Game 144: Avoiding the sweep

Kenny R on the playoff pitching rotations
Game 144 Spillover Thread

In yesterday’s game recap, I made an error. “The Yanks look to avoid their first sweep since early May tomorrow afternoon.” It shows how much I’ve put the Anaheim series out of my mind. So this will be the Yankees looking to avoid their first sweep since mid-July. They beat the crap out of the Orioles for most of the season, so let’s just chalk up the last two games to a market correction and hope they right the ship today.

The Yanks faced Jeremy Guthrie a few weeks ago, so you can catch his story in that post. Since then, it appears Guthrie has recovered. He allowed just two runs over six innings in the August 31 game, and followed that up with a seven-inning shutout of Texas.

In his last four starts, Guthrie is 3-1 with a 1.33 ERA, striking out 15 and walking just four. It’s a nice recovery from a mostly poor season. His ERA stood at 5.66 after the Angels shellacked him on August 15, which was preceded by the A’s thumping him. He has allowed just two home runs in those 27 innings, which is a good sign for Guthrie, who currently leads the AL in home runs allowed.

A recovery would be good not only for Guthrie, but for the Orioles. He’s headed to arbitration for the first time this off-season, and will be 31 years old just after Opening Day 2010. The rebuilding Orioles would do well to get a young player or two in return for him. He’s probably not going to help the team contend, and he could be attractive to other teams because he still has three arbitration years.

The Yanks send out CC Sabathia to stop the bleeding. Carsten Charles, league leader in games started and close in innings pitched, has been nothing but excellent for the Yanks of late. Since his five-run performance against Chicago in early August (which really wasn’t a totally bad game), CC has tossed 51.1 innings and allowed only 10 runs, striking out 63 to 11 walks. That’s the kind of K/BB ratio that made his run in Milwaukee last season so special. He’s basically been reproducing that for the Yanks since the beginning of August.

Damon’s back in the lineup after sitting out the past two days with a sore back. Girardi’s not messing around today. It’s the A-lineup to avoid the sweep.

Lineup:

1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Johnny Damon, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Nick Swisher, RF
9. Melky Cabrera, CF

And on the mound, number fifty-two, Carsten Charles Sabathia.

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Kenny R on the playoff pitching rotations
Game 144 Spillover Thread
  • Dela G

    won’t be able to watch today (going to a jets watch party here on campus)

    Very happy to see the “A” Lineup in today, and i hope they can beat the stuffing out of guthrie

  • Accent Shallow

    Nice D there.

  • Accent Shallow

    This A-Rod fellow is a pretty good hitter.

  • Little Bill

    A-Rod cannot be stopped. Where is everybody, watching the NFL?

  • Accent Shallow

    Oh, Hideki.

  • Accent Shallow

    A-Rod with the Cano-esque D on that popout.

  • danny

    woah, this place is deaddd today.

  • Salty Buggah

    Waking up at 10:40 and then watching the Yankees and the Broncos at the same time. Awesome

  • alex gonzalez

    garza and buccholz are battling in fenway. bottom of the 5th and still no score.

  • Salty Buggah

    It pisses me off when we have have a runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs and dont bring the run in.

  • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

    Argh CC :(

  • Salty Buggah

    HAHA. Bengals successfully fake the punt on the Broncos but then bobble a FG snap from the 15 and it ends up being Denver ball at the 50.

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      Gerald Sensabaugh baby! Blocked fg!

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        After a pretty bad showing of the defense. At least we are up 6-0.

        • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

          Yeah man, I’m stoked about Felix this season.

          • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

            I’m absolutely not sure about this team. There is a lot of talent, but I still don’t see them make the playoffs in this division.

            • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

              I got faith, I could see it going either way but…

              10-6 and playoffs was my first prediction, and I’m sticking to it.

              I want to see the Giants be that dominant team without Plax, their D is amazing but you saw how Eli was without Plaxico.

              /ready to be roasted.

              • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

                Caddy is tearing it up.

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  I’m sticking with 7-9, I’m a Debbie Downer with the Cowboys this year. And the defense is a disaster so far.

                • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

                  Damn. I have more faith than that, the offense is too good. The defense is not THIS bad.

                  Skins got no O. Giants O remains to be seen.

                  All those passes that TO ‘needed’, they go to other open receivers like Crayton and Miles. I expect Roy to be much better, who wouldn’t?

                  Love the run game too.

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  I’m skeptical. The OL is getting old and the WRs are nothing special IMO. And the secondary is very mediocre. Hope you’re right but I can’t see it so far.

                  The Redskins are nothing special, but Philly and NY probably have better temas then we do.

                • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

                  The o line?

                  Kosier >>>>>> that asshole cory proctor. Such a dick.

                • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                  I just wished we would address the OL in the draft some year. Flozell is getting worse by the day, Gurode is good, Colombo and Davis are okay, but nothing special, the LGs are all pretty bad.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Come on CC, get it together.

  • Accent Shallow

    Hey, it’s old buddy Chad Moeller!

  • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

    This isn’t CC’s day, I guess. :/

  • Accent Shallow

    Hey, it’s bane of my existence Brian Roberts!

  • Salty Buggah

    In other news, Kyle Orton sucks ass. Finally gets a completion after 15 mins. But gets sacked on a play where he barely got touched by falls down running away.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Isn’t he like 21-12 as starter? I guess Wins is a pretty overrated stat in Football, too. You see that, Michael Kay?

      • Salty Buggah

        Yea I guess they are. But he sucks really really bad. Did in Chicago (except for a bit), did in preseason, does now.

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          Sure he sucks. Why again did the Broncos think he would be any kind of solution, again?

  • Accent Shallow

    Oy, Swish

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Swish, me no gusta double plays.

    • Salty Buggah

      Im not sure but shouldnt it be no me gusta?

    • alex gonzalez

      i like the effort

  • Accent Shallow

    Anticipating tomorrow: the Jered Weaver “I can’t believe I gave up a home run, why is a capricious universe doing this to me?”

    • Accent Shallow

      As he mopes and pouts around the mound.

  • Accent Shallow

    Izturis has hit enough?

    .253/.287/.331 is “enough”? I don’t care if he’s Ozzie Smith, that’s horrendous.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    I hate the orioles.

  • Accent Shallow

    Reimold: apprentice Yankee killer

  • Salty Buggah

    More Complaining (I think this thread is going to be filled with me complaining) The Broncos have negative passing yards so far with 12 to go in the 2nd. Orton keeps throwing screens and is not throwing accurately down the field. Our running game is not doing well at all either.

    I though McDaniels was a good offensive coach?

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      You know, maybe they should have kept this Cutler dude in the first place.

      • Salty Buggah

        :sigh:

    • Salty Buggah

      Oh, the receiving yardage just went to the positive side. It was on a throw that was tipped into the air and luckily went for a 2 yard gain to a Broncos receiver.

    • Zack

      I cant even enjoy my Cincy D playing so well

  • Accent Shallow

    Great D by the goofy looking guy in center.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Nice catch by Fiorentino.

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    why wasn’t Jeter running there? Guy didn’t even look his way.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Shhhh, we shall not question his highness.

  • Salty Buggah

    Damnit Hideki

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Piece of cake trivia. Has to be Hairston.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      My thought was Josh Towers. And we are both right.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        But the question was who was in the lineup for the O’s right? Did Towers pitch that day?

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          I thought it was who was on the team? You’re probably right, though. Dammit. At least Towers was with the O’s that year.

  • Salty Buggah

    A-Godly arm…cmon ZZ

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Just awful Damon. Wake the fuck up.

  • Reggie C.

    WTF just happened.

    • Reggie C.

      nevermind. my eyes fooled me till i saw replay.

      Damon’s gonna revisit his deck this game … kinda has to to make up for that.

  • Salty Buggah

    WOW WTF?

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Wtf Damon.

  • Accent Shallow

    Just when the K-rate was starting to stabilize, you go and have a start like this.

  • Mikey K-9

    They have been sleep walking since Jeter passed the Iron Horse on Friday night.

    • Salty Buggah

      Meh, its just a mini-bad stretch and this game aint ovah either. We’ll get this

  • Reggie C.

    Chone Figgins should replace Damon nicely next season.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’m not sure he can play LF anymore. And he’s not young and will want big money and years.

      • Salty Buggah

        exactly, no me gusta

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      Please. Damon is having a great year and will have less money and years for him.

      If Figgins can come at the same rate, sure. But that’s unlikely.

  • MikeD

    Rules question. So what would have happened if Damon tossed the ball into the stands, and then it was thrown back immediately. Could Damon have still tried to throw the runner out? Or would the ball be dead? If it was ruled dead, then how many bases can the runner advance?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Two. Anytime a ball is thrown into the stands they got two.

      • MikeD

        Mike, thanks. That makes sense. I was trying to figure out if it would have been oddly beter if he tossed it in the stands after the catch, and then the runner could only advance one base to thir.d

  • bonestock94

    Milton Bradley making an appearance today

  • Salty Buggah

    Orton finally throws a good pass and our TE drops it

  • MikeD

    …again with the bunt shit.

  • JGS

    stop bunting with nick swisher!!!!

  • Salty Buggah

    no DP Swish

  • Reggie C.

    Swisher should never attempt a bunt again.

    Got lucky right there.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Again with the fucking bunting. Girardi’s going to call for it over and over until it works so he can say “Hey look, it worked! See I told you it was the right play!”

    • cjc

      99% sure he didn’t call it there he looked pissed at swisher and even did a little swing motion with his arm

    • alex gonzalez

      francona just called for the bunt in boston. looks like it may potentially work. i thought he never called for them.

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    This looks familiar…Swisher’s bunt pop-ups.

  • cjc

    boy girardi looks pissed did you see that swing motion with his arm and there is why you don’t bunt nick wtf

  • Salty Buggah

    Thats why you dont fuckin bunt

  • Salty Buggah

    no DP Melky

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Cbll

    Miles Baby!!

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Woohoo!

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    Melky should be buying Melky a steak dinner tonight.

  • cjc

    yay melky loves the bases juiced maybe he could give his budy robbie some advice

  • Salty Buggah

    HAH Melky!!!!!!!!

    Nice little lucky hits

  • Accent Shallow

    Hey, Melky!

  • JGS

    jesus, stop bunting

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Nice job for the Melk man there.

  • cjc

    fuck this bunting shit wtf jeter you’re 2-2 with a double jesus

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Again. Fucking again with the bunting. It’s okay, Guthrie’s not getting hit around this inning at all. Help him out.

  • Accent Shallow

    I don’t mind the Jeter bunt attempt. Gotta keep the defense honest.

    • Accent Shallow

      Ok, after the second try, I mind.

  • Salty Buggah

    OK, Jeter sometimes angers me when he bunts and then says bunting is right

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Please stop bunting. I beg of you.

  • MikeD

    Maybe the bone-head play by Damon will wake the Yankees’ hitters up. That would almost make it worth it.

  • Reggie C.

    Jeter wants to make an out too ….

    Joe G. and the bunting is getting nausceus(??)

    • Salty Buggah

      Im sure Jeter did that himself. He does that

  • cjc

    stupid just stupid why bunt in this park fuck

  • claybeez

    One of the best hits I’ve seen from Melky. Love the not all out approach. The bat control and flick.

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Even Michael Kay cannot stand to see/talk about it. That’s some shit, ain’t it?

  • Salty Buggah

    I actually agree with Kay about bunting

  • Reggie C.

    Leftwich just doesnt look good against the Dallas D. The ‘Boys are gonna break this open soon.

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      That play pisses me off.

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        Not anymore.

        Thank you, Nugent.

  • MikeD

    I agree with Kay on being annoyed at the bunt, but he’s got to stop saying “in this ballpark.” The new Yankee Stadium plays very little differently, if at all, from the old park. It’s Park Factor now ranks 20th out of 30 teams.

    • cjc

      sure but this team is perfectly built for this park and that does make a difference

      • MikeD

        I think we’re agreeing that they shouldn’t be bunting since the Yankees are an excellent hitting team.

        My point, though, is Kay is continuing the media perception that the new Stadium is a hitter’s park based on a very small sample size and a fairly windy April. It’s not Coors Easy, or whatever bullshit Olney and others have said. Park Factor takes into account both the Yankee hitters and the opposition. The new park is no different than the old park. It is prone to HRs to right, perhaps even slightly more than the old Stadium (perhaps), but like the Old Stadium it depresses doubles, triples and hits overall. Overall it is slightly favorable toward pitchers, exactly like the old Stadium.

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Heads up? Being remotely aware of the situation does not mean “heads up”.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    That’s at least the third time Tex has done that this year.

  • cjc

    boy that change to tex makes him look silly

    • Accent Shallow

      Seems like all changes do.

  • Accent Shallow

    Very pro-the curly hair.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    That was funny.

  • Salty Buggah

    With Tex’s swing, when he lets go of his bat, its gonna fly

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    anyone worried about Tex? I swear I never see him have 2 hits games lately.

    • cjc

      not even a little

    • Steve H

      Not worried. Great player in a slump. Only concern would be an injury, and there is no sign of that.

    • Salty Buggah

      as long as he’s hot in October, I dont mind

  • Salty Buggah

    cmon Alex, pass that baton

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Oof, that was your pitch A-Rod.

    • Salty Buggah

      yea it was

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Looked outside but you’ve got to swing with 2 outs.

  • Accent Shallow

    Nice job there, top of the order.

    /rolls eyes

  • Salty Buggah

    at least we tied it. It’s upto CC now. We got this.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
    • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

      I’m colorblind but I’m going to guess the called strike is at 2.3, 1.3?

      • Former RAB Lurker

        No, that’s a ball. The strike’s at about 1.1, 2.3.

    • Salty Buggah

      so A-rod was right

    • Steve H

      Agreed. And camera’s on the goal line in the NFL. How they don’t have that one is so stupid.

  • Bob Stone

    Damn – Sox go up 3-1 on the Rays with a Pedroia two run homer.

  • Salty Buggah

    Swisher getting a workout in RF today

  • Omar

    Ughhhhhh….I really wish that CC would stop sucking, and oh yeah. Buchholz held the Rays to one run over seven. If they make the playoffs the Yankees are NOT the favorites.

    • Salty Buggah

      troll

      • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

        It’s not worth responding to. At least Alex Gonzales is amusing.

      • Omar

        Yeah because a rotation of Sabathia/Burnett/Pettitte/and frighteningly enough Chamberlain isn’t the worst playoff rotation of LA, Boston, and Detroit.

        Homer.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          It’s not. Maybe you should actually look at the other team’s rotations before commenting.

          Oh yes, Jarrod Washburn and Paul Byrd scare the shit out of me.

          • Omar

            Verlander/Jackson? Yeah, because Chamberlain hasn’t done his best Paul Byrd impression the last few times out. Maybe YOU should look at other teams’ rotations before commenting:

            Verlander 136 tRA+ (690790797K/9) Sabathia 122 tRA+ (7.72 K/9) those stats will only get shittier after tonight’s start

            Edwin Jackson 108 tRA+ Andy Pettitte 106 tRA+

            Jarrod Washburn 97 tRA+ AJ Burnett 96 tRA+

            Chamberlain fucking sucks, I’d rather have Paul Byrd. If anything the player that should really scare the living shit out of you is AJ Burnett, whose also due for his yearly injury. Anyways, you (incorrectly) listed the Tigers as having a worse rotation, so at best the Yankees have the third worst rotation WOOOOOOOOOHHOOOOOOOO.

            Homer.

    • Zack

      Look Minaya, we know you’ve had a depression summer because the team you put together sucks, but dont bring it here.

      • Zack

        depression-filled

      • Omar

        Like I told the other Homer, how is Sabathia/Burnett/Pettitte/Chamberlain NOT the worst playoff rotation? Out of Detroit, LA, and Boston…huh? And don’t you dare mention “BUT IT’S THEIR PITCHING VERSUS OUR OFFESNE1!~!111!!” Yeah, because having the worst rotation and the best offense in the playoffs worked SOOOOO well the past eight seven times.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          You sir, are an idiot.

          • Salty Buggah

            and a troll

          • Omar

            Care to pull out some numbers to back that up? The best I’ve seen so far is the Yankees’ version of Eric Van.

        • Zack

          Angels:
          Lackey- yes
          Kazmir- hes had 2 good starts since the trade, but lets overreact to that
          Weaver- 4.75 era, 1.45 whip, .283 BAA post ASB
          Saunders- ….

          Detriot
          Verlander- yes
          Jackson- 4.48 era, 1.55whip, .290 BAA post ASB
          Washburn- 6.64 era, 1.48 whip, .293 BAA since trade
          Porcello- isnt he getting shut down? if not hes only a 5 inning pitchaaaaah

          Boston
          Beckett- been just as bad as AJ lately
          Lester- yes
          Buchholz- yeah 26 year old stud ace, we know
          Wake/Dicek/Tazawa/Byrd- do they have a 4th starter?

          • Omar

            Yeah, go ahead and Eric Van the shit out of these stats. “Post ASB” “Since the trade” This isn’t “Sons of RAB” The whole season fucking counts. And there is no way that I would rather have AJ Burnett or Andy Pettitte over that mouth breathing asshole that sleeps with his mouth open…or that fucking mealy mouth looking laptop thief over Pettitte. Anyways in regards to The Angels the only way that the Yankees are facing them in the first round of the playoffs is if the Red Sox pull out the division…other than that Lackey/Weaver is likely better than Sabathia/Pettitte or Sabathia/Burnett. Don’t forget that AJ Burnett has one of the highest walk rates in the AL, a terrible injury history, and a tRA+ of 96. He’s just a name at this point. Besides, do you REALLY think that the Yankees could take the Angels…I mean I’d love nothing more than to be reasonable and to point to the Yankees’ superior run differential and line up, but the past I dunno decade and a half has taught me otherwise when it comes to dealing with those assholes.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              …Seriously?
              What would be more accurate for the next Edwin Jackson? His first half stats or after the all star break? Because I doubt he’s going to be the 2.00 ERA pitcher in the playoffs when he’s been sucking ever since the all star break. Or wait since the Yankees suck so much Jackson is going to magically pitch better in October and have a 0.00 ERA.

              So Jackson’s bad starts don’t count but his good starts do.
              K.

              • Omar

                I never said his bad starts didn’t count, if you would take the time to read what I wrote about him I merely pointed out that his advanced stats are better than Pettitte’s (and much better than Burnett’s), how is that not taking his bad starts into account.

                On the bright side, at least the Yankees can fuck up Jeremy Guthrie.

                • Accent Shallow

                  You’re not using “advanced stats”, you’re using “an advanced stat”. Big difference.

            • Zack

              “Besides, do you REALLY think that the Yankees could take the Angels…I mean I’d love nothing more than to be reasonable and to point to the Yankees’ superior run differential and line up, but the past I dunno decade and a half has taught me otherwise when it comes to dealing with those assholes.”

              How do i even fucking respond to that? LAA beat NYY before so now Yankees will never, what advance stat did you use for that?

        • Accent Shallow

          Uh, what? You’re out of your damn mind.

          Verlander/Jackson/Washburn/Porcello? Please. That’s one guy to be scared of, two young guys fading down the stretch, and a pitcher who’s just not that good.

          Lester/Beckett/Buchholz/Wakefield? Maybe a little better on the top end, but I’ll take Pettitte/Chamberlain over their back end.

          Lackey/Santana/Kazmir/Weaver? That’s three guys who have had injury issues this year, and one guy who’s a home run dispenser.

          I’ll take the Yankees foursome against any of those.

          • Omar

            When mentioning Boston’s “back end” you forget that Andy Pettitte is the Yankees’ second best starter, and yes, Buchholz/Wakefield is better than Burnett/Chamberlain.

            • Accent Shallow

              This is hilariously misguided, and true only if you believe the last month is how they’re gonna pitch for the rest of the year.

              • Omar

                No, I believe the larger sample size of the whole season is the best example. Both Chamberlain and Burnett have a tRA+ below 100, and Pettitte has much much better numbers than Burnett. I’m the one whose hilariously misguided.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          LOLOLOLOL.
          Who said this troll isn’t amusing? Idiots are always amusing. Even funnier his is fail attempt to troll.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Joba did the same exact thing to that team buddy. Go back to your Sox blog pl0x.

      Your trolling sucks. To think that even trolling is something that Sox fans can’t even do right…
      Not that I’m surprised honestly.

      • Omar

        Maybe it’s because I’m actually a Yankees fan with legitimate concern over the suck of the rotation? They don’t even have an average starter between Chamberlain and Burnett, that and they’re facing teams with starters that shut even the best offenses down, and the Yankees are throwing starters out that can’t even throw up average numbers.

        You’re insane if you have no concern.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          I would be insane if I had no concern. But concern =/= trolling and endlessly bitching. AJ and Joba are sucking. I get that and understand that concern. But blowing it out of proportion and saying “OMFG THEY SUCK SO FUCKING MUCH INSTANT LOSS” is also batshit insane. Especially when other playoff teams have starter problems.

          And your excessive hyperbole is also annoying. You’re acting that the Yankees are throwing Brad Penny every 5 days and that every other team is throwing out King Felix every day.

          Each playoff team has rotation struggles. You’re acting as if every team doesn’t.

          • Omar

            Where did I say “instant lost” I merely pointed out that the Yankees are throwing the worst rotation out of the four likely playoff teams, and that is fucking scary.

            And sweet Jesus I hate Sean Henn.

            • Accent Shallow

              I merely pointed out that the Yankees are throwing the worst rotation out of the four likely playoff teams, and that is fucking scary.

              You can keep repeating this, but that does not make it true.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Well you did not “merely” point it out. Even if teams have a better rotation which I am not convinced yet since you only posted one advanced stat for the Tigers, but if teams do have a better rotation I am not convinced it will be a huge difference.

        • Zack

          “They don’t even have an average starter between Chamberlain and Burnett, that and they’re facing teams with starters that shut even the best offenses down”

          Washburn and Wakefield are shutdown pitchers- they’re aces on any other team but their own!

  • Accent Shallow

    CC, glad to see you’re human. Thanks for getting this clunker out of the way before October, now please rectify over the course of your next starts.

    • Omar

      He can’t handle the big game anyways.

      • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

        Hardy har har

      • JGS

        because he hasn’t pitched any big games the last two Septembers

    • Salty Buggah

      Eh, its not CC but its not a clunker. Should be only 2 ER in 5.

      • Omar

        0 Ks/2BBs

        • Steve H

          What a sample size.

          • Omar

            Yep, over six innings he increased his walk rate, and over a full season he’s posting his worst walk rate and K/BB since 2005.

            At any rate I was just pointing out that this is definitely a “clunker,” although as far as clunkers go this is one of the better ones I’ve witnessed.

  • TT

    Girardi will cost us a game in October with the stupid binting

  • Reggie C.

    Sanchez is doing good.

    • Bob Stone

      He looks very good.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Girardi must be made they couldn’t get the bunt down.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    I just got home–what is Girardi yelling about?

    • Salty Buggah

      Bad called strike 3 on a A-rod AB with bases loaded.

      And they were right.
      http://tinyurl.com/qbkaso (from Mike’s comment above)

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Who shit in Girardi’s sandwich?

  • JGS

    what the hell is going on down there?

  • Salty Buggah

    Aite Joe !!!!

    They had a great point

  • Accent Shallow

    How does Michael Kay not know what’s going on?

    That doesn’t look like that terrible a call. Yeah, it’s off the plate, but we’ve seen worse this year.

    • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

      A-Rod should have swung, even if it was a bit outside. As you mentioned, we’ve had 100X worse this season. That’s on A-Rod; it wasn’t an egregious call by any measure.

      • Salty Buggah

        eh, IDK. A-rod is a patient hitter and he already swung and miss on an outside/low pitch before. He didnt want to K swinging.

      • Zack

        Arod, and other top 5 players in the game, get the benefit of not having a huge strike zone when someone like Guthrie is pitching.

      • Drew

        If you expand the zone 2 inches outside, 2 inches inside, 2 inches high, 2 inches low, Al stands no chance. You can’t just expand the zone like that. Call balls, balls, and strikes, strikes.

  • Former RAB Lurker

    What was Girardi just ejected over?

    • alex gonzalez

      excessive use of the bunt

      • Steve H

        IETC.

        • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

          A-gon is pretty witty.

          • Steve H

            Yeah, and I was equally stunned because he was a big bunt proponent the other night.

            • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

              That’s why I can’t bring myself to take him serious about the whole ‘wins’ argument.

              He just fucks with us.

              • Steve H

                Yes, he must be.

            • alex gonzalez

              i said it because earlier in the thread Mike Axisa was extremely opposed to it. i think that bunts can be critical in a game when used the right way. but still not all the time.

              • Salty Buggah

                agreed

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                I agree that they can be beneficial in certain spots. That inning was definitely not one of those spots.

  • Accent Shallow

    Matsui is so slow that I bet Markakis could have forced him.

    • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

      Who wins in a foot race, Matsui or Molina?

      • JGS

        Matsui, but then his knees might blow up again

      • Accent Shallow

        Matsui.

      • Steve H

        Choice C. Unintentional comedy wins a foot race between those two.

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    You could take one pitch, Robbie.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Posada and Cano: pulling the ball foul.

    Get it done, Swish.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      That should reaading pulling the ball “fail.”

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Opportunities, they have been squandered.

  • MikeD

    I suppose if A-Rod said something insulting, I’d understand the ejection. Yet on a close call, the umpire really should use his judgment and caution when it comes to tossing a player. Without know what was said, hard to determine.

    • Zack

      aruging balls/strikes is automatic ejection. obviously they can get say something out of emotion and the ump lets it slide, but this was the next half inning, you’re going to get tossed

      • Zack

        they cant get mad and say

      • MikeD

        It is automatic, but umps will let it slide if it’s a quick emotional reaction and doesn’t show up the ump, the hitter doesn’t toss his bat in the air, etc. As you implied, though, if he continued bitching after he walked away and for the next half inning, then the ump should have tossed him. The first I noticed it was after we came back from the break and Girardi was arguing.

  • Salty Buggah

    Hinske at 3rd…not excited

    • MikeD

      ….or comfortable. There’s a reason he was moved off of third after he came up.

    • Steve H

      Eh. 7.5 game lead halfway thru September, very excited.

      • Salty Buggah

        You know, you’re right. Maybe it will be funny because Im not worried at all (OK, maybe a little because I love wins) about today’s game.

        • Zack

          Agreed. Thats why this is so ridiculous

          “UPDATE, 2:46 p.m.: That’s irresponsible of Alex to get tossed out there. At some point you have to let it go. Now it’s 3-3 and they don’t have their clean-up hitter.”

          How could you get thrown out of the important game in september with a 7+ game lead? omg how irresponsible

          • Salty Buggah

            yea I read it and thought it was dumb

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        7 game lead now. Boston already won.

  • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

    PeteAbe noted that Foster is the same umpire who called Jeter out at third in July because the throw beat him, then denied it later.

    So I’m guessing that A Rod and Girardi weren’t just upset about one third-strike call. They are upset because the ump is a tool.

    • alex gonzalez

      i would not be surprised if the yankees have the largest strikezone when at the plate, and smallest zone when pitching in the entire AL. the umpires have been bad a lot of the year.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    The Rays have gone from 72-60 to 72-70 in the last week and a half. Yikes.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Yes, Al, it is a sad state of baseball. Don’t sugarcoat it.

  • Salty Buggah

    Jeter broke the Yankees hits record again!

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD
      • Salty Buggah

        hehe

    • Steve H

      I’m not watching, was there another standing O?

      • Salty Buggah

        Yep, except this one was like a typical hit, for only like 30 secs.

    • MikeD

      Shouldn’t we stop and have a five minute celebration every time he sets a new record!

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Let’s go, Tex.

    Good swing by Johnny.

  • Salty Buggah

    OK, Tex dont K again with runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Guthrie is bringing the srs pwn to Tex right now.

  • MikeD

    Can Tex not hit a change ever?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Tex has been bringing the suck lately. Very MVP like.

    • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

      Can’t hit a change up lately.

  • Salty Buggah

    Damn…but why the fuck did he get booed?!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      They’d boo A-Rod in that spot. At least they’re fair.

  • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

    Third time Tex has left a man on third with less than two outs. And the sixth Yankee at bat this game where that happened. Very, very frustrating.

    • Salty Buggah

      good to get that out the system now I guess.

    • Riddering

      Kevin Long has this all down in his notebook, don’t worry.

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    Is there a reason that the Yanks haven’t run on mr. I’ve thrown out only 5% of people trying to steal on me?

    • Riddering

      Same reason they don’t run on Varitek.

      It’s just not sporting!

  • Steve H

    What really grinds my gears about A-Rod getting tossed is that I’m in a tight battle in the semi’s of my fantasy league, and now I lost a huge bat. PeteAbe is right, that’s totally irresponsible on A-Rod’s part.

    • MikeD

      PeteAbe hates A-Rod, so he’ll grab any opportunity to bash him.

      What’s really irresponsible is left Guthrie activated on my fantasy team knowing he was facing the Yankees.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    McNabb down in Philly…

    • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

      Carolina! I meant.

      • Steve H

        Let the QB controversy begin!

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

          As a Giants fan, I can only hope the Eagles decide to go with Vick. That only means good things for the rest of the NFL and when the Eagles do poorly, I am happy.

  • Salty Buggah

    MATSUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Hinske must’ve been a student of Patches O’Hoolahan.

  • Bob Stone

    Hit-Deki!!!!!!!!!!! HUGE hit!

  • Salty Buggah

    Sean Henn, I hope you implode

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    Sean Henn!

  • Riddering

    GODZILLA!

    Also, I love reading comments (elsewhere) on how today’s game must be won by the Yankees because Boston took the first of their doubleheader. Confidence level there = 1.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Sean Henn looks as awful as ever. Zero conviction in his pitches.

    • Salty Buggah

      YES’ sucky gun says 91 mph for his fastball….didnt he throw like 94-95 before

  • Salty Buggah

    This baseball game has 8 total runs scored…The DEN-CIN game has 6 total points scored.

  • http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/07/23/alg_burnett.jpg Mike Pop

    Come on Robbie!

  • Riddering

    Is it just me or does Robbie take more first pitches than he used to do?

    • Bob Stone

      It seems like he does to me too.

  • MikeD

    Can we start a petition to stop this smoking ads from appearing all the time? I don’t advocate smoking, but these ads are terroist attacks.

    • Bob Stone

      I’m sick of them too. They must be effective because they bother so many people here. I’ll sign.

  • bonestock94

    Oh man, I know this game means nothing but all this stranding RISP is giving me a headache.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Al is doing a piss poor job of explaining this.

    • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

      I think Kay has a foot (sock?) fetish.

  • Accent Shallow

    Hey, first K of the evening!

  • Bob Stone

    Great comment by Kay: “It’s like working with Shari Lewis” when Leiter was showing the baseball and sock routine. For those of you here too young to know Shari, she starred in a show for kids in the 1950’s and used a lot of puppets.

    • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

      Didn’t she do “Lambchop”?

      • Bob Stone

        Yes – along with Hush Puppy, Charlie Horse, Black Crow and Wing Ding. Black Crow got dumped in the 1960’s during the civil rights era for obvious racial connotations.

    • Riddering

      I was born in the 80s and I know Lewis.

      But then, I spent the other day marveling that someone twice my age didn’t know who Gene Kelly was. And again when someone my age didn’t know REO Speedwagon.

      So sad.

      • Bob Stone

        It is sad but not surprising. Ignorance is everywhere.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      No one is THAT young to not at least know Lamb Chop, right?

      • Bob Stone

        You would think.

  • Riddering

    The YES booth is so much better with a pitcher in the mix.

    • Bob Stone

      Definitely.

  • Salty Buggah

    Get a DP CC

    • Salty Buggah

      Aite Cap’n!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • JGS

      ok

    • Riddering

      Damn Salty, I want you calling games behind the plate for the Yanks.

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Nice DP.

    • MikeD

      I think Cano’s turn was even more impressive. He’s got to have the strongest arm of any second baseman.

  • Accent Shallow

    7 innings, 3 runs? I’ll take it.

    • JGS

      and only one strikeout means he didn’t have his A stuff. very nice

    • Salty Buggah

      yea and it should be 2 if not for Damon

    • alex gonzalez

      he pitched better than the other guys. that is all that matters to get that win.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Should be two runs, but Damon can’t count.

      • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

        It’s just Johnny being Johnny.

  • http://tomorrowsnewsyesterday.wordpress.com/ JMK

    Maybe it’s just me but I think Kate Smith’s voice is atrocious. It would be great if we could get Ronan to do it every game. His voice is unbelievable.

  • Salty Buggah

    WOW, Orton FAIL!!!! Holds on to the ball to long and gets sacked to take the Broncos out of FG range in the 4th with 6 and a half mins left. McDaniels is fuming at him now.

    • Zack

      +98 (Odom and his 2 sacks :) )

      • Salty Buggah

        Im hoping the defense can hold on. Im skeptical because of the defense from last year but maybe we get lucky again. The D has played pretty well today and also has been lucky.