Girardi finishes fifth in AL Manager of the Year voting

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After leading his team to one of the most improbable late-season comebacks in baseball history, Rays skipper Joe Maddon was named the AL Manager of the Year for the second time today. He received 26 of 28 first place votes, and was somehow left off one ballot entirely. Diamondbacks manager Kirk Gibson took home the NL Award.

Joe Girardi finished fifth in the voting, receiving three second place votes and five third place votes. He finished sixth in the voting last season and third in 2009. Jim Leyland, Ron Washington, and Manny Acta all finished ahead of the Yankees skipper. The full results can be found on the BBWAA’s site. The NL Cy Young Award will be announced tomorrow, with the AL MVP to follow on Monday.

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  • http://riveraveblues.com Moshe Mandel

    That is a disappointing finish.

  • Cris Pengiucci

    I understand why Maddon won, but I think Girardi should have been very close in points to Ron Washington, probably ahead of him, based on the pitching staff he entered the season with. Guess the Writers see the large payroll and just expect Girardi to win a lot of games.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Well yes when the Yankees outspend a lot of teams by 50-100 million dollars they should be the best.

      • Cris Pengiucci

        Except history proves it doesn’t work that way. And Giriardi doesn’t fully control the players he gets. He has to manage what he’s given (I’m sure he has some input) and create a winning team day after day.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Okay that first line isn’t true and you know it. The Yankees have won 90 games at least this entire decade and then some. And the Yankees really underperformed their pythag so I don’t know why we should credit Girardi as being a top gun when he’s mediocre.

          • Cris Pengiucci

            Your certainly right on the first part. Tha Yankees have consistently been 90 game winners and a good portion of that is due to salary. Girardi deserves credit for managing a very good bunch of players in a very tough market. My opinion is he desverse about as much as Washington, who perhaps doesn’t have the full financial muscle behind him that Girardi does, but he certainly isn’t lacking for that much either.

          • Jumpin’ Jack Swisher

            How is it not true? Lower payroll teams can, and have, won championships over higher payroll teams.

            I love how the term “pythag” is thrown in there to lend legitimacy to what winds up being just the opinion of someone who doesn’t like Joe Girardi.

            I don’t think he should have won Manager of the Year. Whether he finished third, fifth, or tenth is pretty irrelevant.

          • thenamestsam

            I’m not sure I buy a one-year under achievement relative to their Pythagorean record as evidence that Girardi had a bad year. It could be just as much random noise as anything else. I thought Girardi had a very good year, particularly managing the pitching staff.

  • Mike Myers

    Eric Duncan is now a Royal. Can anyone manage him to the pros? nope.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    wtf?? Francona should’ve won in a landslide….anyone who has to manage that group of dimwitted aholes deserves a trophy.

    • Yank The Frank

      If it was sponsored by Hooters, he would have.

  • bonestock94

    Joe Maddon always deserves it

    • Foghorn Leghorn

      That’s a hit!

  • Steve (different one)

    For those who love to complain about Girardi, and he is obviously far from perfect, I hope you watched Washington this October. That guy is a brutal tactician.

    • Jose M. Vazquez..

      He would have been fired by the boss the moment he tested positive for cocaine.

  • Soriano Is A Liar

    I think the true travesty here is Mike Scioscia getting votes.

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    Don Maddon deserves the award. He manages a bunch of journeymen with a few stars and is able to compete with the superpowers. Sometime ago the people at MLB tv picked Francona as the best manager and I was appalled of their choice. When you lose a great portion of your team and still are able to win that is managing.

  • Monteroisdinero

    Asking Swisher (and Grandy) to sac bunt knocked him down to 5th but it should have been further.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    Where did “The Binder” finish in the voting? ahead or behind Girardi?

  • thenamestsam

    This has to be the dumbest award in baseball, and possibly all of professional sports. No one really has any idea what makes a good manager, and a huge portion of their job takes place off the field and is therefore almost completely unobservable to the people doing the voting. The rest of their job (the tactical portion) is obviously not what the judging is based on when guys like Washington and Leyland are in the top 5.

    How many fewer votes would Maddon have gotten if the Sox hadn’t collapsed down the stretch, and the Rays miss the playoffs? And what did he have to do with that exactly?

    • Jose M. Vazquez..

      The thing is that Maddon wins with less than all the others.

      • thenamestsam

        But can you point to a specific thing that Maddon did that led to that? Because I sure can’t. Basically you’re just making my point, which is that it’s all dependent on what expectations for your team are, even when those expectations aren’t based on anything.

        • Jose M. Vazquez..

          He shuffles players in and out and gets the most of what is given him. He platoons with success and never lets his pitchers go more than they can. He seems to be loved and respected by his players so that he can get the most out of them.

          • thenamestsam

            You may be right about those things, but I’ve never seen anyone present any evidence that Maddon does more of that than any other manager. You say “Gets the most out of what is given him” repeatedly, but it all comes back to expectations. Fangraphs, for example, had the Rays as the 6th best team in baseball. It’s not like there’s no talent over there.

            Anyway I don’t want to make this an argument about Maddon, because it’s not at all. It’s about the award in general. If I asked why Gibson won the NL award someone would give me the exact same answer “Oh he really gets the most out of his guys” with no evidence to back it up. We just don’t have a good enough idea of what any manager does or doesn’t do to deem anyone the best.

        • Monteroisdinero

          And he has theme trips with costumes!

          • Jose M. Vazquez..

            That too.

          • thenamestsam

            I laughed.

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    To put it another way it is like Maddon is a Volkswaogon winning a race against Ferrari, Lamborguini, Porsche and Mercedez.

    • Foghorn Leghorn

      I’m no expert, but no way Maddon wins that race with those big ass glasses and head of hair…

    • thenamestsam

      But my point is that in this case we have no way of knowing what car he’s driving except by looking at the results of the race. In a car race, we know a Ferrari is faster than a Volkswagon, but in baseball how do you know which team is better until you play the season. Sure a bunch of writers said the Red Sox were a Ferrari (maybe even faster than the 1927 Yankees Ferrari!), but that didn’t make it true. So the writers are lauding him for winning the race with the Volkswagon, except that they’re the ones who said it was a Volkswagon in the first place!

  • Maddon’s an idiot

    Maddon won by getting the WC, yet, it wasn’t as much his effort as it was the RS falling apart that got him to the post season. It wasn’t an incredible season. This is just cover to the RS collapse.

    These awards just go to show that the writers shouldn’t be voting on these things anymore. They are a joke almost as much as the gold glove awards have become.