Game 63: Bringin’ the Heat


Man, it sure is a scorcher today. The little weather thing on my desktop says it’s currently 104-degrees in the city, meaning it’s about 120 out in the sun glazed tier seats, where Ben finds himself today. Lucky for him, he gets to see a primo pitching matchup.

Zack Greinke is just the kind of pitcher than can shut the Yanks down, a guy that changes speeds like a veteran and can hump it up to 96 if he needs it. Hopefully Joba is over his first start jitters, and can command his fastball enough to economize those 75-80 pitches he’ll be limited to. The Royals come into the game sporting a .312 team OBP, so hopefully they help get themselves out here and there.

Are you ready for some fist pumps?

1. Mr. 6 for 6, DH
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Bobby Abreu, RF
4. A-Rod, 3B
5. Matsui, LF
6. Giambi, 1B
7. Posada, C – two consecutive games in this heat coming back from an injury? What is Girardi thinking? What’s the point of carrying three catchers then?
8. Cano, 2B
9. Cabrera, CF

And on the mound, the Winnebago Wonder, Joba Chamberlain.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. E-ROC says:

    Mike, you asked in another game thread about making a Cano for Greinke trade. Would u still make that trade after the Yanks kick Greinke’s arse today?

  2. JCinDC says:

    We have our own Greinke now!

  3. Mike A. says:

    2 pitches, 1 out. It’s … it’s … beautiful.

  4. Jamal G. says:

    This ump definitely has a better zone.

  5. Mike A. says:

    Bah. Broken bat blooper. What can you do.

  6. Joey says:

    I love this first pitch swinging. They get lessons from Robbie?

  7. Mike A. says:

    A starter that can throw a fastball by a hitter. What a concept.

    • E-ROC says:

      No, we need to save that fastball for the 8th inning because that inning is very important to the outcome of tha game.

      • Manimal says:

        The first six or so innings sets the tone for the eighth inning. Joba definitely sets the tone when he pitches.

  8. Manimal says:

    I like how joba paces himself today, 96 mph to get the first 2 strikes then 98 to blow them away. I think Jorge has alot to do with it, he knows how to work talent.

  9. Manimal says:


  10. Jamal G. says:

    Check the NY Times’ “Bats” blog, it has a Q&A with Austin Jackson, a look at the Yankees’ Minor League games on Friday night, a profile on the Tampa Bay Rays’ recent 1st RD. picks from Rice University, a look back at Jason Giambi’s walk-off HR on Thursday afternoon and Jack Curry’s take on Manny Ramirez’s bitch-slap.

  11. Piquay says:

    Mike, gotta disagree with you there. The strength of this organization is our pitching. There is no way I would trade our ONLY young all-star caliber position player.

    I know he doesn’t have the greatest start to the season, but let’s not forget, this is a VERY good player so far in his career.

  12. E-ROC says:

    Damn, Greinke got Damon on three pitches.

  13. mehmattski says:

    I’m a fan of the first-pitch curveball Joba threw to Guillen. Outside the box, me like.

  14. Joey says:

    Damon 0′fer 6 today?

  15. Jamal G. says:

    I’m sitting in the RF upper deck next time I go to Yankee Stadium, that’s the third time in four games.

  16. Manimal says:

    10$ says that Joba knocks a royal off their feet.

  17. Jamal G. says:

    Mike, I’m one of the biggest Zack Greinke fans there are and I agree in principle you always try to acquire front-line pitchers 25 and under but I am very, very hesitant to trade slugging players 25 and under who play an up-the-middle position (C, SS, 2B, CF).

    • Piquay says:

      Especially one who has shown to have a high ceiling, and could potentially bat in the middle of the order in a couple of years. That type of 2B is very very hard to find.

      Let’s not forget that Cano plays a VERY good 2B. He’s not one of those “second basemen” that should really be in the outfield somewhere, like Sori.

    • Manimal says:

      A-Gonz would be a good fit in kansas city, he would easily take up that SS position over Pena jr. with just as good defense and much better hitting ability and would mix in well with all the speed on that team.

      • Piquay says:

        I see Gonzo as our future utility man. Betemit is a bench bat, but can’t play 2B or SS worth crap.

  18. doty says:

    el coma du cei!

  19. Mike A. says:

    Ho-Chaver. Not Ho-Shaver or Ho-Cuh-Var. It’s not that hard Michael Kay.

  20. Mike A. says:

    How in the world did Gload hit that pitch into right? It was practically in the other batter’s box!

  21. Casper says:

    Aviles’ stance is hysterical. He looks like a player in that old Nintendo game “Bases Loaded.”

  22. Chip says:

    Come on Posada, he was almost out of it!

  23. Joey says:

    its been almost 48 hours and Giambi still hasn’t swung at that pitch

  24. Mike A. says:

    This Chamberlain kid has a chance.

  25. Mike A. says:

    Is there anything on TV more annoying than those Mohegan Sun commercials?

  26. mehmattski says:

    Gordon’s hit was really the only good contact against Joba so far, and he’s missing a ton of bats. Great stuff.

  27. MD says:

    for those of you who appreciate Yankee history….Chamberlain = Allie Reynolds……

    • mehmattski says:

      I think Joba’s going to have a much better K/9 IP than Reynolds (1423 Ks in 2492 innings)…

      • MD says:

        different era….back in early fifties, successful pitchers could walk as many as they struck out…..remember this is the time of Dimag and Berra…..check out their K rates……most sluggers put the wood on the ball….consequently, K rates far down in that time, aside from the early Bob Feller……..

  28. Mike A. says:

    Joey Gathright is some kind of athlete, I’ll tell ya.

  29. Mike A. says:

    Melky is slugging .295 in his last 29 games.


  30. Randy says:

    i understand why its happening, but the constant updates of joba’s pitch count is a little annoying.

  31. Chip says:

    I hate Jose Guillen

  32. Mike A. says:

    That was a hanger and a half.

  33. mehmattski says:

    Joba never would have thrown that slider in the 8th inning….

  34. E-ROC says:

    Since when did Jose Guillen start hitting righties?!

  35. pete says:

    shut UP jose guillen. douche

  36. mehmattski says:

    That fastball has lost a lot of velocity this inning.

    One more inning, with a short leash. Progress, at least.

    • Piquay says:


      The last few fastballs he threw in this inning registered as:


      That’s losing velocity?

    • JT says:

      Gameday says he’s still in upper 90s with his fastball. That as just a dead hanger. I think he was scared to walk guillen so threw a slider that was a strike.

    • Chip says:

      He’s fine, he just hung one, it happens. I’d say he lasts another inning and a third

  37. batty says:

    Is anyone listening on the radio? All of a sudden can’t get 880 or 1430. Related is there a good AM receiver out there so I don’t have to keep fucking with the antennae every time a truck goes by?

  38. E-ROC says:

    Greinke may have found his groove.

    • Chip says:

      Yeah I’m finding that the Royals actually have some decent pitching. Thank goodness they’ll never keep it all together

  39. Jamal G. says:

    They say his brother Luke is a great athlete as well.

  40. Chip says:

    Well if we can keep it close, we own their pen :)

  41. Mike A. says:

    Giambi flashing some range. ;)

  42. Jamal G. says:

    Good job getting that 1-pitch out.

  43. Mike A. says:

    Yeah, he belongs in the bullpen.

  44. Chip says:

    There we go! 9 pitch inning and he should be able to go 5 now

  45. Chip says:

    Man Greinke has it working today, he’s just nailing the corners with all of his pitches

  46. Mike A. says:

    Greinke’s dealin’

  47. Piquay says:

    I wonder if they’ll let Joba go past 80..

    • Chip says:

      If he’s still got the stuff, I’d let him at least close the 5th but it won’t happen and that’s why I’m not a MLB manager

    • Joey says:

      it doesn’t look like he’s tiring but I doubt Girardi will let him go past 75ish if he scheduled to throw 65-70

  48. Jamal G. says:

    Chipper Jones to “miss a couple games” due to a slight tear in his right quad. Jones is currently at a .420 Batting Average.


  49. Manimal says:

    Since when was Guillen a yankee killer.

  50. Chip says:

    Come on David, make a quick out

  51. LiveFromNewYork says:

    David Cone (thinking): Michael Kay shut the F up about the pitch count.

  52. Chip says:

    Wow, that’s about the 4th time I’ve seen him throw the curve for strike one. And back to back changes? You know he wants to stay in

  53. Jamal G. says:

    LoL, Jorge Posada doesn’t back down. He calls for the Slider, Joba shakes him off and he calls for the Slider two more times.

    • Piquay says:

      How can you tell what Posada was calling?

      • Jamal G. says:

        I love those CURE Auto Insurance commercials.His fingers, not too hard to tell when a runner is not on second. 1-finger is the Fastball, 2-fingers is the Curveball, 3-fingers is the Slider, 4-fingers that wiggle is the Changeup, 1-finger that you move in a circular motion is the Sinker, Cut-Fastball. It is universal, we use that in High School baseball as well.

      • Jamal G. says:

        The Big Cat is loose!

        Dan Giese has some serious movement on that Two-Seamer.

    • Joey says:

      waiting for Jorge to get pissed off enough to go out there and tell Joba “if you shake me off one more time I’m gonna slap you”

    • Joey says:

      earlier in the game Joba kept shaking him off and he went out to the mound and had a talk

  54. Manimal says:

    Is that some winnebago necklace, Its cooler than the redsox and they gay beads.

  55. Chip says:

    Well that’s not that way he wanted to end his day

  56. JT says:

    The media makes so much out of this pitch count bs, that I’m sure it affects how Joba is attacking the hitters.

  57. Mike A. says:

    Too bad he couldn’t get through the 5th. Can’t complain about this outing at all, made one bad pitch.

  58. Jamal G. says:

    I love thos CURE Auto Insurance commercials.

  59. bostonsucks@life says:

    Pitch count be damned he could have finished that inning

  60. Mike A. says:

    “Some companies think education and credit score have something to do with car insurance. (Bleep) them. What, I can say (bleep)?”

    That is my new favorite commercial.

  61. Manimal says:

    HAHA the first base coach for Kansas city has the last name “Kuntz”

  62. Mike A. says:

    There’s two outs, worry about the hitter.

  63. Mike A. says:

    Fall down range. Love it.

  64. Mike A. says:

    Bold prediction: Dan Giese will become the new Scott Proctor.

  65. Jamal G. says:

    Hey! Hey! Johnny Be Good!

  66. Jamal G. says:

    Saaaahhhhwiiiiiiiiing and a miss.

  67. Mike A. says:

    Wow. 68 mph bender after a 96 mph heater? Not fair.

  68. E-ROC says:

    Wow, a 68 mph curveball after seeing all those pitches.

  69. b/c says:

    Wow has Grienke got a bender or what

  70. Manimal says:

    Im pissed jeter didnt even run to first, is he that old?

  71. Jamal G. says:

    Did YES or anybody else give a measurement on A-Rod’s shot yesterday?

    • Manimal says:

      I was wondering the same thing. I also want to know abreu’s today, and Giambi’s 2 up in the upper deck

  72. Manimal says:

    Gathright has got some skill in center field.

  73. Jamal G. says:

    Who the fuck does he think he is? Andruw Jones…circa 2000?

    CURE Auto Insurance owns.

  74. Joey says:

    damn Gathright is sick

  75. Joey says:

    shoulder popped out… ouch

  76. Jamal G. says:

    Great pitching duel in Fenway Park, Erik Bedard against Justin Masterson. Masterson’s Sinker seems to be a bit slow today, topping out at 90-91MPH. I thought he can run it up to 92-93MPH.

    • Mike A. says:

      Kam Mickolio, one of the guys sent to the O’s in the Bedard deal, has the exact same scouting report as Masterson: 92-94 sinker, good slider but needs improvement, funky borderline sidearm delivery. Mickolio’s about 3 inches taller, and he’s a year older, but it goes to show how two extremely similar pitchers get hyped differently because of their markets.

  77. E-ROC says:

    LMAO, Hanley Ramirez is abusing the Reds right now. Just hit his second 2-run homerun.

  78. Jamal G. says:

    David Cone is the man. He knows damn well he likes the Latinas.

  79. JT says:

    posada needs to be skewered for that…

    • Joey says:

      agreed, just takin his time jogging back there, but at least the next AB was an easy popup in fould territory (okay, well with A-Rod no popup is easy…)

  80. Jamal G. says:

    I want pain inflicted on that man. I’m so serious.

  81. E-ROC says:

    Dan Giese just throws strikes and mixes his pitches really well. Me like.

  82. JT says:

    I wouldnt mind melky’s lack of production if he played cf like gathwright…

  83. Jamal G. says:

    Some dude just bust his ass so bad, I need a replay.

  84. Jamal G. says:

    Thank you Giambi, one for the Bleacher Creatures!

  85. E-ROC says:

    We need to exercise Giambi’s option as he just hit another homerun.

  86. Joey says:

    Giambi is the fuckin man right now

  87. Jamal G. says:

    Fuck my Justin Morneau pick for AL All-Star 1B. The Giambino!

  88. LiveFromNewYork says:

    I think the Chamberlain / Giese combo is a good one. Is Giese willing to be a 7th/8th inning guy? Joba/Deeg/Mo sounds good to me.

    I don’t know why the Snoop Dogg / Willie Nelson friendship is “unlikely.” It’s all about the weed.

  89. Jamal G. says:

    Robbie Cano has sure been real patiently lately.

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      someone said something to him. Like “do it again and I’ll f you up.”

    • Chip says:

      Yeah I don’t remember the last time he waited 5 pitches to swing. I’m not even upset about him grounding into a double play if he watches 8 pitches

  90. Jamal G. says:

    Ken Griffey Jr. will be up in the Top of the 8th inning, so keep an eye on that. MLB.com has the free, live look-in.

  91. Mike A. says:

    Is Jose Veras getting ready for some 8th inning work?

  92. Jamal G. says:

    I’m assuming Kyle farsworth has been knocked a peg or two down the bullpen order, ah wells.

  93. Chip says:

    I’m convined, let’s just let Giese pitch out the rest of this game and give the pen a rest

  94. Joey says:

    Buster Posey with his 2nd HR of the day. 1 word: beast

  95. JT says:

    that was close. ok let’s stay away from him. he has no opposite field power.

  96. Jamal G. says:


    Isn’t that the second HR David DeJesus has just missed in this series?

  97. Mike A. says:

    Dan Giese in the hizzy.

  98. Chip says:

    I really hope they don’t pull him for the 8th, the guy hasn’t allowed a runner yet other than via strikeout

  99. Manimal says:

    I was there in 99′ also!

  100. Jamal G. says:

    Johnny Damon does have a shot to have a 20/20 season.

  101. Manimal says:

    It seems like all they hype about Hughes and IPK have been over shadowed by these other pitchers called up that weren’t as expected.

    • Chip says:

      I agree, Veras, Edwar, Giese and Rasner have been huge! Maybe that’s a good thing though, it does take the pressure off

      • Manimal says:

        Then again, now theres nowhere to put Hughes and IPK when they become healthy again.

        • Joey says:

          IPK to AAA Phil stays, send Britton down, he serves no purpose. Who should leave the rotation once Phil gets back? I have no clue

  102. Jamal G. says:

    Josh Hamilton in the HR Derby at Yankee Stadium? Oh boy!

  103. Mike A. says:

    No one’s going to hit one out of the Stadium during the Derby. How many guys could realistically do that? Dunn, Howard, that’s it really.

    Maybe someone clanks one off the video screen or something, but not out of the Stadium.

    • Chip says:


    • Jamal G. says:

      I don’t know man, Dunn and Howard have hit some majestic beauties in their respective careers. They could yank one out in RF, hopefully.

    • Manimal says:

      No one will even get close, Mantle was the closest but I don’t think it will ever happen. Maybe in the new yankee stadium but I dont remember what the stands look like beyond the outfield

      • Chip says:

        I don’t think it’ll ever happen during a batting practice or home run derby. You need either a good fastball or a lot of spin (like a curve) to get that distance. You don’t get that extra energy you need when a guy is just lobbing them into you

  104. LiveFromNewYork says:

    When did Johnny start with the high socks? Maybe that’s helping him. Channeling the Babe.

  105. Mike A. says:

    Kay is turning into Sterling with the almost HR calls.

  106. Jamal G. says:

    Two things, how in the fuck did that not get out and I can’t blame A-Rod for being tagged out, everyone thought that was out of here.

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      It should have been gone. It missed by about an inch. I don’t blame him for being tagged out. He got 2 runs in.

  107. Chip says:

    A-Rod is the man. Maybe now we can let Giese pitch for at least another inning with a 3 run lead

  108. Joey says:

    if Girardi does leave Giese in now I don’t know if he ever will…

  109. JT says:

    Michelle Kay needs to shut the f up. Good job by cone putting him into place.
    Im sure Kay wants the yankees to lose by a run so he can come back and say i told you so.

  110. Jamal G. says:

    LoL, the baseball Gods took that HR away from A-rod because the Yankees were already ahead so they rendered it meaningless before the NY media could by not even making it a HR.

  111. doty says:

    woh michael gay?

  112. JT says:

    That’s a good point. When in doubt, you can always turn to the baseball gods for an answer.

  113. Jamal G. says:

    You know what’s really cool, playing the ’27 Yankees and the ’98 Yankees head-to-head on whatifsports.com.

  114. Casper says:

    I’ve never cared about All-Star voting… But is it time to start a campaign to get Damon/Giambi/others elected, since the game is in the Bronx this season? Other cities get their guys elected all the time (for example – ChiSox fans had campaigns to elect Podsednik and Pierzynski).

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      I was just thinking the same thing…some base posts to this effect please. Thank you.

    • Jamal G. says:

      At this point I’d say only Giambi, Damon, Matsu and Posada deserve to go. Posada because no Catcher in the AL is having any kind of good year. Mike Napoli has 10 HRs but can’t make contact consistently (what’s new?) and Jason Varitek has 6HRs, but fuck him.

      A-Rod, Jeter and Rivera will get in no doubt. I want Mussina to get in but he might get embarrassed pitching against the NL lineup, it might get real ugly.

      • Casper says:

        It’s a big “if,” but if Giambi stays healthy and keeps hitting, he should go to the ASG over Youk. I don’t know where the voting stands, but Yankees fans have to start filling the ballot boxes for Giambi.

  115. LiveFromNewYork says:

    I don’t know how Cone tolerates Kay. He’s so good-humored in that mid Western way. He never gets snarky but lets Kay know he’s an idiot. But Kay is too much of an idiot to pick up on the subtlety.

  116. Jamal G. says:

    “Pretty much nothing except three strikeouts…” I didn’t realize strikeouts were a negative on a pitcher’s line Mr. Cone. :)

  117. Mike A. says:

    Good to see Girardi was compelled to remove Giese from the game. That’s what you want your manager to do, remove pitchers that are pitching effectively because they have to follow the cookbook.

  118. Brian says:

    If Giese is taking Karstens’ opportunity to shadow Joba here, and even if Joba is up around 90 next outing, safe to say Giese is easing in at this point into the “long man” role for the short term? with Ohlendorf re-re-converting to a 1-2 IP per?
    I’d hate to see Giese have a semi-bad outing and Karstens get plugged in there.

    And with the third catcher, anybody have an idea how it’ll play?

    • Jamal G. says:

      I don’t think they will keep a third Catcher on this roster past this week.

      • JT says:

        Can we also send shelly duncan down while we’re at it? I pretty much think the whole league has figured out this one trick pony.

    • Chip says:

      Once Posada proves he’s healthy, aka throws out a few runners, they’ll DFA Moehler who I think has proved enough to get picked up by another team. If Giese gets sent down, they’ll be an uproar the way he’s pitched. Unfortunately, I think we may see another Brittongate moment

  119. JT says:

    I would of liked to see Giese back out there for another inning, but apart of me wants to see what Veras can do on back to back days. I wonder if Veras is going to be the next new temporary 8th inning guy.

  120. Joey says:

    Buster just missing his third homer to warning track straight out center field

  121. Mike A. says:

    A streamer of milk?

  122. RustyJohn says:

    Girardi is turning into Joe T. Is Veras his Proctor?

  123. Joey says:

    wtf, since when has nancy drew hit for boston?

  124. RustyJohn says:

    2009 Yankee rotation- Wang, Joba, Hughes, Rasner, Giese? lol

  125. RustyJohn says:

    When has Nancy Drew hit, per, other than at Florida State?

  126. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Again Cone quietly makes Michael Kay seem like a complete and utter idiot.

  127. Joey says:

    why is kay so dumb?

  128. Chip says:

    It’s so comforting to see Rivera come out of the pen. Can you imagine if we hadn’t resigned him? Hopefully he can prevent Melancon from taking his job for the next 4 years

  129. Mike A. says:

    Mo’s ERA+ went from 1185 to 619 yesterday. Cut him.

    • Chip says:

      Yeah he’ll have to pitch twice as many innings without allowing another run to get that back. He’s obviously done

  130. Jamal G. says:

    Bullpen success sans-Joba?!?!?!?! Shenanigans!!!11!!!11!

  131. LiveFromNewYork says:

    I hope they keep Giese around. They’d be crazy not to but they do a lot of crazy things I can’t fathom.

  132. Joey says:

    its nice having Posada back

  133. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Profantasybaseball preview of closers said about Mo “The veteran has lost a lot of his magic.”

    To which Mo says, “Magic this.”


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