Game 82: Hahaha, nice one Girardi


1. Damon, LF
2. Jeter, SS
3. A-Rod, 3B
4. Posada, 1B
5. Betemit, 2B
6. Melky, CF
7. Molina, C
8. Christian, RF
9. Rasner, SP

Okay, so where’s the real lineup Joe?

So wait, that’s really it? Let me get this straight: you’re sitting three very good lefty batters in Abreu, Giambi and a surging Robbie Cano against a mediocre southpaw in Oliver Perez, but you started them against a premium lefty in Johan Santana yesterday after they played 3 games in 3 different stadiums in a span of 48 hours. Okay cool, that makes sense.

Wait, no it doesn’t. Whatever, let’s hope Perez has one of those games.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. whozat says:

    Well…wouldn’t you want your A lineup against their A pitcher? Besides…Perez’s platoon split is WAY bigger than Santana’s. Perez has been much harder on lefties.

  2. whozat says:

    Though…that is a HEINOUS defensive right side of the infield.

  3. Ivan says:

    Oliver Perez has given the Yankee hitters fits since he became a met. Another reason why he sit his lefties is that Perez is tougher on lefties than Santana.

    I too would of sit some lefties out, like a Giambi or Cano . Personally I wouldn’t sit Abreu because he works counts and a pitcher like Perez can certainly throw alot of pitches.

    I understand the descion here by Joe here. I don’t mind it.

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      Except Bobby is 0-10 with 4 walks lifetime against Perez.

      • Ivan says:

        Well put it this way, I will sit two lefties but not all three.

      • Steve says:

        This is an argument to PLAY Abreu?

        The walks are a function of Perez being wild, everyone draws walks off him when he loses the strike zone. The fact that he’s 0-10 is much more telling of how comfortable he is facing him.

        • Moshe Mandel says:

          No, it is an argument to sit him. The person I was responding to sais he would have played Abreu. Personally, I like the decision. Cano is in a groove, but you dont want him to come up against a tough lefty and lose that, Giambi had a tough day yesterday, and Bobby cant hit Perez.

    • Chucky says:

      Gotta tell you I don’t like the idea of sitting Robby right now. Looks like his bat was finally coming around, Joe should have kept him in the lineup!

  4. marc ack says:

    1st girardi keeps showing faith in farnsworthless, now look at todays lineup !?! Hope Hank fires him today!

  5. Ben C says:

    im not gonna lie.. i think cone is money in the tv booth

  6. Steve says:

    I like sitting all 3.

    Giambi has always had trouble against hard throwing lefties.

    Cano is just breaking out his slump, the last thing he needs is a tough lefty to screw him up again.

    Abreu has yet to get a hit off Perez.

    And as was mentioned earlier, Perez’s splits are pretty stark.
    vs Lefties .167 BA .295 OBP .333 SLG .628 OPS
    vs Righties .281 BA .394 OBP .459 SLG .853 OPS


  7. Steve says:

    Oh, and one more reason to like this lineup. We have one HELL of a bench today. I have a feeling we’ll be using it by the 5th inning.

  8. Manimal says:

    Shit why is rasner so suckish now.

  9. Ben K. says:

    The better question, Manimal, is “how was Rasner so good in May?” This is far less of a surprise than what we he did during his first four starts last month.

    • Manimal says:

      seriously. Michael Kay just said something about his cutter being flat. If thats the case send him down for a couple of starts to work on it.

  10. Manimal says:

    I’m starting to think maybe the whole yankee team should tape their pinky and ring finger together. It works for Farnsworth…

  11. Mike A. says:

    Sorry for the technical issues folks, all should be well now.

  12. Manimal says:

    Well, he got out of it somehow.

  13. Mike A. says:

    Wilson Betemit has a 66 OPS+ for his career vs LHP.

  14. Manimal says:

    Wow the yankees are making him look like cy young.

  15. Jamal G. says:

    Just when the Detroit Tigers were starting to get hot they get some bad news, Magglio Ordonez is going to the 15-Day DL. Over/Under at five games under .500 when he returns? I’d say over, their pitching is just horrid and now they have even less of an offense to bludgeon a team with.


  16. Jamal G. says:

    Oliver Perez hit 96-MPH in this AB to Melky Cabrera, yeah, this is not looking fun.

  17. Captain Wiley says:

    Horne didn’t make it through the first. Hopefully Mr Jennings will tell us shortly that it was just a bad outing.

  18. Ivan says:

    Lets go Rass

  19. Mike A. says:

    Kay: “Then the rains came. For a while it looked like they were going to pair up animals in Pittsburgh”

    30 seconds of silence

    Singleton: “Heh”

  20. Ivan says:

    I can live with Rasner walking Reyes and getting to Castillo.

  21. Newman says:

    Are we really already committing Rasner to a start against Boston? I guess there’s literally no one else that can start – Karstens? Ugh

  22. Ivan says:

    Please Rass don’t walk Castillo

  23. Mike A. says:

    Well that ball wasn’t exactly tattooed. Nice range by Jeter though.

  24. Manimal says:

    betemit is an idiot, what the hell is jeter doing fielding a ball on the right side of the infield.

  25. Ivan says:

    The only way Castillo gets hits

  26. Newman says:

    Anyone else notice the Snigh broadcast is a full pitch ahead of the YES?

  27. Mike A. says:

    Nice job limiting the damage. Let’s try to actually get a baserunner against Perez now.

  28. Manimal says:

    rasner needs to sit in a video room and see what is happening. What is different from his first couple of starts and now.

    • Newman says:

      It’s easy, the league has caught up to him combined with the fact that he’s not good. You don’t need to go to the video room, that’s the answer

  29. Yankeejim says:

    Am I the only one that wants them to get Sidney Ponson away from Chamberlain?

  30. Mike A. says:

    25 strikes, 9 balls for Perez? Oof.

  31. Jamal G. says:

    Brett Gardner was out by a step on a chopper to the third basemen…he was playing on the grass.

  32. ansky says:

    this is the same perez mets fans see every five days right?
    cuz i could have sworn he was posting a 6+ ERA

    • Jamal G. says:

      No, he is very inconsistent. He has games like this then follows them up with games like he had vs. the M’s. That’s the reason why Mets fans hate him so much.

  33. E-ROC says:

    This dope is no-hitting the Yankees.

  34. Mike A. says:

    You know, before the season started I predicted that Oliver Perez would throw the first no-hitter in Mets’ history this year. I figured it would be one of those 9 IP, 0 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 8 BB, 9 K jobs.

  35. Jamal G. says:

    Guess we can’t be too mad about that Tuesday loss to Tom Gorzelanny, he’s pulling that same Houdini shit in the first two innings against Tampa Bay.

  36. Newman says:

    Nice pitch Ras

  37. Ivan says:

    Smart pithing by Rasner. Delgado cannot handle pitches inside. I mean go away from him. attack inside.

  38. Joe says:

    FRom the the Ohhhhhh Shhhhiiitttit department Alan Horne left after 2/3 innings, he gave up 3 walks and a hit, but it looks like an injury

  39. Jamal G. says:

    It seems this strike-zone hasn’t gotten any wider from yesterday.

  40. Mike A. says:

    Looks like we might get a little D-Rob action today.

  41. E-ROC says:

    One of the best things about the NL is pitching against the pitcher.

  42. E-ROC says:

    Perez to Damon: OWNED!

  43. Mike A. says:

    Here we go, the wheels are coming off…

  44. ansky says:

    lets jump on this, make him sweat.

  45. Jamal G. says:

    Right in the Danilo Gallinari!

  46. E-ROC says:

    Sweet God, why couldn’t that be fair?!!!!!!!!

  47. Ben C says:

    pouring in hoboken again — lost the directv signal AGAIN

  48. BigBlueAL says:

    Man TBS showed the sky over Shea, it looks like its gonna fuckin pour huh…

  49. Newman says:

    We could use a long rain delay here. Get Olly out of the game and then put an actual lineup together

  50. BigBlueAL says:

    Dont know if anyone here gives a shit but Germany-Spain about to start….

  51. Jamal G. says:

    Are they really going to play through this?

  52. Mike A. says:

    WTF, it’s not raining at all here at the top of the island.

  53. Jamal G. says:

    Darrell Rasner is doing just enough, the mistake pitch to Carlos Delgado is the only thing you can really get too hung up over.

  54. Mike A. says:

    Yeah, so I just went thru the gamelogs of Keith Hernandez’s first 6 seasons in the bigs, he never had a 4 strikeout game, let alone one against Tom Seaver as a 20 year old where the final K came on a 3-2 curveball with the bases loaded.

    Say no to drugs kids.

  55. E-ROC says:

    how long has Betemit been wearing glasses?

  56. BigBlueAL says:

    Was curious what you guys think but when do you think IPK will be back in the Yankees rotation?? Ive been one who has ripped him alot this season but it is pretty obvious there is no real reason to keep him in the minors much longer (once he is fully healthy and stretched back out) since he really does dominate minor league hitters. Considering Rasner and Ponson are in the rotation now even I would rather have IPK starting and hoping he bounces back and at least pitches decent the rest of the way for the Yankees. Of course if he comes back up and continues to suck……

    • Mike A. says:

      I’d say August. Of course they might make a trade for a starter by then.

      • BigBlueAL says:

        Might?? More like they better make a trade for a starter by then. Whatever the case believe it or not I am looking forward to seeing IPK back in the roation and hoping he does pitch better at the least.

  57. Mike A. says:

    It’s a good thing Girardi started all the lesser players against Perez today, it’s working out well.

  58. Jamal G. says:

    Wow, where has the professionalism gone in broadcasting? Gary Cohen said how Roger Clemens though it was the ball when they were talking about when Clemens threw the broken bat at Mike Piazza. This is what followed:

    Keith Hernandez: “Well, was he under oath?”
    Gary Cohen: “Does it matter?”


    Honestly, what the fuck was that about?

  59. Mike A. says:

    Hah, some dude just took as ass to the face on that last foul ball down the RF line.

  60. Jamal G. says:

    LoL, being a Catcher sucks.

  61. BigBlueAL says:

    Oh man, the TBS announcers (Chip Caray, Ron Darling) are debating the Joba switch now and naturally both are saying he shouldve stayed in the bullpen.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Details please, idiocy entertains me.

      • BigBlueAL says:

        Well the rest of the season Joba will start maybe 22 times (which is of course alot more than he will start) but as a reliever he could pitch 45 to 50 times and therefore have a greater impact. Ron Darling did say towards the end of the debate that the Yankees did bring him up through the minors as a starter and have always envisioned him as a #1 type starter, but then both said if that was the case he shouldve began the season as a starter and not a reliever. Same old Same old….

      • E-ROC says:

        Dominates the 8th inning.
        Don’t have to worry about the 8th inning with Joba back there.
        It’s tough to find 8th inning guys who that dominate.
        If the Yanks wanted him to be a starter, why didn’t the Yanks make him a starter at the beginning of the season.

        I think there are some others but don’t remember.

    • Ivan says:

      Why can’t they just give up.

    • Mike A. says:

      Well, as a starter he’s only a 6, 6+ inning pitcher, so maybe they have a point.

  62. Mike A. says:

    Hah! Nice job by Elias calling out Keith Hernandez on his 4 K thing.

  63. Jamal G. says:

    It must be a scary moment for Keith Hernandez when he was just outed on TV of vividly remembering something that never occurred.

  64. Mike A. says:

    Ras settling down.

  65. Jamal G. says:

    David Robertson due to pitch in the bottom of the sixth!

  66. Jamal G. says:

    Lmao, SNY just showed a shot of the YES announcers and Michael Kay looks pissed as hell.

  67. Ben C says:


  68. Newman says:

    Thought that was gone

  69. Mike A. says:

    Wow, how is Damon not on second?

  70. E-ROC says:

    Why couldn’t Shea Stadium be like Yankee stadium? Moeller’s fly ball out would’ve been a a homerun.

  71. Ivan says:

    Well that out tells us were not gonna win this game.

    PS: is a play that is more overrated than the Endy chavez catch. You guys lost the fucking game.

    • Jamal G. says:

      I think it just speaks volume of the organization, it is talked about like the greatest play in October history for the Mets and yet they lost the game.

    • Newman says:

      I don’t know how you can possibly say that the catch itself is overrated. That was one of the best plays I’ve ever seen easily, especially given the situation. Just bc the Mets lost that game doesn’t mean that play wasn’t unbelievably amazing

    • Mike A. says:

      On a HR by Yadier Molina and his 74 career OPS+.

  72. Mike A. says:

    Even with 2 outs, Jeter hits a perfect GIDP ball. Man is this guy consistent, or what?

  73. Jamal G. says:

    Is there anything worse than seeing Michael Bourn up with a runner on second base with one out?

  74. Ivan says:

    Dave’s here.

  75. Jamal G. says:

    Gary Cohen: “He [David Robertson] looks about 14-years-old.”

    That Curveball is going to make Jose Reyes look like he’s 14-years-old. Zing!

  76. Mike A. says:

    Nice job putting Perez on his ass.

  77. Jamal G. says:

    Damn, not even Reggie Miller can flop like that!

    • BigBlueAL says:

      Fuckin Reggie Miller. I remember a play when he was right up on Allan Houston who swung the ball over his head and Miller just collapsed making it seem like he got elbowed in the face. Naturally an offensive foul was called, Houston stood there shocked (but naturally didnt say a word to the ref) and NBC showed a replay and Houston’s elbow was a foot from hitting Miller’s face. Fuckin Reggie Miller….

  78. Mike A. says:

    Goodness, Joba looks like a giant on the mound compared to Robertson.

  79. Mike A. says:

    Command’s not there yet for Robertson. Nerves could certainly be a factor.

  80. Ivan says:

    Robertson Lincecum about the same size.

  81. Jamal G. says:

    Luis Castillo’s swing lacks testosterone.

  82. ansky says:

    getting pretty close to watching Germ/Esp at this point.

  83. Mike A. says:

    Why does Jurassic Park have to be on tonight? I was really really really looking forward to sitting on my ass for 2 hours with the Simpson, King of the Hill, Family Guy and American Dad tonight. Bah.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Go see “Wanted”, better than advertised.

      • Mike A. says:

        I forget the name of the movie we watched last night. Will Ferrell flick, but not his typical “I’m a mentally retarded, yet somehow successful professional athlete” work. Something about him being a character in a book. Dustin Hoffman and Queen Latifah were in it too. Good shit.

  84. Ivan says:

    Not a bad inning for Robertson.

  85. Jamal G. says:

    I’m not watching the game on YES but I bet you Michael Kay said “That’s a Home Run in a missile silo!”

  86. Mike A. says:

    Why is Keith Hernandez saying Justin Timberlake is hot?

  87. huuz says:

    not good, either.

    took 9 pitches to get the pitcher. then fell behind everybody. WP = run scored.

    i’m not giving up, but that wasn’t reassuring…especially since control (meaning BBs) was his problem in the minors (especially AAA). he threw a lot of balls that inning. 15 strikes/10 balls.

  88. Mike A. says:

    Swing hard in case you hit it.

  89. Ivan says:

    Damn That ball was crush by Betemit.

  90. E-ROC says:

    HOLY SHIT!!! Go Betemit!

  91. Newman says:

    Wow that was a bomb

  92. Ivan says:

    Man Delgado suck at first.

  93. Mike A. says:

    Unfortunately, that’s the only way Melky gets to second base these days.

  94. TheLastClown says:

    It is about time!! On the exact 100th pitch, wonderful

    I love to see Betemit do something other than scratch himself with his right handed bat…

  95. BigBlueAL says:

    E-6??? That should be an error on Delgado.

  96. ansky says:

    wow the second i changed from stupid tbsHD to wpix…i mean CW….we get some goodness going. I guess digh def aint worth it now

  97. The Fallen Phoenix says:

    “Hot damn” indeed, A-Rod! Wilson hit that a mile.

    And people wonder why the Yankees carry him as a bench player. How many teams in all of baseball can pull that kind of power of the bench?

  98. Ivan says:

    Molina sure is doing Perez a favor swing at those pitches.

  99. Smitt Dog says:

    Molinas really really bad

  100. Mike A. says:

    Trenton is doing what they do best – pwning the Red Sox’s best prospects.

  101. TheLastClown says:

    Question: Does Girardi PH Abreu leading off the 8th?

    I’m positive he would’ve if Molina gets on, but now?

  102. Jamal G. says:

    Evan Longoria can really play some third base, wow.

  103. Jamal G. says:

    That hammer was sick, made my knees buckle.

  104. Mike A. says:

    Oof. I thought Delgado was going to get rung up on that 0-2 yakker.

  105. Ivan says:

    Robertson gets out the inning. Already he’s better than Hawkins.

  106. Mike A. says:

    Much better inning for Robertson that time around. Church hit a legit single, Chavez slapped a blooper that just so happened to land fair.

  107. huuz says:

    better 2nd inning for Robertson.

    at least he challenged the hitters. much better than nibbling at the corners and falling behind.

  108. Jamal G. says:

    Keith Hernandez with Brian Schneider up: “The Yanks have no LHP in their bullpen (with the smuggest of voice tones possible)”

    4-6-3 Double-play ensues. It is overrated people, when will they realize this?

  109. Ivan says:

    Abreu would probably start the inning off.

  110. Ivan says:

    If Justin gets on, Giambi is up. If not, use Abreu to see if he can get on base.

  111. Jamal G. says:

    I like how Keith Hernandez constantly admits he never pays attention while he’s on-air.

  112. E-ROC says:

    Since when does Giambi swing at the first pitch?

  113. Mike A. says:

    Fuck, not Edwar.

  114. Mike A. says:

    Wow Snigh, thanks for telling me that the Mets’ bullpen has performed much better in wins than it has in losses. I never would have guessed.

    That’s almost as dumb as the time Michael Kay was obsessing over how much lower CMW’s ERA was when there were no runners on base compared to when he had runners on.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Neither of those is as dumb as Tim McCarver being “shocked” that more runs score in an inning that is led off with a HR than a BB. FJM had a great piece on that.

  115. TheLastClown says:

    Edwar’s locating the fastball…ergo the change is making ‘em look stupid

  116. Jamal G. says:

    The Red Sox sure do have a lot of guys with PMS issues. Josh Beckett pounding bats in the dugout just now in conjunction with Kevin Youkilis crying over anything, Dustin Pedroia throwing his bat after being owned by Phil Hughes and Jonathan Papelbon…well, being Jonathan Papelbon.

  117. Ivan says:

    Yanks 1-33 trailing after 8. Isn’t that a useless stat.

  118. Jamal G. says:


  119. ansky says:

    oh boy i love billy. keep chucking em in the dirt, son

  120. Jamal G. says:

    I thought he had that one, fuck.

  121. Mike A. says:

    Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust missed.

  122. Ivan says:

    Just hasn’t been our day.

  123. Mike A. says:

    Steal third Jeter.

  124. ansky says:

    damnit, bad series for Jorge.

  125. Ben C says:


  126. ansky says:


    I guess a split is better than nothing.

  127. BigBlueAL says:

    Yankees score only 1 run and lose 3-1. Didnt see this coming with that lineup the Yankees put out today…..

  128. TheLastClown says:

    Go ‘Stros!

  129. Jamal G. says:

    Did Darrell Rasner pitch well enough to take solace in this outing that he’s on an upswing?

    • TheLastClown says:

      I don’t think so. 5IP 3K 3BB?

      I just think he’s being Darrell Rasner, and if he is on an upswing, we need a new SP

      • christopher says:

        he is a crap pitcher plain and simple – remember that he gave up 3 runs to an NL line-up…have you seen the 3-5 staters on most NL teams that are puting up good numbers?

        Never thought i would miss sheffield’s bat. not only does this team need a stater but they desperatly need an impact righty bat – with jeter hitting like omar vizquel the only guy a lefty need fear is is AROD, but we know our good ol GM wont trade any of the 20 minor league pitchers with trade value because 2 of the 20 may actually help the big league club 5 years from now

        • raymagnetic says:

          How many runs did their crap lineup score on Friday? Rasner is a 4th/5th starter, I’m not exactly sure what you’re expecting from him, but perhaps you should lower your expectations.

  130. TheLastClown says:

    Wesley Wright strikes out Pedroia, or as the Houston announcers just called him, Ty Cobb…

    With the bases loaded in the 6th & a one run lead

    How sweet it is

  131. Jamal G. says:

    ROFLMAO, Dustin Pedroia was talking shit after he struck-out with the bases juiced and the Astros’ Catcher (I think it was Humberto Quintero, but Pedroia looked like he was talking in direction of LHP Wesley Wright) pumped his fist in celebration. That little girl is so adorable with his little temper tantrums.

  132. Lanny says:

    This team will not win anything sending guys like Rasner, Giese, And Ponson out there at the back end.

  133. Brandon says:

    TABATA !!

  134. Jamal G. says:

    Hideki Okajima allows an inherited runner to score…gasp!

  135. A-Point says:

    Perez wasnt’ on his game, Girardi gave hims a win by putting an inferior team on the field.

    Rasner isn’t good either, but Girardi puts grappy lineups out when he doesn’t like certain pitchers. Girardi is more at fault than anyone else though, as he makes up these stupid line ups.

    I can’t wait till Girardi is gone.

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  137. AndrewYF says:

    I really don’t understand Girardi’s thinking on this lineup. Giambi and Cano actually hit lefties better than they hit righties. Isn’t Girardi supposed to be the guy who knows this kind of stuff? I love him, but throwing away this game was just dumb. And playing Betemit over Cano, when Cano has got a nice hot streak going, is really stupid. Nevermind that Betemit was the offense today.

    • christopher says:

      their stats against lefties are scewed because they often sit against the tougher ones – yesterday notwithstanding.

      you cant always rely on stats – the can be decieving

  138. brokensoul says:

    Am i the only person who see’s this? the yanks have had a tough couple of days with the delay flight and the double header and yesterdays matchup against Santana we have a tough schedule against Texas and Boston coming up and Abreu, Giambi and cano have not have any rest lately, im sure if yesterdays pitcher wasnt santana they would have gotten the day off yesterday , top that with the fact that the yanks won 2 of 3 on the series already and a left in perez pitching i dont see nothing wrong with giving those players a day off

    people need to stip crying about 1 game and start looking at the whole picture

  139. christopher says:

    this team is going nowhere this season – cant even take a series from the joke that is the muts

    the rays ae for real and much better than the yankees. a team with 3 lefty DHs and no righty power outside of AROD and a piece meal rotation just isnt going to get it done and the offense is finally showing its age and cant put togethe any consistantcy.

    • raymagnetic says:

      The Yankees did take the series from the Mets. The first game was a continuation from the previous series.

  140. LiveFromNewYork says:

    I am convinced that there are a lot of late 90s bandwagon jumpers we have not gotten rid of yet. Did any of you live through the 80s as a Yankee fan? Do any of you even enjoy baseball just for the game? I’m so sick of it.

    • Realist says:

      My earliest Yankee memories were the lean years prior to the ’76 sweep by the Big Red Machine, in the World Series………….

      That said, I have seen lean times in the 70′s, 80′s and 90′s………….anyone who believes the team’s direction is equal to any of these, is a bandwagoner at best…..the current administration has given all Yankee fans something to be proud of since the strike shortened ’94 season.

      So back away grom the ledge…………

  141. Rich says:

    It was a typical Torre house-money lineup. Suboptimal.

  142. bxbomber71 says:

    Girardi will have this team on top come October. Mark my words

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