Game 72: HOPE

Mike Newman on Mason Williams
Williams homers again in Charleston win
(Photo via Yankees P.R. on Twitter)

The Yankees kick off the 2012 installment of HOPE Week today, beginning with Flying Manes, a “nonprofit organization dedicated to helping individuals with physical and emotional disabilities by providing therapeutic horse riding instruction.” Chad Jennings has the full details. Here’s the lineup…

SS Derek Jeter
DH Curtis Granderson
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Robinson Cano
RF Nick Swisher
LF Raul Ibanez
3B Eric Chavez
CF Dewayne Wise
Chris Stewart

RHP Hiroki Kuroda

Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and ESPN2 nationally. It was raining quite hard earlier this afternoon, but the forecast doesn’t look to bad for tonight. Enjoy.

Russell Martin Update: Martin (stiff back) is feeling better but is not quite ready to return to the lineup just yet. He’s available in case of emergency tonight.

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Mike Newman on Mason Williams
Williams homers again in Charleston win
  • Dino Velvet

    Will Middlebrooks: Great 3rd baseman or Greatest 3rd baseman?

    • Greg

      That joke comes from somewhere? I forget where it comes from.

      • Strat

        Stephen Colbert.

        • Greg

          That’s right

  • Bartolo’s Colon

    nothing quite as graceful as ibanez settling under a high fly ball

  • jjyank

    Little late to the party. Damn commute.

    Bring it Hirok.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I laugh at the Detriot Tigers…a team that is in the negative mid 40s in run differential is leading the division the Tigers were supposed to have runaway and hid with by now.

    • Bartolo’s Colon

      how are the tigers not leading the central? underperforming offense or bad pitching or both?

      • jjyank

        I’m too lazy to look it up, but even before the season, their offense was basically Miggy, Fielder, and friends. I know Fister got injured too.

      • Greg

        Offense to this point has been Miggy and Fielder and that’s it.
        Bullpen has been iffy, especially Valverde.

      • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

        The Tigers are pretty top heavy from what I’ve seen. Their best players are otherworldly (Cabrera, Prince, Verlander) but they don’t have much of a supporting cast.

    • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

      I think the White Sox are much more of a problem for the Tigers than the Indians are. The Indians will probably end up below .500 unless something significantly changes about their team, so if the Tigers don’t make the playoffs it’ll probably be mostly due to the White Sox and the fact that the Tigers aren’t actually that good.

      • jjyank

        Yeah even if the offseason I thought they were being massively overrated.

        • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

          Them and the Angels. And the Marlins.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            I think the Angels are very good…they’ve got a great starting staff, also with Trout acting like he’s been doing this for a decade already their offense is a force to be reckoned with.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        They really have 3 All Stars, and then a bunch of so-so major leaguers. Their team is Verlander, Miggy, and Prince.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    I mean -FORTY in run differential and leading the division. How is that even possible?

  • Greg

    Colby Rasmus hits a 2 run homer off Doubront to give the Jays a 2-0 lead

    • jjyank

      GO JAYS!

      • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

        Error by Middlebrooks. Heh.

        • jjyank

          I really really hope that Youkilis goes on a crazy tear for the rest of the season while WMB falls flat on his face.

          • Bartolo’s Colon

            except of course thise weekend in the bronx

  • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

    First defensive chance of the Middlebrooks era results in an E5.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Gameday must be broken, they’re telling me that Jeter took the first pitch?

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Anyone hear Francesa today? He kept saying that you “need the big hit” to win in the postseason.

    The problem with that logic is that he assumed because of the RISPfail that the Yankees would have trouble doing that. But our homers have been in pretty big spots, and we’re getting PLENTY of big hits. Consider:

    . A NINE RUN comeback against the Red Sox

    . A-Rod’s 8th inning game tying grand slam

    . The two homers in game 2 of the subway series that got us in the lead down an 0-3 hole

    . Cano’s homer yesterday

    . Russel Martin’s walk-off home run

    The whole “the Yankees have RISPfail, thus they aren’t clutch” thing is a total myth.

    • jjyank

      I agree. RISPFAIL is damn frustrating, for sure, but this team has a runner in scoring position in almost every single at bat. And like you said, some of those homers have come in pretty big spots.

      I am also of the school of thought that it is likely easier to hit one mistake pitch out of the park against a good pitcher than it is to string together a sustained rally.

    • Christopher

      Thank you for saying that. RISP is a stat head’s heroin – a real buzz but not much else.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Warning, I’m in a douchey mood tonight. Don’t know why, but I might say some ridiculous shit tonight, and completely bash any trolls…

    • jjyank

      I really hope stuart a or dan l comes back for the game thread.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Stuart A isn’t coming by tonight, the guy who killed his dog isn’t playing.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      DO IT!

  • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

    The crew is talking about the “too many homers” thing again. I understand that the counter-claim here is that while it’s harder to hit homers off good pitchers in the postseason, it’s even harder-er to get a sequence of hits off good pitchers. I would tend to believe that, but are there analyses or studies that actually show this? I’d love to have an article handy to be able to reference whenever this subject comes up.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Honestly, just go back to the games we’ve won off of Shields, Price, Verlander, Santana, Dickey, Johan, the list goes on, we’ve beaten them by going yard.

      • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

        Sure, that’s why I don’t believe the “too many homers” thing. But that’s just anecdotal evidence from one team in one year. It would be good to have a general answer to the question of “Do teams that rely more on homers do better, equal, or worse against good pitchers than teams that hit fewer homers but score as many runs?”

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          That’s a massive undertaking…if I ever feel up to doing a whole lot of research, I would definitely like to know and do a write up on it…but since Axisa gets paid to do such things, we should ask him to do it.

          OH MIKE!!

          • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

            Well, I was hoping someone had already done an analysis like that, since Mike and others have made that counter-claim confidently. Again, I tend to believe it, but it would be nice to see some data behind the counter-claim.

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              The problem is there are a lot of variables that go into it…
              What constitutes a team that relies on the homer?
              What constitutes a team that scores runs in other ways (because they’re still going to hit homers)
              What constitutes a great pitcher?
              What about pitchers that aren’t great but don’t give up homers?
              What about pitchers that are good but do give up homers?

              • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

                Doesn’t need to be too complicated. For example, you can simplify it to two variables: team’s reliance on homers (say, % of runs scored via home run), and quality of opposing pitcher (say, ERA or FIP or whatever). Then just look at how those two variables predict runs scored.

                Sure, there are different ways to do the analysis, but you could get a decent answer by doing a simple analysis like this.

              • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

                Okay, it looks like this has in fact been done: http://mlb.si.com/2012/06/25/n.....runs-risp/ (pretty similar to what I suggested) — original article is behind a paywall (http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=17470).

                The key part is the paragraph that starts with: “Indeed, the data shows that teams reliant upon the home run actually fare better in the postseason than those who don’t.”

  • flamingo

    Jeter and Grandy are making this guy work.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Tex too…He’s thrown 26 pitches and has one out to show for it.

  • Need Pitching

    damn … that ball was smoked

  • Bartolo’s Colon

    im not expecting any runs here, but at least they are working the pitcher

    • Bartolo’s Colon

      wow, that was awesome

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    A Ruben Sierra-esk single.

  • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

    9 pitch at bat for Jeter, 10 pitch walk by Granderson, 7 pitches to Tex to start the game. 26 pitches, 1 out in the 1st. Pretty sweet.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    God damnit Robbie. I love ya, but why are you trying to get to third there…

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Haha, still angry, but a lot less so, I thought that was the third out for some reason.

  • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

    Even when Cano gets a hit with RISP, he still messes up!1!1!!!!

  • Mike N

    RISPHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Greg

    Actually the wildness of Kipnis’s throw helped the Indians.

    If that’s throw’s online to the plate, I don’t think they get Cano at third.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Was it up the third base line? that’s the only way I could see an off line throw helping. (PS, listening on the radio)

      • Greg

        Yep. It was uo the third base line

    • Need Pitching

      but if the throw was online to the plate, I think they do get Tex

      • Greg

        That could be true too

  • Bartolo’s Colon

    never saw that commercial, they really know how to wow people here in ny

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    He’s just so lazy.

  • Need Pitching

    nice play, Robbie
    just put yesterday’s defense behind you

  • Greg

    Ump is not calling the outside corner tonight

  • Dela G

    Robbie on fire!

  • Greg

    I know David Ortiz is a DH and if he goes to the Hall then Edgar Martinez should go to the Hall.

    But Edgar Martinez doesn’t have any rings so that should work in Papi’s favor.

    I’m saying this because he hit a 2 run homer against Henderson Alvarez to cut the Jays lead in half/

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Papi might have more power than Edgar, but Edgar was a better hitter all around than Papi.

      • Greg

        Edgar had a better overall average, that’s for sure.

        Papi is one of the few left handed hitters who can go against the shift at will. He goes the other way alot.

        Just musing

    • Tom

      Ortiz is not even close… doesn’t have the counting stats.

      And pending the outcome of his investgation into his failed drug test (he must really be thoroughly researching the results), that also hurts him big time.

      Marginal stats + PED taint…. usually means no chance (even with the Red Sox love by the NESPN). Even without the failed drug test, he probably wasn’t close.

      • Brian S.

        That’s what you think. But ESPN will get their propoganda on and get him in.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        I understand you’re a Yankee fan and hate the Red Sox, so do I, but a .284/.380/.546 career slash and almost 400 career homers aren’t marginal…By the time he retires he’ll probably have hit 450, as well as over 500 doubles…that’s gotta be at least heavy consideration.

        • Need Pitching

          he’ll get some votes, but Edgar was definitely better
          and technically 450 HR for an all bat player would definitely be considered marginal for HOF, especially in steroid era

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            I agree, If Edgar isn’t/doesn’t get in, then Papi shouldn’t even sniff the ballot.

            • jjyank

              Agreed totally. But I thought the same thing about Jim Rice, so…

            • Tom

              Even if Edgar gets in, Ortiz shouldn’t sniff the HOF and 400 HR’s is marginal by HOF standards.

              400 Hr’s in the greatest offensive era in baseball… Andruw Jones has 427 HR’s and is a 10 time (?) gold glover – and even he might not be a slam dunk. Carlos Delgado has 473 HR’s, Juan Gonzalez 434 (though that was probably chemically enhanced), Vlad 449. And these guys brought other skills.

              This isn’t about Red Sox hatred – when all you do is hit, you need to be exceptional, and do it for a long period of time. He had a tremendous 5 year stretch at the end of the steroid era and has a failed drug test in that timeframe.

              37.5 fWAR? (typically 60 is fingish HOF) Edgar was a better hitter (wOBA, wRC+) and put up ~70fWAR (which give you an idea of both the longevity and the hitting quality)

          • VT Yankee Fan

            Let’s not forget that Ortiz was busted for PEDs.

            • jjyank

              “I’ll look into to it…”

              I hate how Ortiz got a free pass after that and nobody seems to give a crap. Yet Red Sox fans love to hate on A-Rod for it. Funny.

              Unrelated, but you’re a Yankee fan in Vermont? I only ask because I went to undergrad there and I freaking love that state.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      If Ortiz gets in then the best course of action is to burn Cooperstown to the ground and start a new one.

      • jjyank

        I would lend you my pitchfork and torch.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Both belong in the HOF.

  • Tom

    First game of the series, pitcher at 35 pitches after 1 inning, let’s see if the offense can avoid the Chris Stewart AB’s and get into the bullpen early and often. (and not give up outs on the bases)

  • Andy

    Great ab by Chavy

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    5 dollars Wise tries to bunt his way on.

    • Greg

      GIMME MY MONEY!

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      WAIT WHAT THE FUCK?

      • Greg

        \http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZomwVcGt0LE&feature=player_detailpage

        • Greg

          Sorry it was supposed to be Stewie beating up Brian for his money

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            hahaha, I know that scene well.

            • jjyank

              It is indeed a great one. Seasons 1-5 in Family Guy are pure gold.

    • bobtaco

      or NOT!

  • Brian S.

    How did Cleveland blow a 3-1 lead in the 2007 ALCS again?

  • sangreal

    Wise?? Nice

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Well you know you suck when….

  • Mike N

    First RISPHIT and now YARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Need Pitching

    Wise choice to play Dewayne today

  • Andy

    WIse??

  • Bartolo’s Colon

    i think wise just pipp’d granderson there

    • Bartolo’s Colon

      oh, i forgot he is dh’ing, i don’t think it counts

  • Jack

    Well, that was unexpected.

  • flamingo

    …Dewayne Wise just homered? I like this game.

  • Tom

    Look at Granderson, ummmm, Wise?

  • Brian S.

    DEWAYNE

  • Dela G

    woo woo!

    Too many homers

  • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

    Did anyone hear Sterling’s call?

    • Andy

      What was it?

      • Brian S.

        “And the other black guy gets a home run! What’s his name again Suzyn?”

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      OH-HO, THAT’S A WISE MAN!!

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        I wish I was kidding btw…I really do…

    • eephus_pitch

      Did he make one up on the spot?

      • jjyank

        No, I’m sure Sterling stays up late at night during Spring Training thinking of a call for every player on the 40 man.

        • eephus_pitch

          I wonder if he has one for Sabathia.

  • Tom

    I though with the end of interleague, the pitcher no longer batted?

    #FreeCervelli (yeah I went there!)

    • Jack

      Free might still be too expensive.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        If free is to expensive for Cervelli, than Stewart should be paying us to play.

        • Jack

          He isn’t? I thought this was one of those adult fantasy camp situations.

      • Tom

        Nice!

  • Need Pitching

    well at least Jeter is making him throw a lot of pitches, so there’s that

  • jjyank

    I like this game so far.

    • Brian S.

      It’s been above average.

  • Adam

    So…how many games has Michael Kay been waiting to break out the Wise choice play on words?

    • flamingo

      You know he’s been chortling over it since spring training.

      • OMG! Bagels!

        Chortle. Nice.

  • jjyank

    I bet Hiroki is thinking “WTF! Where did that zero go under ‘NYY: R’ sign??!!”

  • Brian S.

    Jump throw!

    • jjyank

      Love me some of that play.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Suzyn just called out The Yankee fans as ignorant “half the people here don’t know anybody on this team(referring to the Indians)” Asdrubal is probably the best hitting SS in the AL, Sin Su Choo is a great RF, and Santana

    then in right after John calls out those who say Jeter doesn’t have any range, saying they don’t actually watch the games…because Jeter made one above average play (I’m only listening, but I’m going to guess an average SS makes that play almost easily)

    I hate these two…they need to go to that retirement home they’re always advertising for.

    • jjyank

      Hell, outside of Choo, Santana, Masterson, Cabrera, and Shelley (for obvious reasons), I barely know any of these guys too.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        That’s still over a third of their starting line up, a member of their starting staff, and the best bench player ever…that’s pretty good for a team that we see a handful of players a year.

        • jjyank

          Yeah, but only 20% of their MLB roster. Actually, I know about Perez too, so 6/25.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            and Damon. that’s over 25%

            • jjyank

              Damn it fine, you win :P

    • OMG! Bagels!

      Sterling, half the time, has no idea who is on the Yankees or how many strikes/balls/out there are. When will she call him out?

    • eephus_pitch

      That whole “people who disagree with me must not actually watch the games” thing is such fucking bullshit. I WATCH THE GAMES, ASSHOLE. Lots of people who disagree with you watch the games, and I daresay they understand what they’re seeing a hell of a lot better than you do.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        I can’t count the number of times that I’ve been watching the game, cause you know I’m a baseball and Yankee fan, and I’ve seen a ball hit to the SS side of second and thought “nice a nice easy ground ball ou…GOD DAMNIT, HOW IS THAT A BASE HIT, ANY SHORT STOP GETS TO THAT BALL”

        • eephus_pitch

          If they’re feeling especially generous they might say “well maybe he doesn’t have the range to make the incredibly flashy play, but he makes every ROUTINE play.”

          Cut to Jeter not making a routine play, then crickets.

  • Brian S.

    I like Kuroda.

  • Greg

    Dotel has to be one of them right?

    • Greg

      Nope, he’s been with 6.

  • Andy

    Chili Davis

    • Greg

      Not him either, He’s only been with 4.

  • Andy

    Most non-chalant home run call ever

  • Christopher

    The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!

  • Mike N

    CANO!!!!!!!!!!

  • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

    This game has been very enjoyable.

  • Tom Zig

    Can we make this game Kuroda-blow-up proof?

    • Brian S.

      Hiroki has been solid since May began.

  • OMG! Bagels!

    They were talking about his homeruns right before he hits a homerun. Very cool.

    • jjyank

      O’Neil’s reaction was hilarious.

      “Robbie’s been swinging a real hot bat lately, hitting home runs…..*Cano homers*…and there’s another one.”

  • Christopher

    The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!

  • Christopher

    The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!

  • Brian S.

    Robbie wants to be first in the AL in home runs.

  • jjyank

    God damn it Robbie’s swing is so, so beautiful. I just can’t get over it sometimes.

  • Cy Pettitte

    way too many HRs.

    • Mike N

      Cano is so fucking lazy, he only hits homers so he can just jog the base path.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    stupid stat padder…

  • Robinson Tilapia

    AND BELLY TA BELLY!

  • Mike N

    SWISH!!

  • Greg

    Found one of them: Ruben Sierra

    Rangers, A’s, Yankees, Tigers, Blue Jays, White Sox, Mariners and Twins

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I heard ANYONE can be in first place in the AL Central.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Let’s get a team together. I can play a pretty solid third.

      • Brian S.

        I want to play second base.

      • jjyank

        And I can throw hard. I don’t have shit for a breaking ball, but I bet I could blow my fastball by some people.

        • Andy

          I can pick it at first almost as well as Tex. But not really

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Ok, now we just need a Shortstop, Outfield, and Catcher.

          • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

            I could be a catcher just as good as Chris Stewart!

            • jjyank

              Boom. Catcher. Can anyone here get good routes in the outfield?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I can’t play baseball for shit. I’ll be TilapiaMONEY, the GM.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’m starting to get offended that Greg hasn’t chosen a position yet.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Also, I volunteer Erica for leftfield, and Betty Lizard as Martin’s “understudy.”

        • jjyank

          “Under” being the operative word there.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          /snicker

          understudy. I’m sure she’ll love that. Also, Erica in LF is great she’ll get to check out my sweet butt.

          • jjyank

            Okay, your FIP went up by a full point with that comment.

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              in this case is FIP going up a good thing, or bad? I’m still confused about that.

  • Dela G

    too many homers again

  • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

    Ro may get his/her wish (from an earlier thread):

    Ro says:
    June 25, 2012 at 12:48 pm
    Jesus Christmas..Can we please have a blow out win tonight or tomorrow.

    • jjyank

      Hahaha I was thinking the same thing (see my comment below).

      • Gonzo

        This is hilarious. I came on here just to post something about that too.

  • Tom

    So I know the rain pushed batting practice back, does anyone know when batting practice ends and the game starts?

  • jjyank

    Piling it on now! Where was that guy this morning that was complaining that the Yankees haven’t had any blowouts? I wish he would make that complaint more often.

  • christopher

    i usually dislike Monday night games, tonight, it’s enjoyable.

  • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

    I can’t believe the Indians are tied for first. Can we just obliterate the entire AL Central please?

    • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

      Kinda a repeat of Tilapia’s comment above…

  • christopher

    Yankees horsing around again.

  • Jimmy

    If I remember right, the Yankees seemed to always go into a 2-3 game hitting funk after facing Wakefield. No post-knuckler funk here.

  • Tom Zig

    Sorry guys, Yankees are only allowed to score 2 runs per inning this game.

    • jjyank

      I’m cool with that.

      • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

        No. They will never be able to do that in the playoffs. They need to score all 6 runs in one inning.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      It’s a mercy rule that’s in effect, as long as our pitcher isn’t allowing a run there’s a two run cap per inning on us…it’s in the new CBAy (Collective Bargaining Against the Yankees)

  • Mike N

    I know it’s basically marketing bullshit, but I get the sense that the Yanks themselves who participate in the community outreach stuff with underprivileged, sick, or disabled kids really do care, don’t begrudge their time, and enjoy making kids happy.

    (But I’m a die-hard Yankee fan, so of course I think that.)

  • jjyank

    This HOPE week stuff is awesome. Such a cool story that the kids didn’t even know that Yankee players would show up, and then in walks Teixeira, one of the kid’s favorite player.

  • Bob Stone

    Here is an interesting article From A blog called Heartland.

    It summarizes my concerns completely and it hits the nail on the head.

    The link is:

    http://www.grantland.com/blog/.....yre-doomed

    • jjyank

      Sorry, I read the titled and stopped right there.

      • jjyank

        *title

        • Andy

          did the exact same thing

          • jjyank

            Yep. How many times do we say “you can’t predict baseball, Suzyn”? This is a first place team, and a first place team that was supposed to be a first place team. They’re not overachieving. And yet their doomed? Sure, there are some concerns down the road, but how the hell does any blogger know the Yankees are doomed without the benefit of a crystal ball to tell the future?

            If you use the words “doom” and “Yankees” in the same sentence, I no longer take you seriously.

      • Need Pitching

        I wish I did as well

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Actually read the article…it’s basically the company line, RISPFAIL and TOO MANY HOMERS will eventually catch up with the team, CC is only an ace if w give him an “optimistic assessment”

      ” My fellow Yankee pessimists know how this story ends; the home runs dry up against superior playoff pitchers, the woeful RISP hitting continues, and the Yankees lose in the divisional round for the fifth time in their last seven postseasons.” That’s the last paragraph, and the entire article summed up in one sentence.

      Even Greg is more optimistic than this guy.

      For the 1000000000th time, we’ve already beat some of the best pitcher in baseball, including Verlander, Price and Shields (3 guys we would face en route to the WS) by HITTING HOME RUNS. It’s hard to build rallies against good pitchers, every pitcher in every game makes mistakes, the way to beat them is to take extreme advantages of those few mistakes.

      • jjyank

        Preaching to the choir here. Besides the ridiculously arrogant assessment that “dooms” the Yankees when they are a team that makes the post season every year. The playoffs are a crapshoot, we all know that. But they are “doomed” to make the playoffs every year? That’s insane. Anything that happens after that is mostly luck and timing. How many teams have won the World Series that were not even in the top 3 most talented of all playoff teams that respective year?

      • christopher

        It’s easier to be negative – you don’t have to think.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          Lol, when it comes to the Yankees I feel it takes more energy and thought to be positive, rather then looking for reasons and thinking about why they must be terrible at some point.

      • Mike N

        Yep. And also, only someone completely ignorant would make a prediction before the All-Star break concerning whether any team is going to get knocked-out in the first round of the playoffs. There’s just no way to know what’s gonna happen, the best predictor of future performance is past performance, and the Yanks are currently one of two teams in the majors with a winning percentage over .600.

    • Pat D

      Yea, as soon as I saw the title, I just skimmed through it and said, “Eh, fuck this.”

  • Greg

    Feel bad for Kuroda tonight. The ump has taken away the outside of the plate for both pitchers which takes away his sinking fastball to lefties

    • Robinson Tilapia

      It must be terrible to be up 6-0 after five innings.

      You’ve now been benched on our team.

  • eephus_pitch

    Francesa’s probably hoping for a furious Indians comeback here, otherwise he’ll have to do a show tomorrow about all the awesome Yankee homers. He doesn’t want that.

    • jjyank

      “Yeah, hitting too many homers are bad, except when…ya know, they’re good?”

      You’re right, he wants nothing to do with that show.

  • Brian S.

    Settle down Hiroki.

  • Cy Pettitte

    Nice work by Kuroda. Would be nice if they could tack on a few more and let Kuroda toss a few more than have Freddy finish it so the whole pen gets a day off.

    • Andy

      Definitely a Freddy kind of game

    • Andy

      Definitely a Freddy kind of game

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Not until it goes to 8. But I just never liked Freddy ever.

        • jjyank

          I think Freddy can handle six. And if they score 2-3 runs, bring in someone else.

  • Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin

    What happened to the espn2 feed?

  • Alkaline

    I don’t care the Yanks are winning 6-0. They got 4 of them by homeruns so they don’t count.

    /followthenarrative

    • OMG! Bagels!

      But it’s the stadium’s fault. It’s not their fault. If it wasn’t for this stupid stadium, they’d be doubles.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I know Mike wrote about this earlier today, but for the love of God, give Derek a day off, he’s worse than his pre-DL self right now…That hard liner excluded.

    • Greg

      Trevor Plouffe. I want this guy. Can play multiple positions and can mash a bit

      • jjyank

        Hahaha I laughed. Bravo for referencing the old handle.

        • Greg

          I’m not kidding. Want him for the bench.

          • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

            Greg…no, I’d have to root against a Yankee and I never want to have to do that.

            • jjyank

              At least you could change your handle back!

          • Crime Dog

            I’ve read his defense is awful. His BB rates are very low, and his power surge is a fluke. Never had more than 15 HRs in AAA.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Hahaha.

    • jjyank

      Yeah, Jeter definitely needs a good 2 full days off.

  • OMG! Bagels!

    Jeets. WTF.

  • Brian S.

    Poor Jeter getting screwed by BABIP.

  • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen)

    FYI, I posted above that I found what I was looking for in terms of debunking the “too many homers” this, but I’ll post it here too:

    http://mlb.si.com/2012/06/25/n.....runs-risp/ (pretty similar to what I suggested) — original article is behind a paywall (http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=17470).

    The key part is the paragraph that starts with: “Indeed, the data shows that teams reliant upon the home run actually fare better in the postseason than those who don’t.”

    • Mike N

      Very interesting. Thanks for finding those!

    • jjyank

      Sounds about in line with my own views.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      Nice finds Mr. Sojo.

  • Alkaline

    CHOO CHOO!!!!

  • OMG! Bagels!

    I knew we’d get around to food sooner or later.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    jjyank you haven’t answered me so I’m moving the question down here, is FIP going up a good or bad thing in reference to it’s new meaning?

    • jjyank

      Haha sorry, I forgot to scroll back up. It’s a bad thing, like FIP in it’s actual sense. You started out with a FIP of like 1.5. I think you went up a couple weeks ago to a 3 or so, but I’m thinking more like 4.5 after that. :P

  • Athenian

    Think Kuroda is going to end up on the DL due to shock that the Yankees scored more than 2 runs for him.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      *heart attack*

      You’re……here. Did you check the score? Is your TV upside down tonight, Athenian?

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        I think somebody just stole his password :P

        • Tom Q

          I was just thinking it was probably going to be a troll-deficient night, but one popped in anyway.

  • Greg

    At this point the Blue Jays and Red Sox are mirror images of each other.
    Both can hit but their pitching is left to be desired. Remember we play these teams the most in the second half

    • Pat D

      16 times left against each team, though 4 of the Boston games are right before the break.

  • Pat D

    What a difference a day makes. The house that my sister was going to buy and was sold to someone else, fell back into her lap today when the other people got buyer’s remorse.

    So I guess there is some justice in that the real estate agent who screwed her over didn’t get what she wanted.

    And, naturally, I being my first full week of vacation/unemployment by catching a cold that’s been going around.

    • Greg

      Oh, you were the one who was cursing estate agents yesterday.

      • Pat D

        Yep. My sister and brother-in-law got screwed by this agent, but then the other people said no, so now the place is theirs.

        • jjyank

          Glad it worked out for them though. Sorry to hear about your cold, but I hope you’re enjoying the time off otherwise.

          • Pat D

            Well applying for unemployment was a pain in the ass. We were given information to enter that didn’t match what the application asked for. Then I got a call this morning asking me about the severance package we’re going to receive.

            You’re expected to do all this shit now to prove that you’re looking for a job, though you probably never have to present it to someone. It’s really seeming like I’ll have to put in more work getting unemployment than as if I actually had a job.

            I mean, don’t take any time deciding what kind of job you want or if you want to go back to school for something, nope. Be out there applying for whatever piece of shit job is out there. All this shit went into effect this year. I have our honorable governor (anything but after his interjection in the Penn State stuff) and state legislature to thank for this shit.

  • Bob Stone

    I received some negative comments about the Grantland blog article complaining about pessimists.

    Just to clarify, I have voted in every Fan Ccofidence Poll this year and voted 9 every single week.

    The Yankees are the best team in the American League with the possible exception of Texas.

    I just thought the article was well written with good facts. The view that I share with that article is that Yankee pitching is adequate (so we can’t count on just shutting every team down) and the overall RISP Fail is not helpful in what most agree is a crap-shoot when it comes to the playoffs.

    • jjyank

      We (at least I) was responding to the article, not you. But CC-Kuroda-Pettitte is pretty good, if the playoffs started today. Not amazing, but when you write an article like that in June, it’s hard to know what will happen in October. I just thought it was kind of dumb.

      • Bob Stone

        I agree on the timing and the headline, but the few real flaws on the Yankees team were well presented and well documented with stats.

        • jjyank

          I also don’t count RISPFAIL as a flaw.

          • Mike N

            I don’t, either. I consider it random chance, and their BA with RISP will trend back towards their overall BA (which, admittedly, is not so great).

            • Need Pitching

              I’d agree with that to an extent, but I think it’s gone beyond just random chance. There have been plenty of RISP PA’s where the hitter was over anxious and had bad approaches to the AB.

              I’d say the RISPfail has definitely been a flaw to some degree for the past almost 2 months. The questions I’d have would be:

              Is it likely to continue for the rest of the season? (statistically highly unlikely, I would think, at least to the same degree. I’d fully expect at least some degree of positive regression).

              Also, if the RISPfail does continue, are the other aspects of the Yankees team (power, pitching) good enough to overcome the RISPfail? (I’d guess at least good enough to make the playoffs)

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Kuroda really made ass dribble look bad there.

  • Cy Pettitte

    I’m still not convinced this guy can pitch in the AL.

  • Brian S.

    Kuroda can’t handle the AL

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Greg feels very sad for him tonight.

      • Greg

        No I felt sorry at the time because the ump was squeezing the plate for both pitchers. He’s worked around it though

        • Robinson Tilapia

          As long as you’re happy, we’re all happy.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    My Red Sox fan friend from work just had the nerve to text me a pic of the championship banners at Boston Garden with the caption “Two titles? How cute, Heat.”

    Not only have the Heat been in existence for only 24 years, but should any Boston sports fan ever be trying to one-up someone who they know is a Yankees fan with number of championships?

    Thank god she’s kind of cute in a nerdy way.

    • Pat D

      That would annoy me. Most females I know that have an interest in sports really don’t know much about them.

      I remember being at a friend’s house several years ago and one girl who was there was like, “I always think you should root for the teams where you live.” My friend who hosted this shindig almost kicked her out of the house, because he completely rejects that idea and believes it is the sign of someone who isn’t really a sports fan.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I actually know some real diehards. I have a friend who can talk Mets baseball with the best of them. My wife also tries her best, unhealthy Melky and Matsui obsessions aside (actually, the porn thing ruined her on Matsui.)

        This one does alright with her Boston sports stuff. She’s just immensely fun to needle.

      • Bob Stone

        Living just north of Boston, I can tell you that there are a lot of female “pink hats” rooting for the BoSox ever since 2004 when it became “trendy” to root for the team.

        Before you accuse me of being a total male chauvinist pig, I know a lot of MALE “pink hats” up here too.

        The funny thing is that all the expert TV and radio commentators always talk about how much more knowledgeable baseball fans are in Boston, Philly and New York than any other markets. At least in Boston, that statement has become diluted by the “pink Hats” since 2004 and 2007.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      This is a baseball blog and I propose that LBJ and the hideous site of him and the Heat winning a championship never again be mentioned on these pages.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I’m sorry he didn’t come play for Knicks like everyone decided he was going to, other than him.

        They are, however, my favorite NBA team for the entire 24 years of their existence.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          As a Knicks fan, this pretty much pushed me over the edge. I’m done with the NBA probably until his reign of terror comes to an end.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Well, then you and the Knicks are on the same page.

            *snare*

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          And I don’t hate him because he turned down the Knicks but because I think he cheapened winning a championship by stacking the deck.

          Imagine if Bird left the Celts to team up with the Lakers or if Jordan and Barkley went to Portland to play with Denver. To me, that’s what LBJ and Bosh did.

          • Manny’s BanWagon

            Drexler not Denver.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Imagine if the Yankees signed Mark Teixeira and CC Sabathia the same off-season and won the championship that very year.

            The stacking the deck stuff is single biggest piece of bullshit I’ve ever heard and is actually the antethesis of what a Yankee fan should be saying. We all know that, no matter who the personnel is, you still have to actually play the game and that it’s not the names on the backs of the jersey that win you ballgames. That team still had deficiencies and holes they had to overcome, just like the Yankees do.

            Let’s move on to happier stuff, MBW. :)

            • jjyank

              Slightly unrelated, but I love how AJ Burnett is left of this list now :P

              Actually, I don’t love it. But you know what I mean.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Tactical choice.

            • Manny’s BanWagon

              That’s fact not BS.

              Adding Tex and CC on a 25 man baseball roster when any one players impact is very limited is a hell of a lot different than adding Wade, Bosh and LBJ to an NBA team where 6 guys probably play 90% of the teams minutes.

              The equivalent would be if Kemp , Braun, Kershaw, Hamilton, Votto and Strasburg were FA’s and all conspired to sign with the Yankees.

              Glad you’re happy with the title but LBJ took the pussy way out

    • Bob Stone

      I live just north of Boston as a Yankee fan and have since 1989.

      Prior to 2004, I would just laugh at my Red Sox friends and acquaintances and say “wait until October”. But 2004 was so chastening that I am a little more circumspect abou the rivalry now.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        That was probably the first time in most of our lifetimes that the Sux really drew blood. I never hated them until that point and actually rooted for them against the Mets in 86.

        • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat)

          1986 must have sucked. I’m glad I wasn’t alive to experience it.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Imagine, just out of fucking nowhere, you’re suddenly the only kid in class with a Yankee hat on when EVERYONE was wearing one just yesterday. That was 1986.

            • Bob Stone

              At least another NY team, the Mets, took out the BoSox in the World Series in 1986. That was sweet!!

      • Mike N

        Ugh. 2004 was miserable. I remember guffawing after it became 3-1, chuckling after it became 3-2, nervously snickering after it became 3-3, and then wanting to gouge my own eyes out.

  • Mike N

    Is it really within the rules for this pitcher to pause so long on his windup?

    • jjyank

      I don’t think so, but it’s a rule that’s never been enforced.

      • Mike N

        It’s seriously distracting me, and I’m not even trying to hit.

        • jjyank

          I don’t like it either. Beckett comes to mind.

  • Brian S.

    Who is John Barnes?

  • Cy Pettitte

    nice night for Wise.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    DEWAYNE WISE IS A DOUBLE AND SINGLE AWAY FROM THE CYCLE!

    • jjyank

      If he hits for the cycle, I will eat my hat.

  • Pat D

    Dewayne Wise getting two XBH’s means you’re winning.

    And, yea, I thought he was out.

    • Greg

      And he was

  • TampaYankee

    My man Wise!!!!

    Wahoo!!! I am loving this game so far!

  • Brian S.

    He was out but that was awesome.

  • Andy

    He looked out without the replay

  • Mike N

    Is anyone else on this page getting a pop-up dialog box asking for a username and password from Sitemeter?

    • TampaYankee

      Yeah, every time.

      Also, Royals just opened up 6-0 over that AAA team in my area. Nice.

    • DERP

      Yes.

    • Yankeefan Arod Fan

      yes i am getting that message to

    • Fin

      yea, I was wondering if I picked up a virus

    • Pat D

      I’ve seen it about 3 times.

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      Right after you wrote this.

  • DERP

    Betances faced Daniel Cabrera tonight. Thought that was funny.

  • Bob Stone

    YES – I am as well.

  • Brian S.

    lol Chris Stewart. lol our catchers. They better be framing the shit out of our pitches this season.

  • Itishighitisfaritisgonerightyouarejohn

    Girardi new boy
    Wisie had a good game.

  • Bob Stone

    Respond fail – meant this to go in reply to Mike N.

  • DERP

    I’m hoping we see Rapada today.

  • DERP

    Kuroda xFIP at 3.99.

  • Itishighitisfaritisgonerightyouarejohn

    Chavez showing some range there huh?

  • Need Pitching

    nice play, Jete

  • DERP

    That was nice.

    • Mike N

      I love Teix at 1B.

  • Adam

    Garcia 8th or 9th? He is practically the only bullpen-ite who hasn’t played the last two days.

  • Brian S.

    Final line in Dellin Betances tonight was 3 ip, 5 h, 7 r/er, 4 bb, 4 k. All over the place.

    trololololo

    • Greg

      Need better pitching prospects in this organization

      • Brian S.

        We have Bryan Mitchell!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Bullpen time.

  • Tom Zig

    Dewayne Wise has the 2 hardest parts of the cycle done. Now if he can somehow manage to get a single & double.

  • Dela G

    kuroda is straight dealing

  • Greg

    By the way, Henderson Alvarez left with an injury, The 4th Blue Jays pitcher to leave with an injury in about a week and a half

    • Itishighitisfaritisgonerightyouarejohn

      Payback from the baseball gods for stealing signs in their park.

  • DERP

    Henderson Alvarez left the game with an apparent arm injury. Can’t make this up.

  • TampaYankee

    Just saw on ESPN DJ says he wants to be an owner of a team.

    He retires, joins Yankees higher ups, buys Yankees when Hal and Hank get sick of it?

    YES PLEASE!

    • Pat D

      He and ARod pool some money together, get a group of wealthy people behind them, like Nolan with the Rangers and Magic with the Dodgers.

      Why not?

  • Itishighitisfaritisgonerightyouarejohn

    What do you guys think about astros chris snyder as a pick up. Better than stewartt?

  • Andy

    Rapada is Gollum

  • Adam

    Boy I am glad that Paulie was referencing the Jim Carey movie and not the Cher one…

  • Mike N

    I like this story about pitchers in the OF bullpen throwing sunflower seeds at the outfielders.

  • Bob Stone

    Awright Blue Jays – 9-5 over the BoSox in the 7th and its starting to rain harder.

  • Mike N

    OWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

  • CBean

    Ow poor Tex

  • Bob Stone

    The tarp is out in Fenway! Keep Raining!!

  • Brian S.

    So who is coming in?

    • Greg

      Kuroda is still in there but Rapada is up

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Four Roses. Maple bitters. Simple syrup.

    Probable victory drink.

    • Mike N

      Sounds delicious!

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Oh, it is.

        And I wonder why I put on about 15 pounds since my kid was born despite going to the gym about five times a week.

        • Mike N

          Maybe drop a maraschino cherry in? Or just a lemon or orange twist?

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Should have.

            • jjyank

              But…I thought I was the resident alcoholic!!! At least according to 2-3 comments interpreted by Plank and handitus, who I haven’t seen in quite awhile.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Oh, I’m sure you’ve got me beat.

                • jjyank

                  But I’m also 23, and at the time of those comments, was also still a college student, albeit a grad student. I still find it a little ridiculous thought.

  • Greg

    Nice play

  • CBean

    Wow that should’ve scored the run

  • Mike N

    Another good play!

  • Andy

    What a grin

    • Andy

      nevermind, that one was better

  • Mike N

    Oye Como Va!

  • Mike N

    ANOTHER!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahah!

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Swisher needs to be disciplined. There’s no room for smiling in baseball. None.

  • jjyank

    Swish looking good in RF tonight. Awesome.

  • Betty Lizard

    To paraphrase Dora Carington:

    “I watch Swisher when I’m happy because he makes me happier.”

  • Tom

    Comfortable win, TB down big, Boston down 4 and stuck in a rain delay, StL losing (I just can’t stand StL for some reason) = nice night.

    • Bob Stone

      Agree completely. I’ve hated St. Louis since they swept the Yankees in the 1964 World Series. That was awful.

  • Mike N

    BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I believe the Yankees are now in first place in the AL Central.

    WHO WANTS ANOTHER BIG WINNING STREAK?!?!

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    So, just got home in time to see the final out, and read through the thread from leaving till the end…I love easy wins.
    1 Athenian post
    0 Stuart a posts
    0 (718) Bronx posts
    0 thaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin posts
    0 Widget posts

    • jjyank

      It’s glorious, isn’t it? I mean, the threads have less posts in them, but it’s worth it without the trolls.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Just saw the replay of Wise’s triple, two things. 1. He was out by about a foot 2. Him and Gardner are the only two on the team that make it even that close.

  • Dela G

    great win

  • Greg

    By the way, you thought the Soriano signing was bad. The Heath Bell contract has been abysmal. He just blew a 4 run lead to the Cradinals in the ninth.

  • OMG! Bagels!

    I love a troll free game thread.