • Zack

    Joba is pitching so good because he knows hes only going 3 innings, thus showing the Yankees he wants to be in the bullpen.

    /kruk’d

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    8 pitches per inning….

    50 pitches….

    Joba takes us to the 7th.

  • JGS

    Joba has thrown 15 pitches in two innings

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    If somebody gets me plush whistle, I will get them the autograph of any Tampa Yankee next year.

  • Drew

    I wonder if Joe’s allowed to let Joba go 4 if his next inning is equally as efficient as the previous 2.

  • Salty Buggah

    I say Jorge hits a Hip Hip HR today

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    No Mike, of course its not.

    I’m sure they’re going by pitches, not innings.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    It’s the bottom of the second inning and he’s still talking about Joba and his innings.

    Let. It. Go.

    It is what it is.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      +1

  • Steve H

    So if it took Joba a Bowden-esque 75 pitches to get thru 2, would they have him throw 3? I really hope they are not completely locked into an innings count if his pitch count continues to stay extremely low.

    • whozat

      THe only reason you think it is is because Kay keeps acting like it is.

      It’s not.

      • Steve H

        Actually not watching on YES, but I hope you are right, and I assume you are. The Yankees, including Cash and Girari aren’t morons.

      • Steve H

        Oh, and I wanted to take a shot at Bowden. I still can’t believe anybody thinks he’s anything but a #4 or #5 at best.

  • Salty Buggah

    Al doesn’t know about the Pythagorean theorem?

  • Dela G

    garcia is getting a nice strike zone

  • MikeD

    Is there no more announcer than Michael Kay when he starts obsessing over something that is pretty obvious.

    • MikeD

      no more “annoying” announcer.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        I wish there was “no more announcer” named Michael Kay.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Nothing like a “Pythagorean Theorem” joke by Mike. That’s comedy gold right there.

  • Yankee1010

    Yeesh, Cano. Not exactly busting it down the line there.

  • Salty Buggah

    Bad Cano

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Cano will redeem himself later in this game!

  • Salty Buggah

    Let’s hope Halladay doesn’t shit the bed in Bahston today. I hope he gets a win.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    OMG!!! IT’S TEH THIRD INNING!!!!

    TEH JOBBER IS GONNA DIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

  • Steve H

    Joba should be on a 1 inning count. The 8th.

    /MSM’d.

  • Riddering

    Ozzie told Alexei he wouldn’t get any more to eat until he scored a run.

  • http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_S0CViLms5ys/Sd54tE5sVMI/AAAAAAAAAho/0fxSZIso2OM/s400/Swisha+House.jpg Kevin G.

    Think we’ll see a RAB commercial today?

    • Drew

      I doubt they play it during the game. That’s prime ad realestate.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Hopefully they’ll play the one with Mike dressed up as a caveman.

  • Riddering

    Wow, accouncers really are predictable. As Kay reads Ozzie’s quote, I saw it pop up on TBS (which I have muted on the tv).

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      It’s all scripted. Ever notice how most of the radio talk shows seem to discuss the same topic? Wouldn’t you think each one would have a different take?

      • Zack

        Exactly. If Francesa didnt have Joba to talk about how could he fill the 6 hours every day? You can only make fun of the Mets for so long

        • Jack

          You can only make fun of the Mets for so long

          I disagree.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            IETC

  • Salty Buggah

    Don’t the mountains get higher every night (though by a VERY VERY VERY VERY small amount)even if you are winning?

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      It’s all about continental plates or something.

      • Salty Buggah

        Yea, something like that

  • Salty Buggah

    Cmon Joba, get a K and then a DP please

    • Steve H

      I know what a DP is, what’s a K?

      /pat’d

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Here’s the bad old Joba.

  • Riddering

    Joba is showing the outline of his calves, the hussy!

  • Drew

    Kay, no one wants to see you in a Dri-fit shirt.

  • baravelli

    Okay, silly question: I’m not sure exactly what it means when a cutoff man, or somebody who is for whatever reason directing another fielder about where to throw a ball, puts his hands up over his head. Does it mean “throw it here?” Does it mean “don’t throw it here?” What is it?

  • Salty Buggah

    I kinda hoped Joba would bring the heat but he’s at 91 so far.

  • Drew

    Well that worked out well.

  • Steve H

    Ron Darling=B-Jobber.

    He’s got that football mentality. The greatest RP ever is Mo. Would you consider Mo to have a football mentality? Idiots.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Darling said that? I’m surprised.

      I guess that means Roger Clemens, Josh Beckett, Ron Guidry, and Bob Gibson should have all been relief pitchers, too.

      • Steve H

        Yup. It sounded like he was about to acknowledge his transformation from a B-Jobber, but never got there. Joba didn’t just get guys out in the bullpen, he tackled them. Seriously.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          I really liked it when Joba used to kick field goals out of the bullpen. That was amazing.

          • Steve H

            Instead of hiring a crew to demolish the old YS, they are just going to have Joba treat it like a tackling dummy. It’ll be down in no time.

  • Salty Buggah

    Nice job Cano. He dropped it on purpose so he could get an out

    • JGS

      so lazy

  • MikeD

    Hopefully the White Sox will help us more today.

  • Dela G

    great play by cano

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Throwing 2 pitches with Joba? Just asking for a walk.

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      3 pitch-outs?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Stop worrying about the damn runner and get the guy at the plate.

  • MikeD

    Beckham should be a SS. Ramirez not good.

  • Salty Buggah

    No more runs please Joba.

  • Yankee1010

    Joba might have one of the worst pickoff moves I’ve ever seen.

    He’s also so incredibly slow to the plate that Podsednik stole on a pitchout and had it by far.

    I’d almost just rather have Joba not pay attention to the runner at all at this point because it completely distracts his focus from the hitter.

    • Riddering

      If Joba could get his K rate back up, I wouldn’t give a crap if the runners were going everywhere except from third.

      But seriously, it’d be nice to have Joba work on that for next season. I have no desire to see Jorge away from his position but the combo of those two is good for runners, bad for us.

      • Yankee1010

        I would put the runners going on Joba though. That’s not on Jorge. I don’t think it’s something that is necessarily going to be fixed this year, but Joba will definitely be working on it during spring training next year.

  • Brazilian Yankee

    3 pitchouts in the AB, they finally guess right but still couldn’t get the runner. Why not focus on the hitter instead?

    • Drew

      I dont think the third was a pitchout, just an outside and high FB.

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      I need a shot of cachaca after that :)

  • Drew

    That little girl almost got hit right in the head. Way to be on your toes, Dad.

  • ghyhyyhy

    not to mention a poor throw by Posada.

  • Salty Buggah

    Why would you need 16 receivers unless you have an absolutely huge house?

  • Adam

    The Yankees are ruining Joba’s carrer with all this innings limit bullshit. Joba hasnt been good since they started fucking with his innings. Let him pitch every 5 days with no limit on how many innings he throws

    • Steve H

      /Not Verducci’d

    • Drew

      oaktag

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Yeah the Yanks are ruining his career. That’s why they want him injured and fucked up for the remainder of his career. Theyw ant to ruin him.

    • Salty Buggah

      That’s funny. If they didnt do this “bullshit,” they would actually ruin his career. Right now, they are saving it.

    • Riddering

      Hey, have you followed pitching since the 1950s?

      • scooter

        For those who haven’t seen any of Verducci’s articles on this topic:
        http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

        Verducci himself said it’s not a science – it’s a simple way to identify at-risk pitchers.

        • whozat

          No one thinks that Verducci’s aggregation of other people’s work is an exact science. Which is why I’m sure the yanks and other organizations have taken what he did and talked to actual medical people about how to construct a plan to limit the risk to their young pitchers.

    • whozat

      Joba had plenty of shitty outings before the “innings limit bullshit”

      What was the issue then?

      Maybe he’s just a young pitcher and, as such, prone to bouts of inconsistency. Maybe he still has to learn that no, you can’t go to your slider in every 3-2 count in the bigs. Maybe the Yankees, unlike you, looked around at the Jays young pitchers, at Francisco Liriano and other promising young pitchers who got overworked and decided they’d rather have Joba be a rotation mainstay for the next ten years than be selling used cars in 2012 after multiple shoulder surgeries.

    • Steve H

      Yes, we should all root for Joba to be the next Mark Prior. And speaking of Prior, imagine if he had signed with the Yankees out of HS and never went to play for Dusty Baker? He’d probably still have….umm what’s that called….oh yeah, a job.

  • Salty Buggah

    That’s been a strike all day Piershitski! As a catcher, you should know.

  • Drew

    Note: You’re allowed to say “You’ve got be fucking kidding me, right?” to the umpires after a questionable strike call.

    • baravelli

      I’d like to think the umpire responded “yes, you’re right, I’m kidding you, for a funny joke. You’re still batting. Go ahead, get back up there.”

    • Riddering

      I don’t think AJ needs to be told he can use foul language.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Michael Kay

    35 pitches for Jobber.

    What to do? What on Earth will Girardi do? I will not rest until we get an answer!

  • Salty Buggah

    Hinske says Fuck so loud everytime. Where the HRs go?

  • Drew

    Shit ain’t right.

  • JGS

    Jeter is going to break that record on the road, isn’t he

    • MikeD

      Seven games on the road. They could sit him for a game or two. I have tickets to next Monday’s game at the Stadium, so I’m hoping it happens then.

  • Salty Buggah

    WTF Jeter? Dayum

  • Riddering

    Once we clone Mo, we need to immediately follow up with Jeter.

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Then Axisa, Kabak and Pawlikowski.

      /Unabashed ass-kissing’d

  • JGS

    “he batted .488. That’s almost .500! that’s almost every other time!”

    -Suzyn Waldman, two seconds ago

    • Riddering

      I find that adorable today.

  • Drew

    woootttt

  • Salty Buggah

    DAMON!!!!!!

  • Accent Shallow

    That’ll do, Johnny.

    • scooter

      I guess he wants to stay in NY

      Will be interesting to see how long Garcia lasts – his FB at 87, 88 means the curve and change aren’t as effective. The guy used to throw 94 before shoulder probs

  • Yankee1010

    It doesn’t look like it’s going to be “Good Roy Halladay” today.

    • Steve H

      Hasn’t been for a few weeks.

      • scooter

        Hasn’t since Doc came back from the groin pull a few weeks back

        I’ll take decent Doc today with Byrd going for the Sox

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Go Johnny go!!

  • JGS

    a Johnny Rocket!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    That was a shot.

  • Riddering

    BOOYAH.

    Plz come back Johnny.

  • whozat

    Fun fact, Kay. August 6, 11 and 16 are each 5 days apart. So…after destroying the league after the break, we are to believe that the reason for the bad pitching was the extra days between July 29 and August 6?

  • Salty Buggah

    BOS up 1-0 already?

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Humberto with a win today.

    • whozat

      He and Romulo will be celebrating at Country Kitchen Buffet this evening.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        They could do some damage.

    • Steve H

      Who?

      Oh you mean Hungry Hungry Humberto. I think, like Ochocinco, the legal name change has gone through.

  • Salty Buggah

    Be good today Ace.

  • E-ROC

    Wait, what’s going on with Joba?

    • whozat

      A funny joke? Yes?

      • E-ROC

        no doubt.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Damn, it was 3 innings no matter what.

    • whozat

      I don’t think so. I think it was 35-45 pitches no matter what.

      If he hadn’t thrown a 20 pitch inning last inning, I think he’d still be out there.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Gotcha.

  • 5th Starter

    What just happend/ I’m watching it on gameday and Jobs is coming out? Why?

    • Jersey

      Read the OP.

      • 5th Starter

        Ah. Thanks. Seems so quick. I thought that he was hurt or something.
        Is 3 innings really helpful? I mean I get that they will build him him up slowing, but wasn’t he already ready for 6-7 innings?

        • Steve H

          Yes he’s ready for that now, but they are trying to limit the 6-7 inning appearances to keep his season total down. It’s not that they are rebuilding his strength or pitch count to get him to 6-7, they don’t want him throwing 6-7.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      He broke Left fibula flexor miniscus running into the dugout. He’s out for the year.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        Doesn’t matter. He is almost at his innings limit anyway.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          See? 135 innings was his limit, just like Verducci said.

          After he pitched his 135th inning, he pretty much exploded on his way to the dugout.

          • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

            I’m relieved that this debate is finally over and we don’t have to speculate anymore.

  • Salty Buggah

    Kay, Ace will not only be a caddy for Joba. Rosters expand soon so it will be OK.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Kay moved seamlessly from Joba’s innings to not having Aceves available in other games. Wheeeeeeeee

    • Steve H

      And when do rosters expand?

      • scooter

        Al must be Kay’s friend – he corrects Kay without really bagging on him. It would be so easy. I’d expect Melancon and Albaladejo to get the call up on September 1. The way Josh Towers is pitching, he’s another possibility (except for 40-man roster probs)

      • whozat
        • JobaWockeeZ

          I think it was a rhetorical question.

    • E-ROC

      TBS has the game too.

      • Drew

        it’s blacked out here.

        • Zack

          and its not like TBS announcers arent going to bitch about Joba’s innings

          • Riddering

            It’s been a topic of course but they approve of doing what it takes to get the ball to Joba every five days.

            • Zack

              for real? if its was ESPN/Fox that would be the one and only topic

  • whozat

    Kay: “Aceves is so important”

    Reality: “He has pitched twice in the last ten days”

  • Salty Buggah

    Nice Ace

  • Riddering

    I have to say: I’m surprised he’s out already. This plan will probably kill his ERA but as long as he’s sorted out for the postseason and future, it won’t really matter.

    • Riddering

      Dude, in the time it took for me to kind of whine about Joba being gone, Ace recorded a 1-2-3 inning.

      GANGSTA.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        This 9-pich-inning was almost Joba-in-the-first-and-second-inning-esque.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    TampaYankee, Have you ever been to “The Tilted Kilt”?

    • Tampa Yankee

      Not yet, I’ve seen the commercials though. It’s a Scottish Hooters.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        Yeah it pretty nice. Do yourself a favor and make a trip.

        • Tampa Yankee

          Thanks, I’ll make sure I do.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      TampaYankee, Have you ever seen a grown man naked?

      • Tampa Yankee

        Are you wearing any pants?

  • Joba or Hughes to the pen

    Joba is gonna end up being a good pitcher.Not great good.THats alot from this team with a farm of high risk high reward pitchers.

    Joba=AJ Burnett.

    • Steve H

      Except he really has nothing in common with AJ, except being hard throwing rhp’s.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      “Joba=AJ Burnett”

      Where can I sign up for that?

      • Zack

        Name: _________________ Date: _________

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          Name: B. Cashmoney Date: August 30, 2009

    • whozat

      Wow, you can predict the career of a big league pitcher when he’s 23? Were you saying the same thing about Jon Lester when he was that age and throwing 5 IP of 4.50 ERA ball a game?

    • Jack

      Joba=AJ Burnett

      You say that like it’s a bad thing.

    • Jersey

      I am going to assume your username is meant ironically.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        Sadly, it’s not.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Nope it is not. I’m actually surprised it doesn’t say, “CC, AJ, Wang, Joba, Hughes and Pettitte to the pen.”

  • Salty Buggah

    I want HR in every 11 AB Alex back

  • Salty Buggah

    Pass that baton. It seems like Jeter is on all the time but A-rod is getting on at a higher rate.

    • JGS

      it’s because he is selfish

    • scooter

      Seems like Patient ARod is linked to the Clutch ARod we’ve seen this year. He’s not trying to do too much

      Yup – pass the baton sums it up

  • Zack

    Doc gives up a solo shot to Rocco Baldelli, wow

    • Drew

      My thoughts exactly.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    all 6 times.

  • Drew

    Some more bad defense from the Sox

  • Accent Shallow

    Alex is ordinarily a very heads-up baserunner. Guess he woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

    • cjc

      he was going back on the line drive understandable there that ball died right before nix

    • Salty Buggah

      nah, Nix shouldve caught that. He dropped the liner so A-rod was right

  • cjc

    post all star break Halladay wow Phi most be stoked that they got Lee

    • whozat

      Seriously. And alllll the talking heads who were lambasting the Yanks and others for not trading for him aren’t saying anything now…

    • Randy A.

      National league or AL East. Which one would you rather pitch against?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      The Phillies got him cheap and he’s basically Doc for them. Great trade for them. Too bad the rest of their rotation aside from JA Happ is sucking it up.

      • scooter

        And tying it together – Cole Hamels has had an up-and-down year after jumping about 80 IP in 2008. Maybe hat Verducci guy has something here

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Nah let the kids pitch. Nothing bad will happen.

          /Kruk’d

  • Salty Buggah

    Beckham cant catch Pop-ups, who is he A-rod?

    /A-rod haters

  • Riddering

    I am so sick of hearing about the wind in YSIII. I can’t remember who, but someone even blamed Castillo’s dropped pop-up on the jetstream.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Met fans. Every one of my friends who were Mets fans told that to me.

  • Drew

    Lol our ERA is better at home than on the road.
    /Opposite of badbox’d

    • JGS

      /Petco’d?

  • BigBlueAL

    If the Blue Jays lose today, they should forfeit the rest of their season.

    • cjc

      I thought they already had hmm my bad

  • MikeD

    The Yankees average of runs scored on the road it basically the same. Like YS1 and YS2, it’s favorable to left-handed pull hitters when it comes to HRs, but it’s bad for doubles and triples. overall, the new Stadium plays neutral when it comes to runs scored. Not that anyone in the media is capable of figuring that out.

    • whozat

      But I REMEMBER so many home runs!!!!!! I saw them with my EYES!!!! And I remember them with my MIND!

      Bullshit pop-fly homers like Baldelli just hit off Doc, those are part of Fenway’s Historic Awesome Character.

  • whozat

    strike zone is really generous away. Aceves has to take advantage of that shit.

  • Salty Buggah

    Kay admitted he’s ugly?

    • MikeD

      He said it, but he doesn’t believe it. He wants to be able to call other people ugly, so he has to call himself ugly. At least that’s my take.

  • Riddering

    HOSHIT.

    I never want this year to end for Jeter.

  • Salty Buggah

    Jeter>>>>>>average man

    • Bugsy

      jeter ist ubermench

  • Yankee1010

    Even though the Red Sox are winning and Byrd is somehow outpitching Halladay so far, at least there is Heidi Watney.

  • paulb

    Can anyone tell me why Joba thows a pedestrian 91-92 now when he used to throw 98?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      1. YES gun is hardly accurate.
      2. He’s not going to throw 98 as a starter.

  • cjc

    Paul Byrd is the greatest man alive dare I say DEPTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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