Game 23: We could use a little Franchise


Every five or six days, for better or worse, it will be a big start for Phil Hughes. While that might be unfair, it’s reality. With every poor start, the detractors grow in numbers and increase in rabidity. Phil can’t make them go away with a quality outing, but he can certainly piss on their fire.

As noted earlier, Johnny Damon has something of a hot streak brewing, as he’s 7 for his last 14, with a pair of doubles and a pair of dingers. The guy hitting behind him has six fewer hits in his last 14 at bats. But if they get going at the same time, whoo-boy, we’re in for an offensive explosion — not that we’ve been lacking over the past three games.

After a stellar night, Jorge sits. It seems like a good idea at this point to give him some rest. You don’t want to risk anything with his shoulder. So Hava Molina gets the start behind the dish. One has to wonder how much longer Chad Moeller will hang around, especially since the Yanks face two lefties this weekend. Shelley Duncan could prove useful.

A-Rod is with the team. Not sure what his status is, though. Maybe he could pinch hit?

Your lineup:

1. Johnny Damon, DH
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Bobby Abreu, RF
4. Hideki Matsui, LF
5. Morgan Ensberg, 3B
6. Robinson Cano, 2B
7. Jason Giambi, 1B
8. Melky Cabrera, CF
9. Jose Molina, C

And on the mound, number thirty-four, Phil Hughes

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Number 27 says:

    6+ 2ER from the franchise tonight.

  2. mustang says:

    “Every five or six days, for better or worse, it will be a big start for Phil Hughes. While that might be unfair, it’s reality.”
    Agree. I’m in harmony with RAB today. LOL
    Adding to the pressure the fact that the old guy who many consider the weak link of this rotation just pitched 7 innings of 2 run ball.
    Good Luck, Phil.

  3. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Looks like it will be rained out.

  4. Manimal says:

    Good to see Ensburg and Molina, possibly by tomorrow Moeller will be sent down for Duncan by tomorrow. Anyone else think it is a serious possibility that if we really need a catcher(like an emergency), Girardi is in good enough shape to play for a few days

  5. mustang says:

    Does anyone know if they have a return trip to Chicago this year?

  6. Giselle says:

    dang. i have nothing against molina, actually i love how he belts doubles all the time… but i feel like hughes just pitches better with posada catching him. i was kinda hoping posada would be out there today.

  7. E-ROC says:

    “Operation Shutdown” will be in progress tonight for the Franchise. Can’t wait to see it.

  8. RustyJohn says:

    I heard Moeller (or Mohler- unsure of spelling) was out of options? Is that correct? And why is Molina catching if Jorge was hitting the crap out of the ball last night?

    • Giselle says:

      apparently he has a routine day off. he’s had plenty of days off this past week! get back to work, jorge!

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      Girardi said that was the plan to bring Jorge back from his injury…to have his catch for 2 days and then rest him completely. He said they weren’t going to risk a re-injury because he was hot last night.

  9. ansky says:

    As PeteAbe pointed out, theres no return to Chicago after this, so they will be trying to get this game in.

  10. Link says:

    yeah Moeller is out of options…granted it was small sample but the way he hit and caught he probably won’t clear waivers which sucks…jorge caught 2 nights in a row they don’t want to push it i’m sure….

  11. steve (different one) says:

    when Molina catches, Jorge should play 1B.

  12. Jamal G. says:

    Hey, if the game gets rained out at least we get too see LeBron James bitchslap the Wizards into an 0-3 hole…and prove he is the 2008 NBA MVP.

    • no. that would be chris paul (MVP)

    • Newman says:

      Ha, that’s a joke. Both Kobe and CP3 are much more deserving of MVP

    • Ivan says:

      Seriously, is beating the Wizards that big of a deal. A team that if they were in the western conference wouldn’t make the playoffs. Did you saw what paul did? Did you saw what Kobe did? I like LeBron but it does help when you play in the leastern conference.

    • Mike A. says:

      Dude, I hate basketball, but even I know Chris Paul’s the MVP.

      • Jamal G. says:

        One question, name me two players you would want on your squad from Cleveland’s roster other than LBJ. I defy you to do so. Now, try and do the same with New Orleans and Los Angeles.

        The argument for Kobe is just wrong. He (LeBron) statistically OWNED Kobe this season and did it with a much less talented roster. No argument for Kobe over Paul and James, none. Chris Paul however is the argument. Although LeBron still had success with what less than Paul had (but to a much lesser degree than the talent gap between Cavs and Lakers’ roster), Paul is no doubt deserving of the MVP. However, what LeBron had to do with that “NBA team” in Cleveland is just frustrating, he got them home court in the 1st. RD with Zydrunas Illgauskas (14.1) and Daniel Gibson (10.9) as his leading scorers (no one else averaged double-digit PPG). Come on, I love Chris Paul but what LeBron James did statistically and team wise, he is the 2008 (and 2007 IMO) NBA MVP.

  13. RustyJohn says:

    Any word on where Mr. Betemit will end up after his nasty bout of pink eye is cured?

  14. GoYankees says:

    45+ minute delay expected

  15. Newman says:

    9:30 start time, as per PeteAbe

  16. joba says:

    how about masterson

  17. Giselle says:

    i was just listening on the radio broadcast on mlb.tv (since the video only has a useless “Rain Delay” graphic) and they said the game is supposed to start in 45 minutes. looks like they will be getting this game in no matter what.

  18. E-ROC says:

    Is it still raining heavily?

  19. GoYankees says:

    Nope, that’s the only trick I know.

  20. Mike A. says:

    PeteAbe says they’re pulling the tarp off the field.

  21. mustang says:

    This sucks I was hoping to see a little bit of the game on T.V. Now I get to enjoy Susan and John on the way to work. I hate them.

  22. Jamal G. says:

    One question, do any of you guys have an answer on what the hell has happened to Scott Shields? Was it just overuse & abuse? Seriosuly, what the hell has happened to him?

  23. Jamal G. says:

    94 MPH by Phil Hughes on his first two heaters????? It can’t be! His mechanics are all wrong and he needs more seasoning in the minors dammit!

  24. Mike A. says:

    Helluva scoop kid.

  25. Jamal G. says:

    Anybody else thinks that Michael Kay has been salivating to say that “Cabrera, Cabrera” line?

  26. Jamal G. says:

    Not to be nitpicking or anything, but I almost swear to it that this is the first complete inning of 2008 that Phil Hughes did not throw three straight fastballs to one single hitter. Also nice to see a couple changeups early in the game.

  27. Jamal G. says:

    Have to appreciate the 23 pitches over two innings thus far.

    BTW, the guy over at WasWatching, does he have an official reason on why he hates Phil Hughes? Steve Lombardi I believe is his name.

  28. Jamal G. says:

    I don’t know about you guys but I still wonder if it’s a dream that Phil Hughes is actually here. Like he really made it through all the trade proposals, he really lived up to the hype in his minor league career, he really has made it to the Bronx. Still feels like a dream to me.

  29. Mike A. says:

    He needs to control his emotionalism on the mound?

  30. Jamal G. says:

    Anyone besides me would have called for a bunt there by Molina? I know it’s only the 3rd, but Molina has just gotten back to playing and you can’t expect him to rake like he was while he was a regular. Minor issue, if one at all.

  31. Manimal says:

    WOW, I was watching th Giants Super bowl dvd, I heard 930 start, at 9:22 I put it back to directtv and its bases loaded in the 3rd AND no runs from hughes. Ill assume he hasnt pitched 2 innings with 8 ER

  32. Jamal G. says:

    Look at that agility by the Big G. :)

  33. Manimal says:

    WOW, Giambi showing some speed. However I think Shelley duncan would have KILLED pierzinski.

  34. Mike R. says:

    Ozzie Guillen has 0 respect for Morgan Ensberg. Like none. Zip. Zero. Nada…

  35. Manimal says:

    Bobby’s 1000th RBI, congrats to him.

    Why is Guillen pitching to Ensburg, second or third time he IBB’d the guy before him.

  36. Jamal G. says:

    I read that Jesus Montero also made a nice play on a bunt last night in addition to his foiling two steal attempts.

  37. Jamal G. says:

    I understand the reality that the NFL is to the USA as futbol is to the world and that’s why ESPN covers the draft ad nauseam, but it kind of sucks that no one other than Brian Kenney on SportsCenter can tell you who the #2 pick in the 2007 MLB draft was.

  38. Rich M. says:

    the Indians should be dead tired for tomorrows game. they are still playing the first game of a double header.

  39. Manimal says:

    Ok, seriously Fuentes looks like a perfect fit for the yanks and he keeps on pitching amazingly. Of course I’m skeptical of the switch from NL to AL, but he could still be very effective.

  40. Ivan says:

    So how about them Cavs Jamal?

  41. BigBlueAL says:

    anyone heard of when game might re-start??? watchin on the package so cant get updates from YES, and Baseball Tonight showed highlights but didnt say when/if game will re-start.

  42. Mike R. says:

    Tarp is off and Ohlendorf is coming in according to Peteabe.

  43. Mike A. says:

    Game’s back. Yay.

  44. BigBlueAL says:

    really sucks for Hughes

  45. Jamal G. says:

    Per BBTN, they are just about ready to start.

  46. Jamal G. says:

    Wonder how come Joe G. didn’t follow the KC plan for tonight’s game.

  47. Number 27 says:

    6+ 2ER for franchise… take it to the bank!

    well at least we don’t have to hear about how shitty phil is for a week.

    new prediction: sick outing next time for franchise due to extra rest from only pitching 2 innings tonight.

  48. Ivan says:

    Just when Hughes was getting it started in concern of him pitching well, he gets knocked out by the rain delay. Now watch him give up mad runs against the Tigers and people get all over him.

  49. Mike A. says:

    Heh, this is likely to be the only time you can turn on the TV to find Ohlendorf pitching in the 3rd inning of a game Phil Hughes started, and NOT have it be a terrible thing.

    • Ivan says:

      Hey Mike A,

      What you thought of Phil Hughes despite the brief outing? He looked good to me and his fastball according to gameday was consistently hitting 94 and even hit 95.

      • Mike A. says:

        He looked good, wasn’t nibbling, went right after guys. The fastballs he threw to get the first to strikes on Thome in the first were filthy, both at the knees on the black. Can’t do anything with that pitch.

  50. planet says:

    brian kenny is a genius. love kellerman and kenny show on 1050

  51. BigBlueAL says:

    how bout Indians usin BOTH Carmona and Cliff Lee tonight, i assume knockin both out of Yankees series unless one of them comes back on 3 days rest on Monday, and with Westbrook on the DL, only Sabathia and Byrd r regular starters available for series vs Yanks, leavin 2 games where Indians will have to use god knows who.

    • Manimal says:

      SHIT, why is Ohlie still in there, split Kennedy and Hughes to today/tomorrow, have IPK pitch a little today in relief then tomorrow have Hughes start for a couple more innings and then have IPK in relief again.

  52. Manimal says:

    Did he take enough warm ups?! God damn!

  53. Adam says:

    Big Blue AL, I know Jeremy Sowers is scheduled for Saturday.

    • Jamal G. says:

      They could call up Adam Miller, who would have his regular four days rest for Monday’s series finale after pitching yesterday against Scranton.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      i just saw that, Byrd-Sowers-CC first 3 games, so i guess thanks to this doubleheader they will need someone to fill-in on Monday

  54. Jamal G. says:

    I’m literally gushing over Melky’s play thus far.

  55. Clayton says:

    I’m watching on mlb.tv and the Chicago announcers just said that Hughes wasn’t strong enough to come back out unlike Floyd.

  56. Number 27 says:

    Hey, what’s the deal with leaving Floyd in? Isn’t he of somewhat similar status to Phil (though obviously someone more progressed in his development)? Is it smart to leave anyone in after a 45 minute rain delay? What do you guys think?

    • Clayton says:

      Its idiotic. It was something that people bad-mouthed Girardi about after he was hired because he did it once in Florida.

  57. Manimal says:

    WOAH ENSBURG! Arod wouldnt have done that.

  58. Ivan says:

    Boy those chicago guys are just funny.

    On a side note, The Rockets/Jazz game just started, folks hide the women and children it’s not going to be pretty.

  59. Manimal says:

    Wow, Cabrera had about 3 times to steal off of Ohlendorf and he didn’t do anything.

  60. E-ROC says:

    The Yanks may want to get a long reliever.

  61. E-ROC says:

    I wish for no more rain delays.

  62. BigBlueAL says:

    wish the game got rained out

  63. Manimal says:

    SHIT, I blink and its 3-3.

  64. Jamal G. says:

    Well this just isn’t fair, great start by Phil Hughes gets rained out and now our boy Ohly is in some trouble.

  65. E-ROC says:

    I wonder if Abooboo would’ve gotten to that ball if he turned and ran to the wall first. Then locate ball.

  66. E-ROC says:

    Just get an out. Probably should’ve just tagged third.

  67. ansky says:

    good god, this has turned

  68. BigBlueAL says:

    this could get real ugly

  69. E-ROC says:

    Abooboo could’ve had that one, too!

  70. Jamal G. says:

    Combined with the rain delay, there is no way this long half inning can be good for Gavin Flyd so let’s hope it stays at a 2-run deficit.

  71. Mike A. says:

    Rain, please come back sometime before the 5th.

  72. gxpanos says:

    booooooooo ohly.

    still love ‘im though.

  73. ansky says:

    johnny gettin em off to a good start here….and on to second

  74. Jamal G. says:

    Just read a post by Alan Horne’s father over at nyyfans.com and this is what he had to say:

    “Talked with Alan today. Looks like right now they plan on him throwing at 60′ on Friday and seeing what kind of reaction his arm gives them to work with. Not alot, but that’s the lastest.”

  75. Manimal says:

    HAHA, walks damon on 4 pitches and then he forgets Damon is on first. Way to go floyd.

  76. E-ROC says:

    How long before Floyd’s arm falls off?

  77. Mike R. says:

    I say Matsui gets a walk if Abreu doesn’t get on base. Call it a hunch. ;)

  78. ansky says:

    not really taking advantage of (what amounted to) a leadoff double there

  79. E-ROC says:

    ugh, opponents are hitting .357 against LaTroy

  80. E-ROC says:

    Good play by Cano.

  81. Jamal G. says:

    Why did commercials just make me miss the 1st out in this half inning?

  82. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Girardi should just pull a Torre and go to sleep now. He can’t be wanting to stay awake for this.

  83. ansky says:

    good play? great play.

    a slow night web gem for sure….

    oh come on LT

  84. LiveFromNewYork says:

    See what I mean?

  85. Mac says:

    Awesome job, hawkins.

  86. Mike A. says:

    Hooray for my fantasy team. Boo for Hawkins.

  87. Pedro says:

    Singles and doubles don’t do it anymore for hawkins. Only HRs now.

  88. Mike A. says:

    Through no fault of his own, Phil Hughes manages to tax the bullpen again. ;)

    The kid can’t catch a break!

  89. E-ROC says:

    LOL @ Giambi’s range.

  90. Newman says:

    Where are all the Latroy backers that were running rampant on this site last week?

  91. BigBlueAL says:

    tuff series for Hank to watch if he really wants to accelerate Joba leavin the pen to start, cause honest to GOD, w/o Joba in the bullpen, Mo is gonna be havin to save ALOT of games comin into the 8th inning like last night, if we can keep a lead til then…….

  92. Joey says:

    Hey all, just got back from the Rays-Jays game in Disney. WTF is goin on? Just read over at LoHud that there was a rain delay. Without having to read the 150 comments here, can anyone summarize the night for me?

  93. BigBlueAL says:

    Cano has to be back hittin 9th again until he starts hittin again

  94. E-ROC says:

    Cabrera is a pretty good hitter, lol.

  95. Jamal G. says:

    MELKY CABRERA, OMG, I’m dumbfounded. :)

  96. ansky says:


    Dont change the channel just yet.

  97. BigBlueAL says:

    MELKY!!!!! the real reason we didnt trade for Johan!!!!! jk

  98. Mike A. says:

    Who is that guy and what has he done with Melky Cabrera?

  99. Xavier says:

    THE next bernie!!

  100. Jamal G. says:

    This outing for Hawkins was a perfect microcosm of his season thus far.

  101. E-ROC says:

    Ugh, Jeter.

  102. E-ROC says:

    So…when will the Yanks get a legit long reliever?

  103. BigBlueAL says:

    shit, bringin in a RHP to face Ensberg, we’re fucked…..

  104. E-ROC says:

    Ensberg just can’t buy a lefty.

  105. Jamal G. says:

    Is A-Rod available to pinch hit? We do have Gonzalez ready to pinch run if he gets on and take over at 3B.

  106. Mike R. says:

    Every time Melky comes through big I want announcers to say “And THAT’S why the Yankees didn’t trade for Santana!!”

    Is that too much to ask. :)

  107. Mike R. says:

    Why not pinch hit Posada there and have Gonzalez play 3rd?

  108. Jamal G. says:

    That 2-2 pitch definitely made up for the 0-1 pitch.

  109. Mike A. says:

    An RBI single, by Morgan Ensberg. Booya.

  110. Jamal G. says:

    Thank You Mr. Ensberg.

  111. E-ROC says:

    Damn the lefties. Morgan can hit righties!

  112. Mike A. says:

    A four pitch walk to Cano with men in scoring position? That takes talent.

  113. Joey says:

    Is Ozzie going to explode soon?

  114. Jamal G. says:

    Lmao at a ChiSox fan saying “Throw strikes Linebrink, you putz!”.

  115. Mike R. says:

    Ensburg singles off of a RHP, Cano takes a walk. Now if Giambi can hit a triple this night will be complete.

  116. Joey says:

    Can we consider that Giambi not pulling the ball?

  117. BigBlueAL says:

    rekindle the release Giambi chants…

  118. BigBlueAL says:

    hold ur breath, Farnsworth is in…

  119. Jamal G. says:

    Ok, now I see why Ensberg wasn’t PH for. More than likely his spot will come up again and Gonzalez would not be an ideal option batting behind Matsui.

  120. Pedro says:

    Oh dear Lord, here comes the evil. Please God let us survive this inning.

  121. RustyJohn says:

    Ugh….let me first begin by reminding everyone that Windows Vista sucks balls as my slow ass computer struggles to move along…let me then follow with a prayer for Farnsworth….Dear Lord, please don’t let Farnsworth fuck up.

  122. Jamal G. says:

    I thought the worst guy on a little league team was the LF.

  123. RustyJohn says:

    So much for a 1-2-3 inning….

  124. E-ROC says:

    Great job by Cabrera to cut that ball off and keep Swisher’s hit at a single.

  125. Mike R. says:

    What is it with all these players missing games with pulled groins? I would pull my groin all the time when I was a teenager and it didn’t slow me down. AmI right fellas!?!? Am I right?

  126. RustyJohn says:

    I take back all the bad things I said about Jorge not being in the line-up

  127. Joey says:

    nice throw name-that-Molina

  128. eddy b says:

    Farnsworth sorta in love with his slider tonight. Also, tonight, the filthy-nasty-ness that is Timmy Lincecum. 6 IP 0 R, 9 K’s

  129. E-ROC says:

    Dear God, is Farns injured?? Looks like he hurt his groin on the follow-through.

  130. Mike R. says:

    1-2-3 even with the single! NICE!

  131. Jamal G. says:

    Smoke a 2-R HR against a RHP and in the very next PA you attempt a bunt single against a LHP. Now that’s versatility.

  132. Number 27 says:

    I can’t watch the game. anyone know if joba is available/ warming up in the pen?

  133. Manimal says:

    Not to jump the gun, but if Joba makes the HOF, does his name go on the Plaque as Justin “Joba” Chamberlain.

  134. Jamal G. says:

    Mariano Rivera only threw 17 pitches in his 5 outs yesterday, he can go one inning.

  135. RustyJohn says:

    Those sliders are so sick

  136. Mike A. says:

    Stupid Yankees. Don’t they understand people have to work tomorrow?

  137. eddy b says:

    ohhhhhhhhhh my god

  138. E-ROC says:

    What’s wrong with the damn mound?!

  139. Casper says:

    Joba hopping off the mound = Nightmare fuel.

  140. eddy b says:

    ok so apparently he’s a-ok haha

  141. BigBlueAL says:

    they r wastin Joba in the bullpen!!!!! lol

  142. E-ROC says:

    i live in mountain time zone. I’m an Idahoian now. Yeah!!

  143. RustyJohn says:

    I was just about to say how I would love to see Joba work in a change every once in a while and then he blows him away with that shit- shows you how smart i am

  144. Jamal G. says:

    I don’t know about you guys but a pitcher showing zero emotion after striking me out late in the game is worse than him pumping his fists. He just walks off the mound like he’s saying “Look bitch, you not even worth my time.” and that just hurts, LoL.

  145. Mike R. says:

    I have a three week old baby. I’m not sleeping anyway. ;)

  146. Jamal G. says:

    Look at that asshole in the stands who just swatted the ball away, what a dick, Lmao.

  147. RustyJohn says:

    I have faith in Godzilla- 2 run homer baby

  148. eddy b says:

    he and bobby look really uncomfortable with logan

  149. Pedro says:

    Comon Hideki!!

  150. eddy b says:

    ok so sort of retracted

  151. Mike R. says:

    Now you pinch hit with Posada.

  152. eddy b says:

    bobby jenks and reed johnson are the posterboys of chin-hair absurdity

  153. RustyJohn says:

    I have faith in Ensberg, 3 run homer baby…lol

  154. Pedro says:

    Can we get Alex up there to bat?

  155. Jamal G. says:

    Good call Mike R.

  156. BigBlueAL says:

    WOW, high strike there

  157. Mike R. says:


  158. Manimal says:

    Ensburg with a hot bat… Posada off the bench vs a pitcher with Heat…

    Girardi wants this to got to extras doest he.

    • eddy b says:

      i really agree with this. it’s obviously easier to say this now but morgan just hit a heater off the righty linebrink. Also if Andy Pettitte doesn’t go 8 tomorrow (and i know this is premature) …

  159. Jamal G. says:

    $10 say the guys in the booth for Chicago had a louder reaction than Bobby Jenks did on that double play.

  160. Pedro says:

    Damnit Posada. We really need A-Rod.

  161. Casper says:

    I just flipped over to Baseball Tonight. They showed Jayson Werth hit a homer today, and then they showed his mom in the crowd cheering for him. She was pretty good-looking. Orestes Destrada is like “whoah… uh… she’s young looking.”

    Ok back to the game, sorry.

    • BigBlueAL says:

      it was even funnier in the 10 pm edition, they were goin nuts sayin she couldnt be his mom, and then apparently they got confirmation it was and they said “we better chane topics” i was laughin my ass off!!!!

    • RustyJohn says:

      How does Orestes Destrade have a job as an analyst? Was Bret Barberie not available?

      • BigBlueAL says:

        i still cant believe Harold Reynolds kept his job as long as he did, and to think it took a sexual harrasment suite to let him go

        • Ben K. says:

          Wait. You can’t believe that a good analyst got to keep his job? And you do know that ESPN agreed to settle Reynolds’ lawsuit against them, leaving many to believe that he wasn’t exactly guilty of all that he was accused of doing?

  162. BigBlueAL says:

    YES should really not even bother showing the MPH of the pitches, their gun is SO SLOW its ridiculous, Joba hasnt thrown harder than 91 the whole time!!!! most of his fastballs have been in the 80′s!!!!

  163. Jamal G. says:

    I love the fact that he is frequenting the hammer but if I am not mistaken he has yet to deliver a changeup this season.

  164. Joey says:

    these idiots for the ChiSox broadcast are screaming at the ball “STRETCH, STRETCH!!!” God I miss Michael Kay or Joe Morgan… someone kill me please, didn’t think I’d ever say that

  165. Jamal G. says:

    Lmao, I remember that. God Damn did Michael Barret deck the shit out of AJ.

    • RustyJohn says:

      Yup, AJ is such a cock- one of the top 25 worst trades in MLB history has to be AJ for nathan, liriano, bonser

  166. BigBlueAL says:

    stop throwin all these freakin sliders!!!!

  167. Manimal says:

    proof that joba is not ready for a starting role. his Curve is hittable.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Every pitch he throws is supposed to be perfect?

    • Ben K. says:

      I enjoy how you are attempting to draw this conclusion from one bad outing when Joba’s breaking pitch wasn’t at its best. Every pitcher will have bad days now and then.

      Proof that Joba is ready for a starting role: His career numbers up through last August. No problems with the curve then.

  168. BigBlueAL says:


  169. Jamal G. says:

    Stupid rain delays.

  170. Mike R. says:


  171. Joey says:

    fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

  172. Pedro says:

    Lose to Joe Crede, sucks. We had our chance and Posada blew it. Well we’ll win it tomorrow.

  173. Joey says:

    Okay, so Joba’s not infallible… yet. He just had a big scare with his dad and we can put this is the “learning curve” column. Plus, as Manimal says, he’s destined for the hall anyway

  174. Jamal G. says:

    LoL, everyone seems a bit on edge.

  175. Ben K. says:

    If Joba were starting, he wouldn’t be blowing games in the 9th.

  176. RustyJohn says:

    From wikipedia

    In 2006, Pierzynski was named one of the five American League players in the All-Star Final Vote. Soon afterwards the Chicago White Sox organization began an election campaign using the slogan “Punch A.J.” Pierzynski received 3.6 million votes, the most votes in the American League, subsequently sending him to his second All-Star appearance. The “Punch A.J.” campaign was inspired by an incident on May 20, 2006 between Pierzynski and Chicago Cubs Catcher Michael Barrett. After a fly ball out, Pierzynski tagged up at 3rd and tried to score on the throw. After a collision at home, where Pierzynski knocked Barrett from his feet, Barrett grabbed Pierzynski and punched him. A bench clearing brawl ensued, and Pierzynski, Barrett, White Sox outfielder Brian Anderson and Cubs first baseman John Mabry were ejected.

    A May 2006 issue of Sports Illustrated featured a survey taken among 470 baseball players about what player they would most like to see get beaned. Pierzynski received eighteen percent of the vote, higher than any other player. Forty-two percent of those surveyed in the AL Central Division (which the White Sox play in) voted for Pierzynski.

    • Jamal G. says:

      It still makes me happy that Curt Schilling was voted as the most hated player amongst his peers. I believe it was SI who did the poll, or it might have been the Sporting News.

  177. BigBlueAL says:

    Giambi blew it in the 7th

  178. Jamal G. says:

    The Yankees are weird, ever since April 4th they’ve Lost 2, Won 2, Lost 2, Won 2, Lost 2, Won 3, Lost 3, Won 3 and just lost tonight.

  179. Manimal says:


  180. eddy b says:

    tough loss i think. i question the 0-2 pitch with molina set up way outside. what does that pitch set up?

  181. Travis G. says:

    that 1-2 fastball to quentin in the 9th should’ve been strike 3. he hit a double later in the ab (and then scored). despite that, joba was not good in his 2nd inning. 2 hits and 1 warning track fly.

    posada’s gdp didn’t help, neither did giambi in the 7th, and neither did the rain delay that killed Hughes’ outing. a lot went against us tonight.

  182. BigBlueAL says:

    fuckin Michael Kay jinxed it when he said they maybe should be thinkin of intentionally walkin Crede

  183. RustyJohn says:

    Dude, it is like Ivan Drago getting cut in Rocky 4- “He’s not a machine, he’s a man!”

  184. It'sMeSNITCHES!!! says:

    1st base was open, Crede should have been walked.

  185. BigBlueAL says:

    Pettitte better go 8 tomorrow and take the game straight to Mo considerin how taxed our bullpen will be

  186. BigBlueAL says:

    i wouldnt be shocked to see Ohlie get sent down for a fresh arm, if not Moeller

  187. Jamal G. says:

    121 pitches in 6.1 innings on Tim Lincecum’s not yet 24, 5’11″ 170lb. frame. What is Bruce Bochy thinking?

  188. BigBlueAL says:

    i get nostalgic thinkin of the 1998 bullpen. 2 lefties who u know actually got lefties out (Stanton and Lloyd) a nasty RHP (Nelson) and the best long man around (Mendoza) not to mention of course Mo closin. now its just Joba and Mo and HOPE for good outings from the rest, freakin frustratin. of course, back then we had 4 really, really, really good starters who would actually pitch 7 innings regularly, and even the Fat Toad (Irabu) would give us a great outing here and there. aaaah my teenage years, those were the good ol’ days :)

    • Jamal G. says:

      “…really good starters who would actually pitch 7 innings regularly…” And that my good Yankee friend is why Joba Chamberlain needs to be in the rotation. People seem to disregard the notion that starting pitching improves a bullpen. It really helps the bullpen if they do not have to pitch 4-5 innings 60% of the time through a rotation order.

      • BigBlueAL says:

        i agree, BUT the problem is, the rest of the bullpen is so suspect, they cant in good conscience move him into the rotation THIS season. but definately, for the 2009 season 100% agreed he should be a starter, im on board with that totally. BUT movin him into the rotation in the middle of this season i think is RIDICULOUS. u gonna send Joba to AAA for a month, when in reality to build up his innings ur gonna need MORE than a month for him to get 5 to 6 starts at the minimum, and then u have to move someone out of the rotation, and hopefully by then nobody in the rotation will be struggling. but mainly, the bullpen CANT excel w/o Joba THIS season, period.

        • Jamal G. says:

          “…they cant in good conscience move him into the rotation THIS season. but definately, for the 2009 season 100% agreed he should be a starter…” That is quite impossible. He has a cap of presumably 150 innings this year which would allow him to go 180 innings in 2009 and be fully unleashed (I drool at the thought) in 2010 when he will be prepared to go 200+ innings. If he is limited to the bullpen this season he will accumulate anywhere near 150 innings thus stunting his development as a starting pitcher. If he pitches 100 innings (basically irresponsibly abused) out of the bullpen this season after pitching 116+ innings last season, he will be in the same boat and be capped in that 140-150 innings range in 2009.

          There is no way a pitcher can be in the rotation for a full six month season with his innings cap in the 140-150 range. It’s mathematically impossible.

          • BigBlueAL says:

            i didnt mean because of overabusing him, i mean because for this season his best role is CLEARLY in the bullpen, and when u read all the comments from most of the players, if he gets moved from the bullpen for no reason (no injuries, no real spot in the rotation thanks hopefully to Moose, Phil and Ian pitchin well from here on out) there might be alot of resentment of the players. Joel Sherman has written about this in the Post, and he said what i feel, if u were gonna have him as a starter, do it from beginnin of season, not durin the middle of it UNLESS injuries/ineffectiveness from the rotation necessitates it. and unfortunately, the horrible pitching from most of the rest of the bullpen minus Bruney is reason to keep Joba in the pen.

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  189. Jamal G. says:

    Wow, BBTN was great tonight. Orestes Estrada brought up jayson Wrth’s mother again and he said “It’s a nice moment for the family, I wish I could see more of them [her] again”. Lmao.

  190. Travis G. says:

    on the bright side, perhaps farnsworth will go on the DL.

    as for walking Crede, i understand not doing it. if ramirez doesnt GIDP, then joba has to face good hitters in nick swisher or cabrera.

  191. Manimal says:

    Turning point was letting Ohlendorf cough up 5 runs.

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