Game 130 Spillover Thread


Aceves is looking good, but of course the White Sox suck, so take it with a big grain of salt.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Tampa Yankee says:

    @ paulb re: Joba’s stuff…

    The same reason Hughes stuff plays better in the pen (91-93 as a SP and 95-97 as a RP).

    • whozat says:

      Also, you’re comparing his peak FB as a reliever to his average FB as a starter. Even out of the pen, it was not the case that EVERY fastball was 98. 95-96, ranging to 98.

      As a starter, he’s 92, ranging to 96

    • paulb says:

      There are a lot of starters in MLB with fastball 94-95. If he’s going to throw 91-92 he won’t be successful.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        And again you cannot rely on the YES gun if you are.

      • Chris says:

        There are 9 starters that average 94.0 or more on their fastballs this year: Jimenez (96.0), Verlander (95.5), Josh Johnson (95.1), Edwin Jackson (94.6), CC (94.2), AJ (94.2), Beckett (94.2), Felix Hernandez (94.0), and Penny (94.0).

        There are 21 starters in baseball with higher average velocities than Joba’s 92.5.

    • MikeD says:

      Not sure I buy that. When he was in AA, I remember Keith Law scouted him and reported that “he held his velocity” into the sixth and seventh innings, still clocking him, on average, at 95 mph. And that’s on the conservative radar guns the scouts use, not the steroid-juiced ballpark ones. Last year, after he went to the rotation, his fastball was also reguarly in the 95 range throughout the game Since he went on the DL last August, we have not seen that Joba. He occasionally will hit 95/96, but he now throws 91-93. That’s nice, but on the 20-80 scouts scale, his fastball used to rate near 80, which means his fastball was considered as good as any in the game. No chance he’d rate as an 80 today.

      I don’t know what happened to that guy, but I hope he one day returns. He’s young, so it could be mechanical. Maybe he needs rest.

      We as Yankee fans may not want to admit it and look for reasons, but Joba has lost about three miles off his fastball as a starter.

      • whozat says:

        Sure. I’ve seen starts where he does that, throwing 95 in the late innings, and that was on the gameday gun.

        It could be that he’s inconsistent with his mechanics. It could be that he’s trying to command it better and so he’s throwing less hard most of the time. It could be lingering effects of his shoulder injury from last year.

        I don’t know. I do know that returning to the pen won’t help. I also know that throwing 200 innings this season wouldn’t help. So…whatever.

        • MikeD says:

          whozat, I agree. I don’t want him to go back to the pen since I’ve always thought his future was as a starter. Do did the Yankees as they wanted him to be our Josh Beckett. The starter who throws 96 mph. He just hasn’t shown that velocity for most of the year, which I’m sure has also surprised the Yankees.

          I’m just saying for some reason, unknown, he has lost velocity compared to being a starter in the minors and up until August of last year, compared to Joba today. There was a part of me that was hoping the Yankees did put him in the pen in September, not as a permanent move, but to control his innings, because I think then all the people who have been pushing for Joba to go back to the pen would discover that he’s not who he was in late ’97. They would see that he could no longer thow 99 mph fastballs that painted the outside corner.

          I bet we hear more about this in the offseason as the Yankees either work on his mechanics, his conditioning, or something else. They won’t mention it while the season is ongoing.

      • paulb says:

        Agree completely!

        • Tampa Yankee says:

          see below…

          There are 9 SP that avg over 94 mph and with the exception of Penny, those are some of the best in the game (CC, King Felix, Verlander). Those that avg 92.5 to 94.0 (Joba, Lincecum, Lester, Halladay) are pretty good too.

          He’s fine. He’s 23 yrs old and this is his first full season of starting. Lets’s just be happy he’s made it the whole season healthy and kept the Yankees in games.

      • Tampa Yankee says:

        “Despite all that talk about decreased velocity, Joba is still averaging 92.5 mph with the pitch, which is above average velocity. It’s just 0.1 mph slower than Tim Lincecum’s average fastball, and ahead of noted flamethrowers like Rich Harden and Javy Vazquez. Joba’s fastball is good enough that he can throw it 65-70% of the time and still succeed, particularly when he needs to make a pitch.”;month=0

        • MikeD says:

          Tampa, I think two different thoughts are being mixed here. One is has Joba “lost decreased velocity” with “does he still have a good fastball.” The answer to both is yes.



          2007 is only the bullpen, so it’s not a proper comparison, but the one thing I’ll add is if Joba still had the ability to throw 97, you would see it during critical situations when he needed to get a strike out. We don’t see it because he just can’t do it right now.

          If the above trend continues, we’re going to have a right-handed Jamie Moyer on our hands in two or three years. Okay, that was a joke. (I hope.)

      • Chris says:

        He clearly has lost about 2-3MPH off his fast ball. I understand wanting his velocity to come back, but people seem to forget that when he was throwing max effort he got injured.

        If you look at his off-speed pitches, he hasn’t lost velocity there, so it’s possible that he just changed his mechanics or started throwing a 2-seam fastball (which I believe I heard he did) or is just not going 100% on every pitch. If any of those are the reason, then there isn’t anything to be concerned about with a drop in velocity.

  2. Doug says:

    That was an adventurous route for Q.

  3. cjc says:

    Paul Byrd >>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Halladay depth bitches depth

  4. The Artist says:

    Hunts point? Yikes. That’s a rough area.

  5. Salty Buggah says:

    What’s up with Halladay?

    • Johan Iz My Brohan says:

      1) Ricciardi ruined him by having him involved in so many trade rumors.
      2) The Sox are playing at Fenway, and Halladay never does well against Boston.
      3) He wants to get the hell out of the game and fuck bitches.

  6. JGS says:

    response to Byrd and the DEPTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    gotta have some, I wouldn’t count on teh Buchholz in a big spot:

    Buchholz against Toronto–3-0, 1.35, 0.950 WHIP
    Buchholz against not Toronto–0-3, 6.12, 1.856 WHIP

  7. Riddering says:

    Success is success is success. I’ll take domination from the bullpen no matter which team they’re playing and I’ll like it and honor it.

    /true American’d

  8. Drew says:

    Does anyone know how many innings/pitches Byrd is good for today?

  9. Andy In Sunny Daytona says:

    Carlos Quentin is such a graceful fielder.

  10. Bugsy says:

    Does he get another hit here? I’m taking bets

  11. Salty Buggah says:

    Melky is still falling down that cliff

  12. The Artist says:

    Is Leiter just going out of his way to say as little as possible?

  13. Bugsy says:

    except thome, dye and quentin hit the shit out of the ball and are not singles hitters. but whatever.

  14. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Do the White Sox like to fuck up the Yankee pitchers?

  15. Riddering says:

    Damn White Sox. They’re not making it to the postseason so they’re trying to take down some pitchers with them.

  16. Salty Buggah says:

    stop hitting our damn pitchers

  17. Yankee1010 says:

    Hell of a DP there. Great pick by A-Rod and a great turn by Cano.

  18. Salty Buggah says:

    Woohoo 5-4-3

  19. ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

    Question for you all: Who is your player of the month for the Yankees? You could make a pretty good case for each of Jeter, Cano, Matsui and A-Rod IMO.

  20. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Bases loaded for Jays, if they don’t score here….

  21. The Artist says:

    Beautiful DP by A-Rod!


  22. Bugsy says:

    al leiter, how dare you even try to thinly veil a criticism of jeter!!!

  23. Johan Iz My Brohan says:


  24. Brian Cashman is watching says:

    Can someone explain gamecast to me? Why are pitches in the middle balls and far outside strikes? Is it gamecast or the umpire?

  25. Salty Buggah says:

    I can has some more runs now?

  26. BigBlueAL says:

    Here is a crazy idea. How about using Hughes to pitch BOTH the 7th and 8th innings!?!?!?

  27. whozat says:

    Tex looking terrrrrrrible lately

  28. Salty Buggah says:

    Tex in a major slump since Letterman

  29. dygg says:

    Remember in May, when Toronto was “for real”?

  30. Yankee1010 says:

    Are the Red Sox really going to blow out the Jays when it’s a Byrd-Halladay matchup? It’s not looking good.

    • cjc says:

      yep Riccardi talking hourly about the trade situation seems to have fucked Halladay up but good

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Meh Halladay hasn’t been as great since that groin thing.

        • whozat says:

          But the Yanks should have traded Montero, Hughes and Jackson for him. HE’S ROY HALLADAY!!!!!!!

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            It’s an instant WS!! Eff the future! We’ll buy more free agents because we all know the Yanks have a forest of money trees!

      • Yankee1010 says:

        I think it’s a combination of that and him not being fully right. He hasn’t come back well from the groin injury and his stuff doesn’t seem to have the same bite.

        • whozat says:

          Sounds to me like it’s the groin thing, but people need a more dramatic narrative so they keep bringing up the trade rumors.

          • Yankee1010 says:

            I agree that it’s mostly the groin thing. But supposedly he was completely ready to be traded. I can see how that would mess with him, but the groin is probably the bigger issue.

  31. gxpanos says:

    Dont mean to mess with the GT, but I’m interested in what people think about this; I wrote it in response to Accent Shallow in the Betances thread. He was disputing that TJ adds velo (Accent’s words in quotes):

    “It’s easier to generate velocity with a repaired ligament, as opposed to the frayed or damaged ligament”

    How does this statement contradict the statement, “TJS can make guys throw harder.” TJS means repairing (actually replacing) a damaged ligament.


    A damaged ligament can lead to diminished velocity, and a repaired ligament can increase that velocity. TJS repairs the ligament, therefore TJS can be the reason for increased velocity.

    If I’m not missing something, it seems to me that when someone says TJS can increase velocity, it’s perfectly sound. Now, regarding morons who say that anyone can have TJS and thus can gain velo are dumb. The surgery only increases velo if the ligament is in fact damaged in the first place. I dont think the “increased velo” thing is a meme. And obviously it’s not exact/a sure thing, every guy/arm is different, and rehab exercises can also be part of the reason for increased velocity. But in general, it’s sound.

    • JGS says:

      a lot of times, when younger kids are having TJ surgery, their ligaments were damaged before they could ever reach their full potential so that after the surgery they can hit higher digits than they ever could before simply because they hadn’t built up the necessary strength when they had a healthy ligament hence the misconception that it improves your velocity

    • Accent Shallow says:

      That’s right. The myth is that TJS on a healthy arm will allow you to throw harder. That’s simply not correct.

      And TJS isn’t guaranteed to restore your arm to “as good as new”. For some guys, the stuff/velocity simply doesn’t return.

    • Drew says:

      I think part of the reason it adds velocity is that the ligament they put in is actually more elastic, it can stretch better. I forget where I heard that.

  32. Lanny says:

    No team has quit quite like the Blue Jays.

    • cjc says:

      if riccardi keeps is job there should be an investigation

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

        He should be fired for the batshit insane contract he gave Wells and the slightly less batshit insane one Rios got, which caused the whole Halladay episode in the first place.

        • Accent Shallow says:

          I’m under the impression that the Wells contract was the brainchild of ex-Jays president Paul Godfrey, in an attempt to placate the Toronto fans for letting Carlos Delgado walk.

          • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

            Really? Haven’t heard that before.

            Anyway, as I’m not the most reasonable person here, he should also be fired for not getting Lincecum for Rios when he had the chance to do it. I mean, Lincecum is better then nothing, which is what he got from the White Sox for Rios.

    • The Artist says:

      They haven’t quit, Byrd just got his HGH shipment. He’s unbeatable.

  33. BigBlueAL says:

    Hallady better not pitch a shutout against the Yankees next weekend.

  34. Bugsy says:

    Off Topic: Why does Ron Washington keep batting Marlon byrd in the clean up. So fucking annoying. It’s almost as bad as when Angels batted Izturis in the 3 hole–and that was a joke.

  35. Drew says:

    D-Mart time.

  36. Mike Axisa says:

    No Coke, Pepsi!

    Looks like Damaso got his late inning LOOGY job back.

  37. BigBlueAL says:

    Robertson warming up, now way can Hughes get an out or 2 in the 7th and pitch the 8th.

  38. E-ROC says:

    Damn matchups.

  39. Bugsy says:

    DRoB prediction: 2 BB, 2 K

  40. Adam says:

    DROB is gauranteed to blow this one…watch

  41. Drew says:

    D-Rob go get that shit.

  42. The Artist says:

    I bet that George Steinbrenner Yankeeography is gonna rip him big time.

  43. Salty Buggah says:


  44. Accent Shallow says:

    Dave Robertson: short Phil Hughes.

  45. BigBlueAL says:

    Surprised Girardi didnt bring in Coke to face Kotsay…

  46. John Duci says:

    Hughes better come out for the 8th. This game is sooooo boring and I just wanna see that stud pitch

    • Little Bill says:

      He’ll pitch the 8th. I really think there’s rules against Hughes pitching 2 innings until the stakes get higher.

  47. Salty Buggah says:

    cmon Robo

  48. Bugsy says:

    ah shit!

  49. baravelli says:

    I had a crazy dream last night in which Dave Roberston was a pinch-runner, and he was involved in a wacky play where he passed the runner ahead of him on the basepaths, but there were like three throwing errors on the play, and the runners managed to get themselves back in order somehow.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

      Sounds like a whacky dream.

      Mine from last night: I got a co-worker, who is neither good-loking nor nice, pregnant. And everybody was mad at me because I didn’t spend any time with her. Man, was I lucky when I realized it was only a dream.

  50. Jake H says:

    Robertson has a very good curve and he’s thrown it twice in this outing.

  51. Bugsy says:

    yay yay yay, we get to see hughes pitch 4 outs

  52. BigBlueAL says:

    Hughes must be in shock right about now.

  53. Salty Buggah says:

    no runs Philly

  54. Drew says:

    I’d rather him give up hits than walks. Hopefully Philly can hammer down the 3rd out.

  55. Salty Buggah says:

    A-rod and Joba Guitar Hero?

  56. JMK says:

    Did Girardi forget how to count to eight?

  57. Accent Shallow says:

    Nix has been killing the Yankees this series.

    Well, as much killing as you can do with still losing the first two games.

  58. E-ROC says:

    Hey, there is a Phil Hughes sighting.

  59. Riddering says:

    No, Hughes is the Most Intersting Man in the World.

  60. Zack says:

    drop the deuce on him!

  61. Drew says:

    Dang went with the cut 2-2

  62. BigBlueAL says:

    So Hughes is able to pitch the 7th but only in an emergency?? Would it really have been that hard to have brought in Hughes after Marte??

    I know Im beating a dead horse but honestly the way Girardi has used Hughes lately is beyond mind-boggling.

  63. Salty Buggah says:


  64. Tampa Yankee says:

    Good to see Hughes live up to his ROOGY status

  65. Riddering says:

    Awesome “Hughes ‘Da Man’” sign there. Lucky for those people Girardi actually used him this game.

  66. Mike bk says:

    so does girardi pull hughes to start the 8th or automatically go to mo with 2 outs in the inning cause we know hughes cant get 4 whole outs?

    • Salty Buggah says:

      relax the Girardi hate

      • Drew says:

        it will never stop. We could win the WS this year and next year in April people will complain about his managerial decisions.

      • Mike bk says:

        that’s not girardi hate. he panic’s to mo plenty of times even when he was using hughes a lot more than he has lately.

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          So? He’s using his best reliever out there and since they each only pitch an innings, they can be used again the subsequent day. Frankly it’s annoying how people will complain when Mo comes out.

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            only pitched an inning [...]

          • Mike bk says:

            if he makes mo pitch 4 outs it’s not just an inning is it? frankly it’s annoying when people complain without reading the initial statement.

            so you enjoyed those games in tampa watching mo get loose in 5 run games, got it.

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              Read your own statement.
              he panic’s to mo plenty of times even when he was using hughes a lot more than he has lately.

              He let Mo get 4 outs only 9 times this year. That’s not “plenty” of times. And most of those times came before Hughes was a reliever and before he was the bullpen wasn’t as good as it was.

              There’s been like only a couple times where he really “panicked” and the only one I know is the Tampa game. That’s only ONE game. Using ONE game like that makes no sense whatsoever when he’s NEVER done it again. Seriously if you’re complaining about that game then there’s really nothing to complain about. Seriously people are complaining when arguably the greatest reliever of all time is pitching. Unbelievable.

              • JobaWockeeZ says:

                so you enjoyed those games in tampa watching mo get loose in 5 run games, got it.

                Oh I’m sorry I reply to this. Yes I did enjoy watching one of the best relievers warm up just in case the 5 run lead gets shortened which was possible.

                But Girardi sucks for getting ready just in case.

      • The Artist says:

        Maybe he just needs to do better to make some folks happy. You know, if the team was 33 games over .500, had the best record in the AL and was 6 games . . . .oh that’s right. Never mind.

  67. Zack says:;type=lgns

    Peavy left his rehab start due to elbow tightness.

    -Although I’m not sure if that’s from getting hit there last time out.

  68. Salty Buggah says:

    no DP again Robbie

  69. GG says:

    Halladay is kinda gettin knocked around today by the GritSox

  70. Salty Buggah says:

    Ummm Williams…JoPo isnt going to steal

  71. Accent Shallow says:

    Yeah, Posada the baserunner is worthy of your concern. This isn’t 1995.

  72. GG says:

    Flashes the laziness

  73. Drew says:

    Ha Jorgie talkin a little shit to Alexei

  74. Salty Buggah says:

    Robbie got lucky there

  75. Salty Buggah says:

    Oh yay Melky up with RISP…cmon Melky, make us happy

  76. Mike Axisa says:

    Why not bunt with Melky? Girardi makes no sense.

  77. Drew says:

    There it is Melk!!! :) LECHEEEE

  78. Salty Buggah says:


  79. BigBlueAL says:

    I love it when Melky plays umpire!!

  80. Accent Shallow says:

    Melky Cabrera: not as bad as RAB thinks.

  81. baravelli says:

    Yeah Yankees, way to show some four-to-two’d.

  82. E-ROC says:

    Its not often you see Jeter intentionally walked.

    • Riddering says:

      Eh, it happens when he has a 2-4 hit game. I know the last time was in Tampa and Johnny made then pay.

      Would be nice to have another double from Hairston here.

  83. Dan says:

    he’s lucky he wasnt out there cause he wasn’t busting out of the box

  84. John Duci says:

    whats wrong with JD?

  85. Bugsy says:

    wtf, no damon? c’mon.

  86. Dan says:

    classic overmanaging

  87. Salty Buggah says:

    Jeter = Feared

  88. MikeD says:

    Melky knows Brett Gardner is close to returning, so he’s amping his game up.

  89. Bugsy says:

    if they score, it means no hughes in the 8th.


  90. Riddering says:

    Nice job to get another run in.

  91. Salty Buggah says:

    ah man, I thought Jerry got a hit

  92. JGS says:

    a tex message!

  93. JSquared says:


  94. Salty Buggah says:

    stat padder

  95. Tampa Yankee says:


  96. BigBlueAL says:

    Great, there goes a save for Mo and my fantasy team.

  97. Riddering says:

    Leno called Tex since his last AB.

  98. MikeD says:

    First to 100 on the Yanks in ’09.

  99. Salty Buggah says:

    I hope thats gets him going again

  100. MikeD says:

    Here goes Michael Kay talking pitching to an actual MLB pitcher. Here’s an idea Mike: If a left-handed hitter always knew you were going to throw a fastball, he’d hit even more HRs.

    • scooter says:

      Let’s not confuse Michael with facts here.

      Linebrink isn’t trying to throw a breaking pitch down the middle. I’d assume that pitch is supposed to be in the dirt on 1-2

      Linebrink probably watched Garcia fool Tex several times on breaking stuff

  101. Chris says:

    So now Melky’s being criticized even when he contributes.

    What a fanbase.

    Nice, Tex.

  102. GG says:

    That was the first even remotely “cheap” HR I remember Tex hitting to right at the stadium, usually they are way gone

  103. Accent Shallow says:

    Phil Hughes: low leverage mopup man

  104. King of Fruitless Hypotheticals says:

    …Sterling is pssing me off–he keeps saying Hughes will pitch the 8th…he also kept saying Hughes pitched the 7th.

    WTF? Didn’t he already pitch this series?

  105. Salty Buggah says:

    Hope Johnny’s OK

  106. Riddering says:

    Pete Rose won a Clemente award? Never knew that.

  107. Salty Buggah says:

    4 outs 12 pitches

  108. Ivan says:

    I don’t wanna sound cocky, but, rite now no team can fuck wit the yankees.

  109. scooter says:

    Damon out with cramping of the calves – so nothing too serious.

    Hot day – could be dehydration

  110. JGS says:

    who pitches the ninth now?

  111. JSquared says:

    I’m amazed at how bad the Blue Jays can embarrass themselves… against PAUL FUCKING BYRD.

    • scooter says:

      Get-away day for the Jays – I guess they packed up Friday night

      They’ll be a lot more difficult at home – but I dunno how Gaston keeps his job

      I agree with Kay and Al here – WS looked like they’ve quit a bit – so you wonder if Guillen’s job is safe. Mariotti must be having a field day with this

      • JSquared says:

        Gaston has been fine, management has had bad moves, but 0 Runs against Paul Byrd is not Gaston’s fault.

        • DreDog says:

          I agree, I think Cito is a decent+ manager. When they were on a tear in the beginning of the year, there were a couple of articles on how good he was. He’s not the second coming, but he isn’t dirt.

          • scooter says:

            I like Cito, too – and I know JP left him with garbage.

            If the Jays mail it in from here on, will JP can him, claiming that he lost the team?

  112. Andy In Sunny Daytona says:

    It looks like Mike Stanton isn’t finding Double A as appealing as Jesus did.

  113. Little Bill says:

    Sox announcers are such a joke. “Mark Weigner cost us another game with his miscall at 1st base. Everytime he calls our games, calls go against us.” Yeah, he’s why you idiots got swept.

  114. Accent Shallow says:

    I’m fairly certain Bobby Jenks has a tooth count in the single digits.

    I also love seeing opposing teams closers brought in because “they need work” due to the Yankees not giving them a late inning lead.

    • mtt says:

      “I’m fairly certain Bobby Jenks has a tooth count in the single digits.”
      It would be interesting if someone kept track of this statistic. I suspect low tooth count has a strong correlation with GRIT.

  115. Drew says:

    Wagner pitching in Boston.

  116. Bugsy says:

    yankees are awesome. so awesome that i’m beginning to forget that last year even happened.

  117. Drew says:

    fuckin shift

  118. gio says:

    Phil Choke. WHOOO HOOOOO!!!

  119. Salty Buggah says:

    Sorry Hinske sometimes shift happens

  120. E-ROC says:

    Hughes threw too many pitches, so lets bring in Coke.

  121. pat says:


  122. Riddering says:

    Hey, that was actually a pop-up!

  123. Salty Buggah says:

    get a K Cokie

  124. gio says:

    “Girardi likes to use Coke in these situations.”

    Everytime I hear Kay/Sterling say this, I chuckle.

  125. MikeD says:

    HR Coke is at it again.

  126. Drew says:

    Coke, this is not ideal.

  127. pat says:

    hahah yay phil coke.

  128. Salty Buggah says:

    damn HR

  129. Tom Zig says:

    again with the long ball.

    Phil Coke what’s wrong?

  130. whozat says:

    Man, Coke really can’t not give up dingers.

  131. Jake H says:

    That was a good pitch by phil. Got to give the batter credit.

  132. Riddering says:

    Now TBS claims that the jet stream also carries balls directly to the bullpen. So there are two streams: one to the short right porch and one to the Yankee pen?

  133. Drew says:

    If he walks him Joe will be fuming.

  134. ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops says:

    LOL, wouldn’t really be a Phil Coke outing without a homerun allowed.

  135. Tom Zig says:

    Phil its Mark Kotsay, there is a reason he has been on 1000 different teams

  136. Tampa Yankee says:


  137. MikeD says:

    You know your team is playing really well at home when they go 4-2 on the recent homestand for a .667%, which actually lowers their winning percentage at home for the year.

  138. Accent Shallow says:

    Yay Coke! Yay win!

    (Seriously Phil, stop pointing at home runs! Alternatively, just stop giving them up. Thanks.)

  139. Brazilian Yankee says:

    Phil Coke is amazing.

  140. Tom Zig says:

    Blue Jays, thanks for nothing

  141. John Duci says:

    Another day. Another game. Another win.

  142. Joba or Hughes to the pen says:

    Man where are the people who say Robertson and Coke can be set-up men at?Can’t wait to see Mo retire and see no one can replace him.Maybe MO will get the respect that Jeter gets for hitting small singles every game.

  143. Salty Buggah says:


  144. gio says:

    “We play today, we win today. Das it.”

    I think Mariano Duncan is the team’s motivational speaker this year.

  145. Drew says:

    Tiger just has to gain a couple strokes and the day will be a success.

  146. Joba or Hughes to the pen says:

    Funny how Aceves has more wins then Joba:)

    • Tampa Yankee says:

      Fun Fact for you… Alan Embree once won a game without having to throw a pitch! That’s how overrated W’s and L’s are.

    • Tom Zig says:

      Do you know who also has more wins than Joba?

      CC Sabathia.

      Do you know how old Joba is?


      What do these things have to deal with each other?

      Nothing. Kind of like your statements.

  147. pat says:

    U know you have a good team when your swingman is 9-1.

  148. King of Fruitless Hypotheticals says:

    Listening to jopo, I’m thinking Molina isn’t all bad, I wish we could rest jorgie and arod more–2 days at a time, no dh, no ph, and start pulling them both in 7th or 8th after an at bat when possible.

  149. Zack says:

    I love Gammons, spin the horrible signings of Penny/Smoltz and say by cutting them they saved money to acquire Wagner.

    • scooter says:

      Part of the Master Plan, no doubt – paying Smoltz to pitch for the Cardinals, and Penny to pitch for whoever

      (Also paying Lugo to play SS with the Cards)

      V-Mart makes that lineup deeper for sure – but I wonder if they’ll regret losing Masterson in the long term – especially if Wakefield’s back problems continue.

    • Tampa Yankee says:

      and get Joey Gathright!

    • Dela G says:

      gammons is a moron in my opinion, so i’m ok with that

  150. Dela G says:

    what a great win

  151. DreDog says:

    Peavey left his rehab start with tightness in his elbow. I guess he won’t pitch against the Sox. Ozzie is going to have fun with Peavey.

  152. Drew says:

    Tiger charging.

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