Jun
13

Yanks outclassed by A’s again; lose 5-2

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Source: FanGraphs

I’m not quite sure what can be said about the Yankees offense that hasn’t already been repeated ad nauseum. It’s terrible and the it doesn’t give the team much of a chance to win. New York was again completely overmatched in their 5-2 loss to Athletics on Wednesday. Let’s recap:

  • Hughesless: For the fifth time in 13 starts, Phil Hughes was unable to complete five innings of work. He walked a season-high five — previous high was two — in 4.1 innings as the Athletics fouled off pitch after pitch and worked deep count after deep count. Brandon Moss hit the #obligatoryhomer (two-run shot) and John Jaso chipped in an RBI double to account for the three runs. Hughes has morphed into A.J. Burnett this year, with a Good Phil and a Bad Phil. Good luck guessing which one shows up for a given start.
  • Offense: Thanks to their token two runs on Wednesday night, the Yankees have now scored a dozen runs in their last 51 offensive innings. That dates back to the six-run inning against Aaron Harang in the series opener against the Mariners. If the Yankees offense was a pitcher, it would have a 2.12 ERA during that time. Mark Teixeira (sac fly) and Jayson Nix (ground ball single) accounted for the two runs, but otherwise they put just one other runner in scoring position. That man was stranded after pinch-hitter for the pinch-hitter Chris Stewart struck out to end the seventh. At one point A’s starter Dan Straily retired 15 of 16 batters faced. Not even competitive.
  • Leftovers: Joba Chamberlain allowed two runs (Moss solo homer, Jaso single) in the eighth to effectively put the game to bed … Boone Logan walked his first left-handed batter of the year while Preston Claiborne walked his first batter overall. Had he survived the outing, he would have set a record for the most walk-less appearances to start a career in baseball history … the pitching staff allowed nine walks overall, which is crazy considering they came into the game with the lowest walk rate in the league … Brett Gardner‘s hitting streak ended at eight games with an 0-for-3 (plus a walk) … the entire offense for the game was four singles, two walks, and one hit batsman … for the first time since 2006, the Yankees have gone five straight games without hitting a homer. Embarrassing.

For the box score and video highlights, go to MLB.com. For the non-traditional stats, go to FanGraphs. For the updated standings, go to ESPN. The Orioles lost and the Red Sox beat the Rays, so the Yankees are two back of Boston, one up on Baltimore, and two up on Tampa in the loss column. Hiroki Kuroda gets the ball against Jarrod Parker in the series finale on Thursday afternoon.

Categories : Game Stories

111 Comments»

  1. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Fastest game recap post ever?

  2. John says:

    Game so bad, the recap goes up before the WPA graph is even done. Can’t say I blame you.

  3. Matt DiBari says:

    Only a few more months of Hughesberlain.

    If we’re lucky maybe they’ll both be gone before that.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Damn.

      There’s a post that I don’t think any of us would’ve agreed with back in 2007.

      How things change.

      • Deep Thoughts says:

        Well if there’s a silver lining, thank goodness the Ian Kennedy shitshow didn’t go down while he was a Yankee.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I’m still not sure I agree with it.

        It’s the wrong morning to ask my feelings on Phil Hughes, but I’m not concerned as to one outing by Joba. It’s not like he’s going to command a ton on the open market. He’s a middle reliever.

      • I'm not the droids you're looking for... says:

        If only we’d traded them for Santana.

    • trr says:

      True as that may be, our issues run much deeper than that

      • pat says:

        Starting 3B, SS and LF on the DL for one thing…

      • Matt DiBari says:

        Yeah, probably. I’m just tired. I’m tired of never seeing any improvement from them. I’m tired of the excuses and the apologists and the moral victories and the people that insist seven seasons in that we still just have to be patient and maybe one day one of them will eventually finally take a step forward. We have a right handed middle reliever, which has to be one of the most easily replaceable parts in baseball, and a back of the rotation starter who has been stuck at this exact level for-ever (I actually documented it. Its been forever.) I don’t get the infatuation people have for them. I mean, I suspect its because people don’t want to admit to two more failures of the organization to develop big time pitching prospects, but I’m not sure.

  4. Mark says:

    If Gardner plays the outfield by himself, can he take the at bats of Wells and Ichiro? Good thing got those two are locked up through next season.

  5. John says:

    I like Cashman, but Wells and Ichiro being awful was incredibly predictable.

    At least they’ll sell all those nifty Ichiro3000 shirts!

    If he gets there.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

      Better sign him to a 3-year extension if they want to see that.

    • Jon G says:

      One of Wells and Ichiro needs to go… I’d love to see a player with some upside and hunger to prove it get a shot.

  6. forensic says:

    Yuck…

    That’s all I got, not much else that can be said at this point.

  7. Chris says:

    I think everyone is almost 100% sure Cashman didn’t want Ichiro back. If he made that call, he should be fired.

  8. OldYanksFan says:

    4 Hits? This offense is terrible.
    These guys simply need to get hit by more pitches.

  9. Kramerica Industries says:

    Lets be perfectly honest here. With the injuries and the moves made in the off-season, it isn’t out of the realm of possibility at all that the Yankees are the least talented 25-man roster in the AL East right now.

    This isn’t a horrendous indictment. Boston, Tampa, and Baltimore are fine squads and we all would likely admit Toronto has underachieved this season.

    The problem now is that the motto all along has been “tread water”. Well, we’re 65 games through the season now. Not far away from the halfway mark, and some of these guys are still a long ways from returning. Granderson, ARod, and Jeter are all a month away, at least, and, jeez, when the hell is Eduardo Nunez going to return to earth?

    This offense just doesn’t give the Yankees enough of a chance to win right now. A 3-0 deficit should not feel like an out of reach deficit. With this team, at present, I think we all feel 3-0 is insurmountable. We just keep watching because we’re hopeless fanatics who have already set aside the time (and, perhaps, money) and we might as well see it through.

    I’m glad this team is, what, 38-29 right now? But improvements are a ways off, and Boston is now starting to put some serious distance in the division. This is not a good development.

    • Matt DiBari says:

      You know its gotten bad when we’re screaming for Eduardo Nunez

      • Kramerica Industries says:

        But, seriously, where is this guy? I like to think I stay in the loop pretty well, but I realized during the game that I can’t even remember hearing that name for over a month now.

        • forensic says:

          He had his second setback maybe a week or so ago and they shut him down again.

        • WhittakerWalt says:

          Nunez was utter shite even when he was in the lineup, so don’t expect anything at all from him. Even Eddard’s given up on him by this point.

    • forensic says:

      I had to look up those 2 wins when allowing 5 runs or more, had to know which they were. Both were 11-6 wins, one against Cleveland and Ubaldo Jimenez and one against KC and Wade Davis.

      • Kramerica Industries says:

        Yeah, once I gave it some thought, I could remember those games, too, but the fact that only two of those games have occurred as of June 12 is pretty jarring.

        I was thinking of games the Yankees won where they allowed 4+ runs earlier, and that list ain’t too big, either.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Yet they’ve done exactly what we’ve wanted them to for much longer than we wanted them to do it for.

      There’s still PLENTY of time and room to fall, of course, but we’re also that much closer to what we think are even more reinforcements.

      I’d rather play the guys we’ve had at short than Nunez anyway, FWIW.

  10. Stratman9652 says:

    Good Phil can still throw up 7 or 8 innings of shutout ball. Good A.J. pretty much consisted of a night where you didn’t need the long man, especially in that last year in pinstripes.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Agreed. However, it is more an issue of how often Good Phil shows up.

      I’d rather have good Phil than end-of-Yankee-tenure AJ. I’ll admit to still loving what Good AJ USED to look like and, no, I don’t think Pirate AJ is even close to that.

  11. Stratman9652 says:

    Remember when they hit 3 grand slams of the A’s and it wasn’t really a big surprise? Good times.

  12. EndlessJose says:

    Joba like A-rod is doing everything he can to get he’s butt kicked out of this team.

  13. stuart a says:

    wonder if the shrewd randy levine talnet evaluator extrodinaiire came up with the brilliant give Ichiro 2 years else he will go elsewhere bull.

    where is the cano fandom the last few days, the superstar(laughable) has been carrying the offense lately.

    The problem is no reason to think this offense will get any better…
    why does the astute press corp allow the GIrardi bs with we will get out of it and act like this is a new phenomenon. It is new if you say for this year, but this has been the M O all season.

    as is the are not finishing ahead of the sux, oriole, and rays unless they make a moveof some sort…you cannot be successful with this level of offensive ineptitude…

    youkilis is a slow slap hitter, ichiro is flat out awful, ditto for the bum from the angels, catching is scary when Stewart is the go to guy, SS is a joke and Nix is playing better then could be expected, and on and on….

    worse offense I have seen in forever and I was a fan when they had Jerry Kenhy and crew…

  14. OldYanksFan says:

    The truth is a hot April for Wells, Hafner and Youk, and some timely hits by Loverbay, had raised our hopes/expectations FAR above where they should have been.

    On April 1st, most here would have been happy with a .500 first half.
    However, if we knew then that Grandy (again), Nunez and Brains would be out for an extended time, .500 would have looked unobtainable.

    So we are lucky to be where we are.

    Ya know what bothers me the most?
    That Teix is still trying to pound the shit out of the ball on every swing.
    He refuses to swing for contact.
    Further decline from him will be really ugly.
    And frankly, Grandy is cut from the same cloth.

  15. Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

    Bryan Hoch
    ?@BryanHoch
    Robinson Cano is being moved to Kevin Long’s hitting group in BP. Long wants to work more on Cano’s approach vs. LHP.
    —–
    This is just now occurring to them?

    • forensic says:

      It’s only been about a year and a half. What more do you want them to do???

      • WhittakerWalt says:

        Has Cano hit a double in the past 4 weeks? Just wondering.

        • forensic says:

          heh, he had one last night on that groundball past 3rd in the 9th inning.

          Broke a streak of 24 games and 100 PA’s since his last one on May 14th. Got it done just before the one month mark.

          Also had a streak of 34 games and 143 PA’s with just one double, going back to May 4th.

    • forensic says:

      Seriously though, shouldn’t Long already be working with all the batters? Now he only takes a few into one group during BP?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

        idk, but that surprised the hell out of me.

        • forensic says:

          Yeah, I don’t really get it. I know it’s tough to have a ton of time for everyone, but one group during BP is all he can do???

          • forensic says:

            Well, I guess they’re doing it because Long throws lefty during BP. But still, it takes this long to do it and he hasn’t been trying to change anything prior to this?

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        If you hear it on the Twitter, it must be true, and only true once you hear it on the Twitter.

      • trr says:

        and whose group was Cano in all this time?
        John Stirling’s?

    • Pat D says:

      They had to make sure it wasn’t SSS variance.

  16. Brandon Mauk says:

    For the love of Christ. DFA Joba already. He freaking blows

  17. stuart a says:

    cano hit about 200 against lefties last year. DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE AND GIVE HIM A YOUNGER JETER TYPE CONTRACT. Pujols, Hamilton, Tex., etc.. He is not worth it, let the Dodgers over bid for this very nice player, who is far from a superstar….

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Since 2010, Cano’s triple slash line is almost exactly like Pujols, just give/take one or two points from their SLG and OBP. Cano’s WAR because he plays a more valuable position outclasses Pujols.

      Kindly stop talking about Cano forever. No one is begging Cashman to give him a Jeter contract and in fact there are detractors of such an event. And fix your goddamn period button ffs.

      • stuart a says:

        bull.

        talking 7 years or 10 years for Cano. that is insane.

        cano in his prime and Pujols in his prime, no contest. Pujols dominated and was feared.again Cano is 30 + now, anything more then 5 years is folly.

        WAR my ass, 9th inning in there primes you want to pitch to Cano or Pujols? 9 out of 10 GM’s say pitch to Cano…

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting) says:

          Probably 10 out of 10.
          That’s missing the point though.
          Pujols in his prime was definitely better offensively than Cano.
          Cano adds value by playing good defense at a premium defensive position. That counts for something too. Not enough to make up for the offensive deficiency in their respective primes, but enough to significantly close the gap.
          Anything more than 5 years is definitely going to have bad years at the end (maybe even a 5 year deal will). The question is given that there aren’t any players at that level set to hit the market in the next few years, is the trade off worth it to get/keep that caliber of player. Within reason, a bad contract may be the best of bad options.

    • your mom says:

      Can you imagine this line-up without Cano? No choice but to pony up the dough unfortunately.

      • OldYanksFan says:

        Yeah… but if we DON’T sign Cano, we have 20 MILLION a year extra to play with. Yes, Cano plays a premium position, but forget WAR and look at potential future overall contribution.

        I love the guy, but…. he has a career .307 .351 .503 .854 slash line. That’s real good for a middle infielder, but it’s NOT worth a huge contract. He doesn’t walk and has a tendency to swing OFTEN at pitches out of the zone. Those are NOT good traits once he ages and loses bat speed and BA.

        At 41, Giambi batted .225 last year. That sucks! BUT, he had a .372 OBP, which means he’s not a liability, and still contributes.

        I’m not comparing the two as much as saying that any player that does not command the strike zone will not age well, as their other skills dimish.

        And check out this quote from Teix:
        “You hate to say it again, but we don’t have home runs right now,” Mark Teixeira said. “It’s tough to string together a whole lot of hits against good pitching – we faced some pretty good pitching the last two nights”

        Yeah… we get FOUR hits and Teix laments that we get no HRs.
        So of course, he swings for one every AB. I love the HR but I’m tired of weak grounders to 2nd and infield popups in critical situations. JUST MAKE SOLID CONTACT and see what happens!

      • trr says:

        Let’s all look at Cano’ season in September. I’m not trying to tell you he’s gonna turm into Ted Williams in the 2nd half, but he IS a notoriously sneaky hitter.

  18. forensic says:

    If anyone’s curious, I found that 5-game homerless streak from 2006. May 17 and 18 at home against Texas and May 19-21 at Shea against the Mets.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      Wasn’t that right after that crazy 14-13 donneybrook with Texas?

      Hard to believe that juggernaut, “Murderers Row And Cano” lineup did that. But, as we later found out, that lineup was capable of going into quite the ill-timed team-wide slump…

      • forensic says:

        Yeah, that game was the day before. I remember that one thanks in part to the Yankees Classic on it. Coming back from down 9-1…

    • forensic says:

      For some reason Chad Jennings says it’s the longest homerless streak since 2000. Not sure if it’s a typo or what, but it’s odd that he’d be off by so much on it.

  19. Get Phelps Up says:

    Bad thinks happen when Michael Kay does west coast games.

  20. Reuben Sierra's Chains says:

    When Girardi says “The guys are hitting balls hard” who in the God Damn Hell is he talking about? I know it can’t be the Yankees.

  21. dalelama says:

    Certainly no one here should be surprised by anything other than their current record is better than expected. Everything other than the record; Arod not coming back, CC’s not being an ace, Romine sucking, Tex refusing to hit the ball the other way, Hughes mediocrity, all was predicted.

    I still stand by my prediction of a .500 winning percentage at year end.

  22. mustang(The Has Been & Wannabes Bunch 2013) says:

    So tired of the “BIG THREE” well at least the last 2 two.

  23. nycsportzfan says:

    This teams offense is wack! And why the fuck is Nunez still hurt? Get the fuck back you tool, and at least try and take the oppurtunity of a lifetime by the balls! Jesus!

    Hughes..lol Ya, he’ll be getting 50million all right!!!lol I never understood why mike was so sure of what Phil would get, the guys a toolbag who can’t pitch consistently if his life depended on it. Who in there right mind would pay that much money to have him pitch for em? You gotta have a brain the size of a pea to give hughes even decent money, let alone above decent money.

  24. Coolerking101 says:

    Wells saw NINE pitches in four at bats last night. Way to show some patience when in a slump. He’s hitting .195/.230 since May 1. He has to be the worst hitting corner outfielder in baseball during that time. The next time he’s allowed to hit against a RH pitcher, Girardi should be publicly flogged.

  25. Pat D says:

    Just as I suspected. Everyone’s ready to jump off the bridge.

    Please, bridge-jumpers, proceed with your plans.

    • shittyshittybangbang says:

      Just venting and frustration. That’s what fans do. Doesn’t mean anyone’s jumping off of anything, cause if you like what you’re seeing, then …..,

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        “We just ventin!”

        The rally cry of the RAB ultra-spoiled.

      • Pat D says:

        When it’s the same people doing the same “venting” all the time, it’s not “venting.” It’s repetitive whining.

        I understand venting perfectly well. You can vent to yourself. It doesn’t need to be done on this board after every single fucking loss, especially after there’s probably been tons of venting during the game thread.

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          ….and this.

        • trr says:

          I gotta agree with you here. Yes, I understand the need, and people sometimes see this as an online support group, “Yankee Fans Anonymous”, but collectively as Yankee fans, we ARE spoiled. I’ve been around to see the lean years too, so maybe I’m a little more patient than some. I’m gonna go a little Stirling on you now, but there IS a lotta baseballyet to be played. In spite of everything I still think we can contend this year…

          Speaking of “Yankee Fans Anonymous” I’ve never been to an AA meeting, do you think they have their own version of trolls who show up?

    • Reuben Sierra's Chains says:

      STRAW FUCKING MAN And no not Daryl

  26. shittyshittybangbang says:

    Wells !, wtf ?! Youk, wtf + d.l. a swing away ! Straily = cy young. Teams and opposing pitchers must think that these are bizarro yankees. Hate to be pessimistic, but WOW ! At least bring a kid up to give us something / anything to root for. To do list; hire all available front office personnel away from st. Louis and giants, asap !

  27. Robert says:

    Immediate fixes are in NEAL/Almonte/Musty call them up as an attempt to show the fan base we are trying.

    If the Marlins today said they would take 4 prospects for Stanton I couldnt find 4 guys in our system that I thought they would accept.

  28. Kosmo says:

    I´m sure the FO is poking around to see who might be/become available in the next 6 weeks.

    Yanks should make an effort to move Hughes and Joba. Teams like the Reds, Angels, Padres could use a SP or reliever. I know this will never happen but doesn´t it make a little sense to trade for a very good 2B prospect? I´d suggest trading Joba to the Reds for H. Rodriquez a 2B,3B prospect. He´s blocked by Phillips and doesn´t project much beyond a UI but he could come in handy if Cano goes elsewhere. I´d also see what it would take to land Lindsay the Angels 2B prospect.
    Hughes for Amarista for example might be a good deal for both teams. Yanks have Nuno, Nova and Pineda to fill the role. Nolasco ?
    Overbay should be traded or DFAd. Why play Youkilis ? Is Adams any worse ? Let the kid play.

  29. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Hard to hold off the Hughes haters today after his performance tonight. That was as awful and frustrating as Phil Hughes is going to look. I have to admit that, when I see starts like that, I’m not sure quite what I see either. He’ll be out there again in five days time, I guess.

    Thank you all for the nightly reminders that this isn’t a potent offense. I thought we had figured that out back in, say, April. Hey, though, if you “vent” it every night, maybe it’ll magically turn into something. It’ll turn into something when your regulars are healthy and effective, if that ever comes to fruition in time. How did that last sentence read through the troll filter, Jim?

    Still in the thick of things in mid-June. That could certainly change, but the other shoe was supposed to drop ages ago, and it still hasn’t.

    • Steve says:

      I didn’t watch the game or see any replays. Looked to me like Phil Hughes actually pitched well, though.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Weakest attempt to make fun of a regular ever. I’m not even convinced you’re actually referring to yourself there.

        Back to troll school. “Being Annoying as Shit,” as taught by Greg, begins at about the second inning tonight.

        • Steve says:

          You serious? I’m referring to this effort http://riveraveblues.com/2013/.....nt-6068499

          • Pat D says:

            I’m pretty sure he knew what you meant.

            But it’s a tad disturbing that you seem to obsessively remember what someone said in a game thread weeks ago.

            I mean, that really just proves you’re a troll.

            • Steve says:

              One of you guys is going to have to explain how the whole hilarious meme thing works. I still hear “parades” in every thread. When did that get mentioned? All-Star break last season?

              I thought when you said something indefensibly asinine it was fair game to be brought up later. Or is that only if I’m in the Facebook group?

              • Pat D says:

                Facebook group? Not sure what you mean. I’ve only been on Facebook for a few months and don’t do much on it except play Candy Crush.

                The parade meme is stuart a’s contribution. When he started trolling, because that is all he does, he typically would say that we should “throw a parade” for whatever player didn’t perform in that particular game. It was usually reserved for ARod and Cano, but was used for others as well. He said it in practically every post he made for weeks running. That’s why it became a meme and that’s why most people know what it means. I can’t remember exactly when it started.

                I don’t think Tilapia’s original comment was that asinine. It wasn’t trolling, it was an honest question based upon just looking at the box score. He only made that comment once. It wasn’t something that was repeated over and over again, so that’s why that doesn’t qualify as a meme.

                Personally I don’t remember particular individual comments unless someone personally attacks me, which has happened a few times. I’ll remember people who make the same comment constantly, which a few people here do. Since Tilapia made that comment just once, it wouldn’t have been something I’d remember. Hence why I made the stalker comment.

              • Robinson Tilapia says:

                Steve,

                You can bring up whatever little tidbit from April 2013, April 2012, or April 2007 you wish. You can complain about memes you weren’t a part of, potential contact members have offsite you’re not a part of, and whatever else as much as you want.

                Just keep in mind that, when you do so, it’s a hell of a lot more a reflection on you than it is on anyone else and, by that, I mean it comes off as pretty damn desperate and that the other kids aren’t letting you play with their toys.

                So please, continue to keep tabs on what I wrote three months ago. Be my guest.

                I am not replying further to this.

  30. Little Jerry Sinefold says:

    When and if we get Granderson, Jeter and ARoid back, I’m afraid it’s going to be the same old story. Grandy will strike out 3 out of every 5 at bats, ARoid and Jeter will show their age. Tex and Yousless already look lost.

    Has anybody mentioned Kevin Long in all these hittig woes? Seems to me when good hitters sign with the Yankees their hitting ability goes south. Tex and Grandy are perfect examples.

    Maybe we need to bring Chris Chambliss back? I’ll try anything at this point as I’m sick and tired of watching this team struggle game after game after game. We put more pressure on CC, Hughes, Pettite and Koroada to hold the opposing team down cause we can’t score runs after putting runners on base.

  31. More and more I don’t understand the ‘great girardi’. Nix steals, and you pinch hit for romine with a one ball count. Overbay comes up. Now in the post game, he said he prepared for this, he wanted the lefty to come in so he could send ‘stew’ up because he had some good swings against him. Overbay could tie into one and give you a lead. overbay could be used later against the closer. overbay played first for three months and sometimes came through in the clutch. But, to say you planned this to get ‘stew’ up. You planned on Chris Stewart…what is the man crush he has on this guy.

  32. Mike says:

    Not one of Hughes’ best games but you can’t expect him to win em all. I’m sure he’ll throw well next start.

  33. Nat King Kong says:

    “Good Phil and a Bad Phil. Good luck guessing which one shows up for a given start”

    Seriously??? That’s easy. Horrible Phil almost always shows up. He’s awful most of the time. Yeah, every once in a while “Good Phil” shows up, but not that often, really. Good call with the “morphing into A.J. Burnett” line. I’ve been thinking the same thing lately. It’s getting so that I need a barf bag next to me whenever he takes the mound. Pughes stinks almost as bad as our offense… and that’s saying something!

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