Jun
05

Game 59: Just Win (Yet Again)

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The Indians are reeling and the Yankees have taken advantage these last two days, walking away with two much-needed wins. They’ll send their Opening Day starter to the mound looking for the sweep this afternoon before heading to the West Coast for one of those pleasant ten games in 12 days trips. Given how much they’ve struggled these last two weeks or so, I’m sure traveling out west on the heels of a sweep sure would make the flight much more pleasant. Here’s the lineup that will face righty Corey Kluber…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. 2B Robinson Cano
  3. 1B Mark Teixeira
  4. DH Travis Hafner
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. RF Lyle Overbay
  7. 3B Kevin Youkilis
  8. SS Jayson Nix
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is the 2007 Players Choice Outstanding Pitcher of the Year award winner, southpaw CC Sabathia.

We’ve got perfect baseball weather in New York this afternoon, so this will be one of those games you watch on television and really wish you could be in the stands under the blue sky with the cool breeze in your face instead. First pitch is scheduled for 1:05pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.

Injury News: Derek Jeter (ankle) is headed to Tampa today and will have a check-up to see if he can begin ramping up his workouts.

Categories : Game Threads
  • The Real Greg

    I would have Wells and Youkilis. Wells has gone into the Antarctic and I don’t think he’s good in the 5 hole.

    • Pat D

      You would have Wells and Youkilis?

      How so? Over for dinner? Executed for their crimes? Unspeakable things?

      :)

      • Jersey Joe

        “Have” their head?

        • Pat D

          Don’t ask me.

  • trr

    Would love to be at the game today instead of sitting in my office dealing with everybody elses’s …..you get the idea.

    So let’s win this one, sweep, and head out to a tough W/C trip on a positive note…and hope Derek gets positive news!

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    Prussia this is for?

    • SDB

      For Prussia.

      For the Kaiser.

      For a sweep.

    • trr

      Yes Yoda, For Prussia!

    • MannyGeee

      Oh fo sho

  • PFOJ

    Let’s pound these clowns.

    • Jersey Joe

      Da. For Prussia.

      • lightSABR

        That’s “Ja.” “Da” would be Russia.

        (Sorry, German nerd.)

  • Darren

    What’s been going on with Z Almonte and Musty? Can’t we bring up on eof thos eguys to get a couple of starts instead of Wells? Even if Wells isn’t done (again), I’m sure he can use a breather.

    Or why not play Ichiro who’s been on a hot streak?

  • Pat D

    Cindy from Lee’s Toyota has put on weight since that first commercial.

    • trr

      What of Meredith Marakovits, she of the crooked smile?

      • FEED.ME.MORE!

        Don’t not besmirch the good looks of Tha Rak!!!!

      • Pat D

        She hasn’t changed.

  • Kramerica Industries

    A win today would salvage a 4-4 homestand.

    I would take that in a heartbeat, all things considered.

    • Joe r

      What if all things werent considered?

      • PFOJ

        It depends, which things are you considering not considering?

      • trr

        LOL, still want that win!

    • Brian S.

      Naw. Fuck losing to the Roid Sox.

      • The Doctor

        Considering we have two players on the Biogenesis list and they have none, I’m a little wary of using that insult…

      • WhittakerWalt

        You’re really going to take a high-and-mighty stance about PEDs? After all we know?

  • Wheels

    Nice!

  • Cy Pettitte

    looks like Pronk is coming out of his slump, nice.

    • Jersey Joe

      Hmmm. Yes, indeed young grasshopper.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Pronk!!

  • Wheels

    Pronk is back.

  • The Real Greg

    I loved his reaction to that home run. He didn’t admire it, he just turned his head away from it and started to jog.

  • PFOJ

    Listening to Sterling call Cano’s double/Bourn’s two base error was quite the chore. I’m still not really sure what happened.

    • The Doctor

      Robbie hit the ball hard, Bourn cruised over to try and catch it underhanded and it went off his glove.

      There was that so hard John?

    • FEED.ME.MORE!

      I’m still not really sure John Sterling knows what really happened.

      FTFY

  • Brian S.

    I gotta go to work soon but I figured I’d get in a CC is not an ace and void A-Rod etc. etc.

  • MannyGeee

    1.5 IP in, we’ve got a Pronkx Bomber, a dropped fly ball from Bourn that Yasiel Puig would have caught with his eyes closed, and CC running game.

    • MannyGeee

      Editors note: In case you missed the sarcasm, the Puig comment was the sarcasm. I swear if he gets another hit or makes another catch tonight the InterWebs might catch fire…

  • Winter

    Jaron Long?

  • MannyGeee

    Nix is a baseball player in 3……2……

    • Winter

      PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER!

  • Wheels

    Come on Stewart, atone.

    • Wheels

      Gardy! 6-0!!!

  • Cy Pettitte

    how does one strike out 32 guys in one game? a lot of strike 3 passed balls?

    • Cy Pettitte

      never mind, extra innings.

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    GARDY!

  • Cy Pettitte

    uh holy shit, that was no cheap HR for Gardy

    • The Doctor

      He’s hit some absolute bombs this year. Doesn’t exactly have a swing tailored for power but he’s a pretty strong guy so when he gets a hold of the ball it can go a loooong way.

  • Winter

    I think I’ve found a solution to the Yankees offensive troubles: Play the Indians 103 more times.

    • number 21

      Or the Blue Jays

    • MannyGeee

      Yankees to teh AL Central!!!!

      • FEED.ME.MORE!

        We do have Central Park here in NY……

        Can any other city make that claim>?

  • The Real Greg

    Slider down and in. We have liftoff.

    That’s their 3 straight game with a 4 run inning. And most of them have come against Cleveland

    • The Real Greg

      5 of their 8 4+ run innings have come against Cleveland.

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    Only problem with Gardner’s HR displays is it hurts his Gritty White Guy Rating.

    • Winter

      Dustin Pedroia hits 15-20 a year. GWG status can survive a little power.

      • FEED.ME.MORE!

        Fair enough. Noone talks about his HR’s though. It’s his big swing, neck beard and dirty uni that earned him Gritty God status.

  • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

    Too many home runs!!!!

  • King George

    Thankfully, it seems the bats have finally come out of their slumber.

  • sevrox

    I’m not unimpressed with Chris Stewart’s throwing out 7 of 14 basestealers or his near .280 batting average.

    • FEED.ME.MORE!

      Yeah, who needs a backup Catcher basically making the minimum to do THAT?

      • The Doctor

        I think we’d all be ok with him as a backup catcher. If anything, he’s an above average backup. His career numbers still show that he has no real business being a starter.

    • The Doctor

      He’s allowed some untimely passed balls and is a career .610 OPS hitter. There’s every reason to groan a bit when he’s in the lineup, but I would absolutely take his results to this point going forward.

  • nsalem

    What’s Sterling’s call on Gardner Home Runs?

    • JLC 776

      I think it’s “Gardy goes yardy” or something dumb like that.

    • Darren

      He also throws in a “Gardner plants one”

  • Winter

    In-tern-ship. In case anyone cares what I think.

  • Wheels

    Overbay will be tested when he has to use his judgement on a tricky liner falling in front of him.

  • The Real Greg

    Starting to get a little feeling about CC here….

    • FEED.ME.MORE!

      ….not that there’s anything wrong with that…..

  • JLC 776

    Damn… non-ace is dealing today!

  • The Doctor

    Nice inning by CC; someone should really teach Kay not to use the word perfect to describe it.

    • lightSABR

      Why? Three up, three down–that’s a perfect inning, right?

      • lightSABR

        Ah, you meant to avoid the jinx. Which we apparently failed to do.

        But hey, 14 outs of a perfect game ain’t bad.

  • Cy Pettitte

    35 pitches through 3 is awesome, would be a good day to give the bullpen off

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    You know, I just started reading the Fire Joe Morgan archives for the first time.

    I can see why it attained legendary status. I think I’m in love.

    • SamWalt

      I miss it so much.

  • lightSABR

    Darn. The Yankees finally went an inning without a man on base.

    Nevertheless, a sweet game so far.

  • Kramerica Industries

    The answer has to be Chase Utley and Ryan Howard for the Phillies.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Votto/Phillips & Howard/Utley

    • FEED.ME.MORE!

      Yeah I would have to think it’s Howard and Utley.

      • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

        I believe they asked which “two” combinations, right?

        • Kramerica Industries

          Oh, yes. I thought it was only one.

          And correct on both counts.

        • FEED.ME.MORE!

          Yeah, you are right.

    • Kramerica Industries

      Jeez, has Votto really been in the majors for six seasons now?

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    CC looks insanely nasty today.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    I see CC’s on today. Who did the damage for us?

    • The Doctor

      Pronk with a 2 run shot, Stewart with an RBI single, and Gardner with a 3 run shot.

    • Winter

      Pronk had a huge 2 run homer, Gardner hit a 3 run shot. Stewart chipped in an RBI single.

      • Kramerica Industries

        Too Many Homeruns.

        • Winter

          Fire Kevin Long.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Thanks.

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    In honor of Eddard and his Big Game David Phelps lunacy, I’ve begun to think of our starting pitchers in four letter abbreviations.

    NACS – Non Ace CC Sabathia
    CAHR – Current Ace Hiroki Kuroda
    BGDP – Big Game David Phelps
    FPPH – Future Padre Phil Hughes
    FAMP – Future Ace Michael Pineda
    TJMB – Tommy John Manny Banuelos
    TBIN – Trade Bait Ivan Nova
    JMVN – Jamie Moyer Vidal Nuno

    • JLC 776

      HGHC – HGH Cervelli?
      BBSJ – Brittle Bone Syndrome Jeter?

      It’s more fun when they’re decidedly negative!

      • FEED.ME.MORE!

        LOL, to an extent, yes.

        Cervelli should be FPFC – Fist Pump Francisco Cervelli
        OBDJ – Old Bones Derek Jeter
        PBJN – Professional Ballplayer Jayson Nix
        SOAR – Snitched Out Alex Rodriguez
        UHMT – Unjustifiably Hated Mark Tiexiera
        BBTH – Brittle Bone Travis Hafner
        PFCS – Pitch Framer Chris Stewart
        GGBG – Gritty Gutty Brett Gardner (not my creation)

  • The Real Greg

    Oh boy…

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Swisher always seems much worse than his stats. Hoe can that be?

    • Kramerica Industries

      Well, he’s slumping right now as it is (I’ve seen now the last six Indians games and I don’t remember him getting a single hit in that time) and we all have preconceived notions of Swisher by this point, and his playoff incompetence. We tend to remember the bad.

      • Rolling Doughnut

        Yes indeed. I wasn’t big on Swish when he was with the Bombers, thought he choked too much. But actually his splits WRISP and in high leverage situations were good. Sabermetrics to the rescue –again.

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      Because he doesn’t get a ton of hits and normally hits less than 30 HRs. His main value is in walks and his above-average, but not quite elite, power. So he’s not at all flashy.

      I always loved Swishy. One of my all-time favorite players.

  • JLC 776

    Man… game shifted to “hurry up” mode!

    • The Real Greg

      It’s because of what CC’s done. Or hasn’t done so far.

      • JLC 776

        I concur.

  • J-Money

    MLB network is taking the Yankees game off to show the Atlanta game because their starter has a no hitter in the 7th. Unbelievable. Who cares

  • MannyGeee

    John Sterling keeps saying the “P word”… He’s gonna blow it for CC.

    • The Doctor

      Everyone just turn off your radios. If a John Sterling uses the P-word and no one’s around to hear it, does it blow a P-word?

      The answer is yes apparently.

  • The Doctor

    Well that campfire meeting was a little frightening..

  • The Real Greg

    Bloop single. Oh well

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    DAMN YOU VERNON WELLS FOR NOT GETTING A GOOD RUN AND DIVING!!!!!

    Slightly kidding

    • The Doctor

      He’s honestly been really pissing me off with some of his bad jumps lately. Guarantee that catch is made no problem if Gardner’s out there. Hell Ichiro would probably have a better chance.

      • J-Money

        I wonder if that would have been Overbay’s last inning in the field if he still had the perfecto

    • WhittakerWalt

      Don’t worry he’s making up for it with his bat.
      Heh.

  • The Doctor

    I blame Sterling.

  • JLC 776

    Somehow you knew it would be Aviles after his (rightful) tantrum yesterday.

    • The Real Greg

      No I thought it would be Swisher.

  • Pat D

    Oh, well. Tough luck.

  • MannyGeee

    I blame that bloop on John FN Sterling. No sooner did he say “CC has 14 up and 14 down” that Aviles of all people bloops one to LF

    • The Doctor

      Well there’s nothing wrong with that, but I do understand he was saying “perfect” a bit more than is preferable. I know it’s really all just superstition but it’s kind of amazing that you can be around the game as long as Sterling has and not know that you’re not supposed to say it.

      • MannyGeee

        completely agree. He of all people should know better.

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    We need to clone Brett Gardner, or get Austin Jackson back. No bloops.

  • Winter

    Why can’t Gardner play all three OF positions at the same time? He would have caught that ball.

  • JLC 776

    Sterling throws the ‘Perfect Game’ thing around very liberally – has been ever since 1997. He used to flaunt that there’s nothing I can do or say that affects the game.

    • The Doctor

      It doesn’t make sense to me. Yes, it’s technically true, but no one’s bigger than the game and it is a very long standing tradition that you don’t talk about it. Sterling has quite the ego for a completely inaccurate play by play guy.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        For my money, who cares? It’s stupid. don’t be an ass and make a big deal about how your flaunting tradition, but I really don’t give a shit whether or not you talk about it. It’s true, it doesn’t matter. Don’t be a dick and act all proud of yourself about it, but it really affects nothing.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          Holy shitty punctuation and spelling, Batman!

      • JLC 776

        From what I understand, and from what I perceive from listening to him, Sterling does indeed have a huge ego.

      • WhittakerWalt

        He also has a really smug attitude about umpires being slow to make strike calls. This is coming from Sterling, whose idea of calling a game is “swung on….popped………….foul…..to the right side and out of play” which takes about 10 seconds to say when he could have said “fouled away” in 1.5 seconds.

  • WhittakerWalt

    According to John Flaherty, the Yankees are scoring runs in this series because “the players are more relaxed.”
    John Flaherty is a moron.

    As I write this, Cano swings through a shoulder-high fastball. He’s so relaxed!

    • The Doctor

      It might have something to do with having your first baseman who’s on pace to be a borderline Hall of Famer back, not to mention your similarly great third baseman. Not to mention Pronk’s breaking out of a slump.

      It’s all just relaxation. Do team masseuses count against the luxury tax? I think that’s the new market inefficiency.

      • WhittakerWalt

        Just remember, lots of people didn’t want Tex to come back.

        • MannyGeee

          “Lots of people” almost went Hari Kari when the Yankees didn’t sign Nate Scheiroltz, so fuck “lots of people”…

          • Pat D

            “Lots of people” do “lots of things” that “I don’t like” so, I agree, fuck “lots of people.”

            • MannyGeee

              Pat gets me…

              • Pat D

                Speaking in generalities is so much more fulfilling than being specific.

          • WhittakerWalt

            I didn’t say I agreed with them. I also see people like Eddard rubbing their hands together at the idea of ARod getting suspended, then bitch and moan that the the same thing could happen to Cervelli. Which is kind of insane.

            • Pat D

              I was saying the same last night. Glad I’m not alone in that thinking.

            • Jim Is Bored

              It’s Eddard though.

  • The Doctor

    Pronk’s walk back to the dugout reminds me a bit of this

    http://youtu.be/sGYw8C2Zgr0

    Yankee Stadium should make this the new official strikeout song.

    • Pat D

      I’m partial to The Price Is Right losing horn.

    • Winter
      • The Doctor

        Yes I’m not stupid I know what it’s originally from.

      • Pat D

        Christmas in June! Love it!

  • Bryan

    I am not able to watch the game at work. Therefore I find this 1pm game to be completely unfair and bull. I demand the Yankees only play 7pm games Tuesday through Friday! I work from home on Mondays so I can watch it still.

    • Pat D

      I guess you’ll be real happy with them playing at 10 the next two nights, huh?

      • Bryan

        Mother effer!

        That’s weak.

        • Pat D

          They’re doing the old 3 city west coast trip the next 10 days. 5 of those games will be at 10.

  • Pat D

    Well this is poopy. Two extremely weak grounders and one that Teix can’t quite get.

    YCPB

  • JLC 776

    This game isn’t as fun as it was a few minutes ago.

  • WhittakerWalt

    Hating these hits.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    This inning sucks.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Cano should have charged that stubbs grounder.

    • WhittakerWalt

      You’ve heard of some guys who pitch to the score? Cano plays defense to the score.

      • MannyGeee

        Pedroia would have gritted and willed that ball into the DP.

  • teddy

    arggh now is game, because of 4 weak grounders

  • The Real Greg

    Only 1 hard hit ball in the inning and they have 2 runs.

    • Pat D

      YCPB

  • WhittakerWalt

    Wake the fuck up, guys.

  • The Doctor

    Infield single, hit and run, deflected single, and a bad throw has turned what was once a perfect game into 2 runs. Not like giving up 2 runs is bad but it’s frustrating to see such a dominant performance look more ordinary.

  • Pat D

    Teheran just lost the no-no with 2 out in the 8th.

    In other news, I think “The Internship” looks like a flaming pile of shit.

    • WhittakerWalt

      Yeah but they sponsored the Game Summary!

    • pat

      The Onion does as the Onion is wont to do:

      http://www.theonion.com/video/.....005,32682/

      • Pat D

        Sounds about right.

        That group of Vaughn/Wilson/Ferrell/Stiller/Black is seeing their stars start to fade a bit already. They’re being replaced by that Rogen/Segel/Hill/Franco group.

        Which is also getting tiresome.

  • The Real Greg

    And Teheren loses his no-no in the 8th when Brandon Inge singles.

    • MannyGeee

      “Julio Teheran”
      “No Hit bid”
      “Brandon Inge”
      “Hit”

      What are: 4 words you never expected to be in the same sentence….

      • The Doctor

        I don’t know but I can tell you 8 words. Hahaha.

        • MannyGeee

          Well Played, Mauer

  • teddy

    just cut vernon wells, hacking at 3 and 1 cutter

  • lightSABR

    Anybody else not particularly impressed with the strike calling today?

    • The Doctor

      Not really, it’s a big zone but it’s been generally even. A few missed calls here and there but it hasn’t really messed up the game so I won’t worry about it.

  • MannyGeee

    YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK

  • The Doctor

    Usually players who throw a fit about striking out are good at baseball. This is unusual.

  • teddy

    are drob and mo even avaiable today

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Wells bad read again–put Overbay in left

  • The Doctor

    Wells really cannot play defense. When he sees the ball he can make a good play but he never gets a good jump. Why is he even in at this point in the game?

    • The Real Greg

      Because the Yankees have no other outfielders.

      • The Doctor

        Ichiro stopped existing when?

        • Pat D

          He just went in for Overbay.

          • The Doctor

            Sorry I didn’t even notice. I’m paying half attention right now.

            • The Doctor

              Sorry for the double reply but I’m really questioning why Wells is out there at all. Ichiro hasn’t been great but there’s a righty on the mound and Wells has looked hopeless lately. At very least stick the better defender in the bigger outfield spot.

              • Pat D

                I’m not sure why they don’t want Wells in right.

      • Pat D

        But what about Grander…oh, yea, right.

        Well, there’s Boesch…hmm.

        Oh, look Yan Fucking Gomes. Let’s not fucking blow this.

        • JLC 776

          I had actually forgotten that Granderson even came back for like a whole, shitty, week.

  • JLC 776

    God Dammit.

  • The Real Greg

    Now that is all CC’s fault

  • Kramerica Industries

    Jeez. Here we were sitting pretty after that double play.

    C’mon C.C.

  • teddy

    unbelieveable

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    …And CC’s game went from incredible to disappointing like that.

    Come the fuck on, Big Man. I was so ready to believe in you today.

    • The Doctor

      Only 2 of their runs were truly earned. Nothing to do about a solid like drive single and a blast, but all that infield single bullshit in the other inning just can’t really be blamed on the pitcher.

      • JLC 776

        Exactly – this is why you have to watch the games and not the box scores. Four of the softest hits lead to two ridiculous runs. This is a solid A- game at the moment.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        He can’t be completely absolved from it either, as much as we want to.

        Overall, CC pitched okay. He started off dominant, tired, and gave up 4 runs. I’m not that happy with the start.

  • The Doctor

    Well now the line really isn’t going to reflect how good CC’s been…

  • Guns

    Just when you thought CC might be good again… Nope.

    • Darren

      CC is good….

      …as a number three starter.

      or

      ….for me to poop on.

      or

      …compared to Chase Wright

  • teddy

    4 runs last 2 innings, can’t trust cc anymore, guess that start against redsox was a fluke

    • The Doctor

      And 2 of the runs were the result of some lazy defense and other shenanigans. He looked fantastic for 5 innings, that doesn’t just go out the window.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        He also gave up 4 runs.

        This was not that good of a start. Okay, I guess. And it’s a damn shame.

        • Jim Is Bored

          No but “can’t trust cc anymore, guess that start against redsox was a fluke” is just flat out hysterical.

          • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

            No argument there.

        • The Doctor

          You say this as if all runs are the same. If you’re going to tell me that CC will go out every night, pitch as well as he has, and give up 4 runs, you are just way off the mark.

          • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

            I’m not saying all runs are the same (if I did I’d just say this was a bad start), but he gave up hits and they lead to runs. Sure, a lot were cheap hits, but not all of them, and he gave up a real, run scoring hit with men on. I’m not ready, and wasn’t before either, to give him a full pass on that inning.

            • The Doctor

              So because he gave up one hit that, with anything but bad luck, would’ve been with the bases empty, and then gave up 2 legitimate runs the next inning, we can’t trust him? He threw 4.2 perfect innings before a bad read by Wells broke up a perfect game, then ran into some bad luck before finally actually cracking. That doesn’t sound like a start I look at and consider bad.

              This is why stats like FIP exist: to sort out the crap like the 6th inning and look at a pitcher’s underlying performance. CC’s FIP today is 6/7 of a run below league average. So say the average FIP was 4, CC’s would be 3.14. He pitched well. The results don’t necessarily show it. If you can’t see past what is right in front of you, I can’t really help. This while statistical breakdown is probably a bit much but I had to illustrate my point somehow.

              • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

                Hold your horses there. I never said we can’t trust him – at least, not just because of this game. I’m not going hysterical. But yeah, I’m disappointed. I saw the inning. Yes, he gave up a lot of bloop hits. But you want to talk about FIP? That’s balls not put in play. He put balls in play, then he gave up a hit to allow runs. That happened. Let’s stop pretending it didn’t.

                I don’t think he pitched badly. He pitched okay. He was dominant for large stretches and gave up runs in others.

      • teddy

        it does when you give 2 runs with 2 outs in the 7th when mo and drob are not likely avaiable

    • Bryan

    • Jim Is Bored

      You’re a sad, strange little man.

      • Pat D

        And you have my pity.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          I hope Jim was thinking of the same quote.

          • Jim Is Bored

            It would actually be funnier if I wasn’t.

  • King George

    I wanted more than anything for CC to do well this second start and really build off the Sox game. Nope. Sucks to see these last two innings…

    • Jim Is Bored

      Did you watch the last inning?

    • The Doctor

      If they send him out there and he retires 6 in a row for a 4 run complete game I’d still be willing to see this as a positive game. Like I’ve said over and over 2 of the runs were really just BS. The last 2 are all his fault obviously, but if he’d just given up 2 runs I think we’d be viewing this start differently.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    It’s so unlike CC to tire like this as the game goes on

    Really, I was so ready to believe that his problems were ending…this was so disappointing.

  • Pat D

    I’m not jumping the shark on CC. Giving up the homer sucked, but the first two runs were two of the softest runs allowed ever. It was bad luck, not bad pitching.

    • Jim Is Bored

      He’s basically had one terrible pitch all game.

      • The Doctor

        Not to mention his pitch count is still at 89. He could wrap this game up himself and a 4 run CG is nothing to sneeze at. Not an amazing outing by any means, but it saves the bullpen, wins the game, and he looked good doing it. If he pitches like he did today going forward, I see good things. Lets not forget this is one of baseball’s better offenses.

    • Rolling Doughnut

      Giving up 4 runs is not the whole story. CC really made only one mistake the whole game.

  • The Real Greg

    Yes, CC’s line should be 7 innings and 2 ER. The two the previous inning were fluke runs cause by soft hits.

    • The Real Greg

      By previous, I mean the sixth.

  • Pat D

    I wonder if any other players have as many PA’s as Stewart with multiple home runs but no other XBH’s.

  • PFOJ

    I’m certainly not against the restriction on using Rivera three days in a row, but Girardi should be trying to avoid him in three run games. No confidence in the bullpen’s ability to get the final six outs since he was used needlessly on Monday.

    • The Doctor

      They discussed this on MLB Now yesterday. Brian Kenny was arguing that the Reds should’ve used Chapman in extra innings against the Pirates to save the game rather than saving him then using him in a 3 run save situation the next day. I have to agree, the whole only use your closer if it’s a save thing a getting caught up in a stat that doesn’t really mean that much. Use them in the way that lets you win the most games, not the one that pads their stats. It’s not like any of them are going to touch the all-time record anyway haha.

      • JLC 776

        Way too arbitrary… use the right pitcher for the right task. Hell, I’d rather see the closer on the mound in the 8th during a close game if that’s when the heart of the other team’s lineup is coming up!

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          The worst is when managers, in road games, won’t put in their closers in extra innings unless it’s a save situation. That thinking is just beyond stupid.

          Think about it for a moment. When you have a lead, you have a cushion. You can give up a run (or even more, by the way, which we shouldn’t forget)and still have a shot to win the game.

          When the game is tied, you don’t have that luxury.

          And yet, managers will INSIST that they should keep their best pitcher available on the bench during innings where they LOSE if they give up one run, and only putting them on when they actually have a cushion.

          It’s just asinine.

          • PFOJ

            I got into a hilariously heated debate with someone about this last year and I ended up making a spreadsheet to prove my point. I plugged in all sorts of run expectancy numbers for the home and road team and I found that as the manager of the road team, as long as you have a non zero chance of scoring in your next half inning, you should bring in your best pitcher in the bottom of the 9th and not save him. It’s for the exact reason you said, any runs you score create a cushion that doesn’t exist in a tie game, and if your inferior pitcher has to pitch, that’s when you want him in.

  • SDB

    CC’s looked pretty good overall today, and his pitch count is still fairly low (89 so far). Hope Girardi keeps him at least another inning (if not two), which’ll also keep the bullpen really fresh for the road trip.

  • The Real Greg

    Chris Stewart has the same OBP as Robinson Cano. Think about that.

  • teddy

    another bad idea by giradri

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    I normally defend usage of the bunt. I don’t like it there.

  • JLC 776

    Some gritty, manufacturing a run style baseball coming up here. We’ll likely work Stewart all the way to 3rd and just hit a HR instead.

  • Jim Is Bored

    Gardner’s been one of our better hitters since the first few weeks…do not get the bunt.

    Although it could have been his own idea, I guess.

  • The Real Greg

    Money just falling away.

  • teddy

    now teix gets bb, then hafner hits against lefty.

    giradri in game management for lineups is astrcious

    • The Real Greg

      Whom is walked by the lefty.

      • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

        Every time I see the word “whom,” I like to pronounce it with the short “o” (instead of long) and a silent “h.”

  • King George

    Robbie is really starting to concern. This isn’t just a slump. This is a very prolonged slump.

    • Jim Is Bored

      Nope. It’s still just a slump.

      • King George

        Not really.

        • Jim Is Bored

          http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7497/gamelog

          Use records instead of your faulty memory.

          I know I have to.

        • JLC 776

          Everyone was jumping off of cliffs during Robbie’s slump to start the season. Then he hit at some ridiculous pace for a whole month.

          It’s just a slump.

          (or he’s about to be called out in relation to the Miami PED thing)

      • Jim Is Bored

        May 26th to May 30th:
        8/17 with a HR.

        It’s a 5-6 game slump.

    • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

      Meh. It’s a normal slump. Day off and then he tears up the Left Coast. It’ll help to miss Iwakuma too.

  • Kramerica Industries

    I miss the Robbie Cano that was hitting the ball well.

    I mean, jeez, he’s been on an extended slump.

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      This is pretty typical for Robbie. I feel as if we have this same conversation every year. Robbie goes into these long, epic slumps, then he breaks out and is the best player in the world for a full month or so.

      • JLC 776

        Exactly.

        I think the whole thing is magnified this year as the team slumps when he slumps.

    • Jim Is Bored

      A week.

  • TomH

    Not only is Leiter long-winded but–as in his response to Kay re “Cano is the guy”–he starts losing the thread of his remarks. He’s also something of a bore in his I-am-a-baseball-analyst mode, the kind of guy you avoid at a bar.

    • Jim Is Bored

      He’s usually the guy I make sure gets 3-4 free shots…

      • TomH

        Yeah, but then you say you’re bored already.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Don’t like the bunt there, just to reiterate.

    • The Real Greg

      Oh well.

  • The Real Greg

    I think he will use Rivera. He knows the importance of this game.

  • Jim Is Bored

    Blargh Vernon.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Well, you know, thanks for April, Vernon, but holy crap was that a mirage.

  • SDB

    Come on CC. Shut up the doubters.

  • JLC 776

    DAMMIT CC! It took you FOUR pitches to strike him out?!? Freaking losing it…

    • Guns

      What he’s losing is the velocity on his fastball and the ability to keep the ball in the ballpark.

  • TCMiller30

    Brett Garnder has a higher slugging percentage than Pujols and Hamilton. I did NOT see that being the case to start June.

  • SDB

    I blame that walk on Sterling. Ma and Pa go on about how CC hasn’t walked a batter, and has only walked so few batters in his last however-many innings, and of course, Swisher walks TWO MINUTES LATER.

    At least this didn’t cost the team.

    • TomH

      They’ve got no market on that! Kay, Cone, and Leiter are every bit as guilty. Joe is splendid, great, pitching very well. Then boom!

  • teddy

    yea cc pitched very well today, just hatred last 2 runs he gave up, but thats a produce of no drob or mo. so cc go for a cg or preston goes for his first career save.

    kay just said bluejays closer

  • JLC 776

    Wait, Ichiro is batting .266? When did that happen?

    • The Real Greg

      He’s been hot the last week or so.

  • teddy

    youk go yard please

  • teddy

    good job youk, got to get this run

  • The Real Greg

    You could pinch hit Brigniac.

    • The Doctor

      I think the idea of Brignac being the best pinch hitter is just a little too embarrassing.

      Would sure be nice to have a lefty power hitter off the bench. You know, maybe a guy who can play some outfield. Someone whose name starts with a B. Ends in a rennan Boesch.

  • Guns

    Warren? What happened to Claiborne?

    • The Doctor

      Didn’t you listen to Lieter’s long winded explanation that didnt make any sense? That’s what it is.

  • The Real Greg

    FAILURE NIX

    • trr

      Can somebody nix Nix?

      • The Doctor

        I’m usually all in favor of a god old fashioned Nix beating, but he did pretty much get the day going with a double that put him and Overbay in scoring position before the breakout inning, so I’ll give him a pass. Then again he did botch a throw that should’ve gotten CC out of the first inning he gave ruins up in… So no let’s hit him.

    • WhittakerWalt

      He seems particularly useless at getting a man in from 3rd with less than 2 outs. Because he can be blown away by a generic 91mph fastball.

  • teddy

    yanks have score in just 3 of the last 17 innings. it’s pathetic

    • The Doctor

      They’ve also scored 17 runs in 3 days. I wouldn’t complain considering what came before those 3 days.

      • JLC 776

        And the Sawx scored 17 runs in 7 innings in 1 game!

        But, yeah, after the Met series, I’ll take them any way they come.

        • The Doctor

          I knew the Sox comment was coming. I think it’s safe to say they have a better offense so I’m not going to get into the habit of comparing to them.

  • teddy

    could have pinch hit adams, better chance at a fly ball

    • The Real Greg

      But Adams has been in a Cano like slump.

      • teddy

        yes but you don’t need a hit either

        • The Real Greg

          True, but watching Adams recently, he has become more of a free swinger, and that will never do.

          • teddy

            all true, he still a better hitter than nix

  • The Doctor

    Nice pick by Youk. Things could’ve gone downhill fast if he botched that.

  • teddy

    so why is mo warning up

  • The Real Greg

    The crowd went AWWWWWWH because they thought he had caught a ball and then cheered when he called a strike.

  • Wheels

    Thanks ump.

    • The Real Greg

      HE’s been consistent today

      • Wheels

        c’mon man

        • The Real Greg

          What? He has been.

  • JLC 776

    There it is! Deceptively great game by CC that will be ignored due to the box score.

    Now if only we can play the Indians and the Blue Jays every day…

    • trr

      Right?

  • SDB

    OH NOES. CC gave up 7 hits in his complete game. I am SO disappointed. Huge crash back down to earth after that Sox game. #totallynotace

    brb, crying my eyes out in the bathroom.

  • teddy

    good job cc, when you consider 2 of the runs and 4 hits were cheap

  • The Real Greg

    A great game for CC.

    Despite the box score.

    • The Doctor

      When you throw a 4 run complete game and that’s not even indicative of how well you pitched, you had a great day. All the cliff jumpers need to calm the hell down.

  • The Doctor

    Can’t trust CC anymore
    Not an ace
    Disappointing
    Etc.

    Good work Big Man

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    You gotta give the big man credit. He went the full 9 and had one truly bad inning. Giving the hat tip.

    Waiting for comments calling me hypocritical.

    • trr

      why? you gave credit where credit was due

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        I was very critical earlier in the thread. I retract none of what I said, but he did go the full 9 and for most innings he was impressive. After going a full 9, yeah, I revised my opinion. If people like it, bite me.

        • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

          I mean, if people DON’T like it of course. Kind of a big difference.

          • trr

            haha!
            unless u like getting bit

        • WhittakerWalt

          Unlike some people who post here, I have no problem when we’re harshly critical. CC deserved the criticism that he got, and he deserves the props that we’re all giving him for pitching a CG. It’s OK for both things to be true.

    • The Real Greg

      Forget inning.

      He had one truly bad pitch all day.

    • The Doctor

      Nah everyone reacts strongly in the moment and now that it’s wrapped up you realize it. Better than what a lot of people on here do.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

        Well, see what I wrote to trr.

  • Rolling Doughnut

    Everybody cool w/ CC now? Good. They salvage a 4-4 homestand. Three in a row. One more and it’s a streak.

    • trr

      a lot of us WERE cool…

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    PRUSSIA RULES!!!!!

  • Wheels

    Let’s take it to Seattle.

  • Jim Is Bored

    What a shitty game for CC. Can’t trust him anymore.

    • Pat D

      Fucking bum that he is.

  • trr

    Well, this was the first time I jumped in on the Prussia meme.
    The result? A win. What can the connection be ‘tween this Irishman and Prussia?

    Coincidence? I’m sure, but maybe I’ll continue….just in case…

    Good Win Today! Thanks CC!