Game 18: Those pesky Orioles


Nine and friggin’ nine against the Orioles last year. That’s pretty unacceptable for a team that basically had the inverse of the Yanks record. They hope to get off on the right foot tonight, as they take on the erratic — and that’s putting it mildly — Daniel Cabrera.

In his career, Cabrera has pitched 72.2 innings against the Yanks, to the tune of a 4.95 ERA. What’s strange is that while he’s struck out 7.52 per nine inning over his career, he’s only struck out 5.2 per nine against the Yankees. He’s walked 5.31 per nine over his career (hence the 5.02 lifetime ERA), and 5.70 per nine vs. the Yanks.

So he has struck out fewer hitters and has walked more vs. the Yankees compared to the rest of his career, yet his ERA vs. the Yankees is a tick lower than his lifetime ERA. Strange stuff. Could tonight be the night luck really catches up to him? We started moving in that direction last year, tattooing him for 20 earned runs (21 total) in 27 innings, with 18 strikeouts to 17 walks.

Really, Cabrera should be sick. He’s 6’7″ and has nasty stuff. But control problems have plagued his career, and not even the tutelage of Leo Mazzone could fix him. His ERA has climbed every year since 2005, and he has yet to crack a league-average ERA.

For the good guys, Phil Hughes takes the mount, trying to regain his form. And what better team to do it against than the Orioles? Yeah, they may be 9-7 now, but I can’t seem to figure out how. They only have three guys on the offensive side with an OPS+ above league average — and Luke Scott won’t be hitting .380/.456/.600 for much longer. Then again, it stands to reason that Ramon Hernandez will raise his paltry .152/.160/.326 line.

Oh yeah, and Edwar is in the house! Albaladejo is sent down, which is fine and good, since he tossed three innings last night. You might be asking what happened to Scott Patterson, but I don’t think it’s a big deal. Edwar will be gone once Joba comes back, which probably won’t be too far in the future.

Your lineups:

1. Johnny Damon, LF
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Bobby Abreu, RF
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Robinson Cano, 2B
7. Jason Giambi, 1B
8. Melky Cabrera, CF
9. Chad Moeller, C

And on the mound, number thirty-four, Phil Hughes

And for the O’s

R. Hernandez
L. Hernandez

Categories : Game Threads


  1. JRVJ says:

    I called Albaladejo going down last night, but I certainly thought Patterson would be the one coming up.

  2. GoYankees says:

    Let’s just hope Phil gets his act together a bit. He needs to calm down and do what he can do.

  3. Realist says:

    Yep , Phil really could use a good showing tonight to get him out of that last two game funk….or at least I hope!

  4. Manimal says:

    Disgusting throw, Arod better bomb it.

  5. Manimal says:

    wtf Arod. You look at all these good pitches till theres 2 strikes and then strike out.

  6. Mike A. says:

    Look at that, the only Yankee starter not to give up a homer. There’s something positive.

  7. Mike A. says:

    If the opposition scores, Phil Hughes doesn’t do well. Thanks Michael Kay.

  8. Mike A. says:

    Nice clean start for Phil. Good stuff.

  9. Manimal says:

    Giambi really needs to work on balence, most of the outs he makes would be hits if he didnt have a crazy shift.

  10. cjc says:

    too many walks and no swings and misses

  11. Grinch says:

    Hughes’ curveball is coming out sideways. He not yet thrown one for a strike.

  12. Jamal G. says:

    You know I hate Mike & the Mad Dog but today I have to say I agreed with them 100%. They ripped into ESPN for that so-called interview of Miguel Tejada where they just low balled the dude like a bunch of assholes. Mike Francesa called them out on being so hypocritical by using Ray Lewis and Barry Bonds as examples. The Ray Lewis issue was when ESPN’s own Stuart Scott was all friendly with Mr. Lewis as he was involved in a very much publicized murder trial. Francesa also pointed out how every ESPN baseball analyst/reporter was on their knees for Barry Bonds during all the scandals that he has endured thus far. He made one final point that rings so true, ESPN will never do anything like what they did to Miguel Tejada to stars like Kobe Bryant, Ray Lewis, or Barry Bonds because those guys were on top of their respective sports at the time of their respective scandals.

    I agree, it was such BS what ESPN did to Miguel Tejada.

  13. Mike A. says:

    Nice high fastball to strikeout Jones. Oh the horror of a 91mph fastball with life!

    • Jamal G. says:

      Excuse me sir, it was 92 MPH (according to Gameday). Come on Mike, how in the hell could you think a 91 MPH fastball can be effective enough to strike somebody out?

  14. Jamal G. says:

    Check out Ken Singleton dropping a Matt Weiters note.

  15. Jamal G. says:

    That curve just now made me cry.

  16. cjc says:

    maybe someone should tell moeller that phil throws a curveball and a changeup PC rising this inning

    I think those sideeways curves mentioned were sliders

  17. Manimal says:

    McNair’s at the game and Masn is interviewing him. Pretty cool.

  18. Mike A. says:

    Eric Duncan hit a homer. It’s going to be a good day.

  19. Jamal G. says:

    Oh the impatience is killing me.

  20. Manimal says:

    and the sideways curve is indeed a slider. about 78-81 mph.

  21. Mike A. says:

    How the hell do let Daniel Cabrera throw only 5 pitches in an inning? You could just stand there with the bat on your shoulder and work a 3-2 count off him!

  22. Joey says:

    that was a quick half inning

  23. Realist says:

    I am watching on gameday…how does Hughes’ control seem? I see he has thrown 40 pitches in 2 innings …23 for strikes.

    • Mike A. says:

      Really? It doesn’t seem that way, he’s been ahead of everybody, literally – Kay just said he threw first pitch strikes to every batter so far.

      • Realist says:

        Thats what gameday says? They aren’t always reliable “live”…so take it with a grain of salt.

        First strike pitches , woo hoo! Be agressive! Thanks Mike!

    • Joey says:

      seems pretty good, but I’ve only seen his last 6 or 7 batters, got here late

  24. Manimal says:

    Yikes, Phil got away with that high off speed pitch.

  25. Jamal G. says:

    Couple days late but here is some good news on progress by Humberto Sanchez and Andrew Brackman. Information on Jeff Karstens as well.


  26. Mike A. says:

    Nice quick inning for Phil. Oh wait, Giambi fucked it up.

  27. Yankee1010 says:

    When Giambi plays defense like that, who care if he hits .050 for the season? That man is a true asset.

  28. Ben K. says:

    Stellar play by Giambi right there.

  29. BigBlueAL says:

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, just release Giambi already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. Mike A. says:

    The Yankees’ best player this year has been the backup catcher. Nice stop by Moeller right there.

    • Manimal says:

      AMAZING stop, I can’t imagine a average joe going from their knees to a full jump up to catch a ball, unexpectedly as well..

  31. Yankee1010 says:

    You figure that Giambi should be familiar with groundballs to first. God knows he hits enough of them.

  32. Jamal G. says:

    I would like to see Hughes throw some more changeups, only two thus far.

  33. Manimal says:

    This umpire is 1000000x faster than the other one vs the sox.

  34. Jamal G. says:

    LoL, Michael made a funny.

  35. Joey says:

    We’ve got a no hitter going! (Trying to jinx it)

  36. Mike A. says:

    Those little two-seamers inside eat A-Rod up. That’s why Fausto owns him.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Seems to be the new book on A-Rod this year because Josh Beckett did the same shit last night.

      Damn you Nick Markakis. Other than Hanley Ramirez he has to be one of my favorite baseball players.

  37. Manimal says:

    come on Matsui!!!!! ITS GODZILLAAAAAAAAA!

  38. Manimal says:

    SHIT abreu.

  39. Travis G. says:

    ooh, might’ve been safe. gotta see a good replay.

  40. Yankee1010 says:

    That was close at the plate. No surprise he was called out though. It’s absolutely infuriating when an umpire calls a runner out simply because the throw beat the runner. Those replays weren’t great, so I’m not sure if that was the case with Abreu.

  41. Manimal says:

    I’ve never been a fan of Meachem. Ever since I saw the yanks get throw out alot in spring training.

  42. BigBlueAL says:

    he looked safe to me, but MASN’s replay wasnt that good a view.

  43. Joey says:

    Was he safe? Masn of MLB.tv didn’t exactly replay it from an angle you could see anything

  44. Manimal says:

    Masn just said he was safe.

  45. Travis G. says:

    Melky’s had some chances this year but hasn’t nailed a runner yet. i think he’s actually surprised when a runner tries him.

  46. Mike A. says:

    He was out. If nothing else, there’s no way you could look at that replay and say he was safe with any certainty.

  47. Manimal says:

    Shit, now they have momentum AND the fans.

    Dear Baltimore,
    The yankees do not suck.

  48. Travis G. says:

    eh, ok, i’ll take it.

  49. Jamal G. says:

    Run scored or not, that was some good pitching coming back from back-to-back hits.o

  50. Mike A. says:

    David Ortiz hit a grand slam. He’s now slugging .215.

  51. Travis G. says:

    a lot of flyouts for Hughes.

  52. Travis G. says:

    there ya go Robbie.

  53. Yankee1010 says:

    At least he didn’t ground into a double play. Let’s consider it a positive. But by all means, keep on playing him.

  54. cjc says:

    hey joe breaking news giambi is awful

  55. Jamal G. says:

    Melky Cabrera is straight nasty this year…thus far.

  56. Travis G. says:

    nice Melky, just missed it. btw, he’s slugging over .500 so far…

  57. Travis G. says:

    thank you Melvin!

  58. Jamal G. says:

    There is something so funny hearing the name “Flava Flav” come out of Michael Kay’s mouth.

  59. Ivan says:

    Flaaaavor Fllllaaavvv

  60. Yankee1010 says:

    Shelley is 2-3 with a HR and a 2B tonight. Maybe if he has 40 HRs in August and Giambi is hitting .083, Giambi will be given the concrete shoes.

  61. Jamal G. says:

    I really am loving Joe Girardi’s aggressiveness.

  62. Jamal G. says:

    In all honesty, what the hell is up with Johnny D. and all these broken bats?

    • Yankee1010 says:

      He’s swinging the bat terribly. He looks like he’s swimming uphill in water. At least his plate appearances are minimized batting first.

      • Jamal G. says:

        He is? I thought he’s been swinging pretty good since the start of that two game set in Tampa.

        • Yankee1010 says:

          He had two hits in that game, but is 1-10 since then. Hopefully, he isn’t done (but I think he is). If he has another month like this last one, Girardi has to get him out of the leadoff hole. I can understand if he wants to give him just a little more time, but ensuring him the most plate appearances is asinine.

  63. Mike A. says:

    Daniel Cabrera is a Triple-A pitcher for throwing near Derek Jeter.

    • Jamal G. says:

      I do not listen to people who have horrid teeth. If you can’t bother yourself with decent dental hygiene I can not be bothered with paying attention to you.

    • Mike R. says:

      What is Daniel Cabrera thinking throwing at Derek Jeter…I mean…well…AAA pitchers. He should be suspended.

  64. Jamal G. says:

    RAB should go over there and teach these casual Yankees fans a thing or two. They need some different info besides the shit they get from M&MD and Mike Lupica.

  65. Travis G. says:

    oh god, Kay breaking out the ‘betwixt and between’. first time this year?

  66. Jamal G. says:

    Chad Moeller is a pimp.

  67. Yankee1010 says:

    Moeller threw an absolute seed down to 3rd there.

  68. Jamal G. says:

    Was that really the first BB issued by Daniel Cabrera?

  69. Mike A. says:

    Oi, I thought A-Rod was out.

  70. Travis G. says:

    Arod showing off his speed. and THAT’s why he’s the best player in the game.

  71. Mike A. says:

    Forget AAA, Cabrera’s a AA pitcher.

  72. Jamal G. says:

    Lmao, I saw a blooper reel when I was at the game on Wednesday and it showed a guy swing and miss on a breaking ball that broke so much it hit him square on his cup. Classic.

  73. Yankee1010 says:

    This is just the guy the Yanks want at the plate.

  74. DanElmaleh says:

    This is it… The Melky lovers vs. haters right here…

  75. Jamal G. says:

    Vaya melky, golpeó la mierda fuera de la bola.

  76. Mike A. says:

    He should have stood still, that pitch might have hit him in the foot.

  77. Travis G. says:

    Phil, how bout a first pitch curve on occasion?

  78. kunaldo says:

    phil falls in love with one of his pitches every time…and then he just throws that one pitch to death usually…he’s gotta mix in more offspeed stuff……

  79. kunaldo says:

    i dunno mike, he’s been throwing an inordinate amount of fastballs…

  80. Jamal G. says:

    The Tampa Yankees have not recorded a base hit in seven innings but Tampa’s starter, Ivan Nova, did strike out 10 in his seven innings of three run ball.

  81. Jamal G. says:

    Actually the sequence to Luke Scott was Curveball, Fastball, Changeup. He is mixing the pitches just some times the hitters will be on it, no fault of his.

  82. Pedro says:

    Hughes’ command is nothing like what it was in the minors. Even when he throws strikes they are up in the zone.

  83. cjc says:

    fucking awful just awful

  84. Mike A. says:

    Bah. Hughes pitched well enough to win.

  85. Travis G. says:

    oh Alex. Hughes just doesn’t the command he normally has.

  86. Pedro says:

    Words can’t describe how bad the Yankees are playing tonight.

  87. Giselle says:

    i hate it when we score 1-2 runs for our young pitchers… the veterans really need to help out and pick them up! at least don’t throw crappy throws to first!

  88. Ivan says:

    oh well, nice start from Phil, not great but okay nevertheless.

  89. Pedro says:

    Walking a guy whos hitting under .200?

  90. cjc says:

    fuck this punch and judy shit

  91. Jamal G. says:

    Great, now this looks like another bad outing by Hughes. God Damn inherited runners.

  92. Yankee1010 says:

    Before Hughes pitches, I’m convinced that the fielders get together and cheer, “1-2-3, let’s rape Hughes!”

  93. Ivan says:

    You know, while Phil have been struggling, in the beginning in the year, I know he will pitch much better. Remember this is really the start of his first full year at the bigs. He’s gotten off to a slow start but I think he will pitch much better as the year prolouges.

  94. Travis G. says:

    and there’s the game.

  95. McLovin says:

    why the fuck is it always against the goddamn Orioles? They suck sooo much ass

  96. Mike A. says:

    How dare LaTroy disgrace Jon Leiber’s number like that!

  97. Pedro says:

    Hawkins is not really the guy you want to bring in with runners on base. He gives up a lot of hits.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Also induces a lot of ground balls so that is the guy you want because you don’t want to bring in Edwar (who is a great K guy out of the pen) in this situation as his debut to the 2008 MLB season.

      He also probably felt that Hawkins’ experience factor was important here beacuse Ohlendorf could have been the other option.

  98. Manimal says:

    Man, give moeller credit, hes constantly saved our asses/

  99. Manimal says:

    Man thats sloppy arod is officially in his 06 form.

      • Manimal says:

        this game, so sloppy. It was 1-1 before I took a shit and its 7 to 1 after(8-1 now.) I can tell from the body language of the players that there is absolutely no leadership from anyone, Joe Girardi included.

        Old school steinbrenner would fire Joe Girardi in a week.

        On another note, Cashmen’s genius signing of Latroy Hawkins seems to not be paying off(what do you know)

  100. Pedro says:

    Who would have thought, another single.

  101. Travis G. says:

    ugh, that’s all.

  102. mustang says:

    And mean while in Philadelphia…. just a reminder of what come been.
    Sorry just can’t help it . LOL

  103. mustang says:

    could of been

  104. Jamal G. says:

    Yankees relievers sure don’t like picking up their fellow pitchers do they. ;)

  105. Manimal says:

    Its really getting to me now., the 25 guys in the bullpen/dugout is NOT the best 25 men possible.

  106. Travis G. says:

    mustang, you cant judge the trade (or non-trade) for years. four starts does not a good judgment make.

  107. Pedro says:

    All I wanna know is what’s the excuse for the offense tonight. It’s not cold over there is it? They faced a crappy pitcher. What’s gonna take for them to start scoring runs?

    • Jamal G. says:

      Daniel Cabrera is NOT a crappy pitcher. He has some of the best stuff in the entire game. When he has his control and command he does this. When he doesn’t, he’s awful. Tonight he had the control and command and this is what he is capable of.

      • Pedro says:

        He NEVER has command. In fact he doesn’t even know where his ptiches are gonna end up. He walked 2 and hit another 2, so I don’t thn ik today was any different. The thing is right now they can’t hit with RISp to save their lives.

  108. mustang says:

    yes but that would of been joba or Bruney… what if….

  109. mustang says:

    Guys Please tell me something i don’t know but i live in the here and now

  110. Manimal says:

    Everyone look at my comment at 9:17 and apply it for the homerun.

  111. mustang says:

    I can dream…… you guys have a good night

  112. Giselle says:

    that chad moeller sure is growing on me.

  113. Mike A. says:

    Randor’s got a filthy sinker.

  114. Giselle says:

    i’m not sure, but i think the orioles want to lose this game. that’s ok with me.

  115. Travis G. says:

    oh how those extra runs could hurt us. we could merely be down 3-2 now.

  116. Manimal says:

    Seriously the bad luck is KILLING me.

  117. Pedro says:

    Bad bad luck.

  118. Jamal G. says:

    LoL, some Baltimore fan must have sold their soul to the Devil.

  119. Pedro says:

    Oh well, at least next year A-Rod will have another monster year, since this is the year to be human.

  120. Pedro says:

    None of those pitches were strikes to Matsui according to gameday

  121. Manimal says:

    What the hell I can’t believe what bad luck we have had. Arod and Abreu hit Doubles.

  122. BigBlueAL says:

    my thing with Hughes is not necessarily his outings so far, because u wouldve been a fool not to expect starts like this for a 21 yo pitching in the AL, BUT what im worried about is i just dont see “dominant” stuff. what is his K:BB ratio so far this season???? he has a nice fastball, but it isnt a 95-96 fastball, which is ok, he throws hard enuff, but he is essentially a 2-pitch pitcher. his curve looks nasty, but as Jim Palmer was saying, it looks nasty but the hitters dont swing at it when it is out of the zone. i hardly saw any changeups, and again, an erratic fastball location-wise. which is worse because he doesnt throw 2-seamers, and the problem with all those flyballs is eventually come summertime they start turning into hr’s. and lets remember, 2 out of his last 3 starts have come vs the Royals and Orioles, 2 pretty below average offenses.

  123. Pedro says:

    That’s 9 men left on base in 7 innings. Kinda hard to win when our offense sucks major balls like that.

  124. BigBlueAL says:

    well my night isnt totally lost, at least Isiah is officially FIRED as head coach!!!!!! btw if anyone cares, the Rangers r about to eliminate the Devils

  125. Travis G. says:

    at least the Rangers won.

  126. BigBlueAL says:

    fuckin MASN’s play of the game is Abreu gettin thrown out at home even though Palmer mentions he couldve been safe….actually i like Palmer as a commentator, cant complain too much

  127. Mike A. says:

    Oh well, go get ‘em tomorrow.

  128. iYankees says:

    if hughes keeps this up, i wouldn’t mind seeing him back in triple-a. he’s having mechanical issues that need to be corrected and, right now, i don’t know if that’s going to happen. it’s not like he just doesn’t have his command today (or on those other starts). this could become a big problem for the yanks.

  129. Mike A. says:

    Tim Kurkjian just said “arbitration can make you more money than free agency” on BBTN. He does not watch baseball.

  130. Ramadan says:

    Why I’m down on Huhges.
    1. he throws 91
    2. I don’t see dominant stuff
    3. He throws 80 pitches by the third inning
    4. Kennedy is better than him
    5. He shows has no emotion
    6. he is just BORING
    7. If he pitched for the red sox we weould be killing this guy
    8. He fails the eye test. HE IS JUST NOT THAT GOOD
    9. u guys can kill me all you want, the kid is very average
    10. He is not Johan Santana

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