Jul
20

Game 92: Oh no, a rookie pitcher

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Hopefully we see a similar pose from O'Sullivan tonight. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)

Ah yes, the bane of the Yankees’ existence, the rookie pitcher. Scott Kazmir was supposed to start tonight’s game, but he hit had to hit the disabled list with a case of the sucks shoulder issue, so the Yankees will instead face 22-year-old righty Sean O’Sullivan. He’s a rather generic righty, with a miniscule strikeout rate (4.8 K/9 in MLB, 6.6 in MiLB) and an okay amount of grounders (37.5%) . Everything looks good for the Yanks, but then again who knows with a pitcher they’ve never seen before.

It’s too bad the Angels didn’t throw Trevor Bell tonight (who was also in consideration for the start), we coulda mentioned that he’s the grandson of Bozo The Clown. For shame. Here’s the starting nine…

Jeter, SS
Swisher, RF
Teixeira, 1B
A-Rod, 3B
Cano, 2B
Posada, C
Granderson, CF
Miranda, DH
Gardner, LF

Hughes, SP

You have to believe it took minutes off Joe Girardi‘s life when he pencil three consecutive lefties into the bottom of the lineup. Game time is 7:05pm ET, and this one can be seen on My9. Enjoy.

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734 Comments»

  1. Rivera Venue Blues says:

    Girardi has actually requested that Curtis finally showcase his switch-hitting ability to help out the team.

  2. Carlosologist says:

    According to my TV guide, tonight’s game is on My9.

  3. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Any thoughts on ESPN connecting Joe Girardi to the soon-to-be vacant Cubs managerial position?

    • Carlosologist says:

      IMO, I don’t think Joe would go from a perennial World Series candidate to a team that’s stuck with two huge albatross contracts.

    • Tom Zig says:

      Why would you go from the most prestigious and most likely to be higher paid job (where you have the vote of confidence from the GM and owner) to a less prestigious job with likely lower pay?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      I can’t speak for Joe, but I can’t imagine why he’d want to go there. The Cubs are going to get a whole lot worse before they get better, and it’s not like he has a bad thing going on in NY.

      If he wants to leave to be closer to home, fine. But for baseball reasons, I just can’t see it.

    • Reporters are bored.

  4. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    It’s ESPN, that’s my thought.

  5. Carlosologist says:

    Oh my God, Sean O’Sullivan has an epic douche beard. I want Jeter to smack one right back up the middle and take that fuzz with him.

  6. Cecala says:

    Why is this person writing for ESPN NY?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=5395555

    • Carlosologist says:

      Why is this person writing for ESPN NY?

      FTFY.

    • bexarama says:

      How about the sight of barely known Oakland pitcher Dallas Braden shouting at A-Rod to stay off his pitching mound when A-Rod jogged across it after an out earlier this year? Could you see a pitcher ever doing that to a legend such as Mays or Aaron, unless it was someone with the stature of Bob Gibson?

      lolwut

      • Cecala says:

        I liked,

        whereas A-Rod has been only the third-best third baseman in his own division this season, behind Tampa Bay’s Evan Longoria and Boston’s Adrian Beltre.

        Who would pick 20 errors/can only hit a HR if he falls to his knees over A-Rod?

        • bexarama says:

          Don’t you know a damn-near-career-year-if-not-for-2004 for Beltre and a very down year for A-Rod by A-Rod standards now means Beltre is better. Because he’s a Red Sox. Get with it!!!

    • Ivan says:

      Thats one one of those “Im going to irrationally slam A-rod for no reason” articles. And she thinks she is so slick, by bring in Cano to cover up her main agenda. Fucking asshole.

    • Tom Zig says:

      a) she has two first names
      b) her name is fucking Johnette. Her life sucks

  7. Over/Under: 10.5 curveballs and 2.5 changeups from Phil tonight.

  8. Accent Shallow says:

    Even last year’s ALCS isn’t enough to exorcise my negative feelings towards the Angels.

  9. Mike HC says:

    Jeter looking nice and spry there!

  10. Accent Shallow says:

    That swing and miss from Kendrick should have been strike 3.

  11. Mike HC says:

    And everyone holds their collective breath

  12. Carlosologist says:

    Tell me I wasn’t the only who got scared a little bit there.

  13. Poopy Pants says:

    “Hey Phil! You make a better door than a window!”

    - Angels

  14. Bobby Abreu is this generation’s Ken Singleton.

  15. Accent Shallow says:

    Another fastball to Abreu? Curve?

    It’s not gonna be a change . . .

  16. Accent Shallow says:

    I’ll take three groundouts on 13 pitches.

  17. Scott Kazmir just looked so sad.

  18. Mike Axisa says:

    Oh shit, Carl Crawford got hurt…

  19. Mike HC says:

    Talk about looking like a reliever.

    This guy has bull in a china shop written all over him.

  20. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    Well, at least it wasn’t an easy grounder.

  21. baby carlos says:

    Jeter is cursed. Won’t take pitches and can’t the ones he hits well to fall in… Damn.

  22. Ivan says:

    Whats the point of complaining, when Jeter swings at the 1st pitch.

  23. Nick Swisher can divide by zero.

  24. All Star Carl says:

    Swish baby!

  25. Mike Axisa says:

    Fuckin’ Swish man.

  26. Accent Shallow says:

    Hopefully this continues. Treat this scrub the way he deserves.

  27. Ivan says:

    Swish, all net baby!!!

  28. Hummingbird S. says:

    Swishaaaa!!

  29. Poopy Pants says:

    No pitch count on my9?? Bastards!!!

  30. Nickel says:

    Man…that left the park in a hurry. :-)

  31. Carlosologist says:

    Swish was like, “I don’t give a shit if he’s a rookie, I’ll still take him out.”

  32. Mike HC says:

    This will only make him more overrated obviously. Anybody can homer off a shitty pitcher to the short porch.

  33. Ross in Jersey says:

    Nick Swisher is unimpressed by your reliever looks and irish last name.

  34. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Take that douchebeard!

  35. Nickel says:

    Well, two hard-hit balls. One just happened to be at someone.

  36. Mike Axisa says:

    Nick Swisher is not impressed by O’Sullivan’s goatee.

  37. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    I’m gonna go all-in and say that A-Rod’s hitting 599 and 600 tonight. Why not.

  38. Don’t make me a liar, Alex!

  39. Poopy Pants says:

    Facialhair McGillicutty got served by Swish.

  40. Carlosologist says:

    Watch, he goes away after two inside pitches and A-Rod hits it.

  41. ZZ says:

    Jeter’s BABIP is .303 on the 1st pitch this year.

    In his career his BABIP on the first pitch is .361

    In the first inning his BABIP is .313.

    For his career in the first inning it is .362.

    Not sure what to make of this as it is still a small sample and I haven’t really thought about it much, but I think it is interesting.

  42. Alex S says:

    woah big slide by A rod….I like it

  43. Mike Axisa says:

    This game might turn into a laugher real quick. O’Sullivan’s fooling no one.

  44. Nickel says:

    This pitcher’s gonna be taking a shower in less than an hour. I just have that feeling.

  45. Ivan says:

    Nice hitting A-Rod.

  46. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    Showing Robbie some respect, me likey.

  47. Ross in Jersey says:

    Liner to right field, even Bobby’s arm can’t hold Alex to a single. Don’t care if it’s a shitty pitcher, that’s the best Alex has looked at the plate and on the bases in a long while.

  48. bexarama says:

    Cano getting IBBed in the FIRST INNING.

    #fearedcano

  49. Carlosologist says:

    Cano is dangerous apparently. 8 IBBs on the season!

  50. Ross in Jersey says:

    Also, fuck the heck at an IBB with one out in the 1st inning?

  51. baby carlos says:

    Have to say that as much as I love the Yankees, I wish they had Vin Scully doing the play by play on TV. Listened to him last night and did not waste time filling the air with pointless bull shit, like Singleton/Kay everytime Javy pitches and they dig of 2004….Should be requirement for announcers to follow his format.

  52. mike c says:

    the yankee lineup is a beautiful thing… the leadoff 9 hitter is key. i can only imagine if NJ was the true DH what this team would be like. miranda has the potential for sure, with the reps he can be a very exciting hitter

  53. Swing at nothing below your waist, Jorge. No grounders!

  54. Ivan says:

    iight lets blow this mothafucker open.

  55. baby carlos says:

    O’Sullivan = Joe Blanton huge.

  56. Carlosologist says:

    Damn, this is a Pelfreyesque outing. 18 pitches to record an out.

  57. Carlosologist says:

    LOL O’Sullivan. Somebody needs to be DFAed!

  58. Mike HC says:

    Alright. Gotta take what you can get

  59. Alright a run’s a run.

    Come on, Curtis. Base hit, buddy!

  60. mike c says:

    did any team make worse offseason moves than the angels? this team is hardly what it was last year, no disrespect to matsui

    • bexarama says:

      I thought getting rid of Lackey would have been the move that looked terrible in hindsight, whereas not resigning Vlad wouldn’t have affected them that much. Oops.

  61. Mike Axisa says:

    Heh, you can hear the creatures serenading Bobby.

  62. baby carlos says:

    granderson with a double

  63. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Dear Curtis, I can has hot streak?

    Thank you,

    My fantasy team

  64. Accent Shallow says:

    Granderson must be kicking himself for taking that curve earlier in the count.

  65. Curtis is bumming me out.

  66. Alex S says:

    man C-Grand has been really disappointing

  67. ZZ says:

    Swisher is hitting line drive HRs now.

    It is amazing the transformation he has made this season.

    He is just an incredibly better hitter.

  68. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Granderson, you let this scrub strike you out? I’m disappointed!

  69. Ross in Jersey says:

    Throwing nothing but the change and Grandy whiffs at it anyway. sigh! Trying to defend you buddy, help me out here!

  70. Ivan says:

    Am I the only person who dissapointed they got only 2 runs there.

  71. Carlosologist says:

    Grandy couldn’t get it done. I feel like he’ll continue this season with some rebound in September, but will breakout in a big way next season a la Swisher this season.

  72. Hummingbird S. says:

    2 runs, great start.

  73. Carlosologist says:

    For the poll I’d say Pudge.

  74. Poopy Pants says:

    I’m sure these poll voting results will be impartial.

  75. Wow. There is no way that should be a strike.

  76. Ross in Jersey says:

    This dude has a really odd strike zone. He’s not giving the corners, but gives the occasional high strike?

  77. Accent Shallow says:

    Hughes couldn’t buy a strike there. Oy.

  78. Mike Axisa says:

    Matsui’s slugging under .400.

  79. Cy Farnsworth says:

    I don’t care that he’s washed up, I still love Matsui.

  80. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    We love you Matsui! Now please ground into a double-play.

  81. GermanYankee says:

    damn, f’in MLB.tv isn’t f’in working. Again. Business as usual I guess, I’ve missed the bottom 1st :(

  82. Riddle says:

    Via ESPN fantasy update: “(Carl) Crawford left in the first inning of Tuesday’s game after taking a pickoff throw to the groin, the Tampa Tribune reports.”

    OUCH

  83. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Angels Baseball! ™

  84. GermanYankee says:

    the Pirates lead the Brewers 9-0 after the 1st XD

  85. Carlosologist says:

    LOL Hunter’s a dumbass.

  86. Ross in Jersey says:

    ahahah Jeter with the deke!

  87. bexarama says:

    lol Torii, thanks

  88. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Hughes using the change, I like!

  89. Mike HC says:

    You don’t see that everyday.

  90. Poopy Pants says:

    LOL @ girl’s name Hunter!

  91. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    LOL Torii!
    Matsui’s face was priceless, too. “Back, back, BACK!!!” :|

  92. Vinny "The Bull" Scafuto says:

    Fundamentally sound. Kind of like the Twins last October.

  93. ZZ says:

    I don’t know what the hell has happened to Hunter this year, but he has lost any baseball sense that he had previously.

    It is like he is own vacation in his head.

  94. Sweet Dick Willie says:

    But the Angels are the most fundamental team in the league.

    /MSM’d

  95. Too many fastballs, Phil.

  96. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Wow, now Torii looks like even more of an ass.

    /Fallacy of predetermined outcome’d

  97. baby carlos says:

    Philly is not so sharp tonight. C’mon Phil.

  98. JSquared says:

    Montero will have what Swish is having.

  99. Ivan says:

    Come on Hughes, stop acting like AJ.

  100. whozat says:

    Hughes looking pretty bad tonight.

  101. Mike Axisa says:

    Well, you got your curveball…

  102. Mike HC says:

    Was not fooled by the curve there at all.

  103. Accent Shallow says:

    Have to put away Napoli, who can’t hit lefties. Izturis just sucks.

  104. Ivan says:

    Bad Hughes..Bad, bad, bad.

  105. baby carlos says:

    Phil,

    there is more to home plate than the center. Feel free to start working in the curve, change up, and especially working the corners.

    Don’t be afraid little grasshopper, you will be fine.

  106. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    A curveball outside, and he gets an rbi single through the middle? Really?

  107. Ivan says:

    Tight K-Zone uh.

  108. Ross in Jersey says:

    Man, hate to say it but he’s getting tattoo’d this inning. Only Matsui didn’t smash it…

  109. Shdw says:

    The umps calling a tight zone tonight…

  110. Accent Shallow says:

    At least he was able to retire that shitty hitter.

    Mathis has no business being in the majors.

  111. Ivan says:

    That’s all the Angels will have tonight..Promise.

  112. Zooboy says:

    Anyone else not getting audio feed from MLB? What gives?

  113. Carlosologist says:

    Has anybody noticed that Tex has been walking like Nick Johnson this season? 13% BB rate. That’s his highest mark since 2008.

    • bexarama says:

      I didn’t know that about the high BB% rate but it did seem like he was walking a lot, just watching the games.

      Oh wait, people who use terms like BB% rate don’t watch the games, I forgot.

  114. Ross in Jersey says:

    A ball! Jeter took a ball!

    /fanfare

  115. Mike Axisa says:

    I’ve got a tip: he’s going to throw a changeup.

  116. Cy Farnsworth says:

    That change is a nice pitch when he’s locating it.

  117. Alright Phil work out of it.

  118. She’s never really done it for me . . .

    http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/20/.....l-mugshot/

    . . but this changes everything.

  119. Ivan says:

    Come on Hughes.

  120. ZZ says:

    Hughes is not finishing his delivery when he throws the fastball.

    That’s why his fastball is leaking out over the plate against LH hitters but bearing in on RH hitters.

  121. baby carlos says:

    Hope Alby is ready for relief. Phil is out of sync.

  122. Sheepmeister says:

    This umps strike zone is microscopic for hughes and it opens up for osullivan.

    • baby carlos says:

      To some extent. But right now, Phil can’t throw strikes on the outer parts. Down the middle is a different story.

  123. Mike Axisa says:

    Cut this shit out Phil.

  124. swisher's fauxhawk says:

    Ugh, damn ump.

  125. Ivan says:

    Where was that 2-2 pitch?

  126. damn yanks says:

    he is getting squeezed too dont you agree?

  127. Cy Farnsworth says:

    I think that the Yanks need to bring in Jose Molina to get Hughes’ shit together.

  128. Ross in Jersey says:

    With this strikezone I can see a big time slugfest tonight…

  129. Ivan says:

    Triple play will be pretty good.

  130. lily-bk says:

    well isn’t this just great

  131. Ivan says:

    Now a double play.

  132. How was Cano closer to that than Jeter was?

  133. Mike Axisa says:

    Damn, that was a good pitch in a good spot. Got the grounder too.

  134. baby carlos says:

    Ok…. WTF

  135. Hummingbird S. says:

    Hughes looks like the rookie pitcher.. 6 hits in 2.1 innings.

  136. swisher's fauxhawk says:

    Love ya, Hideki.

  137. baby carlos says:

    See, we should have resigned Matsui. He is hitting .248 and just hit into a DP….. Bwaaaaahhhh

  138. lily-bk says:

    its amazing even with the angels banged up we still have problems with them

  139. ZZ says:

    Hughes is not finishing his delivery well.

    They said while Eiland was away Hughes was having some mechanical problems, and they seem to be hurting him in this start.

    The All Star Break layoff may have hurt him in this regard, because he got back to where is supposed to be right before the break.

    • I wonder if that mini-delay in his delivery, when he takes the ball out of his glove, is hurting him a bit.

    • bexarama says:

      Just wondering, how can you tell this? I’m honestly interested.

    • Jose the Satirist says:

      What are you specifically seeing that makes you say he isn’t finishing his delivery well?

      • ZZ says:

        He doesn’t seem to be completely following through with his arm.

        When he goes inside to LH hitters it seems to be leaking back over the plate because he is releasing the ball just a little too early. But in that same regard, when he goes inside vs RH hitters the ball is bearing in on them.

        He just isn’t get that full arm motion that gives him the downward plane and all the life on his fastball.

        His curveball is also not breaking as much because I don’t think he is fully following through.

    • Poopy Pants says:

      NO! Eiland gets NO credit for anything!

    • Mike HC says:

      And that is most likely due to fatigue.

  140. baby carlos says:

    If we can get 5IP and 2 runs from Phil, call it a good outing.

  141. Reggie C. says:

    So is this Sullivan kid any good? Never heard of him.

  142. Ross in Jersey says:

    The results weren’t there, but that wasn’t a bad inning. Bloop double down the line, 9 hopper through the infield.

    But ugh, all of a sudden this one trick pony is fooling us?

  143. Ivan says:

    If im a hitter (especially a lefty hitter) im sitting change up.

  144. claybeez says:

    Wasn’t there some talk from Eiland on YES a few weeks back about Hughes needing to stand taller? I believe it was something like when he drops his front leg too low his stuff flattens out. In the first, it appeared that he was getting more downward movement, but that’s pure novice observation.

  145. whozat says:

    I haven’t seen a single Yankee starter have decent command since the allstar break.

  146. cjc says:

    yeah so can we go back to the 1st inning

  147. Reggie C. says:

    That was too frigging easy.

  148. baby carlos says:

    26 pitches in the first inning…. Since, 22.

    Um offense, what the fuck? Is he throwing to hard, nasty, filthy shit? C’mon, wake up, Phil is struggling.

  149. Sheepmeister says:

    Is it just me or is the recurring theme this season with bad pitchers, make them pay and high pitch count in the first and then just give them gifts after that to keep them in the game till the 6th.

  150. Ross in Jersey says:

    Montero: 1/1 with a homer and walk so far tonight.

  151. whozat says:

    I enjoy the phrase “They boo him like he stole something”

  152. bexarama says:

    Wow, this thread got super cheery.

  153. Carlosologist says:

    Answer: The Orioles. 51 career HR.

  154. whozat says:

    zone a bit tight tonight?

  155. Shitty read. Oh well, at least it’s just a single.

  156. Mike Axisa says:

    Oh what the frig Curtis.

  157. whozat says:

    FAIL curtis. FAIL.

  158. Ross in Jersey says:

    Grandy, you’re killing me. Not making any friends tonight..

  159. Mike HC says:

    Gardner would have ….

    I don’t want to upset anybody

  160. lily-bk says:

    ww grandersn you’ve got to be kiddin me

  161. Gardner makes that play.

  162. Mike Axisa says:

    Ack, he had it in his glove. Stupid ground caused the fumble.

  163. Shaun says:

    If hughes throws another fastball I swear im reaching through the tv and strangling him. USE THE FUCKING CHANGEUP AND CURVERBALL

  164. poster on a different computer says:

    So, Hughes. He has shit for stuff tonight, huh?

    • mbonzo says:

      You couldn’t hit shit that hard.

      • poster on a different computer says:

        No. And? I’m not judging his stuff on how good it has to be for me to hit it. He’s throwing it to major leaguers. Who are hitting it easily. So tonight, which is all I said, his stuff seems to be shit. I’m not saying his stuff is normally lke that. I think Hughes is an excellent pitcher.

        What was the point of that completely random strawman?

  165. Well fuckity fuck fuck.

  166. Accent Shallow says:

    TV off.

  167. Ivan says:

    Ok nothing is going right.

  168. Reggie C. says:

    MAICER IZTURIS. Yankee killer.

    Hughes has nothing tonight.

  169. Sheepmeister says:

    What the heck is it with sucky players hitting home runs now.

  170. Ross in Jersey says:

    Really…..? Really? IZTURIS? What the fuck is with this team and giving up home runs to only the shitiest players? Kevin Cash? Reid Brignac? Come on already!

  171. Mike HC says:

    Well, the Yanks have some runs to score.

  172. Carlosologist says:

    Well shit. Hopefully Hughes limits the damage to just two runs and the offense goes gonzo next inning.

  173. Reggie C. says:

    I think we see Albaladejo reeeeeeeeeeal soon.

  174. Esteban says:

    So has Hughes looked bad tonight? Can’t watch the game.

  175. baby carlos says:

    Well, I guess that was expected……

  176. Seriously? People are complaining about a ball that cleared the fence at the absolutely shortest part of the park? Get some perspective.

  177. Mike Axisa says:

    We’re definitely over 2.5 changeups. I’ve seen at least four.

  178. Attn: ZZ

    Do you think that it looks like Hughes is short arming the ball a bit? For some reason, I’ve always thought that about his motion/delivery.

    • Mike HC says:

      He always looks like he short arms it a bit, like a catcher. That is just his style.

    • ZZ says:

      In a way he always kind of looks like he short arms the ball. I think that is because he is just very compact in his upper body with his motion. He just has very short arm action that keeps everything tight.

      But he does look shorter than usual tonight. It is hard to tell, because Hughes is so good at repeating his delivery that when something goes wrong it is so slight.

      Idk, he just seems very mechanical tonight. He doesn’t seem to be consistently making a seamless motion where his front leg drives forward and his arm follows all the way through.

      I keep going back and forth whether it is this or he just doesn’t have good stuff tonight. Hughes is very hard to tell with.

      • Jose the Satirist says:

        Interestingly enough I looked up how much movement he is getting tonight. It is actually more horizontal movement and vertical movement on his fastball than he has averaged for the year.

        • ZZ says:

          The horizontal movement I think because the ball is tailing on him a bit.

          I don’t know what to make of the vertical movement though. That’s interesting.

  179. Spray cheese I get, but wtf is wrong with Chinese take out?

  180. Ross in Jersey says:

    @Joelsherman1 #Yankees keep saying Granderson playing excellent CF, but guy makes lots of misreads, especially break back on balls in front.

    Hey kids, want to be a columnist and expert Yankee analyst? Make broad statement, cite example that happened 10 seconds ago as proof.

    • It’s called timing. And lets just be honest, Brett Gardner is a better CF and the rationale behind playing Grandy there over him is no longer relevant. Back then they weren’t sure Brett was an everyday player, and he’s #3 in WAR on the team.

      http://www.fangraphs.com/winss.....38;month=0

      • Ross in Jersey says:

        Gardner doesn’t get the best jumps either, by the way.

        And what do you want to do? Swap him and Gardner? Bench Granderson?

        • No benching, just put your best defensive configuration out there. It’s not April anymore, it’s late July. I think Grandy has his feet wet by now, and even if he doesn’t it’s time to stop worrying about anything but winning games at this point of the season.

      • Jose the Satirist says:

        The problem is the change won’t likely happen.

      • Mike HC says:

        Agreed completely. I think Gardner should be in center and it is becoming more and more obvious everyday, for a multitude of reasons.

        One being, Gardner clearly has a future with this team.

        • Ross in Jersey says:

          I don’t get it, what does Gardner’s future have to do with who’s playing CF? They’re both out there, you can’t tell me there’s a huge difference in CF and LF when they’re both good outfielders.

          • The CF can cover for 2 lesser fielders. The LF, not so much. That’s why your best fielder plays CF.

          • Mike HC says:

            Agreed that the difference is not huge. But I think Gardner has proven to be the better centerfielder at this point in their careers, and if both are in our long term plans, why not play the better guy in center?

            Agreed that Granderson is good though, and it is nothing major.

            • It’s nothing major, but a play or two can win a tight game here or there. Especially in CF, where outs becomes doubles and triples real fast.

              • Mike HC says:

                Agreed. Thats why I want to make the move as well.

              • Mike Axisa says:

                Granderson’s troubles have been on balls in front of him. Those are extra singles, not doubled and triples.

                • True, but Gardner’s speed will reach balls that Grandy just doesn’t get to. I’ve seen a few balls in the gap just past Grandy’s glove that I’ve wondered if Gardner reaches.

                  In any case, back to the original point and there’s no good reason anymore not to put the best defensive configuration out there, unless someone has something to add here that I’m unaware of.

  181. Pete says:

    FWIW, Hughes has thrown 6 changeups so far today, per gameday

  182. JMV says:

    so i hope the next inning is hughes’ last for the night

  183. bexarama says:

    Guys: he throws a changeup. Sit on it.

  184. JMV says:

    this guy’s changeup is lethal

  185. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Just cut the game on and wow Hughes sucks!

    • poster on a different computer says:

      I had something much meaner originally planned, but thought better of posting it.

      Rest assured though, I think this is a MAJOR overreaction.

  186. baby carlos says:

    Paging Yankee offense, Paging Yankee offense… please report to the stadium field immediately. Your party is waiting.

  187. Sweet Dick Willie says:

    This guy’s entire demeanor has changed since the 1st inning. He seems to be pitching with a lot of confidence right now.

  188. Alex S says:

    who the fuck is this mick?

  189. baby carlos says:

    almost forgot the Yankees have 2 hits off of Cy O’Sullivan.

  190. JMV says:

    im astonished we only have 2 hits against this douche

  191. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    This is almost pathetic.

    • Mike HC says:

      Its really not that bad. Hughes has been subpar for the past 10 starts now, over 5 era. And if he can get a couple of good innings to end his start here, it will be ok.

  192. kunaldo says:

    offspeed please?

  193. jon says:

    remember how joba was good up till he hit his last year max innings in 2008?

    hughes pitched 80 innings last year

    in hughes first 82 innings he has a 3.17 ERA

    his next 20 hes had a 5.79 ERA and about to get worse

    • Mike HC says:

      Except, Joba’s whip was like 1.5 even in the beginning of the season.

      Hughes first half this year was far better than Joba’s first half last year.

      But yes, both seem to be tiring in the second half so far.

  194. Mike Axisa says:

    Yay Jorge. Out by a mile.

  195. Ross in Jersey says:

    Wow, Posada with a laser to 2nd. Don’t see much of that these days.

  196. Mike HC says:

    Excellent. The Yanks needed a momentum change here.

    Posada with the quick, fast and accurate throw. Gotta love that!

  197. Ivan says:

    DEAD!!!!

  198. mbonzo says:

    JESUS!!!! 2-2, 2 Homeruns, Walk

  199. JSquared says:

    Yankees getting out-homered by Jesus Montero.

  200. baby carlos says:

    Jeter will see 2 pitches this AB

  201. Steve says:

    Calling all Captains!! (Lame I know)

  202. boogie down says:

    Boy oh boy, is DoTF gonna be nice tonight! Montero with another homer, making him 2-2 with 2 HR’s, 3 RBI’s (I know) and a walk thus far tonight. He’s not hitting .272 with an OPS of .804.

    btw, both homers have been to right center.

  203. How awful is it going to be when Kay calls Jeter’s 3,000th hit?

  204. Steve says:

    Let’s go Jete

  205. Did Kay just say Jeter will get ANOTHER 100 hits this year? It’s 10 days away from the 2/3 mark of the season.

  206. Mike Axisa says:

    Thanks for trying, Derek.

  207. Ross in Jersey says:

    Who didn’t see that coming? It’s okay Gardner, don’t steal or anything.

  208. Steve says:

    Horawful

  209. Alex S says:

    ugh jete……why doesn’t Gardy just steal!

  210. Ivan says:

    Jeter..Ya killin me!!!

  211. baby carlos says:

    Hey Esteban…. How is this.

    Well that was a tough out. But at least Jeter took more than one pitch.

    • bexarama says:

      When multiple people comment on how negative you are in Game Threads, you might want to think about toning it down just a bit. And not in a sarcastic way.

      • bexarama says:

        Sorry for being Thread Police.

        • baby carlos says:

          except the Yankees are getting their asses handed to them once again by either a rookie pitcher or a AAA call up…. And one that is not even that good.

          With the line up they have tonight there is zero excuse for them to hit the way they are…none of this bullshit about tipping the cap, well he pitched a good game, or any other lame cliche. This is the defending WS champions getting owned….unacceptable on so many levels.

      • baby carlos says:

        Your right…..

  212. Pete says:

    god damn.

  213. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Jeter really sucks right now.

  214. Ross in Jersey says:

    Anyone else feel the YES broadcasters have been going out of their way to mention Torre tonight? Usually it’s like a taboo word. Trying to stick it to McCarver maybe?

    • boogie down says:

      I don’t know if they’re trying to stick it to McCarver but I sure as hell wouldn’t object. Ol’ Timmy needs to familiarize himself with Godwin’s Law ASAP.

  215. YankeesJunkie says:

    Hopefully Hughes can give the Yankees one more inning.

  216. Mike Axisa says:

    This strike zone is brutal.

  217. Cy Farnsworth says:

    As a one time pitcher, I sympathize with Hughes.

    As a Yankees fan, I want to drive up to the Bronx and strangle this ump.

  218. Ivan says:

    Hughes has been off with his pitches all game, not by alot but just enough for him to be not that effective.

  219. Hughes must hate pitching at home. What is that now? 14 HRs in the Bronx?

  220. poster on a different computer says:

    6-2 lead…Doesn’t look good.

  221. mbonzo says:

    ALBIE!

  222. Mike HC says:

    Not a great way to go out there. Hughes is going to have some serious work to do to figure out why his last 11 starts have been subpar.

  223. Reggie C. says:

    Napoli has knocked Hughes out the game.

    Hughes can’t beat this B-lineup. I’m pretty disappointed.

    AND Albie comes in! YAY!

  224. Mike Axisa says:

    Ack. One inning too many.

  225. baby carlos says:

    Angel’d again.

    I think MLB should mandate that the Yankees only have to play the Angels 3 times during the season.

  226. YankeesJunkie says:

    Hughes was just bad tonight. At least I can call them growing pains unless the team decides he is more valuable in the 8th. Then I may just shoot myself.

    • mbonzo says:

      He was trying his best to hit corners, but the strike zone was a joke. Wouldn’t write him off right now.

      • YankeesJunkie says:

        Never did, just growing pains. These are the games that he needs to learn from and get better from it.

  227. bexarama says:

    Hughes’ home/road splits aren’t pretty, I suspect.

  228. Ivan says:

    Hughes will figure it out. I know he will.

  229. Ross in Jersey says:

    Sigh, and now we get to hear about from all the ESPN writers about how the Yankees are in real trouble, pitching isn’t that good, yadda yadda.

    This would be a pretty bad loss, enough excuses for not beating AAA level pitching.

  230. Bryan says:

    I’m nearly about to pull a Kevin Brown.

  231. Per Brooks, I count NINE balls in the zone not called strikes.

  232. bonestock94 says:

    Hmm, its funny that Napoli wasn’t the starting catcher all season long

  233. Esteban says:

    Just as I was about to write that maybe the Yankees needed Cliff Lee after all, I look and see Jesus has 2 HRs tonight. WOW.

  234. Alright, Ablie. Be the next D-Rob!

  235. YankeesJunkie says:

    Any explanation why Hughes has been awful at home with so many homers while fantastic on the road? Small sample size? Young Age? Luck? A little everything?

  236. Ross in Jersey says:

    This strike zone is a god damn joke.

  237. Mike Axisa says:

    Gardner woulda had it.

  238. Fuck; nothing is going the Yankees’ way tonight.

  239. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Albaladejo already getting squeezed at the plate as well.

  240. Frigidevil says:

    Hopefully those number translate from the Marmalade forest.

  241. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Yes, Michael Kay, the major leagues is better than AAA. Glad we got that out of the way.

  242. SteveD says:

    As per a few posts back………Hughes has not pitched well for a while now. 11 games ?? could be. I think they need to make a move for a pitcher. Maybe bring someone up ? Pettite out hurt AJ sucking and punching doors and Hughes getting hit hard. Im not feeling too good about the situation.

  243. One thing I’ve noticed already, Alby’s tempo is very different. He’s added a foot-tap, and his fastball seems to have more late life to it than it used to.

  244. YankeesJunkie says:

    How Alby can catch any balls with that glove is a surprise.

  245. mbonzo says:

    Albie to the 8th!

  246. Joe says:

    OMG Scott Proctor is now in against the SWB Yankees.

  247. Sweet Dick Willie says:

    So Phil gets charged w/ 6 earned runs tonight, despite the fact that his OFs can’t catch balls hit at them.

    Just another reason ERA is a somewhat flawed statistic.

    • Mike HC says:

      On the flip side, the Yanks have had one of their best defenses of recent memory this year, so I’m sure they have saved him a bunch of runs as well throughout the year.

  248. Hughes did not get that call.

  249. YankeesJunkie says:

    Oh, that is now a strike to Swisher. This umpire should be shot.

  250. Ross in Jersey says:

    Wow, nothing is going our way tonight. Doesn’t help this umpire is inconsistent as all hell.

  251. Kevin in Delectable Princeton says:

    Girardi getting fired up, comeback imminent.

  252. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Good for Joe. The home plate ump can go **** himself.

  253. “This isn’t your fight.” Way to be, Joe!

    (Tex was out)

  254. baby carlos says:

    ahhh Joe, doesn’t matter tonight, don’t waste our energy…

  255. He’s going home and he’s taking the binder with him!

  256. YankeesJunkie says:

    Giradi should have blinded the ump. Not like it would have affected the calling any way.

  257. Nazi-Cashman says:

    Did I just see Geraldo Rivera in the stands?

  258. baby carlos says:

    No fucking hits since the first…. No hit by AAA. Unbelievable, simply unbelievable.

      • baby carlos says:

        Good grief! Really? Look, it is one game and it may be acceptable for them to perform like this but I am of the Boss school where they should win every game…. or at least put up a fight in the games they lose. Not replicate the Arizona Diamondbacks.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          I am of the Boss school where they should win every game…

          No said losing is an acceptable goal, but you can’t treat every regular season game as life and death. Otherwise you’re going to die a lot of times.

        • bexarama says:

          Yes, really. I understand being aggravated (I have to have a few “this game sucks” comments on here, and if I don’t: this game sucks.). But you make the same complaints over and over, rarely say anything positive except in an extremely sarcastic way, declare games over before they are, and until recently, rip on Teixeira for just about anything he does. I am not the only one who feels this way, nor am I the only one who comments on it.

          I’m really sorry to say this. It feels terribly bitchy. I’m not trying to be this way, because in the non-Yankee Game Thread things you say, you are really awesome. But I figure just be honest rather than passive-aggressive.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Relax. You’ll forget about this game by Friday. It’s not the end of the world.

  259. Not loving the ~4% uptick in O-Swing% from Alex this year.

  260. Ross in Jersey says:

    Oh good, another 1-2-3 inning.

  261. lily-bk says:

    tomorrow javy is pitchng….whos pitching for the angels???

    i just hope he pitche well against them

  262. boogie down says:

    Well, I guess you’ve got to let an inning pass for the manager-getting-thrown-out-to-invigorate-his-team tactic to sink in.

  263. S.King says:

    this has been a painful game to follow

  264. Rose says:

    O’Sullivan has retired 17 of 18 since Axisa jinxed it by trash talking him in the first inning lol

    Thanks!

  265. Mike HC says:

    Gotta love arguing in baseball. It is quite unique.

  266. Mister Delaware says:

    That guy we just saw in the front row on the foul down the RF line, white shirt w/ the blue sleeves … yeah … maybe untuck.

  267. forensicnucchem says:

    Well, sure looks like a good thing that I missed most of the game so far.

    I see not much has changed…

  268. Mike Axisa says:

    Scott Proctor just had a 42 pitch inning against SWB.

  269. Mike HC says:

    Did O’Neill just give a dig to Abreu with all that “laid back” talk.

  270. All Star Carl says:

    Some poor defense and offense today :(

  271. ARX says:

    Bobby, just give it up man.

  272. Ross in Jersey says:

    Posada probably wants Abreu to run every time he’s on base to beef up his CS% a bit!

  273. poster on a different computer says:

    This is a rather bizarre game. Not at “That Diamondback game” level, but bizarre.

  274. YankeesJunkie says:

    You can’t run into walls when Abreu would not get 20 feet near one.

  275. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Nice job by Albaladejo. Beats the hell out of Moseley.

  276. Mister Delaware says:

    Good. Last thing I feel like watching is Alba throw 50 pitches after working as a 1 inning guy at Scranton. This was probably too many, but not egregious.

  277. YankeesJunkie says:

    Looks like Abreu is afraid of bags too.

  278. Carlosologist says:

    Thursday’s starter is Bruce Chen. No one in the lineup hits him particularly well, except for Teixeira and Jeter. Tex has crushed Chen to the tune of .636/.667/2.364 in 12 PA. Jeter also hits him well (.393/.433/.679).

  279. Finish this equation for me.

    Chan Ho Park+Low leverage situation= ??

  280. poster on a different computer says:

    So, we lost this game.

  281. forensicnucchem says:

    Boy, that wasn’t predictable or anything…

  282. Cy Farnsworth says:

    It’s a Thrilla! By Godzi….oh wait, wrong team :(

  283. Carlosologist says:

    Matsui. ;_;

  284. YankeesJunkie says:

    Nice job Albaladejo.

  285. S.King says:

    chan angel-ho park

  286. ARX says:

    :sigh:
    Why is he still here?

  287. lily-bk says:

    is it time to dfa park now??

  288. Mike Axisa says:

    And Chan Ho Park takes the lead in the DFA pool.

  289. YankeesJunkie says:

  290. S.King says:

    everytime park gives up a HR, he has this look on this face that says “what the– who puts a wall there!”

  291. Rose says:

    This game was the opposite of the usual. Starting off beating up a rookie pitcher and then being tamed by him. Usually the Yanks go a few innings of nothing and get him towards the end.

    No way. Not in this game.

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Eh, they mix them together pretty well. They did this against Arrieta earlier this year too. Hit pretty well for a couple innings, then did nothing after that.

  292. Wow, it’s like 1910 all over again. Japan invades Korea.

  293. Ross in Jersey says:

    Welp, it has been a long time since the Yankees put up a real stinker on both sides of the ball. It happens, get em tomorrow.

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Saturday doesn’t count?

      • poster on a different computer says:

        They scored five runs.

      • Ross in Jersey says:

        The offense did pretty well on Saturday. They win if that’s a well pitched game.

        • forensicnucchem says:

          That game was 8-2 at one point too. So, is this one suddenly not bad if they put 2 or 3 meaningless runs on the board in the 8th/9th?

          • Ross in Jersey says:

            Uh yes? Is that hard to understand or something? No run is “meaningless” unless you expect hitters to give up when the score is lopsided.

          • poster on a different computer says:

            When did we say that the team played well or not? Just that the offense didn’t stink. So yeah, if they put up three more runs or so the offense won’t have stinked.

            • forensicnucchem says:

              I don’t agree. They still stunk against the guys that mattered. Getting a couple runs in a blowout against pitchers who wouldn’t be near the game if the score was close doesn’t do much for me.

  294. Tom Zig says:

    Meme: 1; Yanks: 0

  295. Cecala says:

    Matsui showing how he was the original CHoP and Chan Ho stole the nickname from him.

    /Makavelli’d

  296. Wes says:

    Lost in all of this…we just saw the end of Chan Ho Park. One part of the Chad Ho Moseley combo is eliminated.

  297. Mark says:

    When was the last time Shields was good vs the Yanks 6 years ago?

  298. Ross in Jersey says:

    @swbyankeesTT Final line on Ivan Nova: 8 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 6 K. Mark Melancon is in for the ninth.

    @swbyankeesTT 97 pitches, 62 strikes for Nova tonight. As strong a game as any Yankee has pitched all season.

    Someone knows there’s a spot opening up in the big league rotation.

  299. All Star Carl says:

    Cano is terrible

  300. S.King says:

    cano giving up an at-bat. i hate that

  301. CapitalT says:

    When was the last time Albi pitched more than 1 inning for SWB?

  302. lily-bk says:

    granderson is terrible

  303. Sweet Dick Willie says:

    I hope K Long can work his magic w/ Granderson this off-season. I’m not liking me some Curtis at this point.

  304. So while there’s a break in the action, which storyline gets the most press tomorrow:

    1. Hughes struggling
    2. Granderson sucking
    3. Park being 2010 Park

  305. I wonder…

    maybe it’s because I don’t read the MSM stuff a lot or with great detail, but there hasn’t been much negativity from those guys towards Hughes like there was with Joba last year when he struggled. What do you guys think things would be like if everything was the same this year, but Hughes and Joba flipped places? That is, Joba’s a starter, kicks serious ass for the first month, then hits a rough patch. Something tells me the press would be all over Joba.

  306. P. Allen says:

    First the all star game and now this, oy vey.

  307. Ross in Jersey says:

    Jeter has officially made me cringe when hearing Kay’s “he’ll face the top of the Yankee’s order” line.

  308. All Star Carl says:

    My boy Montero. He needs to be up here. Can’t be any worse than Cervelli.

  309. Peter says:

    Fell asleep watching this game. This is an absolute snooze-fest

  310. Gustavo says:

    I love the Yankees, but we need to be honest with ourselves right now. This is NOT A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. It’s barely a post-season team, if that. The combination of Cashman’s indifference to the team’s actual needs and Girardi’s blind confidence in anything dressed in pinstripes is disgusting. What’s even worse is most bloggers/analysts/experts are on the same bandwagon. It’s one team to believe in your team; it’s a totally different thing when you turn a blind eye to the team’s struggles with the blanket statement the the “Yankees are a second-half team” or “they will break out of their slump soon.” It’s the AL East, folks. One game is all it takes to get a team out of the playoffs. This isn’t the AL West.

    • Cecala says:

      here we go…

    • Dirty Pena says:

      As they say, this isn’t going to end well.

    • It’s barely a post-season team, if that.

      /checks standings
      //stops reading your post

      • Gustavo says:

        Hey bud, stay tuned. It’s not gettin’ prettier.

        • So did you not watch when the Yankees took two of three from the Rays, including a game in which they put up seven runs on David Price while piecing together almost seven innings from their bullpen?

          • Gustavo says:

            That’s great. I loved that game. Watched every last second of it. But the consistency is just not there.

            • So they’ve got the best record in baseball and have played well of late (aside from tonight and Saturday) yet consistency is not there?

              Illogical troll is illogical. O:S.

              • Gustavo says:

                Last time i checked there is no prize for best record in baseball as of July 20th… But then again, I’m not expert, like you.

                Good call resorting to name-calling, champion. Way to win ‘em all.

                • Mike Axisa says:

                  Last time I checked there was no penalty for losing a game on July 20th either.

                • bexarama says:

                  No, there’s not a prize for best record in baseball on July 20. But if we’re inconsistent, what’s the rest of baseball? I guess teams like the Orioles and Astros are consistent but we don’t want to be consistent like that…

            • poster on a different computer says:

              Before tonight, the Yankees won 10 of 12 games.

              After tonight, they’ve still won 10 of 13.

              But you think they’re inconsistent.

              Okaaaaaaay…

        • Dirty Pena says:

          What slump are you even referring to that they need to break out of?

    • Ross in Jersey says:

      lol at the Yankees not being a postseason team. Yeah, best record in the majors, just took 2 of 3 from their closest competitor, but they’re apparently doomed after one bad game.

      I think you meant to post this on NYYfans or LoHud where people would actually take you seriously.

      • Gustavo says:

        Nah man, that’s all fine and dandy. But that whole “we’re up by a few” stuff doesn’t work in the AL East. Not when the team has so many big holes. Don’t get me wrong, I want them to win; I just don’t buy the blind confidence.

    • Sweet Dick Willie says:

      Perspective: the faculty of seeing all the relevant data in a meaningful relationship.

      Perspective: What you don’t have.

      Perspective: What you need.

    • ZZ says:

      One game is all it takes to get a team out of the playoffs

      By my math it is actually 7 games, because the Red Sox are 7 back in the loss column.

  311. Cecala says:

    Lol @ the sunflower seeds on A-Rods head…

  312. Captain Jack says:

    There’s like seven or eight replacement level guys on the roster.

  313. ZZ says:

    Good signs for Alex tonight. Love when he drills the ball to right center.

  314. Mike Axisa says:

    Two hard hit balls by Cano, two outs. So it goes.

  315. ARX says:

    BAH.
    I’m still holding out hope for a 7-run 9th.

  316. poster on a different computer says:

    I think Matsui will hit a grand slam.

  317. All Star Carl says:

    Matsui don’t like us anymore :(

  318. Mark says:

    Crowd probably wants a grand slam lol.

  319. Meh, after those two games when the Yankees used up the bullpen, I’d take that off day.

  320. Carlosologist says:

    Normally I wouldn’t root for the opposing team, but I’ll make an exception. If Matsui hits one out, I’d enjoy it.

  321. Mike Axisa says:

    Gaudin is catching up to Park in the DFA race…

  322. JohnnyC says:

    If I didn’t know better, I’d think Granderson was utterly uncoordinated and had only recently taken up the hobby of playing baseball,

  323. All Star Carl says:

    Come on O’s

  324. S.King says:

    chad says “not so fast, chan ho– i’ll buy my ticket outta here before you!”

  325. claybeez says:

    Would this be the 1st time the Yanks didn’t win when Girardi has been ejected?

  326. /waits for two grand slam inning

  327. ARX says:

    Wasn’t there a point before the season when we thought Gaudin was a better choice than Mitre? Sergio is laughing at us.

  328. All Star Carl says:

    Whatever they did to Granderson and his stance, they need to change it back.

  329. If I were Granderson, I’d be flipping a shit right now. Bad night at the plate, iffy night in the field, I finally rope one and Abreu gets to it? I’d be straight O’Neilling it in the dugout.

  330. Mike Axisa says:

    Soriano just blew a save and Luke Scott hit a walk-off win. No matter how ugly this game was for the Yanks, Tampa’s lost was far more ugly and damaging.

  331. Mike Axisa says:

    Gardner woulda had that.

    • Carlosologist says:

      First meme of the second half I think.

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Since you say this every time, I have to ask. Do you actually think Granderson gets good jumps in the outfield and gets to everything he ‘should’?

      • Mike Axisa says:

        No, but neither does every other outfielder. I think his defensive shortcomings are greatly exaggerated.

      • I’m not Mike, but, yes. I think Granderson is overall a very good fielder who just had an iffy night.

        • forensicnucchem says:

          You really don’t think he gets back jumps? Wow, a couple times a game he turns the wrong way on balls. Many of them he catches up to and gets, but there are almost as many that drop in as hits that shouldn’t be.

          The one today, Gardner was closer to getting than Granderson.

          • Mike Axisa says:

            You’re comparing him to Gardner, who by all accounts is one of the best defensive outfielders on the planet. Of course he’s going to make Granderson look back.

            Compared to the rest of the world, Grandy’s still an above average defensive player.

            • forensicnucchem says:

              Wow, I mis-say ‘back’ jumps, so you do too…

              But yeah, all true. It’s just frustrating when he plays outs into hits, and only gets others thanks to his speed and a ‘lucky’ dive.

            • Gonzo says:

              Grandy’s having a good year according to his UZR. A very good year.

  332. Mike Axisa says:

    All I want from this game is for Scioscia to have to make a pitching change.

  333. ARX says:

    OK, 2-out 8 run rally, no problem.

  334. forensicnucchem says:

    Pena hitting for Jeter.

    Is it sad that I don’t know if that’s a downgrade or not?

  335. claybeez says:

    Ugly, frustrating game. I hope tomorrow brings better baseball with a W.

  336. bexarama says:

    Thank God that’s over and these things only count for one loss.

  337. stuart says:

    The premise is BS. Granderson stink. Jeter is horrible, his AB’s are Pena like.

    Hughes has been bad for a while

    gaudin needs to be let go, he stinks under any objective standard he is horrible.

  338. ARX says:

    I hate the Angels. I don’t care if we take 2 out of 3, I won’t be happy unless we bash their skulls in at least one of those games. I demand a 14-1 rout :-(

  339. Reggie C. says:

    Jason Stark tweeted that a major trade looks to be going down where the Phillies will acquire a pitcher but trade Werth in a companion trade.

    Interesting!

    • poster on a different computer says:

      Good! Whatever makes it less likely for the Mets to make the playoffs.

      Though it seems that they’re keeping themselves out w/o help…

    • forensicnucchem says:

      Jayson Stark at home: Hmm, watching game, Moyer gets hurt and leaves early.

      I bet if I tweet that a trade is going to happen for a pitcher and mention a guy that has been talked about for a month, and then something happens to happen, I’ll look really smart.

  340. bonestock94 says:

    Phillies supposedly involved in talks for a major trade for a frontline pitcher

  341. bonestock94 says:

    Haren, Sheets, and Rays not involved. Supposedly the Phillies shopped J.A. Happ…why??

  342. jonathan says:

    Wow, i’d really like it if we could somehow pull off Werth in a 3way without giving up Montero/Romine. I think our pitching will come around. I’m more worried about our offense. What would you guys give up for Werth? Can’t be Javy with Andy going down and the league figuring out that Phil throws 90% 4 seamers. Do you think the Phillies would trade Werth to us? They bypassed us when they traded Cliff Lee.

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