Karstens tearing it up


From PeteAbe:

Karstens tossed seven innings in the World Cup quarter finals, striking out seven, walking none, and throwing 66 of 82 pitches for strikes.

So it’s USA vs. Netherlands in one semi, and Japan vs. Cuba in the other. I’m not sure of the schedule. Maybe Karstens will have enough rest to pitch the finals?

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  1. Mike A. says:

    Classic 4-A guy. Destroys minor leaguers, gets destroyed by big leaguers. He’s still young enough that he might figure it out though.

  2. marc says:

    mike a… still a sour taste in your mouth from him giving up game winning homers at the end of the season? maybe. just maybe he was in the wrong role? ya know cuz joe def knew how to use his young pitchers… it is after all possible that a healthy karstens is best suited for the rotation? listen i know he wont amount to much but he can be servicable no?

    • Mike A. says:

      No sour taste, he was getting shelled no matter what role he was in or what time of the year it was. Like I said, he’s young enough that he could still figure it out.

      • marc says:

        how come “where’s my velocity” phil can miss month with a leg injury and get a pass yet when karstens does he doesn’t get any sort of a pass. must be like fb/gb ratios cuz if you want w can always compare there mutually exclusive 89mph fastballs :D

        • Casper says:

          Can someone please explain the concept of “mutually exclusive 89mph fastballs?” Is that, like, a gyroball or something?

          • JCP says:

            Although preternaturally gifted at throwing a baseball relative to the rest of us, Karstens sucks in comparison to other prospects…. hate to be a downer but the guy will exceed all expectations if he ever becomes even a league average pitcher.

  3. Philipp says:

    The final is on sunday. So it should be not a good idea to send him on the mound with one day rest against the Cuban hitters. ;)

  4. Mitchell's Eleven says:

    This might actually make him somewhat maybe slightly a trading chip. Sell high.

  5. Stephen says:

    I’m not saying that it’s not a good thing but I don’t think we should get too excited. I don’t mean to offend Korea’s Baseball World Cup Squad but they’re hardly the ’27 Yankees. We’ll see how he does in a potential matchup against Cuba.

    • JCP says:

      I don’t know anything about Korea’s team, but Korean baseball in general is pretty underrated. Indeed, it’s very possible that had Seung Yeop Lee not signed to play in Japan that he might be the Yankees current first baseman.

      They did beat Japan 2 out of 3 times in the WBC (though this is a completely different team)…. that said, maybe Karstens strong showing can allow the Yankees to garner some value for him in a trade, because right now that’s the only role I see for him

      • Stephen says:

        I’ll agree that Korean baseball is pretty solid, and I do remember being impressed with their team in the World Baseball Classic. But I don’t believe that they have any players currently on a Major League roster (Now that Hee-Seop Choi is back in Korea.) Great if this raises Karstens potential trade value, but I doubt any teams will place too much stock in this tournament.

        • JCP says:

          Byung Hyun Kim and Cha Seung Baek, while not exactly studs, are still major leaguers…. not that it changes the discussion in any substantive way

  6. barry says:

    So whats this mean for the Yankees.

  7. Rob_in_CT says:

    Did somebody just actually compare Phil Hughes’ fastball and Jeff Karstens’ fastball?


    Yeah, sell high (if anyone is stupid enough to put much stock in this).

    • Mitchell's Eleven says:

      know who will put stock in it? teams looking for cheap pitching and willing to take a chance on someone young with any semblance of upside. this performance qualifies as “semblance of upside.” where would he be on the (Devil) Ray rotation right now with some of the stiffs they threw out there last year?

      • JCP says:

        he may have pitched for the Rays last year, but not this year… the Rays have not only the some of the best young starters already at the ML level, but they also have 2 of the best pitching prospects in baseball, not to mention guys like Sonnanstine, Howell and Niemann, all of whom probably have more upside than Karstens

  8. It is a nice outing, certainly. But this does little to his ceiling. Karstens is a decent, low-end option for some lesser teams out there, but cannot amount to much more than that.

    Regardless of what this might do to his stock, he is worth more as a here-and-there fill-in than he is on someone else’s team. Karstens alone cannot reap in much value via trade. There is little reason to deal him when we don’t really know what the rotation has in store for next season.

    The chance of Pettitte, Hughes and Joba all staying healthy all year long is slim-to-none. Therefore, Karstens is a nice commodity to have, even if he isn’t that good at what he does.

    • steve says:

      pretty optomistic that pettite is coming back eh ? i don’t see much in him beside him filling in as an emergency starter or as a 6th or 7th starter assuming hughges and joba get skipped a few times because of their innings limit.

      other than that, its a shame he wasn’t doing this in 2004 and 2005. we could have used him then. instead of all those guys who i can’t even remember pitching, may ? the guy in the big unit deal? aaron small ?

  9. The Scout says:

    Teams often need 8+ starters over the course of the season. Karsten lost 2007 to injury; this experiece shoot boost his confidence. If he remains with the team through the spring, he will prove useful next year. You don’t have to love him — seriously, who does? — to appreciate the value he can have.

  10. Rob_in_CT says:

    Oh, agreed. As injury insurance, Karstens… Rasner… guys like that are good to have. But we have others (Clippard, DeSalvo) who can provide similar results in an emergency. So if there is a team that would actually give up something for Jeff Karstens… I’d be all ears.

    • The Scout says:

      Off of their performance last year, I am not sure you can count on Clippard or DeSalvo to provide insurance. With pitchers of the caliber we’re talking about, there is comfort in numbers — try enough of them and sooner or later on eor two will help.

  11. barry says:

    I wish DeSalvo would of come through as beter than average.

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