Pineda strikes out four in Spring Training debut

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In his first Grapefruit League game in nearly two years, Michael Pineda struck out four and allowed a single in two scoreless innings of work against the Tigers on Friday night. The four hitters he struck out were Austin Jackson, Danny Worth, Rajai Davis, and Miguel Cabrera. Three legit big leaguers, including the best hitter on the planet. Not bad. Twenty-one of his 27 pitches were strikes.

According to Joel Sherman, Pineda’s fastball was clocked mostly in the 90-92 mph range with one 93. His slider was 80-82 mph. Not bad velocity following shoulder surgery but obviously not where he was sitting during his All-Star rookie season in 2011. “If I’m the Yankees, I’m pleased. Enough velocity. Sharp with slider and location. Appeared confident and aggressive,” said a scout to Sherman. So far, so good. Pineda’s next start will be Thursday’s game, which will air on YES and

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  • Dalek Jeter

    So…we won the trade?

  • Bo Knows

    That’s good velocity for this early in the year, its extremely possible that it could improve one or to ticks.

    • RetroRob

      Yes, most likely. His velocity could even increase over the next year or so. Anibal Sanchez had similar surgery, and his velocity continued to tick up for several years.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Great first step. Really rooting for him this season.

  • SevenAces

    I don’t care, I’m going to declare that we won this trade! Take that Jack Z! You suck!

    But for precautionary reasons, I’ll continue to send Montero donuts…….

    • CS Yankee


  • vicki

    still think they stick him in aaa to start the season.

    but yeah. we won the trade.

    • Paco Dooley

      I agree – I think he makes a handful of AAA starts as a precaution – make sure he continues to look strong and is ready before throwing him in there (especially with someone like Phelps ready for the MLB rotation).

      As for winning the trade – will also be interesting to see Campos in the future – Noesi has been absolutely horrendous.

      • Cheval Anonyme

        If Pineda looks better than Phelps, why would you not put him in the ML rotation at the start of the season? Why waste his good innings at AAA? Why potentially give up a win? If he needs more work on some pitch, fine; but it doesn’t make much sense to stick a better pitcher in the minors for some vague “precautionary” reason.

        • lou

          Because it’s the kinda shit the Yankees always do. Nobody is every ready in the Yankees eyes.

    • Hawkeye

      Why does anyone have to “win” the trade. For one thing it is way too early. He only pitched 2 innings. So if Montero were to get 2 hr in a game, the Yanks all of a sudden “lost” the trade? All the Yanks should care about is the health and success of Pineda and Campos. If one or both of them have successful careers pitching for NY then the team is better off regardless of what Montero does. Who knows, maybe Jesus will learn how to play 1st base and end up back in NY (see Soriono, Alphonso)

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        If someone doesn’t win the trade, we spent years arguing nothing and will have to look in the mirror and face this reality.

        Someone HAS to win this trade, for our sakes.

        • nyyankfan_7

          Consider my mind blown

      • nsalem

        Alphonso will be a phantastic phucking phirst baseman.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Phuckin’ A.

          I LOVE that my phone just tried to autocorrect to “Phucking.”

  • TWTR

    It is very encouraging. I wonder where his change is at. And if he is pounding the bottom of the zone more.

    • TWTR

      I found this in the NYT: (it also mentioned that Robertson is working on a change.)

      “I threw the ball great tonight,” Pineda said. “I did a good job. My command was perfect. Same with my slider and changeup. I showed Michael Pineda. I threw my game. I’m happy.”

      So are the Yankees.

      “His slider was good, his changeup was good, he showed a lot of confidence,” Yankees Manager Joe Girardi said. “I don’t want to make too much of it, but we liked what we saw.”

      • forensic

        Oh good, he’s already referring to himself in the third person.

        • Paisa

          Yeah, really. What the hell is he thinking? I hope it’s just a language barrier thing.

          • Rickey Henderson

            Rickey agrees.

            • Paisa

              “Apples and fuckin bowling balls”

          • Mykey

            I’ve never heard a Spanish speaker do that, at least in the way he did. It doesn’t strike me as a language barrier thing. Just a silly phrase.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Jorge Steinbrenner agrees with that.

          • Cheval Anonyme

            Oh, c’mon. He is not referring to himself in the third person. “I showed Michael Pineda” means “I pitched in the classic pitching style of Michael Pineda.” “Michael Pineda” is the pitching style, not the person. And his mastery of English seems just great.

        • UncleArgyle

          + 1

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          Hey, it just shows that his confidence wasn’t damaged by the injury.

          I’m pretty fucking pumped.

          Oh, and vindicated! That’s what you get for doubting my pronouncements that he should be fine!

          *Furtively knocks on wood*

        • Steve (different one)

          Well, except he wasn’t.

          I count the pronoun “I” 5 times and 3 “my”….

          • Cheval Anonyme


        • nyyankfan_7

          It’s what former brain scientists do

          • Mr. Roth

            This is a fact.

  • stuckey

    Guy has only pitched a cup of coffee of competitive innings in 2 years.

    I’d caution anyone from extrapolating his velocity ceiling from one start.

    Could very well sit 91 all year, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if that number rose significantly as his arm logs ML innings.

    I’ve got zero expectations in the first week of March what this dude will be throwing on the first week of July (assuming he is, of course).

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    If Pineda made the all-star game this year, and the Montero ended up at AAA, I would die from laughing.

    For so long I missed Montero but looking at what he has become and how the current Yankee roster is constructed I’d

    A) Much rather have a healthy Pineda


    B) have a hard time working him into the lineup. “His bat is good enough they’ll find him playing time.” only goes so far.

    • Paisa

      Personally, I don’t think it’d be too hard to fit Jesus into this lineup. That being said, Pineda is the better guy to have.

      • Mscott

        We could have him play second base — at his girth he could just lie down midway between first and second and stop a large number of grounders. That would be one way to get his fat – I mean bat – in the lineup.

    • Ed

      With what Montero is now, yeah, he’s not someone you regret trading away.

      If we still had him and he hit the way we expected him to, he’d be the DH this year and we wouldn’t have signed Beltran. That leaves an extra $14.5m to spend elsewhere.

  • forensic

    He was 90-91 in two shutout innings in his first start in the 2012 ST too, and everyone from fans to the teams were all excited. He also hit 93 in his second start. I’m just saying it’s only two innings and a lot can happen before April 1st. Personally, I don’t want to fall into the trap of having too high an expectation of him based on only two innings (which almost none of us saw, anyway).

    As an aside, for some reason all the articles I’m finding from then gave his fastball numbers, but then added in numbers for a splitter and a curve, neither of which he throws. Maybe I just don’t remember him experimenting with other pitches (other than the change which he’s always been working on, though no mention of it from tonight that I’ve seen), but that all seemed weird.

    Maybe what they called ‘splitters’ were actually his changeups (the velocity looks similar to 2011, but I have no idea what the curve’s were. Their velocity’s were in the upper 70’s I think, so that’s well off his slider.

  • Paisa

    It will be interesting to see Manny throw tomorrow. It’s becoming more difficult with each day not to imagine him, Tanaka, and Pineda at the top of the rotation for the next few years. If Manny does well, it also gives them the ability to include Phelps in any potential deal, which is huge.

    • Steve (different one)

      New toy syndrome and all that, but lets not forget Nova….he may wind up the best pitcher out of all of them (well, hopefully tanaka is the best….) and he’s not exactly old.

      I fully expect to be bit in the arse by this, but I am very bullish on Nova right now.

      • CountryClub

        Nova has certainly showed extended flashes. It’s a big if, but, if 3 of those 4 pitchers turned into legitimate starters, the yanks would be in great shape.

  • Estavanico

    Anything from this tweet?

    Brian Heyman 3h
    RT @danpfeiffer74: A source close to #Yankees has told me team is taking offers for Austin Romine

    I’d think Romine would be the last one other teans would be interested in. Not sure what he would return? Didi, Nick Ahmed or Beckham?

    • Jerkface

      Given that it is a tweet from’s “new york yankee correspondent”, which means literally nothing, I’d say no.

      • Kosmo

        players linked to NY as possible trade candidates:
        Marcus Semien 2B/SS/3B

        I´d like to add 3 others as a possible backup plan at 1B.
        Parmelee 1B/RF
        Neftali Soto 1B/ can fake 3B
        Josh Vitters 1B/3B

        not sure what Romine might bring in return.

        • Mscott

          Owings would be the man but it would take Murphy + – not Romine – to get him, I think.

  • LarryM Fl

    I’m very pleased over the Pineda performance last night. But, we must put one foot in front of the other and slowly. He has not performed in two years. We must see more consistent appearances such as yesterday and good health. Bloggers talking about we won the trade and All Stars games that is way out there. But I would take Pineda as the 5th starter if his arm/shoulder would hold up.

    Romine before anyone else,yes indeed.

  • CountryClub

    @eboland11: One veteran opposing scout on Pineda tonight: “Very impressed. Yankees should be pumped.” Had fastball at 91-93 mph

    As others have said, it’s only two innings. But his performance last night is certainly better than the alternative.

  • Steve (different one)

    While I agree with all the caution about his “velo” (ugh), the bottom line is he whiffed 4 guys in 2 innings.

    I don’t know why the radar gun is the headline, if he’s getting legit swings and misses from big leaguers, that tells me a lot more than the guns readings.

    Of course it is only ST, but his stuff must be pretty good, no?

  • Chip Rodriguez


    Struck out Miggy Cabrera in his return – couldn’t ask for much more.

  • Tanakapalooza Floozy

    This can’t be right. If there’s one thing I know, it’s that Cashman failed. Somehow in all this we’re not getting the full story.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner


      • Tanakapalooza Floozy

        Be excellent to each other!

  • Denny G

    Crown his ass!

    • Mr. Roth

      Pineda is who we thought he was!

  • CashmanNinja

    In response to the talk of the Yankees getting offers from Romine and gauging interest…there’s absolutely no way it’ll be for Owings. The D-Backs seem to be souring on Gregorius, while Owings is looking much more solid this spring. I still think Didi has great defense, but his offense is not looking very good right now. If they want to swap Didi for Romine then I’m fine with that, but it’s at the point where I don’t think they should add a ton in order to get him. I still have faith in him though. I think he could be similar to Andrelton Simmons, but with a glove that isn’t quite that good as well as less homers. It’s looking less than being the sure thing he seemed like he’d be just a year ago, but I have no problem trading catching depth for him since Romine would waste away in the minors anyway.

    As for Pineda…all I have to say is hell. fucking. yes. I know it’s spring training, but it’s extremely impressive considering the nature of the injury and the fact that he looked so sharp this soon.

    • RetroRob

      I’ve never been a big Gregorius fan, although it has more to do with the perception of who he is. Towers didn’t help that by comparing him to Derek Jeter. He’s all glove, little bat, not much speed on the bases. In other words, he’s the opposite of Jeter.

      After his hot start last year, Gregorius struggled to hit .210. I do think he can provide more than that with the bat, but not necessarily a great deal more. He’s kind of Brendan Ryan-esque, but younger.

      How much is that work prospect wise? I wouldn’t have an issue if they traded Romine for him. I wouldn’t trade Murphy for him.

      • CashmanNinja

        I wouldn’t trade John Ryan for him either, simply because I think he looks like he’ll be a legit MLB catcher (not great, but that is still insanely valuable to have someone like that for so cheap). I like Romine, but I just don’t think his bat will ever make much of an impact. I think he’s a career backup (albeit a solid defensive one). I view it as a fair swap because each team could hope to get a little more out of the players they pick up. I’d much rather get Owings (much, much rather), but I really don’t think the D-Backs would do that unless we blew them out of the water, which we won’t. So Romine would be a fair trade in my opinion — maybe add in a low level guy who won’t amount to much to push it over the edge and get a deal done. I won’t hold my breath for Didi to turn into anything great. He’s like a reverse Nunez — no bat, but good defense. That’s still plenty valuable though so I’ll take it.

  • GeorgeinJAX

    I can’t recall the exact date (5-6 yrs ago) I want to a Tampa Yankees Single A game to check out Montero.
    While Montero mashed the ball at DH, Romine stole the show with his poise behind the plate and his offense.
    Romine MAY still blossom. Murphy has jumped him, but if his back stays healthy Romine COULD still be a productive catcher (like Cervelli). The days of having an all-star at every position is gone.