Aug
30

Game 130 Spillover Thread

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Aceves is looking good, but of course the White Sox suck, so take it with a big grain of salt.

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  • Jack
  • Tampa Yankee

    @ paulb re: Joba’s stuff…

    The same reason Hughes stuff plays better in the pen (91-93 as a SP and 95-97 as a RP).

    • whozat

      Also, you’re comparing his peak FB as a reliever to his average FB as a starter. Even out of the pen, it was not the case that EVERY fastball was 98. 95-96, ranging to 98.

      As a starter, he’s 92, ranging to 96

      • Accent Shallow

        I’m holding out hope that 2008 Joba makes a reappearance in 2010.

    • paulb

      There are a lot of starters in MLB with fastball 94-95. If he’s going to throw 91-92 he won’t be successful.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        And again you cannot rely on the YES gun if you are.

        • paulb

          In my opinion he’s never been the same since he hurt shoulder in Tex last year.

      • Chris

        There are 9 starters that average 94.0 or more on their fastballs this year: Jimenez (96.0), Verlander (95.5), Josh Johnson (95.1), Edwin Jackson (94.6), CC (94.2), AJ (94.2), Beckett (94.2), Felix Hernandez (94.0), and Penny (94.0).

        There are 21 starters in baseball with higher average velocities than Joba’s 92.5.

    • MikeD

      Not sure I buy that. When he was in AA, I remember Keith Law scouted him and reported that “he held his velocity” into the sixth and seventh innings, still clocking him, on average, at 95 mph. And that’s on the conservative radar guns the scouts use, not the steroid-juiced ballpark ones. Last year, after he went to the rotation, his fastball was also reguarly in the 95 range throughout the game Since he went on the DL last August, we have not seen that Joba. He occasionally will hit 95/96, but he now throws 91-93. That’s nice, but on the 20-80 scouts scale, his fastball used to rate near 80, which means his fastball was considered as good as any in the game. No chance he’d rate as an 80 today.

      I don’t know what happened to that guy, but I hope he one day returns. He’s young, so it could be mechanical. Maybe he needs rest.

      We as Yankee fans may not want to admit it and look for reasons, but Joba has lost about three miles off his fastball as a starter.

      • whozat

        Sure. I’ve seen starts where he does that, throwing 95 in the late innings, and that was on the gameday gun.

        It could be that he’s inconsistent with his mechanics. It could be that he’s trying to command it better and so he’s throwing less hard most of the time. It could be lingering effects of his shoulder injury from last year.

        I don’t know. I do know that returning to the pen won’t help. I also know that throwing 200 innings this season wouldn’t help. So…whatever.

        • MikeD

          whozat, I agree. I don’t want him to go back to the pen since I’ve always thought his future was as a starter. Do did the Yankees as they wanted him to be our Josh Beckett. The starter who throws 96 mph. He just hasn’t shown that velocity for most of the year, which I’m sure has also surprised the Yankees.

          I’m just saying for some reason, unknown, he has lost velocity compared to being a starter in the minors and up until August of last year, compared to Joba today. There was a part of me that was hoping the Yankees did put him in the pen in September, not as a permanent move, but to control his innings, because I think then all the people who have been pushing for Joba to go back to the pen would discover that he’s not who he was in late ’97. They would see that he could no longer thow 99 mph fastballs that painted the outside corner.

          I bet we hear more about this in the offseason as the Yankees either work on his mechanics, his conditioning, or something else. They won’t mention it while the season is ongoing.

          • MikeD

            …meant late ’07. Late ’97 he probably was only throwing 70!

      • paulb

        Agree completely!

        • Tampa Yankee

          see below…

          There are 9 SP that avg over 94 mph and with the exception of Penny, those are some of the best in the game (CC, King Felix, Verlander). Those that avg 92.5 to 94.0 (Joba, Lincecum, Lester, Halladay) are pretty good too.

          He’s fine. He’s 23 yrs old and this is his first full season of starting. Lets’s just be happy he’s made it the whole season healthy and kept the Yankees in games.

      • Tampa Yankee

        “Despite all that talk about decreased velocity, Joba is still averaging 92.5 mph with the pitch, which is above average velocity. It’s just 0.1 mph slower than Tim Lincecum’s average fastball, and ahead of noted flamethrowers like Rich Harden and Javy Vazquez. Joba’s fastball is good enough that he can throw it 65-70% of the time and still succeed, particularly when he needs to make a pitch.”

        http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ers-16373/
        http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....38;month=0

        • MikeD

          Tampa, I think two different thoughts are being mixed here. One is has Joba “lost decreased velocity” with “does he still have a good fastball.” The answer to both is yes.

          2008:
          http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....38;month=0

          2007:
          http://www.fangraphs.com/leade.....38;month=0

          2007 is only the bullpen, so it’s not a proper comparison, but the one thing I’ll add is if Joba still had the ability to throw 97, you would see it during critical situations when he needed to get a strike out. We don’t see it because he just can’t do it right now.

          If the above trend continues, we’re going to have a right-handed Jamie Moyer on our hands in two or three years. Okay, that was a joke. (I hope.)

      • Chris

        He clearly has lost about 2-3MPH off his fast ball. I understand wanting his velocity to come back, but people seem to forget that when he was throwing max effort he got injured.

        If you look at his off-speed pitches, he hasn’t lost velocity there, so it’s possible that he just changed his mechanics or started throwing a 2-seam fastball (which I believe I heard he did) or is just not going 100% on every pitch. If any of those are the reason, then there isn’t anything to be concerned about with a drop in velocity.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

    That was an adventurous route for Q.

  • cjc

    Paul Byrd >>>>>>>>>>>>> Roy Halladay depth bitches depth

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Hunts point? Yikes. That’s a rough area.

  • Salty Buggah

    What’s up with Halladay?

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      1) Ricciardi ruined him by having him involved in so many trade rumors.
      2) The Sox are playing at Fenway, and Halladay never does well against Boston.
      3) He wants to get the hell out of the game and fuck bitches.

  • JGS

    response to Byrd and the DEPTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    gotta have some, I wouldn’t count on teh Buchholz in a big spot:

    Buchholz against Toronto–3-0, 1.35, 0.950 WHIP
    Buchholz against not Toronto–0-3, 6.12, 1.856 WHIP

    • Zack

      give me his last 5 starts, ill teach you a listen JGS

      /francesa’d

  • Riddering

    Success is success is success. I’ll take domination from the bullpen no matter which team they’re playing and I’ll like it and honor it.

    /true American’d

  • Drew

    Does anyone know how many innings/pitches Byrd is good for today?

    • cjc

      PC and innings limits are for Pussies ;)

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Carlos Quentin is such a graceful fielder.

  • Bugsy

    Does he get another hit here? I’m taking bets

  • Salty Buggah

    Melky is still falling down that cliff

    • JGS

      come back soon Gritty McGritgrit

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Is Leiter just going out of his way to say as little as possible?

    • Bugsy

      maybe he has an intense dislike for Kay

      • scooter

        How do you follow up “the view from the blimp is like a view from heaven”?

        I’d be quiet too

    • Salty Buggah

      yea, he was just quiet after that heaven thing

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        The whole series, really.

        • Lanny

          Kay and Leiter are really good friends.

  • Bugsy

    except thome, dye and quentin hit the shit out of the ball and are not singles hitters. but whatever.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Do the White Sox like to fuck up the Yankee pitchers?

  • Riddering

    Damn White Sox. They’re not making it to the postseason so they’re trying to take down some pitchers with them.

  • Salty Buggah

    stop hitting our damn pitchers

  • Yankee1010

    Hell of a DP there. Great pick by A-Rod and a great turn by Cano.

  • Salty Buggah

    Woohoo 5-4-3

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Question for you all: Who is your player of the month for the Yankees? You could make a pretty good case for each of Jeter, Cano, Matsui and A-Rod IMO.

    • Steve H

      Jeter. The others have certainly had “moments” but Jeter’s consistency does it for me this month.

    • JGS

      jeter–the guy is batting .800

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Bases loaded for Jays, if they don’t score here….

    • Zack

      of course they dont

    • Jersey

      What a pathetic team.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Beautiful DP by A-Rod!

    BOOOO!!!!!

  • Bugsy

    al leiter, how dare you even try to thinly veil a criticism of jeter!!!

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    BLEW JAYS!

    • Bugsy

      BOO Jays!

    • Drew

      What do you expect, they have a NL lineup…

    • cjc

      what a disgrace they really aren’t even a real baseball team at this point total joke of a francise

      • scooter

        Veterans out of the pennant race on the road – if you can jump in front, they might mail it in.

  • Brian Cashman is watching

    Can someone explain gamecast to me? Why are pitches in the middle balls and far outside strikes? Is it gamecast or the umpire?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      It’s what the umpire calls.

    • Drew

      Gamecast.

  • Salty Buggah

    I can has some more runs now?

  • BigBlueAL

    Here is a crazy idea. How about using Hughes to pitch BOTH the 7th and 8th innings!?!?!?

    • Drew

      Hopefully the genius in the booth tells us if anyone is warming out there.

    • Steve H

      My head just exploded.

      • scooter

        As long as it’s not Kay’s head. The collateral damage would take out most of the metro area

        Marte is up for the 7th it looks like

    • Brazilian Yankee

      With Thome leading off the 7th inning for the Sox, we’ll probably get Coke or Marte.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Given how HR prone Coke is, let’s hope it’s Marte.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Well he’s warming up so that’s good.

  • whozat

    Tex looking terrrrrrrible lately

    • scooter

      Just not seeing offspeed stuff lately

      I can’t believe they haven’t destroyed Garcia.

      • Brazilian Yankee

        Tex has been swinging through changeups all season long.

  • Salty Buggah

    Tex in a major slump since Letterman

  • dygg

    Remember in May, when Toronto was “for real”?

    • dygg

      That was adorable.

    • cjc

      lol I just pissed myself hilarious

    • Zack

      thats when the Yankees were going to finish 4th because they have no depth and bunch of old guys playing for money

    • JobaWockeeZ

      They wanted another 2008 Rays team and the MSM pinned their hopes on them.

  • Yankee1010

    Are the Red Sox really going to blow out the Jays when it’s a Byrd-Halladay matchup? It’s not looking good.

    • cjc

      yep Riccardi talking hourly about the trade situation seems to have fucked Halladay up but good

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Meh Halladay hasn’t been as great since that groin thing.

        • whozat

          But the Yanks should have traded Montero, Hughes and Jackson for him. HE’S ROY HALLADAY!!!!!!!

          • JobaWockeeZ

            It’s an instant WS!! Eff the future! We’ll buy more free agents because we all know the Yanks have a forest of money trees!

      • Yankee1010

        I think it’s a combination of that and him not being fully right. He hasn’t come back well from the groin injury and his stuff doesn’t seem to have the same bite.

        • whozat

          Sounds to me like it’s the groin thing, but people need a more dramatic narrative so they keep bringing up the trade rumors.

          • Yankee1010

            I agree that it’s mostly the groin thing. But supposedly he was completely ready to be traded. I can see how that would mess with him, but the groin is probably the bigger issue.

  • http://leegrantphotography.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/madmax.jpg gxpanos

    Dont mean to mess with the GT, but I’m interested in what people think about this; I wrote it in response to Accent Shallow in the Betances thread. He was disputing that TJ adds velo (Accent’s words in quotes):

    “It’s easier to generate velocity with a repaired ligament, as opposed to the frayed or damaged ligament”

    How does this statement contradict the statement, “TJS can make guys throw harder.” TJS means repairing (actually replacing) a damaged ligament.

    So:

    A damaged ligament can lead to diminished velocity, and a repaired ligament can increase that velocity. TJS repairs the ligament, therefore TJS can be the reason for increased velocity.

    If I’m not missing something, it seems to me that when someone says TJS can increase velocity, it’s perfectly sound. Now, regarding morons who say that anyone can have TJS and thus can gain velo are dumb. The surgery only increases velo if the ligament is in fact damaged in the first place. I dont think the “increased velo” thing is a meme. And obviously it’s not exact/a sure thing, every guy/arm is different, and rehab exercises can also be part of the reason for increased velocity. But in general, it’s sound.

    • JGS

      a lot of times, when younger kids are having TJ surgery, their ligaments were damaged before they could ever reach their full potential so that after the surgery they can hit higher digits than they ever could before simply because they hadn’t built up the necessary strength when they had a healthy ligament hence the misconception that it improves your velocity

    • Accent Shallow

      That’s right. The myth is that TJS on a healthy arm will allow you to throw harder. That’s simply not correct.

      And TJS isn’t guaranteed to restore your arm to “as good as new”. For some guys, the stuff/velocity simply doesn’t return.

      • http://leegrantphotography.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/madmax.jpg gxpanos

        Cool, noted.

        We should organize a group prayer session for the Yankee TJ’s, make sure Mo knows the fans want them back.

    • Drew

      I think part of the reason it adds velocity is that the ligament they put in is actually more elastic, it can stretch better. I forget where I heard that.

  • Lanny

    No team has quit quite like the Blue Jays.

    • cjc

      if riccardi keeps is job there should be an investigation

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        He should be fired for the batshit insane contract he gave Wells and the slightly less batshit insane one Rios got, which caused the whole Halladay episode in the first place.

        • Accent Shallow

          I’m under the impression that the Wells contract was the brainchild of ex-Jays president Paul Godfrey, in an attempt to placate the Toronto fans for letting Carlos Delgado walk.

          • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

            Really? Haven’t heard that before.

            Anyway, as I’m not the most reasonable person here, he should also be fired for not getting Lincecum for Rios when he had the chance to do it. I mean, Lincecum is better then nothing, which is what he got from the White Sox for Rios.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      They haven’t quit, Byrd just got his HGH shipment. He’s unbeatable.

  • BigBlueAL

    Hallady better not pitch a shutout against the Yankees next weekend.

    • Accent Shallow

      He hasn’t been the same since the groin issue.

    • JGS

      you know he will

      • cjc

        9 innings you can book it now

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Oh he probably will.

  • Bugsy

    Off Topic: Why does Ron Washington keep batting Marlon byrd in the clean up. So fucking annoying. It’s almost as bad as when Angels batted Izturis in the 3 hole–and that was a joke.

  • Drew

    D-Mart time.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    No Coke, Pepsi!

    Looks like Damaso got his late inning LOOGY job back.

    • BigBlueAL

      So I guess my crazy theory of having Hughes pitch both the 7th and 8th was too crazy for Girardi to consider.

      • whozat

        Whoa, whoa…he’s pitched like, 8 innings this month. Don’t be ridiculous. What if they need him tomorrow? Better keep him on ice.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          No, lets use him now and have him get worn out by October, Torre-style.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        I’d rather have Phil available for an inning tomorrow. If he goes two, he’s not. That’s not Girardi, that’s Cashman.

    • whozat

      Totally worth a 3/12 deal.

      • Zack

        i love judging deals in year 1 ;)

      • Accent Shallow

        This was confusing at the time, and has ascended to “baffling.”

        Maybe he’ll redeem himself in 2010. Good pitchers don’t lose it just like that, as volatile as they are.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Thank goodness. Last year’s “He can get righties and lefties out” theory didn’t go well. Maybe he could in the NL Central, but not here.

  • BigBlueAL

    Robertson warming up, now way can Hughes get an out or 2 in the 7th and pitch the 8th.

  • E-ROC

    Damn matchups.

  • Bugsy

    DRoB prediction: 2 BB, 2 K

    • JGS

      1BB, 1K

      • John Duci

        .1 ip 3h 3er Losing pitcher

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Sarcasm?

          • John Duci

            Just trying to get him to put up zeros

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Oh the reverse RAB curse. Gotcha.

    • E-ROC

      3k

      • Accent Shallow

        There’s already one out in the inning.

        However, I believe it.

  • Adam

    DROB is gauranteed to blow this one…watch

    • scooter

      Are you channeling Lanny?

      You realize if the Yankees sign that Cuban defector, you could have Marte, Mitre and Marti on the staff

    • Little Bill

      D-Rob is awesome. Have a little more faith in the kid that has been solid all year.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      …Why? He’s good.

  • Drew

    D-Rob go get that shit.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    I bet that George Steinbrenner Yankeeography is gonna rip him big time.

    • Accent Shallow

      More of a hagiography, am I right?

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        I said YANKEEography, bubby. I’ve never heard of a Baseball team called the Hagios. I think you’re making it up!

    • JMK

      Did you see that piece Caple did on Steinbrenner HS? It was so painful to read.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Meh, lame attempt at humor. I really don’t read much Caple, in all honesty.

  • Salty Buggah

    K-ROB!!!!!

  • Accent Shallow

    Dave Robertson: short Phil Hughes.

    • yankees=warriors

      I’d prefer Hughes himself.
      And it’s not like Hughes has pitched much this month, he could use the innings…

      • JobaWockeeZ

        At this point it’s not going to matter.

  • BigBlueAL

    Surprised Girardi didnt bring in Coke to face Kotsay…

  • John Duci

    Hughes better come out for the 8th. This game is sooooo boring and I just wanna see that stud pitch

    • Little Bill

      He’ll pitch the 8th. I really think there’s rules against Hughes pitching 2 innings until the stakes get higher.

  • Salty Buggah

    cmon Robo

    • Salty Buggah

      no runs please

  • Bugsy

    ah shit!

  • baravelli

    I had a crazy dream last night in which Dave Roberston was a pinch-runner, and he was involved in a wacky play where he passed the runner ahead of him on the basepaths, but there were like three throwing errors on the play, and the runners managed to get themselves back in order somehow.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Sounds like a whacky dream.

      Mine from last night: I got a co-worker, who is neither good-loking nor nice, pregnant. And everybody was mad at me because I didn’t spend any time with her. Man, was I lucky when I realized it was only a dream.

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    Robertson has a very good curve and he’s thrown it twice in this outing.

    • whozat

      Yeah. They needed to throw more to Ramirez. Unless he had zero confidence he could throw any for strikes.

  • Bugsy

    yay yay yay, we get to see hughes pitch 4 outs

  • BigBlueAL

    Hughes must be in shock right about now.

  • Salty Buggah

    no runs Philly

  • Drew

    I’d rather him give up hits than walks. Hopefully Philly can hammer down the 3rd out.

  • Salty Buggah

    A-rod and Joba Guitar Hero?

  • JMK

    Did Girardi forget how to count to eight?

  • Accent Shallow

    Nix has been killing the Yankees this series.

    Well, as much killing as you can do with still losing the first two games.

  • E-ROC

    Hey, there is a Phil Hughes sighting.

  • Riddering

    No, Hughes is the Most Intersting Man in the World.

    • Riddering

      *interesting

      I got so excited about his next pitch I didn’t stop to look at my spelling!

    • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

      No, Hughes doesn’t like beer. He prefers Crown Royale.

  • Zack

    drop the deuce on him!

  • Drew

    Dang went with the cut 2-2

  • BigBlueAL

    So Hughes is able to pitch the 7th but only in an emergency?? Would it really have been that hard to have brought in Hughes after Marte??

    I know Im beating a dead horse but honestly the way Girardi has used Hughes lately is beyond mind-boggling.

    • Salty Buggah

      Meh, K-Rob is good too.

    • Drew

      He was going to pitch the 8th. D-Rob should’ve got the job done. It was a good spot for him with the high leverage situation.

  • Drew

    WOOOTT

  • Salty Buggah

    HUUUUGHES!

  • Tampa Yankee

    Good to see Hughes live up to his ROOGY status

  • Riddering

    Awesome “Hughes ‘Da Man’” sign there. Lucky for those people Girardi actually used him this game.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      That’s a T-Shirt right there.

  • Mike bk

    so does girardi pull hughes to start the 8th or automatically go to mo with 2 outs in the inning cause we know hughes cant get 4 whole outs?

    • Salty Buggah

      relax the Girardi hate

      • Drew

        it will never stop. We could win the WS this year and next year in April people will complain about his managerial decisions.

        • Riddering

          If he wasn’t letting players bunt, we could win two WS championships this year.

          • JobaWockeeZ

            Only 2? Fire him.

      • Mike bk

        that’s not girardi hate. he panic’s to mo plenty of times even when he was using hughes a lot more than he has lately.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          So? He’s using his best reliever out there and since they each only pitch an innings, they can be used again the subsequent day. Frankly it’s annoying how people will complain when Mo comes out.

          • JobaWockeeZ

            only pitched an inning [...]

          • Mike bk

            if he makes mo pitch 4 outs it’s not just an inning is it? frankly it’s annoying when people complain without reading the initial statement.

            so you enjoyed those games in tampa watching mo get loose in 5 run games, got it.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Read your own statement.
              he panic’s to mo plenty of times even when he was using hughes a lot more than he has lately.

              He let Mo get 4 outs only 9 times this year. That’s not “plenty” of times. And most of those times came before Hughes was a reliever and before he was the bullpen wasn’t as good as it was.

              There’s been like only a couple times where he really “panicked” and the only one I know is the Tampa game. That’s only ONE game. Using ONE game like that makes no sense whatsoever when he’s NEVER done it again. Seriously if you’re complaining about that game then there’s really nothing to complain about. Seriously people are complaining when arguably the greatest reliever of all time is pitching. Unbelievable.

              • JobaWockeeZ

                so you enjoyed those games in tampa watching mo get loose in 5 run games, got it.

                Oh I’m sorry I reply to this. Yes I did enjoy watching one of the best relievers warm up just in case the 5 run lead gets shortened which was possible.

                But Girardi sucks for getting ready just in case.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Maybe he just needs to do better to make some folks happy. You know, if the team was 33 games over .500, had the best record in the AL and was 6 games . . . .oh that’s right. Never mind.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          The “argument” against that is because he has the best players and if it was another manager they would have a better record.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            Prove it.

  • Zack

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns

    Peavy left his rehab start due to elbow tightness.

    -Although I’m not sure if that’s from getting hit there last time out.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      I was amazed that Williams gave up basically the same package after he got hurt as he offered before. If he winds up with TJ, that’s going to be one horrendous deal.

      • Arman Tamzarian

        Seriously, How has Williams not be ripped to pieces for that deal?

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Or the Swisher deal, where he basically got back Wilson Betemit who he released a few months later. We all know Swish and Ozzie didn’t get along, but that’s a bad one as well.

        • Accent Shallow

          I’m not totally sold on Poreda, who was the big piece in the deal.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            I like him a lot as a reliever.

            But man, they dealt four nice young arms for Peavy AND ate that contract.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              And Peavy was hurt!

  • Salty Buggah

    no DP again Robbie

  • GG

    Halladay is kinda gettin knocked around today by the GritSox

    • Zack

      and Verlander is losing against the Rays. which is shocking because i was told once you threw 98-100 as a starter all your problems go away and you will be perfect every time out there

      • Tampa Yankee

        ietc

      • Riddering

        The guns must off when he’s pitching then. No other option.

      • GG

        its odd that verlander was thrown back out there for the 8th, dude logged 125 pitches

        • whozat

          Jim Leyland is old school. He doesn’t care about your “legitimate concerns about pitcher health”

        • Tampa Yankee

          Leyland knew they’d take a the lead and put him in line for the win

  • Salty Buggah

    Ummm Williams…JoPo isnt going to steal

  • Accent Shallow

    Yeah, Posada the baserunner is worthy of your concern. This isn’t 1995.

  • GG

    Flashes the laziness

  • Drew

    Ha Jorgie talkin a little shit to Alexei

  • Salty Buggah

    Robbie got lucky there

  • Salty Buggah

    Oh yay Melky up with RISP…cmon Melky, make us happy

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Why not bunt with Melky? Girardi makes no sense.

    • Salty Buggah

      HAHA!

  • Drew

    There it is Melk!!! :) LECHEEEE

  • JGS

    MELKY!

  • Salty Buggah

    WOOHOO MELKY!

  • BigBlueAL

    I love it when Melky plays umpire!!

  • Accent Shallow

    Melky Cabrera: not as bad as RAB thinks.

    • whozat

      The numbers don’t agree with you.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        Melky’s no Evan Longoria, that’s for sure.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Well he’s not an instant black hole. He’s better than last year with his league average .743 OPS

      • Accent Shallow

        I’d still rather have him than Gardner.

    • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

      One hit does not a good player make.

  • baravelli

    Yeah Yankees, way to show some four-to-two’d.

  • E-ROC

    Its not often you see Jeter intentionally walked.

    • Riddering

      Eh, it happens when he has a 2-4 hit game. I know the last time was in Tampa and Johnny made then pay.

      Would be nice to have another double from Hairston here.

  • GG

    what????

  • Dan

    he’s lucky he wasnt out there cause he wasn’t busting out of the box

    • whozat

      seriously. He and Robbie have both not-run-hard out of the box once today.

  • John Duci

    whats wrong with JD?

    • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

      I think he got a tweak of his leg. Last time he hit a gb he didn’t run very hard.

  • Bugsy

    wtf, no damon? c’mon.

  • Dan

    classic overmanaging

    • Drew

      What?

    • whozat

      One assumes that there’s an issue with Damon.

      • Drew

        Nah, I think he pulled Damon to put a weak hitter up with the bases loaded. Joe also knew Linebrink would come in, Joe thought the righty-righty matchup just felt right…

    • Zack

      classic overreacting

  • Salty Buggah

    Jeter = Feared

  • MikeD

    Melky knows Brett Gardner is close to returning, so he’s amping his game up.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      I think that interview with Steve Serby pumped him up.

      • Riddering

        He’s not letting RAB send him back to playing with rocks.

  • Bugsy

    if they score, it means no hughes in the 8th.

    :(

    • Bugsy

      so no hughes.

  • Riddering

    Nice job to get another run in.

  • Salty Buggah

    ah man, I thought Jerry got a hit

  • JGS

    a tex message!

  • JSquared

    M-TEX!!!!

  • Salty Buggah

    stat padder

  • Tampa Yankee

    wooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooo

  • BigBlueAL

    Great, there goes a save for Mo and my fantasy team.

    • GG

      me too….and I WAS up 1 HR

  • Riddering

    Leno called Tex since his last AB.

  • Zack

    BOOM!

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    Tex is the man

    • Teix is the Man

      Hells yeah!

  • MikeD

    First to 100 on the Yanks in ’09.

  • Salty Buggah

    I hope thats gets him going again

  • MikeD

    Here goes Michael Kay talking pitching to an actual MLB pitcher. Here’s an idea Mike: If a left-handed hitter always knew you were going to throw a fastball, he’d hit even more HRs.

    • scooter

      Let’s not confuse Michael with facts here.

      Linebrink isn’t trying to throw a breaking pitch down the middle. I’d assume that pitch is supposed to be in the dirt on 1-2

      Linebrink probably watched Garcia fool Tex several times on breaking stuff

  • Chris

    So now Melky’s being criticized even when he contributes.

    What a fanbase.

    Nice, Tex.

    • Bugsy

      not only is this comment lnt like 15 minutese late. it is also baseless.

  • GG

    That was the first even remotely “cheap” HR I remember Tex hitting to right at the stadium, usually they are way gone

  • Accent Shallow

    Phil Hughes: low leverage mopup man

  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    …Sterling is pssing me off–he keeps saying Hughes will pitch the 8th…he also kept saying Hughes pitched the 7th.

    WTF? Didn’t he already pitch this series?

  • Salty Buggah

    Hope Johnny’s OK

    • Randy A.

      cramps in both of his calves according to waldman/sterling

      doesnt seem to be too serious

  • Riddering

    Pete Rose won a Clemente award? Never knew that.

  • Salty Buggah

    4 outs 12 pitches

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Joe should let him get the save.

      • Little Bill

        No need to pitch him 2+ innings. I don’t think they want him doing that until we get close to the playoffs. He hasn’t pitched 2 full innings in a month. Throw Bruney out there to mop up.

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          He has thrown 12 pitches, he is not really overworked by going another inning. I’d rather keep Bruney and Coke fresh for tomorrow.

        • whozat

          he’s certainly thrown 30 or more pitches, though.

      • Drew

        No thanks…

  • Ivan

    I don’t wanna sound cocky, but, rite now no team can fuck wit the yankees.

  • scooter

    Damon out with cramping of the calves – so nothing too serious.

    Hot day – could be dehydration

  • JGS

    who pitches the ninth now?

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Hughes.

      • JGS

        I hope so, but somehow I doubt it

  • JSquared

    I’m amazed at how bad the Blue Jays can embarrass themselves… against PAUL FUCKING BYRD.

    • scooter

      Get-away day for the Jays – I guess they packed up Friday night

      They’ll be a lot more difficult at home – but I dunno how Gaston keeps his job

      I agree with Kay and Al here – WS looked like they’ve quit a bit – so you wonder if Guillen’s job is safe. Mariotti must be having a field day with this

      • JSquared

        Gaston has been fine, management has had bad moves, but 0 Runs against Paul Byrd is not Gaston’s fault.

        • DreDog

          I agree, I think Cito is a decent+ manager. When they were on a tear in the beginning of the year, there were a couple of articles on how good he was. He’s not the second coming, but he isn’t dirt.

          • scooter

            I like Cito, too – and I know JP left him with garbage.

            If the Jays mail it in from here on, will JP can him, claiming that he lost the team?

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    It looks like Mike Stanton isn’t finding Double A as appealing as Jesus did.

    • Salty Buggah

      Jesus is Jesus and not many can compare

    • JSquared

      Nope, and Jesus played in a Pitchers Park.

      • Accent Shallow

        Jesus wasn’t exactly ripping up Trenton:

        http://www.minorleaguesplits.c.....?pl=524968

        • JSquared

          Which is why i said he was playing at a pitchers park… he could’v been better, and in a different park probably would have.

          • DreDog

            Those #’s at 19 are darn good.

            • JSquared

              Combined numbers, yeah, Home numbers weren’t special, away numbers were great.

              • DreDog

                That’s why I said darn good instead of damn good.

                F-ing Dye

        • MikeD

          Really? A 913 OPS is good anywhere. In a pitcher’s park and from a 19 year-old making his first stop in AA, it’s actually pretty damn great.

          • Jack

            He was referring to the .623 at home.

          • Accent Shallow

            Yeah, Jesus was awesome. An OPS over 1100 on the road? Are you serious?

            That ~650 OPS at home isn’t great, but apparently Trenton makes Petco look like Coors Field circa 2000.

          • JSquared

            We’re talking Home/Away.

  • Little Bill

    Sox announcers are such a joke. “Mark Weigner cost us another game with his miscall at 1st base. Everytime he calls our games, calls go against us.” Yeah, he’s why you idiots got swept.

    • Salty Buggah

      wow dumbasses

    • JSquared

      Tell him to watch our games more often, those are blown calls.

  • Accent Shallow

    I’m fairly certain Bobby Jenks has a tooth count in the single digits.

    I also love seeing opposing teams closers brought in because “they need work” due to the Yankees not giving them a late inning lead.

    • mtt

      “I’m fairly certain Bobby Jenks has a tooth count in the single digits.”
      It would be interesting if someone kept track of this statistic. I suspect low tooth count has a strong correlation with GRIT.

  • Drew

    Wagner pitching in Boston.

    • whozat

      That’s some high-leverage work over there.

    • Tampa Yankee

      Stuck out the side (mixed in a double).

  • Bugsy

    yankees are awesome. so awesome that i’m beginning to forget that last year even happened.

    • MikeD

      Give us #27 this Fall and I’ll even forget ’04.

  • Drew

    fuckin shift

  • gio

    Phil Choke. WHOOO HOOOOO!!!

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Every manager needs his own Scott Proctor.

    • Salty Buggah

  • Salty Buggah

    Sorry Hinske sometimes shift happens

  • E-ROC

    Hughes threw too many pitches, so lets bring in Coke.

    • Zack

      or maybe:
      5 run lead, lets not use our set up man just because

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Nahh Girardi is an idiot and we all know it.

  • http://www.twitter.com/wahbjo01 Jordan

    Cokie lovefest

  • pat

    GETCHA BROOMS OUT BITCHES

  • Riddering

    Hey, that was actually a pop-up!

  • Salty Buggah

    get a K Cokie

  • gio

    “Girardi likes to use Coke in these situations.”

    Everytime I hear Kay/Sterling say this, I chuckle.

  • MikeD

    HR Coke is at it again.

  • Drew

    Coke, this is not ideal.

  • pat

    hahah yay phil coke.

  • Salty Buggah

    damn HR

  • Tom Zig

    again with the long ball.

    Phil Coke what’s wrong?

  • whozat

    Man, Coke really can’t not give up dingers.

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    That was a good pitch by phil. Got to give the batter credit.

  • Riddering

    Now TBS claims that the jet stream also carries balls directly to the bullpen. So there are two streams: one to the short right porch and one to the Yankee pen?

    • Zack

      dont forget about the ones to center, left center and left

      • Riddering

        And the worst ones: when he ball gets caught and shot into the center deck.

        • Riddering

          *second deck

          • Zack

            its like left field is 300FT and right field has a 2 foot wall or something

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          The whole outfield is like a airhockey table.

  • Drew

    If he walks him Joe will be fuming.

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    LOL, wouldn’t really be a Phil Coke outing without a homerun allowed.

  • Tom Zig

    Phil its Mark Kotsay, there is a reason he has been on 1000 different teams

  • Tampa Yankee

    woooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooo

  • MikeD

    You know your team is playing really well at home when they go 4-2 on the recent homestand for a .667%, which actually lowers their winning percentage at home for the year.

  • Accent Shallow

    Yay Coke! Yay win!

    (Seriously Phil, stop pointing at home runs! Alternatively, just stop giving them up. Thanks.)

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Phil Coke is amazing.

  • Tom Zig

    Blue Jays, thanks for nothing

  • John Duci

    Another day. Another game. Another win.

  • Joba or Hughes to the pen

    Man where are the people who say Robertson and Coke can be set-up men at?Can’t wait to see Mo retire and see no one can replace him.Maybe MO will get the respect that Jeter gets for hitting small singles every game.

    • gio

      So, I’m gonna take that as a knock on Jeter, and that’s just absurd.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Let me guess: Your solution is putting Joba or Hughes to the pen?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      I laughed.

    • Tampa Yankee

      oaktag

    • Salty Buggah

      Who says they cant?

    • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

      Wow. No words to say about this post.

    • Drew

      By “small singles,” you mean fun size?

    • Riddering

      Yeah, fuck singles! They’re worse than walks.

      It also amuses me how Mo doesn’t get “respect” somehow because the Yankees can’t plug in someone with his unbelievable talent and success. Forgetting, of course, that Mo wasn’t the Mo we know already in 1995.

  • Salty Buggah

    WIN!

  • gio

    “We play today, we win today. Das it.”

    I think Mariano Duncan is the team’s motivational speaker this year.

  • Drew

    Tiger just has to gain a couple strokes and the day will be a success.

  • Joba or Hughes to the pen

    Funny how Aceves has more wins then Joba:)

    • Tampa Yankee

      Fun Fact for you… Alan Embree once won a game without having to throw a pitch! That’s how overrated W’s and L’s are.

    • Tom Zig

      Do you know who also has more wins than Joba?

      CC Sabathia.

      Do you know how old Joba is?

      24

      What do these things have to deal with each other?

      Nothing. Kind of like your statements.

  • pat

    U know you have a good team when your swingman is 9-1.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Al Aceves = 2009 Aaron Small award winner.

  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    Listening to jopo, I’m thinking Molina isn’t all bad, I wish we could rest jorgie and arod more–2 days at a time, no dh, no ph, and start pulling them both in 7th or 8th after an at bat when possible.

    • Zack

      you have to wait til rosters expand to do all that

    • whozat

      How does what Posada says affect Molina’s poor hitting?

      • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

        What Po said changed my opinion of how much rest he needs I don’t think the production dropoff is worse than a broken JoPo in the playoffs.

  • Zack

    http://insider.espn.go.com/esp.....mons_peter

    I love Gammons, spin the horrible signings of Penny/Smoltz and say by cutting them they saved money to acquire Wagner.

    • scooter

      Part of the Master Plan, no doubt – paying Smoltz to pitch for the Cardinals, and Penny to pitch for whoever

      (Also paying Lugo to play SS with the Cards)

      V-Mart makes that lineup deeper for sure – but I wonder if they’ll regret losing Masterson in the long term – especially if Wakefield’s back problems continue.

    • Tampa Yankee

      and get Joey Gathright!

    • Dela G

      gammons is a moron in my opinion, so i’m ok with that

      • Salty Buggah

        No Dela, thats not an opinion, its a fact.

        • Dela G

          well then that settles it :D

      • scooter

        I still remember when he was one of the best baseball reporters out there.

        He’s become a Red Sox shill/fanboy. There’s occasional nuggets of wisdom – but you’ve gotta mine for them amidst all the crap

  • Dela G

    what a great win

  • DreDog

    Peavey left his rehab start with tightness in his elbow. I guess he won’t pitch against the Sox. Ozzie is going to have fun with Peavey.

    • DreDog

      Spelling fail by me. Peavy.

  • Drew

    Tiger charging.