Game 41: Fast Start
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The Yankees and Mariners have split the first two games of this three-game series in very different ways. New York mounted a late-inning comeback in the opener before getting completely blown out yesterday. Did you know the Yankees have trailed after the first inning 14 times this year? They’ve had the lead after the first just five times, and they’ve been outscored 63-54 in the first three innings this year. Early runs and a fast start, please. Here’s the lineup that will face former Yankee Hector Noesi…
- CF Brett Gardner
- SS Jayson Nix
- 2B Robinson Cano
- LF Vernon Wells
- 1B Lyle Overbay
- DH Curtis Granderson
- 3B David Adams
- RF Ichiro Suzuki
- C Chris Stewart
And on the mound is 1996 Al Cy Young Award runner-up, left-hander Andy Pettitte.
The weather is damn near flawless in New York right now, so it’s a perfect night for baseball. The game is scheduled to start at 7:05pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.
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Looking to have Pettite right the ship as he goes for his carrier win number 250
If he’s going for Prussia, he’ll get win number 250.
Hear, hear!
Jayson Nix batting second.
Enough said.
Against a right hander, too. It’s defensible against lefties, but a righty? Meh.
*grumble grumble grumble grumble*
iijdfsjhgrijfkmleknapo
*GRUMBLE*
For Dellin, and for Prussia.
Granderson hits two bombs tonight!
Who’s coming with me? Who’s coming with me?
(Someone grab the goldfish)
Vorwärts!
Salute!
Kill them with fire Andy.
looks to be pretty quiet around here. i imagine most of those who don’t have the flu are out enjoying the pretty weather. jerks.
Only the second night since I got home Saturday that I haven’t spent out on a boat. In return, I spent the day by my pool.
are you still in nola? river? lake pontchartrain?
jerk.
Now that school is out I came home to the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Chilling out on beaches and rivers and whatnot. We’ve been tooling around on a party barge, though this weekend we’ll actually be taking a boat out into the Gulf for some fishing. I, noted hater of fishing that I am, shall drink a ton and act as DJ.
i had a good time in gulfport once.
I’m there fairly often, though Biloxi is definitely the better place in almost every way, especially entertainment wise. For bar crawling, Ocean Springs is probably best.
Still, the Coast is a nice little place in a ton of ways.
It’s been said, but Holy crap, Jayson Nix is batting second…
Well, Cano’s slumping, Ichiro’s slumping, Granderson just got back. Who else is going in the two hole? If Girardi wanted to shake it up a bit.
The only worse choice for the #2 spot in that lineup would be Chris Stewart. And I’m not entirely sure he would be a worse choice.
I would take any of those names you mentioned.
Pretty poor at bat Robbie
He’s been doing that the last few days.
This ump’s k zone is a bit small
Ball six
My scouts kept saying Ken Phelps! Ken Phelps!
My
scoutsbaseball people kept saying Ken Phelps! Ken Phelps!ftfy
Yeah, it’s been a while since I’ve seen that scene.
My favorite: BIG STEIN WANTS AN EGGPLANT CALZONE; HE MUST HAVE ONE!
Those scenes in the office at the end (like that one) are gold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8
Crap call there. Works for us, but the home plate ump calling that does bother me.
Call was total b.s.
Ugh, knew that was coming with the whole, “They need him to get going” nonsense.
one of the worst lineups in the majors and this staff is having trouble with them.. amazing.
Quick “trouble” trigger you’ve got there.
That’s why they play 162 of these bastards.
All the sudden the starting rotation doesn’t look as good as did a few days ago.
I disagree. Phelps was great, Nuno was great, CC was pretty good, Andy’s last start was good, and Hughes had one really bad game. Big deal.
Andy just gave up one run. I’m not quuuuiiiiitttte ready to give up on Andy yet.
He was VERY close to giving up 3, but I agree with you.
Is the sky ever NOT falling with you?
What’s with the two out runs with this team? Two strikes, two outs. Get the fucking final out, guys.
What are you talking about? This is the first time the starting rotation has looked shaky in about a month
When did I say they were doing bad? I’m saying that, and it’s admittedly subjective, it seems like a lot of the runs they are giving up come with two outs.
not compared to the league; but yes, i only like a two-out rally when it’s MY two-out rally.
bacon saved. get some runs.
Ichiro just saved 2 runs.
Flat fucking stuff.Hope Andy’s not gonna be bad again. My liver is toast from last night.
Asshole umps
F Aaron Harang and his “bad back”
lol
So when we go down in order again, will we start to hear, “How could we trade a top prospect like Noesi?”
It seems as though he has found himself when he went to the bullpen. He was good with us in the bullpen as well.
I liked him in the pen as well. Just was never convinced he’d be a particularly useful starter.
You can turn over a rock and find a Hector Noesi.
Noesi is garbage. We have about five Noesis in our system. The problem is this lineup, pretty fucking bad
Noesi sucks. You all have the stats. We will hit him.
Probably, and you should ignore them.
Alright Adams. Time for some ribeye.
Nice, he heard you
Why is Michael Morse allowed to play baseball? 3 roid suspensions before he came up as a SS and is now 250 lbs?
Granderson’s power is back. Now drive him in, Adams.
Save that ball.
Way to be, Addy!!!!
Adams!
yeah david!!
Boom. Called it.
Well done Mr. Adams.
Nicely done Adams!
Adams already so much better than Nelson/Francisco.
How could you forsake such a faithful platoon!?
Ichiro should have some pride and just retire. What a waste of money and a roster spot.
While the Japanese are a very prideful lot, they are also not stupid and won’t give up that much money
dumb
Ichiro = pitcher’s spot
And some people wanted Mr. 0-21 to bat second, is that correct?
Not quite as powerful an argument when the guy he’d be replacing is Jayson Nix. But sure, Ichiro wouldn’t be my first choice to bat second, but Nix certainly wouldn’t be either.
Ichiro at least has an advantage in terms of speed there.
Well Nix at least has been on a bit of a hot stretch recently. Put him there while he’s still in that at least for one game.
It just sucks that they’re in this position. God I can’t wait to have our team back.
167/286/167 since May 11.
En Fuego.
Heh.
Still a better option than Nix.
But no, I wouldn’t bat him second.
Nix,Ichiro, and Stewart should be 7,8,9.
While I am not one of them, those who would prefer him over Nix are not invalidated by that AB, his slump, his season as a whole, or his post-2010 crappiness. It’s Jayson Nix. Against a righty.
Well as I said, Nix has been on a bit of a hot streak of late.
And it’s probably just for a game so it won’t have any long term implications.
All I’m saying is if you have lemons….
If you have lemons, bat them at the bottom of the order, and let better players get more ABs.
Not quite as inspirational as “make fucking lemonade.”
Yeah, I understand. And against left handers I really don’t have much of a problem with him in the two hole given the roster. But against a righty? I’d take Granderson, Ichiro, or Wells there before Nix.
looks like skip went LRLRL with extra consideration for obp. here’s hoping adams makes a case.
I don’t think I ever want a job where I could called “skip.”
Then again, money’s not bad. Call me anything you want for mid six figures.
There are players not named Ichiro and not named Nix that could have hit second. Cano, Wells, Adams, etc.
Adams, I might consider, if he continues to show that nice swing.
That was a pretty swing by Adams. Don’t wanna act the fool about it.
But that was just nice to see.
I wonder if the guy who revoked his fandom over the Yankees releasing Adams has come back yet.
We changed the locks.
Nice inning Andy
Heh. Andy.
Breathe folks. He’s got this.
So, to get this straight, now we’re supposed to exhibit huge amounts of righteous anger over Ichiro Suzuki. I just want to make sure I’m getting this right.
Ben Francischiro.
Javy Vazichiro.
Serchiro Mitre.
Ozcar Azochiro
Before my time.
carliro suzano.
Not just righteous anger, but acting as if he’s totally useless is encouraged.
I love Ichiro. I get it, I’m not blind. He’s aging and clearly not where he once was. But I just admire his professionalism so much. It pains me to see him flailing. I’ll be hoping all season (and next, *gulp*) for him to get back into form.
Yup. I can only feel sad. I can’t feel angry. That’s a fucking HOFer out there.
Yeah, considering his status as a first ballot HOFer and his resurgence last season I’m willing to give Ichiro more leeway than most other players. I’m still hopeful that he’ll give us a real contribution at some point this season and get really hot.
@ChasRiverDogs: Rafael De Paula has struckout 5 through 3 perfect innings. It’s 2-0 Dogs top 4
I love this kid. I can already tell I’m going to be way too obsessed with him and Ramirez.
I wish Gardner could hit something. A league average bat would be greatly appreciated.
Think Nix got jobbed there a bit. Not defending him, just stating my possible observations
Nix goes down looking. Again.
So Nix being 0 for 2 immediately invalidates the argument for batting him second, right?
I’m pretty sure that’s how arguments work.
You must be quick with the smackdown, or else you’re not a real somethingorother.
Office finale time.
I’m not sure there ever was much of an argument for batting him second against the righty.
This is true.
I took the AP World Exam today and there was a question about Prussia. Go Prussia and Andy!
Fuck it all.
Wow. Prussia question on an AP exam is pretty impressive.
Cue the DEFENSIVE CATCHER call
SO tempting. It really is.
Go Andrew! In the basket.
He just can’t find the plate
C’mon Andy.
Strikes please.
So Montero goes to a team where you can grow a beard, and that’s what he comes up with, huh?
Hope Joe doesn’t wait too long.
I’m not sending Betances out there with the bases loaded.
What? I didn’t say take him out now. I said leash him. You really say some stupid shit brother.
You’ve got a very screwed up thought process.
Andy walked Montero? These are .200 hitters! Attack them!
Stewart cost him that strike.
Just beat me sir. Well done.
Chris Stewart just cost that strike right there.
Andy has no idea where his pitches are going… he looks awful
Would someone please put a bag over Romines head Andy can see him and its screwing him up.
good play by Overbay and Stewie there
Smart play by Overbay. They weren’t getting 2 there.
Fuck.
And of course Ryan finds the hole
twss
Dammit.
2 out, 2 strike RBI hits to Dustin Ackley and Brendan Ryan, what a joke.
These are middling hitters that couldn’t hit anyone and Andy is letting them off the hook. Throw it in the dirt on 0-2.
Oy.
that’s Brendan Ryan of the -1 OPS+ on the season hitting hard ball all over the field..
Strikes would be nice.
I blame Romine
You may be right. Either way, losing 2 of 3 to this terrible team puts a damper on the recent success.
Games over already?
It does and it leaves me quite confused on how to react.
React like this is baseball and you’ve experienced baseball before.
We’re having a serious discussion here, Need Pitching. We don’t have time for your bullshit.
Personally, I recommend sobbing. But only in private. In public, swear profusely.
Isn’t that pretty much what I said?
ietc
And this one.
It would force the Yankees to trade rosters with the Astros.
Let’s be honest here . . . It’s Granderson’s fault. He screwed the mojo. DFA Curtis. Promote Ichiro to Captain.
NEGATIVE VIBES!
The stadium sounds so lifeless.
Not the world’s most energizing inning.
These are the goddamn Mariners! C’mon! This is getting to be re-goddamn-diculous! EXCLAMATION POINT!
Andy’s of tonight but he’s also getting squeezed.
Strikezone is tight for both pitchers but Noesi is cruising along
At least we are still in the game
Someone give Andy a five minute lecture on Otto von Bismarck while the Yankees are batting. That should inspire him.
I could do it if needed. Two minute recap is easy. With 5 minutes I could get into Frederick the Great AND the Great Elector too.
No inspirational speech on von Bismarck, and this is what happens. Shit.
It’s like the gods are insisting they keep a Prussia expert in the dugout or something.
I’ll just go wait by the phone.
Oh my lord, Robbie, come on
seriously, Robbie needs a day off.. he’s garbage right now
Just me, or has Robby been chasing pitches lower in the zone more often lately?
He’s been chasing pitches all over lately.
Fair enough.
Robbie hits a little dribbler, Grandy hits a little dribbler. This guy isn’t that good and we know that.
He’s a good bullpen pitcher and spot starter. He’s not a good regular starter.
Trade Cano! Bring back the Fonz! Bring back Womack! Bring back Knoblauch!
Winkler used to play softball with the cast of Happy Days.
Why noy?
/joke
I was hoping to plug Soriano back into second base, but I hear Ron Howard is looking for a new project . . . Happy Days indeed.
Dooley Womack? Wow. From the lean years.
Tony! Toni! Toné! Womack. The man who gift-wrapped Cano his starting position, I believe . . .
Dooley Womack
http://www.baseball-reference......do01.shtml
How do you go from Horace Guy to Dooley?
Wrong new york baseball team bring back tiki too
Tiki in left with Bernie Baseball back in CF . . . and Sir Gary of Sheffield back in Right. Unless, that is, O’Neill is still on the market. This team needs a warrior!
Run run run…
Everybody seems to be late on Noesi’s fastball.
Kurtis.
Blows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZDUEilS5M4
That would have been a horrible, horrible pitch to swing at.
Swinging at that offspeed pitch caused that strikeout
Inconsistent strikezone.
So in this parallel universe Noesi is good but Granderson still strikes out a lot. And there is no Prussia.
Well, at least the likelihood of Curtis breaking the K record is substantially diminished with a month’s worth of ABs in the dumpster . . . Silver Linings.
No Prussia?
……
…..
….
…
..
.
*sobs*
Uh oh
Moose is a hall of famer. Andy is a hall of famer. They’re both automatic.
Andy will have the PED thing against him with some voters.
Well that just sucks
Yikes.
Did anyone see anything?
that explains why he was off.. hope it’s not too serious
Tight back I assume.
Oh man not another injury.
Joe said Andy’s back was behind him, maybe it’s back. Who knows.
Isn’t everyone’s back behind them?
Buh dum pissssshhhhhhh
fuck us
Good thing Betances is up.
*cackles*
Greeeaaaaaaaaaat.
Well, that sucks.
I would bring in Mr. Adam Warren and see if he can give us a couple good innings. The offense needs to come alive.
Amazing how the mood and situation of a team can change within a few days.
Your mood and situation, or even the mood of the insanely involved fanbase represented here, does not actually reflect that of the team. Down one run in the rubber game of a series with a two game lead in the division does not deterioration make.
Well it depends on Pettitte’s injury. If we win this game but lose Pettitte for a big length of time, then we’re in major trouble.
We could be, sure. Or Andy could make his next start with no trouble. Or he could miss one start and his replacement could do relatively fine. Or…
Meanwhile, nothing has actually happened yet to actually “the mood and situation of a team.” Breathe.
to change “the mood and situation of a team.”
Slide Nuno in andys spot for a few weeks meantime pineda is close
As much as I hate to admit it, Nova’s close as well. We’ll see.
Almost word for word what I was going to write. But then I figured why bother?
This has become ridiculous.
I did notice Andy shake his shoulder/arm earlier after a K.
I remember the shock/frustration I felt when I learned that Grandy, Tex, etc. got injured a few months ago. Now it’s at the point where I’m so desensitized that its just “meh”.
That said I hope Andy is well.
from certain angles, david adams looks a little like daniel craig
Use the YES-view
I laughed.
bullet time!
Chris Stewart: He’s Got This.
Stewie baseball player!
Now’d be a good time to break out of your slump, Gardy.
or do that instead
At least Nix is up now.
Stewey did it again. Now get that run home.
holy crap
oliver perez
Squeeze here
Useless Gardner
Gardner strikes out too much for a guy who doesn’t homer.
I’d like to know what Gardner did to deserve to hit leadoff. He simply can’t hit
He’s the closest thing to a leadoff hitter they currently have.
You’re forgetting about Pronk. The man was born to hit leadoff.
Blargh. C’monnnnn Nix. Make me look wrong.
….
(I still wouldn’t be)
Gardner can not hit southpaws
Can’t hit in general
Why didn’t they squeeze? Is it a binder thing?
only chance to score here is a wild pitch or balk
Useful there. Very useful.
Darn.
Ugh. So much for that possibly rally.
whatever
we’re still winning this game
Agreed. No other outcome is acceptable.
The fate of Prussia is in their hands.
Gardner is just a awful offensive player for a starter. Nix has to start because of injuries, but Gardner, my goodness.
Gardners a slightly below league average hitter.
Ichiro is an awful offensive player for a starter. As is Stewart.
He’s hitting .250 as a leadoff hitter. He has a .322 OBP as a leadoff hitter. That’s unacceptable
He shouldn’t be hitting leadoff. He’s better suited to the bottom of the order.
But he’s the best leadoff option they have right now. And his numbers should improve a bit.
But they were planning for him to hit leadoff all along. That was the plan all along. If what you say is true, then it’s a complete disaster in planning.
There was never any better option.
And no one here, even hard-core optimists like myself, even seriously said the team’s construction was optimal.
If he hits to his career numbers, he’d be about average for a leadoff hitter. Not great, but not exactly a disaster.
And if Jeter was healthy, they’d have options if Gardner didn’t work out. They only NEED Gardner to hit leadoff because of all of the injuries. He would just be one potential option if not for all of the injuries.
Pretty sure the plan was for Jeter to hit leadoff.
I agree, but it never seems as though anyone else does. He’s a one-tool player. I never believed that he was starter-capable . . .
He’s not exactly the On-Base Machine we were led to believe he’d be.
It’s amazing that a team can win while starting both Ichiro and Gardner in the OF.
Shit dammit
K or Hr, K or HR…sigh.
that was amazing, he crushed that.
What did I say about mood?
Losing 2 of 3 to an under .500 team (maybe) while maybe losing your number 3 starter to injury.
The same things you always say. You’ve been wrong well over half the time since you’ve started saying them here last season.
Color me unimpressed by your talents as a Seer.
So if I’m wrong, that means they’ll win this game right?
No. Because this is baseball and sometimes teams lose games to other teams that aren’t as good. See, this is part of the problem. You see what happens and you come up with these emotionally-based, incredibly illogical, generally worst-case scenario reading of the issue.
Emotionally-based, incredibly illogical, generally worst-case scenarios are sometimes correct. Usually they’re just panicky nonsense. And you know it, too, because you’ve said as much before. That hit Granderson got just now? If I was so-inclined I could argue that that’s the big hit that’ll light a fire! Everyone will take their cue from that. 2-out rally to tie and win the game because the team is driven to win it for the now-injured Andy. And I’d have just as much evidence for that as you do for your “a pall has formed over the team” theory.
the beauty of the game is the long season.
Gardner’s reputation seems to be strongest when he’s injured for a long time, and we’re all imagining him to be this wonderful player that can keep getting on base, getting contact when needed to, and raising hell on the basepaths. Next time I’ll just believe in unicorns.
Boy, you said a mouthful. Every time he’s injured people talk like “when Gardy comes back it’s like trading for an all-star outfielder!”
All-star OF is an overstatement, but solidly above average overall value is pretty much a lock if he’s healthy.
Isn’t he healthy now?
Yes. I meant if he stays healthy (or mostly healthy) over the full season.
Well if he’s healthy, starting, and leading off for us, I’d sure like him to start making some things happen.
That would be nice. He’s definitely off to a slow start this year.
Ideally, they wouldn’t need him to leadoff.
Drafted as a SS. 3 minor league steroid suspensions. Now 40 pounds even heavier. Why is he allowed to play?
They’re going to end up losing the series to Michael Morse, Hector Noese and the corpse of Raul Ibanez.
This team went from “fun to watch” to being a fu**ing travesty. It was a nice stretch while it lasted. Hopefully a new hero steps up soon. Couldn’t rely on Youkilis, Wells, Overbay, Cervelli, and Hafner forever. Woe is me.
That’s a little premature
It’s just my personal reflection. I came into the season with the lowest expectations. Like, I didn’t even want to know their statistics, record, or transactions. But, I started to appreciate the whole over-achieving underdog narrative. It was fun. It was exciting. It was a warm and touching story. Also, I didn’t have to bear the inevitable Teixera pop-ups and Granderson strikeouts. Now . . . I have an irrational (though I believe it IS rational) dislike of Gardner and the starting lineup is straight up ugly, especially when the rotation shows signs of imploding. And Cano, good golly, his slumps are atrocious and appalling to watch. Whatever it is, something’s clicked and the fun’s been sapped from this team. It’s almost as though the magic disappeared when Ichiro hit the dirt. We need his sorcery to continue the team’s success. He needs his powers back!
Ha, maybe. Im gonna give it a little more time, lets see where we are at the end of the Blue Jays series
True. That will be a good gauge . . . but then there’s the Red Sox at the end of the month, I believe. May. The month of May. This is the real test, I guess.
This is what I mean. In 2 frickin’ days.
Hahahahaha
Spoken like a true bandwagon fan.
Morse= juicer should bebon the bluejays.
3 suspensions for roids. And that was when we was still a SS. Now he is a fucking giant.
If you say it 3 or 4 more times the MLB is sure to take action.
And you contribute what around here?
Prussia memes, generally good-natured sarcasm, and the occasional salient point.
The latter is exceedingly rare.
So self-indulgent crap to make yourself feel good.
And amuse quite a few others, yes.
I could get the copy-paste machine and anger working more often, but I choose this instead.
Sorry, just screwing around. Your point was pretty valid.
Hahaha.
What’s up with Michael Morse’s eyes?
We will win this game.
Hear, hear!
But not for Prussia, for me.
I don’t care for reasons. Give me results and I’ll use whatever reasons make me happy. I expect everyone else to do the same.
Guys! This is Oliver Perez! FINISH HIM.
7 runs in 25 innings against one of the worst teams in the league. The Yankees are very lucky they won 1 game. What a fucking joke of an offense.
Now that’s a bit unfair because Seattle has a good 1-2 in Felix and Iwakuma. And they have a good bullpen. The fact that Hughes imploded is the object of ire.
Hughes made the game non-competitive yesterday. There was barely even a chance to come back against Iwakuma. If it’s a competitive game maybe we rally against Iwakuma.
The guy was 4-1 with a 1.74 ERA going into that game. I’m not so sure.
I think he’s just saying that there was a chance….if we weren’t down 6 by the second inning.
Yeah, seriously. We beat Felix the day before, because the score was at least close.
Yeah. At least the option of the “just get to the bullpen” strategy would have been there.
Yeah. Granderson was never going to add much of anything . . .
Including 2 games against 2 of the best pitchers in baseball.
Seattle has a middling lineup, middling pitchers and they can’t do a damn thing.
Felix Hernandez is a middling pitcher?
Middling Middle Relief, he meant.
Every team has middling middle relief. The Mariners have a very strong bullpen.
Kurtis again?
Heh.
Hit a HR off this guy Grandy and shut him up.
Now would be a good time for another one of those doubles.
why even bother pitching to Adams with Ichiro on deck
Ugh. A game of squandered opportunities. These are the worst to watch and witness. I want to look away but I keep on coming back!
I got out but they keep puling me back in.
Here’s to more blowouts and pitching duels! Win or lose, those games are simply more entertaining. (And less stressful, because, let’s be honest, this brand of pinstriped shittery is particularly taxing.)
Boone “Scott Proctor” Logan.
Kelly K’s everything jeez.
I would say though about mood that a lot of Yankee fans still don’t believe in this team despite being 10 over. They are just expecting or waiting for the other shoe drop. And any loss or another key injury could be the other shoe dropping. So this year, I think the wild overreaction is more present and maybe even a bit more understandable
The wild overreaction is equally present every year.
Yeah present wasn’t the right word. Maybe a bit more common is the way I want to go. Not just by us but by other fans
For me, the other shoe is worn by my diminished expectations of the calvary returning. Is this team truly better with Tex, Grandy, Youk, and Cervelli? I suppose, but the two that I see having the greatest impact are Jeter and A-Rod, and who knows what’s going to happen with them. Pineda is obviously the wildcard here.
Over the last two years, A-Rod and Jeter have combined for 11.1 WAR. Teixeira and Granderson have combined for 15.7 WAR.
I don’t put much stock in “WAR”. The strikeouts, pop-ups, and weak dribblers between the two of them are enough to warrant my general, half-assed disdain. I just have a positive feeling concerning A-Rod’s return. I think he’ll be able to add a touch more than Teixera and Kurtis. But, don’t get me wrong, I’d LOVE LOVE LOVE to see 25 and 14 buck the downward trend and return to their once elite status.
I can go with a bit more understandable. But you were here for pretty much all of last season, and we’ve still yet to come anywhere near some of the insanity we had there. I mean, remember the insanity present here during “the collapse” when the team blew nearly all the stockpiled lead in the standings? You would have thought NYC had quite literally burnt to the ground while tornadoes leveled the rest of the East Coast and a Armageddon-type meteor was on a collision course for Westchester.
I think that has to do with lowered expectations as Troll mentioned earlier. People are hedging their bets on this start. Frankly IMO, optimism and the Yankees broke up this offseason.
There’s enough people around here (and even a good many in the real world too) that have been feeling good about the team for most of the time for that to not be true though. *shrug*
Hey, BTW, was just busting your balls earlier after you made a very valid point. Nothing personal.
Same. I only realized after re-reading that I hadn’t taken proper steps to make sure that that would sound playful instead of dickish, and you and I don’t have the rapport for you to be assuming I wasn’t being a dick. No harm done I don’t think.
Damn you, italics system. Damn you.
Idk… Kelly was looking pretty good.
Damn I thought Logan had worse numbers than that.
Me too
I mean I knew the ERA was small so I just assumed he was giving up inherited runners left and right. Only 5 of 13 inherited runners scored?
That does seem low. I knew he’d been on a run of decent-good appearances, but I didn’t realize his numbers had recovered so much. Me likey.
He’s still getting Proctor’d though.
Perhaps instances like blowing that Oakland game go a long way in forming an impression.
The homer to Prince Fielder was pretty horrible, too.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. The season started in Cleveland. We haven’t played Detroit yet.
No, we opened with the Red Sox. Then we went to Detroit
No. No we did NOT completely crap the bed against Boston and Detroit to start the season.
The season started with two wins in Cleveland.
Yes, I don’t know what I was thinking.
heh
My bad
The magic is back!
Think you have to pinch hit for Chris Stewart here. Even if he ends up doing something good.
The problem is that the Yanks don’t have anybody credible to PH.
According to Mike, Hafner might be available to PH.
There was a rumor from Jennings that Hafner was available. Never confirmed that I saw though. Still, wouldn’t you take Boesch or Romine over Stewart there?
Boesch is in AAA I believe
I completely forgot about that. I’ve spent so long waiting for it that it just fails to occur it finally happened.
I’d still be tempted to take Romine there, but that does pretty much nix the decent options with Hafner a no-go.
Ben Francisco ftw!!!
Agreed. This is an awful move.
Bad process, good outcome. Way to go Chris.
It happens. Quite often these days. He’s done it quite a few times this year. Soon we’ll be calling him clutch.
Ichiro gets a hit, and Verlander’s getting clubbed around Arlington (8 ER, 2.2 IP). What’s going on here?!
Oooof. Rough week for a lot of pitchers.
Yup. Just looked over at SF/Col, and Cain’s given up 6 ER by the third as well.
LOL at Sterling describing Joba as one of “the big guys” in the bullpen.
Well he’s pretty fat
I would be really tempted to have Gardner bunt.
Definitely. And I hate bunting.
+1
Damn, that’s some Funky Cold Medina.
Stewey’s had some great at bats tonight. Now bunt Gardner, he can’t do much else.
Awful AB
Should have had him bunt.
And he just stood there. Get that piece of shit out of the leadoff spot.
Gardy is really coming up big tonight.
Gardy can’t bunt, but he sho’ can whiff.
Double steal.
Just kidding. Kinda.
They’ll never see it coming!
So I guess Pronk probably isn’t available tonight.
That’s what I take from all that.
Gardner used to be my favorite player but he’s starting to annoy me. I wish he would go back to how he was in 2010-2012.
Slumping hard right now. Baserunning and hitting.
Yanks sure have made a lot of weak contact in this series.
We needed that one out earlier.
Whew. That was a nice play by Seager. Alright Cano/Wells.
Does this mean they’re not walking Cano? You don’t change pitchers right before an IBB…
No they will pitch to him. Let’s Cano gets lucky and connects against the lefty.
So they’re going to pitch to Cano. Get fired up Robbie, let’s go.
Top 5 in the lineup are 0-15 with 2 walks and 7 strikeouts. Pathetic.
As long as Cano goes 1-1 right now, I don’t care.
this guy’s the raper, right?
No that’s Locke you’re thinking of I think.
The way Cano’s been striking out recently, may be safer for them to pitch to him instead of Wells.
Nice job Brendan.
The shift backfires
Caught a break, make them pay.
This acting manager is worse than Girardi with all these pitching changes. Hopefully it costs him the ballgame.
I missed most of the game, what happened to Wedge?
Stewart now has an issue……this is unreal.
Damn reply. Wedge was tossed for aruging….well nothing much early on.
Tossed early
Swinging at the first pitch, huh Cano? Regardless of outcome, isn’t this why he shouldn’t make the mega-bucks? Utter lack of plate discipline . . .
Yeah, your right. The player who was 2nd in the league in WAR in 2012 should make “mega-bucks.” Not to mention top 25 the year before and top 10 the year before that. But yeah, sometimes he swings at the first pitch…
Oh, and those numbers are all-MLB. Not just AL.
Nice. I’m right. Thank you
And now Chris Stewart’s hurt
Looks like he pulled his left nut.
Bobby Wilson, welcome to the Bronx.
“If you call him, he will come”, says a mysterious, whispered voice.
It’s time for Gary Sanchez. Everyone, in unison, yell out his name!
Mur-phy! Mur-phy!
Better chance of him than Sanchez, but still unlikely, at least right now.
If Kevin Costner can summon “Shoeless Joe” Jackson, Moonlight Graham, AND his dead father, then I think we’ve got a pretty decent shot at Gary Sanchez.
No harm in trying.
Again swinging at the first pitch. And if that was right down the middle at 85mph, you gotta get a better swing than that.
Unbelievable.
Just call up the entire AAA roster, they’ll eventually be needed at the rate these injuries are happening.
If you thought our catching offense was crap now, it’s gonna get a lot worse.
One game we lose Nova and Cervelli, another game we lose (potentially) Pettite and Stewart. Getting really old now.
At this point if Stewart is hurt, just let Romine catch everyday and have Murphy up, I don’t want to see any part of Wilson’s mendoza line offense.
Wow. My computer dies for 3 minutes and we lose another player?
We did gain a run though. Hmm. Hey, Benny…we need you for something quick…
So who’s the emergency catcher. Nix? Vernon?
Nix.
Nix was the answer last time this came up. I’d assume that’s still the case.
Girardi?
I still say he could do it. He’s in better shape than most players.
I’d guess either Nix or Alberto.
Tight back again for Pettitte.
traps
Dude’s trying to show up Mo by breaking all these bats.
Cut him. Now.
So know we are for the most part okay with Pettitte’s injury, but now we have another injury to fill that hole of worry.
That’s just how the 2013 Yankees like to roll
If enough guys get hurt and we stay competitive maybe the media will actually agree to call us scrapy/gritty.
2 runs in 2 innings. It.can.be.done.
One more injury happens and I am breaking out the M*A*S*H* theme
These injuries are getting to be a bit too much. I mean, I have a bum knee and I can still mildly hobble around every day. TOUGH IT OUT, MENFOLK IN PINSTRIPES.
Ma and Pa are flummoxed. They thought Pettitte hurt his back, but it turns out he hurt his trapezius. Oh, OK. Because that’s not part of your back.
Looking at the diagram it’s more neck than back
not really
It’s absolutely your back. Please don’t defend Ma and Pa.
Ma and Pa are flummoxed, ha
Iknorite? It’s stunning. They’re usually so alert.
I don’t care that Overbay fouled out, he took up 11 pitches with that at bat. That’s valuable.
I’d rather he get a hit on the first pitch.
Not so much with a short reliever in the last game of a series.
Not right now, it just shows his workman like ability.
Let’s see if Grandy can still steal a bag
There we go.
Definitely nice to see.
Let’s get this going boys. We still got this.
C’mon Ichiro. Do something big.
They’re going to walk Ichiro
Austin Romine shall become a True Yankee should that happen.
Apparently not, but they were talking about it.
Not sure Ichiro would allow that to happen.
Sad face.
Up to Romine and the top of the order to get this done. Let’s keep this at one run.
Did Ichiro swing at a ball or a strike there? They won’t say.
With this ump it’s really hard to tell.
What can you do? Brian Cashman and his Ichiro decision are looking worse by the day.
I think Ichiro was a trust fund baby decision.
Ownership re-signed Ichiro.
Just like a Steinbrenner.
If it really was ownership (reports like that are always suspect) it’s such a Boss-like move that more people should be pleased with it.
http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....ing-84874/
That ain’t Cashman.
Yeah, why pitch around one automatic out to get to another? This way they have Romine, Gardner and a struggling Robbie Cano due up next inning for the closer.
You forgot Nix.
Check that, Nix hits ahead of Cano. Robbie won’t even get an AB.
You only wish Robbie was batting second.
So it’s going to come down to Romine, Gardner, and Nix in the 9th.
Not exactly reason for optimism.
And now Toronto comes in, even though we’ve dominated them, they’ve won 4 in a row and are playing well. No landing spots.
Lawrie is gonna piss us off all weekend.
Way off topic, but somebody paid $1.9M for a topless painting of Bea Arthur.
http://www.usnews.com/news/ent.....19m-in-nyc
That was a pretty good play. Needed a better throw though.
Oh no. Their closer’s name is Wilhelmsen. What the fuck are we supposed to do if he’s Prussian?
Screw it. Dude’s a traitor. We got this.
He’s probably from Hanover anyway.
He’s a Swede. F him.
Swedish? SWEDISH?
They’ve been our arch-nemisis for freaking centuries. Gotta get this done.
I saw and responded to you up above by the way. Quick summary: totally my bad for not realizing who was posting and making my comment sound as playful as I meant it. No reason for you to assume I wasn’t being a dick.
Sox-Rays: Sox have 1st and 2d no outs top 9, down 3-1.
That was ball 4. And Romine is f’ing slow
Damnit. Romine runs like Tex.
I don’t blame him for swinging there though. The ump’s been calling that low strike alllllll night.
WHAT THE F*** IS GARDNER DOING
That was to the bunt but he got a base hit.
Could have used that earlier though. Let’s see what happens.
Finally the leadoff hitter gets on base. About time.
Time to win this
Pound this Swede. We need revenge for the Thirty Years War.
Get off to the races Brett.
I think Prussia and Sweden were allies.
It was still Brandenburg. And they were, on and off. And yet the “Swedish menace” was burnt into Brandenburg-Prussian memory well into the next century. They looted and leveled large stretches of the province over the course of the war. The electorate lost something like 2/3s of it’s population, largely due to Swedish occupation of it.
Gardner has to run, right?
Man I wish Pronk was available.
Get to second. NOW
Don’t be a statue, Brett.
I would steal 1st pitch. Montero couldn’t throw out Romine.
Yikes Jesus.
The problem is if Nix gets out they’ll walk Cano.
This time there’s a good hitter behind him though.
I’d steal 3rd the next pitch. He can’t throw.
Steal 3rd too
yes
Wow. Gardner probably had that stolen anyway, but Montero was slow with the throw, then it was way off-line.
There ya go, Brett.
Yeah baby
Take 3rd Montero sucks
Oh Hell yes Gardner.
Embedded Yankee Jesus Montero
Brett Gardner and the Magic Oven Mitt
A picture book for Yankees fans.
That was fantastic. Kudos to you.
So glad Nix was batting second.
Want him to get as many AB’s as possible.
Seriously, where’s the chorus humming the tune of “Batting order doesn’t matter over the course of a season!” Well, it could very well cost them a game tonight . . .
F (U) Rodney. You suck!
Damn it Nix. They won’t throw anything to Robbie. Who’s idea was it to have Nix in the 2 hole.
nice nix. worst possible outcome.
Okay Cano, please do not hit a weak grounder.
Steal home. Montero still couldn’t throw Brett out.
Fuck it, steal home too.
Aaaaaaaaargh. He really wanted that sac-fly. Ugh.
Alright Robbie. This is where you’ve gotta do your thing.
Steal home. it’s the only way this game is going to be tied.
I’m shocked they aren’t walking him
I’d be hugely tempted to walk him AND Wells and pitch to Overbay.
Which is just one more reason I’ll never manage in the MLB, but still.
And they’re pitching to Cano…
Fuck you Nix
Jayson Nix always does something to help the team.
Steal home! Montero wouldn’t be able to throw him out.
Wow. Fucking Red Sox. My potty mouth could not be contained.
This was all on super genius Joe Maddon. Your closer just walked everyone. Sure leave him in the game.
Red Sox are heating back up. First place will be gone by Monday. Yankees sux
Granted you’re likely a Red Sox fan, the Blue Jays have a better shot at winning the division than Boston.
Red Sox are better than toronto. The blow jays are not winning anything. GO play hockey moron.
Oh, because I’m Canadian, right? My bad. Must’ve slipped my mind. Poor Bostonians, all they have are sports, and even then, they have nothing.
Welp…I got in at an interesting time…
Just not enough good players to win.
There goes the mood.
We had one of the best hitters in the game at the plate with the tying run at third. It wasn’t an issue of not enough good players.
Said best hitter is slumping hard.
I thought that happened, like, 2 hours ago?
My point from then still stands.
It’s that other shoe. People are baited at the breath for it to fall and then feast on the carcass.
Greg, your mood goes south on a foul ball.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand weak grounder. Fuck the Mariners and there 60 relievers.
Their*
3 times they had a runner at 3B with 1 out. 3 times they struck out.
Inexcusable to have such pathetic at bats in those situations.
Another huge assist to Girardi for batting Jayson Nix, one of the worst players on the roster, in front of Cano. Does Girardi realize he is OPS’ing under .600 on the season? Only a clueless idiot would be so concerned about breaking up lefties in the order that he would bat a terrible right hander in the two spot.
For who Matt?
Hafner was unavailable.
Wake up. Girardi could have put him 8th or 9th like any other manager in the major leagues would have done. You really are clueless.
He just misunderstood what you were saying, I think. He’s not clueless.
No I meant who are you pinch hitting for Nix in that situation. Not whether you are batting 8 or 9.
Exactly.
You don’t need to pinch hit for Nix if he is not batting second in front of your best hitters.
Just stop.
Oh for God’s sakes…..
Stop being an idiot and this won’t be necessary. You will say or do anything to defend Girardi.
Nix should never bat second against a RHP. Period. If he isn’t batting in the wrong spot in the order, he doesn’t get as many at bats in those sort of spots.
It’s common sense to everyone, except you apparently.
Doesn’t matter. He is still clueless. He always finds an excuse to defend Girardi no matter what he does. Batting Jayson Nix, one of the worst hitters in baseball, in the two hole is inexcusable.
That’s fine. But you didn’t answer my question.
Oh, this is just precious…Matt calling Greg clueless. Pot, meet kettle.
Matt is a gutless troll. At least I comment the whole game. He only comes up to comment at the end of games.
Suspend me if you want, but it’s true.
There does seem to be a bit of a pattern there. I’m glad I missed this.
And only at the end of games they lose.
And that matters because? I don’t need to post my every thought on this blog. I come here to vent about stupid moves like the one that was made in the game. You need to get off your high horse and stop thinking you are better than others because you post more often.
Oooo…Matt angry…Matt smash!
As far as high horses, you seem to have one of tallest on this blog.
So what? I don’t need to sit on the blog all night and discuss every single decision that is made in the game. I have better things to do.
You seem to think that posting a lot makes you an authority, but if what you post is stupid then it doesn’t change anything.
I come here to vent my frustration about the avoidable mistakes that are constantly being made out there. You need to get over yourself.
What in the world are you talking about?
Everyone in the world knows that Nix should never bat second against a righty, even in this lineup.
Keep attacking me for no reason, but I am almost always right. You don’t like the honesty, but burying your head in the sand doesn’t change the outcome.
“Almost always right” – that’s laughable. And stop whining about being attacked when you constantly attack anyone who disagrees with you.
It’s only laughable to you because you criticize my posts regardless of their content.
Just because you refuse to see it, it doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
I’m harsh in my assessments, but I don’t criticize just to criticize. I only go after someone when it is deserved. Batting Jayson Nix in the two spot against a righty is stupid even for Girardi.
This is the first time I’ve criticized one of your posts, however I have been around long enough to see that when someone disagrees with you, you lash out with “idiot” or “clueless”. Then you whine when someone calls you out on it.
Perhaps if you would stop being defensive about every reply, you would realize I did not attack your post about batting Nix 2nd…I commented on the fact you immediately called Greg clueless.
2 times. Not that it makes it much better.
Regression to the mean ladies and gents.
Stop making Greg’s point for him.
.600 ball from this team is great, may it continue ever thus. How’s that?
There is no such thing as regression to the mean. They were not getting lucky before and did not get unlucky tonight. They lost this game because they couldn’t put the ball in play repeatedly with runners at 3rd and less than 2 outs. This was a game that a major league team should win 90% of the time.
Go get a degree in mathematics.
Aren’t you cute? I do have one, and you are an idiot.
There is no such thing as “regression to the mean” in the way that you are describing it. Just because they got some extreme outcomes before, it does not mean that they will get extreme outcomes the other way to “make up for it.” Each game is a relatively independent event.
What you are looking for is “convergence in probability.” And it is only guaranteed in the limit of an infinite number of observations.
I never described it. Your mind is apparently wandering again.
And yes, they were bound to lose some games like this during the season. But it is not because of any sort of “overachieving” before. A game in which you K 3 times with the tying run at 3rd and lose by 1 is more likely to be the outlier than the others.
If one assumes a random variable obeys any one of many mathematical models (Central Limit Theorem, for example), then the variable will tend to be measured at the avg. value. So, unless you think the Yanks are a .600 club, their avg will regress to the “mean”, which, admittedly, there are various sabermetric ways of estimating what the mean should be. But it ain’t .600
Again. There is no such thing as “regression to the mean.” Every estimator in a finite sample has a distribution with a non-zero variance. Extreme outcomes can happen even in large samples, with low probability. Just because they have won some close games early, it does not mean that they will lose some close games later and end up at their “true” ability level.
The distribution is basically memoryless. The previous outcomes don’t matter. If you play .800 ball over 10 games and then play at your “true” level of .600 ball for another 10, your winning percentage is .700, not .600.
You are confusing sampling with measurement of a random variable. I also have a degree in Math (PhD) and although my specialty is not Stat, I know enough about it to believe you do not understand the idea of regression in general. Suggest you read, for example the following discussion which is focused on the regression toward the mean concept
as it pertains to the study of phenomena defined by the repeated (at least two occasions) assessment of a
particular variable:
http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/d....._mean1.pdf
I love this community.
Jayson Nix needs to steal Ichiro’s ticket to the sun.
I’ve got DARPA on the line ready to let us use the railgun.