Game 137: A Labor-ious road trip
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So this sounds like fun, no? Over the next ten days, the Yanks will journey from Detroit to Tampa Bay to Seattle to Anaheim. I don’t have a very good feeling about a trip that includes the longest possible flight in the AL.
On the mound today is Sidney Ponson for some reason. Ponson is 7-5 on the season with a 4.80 ERA, but with the Yanks, he’s 3-4 with a 5.64 ERA. He’s been terrible of late, and with Al Aceves in the big leagues and Phil Hughes starting today for Scranton, I have to hope that Ponson’s days in the rotation are numbered.
The lineup is, uncreatively, the same as it was this weekend against the Blue Jays. Pudge is behind the dish. Perhaps we’ll see Krazy Kyle again today.
Damon CF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C
Ponson P
I thought the general consensus among fans was that they didn’t want the line up to change so much like Girardi was doing for the first half of the season….
When the lineup changed every game, and the Yankees didn’t score a lot of runs, the problem was the lineup changes. Now that the lineup is set and they’re not scoring runs, the problem is the set lineup.
Girardi needs to work on mixing up the lineup some, but not too much. That’s the key for the Yankees offense to get going.
How about dropping Giambi and his .205 with RISP out of the 5 hole and moving up Matsui? Its only a month late, but hey you never know.
never mind that Matsui only came back 2 weeks ago
To me, sounds like people just finding ways to blame Girardi for the offense sucking balls.
Girardi has to be concerned that the team does not tank and it could. The Yanks are out of it for all practical purposes and an 8 and 18 month is a real possibility. If the team quits it would reflect badly on Girardi, he might appear safe for next year but doubts could start to form and a move to replace him with a more experienced manager is not out of the question. The Yankee situation is going to be very volatile in the aftermath of such a disappointing season, Girardi needs to demonstrate at the very least that the team played hard for him all year.
I don’t think that will realistically happen. Too many of these guys are playing for contracts next year. If they some of these guys were really going to tank the season, they would have moved them at the waiver deadline.
The Yanks should continue letting Ponson and Pavano start in hopes that a contender will offer a prospect and we can make a trade. Obviously we don’t stand to get much… but it couldn’t hurt.
No one’s going to want them now, players had to be on the roster by today to be eligible for the postseason.
It’s the first inning, it doesn’t count.
Not only does it not count, but since he’s doing “work” and driving in runs on Labor Day, he’s un-American. Shameful.
BOOOOOOOOO!!!!
the best part is that alex went up the middle it. that’s where he puts it when he’s going good.
Good start but they’ll need another 15 if they want to win today…
I really don’t understand why Giardi should come under such criticism. But then again I didn’t understand the rush to get Torre out of town either. I think that the Yankees have played hard for Giardi all season. If you look back at the lack of organizational depth coupled with the range of injuries the Yankees have suffered this season its a testament to thier veterans that they stayed relevant as long as they have. This team despite its payroll has been poorly put together for at least the past four years. That responsibility rest with the front office and in particular the GM.
This team needs to get younger, deeper, more athletic and much better defensively. I could be wrong, but I don’t think giving tons of money to one or two FA and not addressing the team’s greater needs of depth will help in the long run.
Maybe its time to keep the manager and send the GM off to the “left coast”.
“But then again I didn’t understand the rush to get Torre out of town either.”
The rush? After 12 years?
bleich is starting for SI in the playoffs
Saw that. Good news, glad the elbow’s okay.
What level you think they put him next year? I would guess High-A Tampa since he’s a college pitcher.
Yep, Tampa. Almost a certainty.
No surprise… Posada 60 day DL and Traber DFA for Coke and Moeller.
Wow, I expected Pudge to get booed. Shows what I know.
you know better than that mike, its the second at bat they get booed lol.
Only in Boston do they boo a guy who helped them get to a world series.
like you expect anymore from those cock suckers.
lol
guys is this the same verlander, that guy who threw the no hitter not too long ago? definately not stuff wise but it is him right?
That jump from 130 IP in 2005 to 207.2 IP in 2006 (including playoffs) is catching up with him. It’s not the next year that it hits you, it’s the year after that.
he always had good stuff. so i guess he’ll turn into a nono himself. i guess thats what happens when you gas your young pitchers.
gay-rod is always good for a double play
.. and is it me or is this a hitters park?
Wow, is this team a juggernaut or what. Don’t try to stop the Yankee Express…
OK, get this fat toad off the mound immediately. This would be a worse loss than saturday.
We might lose this game lol
Put in Aceves next inning
Cano for Billingsley ? Who would do it ?
Everyone but the Dodgers.
really? who’d play second base?
well, you could go for Hudson or Ellis or try getting someone through trade. I am not sure and that is why I am not the GM.
Sign Orlando Hudson or something. Billingsley’s too good to pass up.
I would be very happy swapping Cano for Billingsley and then signing Hudson.
I love Cano, but I would do that in a heartbeat if we could sign Hudson as well. Then package another arm for a younger bat, though not Hughes for Votto as Sherman suggested.
I sense another good inning for the Yanks.
Jon Heyman said they would do it
Did you guys see Peter Abe’s comments regarding Joba? He mentions there that Cashman said they’re intent on him being a starter next season, although it’ll still have to be discussed.
Anyone care to explain why the fuk they’d do that? He’s a goddamn starter, keep it that way!
This is the post I was referring to:
“JOBA UPDATE: He will be activated tomorrrow. Joe Girardi said they planned to use him out of the bullpen for the rest of the season because it’s too late to build him back up to start.
Brian Cashman (who is on the trip) said the intent is to have Joba return to starting next season. But he said it was something they had to further discuss.”
Probably because since he got hurt this year and now has a inning deficiency they want to still baby him. Wrong move but a tad understandable.
It’s just a matter of keeping his innings under control.
They can’t keep on switching his role around. His highest value is a starter, period.
I’ll go nuts if I see him start the year out of the pen.
Joel Sherman *** not john heyman sorry
i kinda want arod to hit into a triple play. i’d find it highly amusing.
If anybody wants a laugh, take a look at the Gameday for today’s game. They got Coke listed as a hitter not a pitcher.
werd wacky stuff.
It’s the third inning, those runs only count for half RBI’s.
You know, as much as I hate that “clutch” stuff, it might be interesting to make that into a fantasy league. You know, they only keep score after the 7th inning or something like that.
That would be pretty cool. You can do pitchers too, with holds instead of wins.
Would A-Rod even be drafted? (and I’m a big fan)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08.....htm?page=0 This is an old article but a good one in my opinion. I like most of these ideas besides dealin Damon for Kotchman just becuz that would never happen cause ity would be the dumbest thing for the Braves to do. Idk bout dealin Hughes just yet. I like him too much. I would try Kennedy and others for a young 1b like votto tho evne tho that might be unrealistic. Id only deal Cano for Billingsley of those 3. I like O Dog but Cano is so young and so cheap for many years with so much more talent. Id prefer to keep Cano.
I only wonder if the rest of the ML teams ranks our prospects/players as highly as we Yankee fans do. I know for sure that many fans of other teams think that most if not all of the proposed deals highly favor the Yankees in terms of value.
No they don’t, but they do the same thing with their farm systems too.
Glad I didn’t start Verlander during fantasy playoff week
Those Raymour and Flanigan Furniture commercials are so effin’ creepy.
Word. Too much drama for a furniture commercial.
there was an interesting article on MLBTR. it basically put joey votto at first cano off the team, signing o-dogg. did anyone see it? if i can find it ill link it
Holey shit was that the worst HR call you’ve ever heard? Hey Flaherty, don’t quit you . . . .oh, thats right. This IS his day job.
This should lock it up as Sidney’s last start right?
jeez i hope so. i’d much rather give hughes ML innings.
According to LoHud, Phil Phranchise will be heading off to the AFL and won’t be joining the team anytime soon. Kennedy is a possibility.
joey h my link a few posts up is what you read
yea thats what it is. i like it, change the whole team. get a little less expensive. i hve been saying i like votto since when we played the reds and he put up good #’s. hes cheap. hes young. hes better.
Oh come on Cano. Glove all the way down, then bring it up if you have too. They teach you that in little league.
O-dog woulda had it.
Way to go Cano…it’s nice to see he has a short memory and doesn’t learn lessons.
ya know what i hate. When ppl say pedoia is so much better than cano. thats one thing that really pisses me off
I hate Pedroia and I think he’s a punk who needs to be plunked, but he would have had that play and saturday’s double play and every other bonehead play that Cano has screwed up this year.
Well unfortunately this year, there is no doubt it’s true
jesus edwar
Man, I really hope this is the last we see of Ponson this season. There are several AAA pitchers who I’d be more confident in than him. Hell, at this point, Chase Wright – who’s had a great season – deserves it over Ponson. IPK has even been pitching well – if he can finish strong, that would be very nice. Granted, Giese will likely take the slot after he is activated, which I believe is today or tomorrow…
Can they DFA (Designate the Fat Ass) him during the game?
11-8.
Un
fucking
believable
Are they going to win this one? Damn.
Mike are teams limited to how many type A free agents they can sign
Yes, but it’s a weird rule. They can sign one Type-A FA for every Type-A FA they lose, plus 2. Something weird like that.
is this seriously happening?
whats up homies
I assume, of course you know what happens when you ASSume something, that Aceves will start Saturday when Ponson’s spot in the rotation comes around again.
Ooof. That was much harder than it should have been.
I love Edwar, but you have to bring him in to clean innings. He just sucks with inherited runners. Trouble with him is he doesn’t get hit all that much, but when he gets hit, he gets hit HARD.
mike i had a question for u…. whats the deal with scott strickland?? every box score i look at it seems he does real well… there any talk about seeing what he can do at the big league level? how come his name is never mentioned?
Cause he is old and has already pitched in the majors before a few times.
He’s had a good year, but he’s also had some injury trouble. Not really worth adding to the 40-man.
Good ole Yankees, they never never seem to dissapoint…
I went to go take a shower and … oh forget it, I don’t even want to know what happened.
MAn if you want to read a post that will really piss you off. go to mlbtr and go down to the yanks offseason moves and click on it and jus read some of the ppls comments.. my god why does everyone hate everything bout the yankees
cuz theyre the yankees… ppl hating them makes me love them even more
the yankees should not trade cano, yea hes made bad plays, but should they trade damon for every runner thats advanced a base because he had no arm? or jeter for not having range and letting balls get past him? or for ever double abreus given up because hes scared to hit the wall? or posada for all the runners that stole bases because he was hurt? or pettite for having all those bad starts when we needed him to come through?
that pitch was piped
Big hit by the Cap’n.
Whew – wiggle room. Almost up to that 15 run mark
2 out rally???? WOW
I swear, I have never seen a batter come up with the bases loaded more than A-Rod. It’s amazing.
i was just thinking that
he’s like a figure out of greek myth, doomed to fail again and again
at least the captain came thru there… hold it pen
any chance of seeing coke today? hes up right
lol did i know it or what.
DAMASO WHOOOO?! LOL
Congrats to Coke on finally getting to the bigs. I remember when he was getting his brains beat in with Charleston in 2005.
Let’s see what Coke has.
Nice inning by Coke. That slider’s a good enough pitch that he should be a decent LOOGY, if nothing else.
here’s hoping he continues to prove just that. might give the FO incentive to let marte walk and pick up the type A compensation …
Nice debut for Coke. Good stuff.
coke was a starter converted reliever right?
Yeah, but just to control his innings. He didn’t throw his changeup that inning, but it’s a solid pitch.
say we get CC. so, wang-cc-joba-Mussina? and they will end up bringing pettite back which i dont agree with but say pettite, can he be a spot starter, long reliever with dan geise? add some lefty depth to that pen
and that lefty spot starter or even starter is more if pettite isnt there.
Sure.
damn, we got lucky. the tigers are pitching The Highlander tomorrow.
marte showed alot of more grit that inning, almost like he wants so assume that 8th inning role undivided
OFF SUBJECT – But the recent success of Tampa Bay & the @!&# Red Sux bringing up their own players have me thinking:
The Overhyped Yankee Prospect Alumni Society (20+ years running)
Orestes Destrade
Hensley Meulens
Ruben Rivera
Bronson Sardinha
Jackson Melian
Eric Duncan
Melky Cabrera
Hope this doesn’t turn into a 25 man roster. Feel free to copy/paste/use again or update through next season.
You can do that for any team in baseball, that’s why they are called “prospects” not “guarantees”
Every team has prospects that don’t work out. Just look at this game, Bobby Seay was a super-hyped D-Rays prospect, as was Casey Fossum with the Sox.
It’s the nature of the beast, some guys don’t work out. That doesn’t mean they didn’t have great stuff or anything.
Remember when Sean Henn was throwing 98-100 MPH with his left hand?
Those were the days.
Also Melky was never that highly thought of as a prospect.
thought for sure mo would come in
hey mike,
what did you think of garcias aa debut?
Few too many walks, but I attribute that to nerves. Overall, it went well.
was that the first fastball hes throwin this inning?
good game yanks
mike, any chance at all ponson makes another start for us?
Man I hope not.
If the yankees go 5-0 in the next 5 days, maybe. Otherwise just send out IPK and Hughes to give them innings and consistant starts in the majors.
Why if they go 5-0? At this point, do you really think he gives us a better chance to win than Hughes/Kennedy/Aceves/Pile of dog shit?
actually I forgot about Giese coming back. Never mind, Ponson is gone.
I’ve heard that that shit-pile’s stuff is just filthy.
aceves?
Ponson should get his walking papers. There are so many better options. Personally I want to see Hughes take Ponson’s spot and Joba get two or three relief stints, then take Rasner’s spot after his next start. You have to see what you have before you chase TWO big name pitchers.
God damn it! First I miss Aceves’s appearence and now I miss Phil Coke’s.
aceves was perfect i think i heard 17/19 strikes and coke gave up a hit to a batting crown hitter in ordonez but displayed a good breaking ball and struck out 2/4 hitters including his first
yankees have a lot of young bullpen arms that they could trade to get something valuable back. Drob, Coke, maybe even Giese.
Giese isn’t young per se.
Ponson kept us in this one.
I hope today’s outing ended Sidney Ponson’s Yankee career
I WANNA SEE HUGHES PITCH MAN
Just seeing Hughes would be plenty for me.
Holy crap guys, anyone with MLB at bat for ipod touch/iPhone needs to update it! It now has live gameday+boxscores, amazing!
http://forums.macrumors.com/sh.....p?t=554955
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