Game 46: Aces on the Mound

2013 Draft: Sean Manaea
Update: Kuroda leaves game with brusied right calf
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The Yankees and Orioles have split the first two games of this three-game series, and both games were so close they needed a tenth inning. It’s been a continuation of last year, when these two clubs played tight game after tight game and fought for the division title right down the final week of the season.

With all due respect to CC Sabathia, the Yankees are sending their ace to the mound in the series finale today, hoping Hiroki Kuroda can send them into tomorrow’s off-day with a win and a five-game lead over Baltimore. Hopefully this one only takes nine innings. Here’s the lineup that will face righty Jason Hammel…

  1. CF Curtis Granderson
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. LF Vernon Wells
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. 1B Lyle Overbay
  6. 3B David Adams
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. SS Reid Brignac
  9. C Austin Romine first rookie to start four straight games behind the plate for the Yankees since Jorge Posada 1997

And on the bump is right-hander Hiroki Kuroda, who will be making his first career start at Camden Yards. He somehow avoided the ballpark last year and never faced the Orioles during interleague play while with the Dodgers.

It’s warm, cloudy, and humid in Baltimore, and at some point later tonight it’ll rain. Hopefully long after the game is over. First pitch is scheduled for 7:05pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and ESPN nationally. Enjoy.

Rotation Update: Vidal Nuno will start on Saturday, giving Sabathia, Phil Hughes, and Kuroda an extra day or rest. David Phelps is starting Friday as scheduled.

Injury Updates: Mark Teixeira (wrist) and Kevin Youkilis (back) both had six at-bats in a simulated game … Eduardo Nunez (ribcage) hit in the cage for the first time since being placed on the DL … Joba Chamberlain (oblique) threw an inning in Extended Spring Training game. A minor league rehab game with High-A Tampa is probably next.

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2013 Draft: Sean Manaea
Update: Kuroda leaves game with brusied right calf
  • trr

    Kuroda’s been money lately, let’s hope the offense puts up at least a 3-spot and we’ll win this game and this series-

  • Eddard

    Their ace is on the mound to take a road series against a divisional rival. You can’t ask for much more from this ballclub.

  • dkidd

    joba who?

  • dkidd

    has curtis ever led off for the yankees?

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      9 games (8 last year)

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    Man, I REALLY want to win this game.

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    Gotta think that extra day of rest is more for CC’s benefit than Hughes and Kuroda. Something tells me that his elbow still isn’t 100% after that surgery.

  • nycsportzfan

    This is a big game for us. Being up 5 or 3 games on Baltimore is a big diffrence. Heres to Kuroda pitching another gem, on his way to starting the AS game for the AL!

  • nycsportzfan

    I got a feeling the baby bombers are gonna do some damage tonight, talking about Adams and/or Romine.

    • nycsportzfan

      I should say i’m anticipating a good game from them, as its pretty good sign if they can hit pitchers like Hammel who should be very good against young righty hitting rookies.

  • nycsportzfan

    Nice hittin grandy!

  • Wheels

    Ok Curtis

  • Mykey

    Well, that’s a nice way to start.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Rodney just blew ANOTHER save!

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Lead off mentality. I like it.

  • Anderson Silva

    I’m worried there’s something wrong physically with Cano… he doesn’t look right at all

    • Mykey

      Well even for a bit of a slump, he’s leading the league in homers and is batting near 300.

      • Chris Davis

        I accept your challenge.

        • Troll

          Told you . . . :)

  • Cy Pettitte

    what a shitty AB by Cano

  • Mykey

    Ew Cano. He made up his mind to swing at that last week.

  • Tom

    Off topic, but Rodney just blew another save. For some reason I get a tremendous amount of joy knowing he won’t be able to do that stupid arrow schtick.

  • Mykey

    Ok. Let’s take some pitches now.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Up.the.ladder.

  • Anderson Silva

    Overbay has to hit that.. that was a hanger, middle of the plate.

  • Wheels

    Shit Lyle

  • Anderson Silva

    2 clobbered balls out of the first 3 hitters.. I wish our offense could do something like that.

  • Mykey

    Well great.

  • Troll

    You’ve got to love those first inning runs! WOOT WOOT!

  • Anderson Silva

    fucking pathetic..

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    well fuck

  • Mykey

    Hooray.

  • Wheels

    FUCK

  • Cy Pettitte

    what a stupid fucking pitch on 3-2. that spillover two seamer right in his wheelhouse. what the fuck.

  • dontchaknow

    okay then

  • nycsportzfan

    ugh

  • Mykey

    Really looking forward to our pitching getting out of this concerted slump.

  • Anderson Silva

    O’s hitter gets a junkball down the middle and hits it out. Yankees hitter gets a hanger right down the middle and fouls it off like a little pussy. This offense is a fucking joke

    • nycsportzfan

      Our offense will come through tonight, its up to Kuroda to keep it within reach and start getting outs.

  • nycsportzfan

    Jesus!

  • Wheels

    What the shit

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    Looking like an Adam Warren game.

  • your mom

    Game just started and it sucks already. Kuroda getting raped right now.

  • fabricio

    ichiro you dont have that arm anymore just get the ball in to cano

  • Will

    Geez. What the hell is up with Kuroda tonight? He’s not throwing any of his offspeed pitches at all.

  • Mykey

    Even Matt freakin’ Wieters hit the ball.

  • Troll

    When it rains, it pours . . . Let’s hope that Kuroda doesn’t pull a Hughes . . .

  • Eddard

    Can someone tell me what the hell Kuroda is doing? He’s leaving every pitch over the middle of the plate.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Bad command?

  • The Real Greg

    You call Hiroki Kuroda the “ace” and look what happens.

    • Troll

      He was bound to implode at some point. His electric pace wasn’t sustainable. He’s allowed a few stinkers now and then, it just sucks that this one comes after a rather disappointing extra-innings loss . . .

      • The Real Greg

        Pitchers do have bad starts. But the timing is still interesting. Everyone has handed Kuroda the “ace” tag and he goes out and does this.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          yeah, that’s why it happened. He clearly can’t handle pressure.

          • The Real Greg

            I never said that. I think it’s more like a jinx. I just find the timing very interesting.

      • Winter

        It’s the first inning. If he settles down and doesn’t give up any more runs it isn’t a stinker.

        • The Real Greg

          No it won’t. But it will be a probable loss.

        • Troll

          Tell that to Chris Davis. The mother fu**er is hungry tonight and he’s craving Japanese.

  • Anderson Silva

    Kuroda is really hitting the middle of the plate time after time. At least he’s consistent.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    All of this with 2 outs? God, I hate the Orioles more than the Sox.

    • Troll

      Don’t you dare!

    • Will

      I agree. I hate Buck Showalter and I dislike the chip on the shoulder attitude the whole team has. I can’t really say I dislike anyone on the Red Sox except maybe David Ortiz and even so I find him to be a cool guy when he’s not hitting three run homers at Yankee Stadium.

      • Troll

        Mutinous bastards!

        Dustin Pedroia! They’re all scum but he’s a rat.

      • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

        Yea, pretty much this. And also, their fans acted like total d-bags last year even though they were non existent prior to 2012.

  • Cy Pettitte

    2 outs on 3 pitches, 20 pitches and 3 runs later the inning is over. lovely.

  • Winter

    Hiroki Kuroda is a replacement level pitcher.

    • DC

      Are you qualified to make that statement?

  • Mykey

    Meh. Go Sens.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Kuroda 1-15 pitches: .327/.361/.455/.815

  • Tom

    The ball is carrying tonight… if Kuroda settles down like he usually does after the 1st inning, I still like the Yankees chances – if they stop swing at the first damn pitch anywhere near the strike zone.

  • Will

    Hopefully Hammels isn’t in his 2012 and we can have ourselves a gold ol’ fashioned Baltimore blowout. Three runs isn’t insurmountable.

    • Anderson Silva

      2013 Hammels sucks but still >>>> Yankees offense 2013

  • your mom

    Yankees will come back and win this game.

    • Wheels

      Thanks Kreskin

  • nycsportzfan

    I think these kids are gonna be good mix, and our offense is gonna get to Hammel. Dude has squat this yr!

  • nycsportzfan

    I like Adams stance. This kids the real deal!

  • nycsportzfan

    Rangers trade Travis Hafner and some pitcher to Indians for Eniar Diaz and some pitcher. Fail for Rangers GM.

  • Will

    Good at-bat by Adams even though he grounded out. And as I typing this I’m watching Ichiro’s pathetic at bat and he looks done.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Always lovely to tune in to a 3 run deficit.

    Gotta hope for a comeback here. Losing 2/3 to a team that had lost six straight home games coming in, and before going to a ballpark that this team absolutely blows in, would really fucking suck.

    • The Real Greg

      People are waiting with baited breath for that other shoe to fall. Even some Yankee fans are expecting that. That’s why the ratings have been down as well as attendance.

      • Kramerica Industries

        I’m…I’m not quite sure what the relevance of this comment is.

        And a potential two game skid does not connotate the dropping of the other shoe. I’ll wait until the midst of, like, a 2-8 skid or something to confirm that. I do think that such a run will come eventually, just hope that the Yankees establish solid cushioning to absorb the blow of it.

        In the meantime, if Kuroda can settle down, there’s no excuse for the Yankees offense to not make a run back into this.

        • Troll

          “. . . There’s no excuse for the Yankees offense to not make a run back into this.”

          Hi, I’m Reid Brignac. These are my friends, Austin, Ichiro, David, and Lyle. Have we met before?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        No.

        Don’t bother answering.

    • Troll

      Haven’t you realized that the Yankees are ALWAYS the cure to an ailing, slumping ball club?

      “Don’t worry, lads, we may’ve lost six in a row but the damn Yankees are heading into town! Let us feast!” – Buck Schowalter

  • nycsportzfan

    There ya go ichiro!!

  • Mykey

    There you go Ichiro.

  • nycsportzfan

    Wow, how did Brignac miss that 0-1 fastball?

    • The Real Greg

      Because he’s Reid Brigniac.

      • Mykey

        That is the main knock against him.

      • nycsportzfan

        Dude sucks.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      he’s Brignac

    • Anderson Silva

      Hammels is pitching to the middle of the plate just like Kuroda, but unfortunately this offense sucks terribly

  • nycsportzfan

    Hammel’s throwing fastballs over the plate, just gotta make the dude pay!

  • Karl Krawfid

    Gonna be a long night with this K zone

    • your mom

      Or a quick one.

  • Troll

    The bottom half of this lineup is nauseating. Me thinks it’s going to be a long night. And, just as I typed that, I realized that somebody else shares this sentiment.

  • Eddard

    Romine is actually worse than Stewart if that’s possible. Frankie can’t get back soon enough.

    • Troll

      It’s called JR Murphy and/or Gary Sanchez. I am 100% confident that either one of them will be better than Romine. For once, just ONCE, I’d like to see the Yankees “rush” a prospect through the system. GIVE THE KIDS A CHANCE! EXCEPT IF THAT “KID” IS AUSTIN ROMINE! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Neither of them do much for me, baseball wise

        • Troll

          But sexually?

          They’re better than Romine and Stewart. That’s my point.

  • The Real Greg

    Yeah remember when everybody wanted Romine to play ahead of Stewart?

    Here you go.

    • Troll

      What about those of us who didn’t want either of them? Huh, Greg? What about US?!

      • The Real Greg

        Take the necessary evil and don’t complain.

        • Troll

          Ha. Wow. You just told someone else not to complain. My brain . . . it . . . LKJndjah*(@hfbHAKJdkjNAJKHF3091rFJHA

          . . . . . . . . . .

  • Get Phelps Up

    And the Rays lose. Rodney and Farnsworth strike again.

    • Kramerica Industries

      That was the definition of an 0-2 emergency cut from Bautista.

      The BABIP gods were smiling on the Jays on that one.

    • Brian S.

      With the Rays and Sox losing two of their series’ I’m not too worried about this Baltimore snafu gong on.

  • Wheels

    What the hell is up with Youk?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Oh fuck no.

  • Brian S.

    Oh no the Yankees might lose a series and still be in first place.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Do I just wait for Greg to say it, or can I jump in and say it first?

      • Brian S.

        Way too much bitterness and panic in this thread. Everyone should just smoke and relax.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Everyone is relaxed. A couple of guys on a game thread aren’t. One’s named “Greg.” Shit happens.

          • Brian S.

            But is everyone high?

            • Troll

              Let’s hope not. I don’t affiliate myself with stoners and deadbeats.

              • vicki

                then you should probably leave.

                • Troll

                  Ew, Vicki. Bloodshot Red is NOT a good color on you.

                  • vicki

                    shows what you know.

                    • Troll

                      I am the ghost of Lilly Pulitzer. I know my colors.

                    • vicki

                      you delight, strange man.

  • Troll

    Nate McClouth has more stolen bases than Brett Gardner. I would NOT have predicted that . . . Who am I kidding? Of course I would’ve.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      You would’ve predicted McClouth would be leading the AL in SB with his highest SB total since 2009 by May 22?

      What are tonight’s powerball numbers?

      • Troll

        Really? We’re going with the whole “Powerball” shtick again? My statement was more a reflection on Gardner’s waste of speed on the base-paths and general ineptitude regarding theft.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Really.
          I really want the winning numbers.

          • Troll

            Sad that you have to rely on the lottery for an income that will never come. Get a job, ya bum.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

              I got a job. I’m trying to afford Legend’s seats.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Enough of this two out bullshit already.

    And injury to insult that Kuroda got hit there.

  • Mykey

    That’s what we need.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Guess Kuroda needs to stop them here huh

  • your mom

    2nd time thru the order, time to do some damage.

  • Mykey

    So the lead off experiment is working.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Joe G says Curtis is about to break out.

    Curtis breaks out.

    Amazing.

  • vicki

    grandy’s leadoff and cf splits. stay tuned.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      He’s only led off 9 tines I think, kind of a SSS but let’s see the data!

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Last three years 37 AB leading off: .135/.250/.270/.520

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        9 times for the Yankees.
        A lot for Detroit.

      • Get Phelps Up

        9 games leading off for the Yankees. Career as a leadoff hitter .270/.344/.482 in 558 games.

        • Rolling Doughnut

          Too bad he’s it’s not 2006 anymore.

      • vicki

        it was a very slight binder joke.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Thought we were talking about his Yankee stats. His leadoff stats in Detroit don’t say much about what he will do/is dong now.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Neither do his leadoff stats with the Yankees.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          He’ll hit exactly how he’s hit in other lineup spots given enough plate appearances.

          • vicki

            this fact won’t keep joe from over-weighting a small sample.

  • your mom

    Yuck Wells.

  • nycsportzfan

    Keep on walking baby! Pronk with the eye!

  • your mom

    Why first pitch swing Overbay?

  • Anderson Silva

    great great AB by Overbay and great decision to hit him 4th… it’s impossible to win with this garbage

    • Robinson Tilapia

      They’re in first place.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        And he’s hitting 5th.

        • FIPster Doofus

          And he has a .389 wOBA against righties.

  • Troll

    Thanks, Lyle “1 Pitch and Ditch” Overbay.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Yay for the Chaz Ortiz bullshit getting dragged up again.

  • nycsportzfan

    Doo Doo.

  • Troll

    Number 15 for Number 19? Coming up!

  • nycsportzfan

    Come on Kuroda, give a chance!

  • nycsportzfan

    Gonna have to sneak one by upstairs on Davis Kuroda

  • Joshua

    Just read an article saying that YES Network Yankee game ratings are way down. I’m kinda sad but happy at the same time. Sad because I fear that the franchise in general might be in a slump. But I’m slightly optimistic because maybe the Steinbrenners will get sweaty and for fear of revenue loss will get this franchise where it needs to be.

  • Troll

    Quick, Mike Axisa. Write a quick blurb about Ichiro, Brignac and Romine being bums unworthy of a Yankee uniform. Do it. You have the power!

  • nycsportzfan

    I knew he’d be on one of those pitches low in the zone ater seein so many from kuroda. Hes got nothing tonight.

  • nsalem

    With Jones on second, Kuroda’s 1st pitch was mishandled by Romine. The umpire immediately through out another ball to Kuroda. If Jone’s had taken off for third would play have been considered dead although Jone’s had a legitimate chance of taking third. I’m assuming play would be considered dead as soon as the ump through out the second ball.

    • Troll

      In a way, we’re all considered dead.

      • nsalem

        some more than others

        • vicki

          spoiler alert: we’re all future food.

  • your mom

    Shit, not good. Hopefully just precautionary.

  • Eddard

    Kuroda going down might be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. You can only hold on with this many replacements for so long.

    • nycsportzfan

      Very scary shit.

  • nycsportzfan

    Claiborne needs to have a serious hoodini act here. Come on Rook!

  • Mykey

    We’re cursed.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Not the shot he took off the leg. Back?

  • Kramerica Industries

    That’s wraps.

    Awful series.

  • Mykey

    Bye guys.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Kuroda out and now 6-1. Whatever man. Yanks need to invest in bubble wrap.

  • Cy Pettitte

    fucking lovely, the O’s were on a losing streak and they had a chance to kick them while they were down, instead they give them a big walk off win and then get destroyed by them the next day.

    • nycsportzfan

      Bottom line, were still in 1st with the kinda injuries we’ve had. Thats remarkable. Were gonna have 2game losing streaks from time to time. It happens.

    • vicki

      we gave up two runs in the game we lost. and this youk- (and cervelli-) free lineup has the league’s lowest wrc+ and woba over the last thirty days. i don’t know how much kicking could’ve been expected.

  • nycsportzfan

    That sucks.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Outclassed with runners on.

    They get them in.

    We don’t.

  • Eddard

    Everything seemed to crumble these last two games. At least they took 1/3.

  • Troll

    Well, I rather it be a blowout than another pathetic display by the offense. I feel better now.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Best wishes to #HIROK. Hope it’s not much.

    Again, with what this team’s overcome thus far, I don’t question their ability to get past anything. Someone else will have to rise up in the interim.

  • http://twitter.com/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    If the Yankees had any sense of humor they would buy one of those signs that say “This workplace has worked safely without a lost time injury in __ days” like you see outside factories and mills.

  • nycsportzfan

    This ones not close to over. We get a couple runs were right back in this.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Scoring runs is the one thing we don’t do well.

      • nycsportzfan

        We have our moments. I could see this being one of those games, as Hammel isn’t special, but after this lack luster bottom 4th, i’m starting to see the loss coming.

        • WhittakerWalt

          Well they just let him off the hook with a 7 pitch inning. Not the way to make him work, guys.

  • wow

    well, the subs’ subs weren’t going to get it done forever.

    let’s hope they ditch the useless fiscal restraints and actually field a viable, sustainable team moving forward.

  • Travis L.

    The biggest Wieter on that team just took Claiborne deep. What a dick.

  • nycsportzfan

    Fucking rally cap time!

  • your mom

    Well if the O’s keep this up Mike won’t have to worry about extra innings. Damn, I hate the O’s!!!

  • your mom

    Hammel has a run support of 7 runs per outing. Sickening.

  • WhittakerWalt

    All this talk of Aces has ruined everything.

  • nycsportzfan

    God, i hate ripping line drives at someone!

  • nycsportzfan

    How do you miss that 0-1 pitch, ichiro? Come on man! Get on!

  • wow

    at least we still have all the sponsorship money from Sapporo

  • Get Phelps Up

    At least we’re not the Rays or Boston who aren’t in first place and lost series to worse teams than the Orioles.

    • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

      Too lazy to double check but the last time I looked at the Sox schedule it looked like they’ve had it quite easy so far.

      • Get Phelps Up

        26/47 (55%) of their games so far were against teams .500 or under.

        • Get Phelps Up

          Yankees have had 18/46 (39%) against teams .500 or under.

        • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

          Well, there you have it then. We’ve been playing better than them against tougher competition. Bodes well for when the regulars return.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Man, how does this plucky Orioles team with a middle of the road payroll and several key players in their prime years manage to stay in 3rd place with a .533 winning percentage?

    /ESPN’d

    • Hall and Nokes

      I know most of you aren’t getting this but it’s weird. They’ve been going on for 8 minutes now. It’s like they’re talking about the Spurs at this point.

  • nycsportzfan

    So Nuno is facing Moore on saturday and Sabathia is facing Cobb on sunday?

  • nycsportzfan

    Are we even gonna make this interesting?

  • Get Phelps Up

    Grandy a triple away from the cycle.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Welcome to 2013, Curtis

  • fabricio

    oh curtis you’re something sort of grandish

  • Eddard

    Grandy’s getting back in the groove of things so that’s one positive at least.

  • nycsportzfan

    Well, that helps. Grandy man looking good!

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Tomorrow morning, what I’ll remember most, no matter what, is KING CURTIS being back.

    • your mom

      Granderson at 100% is definitely what this offense needs. Now only if we could get some offensive production out of our SS and C.

  • nycsportzfan

    A grand slam away!

  • your mom

    We’re getting a little BABIP screwed tonight again.

    • Winter

      If the BABIP Gods hate you, they don’t let up after just one game.

  • nycsportzfan

    One is a start, but not really gonna cut it. Gotta have a multiple run scoring inning soon!

  • Cy Pettitte

    what is their BABIP for this series? must be like .200, the number of line drive outs they’ve made is ridiculous.

  • nycsportzfan

    I hate going down to the trop after losing 2of3. Hopefully we turn things around down there.

    • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

      I hate going to the Trop anytime. Is Price still on the DL? Hope so.

      • Winter

        Price could probably shut out the Yankees throwing right-handed.

        • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

          Nah, its the lefties that give us trouble.

    • Winter

      Five runs in four innings is very possible. Don’t give up yet.

  • your mom

    See what I mean, BABIP fucked.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    O’s D is just unbelievable.

    • Cy Pettitte

      more like every Yankee hard hit ball is right at them. I don’t think a defender has had to take more than 5 steps this series.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        You sound like Greg. Their D has been stellar. They’ve made some hellacious plays. AND there have been some hard hit balls directly at somebody.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

    What is it with first base umpires in Baltimore?

  • Get Phelps Up

    Come back starts now. Who’s with me?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Always, although I’ll admit the game is on the small end of picture-in-picture right now with the Heat game on.

  • nycsportzfan

    Overbays been terrible tonight. Come on, get a freaking rally going!

  • your mom

    Reid Brignac sucks. I’m talking Ben Francisco level suckness.

  • nycsportzfan

    Boring.

  • your mom

    LOL standing ovation for Hammel from the home crowd……

  • SDB

    Just logged on to see a 6-2 scoreline and Hiroki injured. Has the game been that bad? Any positives, at all?

    I seriously hate the Orioles. At least the Sox are a little more tolerable now without Gonzalez, Beckett and Papelbon (whose existence I can’t stand).

    • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

      I agree wholeheartedly re: Orioles. They need to just die like everyone said they were going to this year.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Granderson seems to be finding his stroke. I’d say that’s a huge positive.

  • WhittakerWalt

    I love Cano, and I want them to re-sign him, but a .337 OBP is pretty fucking lousy.

    • Troll

      Especially when you compare it to Pedroia’s . . . .

      • Get Phelps Up

        Cano 138 OPS+
        Pedroia 129

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          But Cano doesn’t hop in the field when pitches are thrown.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Male pattern baldness and rat teeth also make up the nine point deficit there.

        • Troll

          He referenced Cano’s ON BASE PERCENTAGE. So I responded with Pedroia’s ON BASE PERCENTAGE, which is .426, nearly .100 higher than Cano’s .335. No one’s talking about
          “OPS+”. Sorry.

          • Get Phelps Up

            You’re the one who brought up Pedroia and cherrypicked his OBP to try and say he’s better than Cano. There are many players who have a higher OBP than Cano and worse overall numbers.

            • Get Phelps Up

              And OPS+ also factors in OBP.

            • Troll

              Cherrypicked? What what what?

              Jesus Christ. Yankees. Red Sox. Second Basemen. Two players that are consistently compared to one another. Walt brought up Cano’s OBP. I brought up Pedroia’s OBP. Why don’t you mention WAR? Everyone around here seems to love that advanced sabremetric . . .

              Nowhere did I say that Pedroia is better than Cano, but do you know what is (aside from his WAR)? Pedroia’s ON-BASE PERCENTAGE, which is the ONLY statistic that I mentioned.

              News flash, Pedroia nearly leads the league in walks, which contributes to his significantly higher (and elite) OBP. Ugh. You’re like the gym rat that butts into a conversation about poodles and croissants just so you can flex your useless, trivial muscles that nobody gives a sh*t about. Thank you for your input, but it was not pertinent to the exchange.

              • Get Phelps Up

                WAR is not the only advanced sabermetric that shows Cano is better.

                Yes, you never came out and said you think Pedroia is better. It sure seems like you pointed that OBP difference out to laud Pedroia or shit on Cano.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  But do you have an advanced degree in statistics?

                  • Get Phelps Up

                    I’m still trying to figure out what a league average OPS+ is.

                • Troll

                  Cano’s been my favorite player since he replaced Tony Womack (well, he was – occasionally still is) and Pedroia bears the brunt of my utter disdain for anything red socked. But, as much I hate to admit it, Pedroia’s having a sick year thus far, which is all but highlighted with Magic Marker in the midst of Cano’s contract year and current debilitating slump, which he’s made a custom of over the past few years.

                  • Get Phelps Up

                    Cano is having a sicker year though.

                    • Get Phelps Up

                      Despite his slump.

                    • Troll

                      Yes, he is having a great season thus far, but there’s no way around his abysmal OBP . . . Cano is better than that. At least, well, I hope he is.

                    • Get Phelps Up

                      The OBP will improve.
                      For now the 13 homers and .563 SLG will have to make up for it.

                  • Doubting Thomas

                    You’re a Sox fan. Just admit it. It’s okay. You get some kind of weird thrill posing as a Yankees fan on blogs. It could just be a phase. Or might not. You should seek professional help.

                    • Troll

                      Sh!t. You caught me. Your mother tastes phenomenal, by the way.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                Because Pedroia’s OBP is relevant to whether or not Cano’s OBP is lousy.

                • Troll

                  I can’t believe that I just replied to your comment. What a complete waste of my time. May Mo have mercy on your soul and mine too for giving into your asinine hooey.

                  • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

                    Right. Because what you did isn’t exactly the same thing as what you ripped Phelps for doing.

                    Cano’s OBP is even more lousy when compared to Miggy or Votto.

                    /equally irrelevant to the original point

                    • Troll

                      Again. I hate myself. Face. Palm.

      • WhittakerWalt

        I wasn’t really comparing it to anyone. I just wish Cano was getting on base more, like I know he can. He’s not making much of a case for an 8-year deal right now.

  • Tom

    Damn, I hate the ESPN announcers.

    “The Yankees haven’t relied on the HR that much this year; the Orioles are among the best”

    2013 HR Totals coming into tonight
    Yankees: 56
    Orioles: 56

    • WhittakerWalt

      You weren’t really expecting rational thought from John Kruk and Orel Hershiser, were you?

  • Eddard

    If I had a vote for ROY I’d vote for Adam Warren.

    • Troll

      Speaking of Middle-Relievers . . . Boston’s Alex Wilson hasn’t been terrible. But, Eddard, let’s be honest here, Warren is never going to win ROY.

  • WhittakerWalt

    I know it’s only one game, but it just feels like we’re being outclassed by the Orioles. I hate that feeling, because it’s irrational.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      This is what every waking second is like for Greg.

  • ArchStanton

    I was hoping to at least see Betances in this game to see how he looks in relief now. Oh well.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Any word on Kuroda?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Bruise. There’s an updated thread.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        OK thanks

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I think he’s back out there in five days. I have an advanced degree in statistics and guessmatronics.

          • SDB

            But can you be an asshole about guessmatronics and heteroskedasticity as well? What’s the use of a degree if you can’t flaunt it?

            • Robinson Tilapia

              If you have to resort to flaunting it here, probably nothing.

  • Eddard

    Nobody cleans up in middle relief like Adam Warren.

  • DC

    Adams!

  • SDB

    David is Goliath? Really, that’s Sterling’s call?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      At least hum the Addams Family theme or something. :)

  • Wheels

    Oh Ichiro

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Brignac is Fransisco-like.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      That was quick.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Brignac was Fransisco-like tonight

  • Get Phelps Up

    And we are now…still in first place.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Despite this game thread.

      • Get Phelps Up

        And a replacement level 4th starter.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          But mostly this game thread.

      • Troll

        Oh, really? Because, I mean, it’s not like a newly crowned ace completely shit the bed and left the game with an injury . . . No, people have no right to react to a lineup that features a slew of scrubs with no business being in the show. So, yeah, let’s get all passive-aggressive and attack fans with a snarky undertone because they’re disappointed their team didn’t at least take 2 of 3 from a slumping division rival. Everyone has a right to vent, yell, and blow shit out of proportion. Let them. Comments like this . . . why? What does it add? There’s no substance. The Yankees are still in first place. Great. We’re all happy with that, but some of these fine denizens are distressed by tonight’s outcome and they have every right to be.

        • BFDeal

          Hi Rainbow.

  • Troll

    Brignac for President!

  • Wheels

    Don’t trip, we’re a good team

    • Troll

      . . . . Meh. The lineup is still nauseating. I rather have anal warts than watch Romine and Brignac play in pinstripes.

      • Wheels

        lol

        • Troll

          . . . I spoke too soon.

          • Troll

            Nope. All good. Just jock itch.

  • SDB

    Nobody even mentioned Prussia once during this game thread. No calls to pitch or bat for Prussia, and 6-2 with Kuroda getting hurt. Can someone with an advanced degree in statistics confirm if this is a reasonable correlation?