Game 62: Bats



The Yankees’ offense has disappeared since hanging six runs on Aaron Harang some 15 innings ago, scoring just one run off the combination of Blake Beavan, Jeremy Bonderman, and various relievers. That’s kind of annoying. Knock it off. Here’s the lineup that will face southpaw Joe Saunders…

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Jayson Nix
  3. DH Mark Teixeira
  4. 2B Robinson Cano
  5. LF Vernon Wells
  6. 1B Kevin Youkilis
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. 3B David Adams
  9. C Chris Stewart

And on the mound is the 594th overall pick in the 1990 draft, left-hander Andy Pettitte. This afternoon’s game is scheduled to begin a little after 4pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. WhittakerWalt says:

    Out of morbid curiosity, I looked up Robbie’s BA against lefties this season. He’s batting .198, and I believe he’s got 1 hit in his last 23 ABs against portsiders. He’s got a .599 OPS against lefties. This is a trend that has to reverse itself soon, or he’s essentially a platoon player. Fingers crossed for him to rediscover, well, everything.
    Or, as John Sterling would say, “Cano hits GREAT against lefties.”

  2. WhittakerWalt says:

    “the 594th overall pick in the 1990 draft, left-hander Andy Pettitte.”

    That right there is why I will never pay attention to the draft.

    • Laz says:

      But he was probably the only one in his round to make it as an all star, meanwhile same year 8 of the first 24 picks made it to the all star game.

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        Posada was the 629th pick!

        • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

          That doesn’t invalidate anything Laz said. You’ll find success stories in the lower draft rounds but more success stories in the higher draft rounds.

          • WhittakerWalt says:

            I wasn’t trying to invalidate anything. It was just an amusing observation.

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

              I figured, going by your original comment, that you were trying to make a point.

              If not? Well, cool.

    • vicki says:

      the mlb draft maneuvering is pretty fascinating, actually.

      i do think it’s hilarious when fans use andy as an example when demanding that yankee scouts do a better job of finding gems in late rounds.

  3. Laz says:

    Wells is actually doing ok vs lhp, and Ichiro is doing even better.

  4. Pudge says:

    Can’t wait for the day the yanks make Wells a platoon player and not an everyday player

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Via Lohud today:
      “I still consider Vernon an everyday player,” Girardi said. “Might I spell him with a day off with Overbay? Yeah. But I still consider Vernon an everyday player.”

      Meanwhile, Wells 2011-2013 vs. RHP: 684 PA, 204/237/379, 66 wRC+

      That screams platoon player to me, but this is the same team that though Ben Francisco would make a good DH vs. LHP, so I’m not holding my breath for a change anytime soon.

    • Winter says:

      Who would you platoon him with though?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

        Could give Overbay a shot now. If they don’t think he could handle OF well enough, maybe Musty makes more sense.

      • Bo Knows says:

        Aaron Judge right now probably wouldn’t be as bad as Vernon is right now lol

  5. WhittakerWalt says:

    Praying for a strong Andy start. Let’s get win #250!

  6. WhittakerWalt says:

    Joe Saunders might be fatter than Joba!

  7. trr says:

    Las night certainly didn’t go according to plan. let’s bounce back and win this one!

  8. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    There ya go, Robbie.

  9. Wheels says:

    Way to go Robbie

  10. Eddard says:

    Nice piece of hitting by both Teix and Robbie.

  11. WhittakerWalt says:

    The best part about no Michael Kay in the booth? I don’t have to hear “Andrew Eugene Pettitte.”

  12. Wheels says:

    Ok, Wells is awful.

  13. The Real Greg says:

    I could care less about Vernon Wells and more about the fact that Cano stole a bag?

  14. WhittakerWalt says:

    WTF are you swinging at, Wellsie?
    Talk about a guy whose slump is not baffling me at all.

    • Bo Knows says:

      Not a slump if you’ve sucked for the last 3 years with the sole exception of a month long splurge at the beginning of the season.

      • The Real Greg says:

        Actually he had a very god 2010 and then started to drop so it was a bad two years. But your point still stands.

  15. forensic says:

    Good to see Girardi is clueless as ever…

    Speaking of struggling outfielders, Vernon Wells has been pretty bad lately, but Girardi said he has no plans of making Wells a platoon player at this point. “I still consider Vernon an everyday player,” Girardi said. “Might I spell him with a day off with Overbay? Yeah. But I still consider Vernon an everyday player.”

    • Girardi on Wells’ struggles: “I think his timing’s a little off. It seems when he does hit a ball hard, they catch it. He’s struggling right now. We believe he’s going to come out of it. There’s no doubt he’s going to come out of it, but I just think he’s out in front of balls a little bit and it’s causing some issues.”


    • The Real Greg says:

      If you believe him. The truth is that he has very few other options to go to and he has to give the public appearance of not backing out on a player.

    • Winter says:

      Who would they platoon him with? The only option is Overbay, and I don’t think anyone wants to see him playing OF in Safeco.

      • forensic says:

        Both Mustelier and Neal would be better options at this point.

        And frankly, it’s not like Wells’ defense is anything special that you would lose with Overbay out there. I’m not a fan of the experiment, but at this point, it might be worth the risk.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      If I was Joe I’d just start answering “no comment” to these questions. Anything else is a flat-out lie.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Wells is not struggling. He’s just being himself

      This year .236/.281/.407/.689
      Last year .230/.279/.403/.682

    • Wheels says:

      How much longer before Granderson comes back?

  16. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    This is awesome.

    For any CB Bucknor “fans”.

  17. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    What comes first: a David Adams walk or a David Adams demotion?
    (same applies to Austin Romine)

    • The Real Greg says:

      I remember when people were screaming out for Romine to get starts in place of Stewart. Where are those people now?

  18. Eddard says:

    What do you expect Girardi to say about Wells? Any respectable manager will backup his subordinates. If you want a manager who calls out his players hire Bobby V or Ozzie and see how well that works out.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Yeah, I don’t think we want that.

    • forensic says:

      If you’re a manager, you back up your subordinates, but you don’t flat-out lie with what you’re saying. You also don’t hurt the team you’re the supervisor of, or the organization you’re representing, by ignoring things that are hurting your team and the rest of your subordinates. The subordinates need to earn the faith from their supervisor too, it’s not just blind faith.

      • The Real Greg says:

        The problem is that there is no evidence of his ignorance. I don’t think he controls who gets called up and who gets sent down.

        • forensic says:

          He doesn’t control it by himself, but he does have input into it. He also does have control over his lineup and can sit Wells as he feels.

      • Eddard says:

        Calling out a player publicly would hurt the team much more than backing him up. Privately maybe it’s a different story. If Girardi had a better option than Wells he probably platoons Vernon with Ichiro. He doesn’t have that luxury right now on the WC in these big ballparks where Overbay’s defense would be more of a liability.

        • forensic says:

          Ichiro is a far better hitter than Wells at this point and should not be platooned with him (especially since he’s got a reverse split going on). Beyond that, he doesn’t need to call him out, he can sugarcoat him sitting for a few games, or longer, and play it off as him stuggling and just giving him some time to work on his swing (and maybe even send him for an eye exam…) and get some rest since he’s had to play almost everyday this season…

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        Joe has this weird thing where he shows undeserved faith in guys. A good three weeks will earn you almost limitless patience from him.

        • The Real Greg says:

          Kind of. This year though is more about necessity than faith.

          • WhittakerWalt says:

            Absolutely, but even with this depleted roster there are better moves than the ones he makes.

        • forensic says:

          Sadly, he only had one good week at the start of the season. Since then he’s been worse than he’s even been the last two years.

          • The Real Greg says:

            It must have been a heck of a week because his stats should be worse if it was an average week.

            • forensic says:

              It was.

              First 6 games: .381/.500/.762
              Last 52 games: .221/.254/.369

              Two years in LA: .222/.258/.409

              And let’s not even mention that those worse numbers with the Yankees are coming in a better hitter’s park.

              • WhittakerWalt says:

                Those last 52 games paint a picture of a guy who doesn’t belong in the league, quite frankly. It’s not like he’s an elite defender.

                • forensic says:

                  Those last 266 games paint a picture of a guy who doesn’t belong in the league, quite frankly. It’s not like he’s an elite defender.

                  • WhittakerWalt says:

                    He’s not even old! A 34 year old should have something left in the tank.
                    The Lord Humongous is very displeased.

              • vicki says:

                re better hitter’s park: for a right-handed pull-hitter, not so much.

  19. forensic says:

    It’s amazing that, right now, Chris freakin’ Stewart may be the 5th best hitter in today’s lineup…

  20. Wheels says:

    Gardy is playing well.

  21. The Real Greg says:

    Damn when did Joe Saunders start throwing 93 MPH?

  22. The Real Greg says:

    At some point the Yankees have to win a 1-0 game.

  23. WhittakerWalt says:

    Groundball to second base. The Robbie Cano special.

  24. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Youkilis outdid himself there. Terrible ab

  25. vicki says:

    more than two months until we go back to rogers center. 60-day DL vern, activate neal or musty. easy.

  26. The Real Greg says:

    And here come the runs

  27. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    Vern continues to make April look like a huge fluke. Wow.

    In other news, a recent Yankees draftee has a mutual friend with me. Dillon McNamara. Pretty crazy.

  28. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Professional Baseball Player.

  29. teddy says:

    gotta play infield in

  30. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Professional Ballplayer. Oh my.

  31. WhittakerWalt says:


  32. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    Man, that could have been the inning if Nix didn’t eff up.

  33. The Real Greg says:

    What happened?

  34. Andy says:

    Should be an unearned run

    • The Real Greg says:

      Can’t be. Can’t assume the double play. Been in baseball for years.

      • Andy says:

        Hence why I said should be

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        That’s one of those rules that should probably be amended, at least for such easy calls. I’d also like to allow some runs to score on ground rule doubles, like if there’s two outs and the runners were on the move anyway.
        Granted, it’s very subjective, but there must be a way.

  35. WhittakerWalt says:

    Charge that run to Jayson Nix.

  36. WhittakerWalt says:

    Sorry, guys. We’ve already scored our run for the day.

  37. Wheels says:

    So, hopefully Jeter’s MRI this week shows that everything is progressing nicely.

  38. WhittakerWalt says:

    If Ichiro doesn’t make something happen here somebody should be fired.

    /not really

  39. Mick taylor says:

    What say mr forensic and mr Whitaker tojason bay getting another big hit. Another great game by nix. First He leaves the runner stranded at 2nd by swinging at a pitch which bounced 2 feet in front of home plate. Then he makes an error a little leaguer would make. Put overbay at short

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Does someone want to translate this from Genuine Frontier Gibberish?

    • forensic says:

      Wow, lead-off single. I’m impressed. Wish we had him instead of Wells.

      No seriously, I do…


      Argh, I’m so confused now.

  40. teddy says:

    and adams still hasn’t drawing a walk, sent him down

  41. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    Redeemed himself.

  42. Wheels says:

    Way to redeem yourself Nix

  43. The Real Greg says:

    There’s the professional

  44. WhittakerWalt says:

    You owed us that one, Nixie.

  45. Eddard says:

    Nix gets the run back that he lost.

  46. WhittakerWalt says:

    Why does Mark Feinsand think Pettitte has more wins than Mussina? Am I missing something?

    • vicki says:

      what was the context? could he have meant as a yankee?

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        That’s what I thought, too, but no. Feinsand actually said that Pettitte just passed Mike Mussina for wins, which makes no sense. Moose has more career wins, and Pettitte has many more Yankee wins.

        Mussina won 123 as a Yankee.
        Pettitte has won 203 as a Yankee.

        If there’s an actual explanation for this I don’t know what it is.

  47. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Oh my gosh, I just realized that John and Suzyn must have started listing the reasons for Nix’s canonization after that last hit.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      Yup. They also thought it was a great idea for Brignac to bunt last night, it was just the execution that failed.

      • The Real Greg says:

        Well considering what the offense did after that, it might have been the right idea.

        • Rolling Doughnut says:

          Yes, if you assume they could know the outcome of the game beforehand, that might have been the right call. But logic does not work that way, the bunt was a blunder.

    • Wheels says:

      Ha, the beatification of Jayson Nix.

  48. WhittakerWalt says:

    Sterling Tease. Fuck him.

  49. Winter says:

    Wait, Wells is staying on the field after an at bat. Shouldn’t some one tell him he’s supposed to go back to the dugout? I don’t understand.

  50. Wheels says:

    Weak sauce, Ichiro

  51. forensic says:

    Wells and Youkilis reaching base safely in the same inning???

    It’s the end of the world as we know it…

  52. WhittakerWalt says:

    How did we ever score two runs?

  53. The Real Greg says:

    See Saunders got it up to 92 there again.

  54. teddy says:

    cashman needs to get 2 bats or this team going nowhere

  55. Eddard says:

    Andy might be able to throw a CG at this rate. Not sure how many pitches he can throw. As long as he gets through 7 with the lead it’s secure.

  56. The Real Greg says:

    Meanwhile Pettite has thrown just 64 pitches through 6 innings.

  57. Jacob the OG says:

    Thought I would alert everyone Andy(1,939) is now 17 ks from tying Whitey(1,956) for #1 on Yankees all time strike out list!

  58. The Real Greg says:

    Here comes the Branch Line Station.

    If you know the Rev. W. Awdry, you will get this reference.

  59. teddy says:

    yanks should sent up hafner here

  60. The Real Greg says:

    I would have pinch hit Hafner here, Joe

  61. The Real Greg says:

    However, now that I think about it, Wedge would have just brought in Perez to counter the move.

    • teddy says:

      still rather have hafner up, but nix did the job

    • Tom says:

      Only if they re-wrote the rules of baseball before he did it.

      Once he brought the righty in, he has to face at least one batter (barring an injury).

      • The Real Greg says:

        That rule really doesn’t make sense because you can pinch hit for a pinch hitter so it should work the other way around.

        • Tom says:

          Sense or not… you’d think Girardi might know one of the more basic rules in baseball.

          So it’s not an excuse for Girardi not making the move.

    • forensic says:

      I’m only following on play-by-play right now, but Farquhar would’ve had to face Hafner since he just came in. You sound like those terrible umps in the Houston game earlier this year.

  62. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    And John and Suzyn simultaneously orgasm.

  63. Eddard says:

    That’s now +1 for Jayson Nix.

  64. The Real Greg says:

    And in the end…. it works out.

  65. FEED.ME.MORE! says:

    Baseball Player!!!!

  66. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    OK Nix. I forgive your defensive lapse. For now.

  67. WhittakerWalt says:

    Ma and Pa are going to be insufferable after this one.

  68. Wheels says:

    Close the door on this game Tex

  69. The Real Greg says:

    See that’s why I have said that it very hard to criticize managers. Sometimes they make the wrong move and it works. Sometimes they make what they think is the right move and it doesn’t work.

    • WhittakerWalt says:

      True that. I didn’t think it was wrong to leave Nix in there. The runner’s already on second, and a single will score him. Nix can get a single.
      If it was a big spot and Wells came up, or you need a home run, then I’d PH.

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      Logically, though, one would still criticize the manager for making the wrong move even if worked. Being the wrong move and all.

  70. FEED.ME.MORE! says:

    WTF? Oli Perez?

  71. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Robbie looked a little like Swisher there.

  72. Cy Pettitte says:

    Looks like the Orioles are coming strong for our title of best at over-hyping pitching prospects and getting little to nothing out of them in the majors

    • Rolling Doughnut says:

      You got that right. People keep talking up the O’s FO etc. Nice to see they’re getting clobbered today,

  73. The Real Greg says:

    By the way Rangers and Blue Jays are in the top of the 17th inning.

  74. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Way to go Andy.

  75. Darren says:

    WTF? 83 pitches and he’s done.

    • The Real Greg says:

      Hey, I saw Buck Showalter take out Freddy Garcia to start the seventh with 66 pitches.

    • Tom says:


      Had he been at 83 pitches and it was the 6th inning there is close to zero chance he’s pulled.

      Either than or Ryan’s .550 OPS means you have to play the platoon advantage.

  76. The Real Greg says:

    Now in his last start, if I recall, Andy started to tire around the 70th pitch. So that has to play into this decision a bit.

    • Matt says:

      Which is meaningless because it was a completely different opponent with a different amount of pitching under pressure.

      Pettitte barely had to sweat today. He worked with nobody on for most of the game. He didn’t look like he was tiring one bit, and in fact it looked like he was quite sharp still but getting squeezed a bit.

      Unless the goal is to get Robertson and Rivera some work (haven’t pitched since Wednesday), the move was another pointless overmanage by Girardi.

      • The Real Greg says:

        That was the other reason that I was considering. Actually they haven’t pitched since Tuesday. CC threw the CG on Wednesday.

        • Matt says:

          Sorry, Tuesday. But this game is still too close to mess around like that. If your starter is cruising and is not tiring, then by bringing in relief pitchers you can only make things worse.

          Pettitte was the better choice than a rusty Robertson right now. It’s not like it’s one of your lesser pitchers like Hughes who might blow up at any moment.

          • The Real Greg says:

            I was kind of surprised that he did it too. But once again, the decision goes the Yankees way, for the moment.

          • Darren says:

            Exactly. A starter that is not tiring or showing any signs of strain with a low pitch count is a better bet than a rusty reliever. And why not get Andy the complete game if possible?

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        It was probably one of those “if anybody gets on I’m coming to get you” things, except he stayed in to retire the lefty.

  77. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Da fuck, DRob?

  78. WhittakerWalt says:

    Please go after Brendan Ryan.

  79. Winter says:

    So Girardi took Andy out after only 82 pitches. It’s the 8th inning, I have absolutely zero problem with Girardi opting to go with Robertson and Mo in a two run game.

  80. The Real Greg says:

    And again, the decision on the edge works in the Yankees favor.

    • Matt says:

      Doesn’t make it the right one. Getting lucky is not the same as being smart. In a small sample like in the playoffs you can throw that out the window, but in the regular season you can’t have that sort of mindset because over a lot of games it will burn you (it already has many times).

      • The Real Greg says:

        But as I said earlier, nobody seems to care about that. They care more about the result than the decision, if the result goes their way.

        Logically they should, but it really doesn’t work that way.

        • Matt says:

          That doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change a thing. If they don’t know any better, then they are not fit for the job. Your job is to give your team the best chance to win. If you can’t do that, then it doesn’t matter what excuses you make.

        • Rolling Doughnut says:

          You are in rare form today.

          • The Real Greg says:

            It doesn’t.

            How many post game write ups on sports sites have you seen that have said “Technically this was a bad decision but luckily it worked”

        • Tom says:

          When people are asking BEFORE the result is known, they are not using the outcome to determine the “rightness” of the decision.

          • The Real Greg says:

            I meant in reaction. You can question anything prior to an event happening.

            • Tom says:

              Ahh…. got you.

              I think Mike A and other knowledgable writers will criticize a move even if it works out. Most of the mainstream sites have idiots pumping out recaps so it’s hard to expect them to analyze anything but the result.

              • The Real Greg says:

                True. But even then, they mention it in passing with a “I didn’t think this was the right move, but whatever” type of phrase (I’m just paraphrasing) They don’t belabor the point.

  81. Rolling Doughnut says:

    Drob for two outs and give it to Mo seems about right. Andy’s pitch count notwithstanding.

  82. The Real Greg says:

    Now you could pinch hit Hafner here too.

  83. WhittakerWalt says:

    Tex with his signature pop-up.

  84. Jacob the OG says:

    Josh pettitte just drafted by yanks

  85. WhittakerWalt says:

    I always get nervous when Ma and Pa start building up Mariano too much before an appearance.

  86. I'mVernonI'mVernon4U says:

    That is a great walk up song for Raul. Perfect, really.

  87. The Real Greg says:

    That was an unintentional intentional walk. Rather go after Franklin

  88. Eddard says:

    Andy’s got his 250th win and he’s headed straight to Cooperstown alongside Mo.

  89. Tom says:

    Man for any other pitcher that 2-2 pitch up to Morse would have been extremely dangerous (miss a bit down and he hits it 450ft); but for Rivera… no worries.

    Like the unintentional/intentional walk to Ibanez (even if it puts the tying run on base). They could have given Franklin 6 strikes and I don’t think it would have mattered.

    Was watching the M’s TV feed and even they said “good luck kid” when Franklin came up and were laughing on the pitch that Rivera put on Franklin’s hands.

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