Game 72: HOPE
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(Photo via Yankees P.R. on Twitter)
The Yankees kick off the 2012 installment of HOPE Week today, beginning with Flying Manes, a “nonprofit organization dedicated to helping individuals with physical and emotional disabilities by providing therapeutic horse riding instruction.” Chad Jennings has the full details. Here’s the lineup…
SS Derek Jeter
DH Curtis Granderson
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Robinson Cano
RF Nick Swisher
LF Raul Ibanez
3B Eric Chavez
CF Dewayne Wise
C Chris Stewart
RHP Hiroki Kuroda
Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and ESPN2 nationally. It was raining quite hard earlier this afternoon, but the forecast doesn’t look to bad for tonight. Enjoy.
Russell Martin Update: Martin (stiff back) is feeling better but is not quite ready to return to the lineup just yet. He’s available in case of emergency tonight.
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Will Middlebrooks: Great 3rd baseman or Greatest 3rd baseman?
That joke comes from somewhere? I forget where it comes from.
Stephen Colbert.
That’s right
nothing quite as graceful as ibanez settling under a high fly ball
Little late to the party. Damn commute.
Bring it Hirok.
I laugh at the Detriot Tigers…a team that is in the negative mid 40s in run differential is leading the division the Tigers were supposed to have runaway and hid with by now.
how are the tigers not leading the central? underperforming offense or bad pitching or both?
I’m too lazy to look it up, but even before the season, their offense was basically Miggy, Fielder, and friends. I know Fister got injured too.
Offense to this point has been Miggy and Fielder and that’s it.
Bullpen has been iffy, especially Valverde.
The Tigers are pretty top heavy from what I’ve seen. Their best players are otherworldly (Cabrera, Prince, Verlander) but they don’t have much of a supporting cast.
I think the White Sox are much more of a problem for the Tigers than the Indians are. The Indians will probably end up below .500 unless something significantly changes about their team, so if the Tigers don’t make the playoffs it’ll probably be mostly due to the White Sox and the fact that the Tigers aren’t actually that good.
Yeah even if the offseason I thought they were being massively overrated.
Them and the Angels. And the Marlins.
I think the Angels are very good…they’ve got a great starting staff, also with Trout acting like he’s been doing this for a decade already their offense is a force to be reckoned with.
They really have 3 All Stars, and then a bunch of so-so major leaguers. Their team is Verlander, Miggy, and Prince.
I mean -FORTY in run differential and leading the division. How is that even possible?
Colby Rasmus hits a 2 run homer off Doubront to give the Jays a 2-0 lead
GO JAYS!
Error by Middlebrooks. Heh.
I really really hope that Youkilis goes on a crazy tear for the rest of the season while WMB falls flat on his face.
except of course thise weekend in the bronx
First defensive chance of the Middlebrooks era results in an E5.
Gameday must be broken, they’re telling me that Jeter took the first pitch?
Anyone hear Francesa today? He kept saying that you “need the big hit” to win in the postseason.
The problem with that logic is that he assumed because of the RISPfail that the Yankees would have trouble doing that. But our homers have been in pretty big spots, and we’re getting PLENTY of big hits. Consider:
. A NINE RUN comeback against the Red Sox
. A-Rod’s 8th inning game tying grand slam
. The two homers in game 2 of the subway series that got us in the lead down an 0-3 hole
. Cano’s homer yesterday
. Russel Martin’s walk-off home run
The whole “the Yankees have RISPfail, thus they aren’t clutch” thing is a total myth.
I agree. RISPFAIL is damn frustrating, for sure, but this team has a runner in scoring position in almost every single at bat. And like you said, some of those homers have come in pretty big spots.
I am also of the school of thought that it is likely easier to hit one mistake pitch out of the park against a good pitcher than it is to string together a sustained rally.
Thank you for saying that. RISP is a stat head’s heroin – a real buzz but not much else.
Warning, I’m in a douchey mood tonight. Don’t know why, but I might say some ridiculous shit tonight, and completely bash any trolls…
I really hope stuart a or dan l comes back for the game thread.
Stuart A isn’t coming by tonight, the guy who killed his dog isn’t playing.
DO IT!
The crew is talking about the “too many homers” thing again. I understand that the counter-claim here is that while it’s harder to hit homers off good pitchers in the postseason, it’s even harder-er to get a sequence of hits off good pitchers. I would tend to believe that, but are there analyses or studies that actually show this? I’d love to have an article handy to be able to reference whenever this subject comes up.
Honestly, just go back to the games we’ve won off of Shields, Price, Verlander, Santana, Dickey, Johan, the list goes on, we’ve beaten them by going yard.
Sure, that’s why I don’t believe the “too many homers” thing. But that’s just anecdotal evidence from one team in one year. It would be good to have a general answer to the question of “Do teams that rely more on homers do better, equal, or worse against good pitchers than teams that hit fewer homers but score as many runs?”
That’s a massive undertaking…if I ever feel up to doing a whole lot of research, I would definitely like to know and do a write up on it…but since Axisa gets paid to do such things, we should ask him to do it.
OH MIKE!!
Well, I was hoping someone had already done an analysis like that, since Mike and others have made that counter-claim confidently. Again, I tend to believe it, but it would be nice to see some data behind the counter-claim.
The problem is there are a lot of variables that go into it…
What constitutes a team that relies on the homer?
What constitutes a team that scores runs in other ways (because they’re still going to hit homers)
What constitutes a great pitcher?
What about pitchers that aren’t great but don’t give up homers?
What about pitchers that are good but do give up homers?
Doesn’t need to be too complicated. For example, you can simplify it to two variables: team’s reliance on homers (say, % of runs scored via home run), and quality of opposing pitcher (say, ERA or FIP or whatever). Then just look at how those two variables predict runs scored.
Sure, there are different ways to do the analysis, but you could get a decent answer by doing a simple analysis like this.
Okay, it looks like this has in fact been done: http://mlb.si.com/2012/06/25/n.....runs-risp/ (pretty similar to what I suggested) — original article is behind a paywall (http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=17470).
The key part is the paragraph that starts with: “Indeed, the data shows that teams reliant upon the home run actually fare better in the postseason than those who don’t.”
Jeter and Grandy are making this guy work.
Tex too…He’s thrown 26 pitches and has one out to show for it.
damn … that ball was smoked
im not expecting any runs here, but at least they are working the pitcher
wow, that was awesome
A Ruben Sierra-esk single.
9 pitch at bat for Jeter, 10 pitch walk by Granderson, 7 pitches to Tex to start the game. 26 pitches, 1 out in the 1st. Pretty sweet.
God damnit Robbie. I love ya, but why are you trying to get to third there…
Haha, still angry, but a lot less so, I thought that was the third out for some reason.
Even when Cano gets a hit with RISP, he still messes up!1!1!!!!
RISPHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually the wildness of Kipnis’s throw helped the Indians.
If that’s throw’s online to the plate, I don’t think they get Cano at third.
Was it up the third base line? that’s the only way I could see an off line throw helping. (PS, listening on the radio)
Yep. It was uo the third base line
but if the throw was online to the plate, I think they do get Tex
That could be true too
never saw that commercial, they really know how to wow people here in ny
He’s just so lazy.
nice play, Robbie
just put yesterday’s defense behind you
Ump is not calling the outside corner tonight
Robbie on fire!
I know David Ortiz is a DH and if he goes to the Hall then Edgar Martinez should go to the Hall.
But Edgar Martinez doesn’t have any rings so that should work in Papi’s favor.
I’m saying this because he hit a 2 run homer against Henderson Alvarez to cut the Jays lead in half/
Papi might have more power than Edgar, but Edgar was a better hitter all around than Papi.
Edgar had a better overall average, that’s for sure.
Papi is one of the few left handed hitters who can go against the shift at will. He goes the other way alot.
Just musing
Ortiz is not even close… doesn’t have the counting stats.
And pending the outcome of his investgation into his failed drug test (he must really be thoroughly researching the results), that also hurts him big time.
Marginal stats + PED taint…. usually means no chance (even with the Red Sox love by the NESPN). Even without the failed drug test, he probably wasn’t close.
That’s what you think. But ESPN will get their propoganda on and get him in.
I understand you’re a Yankee fan and hate the Red Sox, so do I, but a .284/.380/.546 career slash and almost 400 career homers aren’t marginal…By the time he retires he’ll probably have hit 450, as well as over 500 doubles…that’s gotta be at least heavy consideration.
he’ll get some votes, but Edgar was definitely better
and technically 450 HR for an all bat player would definitely be considered marginal for HOF, especially in steroid era
I agree, If Edgar isn’t/doesn’t get in, then Papi shouldn’t even sniff the ballot.
Agreed totally. But I thought the same thing about Jim Rice, so…
Even if Edgar gets in, Ortiz shouldn’t sniff the HOF and 400 HR’s is marginal by HOF standards.
400 Hr’s in the greatest offensive era in baseball… Andruw Jones has 427 HR’s and is a 10 time (?) gold glover – and even he might not be a slam dunk. Carlos Delgado has 473 HR’s, Juan Gonzalez 434 (though that was probably chemically enhanced), Vlad 449. And these guys brought other skills.
This isn’t about Red Sox hatred – when all you do is hit, you need to be exceptional, and do it for a long period of time. He had a tremendous 5 year stretch at the end of the steroid era and has a failed drug test in that timeframe.
37.5 fWAR? (typically 60 is fingish HOF) Edgar was a better hitter (wOBA, wRC+) and put up ~70fWAR (which give you an idea of both the longevity and the hitting quality)
Let’s not forget that Ortiz was busted for PEDs.
“I’ll look into to it…”
I hate how Ortiz got a free pass after that and nobody seems to give a crap. Yet Red Sox fans love to hate on A-Rod for it. Funny.
Unrelated, but you’re a Yankee fan in Vermont? I only ask because I went to undergrad there and I freaking love that state.
If Ortiz gets in then the best course of action is to burn Cooperstown to the ground and start a new one.
I would lend you my pitchfork and torch.
Both belong in the HOF.
First game of the series, pitcher at 35 pitches after 1 inning, let’s see if the offense can avoid the Chris Stewart AB’s and get into the bullpen early and often. (and not give up outs on the bases)
Great ab by Chavy
5 dollars Wise tries to bunt his way on.
GIMME MY MONEY!
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK?
\http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZomwVcGt0LE&feature=player_detailpage
Sorry it was supposed to be Stewie beating up Brian for his money
hahaha, I know that scene well.
It is indeed a great one. Seasons 1-5 in Family Guy are pure gold.
or NOT!
How did Cleveland blow a 3-1 lead in the 2007 ALCS again?
Wise?? Nice
Well you know you suck when….
First RISPHIT and now YARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wise choice to play Dewayne today
WIse??
i think wise just pipp’d granderson there
oh, i forgot he is dh’ing, i don’t think it counts
Well, that was unexpected.
…Dewayne Wise just homered? I like this game.
Look at Granderson, ummmm, Wise?
DEWAYNE
woo woo!
Too many homers
Did anyone hear Sterling’s call?
What was it?
“And the other black guy gets a home run! What’s his name again Suzyn?”
OH-HO, THAT’S A WISE MAN!!
I wish I was kidding btw…I really do…
That’s bad even for him
They would have been better off playing this song.
….and he had a while to fine tune that.
Did he make one up on the spot?
No, I’m sure Sterling stays up late at night during Spring Training thinking of a call for every player on the 40 man.
I wonder if he has one for Sabathia.
I though with the end of interleague, the pitcher no longer batted?
#FreeCervelli (yeah I went there!)
Free might still be too expensive.
If free is to expensive for Cervelli, than Stewart should be paying us to play.
He isn’t? I thought this was one of those adult fantasy camp situations.
Nice!
well at least Jeter is making him throw a lot of pitches, so there’s that
I like this game so far.
It’s been above average.
So…how many games has Michael Kay been waiting to break out the Wise choice play on words?
You know he’s been chortling over it since spring training.
Chortle. Nice.
I bet Hiroki is thinking “WTF! Where did that zero go under ‘NYY: R’ sign??!!”
Jump throw!
Love me some of that play.
Suzyn just called out The Yankee fans as ignorant “half the people here don’t know anybody on this team(referring to the Indians)” Asdrubal is probably the best hitting SS in the AL, Sin Su Choo is a great RF, and Santana
then in right after John calls out those who say Jeter doesn’t have any range, saying they don’t actually watch the games…because Jeter made one above average play (I’m only listening, but I’m going to guess an average SS makes that play almost easily)
I hate these two…they need to go to that retirement home they’re always advertising for.
Hell, outside of Choo, Santana, Masterson, Cabrera, and Shelley (for obvious reasons), I barely know any of these guys too.
That’s still over a third of their starting line up, a member of their starting staff, and the best bench player ever…that’s pretty good for a team that we see a handful of players a year.
Yeah, but only 20% of their MLB roster. Actually, I know about Perez too, so 6/25.
and Damon. that’s over 25%
Damn it fine, you win
Sterling, half the time, has no idea who is on the Yankees or how many strikes/balls/out there are. When will she call him out?
That whole “people who disagree with me must not actually watch the games” thing is such fucking bullshit. I WATCH THE GAMES, ASSHOLE. Lots of people who disagree with you watch the games, and I daresay they understand what they’re seeing a hell of a lot better than you do.
I can’t count the number of times that I’ve been watching the game, cause you know I’m a baseball and Yankee fan, and I’ve seen a ball hit to the SS side of second and thought “nice a nice easy ground ball ou…GOD DAMNIT, HOW IS THAT A BASE HIT, ANY SHORT STOP GETS TO THAT BALL”
If they’re feeling especially generous they might say “well maybe he doesn’t have the range to make the incredibly flashy play, but he makes every ROUTINE play.”
Cut to Jeter not making a routine play, then crickets.
I like Kuroda.
Dotel has to be one of them right?
Nope, he’s been with 6.
Chili Davis
Not him either, He’s only been with 4.
Most non-chalant home run call ever
The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!
CANO!!!!!!!!!!
This game has been very enjoyable.
Can we make this game Kuroda-blow-up proof?
Hiroki has been solid since May began.
They were talking about his homeruns right before he hits a homerun. Very cool.
O’Neil’s reaction was hilarious.
“Robbie’s been swinging a real hot bat lately, hitting home runs…..*Cano homers*…and there’s another one.”
The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!
The Yankees look confident and comfortable to be home. Go Cano!
Robbie wants to be first in the AL in home runs.
God damn it Robbie’s swing is so, so beautiful. I just can’t get over it sometimes.
way too many HRs.
Cano is so fucking lazy, he only hits homers so he can just jog the base path.
stupid stat padder…
AND BELLY TA BELLY!
SWISH!!
Found one of them: Ruben Sierra
Rangers, A’s, Yankees, Tigers, Blue Jays, White Sox, Mariners and Twins
I heard ANYONE can be in first place in the AL Central.
Let’s get a team together. I can play a pretty solid third.
I want to play second base.
And I can throw hard. I don’t have shit for a breaking ball, but I bet I could blow my fastball by some people.
I can pick it at first almost as well as Tex. But not really
Ok, now we just need a Shortstop, Outfield, and Catcher.
I could be a catcher just as good as Chris Stewart!
Boom. Catcher. Can anyone here get good routes in the outfield?
I can’t play baseball for shit. I’ll be TilapiaMONEY, the GM.
I’m starting to get offended that Greg hasn’t chosen a position yet.
Also, I volunteer Erica for leftfield, and Betty Lizard as Martin’s “understudy.”
“Under” being the operative word there.
/snicker
understudy. I’m sure she’ll love that. Also, Erica in LF is great she’ll get to check out my sweet butt.
Okay, your FIP went up by a full point with that comment.
in this case is FIP going up a good thing, or bad? I’m still confused about that.
too many homers again
Ro may get his/her wish (from an earlier thread):
Ro says:
June 25, 2012 at 12:48 pm
Jesus Christmas..Can we please have a blow out win tonight or tomorrow.
Hahaha I was thinking the same thing (see my comment below).
This is hilarious. I came on here just to post something about that too.
So I know the rain pushed batting practice back, does anyone know when batting practice ends and the game starts?
Piling it on now! Where was that guy this morning that was complaining that the Yankees haven’t had any blowouts? I wish he would make that complaint more often.
i usually dislike Monday night games, tonight, it’s enjoyable.
I can’t believe the Indians are tied for first. Can we just obliterate the entire AL Central please?
Kinda a repeat of Tilapia’s comment above…
Yankees horsing around again.
If I remember right, the Yankees seemed to always go into a 2-3 game hitting funk after facing Wakefield. No post-knuckler funk here.
Sorry guys, Yankees are only allowed to score 2 runs per inning this game.
I’m cool with that.
No. They will never be able to do that in the playoffs. They need to score all 6 runs in one inning.
It’s a mercy rule that’s in effect, as long as our pitcher isn’t allowing a run there’s a two run cap per inning on us…it’s in the new CBAy (Collective Bargaining Against the Yankees)
I know it’s basically marketing bullshit, but I get the sense that the Yanks themselves who participate in the community outreach stuff with underprivileged, sick, or disabled kids really do care, don’t begrudge their time, and enjoy making kids happy.
(But I’m a die-hard Yankee fan, so of course I think that.)
This HOPE week stuff is awesome. Such a cool story that the kids didn’t even know that Yankee players would show up, and then in walks Teixeira, one of the kid’s favorite player.
Here is an interesting article From A blog called Heartland.
It summarizes my concerns completely and it hits the nail on the head.
The link is:
http://www.grantland.com/blog/.....yre-doomed
Sorry, I read the titled and stopped right there.
*title
did the exact same thing
Yep. How many times do we say “you can’t predict baseball, Suzyn”? This is a first place team, and a first place team that was supposed to be a first place team. They’re not overachieving. And yet their doomed? Sure, there are some concerns down the road, but how the hell does any blogger know the Yankees are doomed without the benefit of a crystal ball to tell the future?
If you use the words “doom” and “Yankees” in the same sentence, I no longer take you seriously.
I wish I did as well
Actually read the article…it’s basically the company line, RISPFAIL and TOO MANY HOMERS will eventually catch up with the team, CC is only an ace if w give him an “optimistic assessment”
” My fellow Yankee pessimists know how this story ends; the home runs dry up against superior playoff pitchers, the woeful RISP hitting continues, and the Yankees lose in the divisional round for the fifth time in their last seven postseasons.” That’s the last paragraph, and the entire article summed up in one sentence.
Even Greg is more optimistic than this guy.
For the 1000000000th time, we’ve already beat some of the best pitcher in baseball, including Verlander, Price and Shields (3 guys we would face en route to the WS) by HITTING HOME RUNS. It’s hard to build rallies against good pitchers, every pitcher in every game makes mistakes, the way to beat them is to take extreme advantages of those few mistakes.
Preaching to the choir here. Besides the ridiculously arrogant assessment that “dooms” the Yankees when they are a team that makes the post season every year. The playoffs are a crapshoot, we all know that. But they are “doomed” to make the playoffs every year? That’s insane. Anything that happens after that is mostly luck and timing. How many teams have won the World Series that were not even in the top 3 most talented of all playoff teams that respective year?
It’s easier to be negative – you don’t have to think.
Lol, when it comes to the Yankees I feel it takes more energy and thought to be positive, rather then looking for reasons and thinking about why they must be terrible at some point.
Yep. And also, only someone completely ignorant would make a prediction before the All-Star break concerning whether any team is going to get knocked-out in the first round of the playoffs. There’s just no way to know what’s gonna happen, the best predictor of future performance is past performance, and the Yanks are currently one of two teams in the majors with a winning percentage over .600.
Yea, as soon as I saw the title, I just skimmed through it and said, “Eh, fuck this.”
Feel bad for Kuroda tonight. The ump has taken away the outside of the plate for both pitchers which takes away his sinking fastball to lefties
It must be terrible to be up 6-0 after five innings.
You’ve now been benched on our team.
Francesa’s probably hoping for a furious Indians comeback here, otherwise he’ll have to do a show tomorrow about all the awesome Yankee homers. He doesn’t want that.
“Yeah, hitting too many homers are bad, except when…ya know, they’re good?”
You’re right, he wants nothing to do with that show.
Settle down Hiroki.
Nice work by Kuroda. Would be nice if they could tack on a few more and let Kuroda toss a few more than have Freddy finish it so the whole pen gets a day off.
Definitely a Freddy kind of game
Definitely a Freddy kind of game
Not until it goes to 8. But I just never liked Freddy ever.
I think Freddy can handle six. And if they score 2-3 runs, bring in someone else.
What happened to the espn2 feed?
I don’t care the Yanks are winning 6-0. They got 4 of them by homeruns so they don’t count.
/followthenarrative
But it’s the stadium’s fault. It’s not their fault. If it wasn’t for this stupid stadium, they’d be doubles.
I know Mike wrote about this earlier today, but for the love of God, give Derek a day off, he’s worse than his pre-DL self right now…That hard liner excluded.
Trevor Plouffe. I want this guy. Can play multiple positions and can mash a bit
Hahaha I laughed. Bravo for referencing the old handle.
I’m not kidding. Want him for the bench.
Greg…no, I’d have to root against a Yankee and I never want to have to do that.
At least you could change your handle back!
I’ve read his defense is awful. His BB rates are very low, and his power surge is a fluke. Never had more than 15 HRs in AAA.
Hahaha.
Yeah, Jeter definitely needs a good 2 full days off.
Jeets. WTF.
Poor Jeter getting screwed by BABIP.
FYI, I posted above that I found what I was looking for in terms of debunking the “too many homers” this, but I’ll post it here too:
http://mlb.si.com/2012/06/25/n.....runs-risp/ (pretty similar to what I suggested) — original article is behind a paywall (http://www.baseballprospectus......leid=17470).
The key part is the paragraph that starts with: “Indeed, the data shows that teams reliant upon the home run actually fare better in the postseason than those who don’t.”
Very interesting. Thanks for finding those!
Sounds about in line with my own views.
Nice finds Mr. Sojo.
CHOO CHOO!!!!
I knew we’d get around to food sooner or later.
jjyank you haven’t answered me so I’m moving the question down here, is FIP going up a good or bad thing in reference to it’s new meaning?
Haha sorry, I forgot to scroll back up. It’s a bad thing, like FIP in it’s actual sense. You started out with a FIP of like 1.5. I think you went up a couple weeks ago to a 3 or so, but I’m thinking more like 4.5 after that.
Think Kuroda is going to end up on the DL due to shock that the Yankees scored more than 2 runs for him.
*heart attack*
You’re……here. Did you check the score? Is your TV upside down tonight, Athenian?
I think somebody just stole his password
I was just thinking it was probably going to be a troll-deficient night, but one popped in anyway.
At this point the Blue Jays and Red Sox are mirror images of each other.
Both can hit but their pitching is left to be desired. Remember we play these teams the most in the second half
16 times left against each team, though 4 of the Boston games are right before the break.
What a difference a day makes. The house that my sister was going to buy and was sold to someone else, fell back into her lap today when the other people got buyer’s remorse.
So I guess there is some justice in that the real estate agent who screwed her over didn’t get what she wanted.
And, naturally, I being my first full week of vacation/unemployment by catching a cold that’s been going around.
Oh, you were the one who was cursing estate agents yesterday.
Yep. My sister and brother-in-law got screwed by this agent, but then the other people said no, so now the place is theirs.
Glad it worked out for them though. Sorry to hear about your cold, but I hope you’re enjoying the time off otherwise.
Well applying for unemployment was a pain in the ass. We were given information to enter that didn’t match what the application asked for. Then I got a call this morning asking me about the severance package we’re going to receive.
You’re expected to do all this shit now to prove that you’re looking for a job, though you probably never have to present it to someone. It’s really seeming like I’ll have to put in more work getting unemployment than as if I actually had a job.
I mean, don’t take any time deciding what kind of job you want or if you want to go back to school for something, nope. Be out there applying for whatever piece of shit job is out there. All this shit went into effect this year. I have our honorable governor (anything but after his interjection in the Penn State stuff) and state legislature to thank for this shit.
I received some negative comments about the Grantland blog article complaining about pessimists.
Just to clarify, I have voted in every Fan Ccofidence Poll this year and voted 9 every single week.
The Yankees are the best team in the American League with the possible exception of Texas.
I just thought the article was well written with good facts. The view that I share with that article is that Yankee pitching is adequate (so we can’t count on just shutting every team down) and the overall RISP Fail is not helpful in what most agree is a crap-shoot when it comes to the playoffs.
We (at least I) was responding to the article, not you. But CC-Kuroda-Pettitte is pretty good, if the playoffs started today. Not amazing, but when you write an article like that in June, it’s hard to know what will happen in October. I just thought it was kind of dumb.
I agree on the timing and the headline, but the few real flaws on the Yankees team were well presented and well documented with stats.
I also don’t count RISPFAIL as a flaw.
I don’t, either. I consider it random chance, and their BA with RISP will trend back towards their overall BA (which, admittedly, is not so great).
I’d agree with that to an extent, but I think it’s gone beyond just random chance. There have been plenty of RISP PA’s where the hitter was over anxious and had bad approaches to the AB.
I’d say the RISPfail has definitely been a flaw to some degree for the past almost 2 months. The questions I’d have would be:
Is it likely to continue for the rest of the season? (statistically highly unlikely, I would think, at least to the same degree. I’d fully expect at least some degree of positive regression).
Also, if the RISPfail does continue, are the other aspects of the Yankees team (power, pitching) good enough to overcome the RISPfail? (I’d guess at least good enough to make the playoffs)
Kuroda really made ass dribble look bad there.
I’m still not convinced this guy can pitch in the AL.
Kuroda can’t handle the AL
Greg feels very sad for him tonight.
No I felt sorry at the time because the ump was squeezing the plate for both pitchers. He’s worked around it though
As long as you’re happy, we’re all happy.
My Red Sox fan friend from work just had the nerve to text me a pic of the championship banners at Boston Garden with the caption “Two titles? How cute, Heat.”
Not only have the Heat been in existence for only 24 years, but should any Boston sports fan ever be trying to one-up someone who they know is a Yankees fan with number of championships?
Thank god she’s kind of cute in a nerdy way.
That would annoy me. Most females I know that have an interest in sports really don’t know much about them.
I remember being at a friend’s house several years ago and one girl who was there was like, “I always think you should root for the teams where you live.” My friend who hosted this shindig almost kicked her out of the house, because he completely rejects that idea and believes it is the sign of someone who isn’t really a sports fan.
I actually know some real diehards. I have a friend who can talk Mets baseball with the best of them. My wife also tries her best, unhealthy Melky and Matsui obsessions aside (actually, the porn thing ruined her on Matsui.)
This one does alright with her Boston sports stuff. She’s just immensely fun to needle.
Living just north of Boston, I can tell you that there are a lot of female “pink hats” rooting for the BoSox ever since 2004 when it became “trendy” to root for the team.
Before you accuse me of being a total male chauvinist pig, I know a lot of MALE “pink hats” up here too.
The funny thing is that all the expert TV and radio commentators always talk about how much more knowledgeable baseball fans are in Boston, Philly and New York than any other markets. At least in Boston, that statement has become diluted by the “pink Hats” since 2004 and 2007.
This is a baseball blog and I propose that LBJ and the hideous site of him and the Heat winning a championship never again be mentioned on these pages.
I’m sorry he didn’t come play for Knicks like everyone decided he was going to, other than him.
They are, however, my favorite NBA team for the entire 24 years of their existence.
As a Knicks fan, this pretty much pushed me over the edge. I’m done with the NBA probably until his reign of terror comes to an end.
Well, then you and the Knicks are on the same page.
*snare*
And I don’t hate him because he turned down the Knicks but because I think he cheapened winning a championship by stacking the deck.
Imagine if Bird left the Celts to team up with the Lakers or if Jordan and Barkley went to Portland to play with Denver. To me, that’s what LBJ and Bosh did.
Drexler not Denver.
Imagine if the Yankees signed Mark Teixeira and CC Sabathia the same off-season and won the championship that very year.
The stacking the deck stuff is single biggest piece of bullshit I’ve ever heard and is actually the antethesis of what a Yankee fan should be saying. We all know that, no matter who the personnel is, you still have to actually play the game and that it’s not the names on the backs of the jersey that win you ballgames. That team still had deficiencies and holes they had to overcome, just like the Yankees do.
Let’s move on to happier stuff, MBW.
Slightly unrelated, but I love how AJ Burnett is left of this list now
Actually, I don’t love it. But you know what I mean.
Tactical choice.
That’s fact not BS.
Adding Tex and CC on a 25 man baseball roster when any one players impact is very limited is a hell of a lot different than adding Wade, Bosh and LBJ to an NBA team where 6 guys probably play 90% of the teams minutes.
The equivalent would be if Kemp , Braun, Kershaw, Hamilton, Votto and Strasburg were FA’s and all conspired to sign with the Yankees.
Glad you’re happy with the title but LBJ took the pussy way out
I live just north of Boston as a Yankee fan and have since 1989.
Prior to 2004, I would just laugh at my Red Sox friends and acquaintances and say “wait until October”. But 2004 was so chastening that I am a little more circumspect abou the rivalry now.
That was probably the first time in most of our lifetimes that the Sux really drew blood. I never hated them until that point and actually rooted for them against the Mets in 86.
1986 must have sucked. I’m glad I wasn’t alive to experience it.
Imagine, just out of fucking nowhere, you’re suddenly the only kid in class with a Yankee hat on when EVERYONE was wearing one just yesterday. That was 1986.
At least another NY team, the Mets, took out the BoSox in the World Series in 1986. That was sweet!!
Ugh. 2004 was miserable. I remember guffawing after it became 3-1, chuckling after it became 3-2, nervously snickering after it became 3-3, and then wanting to gouge my own eyes out.
Is it really within the rules for this pitcher to pause so long on his windup?
I don’t think so, but it’s a rule that’s never been enforced.
It’s seriously distracting me, and I’m not even trying to hit.
I don’t like it either. Beckett comes to mind.
Who is John Barnes?
nice night for Wise.
DEWAYNE WISE IS A DOUBLE AND SINGLE AWAY FROM THE CYCLE!
If he hits for the cycle, I will eat my hat.
Dewayne Wise getting two XBH’s means you’re winning.
And, yea, I thought he was out.
And he was
My man Wise!!!!
Wahoo!!! I am loving this game so far!
He was out but that was awesome.
He looked out without the replay
Is anyone else on this page getting a pop-up dialog box asking for a username and password from Sitemeter?
Yeah, every time.
Also, Royals just opened up 6-0 over that AAA team in my area. Nice.
Yes.
yes i am getting that message to
yea, I was wondering if I picked up a virus
I’ve seen it about 3 times.
Right after you wrote this.
Betances faced Daniel Cabrera tonight. Thought that was funny.
YES – I am as well.
lol Chris Stewart. lol our catchers. They better be framing the shit out of our pitches this season.
Girardi new boy
Wisie had a good game.
Respond fail – meant this to go in reply to Mike N.
I’m hoping we see Rapada today.
Kuroda xFIP at 3.99.
Chavez showing some range there huh?
nice play, Jete
That was nice.
I love Teix at 1B.
Garcia 8th or 9th? He is practically the only bullpen-ite who hasn’t played the last two days.
Final line in Dellin Betances tonight was 3 ip, 5 h, 7 r/er, 4 bb, 4 k. All over the place.
trololololo
Need better pitching prospects in this organization
We have Bryan Mitchell!
Bullpen time.
Dewayne Wise has the 2 hardest parts of the cycle done. Now if he can somehow manage to get a single & double.
kuroda is straight dealing
By the way, Henderson Alvarez left with an injury, The 4th Blue Jays pitcher to leave with an injury in about a week and a half
Payback from the baseball gods for stealing signs in their park.
Henderson Alvarez left the game with an apparent arm injury. Can’t make this up.
Just saw on ESPN DJ says he wants to be an owner of a team.
He retires, joins Yankees higher ups, buys Yankees when Hal and Hank get sick of it?
YES PLEASE!
He and ARod pool some money together, get a group of wealthy people behind them, like Nolan with the Rangers and Magic with the Dodgers.
Why not?
What do you guys think about astros chris snyder as a pick up. Better than stewartt?
Rapada is Gollum
Boy I am glad that Paulie was referencing the Jim Carey movie and not the Cher one…
I like this story about pitchers in the OF bullpen throwing sunflower seeds at the outfielders.
Awright Blue Jays – 9-5 over the BoSox in the 7th and its starting to rain harder.
OWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!
Ow poor Tex
The tarp is out in Fenway! Keep Raining!!
So who is coming in?
Kuroda is still in there but Rapada is up
Four Roses. Maple bitters. Simple syrup.
Probable victory drink.
Sounds delicious!
Oh, it is.
And I wonder why I put on about 15 pounds since my kid was born despite going to the gym about five times a week.
Maybe drop a maraschino cherry in? Or just a lemon or orange twist?
Should have.
But…I thought I was the resident alcoholic!!! At least according to 2-3 comments interpreted by Plank and handitus, who I haven’t seen in quite awhile.
Oh, I’m sure you’ve got me beat.
But I’m also 23, and at the time of those comments, was also still a college student, albeit a grad student. I still find it a little ridiculous thought.
Nice play
Wow that should’ve scored the run
Another good play!
What a grin
nevermind, that one was better
Oye Como Va!
ANOTHER!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahah!
Swisher needs to be disciplined. There’s no room for smiling in baseball. None.
Swish looking good in RF tonight. Awesome.
To paraphrase Dora Carington:
“I watch Swisher when I’m happy because he makes me happier.”
Comfortable win, TB down big, Boston down 4 and stuck in a rain delay, StL losing (I just can’t stand StL for some reason) = nice night.
Agree completely. I’ve hated St. Louis since they swept the Yankees in the 1964 World Series. That was awful.
BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe the Yankees are now in first place in the AL Central.
WHO WANTS ANOTHER BIG WINNING STREAK?!?!
So, just got home in time to see the final out, and read through the thread from leaving till the end…I love easy wins.
1 Athenian post
0 Stuart a posts
0 (718) Bronx posts
0 thaaaaaaaaaayankeeswin posts
0 Widget posts
It’s glorious, isn’t it? I mean, the threads have less posts in them, but it’s worth it without the trolls.
Just saw the replay of Wise’s triple, two things. 1. He was out by about a foot 2. Him and Gardner are the only two on the team that make it even that close.
great win
By the way, you thought the Soriano signing was bad. The Heath Bell contract has been abysmal. He just blew a 4 run lead to the Cradinals in the ninth.
I love a troll free game thread.