Hughes rights the ship

Game 132: Winning would be a good idea
The Fat Lady hasn't quite sung yet

Triple-A Scranton (3-2 win over Buffalo)
Justin Christian: 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 K, 1 SB
Melky, Juan Miranda & Shelley: all 1 for 4 – Melky drove in a run & walked … Shelley K’ed
Ben Broussard: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 K
Nick Green: 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI – 12 for his last 23 (.522) with 8 RBI
Eric Duncan & Chad Moeller: both 1 for 4, 2 K – Moeller allowed a passed ball
Bernie Castro: 1 for 3, 1 BB, 1 E (throwing)
Phil UUUSE: 6.1 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, 6-6 GB/FB – 61 of 87 pitches were strikes (70.1%) … call him up to take Ponson’s next start? Why not, it’ll be after rosters expand
Phil Coke: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 1-1 GB/FB – 13 of 19 pitches were strikes (68.4%)
Mark Melancon: 1.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 1-0 GB/FB – 15 of 20 pitches were strikes (75%)

Double-A Trenton (2-4 loss to Bowie)
Reegie Corona & Kevin Russo: both 1 for 4 – Corona drove in a run … Russo K’ed
Ramiro Pena & Frankie Cervelli: both 0 for 4, 1 K
Colin Curtis: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI
PJ Pilittere & James Cooper: both 0 for 3 – Cooper K’ed
Chris Malec: 0 for 2, 1 BB – 55-64 K/BB ratio
Edwar Gonzalez: 2 for 3, 1 R, 2 2B – how’s 61 XBH sound?
Eric Hacker: 3 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 1 HB, 5-1 GB/FB
Jhonny Nunez: 2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 1 HB – 22 K in 16.2 IP since coming over in a trade for The Former Attorney General
Wilkins Arias: 2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K
Kevin Whelan: 1 IP, zeroes, 1 K

High-A Tampa (5-1 loss to Dunedin)
Luis Nunez & Andres Perez: both 0 for 4, 1 K
Eduardo Nunez, Seth Fortenberry & Tommy Baldridge (33): all 0 or 3, 1 BB – Fortenberry was caught stealing … Baldridge scored a run
Kevin Smith: 1 for 4, 1 K
Jose Gil: 1 for 2
Mitch Hilligoss & Matt Cusick: both 1 for 3 – Hilligoss K’ed & committed a fielding error … Cusick drove in a run
Humberto Sanchez: 2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 0-3 GB/FB – first time throwing 2 complete innings all year
Jason Stephens: 6 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 1 WP, 9-5 GB/FB

I have no freaking idea what’s going on with the Low-A Charleston box score. The game is being updated very slowly, and for some reason it says it was postponed due to rain even though they’re very much playing. Click the link and follow along if you want, I’m not going to wait around.

Short Staten Island (6-3 win over Tri-City)
Ray Kruml (11): 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 2 K, 1 SB, 1 CS – 17 for his last 42 (.405)
David Adams (3): 0 for 1, 1 R, 3 BB
Brian Baisley: 1 for 4, 1 RBI
Dan Brewer (8), Mike Lyon (24), Steve Strausbaugh & Kalvin Castro: all 0 for 3 – Brewer drew a walk, K’ed & was picked off first … Lyon walked, scored a run & K’ed twice … Strausbaugh drew a walk … Castro K’ed twice
Mitch Abeita (19): 2 for 3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 E (fielding)
Melky Mesa: 1 for 3, 2 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB, 1 SB – 7 homers off the bench this year
David Phelps (14): 5 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 3 BB, 2 K, 10-2 GB/FB – picked a runner off first
Mike Obradovich: 1 IP, zeroes, 1 K
Brad Rulon (34): 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 0-2 GB/FB – 60 K in 39.2 IP … redic
Pat Venditte (20): 1 IP, zeroes, 2 K – 1 baserunner & 13 K  in his last 9.1 IP

Rookie GCL Yanks (2-1 win over GCL Braves)
Emerson Landoni, Kyle Higashioka (7) & Zoilo Almonte: all 0 for 4 – Landoni & Higashioka each K’ed twice
Jimmy Paredes: 1 for 2, 1 E (fielding)
Garrison Lassiter (27) & Chris Smith (5): both 1 for 4, 1 R, 2 K – Lassitter committed a fielding error, his 4th in only 6 games … Smith hit his first career homer & drove in 2
Mitch Delaney (21) & Chad Gross (28): both 2 for 4, 1 K
Alvaro Ramirez: 1 for 4, 1 K
Brett Marshall (6): 3 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 1 WP, 2-3 GB/FB, 1 E (pickoff) – 4 baserunners & 8 K in 6 IP since signing
Nik Turley (50): 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 2-3 GB/FB
Israel Batista: 2 IP, zeroes, 1 K, 2-3 GB/FB
Shawn Joy: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 2-1GB/FB

The GCL Yanks’ season is over. They finished the year 31-27, 2.0 games back in the division, and did not make the playoffs. Last year, as you may recall, they won the league title.

Game 132: Winning would be a good idea
The Fat Lady hasn't quite sung yet
  • Ivan

    Hughes last three starts including the last two he struggled in, he’s been striking guys out pretty well.

    I give him a shot and see what he can do.

    I miss Hughes right now.

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Who do we replace first, Ponson or Rasner?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

      Ponson, he’s on Hughes’ schedule.

      • Old Ranger

        Right!

    • Steve

      How about both, right now? Its almost September.

  • Ivan

    Hey Mike, what is Mark melancon pitches rated on a scouting scale?

    I,ve heard his Curveball is a absolute 70 or more on the scouting scale.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Man, I have no idea. 60-65 maybe? 70 pitches are few and far between.

      • Old Ranger

        I saw him last night. his curve is as close to a 70 as one can be…68-70.

  • A.D.

    Brett Marshall is a GOD

    does he start full season Charleston next year, or exteded spring training & partial season

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Probably Ext. ST then Charleston. That’s the normal route for high school arms.

      • Steve

        Mike, you have a player comp for Marshall?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I’ve heard Haren from more than one place. That’s a tough label to slap on a kid though.

  • Reggie C.

    Well .. There’s no pressure if Hughes come up. The Yanks are gonna get swept tomorrow night. Time to give Hughes another chance. No pressure kid. Just pitch.

    • Chris

      they don’t play tomorrow night… game is a day game :)

  • A.D.

    Phil Coke, doing just fine out of the pen late in the season, and Vindette has been about as good as one could hope since signing

    • http://everythingbaseball.wordpress.com Aaron

      Between the two and Melancon there are a couple of nice bullpen pieces scattered throughout the system.

  • Ivan

    Hey when is A-Jax is coming back?

    Also, is it significant for A-Jax to hold his own in the AFL?

    • Steve

      Season’s just about over. I’ll guess next year or AZ fall league.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Eric Duncan was the MVP of the AzFL a few years back. Does that answer your question?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Oh, and he should be back this weekend.

      • Ivan

        I know and AFL is a hitter’s paridise. Still it would be good if he plays well.

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    I think that if this team is serious about contending they need to give Melancon a spot on this roster

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      That would be like putting a bandaid on a severed artery.

    • bill

      If this team brought back Ruth, Mantle, Gehrig, and Dimaggio to play in September they still wouldnt make the playoffs, so Melancon wouldnt make any difference. The only reason you would bring him up would be for the future. And we’re not losing cuz of the pen, we’re losing cuz of a lack of clutch hitting

  • http://yankeesfuture.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Why? 6 games (if they win tomorrow) isn’t impossible (I wouldn’t bank on it, obviously). But they need a good option in the bullpen, and as much as I like Robertson, he hasn’t done the job quite as anyone thought or hoped. I have never trusted Veras and Ramirez is certainly not trustworthy. Of course, it’s unfair to label Melancon as the savior, but he has the stuff, makeup, and overall ability to be a key cog down the stretch

    • Ivan

      I think you just save Melancon next season.

      Sure at the end of september, let him throw two or three innings but I think it would be wise to save him next year.

      • dan

        then you have to add him to the 40-man

    • bill

      Our bullpen is 1st in strikeouts, and we have 2 losses this year when leading afte 7 innings. Our bullpen is solid

  • Frank B.

    I see the # 50 draft pick Turley pitched tonight. Line looked good, seems he has potential as a high school lefty. Any insights as to what kind of stuff he has?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Nothing yet, sorry. You’re like, the 10th person in the last week to ask me about his stuff. I need to do some digging, but I doubt it’s anything to write home about.

      • D.B.

        im telling you mike turleys gonna be andrew miller jr.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Do you understand just how special of a pitcher Miller is?

          • D.B.

            nah not really. Y is he so special, his control is horrible?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              He’s a lefthanded Joba, just needs to improve on the control. He’s got a chance to be Randy Johnson, same kind of stuff.

              • Ivan

                I wouldn’t go as far as Randy Johnson,

                but a left handed pitcher who gets GB’s and K’s, Yikes.

              • bill

                He doesnt compare to Joba. Therye both around the same age, and Joba has already done it in the bigs, and I think Joba has better stuff

          • D.B.

            nah not really. Y is he so special, isnt his control horrible?

    • nohum
      • MD

        Bullet Nic Turley…….a blast from the past

  • Ivan

    Hopefully next season we alot of Melancon successfully holding leads for Hughes or Joba or Kennedy or Wang.

  • D.B.

    hey Mike,
    Do you think that Hughes will make his next start in the big leagues?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I don’t think so, I think they’ll leave him down there through the playoff, another 2-3 starts or so.

      • Ivan

        Yea Hughes is a big game pitcher when it comes to the playoffs

        Any how, will hughes make about 2 starts in September?

  • bill

    I say call up all the kids now. Take out Rasner and Ponson and bring up Aceves and Hughes. Let them learn on the job. This team is going nowhere and wouldnt do anything in the playoffs even if they made it, which they wont. I want to see Coke and Melancon here also. I’ll accept stinking for the next few years like in the early 90’s if we bring in young players.

    • D.B.

      I want them to call Phil up, but it would be better for him to stay in AAA.

      • http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com steve

        If the season is over, might as well let the lesser-tier guys try to prove themselves.

        Hughes missed a lot of time – AAA will be a good thing for him.

        • bill

          Like who, Sidney Ponson? I dont want him to prove himself, cuz he’s not gonna be on the team next year and I’m quite sick of him

          • http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com steve

            Noooooooo….

            I meant lesser tier prospects like Wright, Aceves, etc.

            • bill

              Oh, sorry. I really want to see Aceves too. Really intriguing. Chase Wright … not so much. Not enough K’s

      • bill

        We’re not going anywhere, so why not? I’m at peace with not making it to the pplayoffs now, it was a great run, and you cant do it every year. We are in transition and marred by injuries anyway

  • bill

    Mike: Do you think Ponson and Rasner are out and Hughes and Aceves are in? I hope to God so. You can NEVER trust Ponson in a big spot. I knew that coming in to the game, and Girardi shouldve known that also. Shame on him

    • dan

      Yea, Girardi should have started one of the other guys on the team instead of the scheduled starter.

      • DaveM

        LOL Good one Dan :-)

      • bill

        I mean c’mon. Whenever Girardi says “Sidney’s pitched well for us” I laugh in disgust. It’s like hes watching a comletely different game than I am. I wouldve rather had Girardi pitch himself. I knew Ponson wouldnt get the job done, and who didnt. Did anyone really have confidence in Sidney Ponson?

        • Ivan

          What you want Girardi to say.

          • bill

            Yeah he actually believes it, which is why he started him tonight in the biggest game of the season. Its one thing to say it, its another thing to believe it

      • bill

        Hey idiot he had an off day to reconfigure the rotation

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Easy with the name calling. He only could have reconfigured so much, it would have been Pavano vs Lester tomorrow then. Ponson was going to pitch eventually, one way or the other.

          • bill

            Yeah but you cant pitch him against the Sox. He had a 6.92 ERA career against them coming into the game, and he was already lit up by them earlier. Its crunch time now, and you cant afford to get beat with your worst pitchers on the mound when you could change that. If there was no off day, I wouldnt be criticizing Girardi now

            • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

              Seeing as how Sidney Ponson is the third best pitcher in this rotation, I can’t see how you find fault with Girardi not managing the rotation to avoid Sidney Ponson in this series. Unless you advocate starting Carl Pavano against the Red Sox in his second Major League outing since TJS.

              • bill

                I wouldve started Moose instead of Ponson, and then Pavano tomorrow. Pavano is better than Ponson, pitches better in big games, and has something to prove.

  • http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com steve

    Besides the free agents (Giambi, Abreu, Ponson, etc), who do you think loses their 40 man roster spots this winter?

    Traber and Ransom are definites. (They can always just give them minor league deals if they want to bring them back.) And I would guess the maybes would be Shelley Duncan, Scott Patterson, and Darrell Rasner?

    I’m not so sure about Patterson. I think this September he might be pitching for a spot.

    I think Rule V eligible guys are Ramiro Pena, JB Cox, Alan Horne, Chrs Garcia, and Wilkins de la Rosa. Horne and Cox probably are locks – it will be interesting to see if they add Garcia or de la Rosa. I would guess there is precedent to add them – didn’t they add both Chase Wright and Chien-Ming Wang when neither had any AA experience?

    • http://everythingbaseball.wordpress.com Aaron

      Traber will likely be gone, I agree. Even in the minors he had trouble getting lefties out so I see little reason to bring him back other than to simply fill out a roster.

      It seems as though the organization likes what Ransom brings to the table but is he the kind of player that would need to be protected on the 40-man roster? Or, better yet, is he the type of player that another team would be interested in selecting in the Rule V draft?

      Early this season (maybe it was Spring Training) I had seen rumors that Billy Beane coveted Shelley Duncan. I realize the A’s have restocked their farm system and have little need for Duncan now, but could a trade be explored for Duncan? Could he be traded to St. Louis to be with his brother and father? I just have trouble seeing a role for him on this team next season. Perhaps that’s another opening on the 40-man roster.

      • http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com steve

        Regarding Ransom, he can be taken off because he’s 30 years old and if the Yankees want him to come back next year and fight for a spot in spring, he would just take a minor league deal. If someone took him on the Rule V if would be little lose, and they would be stupid to do it.

    • bill

      Sidney Ponson has no chance of being with the team next year. And I would protect Garcia and de la Rosa from the Rule V draft

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Well there is some good news tonight, it seems that Saber Scouting is not dead. This from author, Lincoln Hamilton:

    We’re about to post a ‘09 Draft Preview, the wait won’t be much longer. We appologize for the lack of activity recently and hope the new content will be worth the wait.

    Yay!

    http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/07/27/2009hshot30/#comment-1928

    • dan

      lol, they’ve written some variation of that about 4 times in the few months they’ve existed. It’s very enjoyable to read, but sadly we can’t do that too often.

  • xkevinx

    Who needs to be protected on the 40 man after the season? Time to dump Ponson, Pavono, Rasner and others that are not part of the plans for next season. Add the kids that need to be protected and let them get a look in august.

  • D.B.

    wilmer flores is nice…he and martinez will be a great 1-2 punch in the bigs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=594331910 Jamal G.

    Hank Steinbrenner: “They [the Yanks] sucked.”

    http://www.newsday.com/video/?slug=ny-spyanks0828-wn

    I like Hank, I really do. I think his comments are vastly blown out of proportion, I think he knows what the hell he’s talking about for the most part, and I’ve never taken issue with what he has said thus far.

    However, although I do not agree with calling your team out like that, I do not think comments from an owner really resonate on a player’s psyche when he takes the field, so who really gives a shit?

    • bill

      I’m also a big Hankenstein fan. And if his comments affect a player’s play, he shouldnt be on the team (unless its a young player)

      • http://yankeesmtom.blogspot.com steve

        I completely agree.

        All of his comments are taken out of context. The Joba thing a while ago said nothing wrong – he said Joba should be in the rotation, just like the entire organization agreed, but he understood there would be a process to it for Joba’s well-being, but the media just “forgot” about that last part.

        I see nothing wrong with him calling out the team. It’s better than one of Joe Girardi’s bland, “I thought he pitched well” nothing answers.

        • bill

          Exactly. I would rather have Jerry Manuel as our manager, because he calls out his players

  • http://therabblewithout.blogspot.com NC Saint

    I realize that active professionals can’t be inducted at Cooperstown, but am I the only one who thinks an exception should be made for Pat Venditte? I realize that 0.0 major league innings is a small sample size, but it’s pretty clear he’s one of the all time greats. Why bother waiting?

    • Luke S.

      Is Venditte still switch-pitching? And if he is, does it take twice as long for him to warm up?

      Inquiring minds, and all that …

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

        From The Times:

        “Like everyone else, Venditte gets only eight warm-up pitches upon entering a game and five before any inning, whether he chooses to throw left-handed or right-handed, and may not warm up again if he changes arms midinning.”

  • bill

    Its also a joke this team couldnt score more than two runs in 6 innings against Paul fucking Byrd

  • bill

    Cano has been a MAJOR dissapointment. He has regressed since 06. I love him, but I dont know what the fuck he’s doing. If he had any motivation, he’d be really pissed that Pedroia has become a better player and he’ll have a bounceback year next season

    • Ivan

      dude Cano had a great year last season.

      • bill

        Yeah but he wasnt consistent, and he wasnt as good as in 06. And this year he has played terrible, uninspired ball. You cant deny that. There have been several times this year where you could see he wasnt giving full effort defensively, and he has been swinging at everything. You want your young players to get better, and he hasnt done that

        • Ivan

          actually he hit for more power in 07 than in 06 and his walk rate was higher in 07 than 06.

        • Ivan

          it’s just one bad year and he will bounce back trust me.

  • Hitman

    I simply have no faith in hughes to ever stay healthy. This guy is out for entire seasons at a time. Nick Johnson was lilke this. Him and Hughes may end up taking the same career path.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      How do you figure? He’s been pitching since the beginning of the month.

      • Rick in Boston

        Not to mention that he was the youngest pitcher in the bigs at the start of the season. Patience, folks, it’s what Cashman (and the guys here at RAB) have been preaching.

    • A.D.

      The difference is Hughes hasn’t injured his arm, he had different one off injuries, and before the hamstring, I don’t even know if he was hurt before that.

      Nick Johnson has always had wrist problems, which is never good for a hitter

  • Cupz

    Not to be off topic or anything, but what the hell happened to LaTroy Hawkins?

    • KW

      wow, 8 innings, 3 hits, 3 walks, 0 runs, 14 Ks

      Goes to show the NL is utter crap

  • MD

    it seems to run in cycles, but periodically in Yankee history you see players come to NY and excel beyond their career numbers (Bob Turley, Maris, Nettles, Figueroa, Paulie, Brosius, etc), and then you see them do better before or after NY (Giambi, Pavano, Wright, and most recently Latroy)…….we just need to get on the mid nineties cycle again…….and the approach is not to sign superstars who just had career years…….sign younger players who still have not hit their ceiling…….we already have a superstar at 3b……we need a cast who can carry him.

    • JohnnyC

      This would entail a clear vision of how to build a championship team, something that’s been lacking since Gene Michael & Buck Showalter were removed from power. And we only have Cashman’s own words to think that there’s a clear vision in place now. We have too many one-dimensional players whose only skill is the hit tool (and mostly the power aspect of that tool). Little thought was given to the absolutely necessary other aspects of the game: defense, speed, durability, youth. It’s easy to say it’s a case of signing aging superstars to burdensome contracts but it goes beyond that. It’s a philosophy of how baseball games are won. Pitching, defense, timely hitting. When we can fashion a 25 man roster that can at least attempt to do all three things well, then we can talk championships again.

      • Old Ranger

        One only needs to look around the league to see the teams that are winning consistingly. LAA, Tampa, Boston (now), Blue Jays, even Baltimore are doing it with one or two power hitters, the rest of the guys are good contact/situational hitters. Very good defence and good pitching along with good contact/situational hitting is the way to go.
        A (very) few of us have been pitching this for most of the year (or less), but it seems as if a lot of people wish to bring back guys such as Jason, Bobby, Johnny, Pudge, Wilson even Matsui. In the type of baseball we need, these guys are the epicenter of a lot of our problems. Granted, unless we can obtain some of the players we need, one or so will need to come back. 27/08??

  • pat

    laird romine and suttle went deep.. booya

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