this has been a great game to watch. Glad AJ has win #100 locked up, Alex gets 30/100 and the yanks get win 103 while joba looked pretty good in his one inning of relief.
The lost story in this game will prolly be the fact that AJ Burnett had a good game after getting a little lost early at the plate
so we get 10 pitchers.
CC, Andy, AJ, Phil, Mo, Ace are locks.
Coke and Marte will be there because they are lefty.
That leaves K-rob, Bruney, Gaudin, Joba for 2 spots.
Ok So I’ve been a Yankee fan since 1968 and now I’m 52, Married and Living in Florida. Here is my QUESTION: My wife has gotten a job tha starts in two weeks in BOSTON !! Should I divorce her or move to Boston with her and be a yankee Spy lmao
I’m originally from NY but haven’t lived there since college. We moved to Somerville (3 miles N of Boston) back in February and love it here. Fans that actually reside in Boston are far more tolerable (and tolerant) than Red Sox Nation’s extended arm. I wear my Yanks hat everywhere, including Cask & Flagon for the Brad Penny death game, and have had no issues.
Rolling my eyes at the person that said @52 I shouldn’t LMAO . I even remember Black and White TV. I owned 8-track tapes and own a yankee seat from the OLD PARK before it was rebuilt in 1970′d. and Damn proud of it.
P.S. paid $15 buck for the seat and I believe its worth closet to 3,000 now
it’s actually my opinion that nobody should say lmao. I just hold 52-year-olds to higher standards of general conduct and worldliness, ya know, since they’re 52
1-Sabathia, CC
2-Pettitte, Andy
3-Burnett, A.J.
4-Chamberlain, Joba
5-Aceves, Alfredo
6-Coke, Phil
7-Marte, Dámaso
8-Robertson, David
9-Hughes, Phil
10-Rivera, Mariano
11-Posada, Jorge
12-Molina, José
13-Matsui, Hideki
14-Teixeira, Mark
15-Canó, Robinson
16-Jeter, Derek
17-Rodríguez, Álex
18-Hairston Jr., Jerry
19-Cabrera, Melky
20-Damon, Johnny
21-Gardner, Brett
22-Guzmán, Freddy
23-Hinske, Eric
24-Swisher, Nick
?25 Peña, Ramiro – don’t think we will need to rest anyone in 5 games
?25 Cervelli, Francisco – if Molina starts cause of A.J. and pinch hit for Molina and Posada gets hurt in that game. Then he’s your #25
?25 Gaudin, Chad – unless your going to need a 5th starter in the playoffs, he’s not needed you have Aceves for the long man
?25 Bruney, Brian – Unless Nick Swisher can’t give you a few inning in a 25-3 blowout or want to give the other team so hope, no need to have him on the play off roster.
Hinske, Eric won’t get an at bat or in a game as I see it. I just don’t think they will drop him from the playoff Roster.
Best 25 includes Peña, Ramiro and Cervelli, Francisco and no Hinske . It makes them more flexable when it comes to pinch running with Garder and Guzman
I want Hinske on the roster because of the chance one of A-Rod, Tex, Damon and Swisher could get hurt. He is the only one who could somewhat replace them.
Hinske can get an AB if it’s late and close and we have our defensive outfield in the game; Melky in left, Gardy in center and Swish in right. I think there is a good shot that Hinske will hit for Gardy if it is not a blowout.
i’ve been on the fence for a while, but i really do think that joba’s too tired to give you any real chance at a quality start. I’d prefer not to have to start chad gaudin, but he’s likely to be between joba and something better than joba, so he’s really the best 4th starter option we have, I think
Go Tigers , I alays perfer playing a team thats NOT HOT. The Twins are hot !!! any team that can win a big game with Carl Pavano pitching FOR THEM is to hot to play in a best of 5
Carl Pavano Carl Pavano Carl Pavano Carl Pavano Carl Pavano OMG Ace pitcher now I’m really rolling my eyes
if they start jackson that would mean they would have to go porcello to start game 1… no need to try and give yourself an auto loss there if you are detroit
how is that terrible logic? jackson hasn’t been good this past month, and porcello has been pretty good. Roll with the best you have left, which is porcello
Yeah, but they still have to get in. I think you gotta go with your best, even if Jackson has struggled of late. It’s the equivalent of leaving Mo on the bench in the 9th inning of a tie game.
i would say it’s pretty much set. if the tie breaker is on tuesday, i see no reason not to set the first post season game of the winner the next day. the winner of the tie breaker would have to fly to new york that night.
I hate that Games 1 and 2 will be at 6 pm est. Horrible start times for a weeknight game.
Since I ump every weeknight at 7:30 I will have to choose to either ump and miss the Yankee games or not. Obviously I will not miss the Yankees games, but when Fox and ESPN carried the division series games the Yankees would b play at 8 or maybe at 7 once in awhile but usually always at 8. Fucking TBS will be costing me around 70 bucks this week….
“ESPN’s so-called experts who picked the team to finish third, including Jim Caple, Jerry Crasnick, Orel Hershiser, Eric Karabell, Amy Nelson, Buster Olney, someone named Nate Ravitz, and Gene Wojciechowski.”
Outside of Olney, I’m not sure anyone listens to what any of them say. A few of them are fantasy people, one is an admitted Yankee hater (Caple), one from ESPN Boston (Nelson), one isn’t really a baseball guy (Wojo-whatever-his-name-is), and Crasnick and Orel. Meh. I’d only listen to the last two anyway for some modicum of objectivity and insight.
I give credit to Olney because he’s admitted many times that he had them finishing 3rd. you’re right, the other guys no one really cares about, but those are who picked against them in preseason- and we all know the whole bbtn crew had the same opinions in april, may, june.
Olney even picked the yankees to miss the playoffs this year. I havent watched espn baseball commentary since the beginning of the MLB network. How can I respect what jayson stark has to say when he writes a book claiming that derek jeter is one of the most overrated players in the history of baseball?
Looking at the likely rotation for the Tigers and Twins for the ALDS, its a no-brainer we should be rooting for the Twins and it really isnt even a tough choice.
The Tigers will have Jackson and Verlander for Games 1 and 2 on normal rest, while the Twins best pitcher Scott Baker wont be available til Game 3 and even Blackburn wont be available on normal rest til Game 2 although he could pitch Game 1 on 3 days rest and Pavano (!!!!) on normal rest for Game 2. BTW this is all assuming the Yankees choose the long series, although even the shorter one wouldnt change the Tigers rotation although it would allow the Twins to have Blackburn start Game 1 on regular rest.
Go yanks! i hope they get through to the ALCS and MLB will get the Sox/Yanks series it so desperately needs. Anyone else bothered by the fact that the Twins/Det tie/playoff isn’t even registering on ESPN, etc because of week 4 of the NFL?
I do think the Yanks will get by Det/Minn, but I also think CC will be bad. Big test will come in game 2 if the have to face Verlander down 1-0 and the bullpen in tatters. This is the scenario Cle and Milw faced the last two seasons.
Buchholz? With his 5.74 ERA 1.723 WHIP 0.89 SO/BB 15.2 IP career against the Yankees? Matsuzaka? With his 5.49 ERA 1.561 WHIP 1.27 SO/BB 41.0 IP career against the Yankees?
Their #4 starter has really been lights out against the Yankees.
So tell me who the NYY #4 starter is? Please make the case for him. Joba has been shut down due to collossal mismanagement of his season. He’s not going to be able to go more than a few innings. That leaves Brian Bruney. Again, this is amazing for a team with a payroll like the NYY and no injuries to their rotation other than the season-long issues with Wang.
So you think Joba is the #4? Really? OK, I hope you are right, as the guy will have gone 2 months between full starts by then. Maybe the Sox should start Manny Delcarmen. I’d come up with a better comp, but there is nobody in the sox pen as bad as Joba.
Gaudin? I stand corrected. That’s a much better option for a #4 for a team with a $230 million payroll and no injuries. Maybe the Sox will use use Paul Byrd to make it fair
not to mention season ending injuries to CMW and Xavier Nady, and minor injuries/ineffectiveness in the bullpen that forced 4th/5th starter candidate Phil Hughes out of the starting picture.
Nady was going to be in the rotation? Hughes should have been in the rotation, I’ll give you that, but after Wang went down the NYY managmeent didn’t adjust. They stuck with Joba on the theory that they could manage his innings and have him cranked up to start in Oct, but that simply didn’t work out and the other options are career journeymen. It’s understandable for a team like Minn or Cle, but weak as hell for a team with their resources.
I said “full start”. You are the one exaggerating. You know full well what I’m talking about. He’s going to the pen in the ALDS (if he makes the team at all — I’d send him to Tampa to stretch him out if I was NYY). He will not be in any shape to start in the ALCS
Let’s just see how Gaudin has stacked up career against Boston. 2.64 ERA 1.467 WHIP 30.2 IP. Gaudin has been better against Boston then either of the two starters you mentioned have been against New York.
One of our potential number 4 starters has been better then both of their potential number 4 starters.
Not really. Right now, Joba and very similar in terms of being guys who haven’t quite put it all together yet. In that matchup i’d have a little more faith in buccholz b/c he’s thrown this many innings before so he’s less likely to just be too tired to put together another good start.
Gaudin and Dice-K are also surprisingly similar in terms of results. Gaudin can get through 4-5 innings pretty reliably, but tends to fall apart after that b/c the opposing hitters catch up. Matsuzaka can get through 4-5 innings pretty reliably, but tends to fall apart after that b/c of an insanely high pitch count. Different methods, same madness.
In the end a potential yanks/sox 4th starter battle will be a battle of the bullpens and offenses. I’ll take the yanks on both accounts
You do know that Dice K won 18 games last year and finished 3rd in the Cy Young then won the MVP (again) of the WBC before injuring himeself and being shut down to get ready for Sept/Oct, right? He’s come back better then ever. You should be terrified of Dice K, NY. He’s rested and pitching really well. Sox had the rotation depth, and quality management, to rest guys all summer to get ready for Oct while NYY have their starters on fumes.
Drew, you don’t want to argue #4 between Boston and NYY, trust me. Dice K has an ERA under 2 since coming back and Buchholz is the best pitcher on the staff (other than Lester) since being called up. Yes, Buchholz has struggled his last 2 starts, but the whole Yankee staff has struggled at the end, other than Burnett — who even the NYY management is afraid of. Your manager all but said they don’t trust him in Oct the other day. Bruney as a #4 is embarassing for a team with a $230 million payroll and no injuries since June.
One start for each pitcher before the playoffs is a great sample size to use when evaluating your postseason rotation. Also, since when have the yankees had a 230 million dollar payroll?
So the Yankees signed BUrnett to be a #3 in the post-season? So Pettitte has had the kind of year that would make him a good #2 on a 100-win team? Nope. They don’t trust Burnett and putting him in the #3 spot is a blatant admission of that. I stand corrected, the Yankees’ payroll is just $211 million
Oops. Game 2 is Thurdsday, but still. We all know what’s up. The aged and eroding Pettitte will start Game 2 so that there is no risk of Burnett getting 2 starts in the first round.
Yeah, he looked shitty, but whatever. Games like this are bound to happen. Better it happens early in the season when he can adjust to the mistakes and coverages as the weeks pass.
interesting that porcello’s velocity was like that. I came to my realization in the earlier statement from one game i watched earlier in the season where he had 2 or so innings of 95, 96, 97 so i just kept that assumption.
First spillover we’ve had in a while.
a marathon of entourage would only take like 5-6 hours since it only gets like a dozen shows a season.
I’ve never been able to get into Entourage. None of the characters are likable.
When you get to Coney’s age, that is a marathon.
didnt say it wasnt…someone said like 10 in the original thread was all i was commenting on.
So next year does Girardi wear #28 or does he stick with the lucky 27?
damn, reply fail.
this has been a great game to watch. Glad AJ has win #100 locked up, Alex gets 30/100 and the yanks get win 103 while joba looked pretty good in his one inning of relief.
The lost story in this game will prolly be the fact that AJ Burnett had a good game after getting a little lost early at the plate
Awesome show…till this season. Its been straight garbage.
I don’t like the E story lines. He bores me.
i love the E story. More Sloan time for the masses
so we get 10 pitchers.
CC, Andy, AJ, Phil, Mo, Ace are locks.
Coke and Marte will be there because they are lefty.
That leaves K-rob, Bruney, Gaudin, Joba for 2 spots.
I got K-Rob and Joba.
Ravens better do something here
Orlando Cabrera scares me a little bit….it seems like every playoff team he’s on wins the WS.
He’s been on 6 teams, and only the Red Sox have won with him on their roster in 2004*
We have Eric Hinske though… went to the WS with the Rays and Red Sox, so we’re next!
Girardi needs a K-cup of coffee. Who but?!
baltimore down to the 20.
I’ve figured it out. Phil Hughes wants to become the WB Mason guy. This is why he grows out that weird thing above his lip.
/Super Sleuth
Is Freddy Guzman on the playoff roster?
I’d expect him to be.
Most likely, and as a pinch runner only.
Do-or-die time for the Ravens.
Die it is.
and they die
Chances we see Joba out of the pen in a big spot in the ALDS?
im going with 80% after today
I’m hoping their will be no big spots for the pen as we win the series on three blowouts.
great season for the yanks’ offense
now mariano can close out the pitching side
103 games. I predicted that total about a month ago!
Great Season!!!
great way to end the regular season
win division: check
win home field advantage: check
win a playoff series for the first time since 2004: let’s get that done too
Awesome season!!! Great win for Posada. Now the REAL season can begin.
#100 for Burnett!
NICE NICE season. Let’s match it in the playoffs!!!
On A-Rod’s hitting today, and the rest of the season. Mo: God (read: Mariano Rivera) is there.
Only the Lord can refer to himself in the third person.
Thanks for a great season to team and thanks to Ben, Mike and Joe for a great season on this blog!!!
+3 to that. Great job by Ben, Mike and Joe. Unquestionably the best Yankee blog out there.
+27
Jets not doing so hot. 10-0 Saints.
damn it sanchez, we didn’t need that there
Something we’ll need to get used to…at least for a while.
That recap vid YES just did was pretty damn sick.
Made me cry. Awesome awesome season
Ya I enjoyed it…I hope they put it up on their website.
Marion the Barberian!!!
For a dude named Pierre, that was pretty sick.
not as good as the stand that followed.
4th and 1 and no points to show for it? Epic fail
Spoke a bit soon I suppose.
This is the game Sanchez was bound to have. And I don’t mean that in a snide way…it was just inevitable.
Plus: The Saints are just a very good team.
Ok So I’ve been a Yankee fan since 1968 and now I’m 52, Married and Living in Florida. Here is my QUESTION: My wife has gotten a job tha starts in two weeks in BOSTON !! Should I divorce her or move to Boston with her and be a yankee Spy lmao
i think, being that you are 52, you should not say lmao. And i mean that in the kindest, most constructive way
I’m sorry, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a 52-yr-old saying “lmao.”
It all depends if Bo and Lanny will move out there with you…
I’m originally from NY but haven’t lived there since college. We moved to Somerville (3 miles N of Boston) back in February and love it here. Fans that actually reside in Boston are far more tolerable (and tolerant) than Red Sox Nation’s extended arm. I wear my Yanks hat everywhere, including Cask & Flagon for the Brad Penny death game, and have had no issues.
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9-run-lead with 3 outs to go, I think it’s safe to say:
We will have baseball on Tuesday.
why wouldn’t it be monday?
MNF in the dome
i see
There’s also a reply button, which you didn’t see.
Joba is where he belongs. Pen
Oaktag.
Rolling my eyes at the person that said @52 I shouldn’t LMAO . I even remember Black and White TV. I owned 8-track tapes and own a yankee seat from the OLD PARK before it was rebuilt in 1970′d. and Damn proud of it.
P.S. paid $15 buck for the seat and I believe its worth closet to 3,000 now
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it’s actually my opinion that nobody should say lmao. I just hold 52-year-olds to higher standards of general conduct and worldliness, ya know, since they’re 52
ROTFLMAO Worldliness , Hummmmm I was born on Long Island, My worldliness ended at the Comack Motor INN hehe
This might be the best comment ever.
Playoff Roster
1-Sabathia, CC
2-Pettitte, Andy
3-Burnett, A.J.
4-Chamberlain, Joba
5-Aceves, Alfredo
6-Coke, Phil
7-Marte, Dámaso
8-Robertson, David
9-Hughes, Phil
10-Rivera, Mariano
11-Posada, Jorge
12-Molina, José
13-Matsui, Hideki
14-Teixeira, Mark
15-Canó, Robinson
16-Jeter, Derek
17-Rodríguez, Álex
18-Hairston Jr., Jerry
19-Cabrera, Melky
20-Damon, Johnny
21-Gardner, Brett
22-Guzmán, Freddy
23-Hinske, Eric
24-Swisher, Nick
?25 Peña, Ramiro – don’t think we will need to rest anyone in 5 games
?25 Cervelli, Francisco – if Molina starts cause of A.J. and pinch hit for Molina and Posada gets hurt in that game. Then he’s your #25
?25 Gaudin, Chad – unless your going to need a 5th starter in the playoffs, he’s not needed you have Aceves for the long man
?25 Bruney, Brian – Unless Nick Swisher can’t give you a few inning in a 25-3 blowout or want to give the other team so hope, no need to have him on the play off roster.
Hinske, Eric won’t get an at bat or in a game as I see it. I just don’t think they will drop him from the playoff Roster.
Best 25 includes Peña, Ramiro and Cervelli, Francisco and no Hinske . It makes them more flexable when it comes to pinch running with Garder and Guzman
I want Hinske on the roster because of the chance one of A-Rod, Tex, Damon and Swisher could get hurt. He is the only one who could somewhat replace them.
Hinske can get an AB if it’s late and close and we have our defensive outfield in the game; Melky in left, Gardy in center and Swish in right. I think there is a good shot that Hinske will hit for Gardy if it is not a blowout.
Man, that is a beastly team right there.
Though I’d still prefer Gaudin to start over Joba in the ALCS.
i’ve been on the fence for a while, but i really do think that joba’s too tired to give you any real chance at a quality start. I’d prefer not to have to start chad gaudin, but he’s likely to be between joba and something better than joba, so he’s really the best 4th starter option we have, I think
No Marte, and bring Pena and Gaudin or Cervelli…also why the fuck is Freddi Guzman there?
Who is going for the Twins/Tigers on Tuesday?
Go Tigers , I alays perfer playing a team thats NOT HOT. The Twins are hot !!! any team that can win a big game with Carl Pavano pitching FOR THEM is to hot to play in a best of 5
Carl Pavano Carl Pavano Carl Pavano Carl Pavano Carl Pavano OMG Ace pitcher now I’m really rolling my eyes
i believe its porcello for the tigers…not sure about the twins
Should be Baker for the Twins. I had assumed Detroit would throw Jackson.
I’d be shocked if it wasn’t Jackson. He’ll be on his regular rest on Tuesday.
if they start jackson that would mean they would have to go porcello to start game 1… no need to try and give yourself an auto loss there if you are detroit
That’s some terrible logic.
how is that terrible logic? jackson hasn’t been good this past month, and porcello has been pretty good. Roll with the best you have left, which is porcello
Yeah, but they still have to get in. I think you gotta go with your best, even if Jackson has struggled of late. It’s the equivalent of leaving Mo on the bench in the 9th inning of a tie game.
Whoa whoa whoa, slow down there chief rocka. The dropoff b/w Jackson:Porcello is nowhere near the dropoff b/w Mo:Human.
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No way. That situation is like deciding between Bruney and Robertson in a tie game in the 9th inning because Mo (Verander) is unavailable.
Which guy is Bruney in this instance?
I would guess Bruney because he is the veteran. Plus, he can be sensationell when he is on, but if he is not, it gets ugly.
Bruney = Jackson. Great stuff, very inconsistent.
OK, forget I said Mo, but the point still stands that you go with your best available, which is not Porcello.
Nevermind, Jackson would not be on full rest.
rick porcello vs. scott baker, just checked twins website
Color me shocked.
Yeah. Jackson has not been effective in the 2nd half but assigned game 163 to a kid who can’t legally get drunk if he loses is risky.
Jackson would be on 3 days rest, not full.
You’re right, now that I looked. Guess the whole argument is moot.
Tex kept referring to being ready on Wed in post game interview, does that seal it for everyone that they are picking the “A” series ?
i would say it’s pretty much set. if the tie breaker is on tuesday, i see no reason not to set the first post season game of the winner the next day. the winner of the tie breaker would have to fly to new york that night.
I think Teix would say he’ll be ready for Wednesday whether or not he knew what schedule we choose.
Another stop on 4th and short for the Jets. With about 3 minutes left in the 3rd, the Jets D has held the Saints to 3 points, in New Orleans. Legit.
Offense today? Illegit. Quit.
un, not il. but props for the greatest movie ever reference
I hate that Games 1 and 2 will be at 6 pm est. Horrible start times for a weeknight game.
Since I ump every weeknight at 7:30 I will have to choose to either ump and miss the Yankee games or not. Obviously I will not miss the Yankees games, but when Fox and ESPN carried the division series games the Yankees would b play at 8 or maybe at 7 once in awhile but usually always at 8. Fucking TBS will be costing me around 70 bucks this week….
damn i’m in san diego on business. here it will start at 3:00. i probably won’t be able to watch til the very end, if at all.
Is Game 2 officially a 6 PM start time? Haven’t seen that anywhere.
MLB.com only has Game 1 listed as a 6:07 start. Game 2 is TBD.
Whew, stopped them on 4th-and-1 in field goal range. Could we please have some sort of drive, Mr Romo, like with first downs?
Got too greedy, I guess. At least we got 1:18 off the clock.
“Everyone expected the Yankees to make the playoffs”
-Steve Phillips
…Except for most of the people at ESPN, right Steve?
“Everyone expected me to say something stupid, but I didn’t! Yay!” -Steve Phillips’ brain after every stupid thing he says
“ESPN’s so-called experts who picked the team to finish third, including Jim Caple, Jerry Crasnick, Orel Hershiser, Eric Karabell, Amy Nelson, Buster Olney, someone named Nate Ravitz, and Gene Wojciechowski.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....mlb,192672
Outside of Olney, I’m not sure anyone listens to what any of them say. A few of them are fantasy people, one is an admitted Yankee hater (Caple), one from ESPN Boston (Nelson), one isn’t really a baseball guy (Wojo-whatever-his-name-is), and Crasnick and Orel. Meh. I’d only listen to the last two anyway for some modicum of objectivity and insight.
I give credit to Olney because he’s admitted many times that he had them finishing 3rd. you’re right, the other guys no one really cares about, but those are who picked against them in preseason- and we all know the whole bbtn crew had the same opinions in april, may, june.
Olney even picked the yankees to miss the playoffs this year. I havent watched espn baseball commentary since the beginning of the MLB network. How can I respect what jayson stark has to say when he writes a book claiming that derek jeter is one of the most overrated players in the history of baseball?
Looking at the likely rotation for the Tigers and Twins for the ALDS, its a no-brainer we should be rooting for the Twins and it really isnt even a tough choice.
The Tigers will have Jackson and Verlander for Games 1 and 2 on normal rest, while the Twins best pitcher Scott Baker wont be available til Game 3 and even Blackburn wont be available on normal rest til Game 2 although he could pitch Game 1 on 3 days rest and Pavano (!!!!) on normal rest for Game 2. BTW this is all assuming the Yankees choose the long series, although even the shorter one wouldnt change the Tigers rotation although it would allow the Twins to have Blackburn start Game 1 on regular rest.
Go yanks! i hope they get through to the ALCS and MLB will get the Sox/Yanks series it so desperately needs. Anyone else bothered by the fact that the Twins/Det tie/playoff isn’t even registering on ESPN, etc because of week 4 of the NFL?
I do think the Yanks will get by Det/Minn, but I also think CC will be bad. Big test will come in game 2 if the have to face Verlander down 1-0 and the bullpen in tatters. This is the scenario Cle and Milw faced the last two seasons.
Sox in 6. Yanks lack of a #4 will kill them
Sox? Their 4 starter is…?
Dice K or Buchholz. Both have their ? but neither has been shut down!
Seriously? They’re both aces. One throws a boomerang called a “Gyroball” and the other throws stolen electronics.
Aces, motherfucker. Aces.
We’re talking about #4 starters. Both have pitched like aces, but neither are looked at as aces.
Loss. (See below.)
Dice K is the greatest import since Kobe beef.
Win. (See above.)
Buchholz? With his 5.74 ERA 1.723 WHIP 0.89 SO/BB 15.2 IP career against the Yankees? Matsuzaka? With his 5.49 ERA 1.561 WHIP 1.27 SO/BB 41.0 IP career against the Yankees?
Their #4 starter has really been lights out against the Yankees.
So tell me who the NYY #4 starter is? Please make the case for him. Joba has been shut down due to collossal mismanagement of his season. He’s not going to be able to go more than a few innings. That leaves Brian Bruney. Again, this is amazing for a team with a payroll like the NYY and no injuries to their rotation other than the season-long issues with Wang.
Dude. You cannot be serious. The fourth starter is Joba or Gaudin. Joba has not been shutdown, he pitched a few hours ago.
So you think Joba is the #4? Really? OK, I hope you are right, as the guy will have gone 2 months between full starts by then. Maybe the Sox should start Manny Delcarmen. I’d come up with a better comp, but there is nobody in the sox pen as bad as Joba.
Gaudin? I stand corrected. That’s a much better option for a #4 for a team with a $230 million payroll and no injuries. Maybe the Sox will use use Paul Byrd to make it fair
Hey chief. Didn’t Joba just pitch against the Sox? Was that not a “full start?”
Also, our payroll is not 230 mil.
$201,449,189 rounds up to $230 million. That is basic math.
not to mention season ending injuries to CMW and Xavier Nady, and minor injuries/ineffectiveness in the bullpen that forced 4th/5th starter candidate Phil Hughes out of the starting picture.
Nady was going to be in the rotation? Hughes should have been in the rotation, I’ll give you that, but after Wang went down the NYY managmeent didn’t adjust. They stuck with Joba on the theory that they could manage his innings and have him cranked up to start in Oct, but that simply didn’t work out and the other options are career journeymen. It’s understandable for a team like Minn or Cle, but weak as hell for a team with their resources.
Two full months between starts? He just started on Wednesday. The playoffs don’t last until December.
Exaggeration will not help your argument one bit. In fact, it’ll do the complete opposite.
I said “full start”. You are the one exaggerating. You know full well what I’m talking about. He’s going to the pen in the ALDS (if he makes the team at all — I’d send him to Tampa to stretch him out if I was NYY). He will not be in any shape to start in the ALCS
Uh oh! Somebody forgot their crazy pills!
They see me trollin’, they hatin’…
The fact that you do not know the difference between Brian Bruney and Joba (or Gaudin) is fucking hilarious.
what have I posted that makes you think I don’t know the difference between them? Tell me again why Gaudin is better than Buchholtz?
You referred to Bruney as a starting pitcher.
He’s not.
He’s strictly a reliever.
Who is this Buchholtz character you speak of?
lol
I just hope Chambalin and Sarbathia pitch well.
Let’s just see how Gaudin has stacked up career against Boston. 2.64 ERA 1.467 WHIP 30.2 IP. Gaudin has been better against Boston then either of the two starters you mentioned have been against New York.
One of our potential number 4 starters has been better then both of their potential number 4 starters.
Jose, this is idiotic and you (I hope) know it. Too funny.
Not really. Right now, Joba and very similar in terms of being guys who haven’t quite put it all together yet. In that matchup i’d have a little more faith in buccholz b/c he’s thrown this many innings before so he’s less likely to just be too tired to put together another good start.
Gaudin and Dice-K are also surprisingly similar in terms of results. Gaudin can get through 4-5 innings pretty reliably, but tends to fall apart after that b/c the opposing hitters catch up. Matsuzaka can get through 4-5 innings pretty reliably, but tends to fall apart after that b/c of an insanely high pitch count. Different methods, same madness.
In the end a potential yanks/sox 4th starter battle will be a battle of the bullpens and offenses. I’ll take the yanks on both accounts
You do know that Dice K won 18 games last year and finished 3rd in the Cy Young then won the MVP (again) of the WBC before injuring himeself and being shut down to get ready for Sept/Oct, right? He’s come back better then ever. You should be terrified of Dice K, NY. He’s rested and pitching really well. Sox had the rotation depth, and quality management, to rest guys all summer to get ready for Oct while NYY have their starters on fumes.
Trolls are so pathetic…
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Buchholz has given up 12 runs in his last 8 innings. Today he shat the bed vs the Indians. He is their #3.
The idea that our #4 will “kill” us is crazy.
You can’t spell “unreasonable” without “reasonable”.
Drew, you don’t want to argue #4 between Boston and NYY, trust me. Dice K has an ERA under 2 since coming back and Buchholz is the best pitcher on the staff (other than Lester) since being called up. Yes, Buchholz has struggled his last 2 starts, but the whole Yankee staff has struggled at the end, other than Burnett — who even the NYY management is afraid of. Your manager all but said they don’t trust him in Oct the other day. Bruney as a #4 is embarassing for a team with a $230 million payroll and no injuries since June.
“Bruney as a #4 is embarassing for a team with a $230 million payroll and no injuries since June.”
None of that makes sense
One start for each pitcher before the playoffs is a great sample size to use when evaluating your postseason rotation. Also, since when have the yankees had a 230 million dollar payroll?
(This comment is not pointed towards zack, its towards “lucky”)
Girardi “all but said” he doesn’t trust AJ? Facts are fun when you make them up. Also, Bruney? What?
Bruney is a better #4 than Okajima.
So the Yankees signed BUrnett to be a #3 in the post-season? So Pettitte has had the kind of year that would make him a good #2 on a 100-win team? Nope. They don’t trust Burnett and putting him in the #3 spot is a blatant admission of that. I stand corrected, the Yankees’ payroll is just $211 million
This might be the most unintentionally hilarious thread in RAB history.
When did the Yankees put Burnett in the #3 spot? I’m fairly certain they haven’t announced anything yet, nor have they played the games.
So they are going to bring BUrnett back on short rest to start on Wednesday? Come on
Oops. Game 2 is Thurdsday, but still. We all know what’s up. The aged and eroding Pettitte will start Game 2 so that there is no risk of Burnett getting 2 starts in the first round.
Game 1 is Wednesday, Game 2 is Friday. He can start Game 2 on regular rest.
Nice try though. Don’t let silly little things like facts ruin a perfectly good rant.
Whatever. Burnett is not going to start game 2. You know it. I know it. I read it on this site.
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....iew-17834/
are you the reincarnation of one alex gonzalez?
DING DING DING!!
false
sorry. I think you can see why one might think so. He’s bringin’ the heat a la one “alex gonzalez.”
BRIAN BRUNEY IS A STARTING PITCHA?
1. You think CC will be bad. That’s great and you’ve made a very compelling argument for why that would be so.
2. No, the bullpen would not be in tatters. Girardi’s a lot smarter than to blow the bullpen should Game 1 not be a success for the starting pitcher.
3. ‘Go Yanks’ to ‘Sox in 6′ in 2.1 paragraphs? Impressive!
man sanchez looked like garbage today
i wish this game would happen later in the season if they could wrap up the division, but ugh
this game left a really bad taste in my mouth
Yeah, he looked shitty, but whatever. Games like this are bound to happen. Better it happens early in the season when he can adjust to the mistakes and coverages as the weeks pass.
Mike–Mark Sanchez got you -0.08 points in fantasy today. Ouch.
brandon marshall > cowboys secondary
Salty, you kissing McDaniels’ rings yet?
lol he hasn’t been around today.
Looks like there might be a little trouble with that last reception.
Does Kyle Orton really have highlights in his hair? Wow.
Tigers rotation for the playoffs?
So if Porcello pitches on Tuesday, will it be Jackson in Game 1, Verlander in 2 then Porcello?
it’s so odd that all three of those guys throw 96+
that’s a lot of heat to face 3 straight games, then you add in 99mph throwing fernando rodney
Porcello doesn’t really.
http://www.fangraphs.com/pitch.....8;pitch=FA
Every now and again, he has a game where he throws a FB or two that’s over 95. Most of the time, he sits low 90s with his 4-seamer.
interesting that porcello’s velocity was like that. I came to my realization in the earlier statement from one game i watched earlier in the season where he had 2 or so innings of 95, 96, 97 so i just kept that assumption.
thanks for the chart
Of course, Rodney frequently fails to predict where those 99 mph heaters are going.