Game 72: HOPE


(Photo via Yankees P.R. on Twitter)

The Yankees kick off the 2012 installment of HOPE Week today, beginning with Flying Manes, a “nonprofit organization dedicated to helping individuals with physical and emotional disabilities by providing therapeutic horse riding instruction.” Chad Jennings has the full details. Here’s the lineup…

SS Derek Jeter
DH Curtis Granderson
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Robinson Cano
RF Nick Swisher
LF Raul Ibanez
3B Eric Chavez
CF Dewayne Wise
Chris Stewart

RHP Hiroki Kuroda

Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and ESPN2 nationally. It was raining quite hard earlier this afternoon, but the forecast doesn’t look to bad for tonight. Enjoy.

Russell Martin Update: Martin (stiff back) is feeling better but is not quite ready to return to the lineup just yet. He’s available in case of emergency tonight.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Dino Velvet says:

    Will Middlebrooks: Great 3rd baseman or Greatest 3rd baseman?

  2. Bartolo's Colon says:

    nothing quite as graceful as ibanez settling under a high fly ball

  3. jjyank says:

    Little late to the party. Damn commute.

    Bring it Hirok.

  4. I laugh at the Detriot Tigers…a team that is in the negative mid 40s in run differential is leading the division the Tigers were supposed to have runaway and hid with by now.

    • Bartolo's Colon says:

      how are the tigers not leading the central? underperforming offense or bad pitching or both?

      • jjyank says:

        I’m too lazy to look it up, but even before the season, their offense was basically Miggy, Fielder, and friends. I know Fister got injured too.

      • Greg says:

        Offense to this point has been Miggy and Fielder and that’s it.
        Bullpen has been iffy, especially Valverde.

      • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

        The Tigers are pretty top heavy from what I’ve seen. Their best players are otherworldly (Cabrera, Prince, Verlander) but they don’t have much of a supporting cast.

    • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

      I think the White Sox are much more of a problem for the Tigers than the Indians are. The Indians will probably end up below .500 unless something significantly changes about their team, so if the Tigers don’t make the playoffs it’ll probably be mostly due to the White Sox and the fact that the Tigers aren’t actually that good.

  5. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    I mean -FORTY in run differential and leading the division. How is that even possible?

  6. Greg says:

    Colby Rasmus hits a 2 run homer off Doubront to give the Jays a 2-0 lead

  7. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    First defensive chance of the Middlebrooks era results in an E5.

  8. Gameday must be broken, they’re telling me that Jeter took the first pitch?

  9. Rocky Road Redemption says:

    Anyone hear Francesa today? He kept saying that you “need the big hit” to win in the postseason.

    The problem with that logic is that he assumed because of the RISPfail that the Yankees would have trouble doing that. But our homers have been in pretty big spots, and we’re getting PLENTY of big hits. Consider:

    . A NINE RUN comeback against the Red Sox

    . A-Rod’s 8th inning game tying grand slam

    . The two homers in game 2 of the subway series that got us in the lead down an 0-3 hole

    . Cano’s homer yesterday

    . Russel Martin’s walk-off home run

    The whole “the Yankees have RISPfail, thus they aren’t clutch” thing is a total myth.

    • jjyank says:

      I agree. RISPFAIL is damn frustrating, for sure, but this team has a runner in scoring position in almost every single at bat. And like you said, some of those homers have come in pretty big spots.

      I am also of the school of thought that it is likely easier to hit one mistake pitch out of the park against a good pitcher than it is to string together a sustained rally.

    • Christopher says:

      Thank you for saying that. RISP is a stat head’s heroin – a real buzz but not much else.

  10. Warning, I’m in a douchey mood tonight. Don’t know why, but I might say some ridiculous shit tonight, and completely bash any trolls…

  11. Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

    The crew is talking about the “too many homers” thing again. I understand that the counter-claim here is that while it’s harder to hit homers off good pitchers in the postseason, it’s even harder-er to get a sequence of hits off good pitchers. I would tend to believe that, but are there analyses or studies that actually show this? I’d love to have an article handy to be able to reference whenever this subject comes up.

    • Honestly, just go back to the games we’ve won off of Shields, Price, Verlander, Santana, Dickey, Johan, the list goes on, we’ve beaten them by going yard.

      • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

        Sure, that’s why I don’t believe the “too many homers” thing. But that’s just anecdotal evidence from one team in one year. It would be good to have a general answer to the question of “Do teams that rely more on homers do better, equal, or worse against good pitchers than teams that hit fewer homers but score as many runs?”

        • That’s a massive undertaking…if I ever feel up to doing a whole lot of research, I would definitely like to know and do a write up on it…but since Axisa gets paid to do such things, we should ask him to do it.

          OH MIKE!!

          • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

            Well, I was hoping someone had already done an analysis like that, since Mike and others have made that counter-claim confidently. Again, I tend to believe it, but it would be nice to see some data behind the counter-claim.

            • The problem is there are a lot of variables that go into it…
              What constitutes a team that relies on the homer?
              What constitutes a team that scores runs in other ways (because they’re still going to hit homers)
              What constitutes a great pitcher?
              What about pitchers that aren’t great but don’t give up homers?
              What about pitchers that are good but do give up homers?

              • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

                Doesn’t need to be too complicated. For example, you can simplify it to two variables: team’s reliance on homers (say, % of runs scored via home run), and quality of opposing pitcher (say, ERA or FIP or whatever). Then just look at how those two variables predict runs scored.

                Sure, there are different ways to do the analysis, but you could get a decent answer by doing a simple analysis like this.

              • Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

                Okay, it looks like this has in fact been done: http://mlb.si.com/2012/06/25/n.....runs-risp/ (pretty similar to what I suggested) — original article is behind a paywall (http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=17470).

                The key part is the paragraph that starts with: “Indeed, the data shows that teams reliant upon the home run actually fare better in the postseason than those who don’t.”

  12. flamingo says:

    Jeter and Grandy are making this guy work.

  13. Need Pitching says:

    damn … that ball was smoked

  14. Bartolo's Colon says:

    im not expecting any runs here, but at least they are working the pitcher

  15. Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

    9 pitch at bat for Jeter, 10 pitch walk by Granderson, 7 pitches to Tex to start the game. 26 pitches, 1 out in the 1st. Pretty sweet.

  16. God damnit Robbie. I love ya, but why are you trying to get to third there…

  17. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Even when Cano gets a hit with RISP, he still messes up!1!1!!!!

  18. Mike N says:


  19. Greg says:

    Actually the wildness of Kipnis’s throw helped the Indians.

    If that’s throw’s online to the plate, I don’t think they get Cano at third.

  20. Bartolo's Colon says:

    never saw that commercial, they really know how to wow people here in ny

  21. Need Pitching says:

    nice play, Robbie
    just put yesterday’s defense behind you

  22. Greg says:

    Ump is not calling the outside corner tonight

  23. Dela G says:

    Robbie on fire!

  24. Greg says:

    I know David Ortiz is a DH and if he goes to the Hall then Edgar Martinez should go to the Hall.

    But Edgar Martinez doesn’t have any rings so that should work in Papi’s favor.

    I’m saying this because he hit a 2 run homer against Henderson Alvarez to cut the Jays lead in half/

    • Papi might have more power than Edgar, but Edgar was a better hitter all around than Papi.

      • Greg says:

        Edgar had a better overall average, that’s for sure.

        Papi is one of the few left handed hitters who can go against the shift at will. He goes the other way alot.

        Just musing

    • Tom says:

      Ortiz is not even close… doesn’t have the counting stats.

      And pending the outcome of his investgation into his failed drug test (he must really be thoroughly researching the results), that also hurts him big time.

      Marginal stats + PED taint…. usually means no chance (even with the Red Sox love by the NESPN). Even without the failed drug test, he probably wasn’t close.

      • Brian S. says:

        That’s what you think. But ESPN will get their propoganda on and get him in.

      • I understand you’re a Yankee fan and hate the Red Sox, so do I, but a .284/.380/.546 career slash and almost 400 career homers aren’t marginal…By the time he retires he’ll probably have hit 450, as well as over 500 doubles…that’s gotta be at least heavy consideration.

        • Need Pitching says:

          he’ll get some votes, but Edgar was definitely better
          and technically 450 HR for an all bat player would definitely be considered marginal for HOF, especially in steroid era

          • I agree, If Edgar isn’t/doesn’t get in, then Papi shouldn’t even sniff the ballot.

            • jjyank says:

              Agreed totally. But I thought the same thing about Jim Rice, so…

            • Tom says:

              Even if Edgar gets in, Ortiz shouldn’t sniff the HOF and 400 HR’s is marginal by HOF standards.

              400 Hr’s in the greatest offensive era in baseball… Andruw Jones has 427 HR’s and is a 10 time (?) gold glover – and even he might not be a slam dunk. Carlos Delgado has 473 HR’s, Juan Gonzalez 434 (though that was probably chemically enhanced), Vlad 449. And these guys brought other skills.

              This isn’t about Red Sox hatred – when all you do is hit, you need to be exceptional, and do it for a long period of time. He had a tremendous 5 year stretch at the end of the steroid era and has a failed drug test in that timeframe.

              37.5 fWAR? (typically 60 is fingish HOF) Edgar was a better hitter (wOBA, wRC+) and put up ~70fWAR (which give you an idea of both the longevity and the hitting quality)

          • VT Yankee Fan says:

            Let’s not forget that Ortiz was busted for PEDs.

            • jjyank says:

              “I’ll look into to it…”

              I hate how Ortiz got a free pass after that and nobody seems to give a crap. Yet Red Sox fans love to hate on A-Rod for it. Funny.

              Unrelated, but you’re a Yankee fan in Vermont? I only ask because I went to undergrad there and I freaking love that state.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      If Ortiz gets in then the best course of action is to burn Cooperstown to the ground and start a new one.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Both belong in the HOF.

  25. Tom says:

    First game of the series, pitcher at 35 pitches after 1 inning, let’s see if the offense can avoid the Chris Stewart AB’s and get into the bullpen early and often. (and not give up outs on the bases)

  26. Andy says:

    Great ab by Chavy

  27. 5 dollars Wise tries to bunt his way on.

  28. Brian S. says:

    How did Cleveland blow a 3-1 lead in the 2007 ALCS again?

  29. sangreal says:

    Wise?? Nice

  30. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Well you know you suck when….

  31. Mike N says:

    First RISPHIT and now YARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. Need Pitching says:

    Wise choice to play Dewayne today

  33. Andy says:


  34. Bartolo's Colon says:

    i think wise just pipp’d granderson there

  35. Jack says:

    Well, that was unexpected.

  36. flamingo says:

    …Dewayne Wise just homered? I like this game.

  37. Tom says:

    Look at Granderson, ummmm, Wise?

  38. Brian S. says:


  39. Dela G says:

    woo woo!

    Too many homers

  40. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Did anyone hear Sterling’s call?

  41. Tom says:

    I though with the end of interleague, the pitcher no longer batted?

    #FreeCervelli (yeah I went there!)

  42. Need Pitching says:

    well at least Jeter is making him throw a lot of pitches, so there’s that

  43. jjyank says:

    I like this game so far.

  44. Adam says:

    So…how many games has Michael Kay been waiting to break out the Wise choice play on words?

  45. jjyank says:

    I bet Hiroki is thinking “WTF! Where did that zero go under ‘NYY: R’ sign??!!”

  46. Brian S. says:

    Jump throw!

  47. Suzyn just called out The Yankee fans as ignorant “half the people here don’t know anybody on this team(referring to the Indians)” Asdrubal is probably the best hitting SS in the AL, Sin Su Choo is a great RF, and Santana

    then in right after John calls out those who say Jeter doesn’t have any range, saying they don’t actually watch the games…because Jeter made one above average play (I’m only listening, but I’m going to guess an average SS makes that play almost easily)

    I hate these two…they need to go to that retirement home they’re always advertising for.

    • jjyank says:

      Hell, outside of Choo, Santana, Masterson, Cabrera, and Shelley (for obvious reasons), I barely know any of these guys too.

    • OMG! Bagels! says:

      Sterling, half the time, has no idea who is on the Yankees or how many strikes/balls/out there are. When will she call him out?

    • eephus_pitch says:

      That whole “people who disagree with me must not actually watch the games” thing is such fucking bullshit. I WATCH THE GAMES, ASSHOLE. Lots of people who disagree with you watch the games, and I daresay they understand what they’re seeing a hell of a lot better than you do.

      • I can’t count the number of times that I’ve been watching the game, cause you know I’m a baseball and Yankee fan, and I’ve seen a ball hit to the SS side of second and thought “nice a nice easy ground ball ou…GOD DAMNIT, HOW IS THAT A BASE HIT, ANY SHORT STOP GETS TO THAT BALL”

        • eephus_pitch says:

          If they’re feeling especially generous they might say “well maybe he doesn’t have the range to make the incredibly flashy play, but he makes every ROUTINE play.”

          Cut to Jeter not making a routine play, then crickets.

  48. Brian S. says:

    I like Kuroda.

  49. Greg says:

    Dotel has to be one of them right?

  50. Andy says:

    Chili Davis

  51. Andy says:

    Most non-chalant home run call ever

  52. Christopher says:

    The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!

  53. Mike N says:


  54. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    This game has been very enjoyable.

  55. Tom Zig says:

    Can we make this game Kuroda-blow-up proof?

  56. OMG! Bagels! says:

    They were talking about his homeruns right before he hits a homerun. Very cool.

    • jjyank says:

      O’Neil’s reaction was hilarious.

      “Robbie’s been swinging a real hot bat lately, hitting home runs…..*Cano homers*…and there’s another one.”

  57. Christopher says:

    The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!

  58. Christopher says:

    The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!

  59. Brian S. says:

    Robbie wants to be first in the AL in home runs.

  60. jjyank says:

    God damn it Robbie’s swing is so, so beautiful. I just can’t get over it sometimes.

  61. Cy Pettitte says:

    way too many HRs.

  62. Robinson Tilapia says:


  63. Mike N says:


  64. Greg says:

    Found one of them: Ruben Sierra

    Rangers, A’s, Yankees, Tigers, Blue Jays, White Sox, Mariners and Twins

  65. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I heard ANYONE can be in first place in the AL Central.

  66. Dela G says:

    too many homers again

  67. Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

    Ro may get his/her wish (from an earlier thread):

    Ro says:
    June 25, 2012 at 12:48 pm
    Jesus Christmas..Can we please have a blow out win tonight or tomorrow.

  68. Tom says:

    So I know the rain pushed batting practice back, does anyone know when batting practice ends and the game starts?

  69. jjyank says:

    Piling it on now! Where was that guy this morning that was complaining that the Yankees haven’t had any blowouts? I wish he would make that complaint more often.

  70. christopher says:

    i usually dislike Monday night games, tonight, it’s enjoyable.

  71. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    I can’t believe the Indians are tied for first. Can we just obliterate the entire AL Central please?

  72. christopher says:

    Yankees horsing around again.

  73. Jimmy says:

    If I remember right, the Yankees seemed to always go into a 2-3 game hitting funk after facing Wakefield. No post-knuckler funk here.

  74. Tom Zig says:

    Sorry guys, Yankees are only allowed to score 2 runs per inning this game.

  75. Mike N says:

    I know it’s basically marketing bullshit, but I get the sense that the Yanks themselves who participate in the community outreach stuff with underprivileged, sick, or disabled kids really do care, don’t begrudge their time, and enjoy making kids happy.

    (But I’m a die-hard Yankee fan, so of course I think that.)

  76. jjyank says:

    This HOPE week stuff is awesome. Such a cool story that the kids didn’t even know that Yankee players would show up, and then in walks Teixeira, one of the kid’s favorite player.

  77. Bob Stone says:

    Here is an interesting article From A blog called Heartland.

    It summarizes my concerns completely and it hits the nail on the head.

    The link is:


    • jjyank says:

      Sorry, I read the titled and stopped right there.

      • jjyank says:


        • Andy says:

          did the exact same thing

          • jjyank says:

            Yep. How many times do we say “you can’t predict baseball, Suzyn”? This is a first place team, and a first place team that was supposed to be a first place team. They’re not overachieving. And yet their doomed? Sure, there are some concerns down the road, but how the hell does any blogger know the Yankees are doomed without the benefit of a crystal ball to tell the future?

            If you use the words “doom” and “Yankees” in the same sentence, I no longer take you seriously.

      • Need Pitching says:

        I wish I did as well

    • Actually read the article…it’s basically the company line, RISPFAIL and TOO MANY HOMERS will eventually catch up with the team, CC is only an ace if w give him an “optimistic assessment”

      ” My fellow Yankee pessimists know how this story ends; the home runs dry up against superior playoff pitchers, the woeful RISP hitting continues, and the Yankees lose in the divisional round for the fifth time in their last seven postseasons.” That’s the last paragraph, and the entire article summed up in one sentence.

      Even Greg is more optimistic than this guy.

      For the 1000000000th time, we’ve already beat some of the best pitcher in baseball, including Verlander, Price and Shields (3 guys we would face en route to the WS) by HITTING HOME RUNS. It’s hard to build rallies against good pitchers, every pitcher in every game makes mistakes, the way to beat them is to take extreme advantages of those few mistakes.

      • jjyank says:

        Preaching to the choir here. Besides the ridiculously arrogant assessment that “dooms” the Yankees when they are a team that makes the post season every year. The playoffs are a crapshoot, we all know that. But they are “doomed” to make the playoffs every year? That’s insane. Anything that happens after that is mostly luck and timing. How many teams have won the World Series that were not even in the top 3 most talented of all playoff teams that respective year?

      • christopher says:

        It’s easier to be negative – you don’t have to think.

      • Mike N says:

        Yep. And also, only someone completely ignorant would make a prediction before the All-Star break concerning whether any team is going to get knocked-out in the first round of the playoffs. There’s just no way to know what’s gonna happen, the best predictor of future performance is past performance, and the Yanks are currently one of two teams in the majors with a winning percentage over .600.

    • Pat D says:

      Yea, as soon as I saw the title, I just skimmed through it and said, “Eh, fuck this.”

  78. Greg says:

    Feel bad for Kuroda tonight. The ump has taken away the outside of the plate for both pitchers which takes away his sinking fastball to lefties

  79. eephus_pitch says:

    Francesa’s probably hoping for a furious Indians comeback here, otherwise he’ll have to do a show tomorrow about all the awesome Yankee homers. He doesn’t want that.

    • jjyank says:

      “Yeah, hitting too many homers are bad, except when…ya know, they’re good?”

      You’re right, he wants nothing to do with that show.

  80. Brian S. says:

    Settle down Hiroki.

  81. Cy Pettitte says:

    Nice work by Kuroda. Would be nice if they could tack on a few more and let Kuroda toss a few more than have Freddy finish it so the whole pen gets a day off.

  82. Thaaaaaaaayankeeswin says:

    What happened to the espn2 feed?

  83. Alkaline says:

    I don’t care the Yanks are winning 6-0. They got 4 of them by homeruns so they don’t count.


    • OMG! Bagels! says:

      But it’s the stadium’s fault. It’s not their fault. If it wasn’t for this stupid stadium, they’d be doubles.

  84. I know Mike wrote about this earlier today, but for the love of God, give Derek a day off, he’s worse than his pre-DL self right now…That hard liner excluded.

  85. OMG! Bagels! says:

    Jeets. WTF.

  86. Brian S. says:

    Poor Jeter getting screwed by BABIP.

  87. Pasta Stumbling Luis Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

    FYI, I posted above that I found what I was looking for in terms of debunking the “too many homers” this, but I’ll post it here too:

    http://mlb.si.com/2012/06/25/n.....runs-risp/ (pretty similar to what I suggested) — original article is behind a paywall (http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=17470).

    The key part is the paragraph that starts with: “Indeed, the data shows that teams reliant upon the home run actually fare better in the postseason than those who don’t.”

  88. Alkaline says:

    CHOO CHOO!!!!

  89. OMG! Bagels! says:

    I knew we’d get around to food sooner or later.

  90. jjyank you haven’t answered me so I’m moving the question down here, is FIP going up a good or bad thing in reference to it’s new meaning?

    • jjyank says:

      Haha sorry, I forgot to scroll back up. It’s a bad thing, like FIP in it’s actual sense. You started out with a FIP of like 1.5. I think you went up a couple weeks ago to a 3 or so, but I’m thinking more like 4.5 after that. :P

  91. Athenian says:

    Think Kuroda is going to end up on the DL due to shock that the Yankees scored more than 2 runs for him.

  92. Greg says:

    At this point the Blue Jays and Red Sox are mirror images of each other.
    Both can hit but their pitching is left to be desired. Remember we play these teams the most in the second half

  93. Pat D says:

    What a difference a day makes. The house that my sister was going to buy and was sold to someone else, fell back into her lap today when the other people got buyer’s remorse.

    So I guess there is some justice in that the real estate agent who screwed her over didn’t get what she wanted.

    And, naturally, I being my first full week of vacation/unemployment by catching a cold that’s been going around.

    • Greg says:

      Oh, you were the one who was cursing estate agents yesterday.

      • Pat D says:

        Yep. My sister and brother-in-law got screwed by this agent, but then the other people said no, so now the place is theirs.

        • jjyank says:

          Glad it worked out for them though. Sorry to hear about your cold, but I hope you’re enjoying the time off otherwise.

          • Pat D says:

            Well applying for unemployment was a pain in the ass. We were given information to enter that didn’t match what the application asked for. Then I got a call this morning asking me about the severance package we’re going to receive.

            You’re expected to do all this shit now to prove that you’re looking for a job, though you probably never have to present it to someone. It’s really seeming like I’ll have to put in more work getting unemployment than as if I actually had a job.

            I mean, don’t take any time deciding what kind of job you want or if you want to go back to school for something, nope. Be out there applying for whatever piece of shit job is out there. All this shit went into effect this year. I have our honorable governor (anything but after his interjection in the Penn State stuff) and state legislature to thank for this shit.

  94. Bob Stone says:

    I received some negative comments about the Grantland blog article complaining about pessimists.

    Just to clarify, I have voted in every Fan Ccofidence Poll this year and voted 9 every single week.

    The Yankees are the best team in the American League with the possible exception of Texas.

    I just thought the article was well written with good facts. The view that I share with that article is that Yankee pitching is adequate (so we can’t count on just shutting every team down) and the overall RISP Fail is not helpful in what most agree is a crap-shoot when it comes to the playoffs.

    • jjyank says:

      We (at least I) was responding to the article, not you. But CC-Kuroda-Pettitte is pretty good, if the playoffs started today. Not amazing, but when you write an article like that in June, it’s hard to know what will happen in October. I just thought it was kind of dumb.

      • Bob Stone says:

        I agree on the timing and the headline, but the few real flaws on the Yankees team were well presented and well documented with stats.

        • jjyank says:

          I also don’t count RISPFAIL as a flaw.

          • Mike N says:

            I don’t, either. I consider it random chance, and their BA with RISP will trend back towards their overall BA (which, admittedly, is not so great).

            • Need Pitching says:

              I’d agree with that to an extent, but I think it’s gone beyond just random chance. There have been plenty of RISP PA’s where the hitter was over anxious and had bad approaches to the AB.

              I’d say the RISPfail has definitely been a flaw to some degree for the past almost 2 months. The questions I’d have would be:

              Is it likely to continue for the rest of the season? (statistically highly unlikely, I would think, at least to the same degree. I’d fully expect at least some degree of positive regression).

              Also, if the RISPfail does continue, are the other aspects of the Yankees team (power, pitching) good enough to overcome the RISPfail? (I’d guess at least good enough to make the playoffs)

  95. Manny's BanWagon says:

    Kuroda really made ass dribble look bad there.

  96. Cy Pettitte says:

    I’m still not convinced this guy can pitch in the AL.

  97. Brian S. says:

    Kuroda can’t handle the AL

  98. Robinson Tilapia says:

    My Red Sox fan friend from work just had the nerve to text me a pic of the championship banners at Boston Garden with the caption “Two titles? How cute, Heat.”

    Not only have the Heat been in existence for only 24 years, but should any Boston sports fan ever be trying to one-up someone who they know is a Yankees fan with number of championships?

    Thank god she’s kind of cute in a nerdy way.

    • Pat D says:

      That would annoy me. Most females I know that have an interest in sports really don’t know much about them.

      I remember being at a friend’s house several years ago and one girl who was there was like, “I always think you should root for the teams where you live.” My friend who hosted this shindig almost kicked her out of the house, because he completely rejects that idea and believes it is the sign of someone who isn’t really a sports fan.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I actually know some real diehards. I have a friend who can talk Mets baseball with the best of them. My wife also tries her best, unhealthy Melky and Matsui obsessions aside (actually, the porn thing ruined her on Matsui.)

        This one does alright with her Boston sports stuff. She’s just immensely fun to needle.

      • Bob Stone says:

        Living just north of Boston, I can tell you that there are a lot of female “pink hats” rooting for the BoSox ever since 2004 when it became “trendy” to root for the team.

        Before you accuse me of being a total male chauvinist pig, I know a lot of MALE “pink hats” up here too.

        The funny thing is that all the expert TV and radio commentators always talk about how much more knowledgeable baseball fans are in Boston, Philly and New York than any other markets. At least in Boston, that statement has become diluted by the “pink Hats” since 2004 and 2007.

    • Manny's BanWagon says:

      This is a baseball blog and I propose that LBJ and the hideous site of him and the Heat winning a championship never again be mentioned on these pages.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I’m sorry he didn’t come play for Knicks like everyone decided he was going to, other than him.

        They are, however, my favorite NBA team for the entire 24 years of their existence.

        • Manny's BanWagon says:

          As a Knicks fan, this pretty much pushed me over the edge. I’m done with the NBA probably until his reign of terror comes to an end.

        • Manny's BanWagon says:

          And I don’t hate him because he turned down the Knicks but because I think he cheapened winning a championship by stacking the deck.

          Imagine if Bird left the Celts to team up with the Lakers or if Jordan and Barkley went to Portland to play with Denver. To me, that’s what LBJ and Bosh did.

          • Manny's BanWagon says:

            Drexler not Denver.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            Imagine if the Yankees signed Mark Teixeira and CC Sabathia the same off-season and won the championship that very year.

            The stacking the deck stuff is single biggest piece of bullshit I’ve ever heard and is actually the antethesis of what a Yankee fan should be saying. We all know that, no matter who the personnel is, you still have to actually play the game and that it’s not the names on the backs of the jersey that win you ballgames. That team still had deficiencies and holes they had to overcome, just like the Yankees do.

            Let’s move on to happier stuff, MBW. :)

            • jjyank says:

              Slightly unrelated, but I love how AJ Burnett is left of this list now :P

              Actually, I don’t love it. But you know what I mean.

            • Manny's BanWagon says:

              That’s fact not BS.

              Adding Tex and CC on a 25 man baseball roster when any one players impact is very limited is a hell of a lot different than adding Wade, Bosh and LBJ to an NBA team where 6 guys probably play 90% of the teams minutes.

              The equivalent would be if Kemp , Braun, Kershaw, Hamilton, Votto and Strasburg were FA’s and all conspired to sign with the Yankees.

              Glad you’re happy with the title but LBJ took the pussy way out

    • Bob Stone says:

      I live just north of Boston as a Yankee fan and have since 1989.

      Prior to 2004, I would just laugh at my Red Sox friends and acquaintances and say “wait until October”. But 2004 was so chastening that I am a little more circumspect abou the rivalry now.

      • Manny's BanWagon says:

        That was probably the first time in most of our lifetimes that the Sux really drew blood. I never hated them until that point and actually rooted for them against the Mets in 86.

        • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

          1986 must have sucked. I’m glad I wasn’t alive to experience it.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            Imagine, just out of fucking nowhere, you’re suddenly the only kid in class with a Yankee hat on when EVERYONE was wearing one just yesterday. That was 1986.

      • Mike N says:

        Ugh. 2004 was miserable. I remember guffawing after it became 3-1, chuckling after it became 3-2, nervously snickering after it became 3-3, and then wanting to gouge my own eyes out.

  99. Mike N says:

    Is it really within the rules for this pitcher to pause so long on his windup?

  100. Brian S. says:

    Who is John Barnes?

  101. Cy Pettitte says:

    nice night for Wise.

  102. Robinson Tilapia says:


  103. Pat D says:

    Dewayne Wise getting two XBH’s means you’re winning.

    And, yea, I thought he was out.

  104. TampaYankee says:

    My man Wise!!!!

    Wahoo!!! I am loving this game so far!

  105. Brian S. says:

    He was out but that was awesome.

  106. Andy says:

    He looked out without the replay

  107. Mike N says:

    Is anyone else on this page getting a pop-up dialog box asking for a username and password from Sitemeter?

  108. DERP says:

    Betances faced Daniel Cabrera tonight. Thought that was funny.

  109. Bob Stone says:

    YES – I am as well.

  110. Brian S. says:

    lol Chris Stewart. lol our catchers. They better be framing the shit out of our pitches this season.

  111. Itishighitisfaritisgonerightyouarejohn says:

    Girardi new boy
    Wisie had a good game.

  112. Bob Stone says:

    Respond fail – meant this to go in reply to Mike N.

  113. DERP says:

    I’m hoping we see Rapada today.

  114. DERP says:

    Kuroda xFIP at 3.99.

  115. Itishighitisfaritisgonerightyouarejohn says:

    Chavez showing some range there huh?

  116. Need Pitching says:

    nice play, Jete

  117. DERP says:

    That was nice.

  118. Adam says:

    Garcia 8th or 9th? He is practically the only bullpen-ite who hasn’t played the last two days.

  119. Brian S. says:

    Final line in Dellin Betances tonight was 3 ip, 5 h, 7 r/er, 4 bb, 4 k. All over the place.


  120. Tom Zig says:

    Dewayne Wise has the 2 hardest parts of the cycle done. Now if he can somehow manage to get a single & double.

  121. Dela G says:

    kuroda is straight dealing

  122. Greg says:

    By the way, Henderson Alvarez left with an injury, The 4th Blue Jays pitcher to leave with an injury in about a week and a half

  123. DERP says:

    Henderson Alvarez left the game with an apparent arm injury. Can’t make this up.

  124. TampaYankee says:

    Just saw on ESPN DJ says he wants to be an owner of a team.

    He retires, joins Yankees higher ups, buys Yankees when Hal and Hank get sick of it?


    • Pat D says:

      He and ARod pool some money together, get a group of wealthy people behind them, like Nolan with the Rangers and Magic with the Dodgers.

      Why not?

  125. Itishighitisfaritisgonerightyouarejohn says:

    What do you guys think about astros chris snyder as a pick up. Better than stewartt?

  126. Andy says:

    Rapada is Gollum

  127. Adam says:

    Boy I am glad that Paulie was referencing the Jim Carey movie and not the Cher one…

  128. Mike N says:

    I like this story about pitchers in the OF bullpen throwing sunflower seeds at the outfielders.

  129. Bob Stone says:

    Awright Blue Jays – 9-5 over the BoSox in the 7th and its starting to rain harder.

  130. Mike N says:


  131. CBean says:

    Ow poor Tex

  132. Bob Stone says:

    The tarp is out in Fenway! Keep Raining!!

  133. Brian S. says:

    So who is coming in?

  134. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Four Roses. Maple bitters. Simple syrup.

    Probable victory drink.

  135. Greg says:

    Nice play

  136. CBean says:

    Wow that should’ve scored the run

  137. Mike N says:

    Another good play!

  138. Andy says:

    What a grin

  139. Mike N says:

    Oye Como Va!

  140. Mike N says:

    ANOTHER!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahah!

  141. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Swisher needs to be disciplined. There’s no room for smiling in baseball. None.

  142. jjyank says:

    Swish looking good in RF tonight. Awesome.

  143. Betty Lizard says:

    To paraphrase Dora Carington:

    “I watch Swisher when I’m happy because he makes me happier.”

  144. Tom says:

    Comfortable win, TB down big, Boston down 4 and stuck in a rain delay, StL losing (I just can’t stand StL for some reason) = nice night.

    • Bob Stone says:

      Agree completely. I’ve hated St. Louis since they swept the Yankees in the 1964 World Series. That was awful.

  145. Mike N says:


  146. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I believe the Yankees are now in first place in the AL Central.


  147. So, just got home in time to see the final out, and read through the thread from leaving till the end…I love easy wins.
    1 Athenian post
    0 Stuart a posts
    0 (718) Bronx posts
    0 thaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin posts
    0 Widget posts

    • jjyank says:

      It’s glorious, isn’t it? I mean, the threads have less posts in them, but it’s worth it without the trolls.

  148. Just saw the replay of Wise’s triple, two things. 1. He was out by about a foot 2. Him and Gardner are the only two on the team that make it even that close.

  149. Dela G says:

    great win

  150. Greg says:

    By the way, you thought the Soriano signing was bad. The Heath Bell contract has been abysmal. He just blew a 4 run lead to the Cradinals in the ninth.

  151. OMG! Bagels! says:

    I love a troll free game thread.

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