Open Threat Thread: Can a blogger get some hot stove action?

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I mean, seriously. These open threads are tough to write when the hot stove is running ice cold. Four years and $52M for Ryan Dempster? The D-Bags are interested in Ramon Vazquez? Yawn me. We had our fun with the “perhaps” 5/80 offer to AJ Burnett this morning, and there’s really nothing kooky about the AL MVP voting, except for an extraneous 5th place vote for Jason Bartlett. We need some hardcore hot stove talk, either that or AzFL games on TV.

Here’s your open thread for the evening, talk whatever you like. Hopefully something exciting will go down tomorrow, and until then listen to sound the ball makes off the bat of Bryce Harper. Only three years until he graduates high school.

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  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G. aka Omar Moha… Gareef… Something September Eleventh-y

    You think Bryce Harper gets LeBron James-esque hype prior to the 2012 MLB Draft?

    • Mike Pop

      Ive read hes a catcher.. Is he better than Wieters

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Switching hitting catcher with studly defense and no reason to see him moving out from behind the plate. He’s in the Griffey, A-Rod, J-Upton class.

        • Jay CT

          So Mike, 1 second ago you are asking if hes better then Weiters, not you are syaing he is so great that the team should lose, and to trust you? Doesn’t seem like its a very reliable source.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      2011 Draft, he’s a sophomore now.

  • Thomas

    “Hardcore hot stove talk” sounds dirty.

    • steve (different one)

      and a little dangerous.

  • kenthadley

    ok….if we dont get CC, does adding AJ and Lowe really make us better than Pettite and Mussina of last year? if Moose comes back, arent we better off just signing them for a short contract of one or two years, looking to roll the dice on a Sheets for depth, and continuing to build the pitching internally…..use the $ on Texiera, and maybe another hitter? without signing an impact pitcher, it seems the better bet is to go for depth next year and use the money for hitting and maybe future opportunities.

    • JD

      The Padres told the Yankees a Jake Peavy deal is possible even without Phil Hughes. They’ve scouted Hughes anyway, but he’s off-limits.

  • Mike Pop

    We gotta lost 100 games in 2011 to get that guy… ITS WORTH IT ! TRUST ME !

    • A.D.

      Or hope he goes signability case and drops

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        He’s already latched onto Boras.

      • Mike Pop

        Lol 20 million or some shit

    • Thomas

      We won’t draft him unless he needs TJ.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Gotta keep the streak alive man, make it 10 years running baby.

        2008: Luke Greinke
        2007: Andrew Brackman
        2006: Mark Melancon
        2005: JB Cox
        2004: Chris Garcia
        2003: Jason Stephens
        2002: Eric Hacker
        2001: Jon Skaggs
        2000: Sean Henn

        • Steve H

          What, no Bleich?

          • Steve

            Not yet.

            • Steve

              I wonder how Tommy John felt when they told him he needed Tommy John surgery.

              • Jack

                Doctor: I’ve got good news and bad news. Which do you want first?
                TJ: Give me the good news doc.
                Doctor: Well, you’re going to have a surgery named after you.

        • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

          Greinke needs TJ? Didn’t he pitch in SI?

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Yeah, but he got hurt midway through the season.

    • Jay, CT

      Sorry, meant to say down here that earlier you ask if hes better then Weiters, but now you are willing to sell your soul to the devil. And to “trust you.” Seems like you are just a wealth of knowledge

  • Steve

    I’ll give you something.

    I don’t believe for one second that Andy is demanding 16 mil. That’s the Yankee PR machine paving the way for his exit, and many fans took the bait this morning and came to the conclusion the Yanks wanted you to come to.

    Since when has Andy been all about money? He took 30 mil from the Astros when the Yanks were offering 45. He talks often about retiring to be with his family, and he’s one of the few players where you actually believe it. He was one of TWO Yankee players who showed up at Bobby Mercer’s funeral. Not because he was especially close to Mercer, but because being part of the Yankee family means something to him.

    If they’re going to let him go, fine. But lets not smear him as just another greedy ballplayer on the way out. This isn’t Boston.

    • A.D.

      Its just his agent doing his job, his agent doesn’t want Andy to take a pay cut… that’s his job, the fact they’re starting the negotiation at 16M pretty much means it’s coming down

      If he plays next year

      • Steve

        His agent knows what the rest of the world knows, that the Yanks won’t take him back unless he accepts a big pay cut. Negotiating how big the cut will be would start at 15 on their side and whatever the Yanks counter offer is. But if you remember Andy at the Joe Torre dinner, he said that the Yanks haven’t made an offer to him. Nothing. The silence around Andy has been deafening.

        They’re not negotiating, they’re spinning.

        • steve (different one)

          i don’t think they are spinning, i think they are stalling.

          they are waiting for Moose.

          i don’t think they want both old guys back, they want one or the other.

          and i think Moose is probably first on their list.

  • Andiamo

    I don’t doubt that Andy’s agent has started negotiations by saying he dosen’t want Andy to take a pay cut. He is already limited in that Andy says he wants to play for the Yankees. I bet he ends up with 1 yr 12 mil. Andy better hope Mussina retires or he will be looking for a whole lot less from the Astros, if he pitches at all.

    • Steve

      The report of Andy not wanting to take a pay cut came from “Yankee sources” according to the story.

      Why would they leak that? If its ‘just negotiations’, which are usually kept behind closed doors? I don’t remember any leaks about Marte’s salary demands.

      I think they’re paving the way for his exit.

  • Mike Pop

    Anyone think CC just flat out doesnt want to play for us ?

    • kenthadley

      yes…..why else the non-response to the offer? does he think someone is going to beat it? he doesn’t want to come east to the AL, and is hoping LAD drop their $ on him rather than Manny……

      • Mike Pop

        Im starting to think he just doesnt have ANY interest in being here

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Chill out yo. It’s been less than a week. He and his agent are just waiting for some other teams to get involved, it’s just good business. Almost all major negotiations are like this, it’s just people are hanging on CC like he’s the Messiah.

        • Mike Pop

          Isnt he the Messiah ? He was born again for the sole purpose to bring us a ring

          • B.George

            Yeah you guys need to chill out a little bit. Its called negotiating. If you know you can get more money you are going to try and get it. His agent is just trying to figure out what angle to play. If other teams are interested then he is going to play the teams against each other to get more money. If the Yanks first offer knocked everybody out of the race then he is going to send smoke screens so the Yanks up the offer. You guys are ridiculous.

            • Mike Pop

              Lol I love how I get called ridiculous.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t10twK4BZoc Kevin

    Whats an open threat?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t10twK4BZoc Kevin G.

      I forgot to add the G. to my name.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It means comment or else, bitch.

  • Thomas

    With Dempster resigning effectively taking them out of the Jake Peavy trade scenario. Do you see this lowering the price on Peavy?

    I’m still not sure I’d want Peavy at his probable cost, but was just wondering.

    • Steve H

      I don’t think it takes them out, they expected to resign Dempster the whole time.

  • Ed – sign CC immediately

    did you know Swisher hates Beckett?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZi-zaOshQ (the first 10 seconds)

    • Mike Pop

      Lol

    • MasterShake

      haha good find

  • A.D.

    Anyone think the cubs have any chance of moving Fukodome

    • E-ROC

      CashMoney just told me that Fukudome will be pinstripes in 2009. If I had to guess Cash is will only offer Chris Britton if the Cubs pay half.

  • Andiamo

    The Daily News calling CC a Cash COW on the cover is a scary precognition of what the NY media could be.

  • Mike Pop

    Drew Stubbs or A-JAx?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Jackson, easily. When your worst tool is your ability to put the bat on the ball, it doesn’t matter how well you do everything else. However I will say that Stubbs made the greatest catch I’ve ever seen live – ran a mile and made a diving catch on a blooper in the ’05 CWS.

      • Mike Pop

        Why was he drafted so high ? They screwed up huh

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Nah, ability like that is hard to come by. If it clicks for him, he’ll be a superstar. High risk, high reward. White guys with that kind of athleticism are few and far between.

          /racism

          • Mike Pop

            Lol im quizzing your ass… When he gonna make his debut in the majors ?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Probably next year. He had a much better year in 2008 than I realized.

              • Mike Pop

                The Reds have got to compete and be a real serious team soon right ? Like god damn.. All these young guys.. Him and Bruce in the outfield.. Votto Volquez Cueto Bailey…and maybe Yonder Alonso.. They would have to deal one of him or Votto eventually right

                • Ivan

                  they could just move Votta to LF.

                • Frank, C-Town

                  MY GOD!!! ALL YOU EVER DO IS QUESTION THINGS MIKE POP! These people are not God on this site, you don’t have to suck up to everyone. Grow a set of balls and stand on your own two feet

  • E-ROC

    David Wright getting his freak on.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,453869,00.html

    • Mike Pop

      My dream right there

    • Steve

      I’m convinced he’s Gay.

      Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  • Andiamo

    Any interst in getting Felix Pie from the Cubs for CF. They have soured on him and he still has a lot of potential.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Another guy that would have the BUST tag firmly applied if he was a Yank. Why are people willing to be more patient with other team’s prospects than they are with the our own?

      • Mike Pop

        Cuz it involves buying low on high potential which us Yanks fans like to do.. Dont give up top prospects.. We want to buy low like Swish

        • Steve H

          I see what your saying, but it doesn’t make sense. If we traded low for IPK or Hughes right now, would all of the Hughes/IPK haters like the trade? They probably would, which is the part that makes no sense. Of course they are the same people, that if we did trade Hughes and he became a start, they’d deny everything bad they ever said about the kid.

          • Mike Pop

            I didnt say trade low I said buy low.. Does that make sense ? Or did I explain it bad or am I not understanding what your saying ? Cuz im a bit confused

            • Steve H

              Sorry. Your statement itself made sense. But the perception that many fans would have doesn’t make sense. If Pie was a Yankee these last few years, everyone that hates on Hughes and IPK would have been hating on Pie for years now. Yet if we traded for him right now, those same people would love the trade, even though his performance is what it is, and has been for the last few years (regardless of what uniform he was wearing) Now I don’t think I’m making much sense, but I hope you get my drift. If we could buy Pie cheap, I’d be interested.

              • Mike Pop

                Alright dude I got what your saying now and I agree with ya.. People arent patient but I think that also comes with the fact that we havent won shit in 8 years.. At least the way the Yanks look at it.. We gotta win every year baby !

          • Mike Pop

            Wait you saying if they were on different teams and not they Yanks ? IF thats waht ya meant then I got it now

    • Thomas

      I wouldn’t mind having Pie, but I have a feeling he will never reach that potential especially in NYC. I wouldn’t trade anything more than Melky for him.

  • Andiamo

    Pie could potentially be a lot better than Melky or Gardner. Jackson is still a way off. He (Pie) might be cheap and a worthwhile gamble. We have to get younger and more athletic.

  • Ivan

    How good could Swisher be for the yanks this season?

    Are my expectation reasonable if I say he can go:

    .270/.375/.500

    Type of player the yanks would surely benefit.

    • Steve H

      Average is not reasonable. Slugging would be a career high, but I (optimistically) think that’s possible. His best years came in a big time pitchers park, the short porch could be very beneficial.

      • Steve

        Yeah, I’d love to see his fly ball charts, if anyone knows where to find that stuff. I’m hoping the Yanks see something I don’t, because they’re giving every indication that he’s their 1B.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          MLB.com has them. There weren’t any fly balls that were turned into outs at The Cell that would have been homers at the stadium, and there’s maybe 3 or 4 doubles that would have been out, but I say that without knowing the nature of the hits (line drive, bloop, rocket off the top of the wall, etc).

          • Steve

            Thanks, Mike. You have a link? I’d like to bookmark that one.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              MLB.com has it for all hitters. Go to their player page, and click on “Hit Chart” underneath their stats from last yr & career.

    • Steve

      He’s never hit .270 in his life.

      He’s only had an OBP above .375 once.

      He’s never slugged .500 in his life.

      • Ivan

        He can certainly hit .270 it’s not like im asking him to hit .300

        Plus, Swisher can certainly have a OBP over .370
        and if his power #’s improve he can slug .500 or at least .480.

        • Steve

          I know Paul O’Niell and Scott Brocius came here and put up numbers well exceeding what they had done previously, but guys like that are few and far between.

          It’s unreasonable to expect someone to have a career year just because they put on the pinstripes. Especially coming off such a bad year.

        • Frank, C-Town

          So you ask if your expectations are reasonable, then someone says you are way high, and you tell them that they are wrong. Why ask if you know the answer?

    • Mike Pop

      270 with 27 hrs and 95 rbis baby !!

    • Ed – sign CC immediately

      the short porch will definately help out Swish.

      • Steve

        Being a switch hitter, you’d also have to figure Death Valley hurts him as well.

        • Steve H

          Much less so though, many more at bats vs. RHP

    • T-Dizzle

      he isnt that good i dont even like that trade he hit 219 and all the coaches hated him i mean its good we didnt give up much but still swish aint that great and now we have his contract for 3 years

      • Steve

        I don’t know about all the coaches, but his manager certainly did.

        But lets face it, Ozzie Guillen is an asshole. Having him hate you should probably go in his “+” column.

        • Steve H

          Ozzie Guillen hates Nick Swisher.
          Nick Swisher hates Josh Beckett.

          Nick Swisher is the common thread in these 2 statements, I’m going to take Swisher’s side.

      • Ivan

        Yea he hit .219, but his BABIP was less than .250

        Plus, despite the offensive struggles he had over 80 BB’s and I think was in the top 3 in baseball in pitches per plate appearance. Ican certainly see him have a big year in 09.

        • Steve

          Maybe his BABIP was so low because he was making shitty contact. The difference between a soft line drive and a hard line drive is often the difference between a hit and an out. That stat isn’t all about luck, it can also tell you about how well he’s hitting the ball.

          On a side note, BABIP is more useful for pitchers than hitters, and yet most often you see people using it applied to hitters.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            That’s absolutely true and it’s entirely possible that Swisher’s bat has just slowed too much. Maybe he’s hiding and injury, maybe it’s just a mechanical flaw.

            It’s not often a 27yr old guy that has previously demonstrated the ability to hit major league pitcher just loses it, which is why eveyone’s banking on a rebound.

          • Ivan

            Yea but his LD% was higher in 08 than in 07 so it kinda indicate that bad luck was involed.

            Hey im not saying he’s a lock to bounce back but the potential is certainly there.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Is he better than Wilson Betemit? Yes. End of story.

        I think people don’t like the move just because they have one less thing to bitch about now.

        • Ed – sign CC immediately

          I will laugh if Ozzie decided to make Betemit as their 3B, and not giving Fields a chance.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Ozzie can’t be that dumb. I assume Fields gets the 3B gig, and Betemit replaces Uribe.

            • Ed – sign CC immediately

              true, Betemit could replace Uribe, but if Betemit has a hot spring training then Ozzie will give him the spot.

        • Steve

          If he was replacing Betemit, that would be a valid argument. But he’s replacing Giambi. So let me ask you the same question that you just posed-

          Is Swisher better than Jason Giambi?

          • Thomas

            If you count defense and baserunning, Swisher can equal Giambi’s worth. Assuming Swisher bounces back.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Of course not. But Giambi’s going to be 38 in a few months, and just came off a season in which he made more than the final three years on Swisher’s deal combined.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Sorry, Giambi made $21M last year, I thought it was $22M. So he made slightly less than the remaining three years on Swish’s deal.

              • Steve

                Throw in the 5 mil buyout and he made 26 mil this year.

                Damn, thats a LOT of fake mustaches right there.

        • E-ROC

          That and Swisher might be playing first base. Bust!

  • T-Dizzle

    I think damon should have gotten some votes for MVP

    • steve (different one)

      of course you do.

      • T-Dizzle

        what does that mean how can u not think so he tremendously hlped the yankees hes one of the biggest reasons we won 88 games

      • T-Dizzle

        here you go wise guy

        pedroia obp = 376
        damon obp = 375

        pedroia hr = 17
        damon hr = 17

        pedroia rbi = 83 batting 2nd and 3rd
        damon rbi = 71 hitting leadoff

        pedroia sb = 20
        damon sb = 29

        so if pedroia won u tellin me damon didnt even at least deserve SOME votes even for like 10th place or were u just making a jackass comment for no reason like u alwasy do??

        • Chris

          Damon’s not gritty enough.

  • Mike Pop

    I really hope Gardner can put up some decent numbers.. I hope he shows that he can play at this level.. Itd be nice to see him succeed so we could rely on him and not have a black hole in the lineup

    • Steve

      He has a huge supporter in the manager, and hit .294 for the month of August+September this year. He’ll get every chance to win the job out of Spring Training, and it doesn’t look like he’ll have much competition.

      But many Yankee fans had tuned them out already after the Red Sox took 2 of 3 at the stadium, so they missed it and still think he hit .161 for the season.

      • Steve H

        Ha! Love the last sentence. So true.

        • Steve

          People act like Gardner is some guy off the street who can run fast and won a job in camp. He was a 3rd round pick, so the Yanks must have liked a lot him for some reason. He also won “best plate discipline” in the Yankee system from BA last year.

          He’s always been a slow starter at each level, and most Yankee fans just have zero patience for rookies.

          • Old Ranger

            Your two paragraphs are music to my ears! The only thing you left out was “Instincts”, which is one of the things a player has or not…it can’t be taught. Brett will be just fine, if they give him the same chance they gave Melky. 27/09.

  • B.George

    Mike,

    Can you have a column on that moron Michael Kays hatred for Phil Hughes? Everytime I listen to his radio show and Phil Hughes name is brought up he trashes the living day lights out of him saying that he is the worst pitcher in the history of baseball and that he is a bust like some of these morons who post here write about. And there should be a drinking game on how many times Michael Kay brings up Joba Chamberlains name during Yankee broadcasts.

  • Reggie C.

    Lets say Tex re-signs with the LAA as cash doesn’t offer the highest top-dollar. Do you think that increases the chances that cash pursues an OF (adam dunn)?

    With cash seemingly disinterested in pursuing Manny or offering Tex a top-dollar AAS, does that increase the chances that we see somebody like Dunn in pinstripes? Is Dunn worth losing the type A draft picks?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Dunn’s a guy that will still be available in January I think. The D-Backs might not even offer him arbitration because they couldn’t afford it if he accepts, so he might not even cost a pick. He’ll also come relatively cheap, however he offers nothing defensively.

      • Steve

        Yeah, the D-Backs had to let Unit go and according to reports the other day they cut 10% of their office staff due to the economy.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          RJ was willing to take a 50% pay cut to stay with them, so he would have pitched for $5M in 2009. How do you not sign him at that price? You make the money work, trade Chad Tracy or Eric Byrnes for pennies on the dollar if you have too, it would be worth it.

          If RJ’s remotely as good as he was this year, he’s a steal at $5M.

          • steve (different one)

            maybe the Yankees should sign him. j/k.

            now THAT would be a fun day on RAB.

      • Reggie C.

        i’m just bringing up Dunn as a possibility b/c MLBTR had a blurb from the Star Ledger that Swisher will play almost exclusively as a 1B. The Star Ledger has got terrific coverage of the club, better than that tabloid Post.

        If there’s no Tex or Manny in the works, would you be cool with signing Dunn?

    • Steve

      Last thing we need is another corner OFer. I can see some people not liking Gardner, but we have RF/LF pretty set with Damon/Nady/Matsui and Swisher (if we sign Tex and he becomes a super sub).

  • Michael

    …….the calm before the storm………..”perhaps”

  • B.George

    Lets say Yanks are don’t want Brett or Melky as there starting CF…..what are some viable options?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Uhhh … Damon? As for free agents, there’s … ummm …. Endy Chavez? Maybe Mark Kotsay could play CF until he breaks down in June or July. They’re better off running Gardy out there and seeing what they have in him.

    • steve (different one)

      there isn’t much. Cameron perhaps if Sabathia signs elsewhere.

      if they signed Teixeira or Dunn, they could use Damon or Swisher in CF, at least part time.

      don’t see much else out there on the trade market, but you never know. things could get kooky at the Winter Meetings.

      • Mike Pop

        Grady Sizemore.. We’ll give em Hughes IPK Ajax Melky Zmac and Suttle…and that wouldnt do it

      • Reggie C.

        You’d have to trade for Cameron.

        Trade market … David DeJesus? I don’t know if anybody better is available.

        • Thomas

          Dayton Moore keeps saying DeJesus is not available, but that could be posturing.

          However, DeJesus is a mediocre centerfielder, which is why the Royals play him left, according to the coaches.

        • Steve H

          DeJesus isn’t any better in CF than Damon

          • B.George

            I shoulda included trade options to my question

            • B.George

              And Dejesus although not a great centerfielder is better then Damon in centerfield

    • Ivan

      Hey your gonna have to live with Gardner or Melky at CF. Hey if they can give ya premiun D and hit just enough you can live with it.

      • Mike Pop

        I say Endy Chavez.. You remember THE CATCH !

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          It’s fitting that the most popular and perhaps greatest defensive play in franchise history came in a game they lost to end their season.

          • Ivan

            You know what I remember most about that game, Wainwright just abusing Beltran with that Curveball to end the game and of course the series. Beautiful.

            • Mike Pop

              Knees buckling and all

  • Adam

    I’d have rather seen a Dunn signing as opposed to the Swish deal.

    • Mike Pop

      Lol… Idk how people hate the Swish deal.. We gave up nothing for him. Like seriously nothing at all..Knock on Wood..Marquez comes up next year and throws 2 no no’s

      • Steve H

        Only if Varitek signs with the White Sox!!

        • Mike Pop

          Your probably right.. Hopefully he doesnt go to either Chicago or Pittsburgh

    • steve (different one)

      i don’t get this. even if you want to sign Dunn, you should STILL make the Swisher trade.

      there was almost no cost in talent, and his contract is relatively small.

      if you are the Yankees, you make the trade and worry about where to play Swisher later.

      • Ivan

        Yea the Swisher was no brainer period.

      • Adam

        Oh, I don’t hate the Swish deal. It’s fine. But I will hate it if $$$$man uses it as an excuse, when there is none from a financial perspective, to not sign Mark Teixeira.

        • steve (different one)

          when there is none from a financial perspective

          says you.

          i am firmly in the sign Teixeira camp, don’t get me wrong, but none of us know 1) what Teixeira will sign for or 2) what the Yankees internally feel they can afford.

  • Mike Pop

    The Hancock commercial is great.. “Will Smith is the coolest superhero ever”… Did a 4 year old write that ?

    • Ivan

      He’s comin out with a new movie called “Seven Pounds”.

      I thought “I Am Legend” was a very good movie.

      • Mike Pop

        Bad BOys 1 and 2 I loved… Not comparing them to I am Legend or anything I just think they were great

        • Mike Pop

          Think they ARE great

        • Ivan

          Bad Boys was pretty cool.

          You eva saw I Am Legend?

          • Mike Pop

            NA havent seen it yet.. Gotta get around to it though.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I thought I Am Legend was solid, not great but not bad. Bad Boys 1 & 2 were awesome of course. The highlight of his career is Independence Day though, that was a megablockbuster.

          • Mike Pop

            Ya Independence Day was awesome… What about shark tale ? Haha

          • Ivan

            Didn’t “I Am Legend” was one of his most succesful movies money wise his career? I remember the opening week #’s for the movie were record highs.

            • Mike Pop

              I know man, my friends said it was awesome. I think I went to see Juno with my x girl around the same time it came out….. Man fuck that girl

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

                Heh, bitter much?

                Juno was awesome.

                • Mike Pop

                  Idk if I put it up there as awesome

          • Adam

            The highlight of his career is probably the Pursuit of Happyness from a content POV. For his wallet, it’s Hancock.

      • E-ROC

        Ali and I Robot weren’t bad either. I Am Legend was good too.

        • Ivan

          Outside of Wild Wild West, and maybe MIB 2, every movie Smith has done has been a big success. The dude just make blockbusters.

          • E-ROC

            Yeah, no doubt. Will Smith has that ‘it’ factor. He is one of my favorites along with Tom Cruise, Robert DeNiro, Robin Williams, Denzel Washington, George Clooney,……there are others, lol. Uh, Robert Downey Jr.

            • Ivan

              Michael Clayton was a very good movie with George Clooney.

              But I gotta say, What the fuck was Clooney thinkin when he put himself in that god awful “Bat and Robin” movie.

              • E-ROC

                Well, you know that stuff happens to best people like Robert DeNiro in the movie Showtime. Not many people would rebound from a movie like Batman and Robin. If anything, that bad movie emphasizes Clooney’s ability to act.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

                I thought Michael Clayton was excellent. I also just saw Casino for the first time, another gem.

        • Thomas

          Best Will Smith movie is Enemy of the State

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Nah yo, Hitch is where it’s at. ;)

            • E-ROC

              Eva Mendes!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!11!1

  • Ivan

    Yo im really lovin this new Ludacris song “One More Drink”. That song is mad hot and funny.

    • Mike Pop
      • Ivan

        You heard Jay-Z is comin out with Blueprint 3?

        • Mike Pop

          Ya I did.. Thought the dude was retired.. Wish Gangstarr would get back together.. Love their stuff

          • Ivan

            Jay can’t help it. I can’t wait for that album and also Em.

            Gangstarr and Premier need to do another album together.

            • E-ROC

              Hopefully, 50 Cent rebounds with this next album. Em is suppose to return with a new style. I can’t wait for that album. Stat Quo is suppose to come out along with Detox. Busta Rhymes comes next year too. Big year for the rap game.

              • Ivan

                Im not a 50 cent fan. I neva thought he was that nice of a rapper.

                Nevertheless, 50’s next album is huge for his career though considering that his last album “Curtis” sucked and Kanye West just destroyed him in album sales when 50 was talkin shit and etc.

                • Mike Pop

                  50 already has mad dough.. Hes not too worried lol

            • Mike Pop

              Jay-Z is def real good no doubt.. King Mathers is EM’s new one right ? I hope he goes back to his old style a bit

              • Ivan

                Nah his new album is called Relaspe.

              • Andy In Sunny Daytona

                When’s the new UTFO album gonna drop?

  • steve (different one)

    newsday:

    The Blue Jays already have offered a four-year, $54-million deal to retain Burnett, according to the Toronto Star. The Yankees’ offer is expected to top the Blue Jays’ in average annual value. However, a source shot down a report that the Yankees would offer five years and $80 million. They will not make an opening bid of more than four years or anywhere near $80 million, the source said.

    OMG CASHMAN IS TEH SUCKS!!111!! I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY WENT $80M FOR 5 YEARS!111!!

    signed,
    every yankee fan on earth 6 hours ago

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Oh thank God.

    • Mike Pop

      I had a funny feeling George King wasnt accurate.. I still think hes a yank tho

    • E-ROC

      I just hope Burnett isn’t a Yank.

      • Mike Pop

        Sox are going for Burnett too now huh

        • steve (different one)

          how is that possible? Theo is a genius and Cashman is a moron. yet signing Burnett can’t be both smart AND stupid.

          • Mike Pop

            Anything Theo Einstein does is pure genious.. Him being GM is unfair for the rest of the league because he has genetic abilities of the gods

  • Phil Franchise

    What pitchers are out there that could be had via trade? Maybe those who’s value is down. Eric Bedard was being floated mid-season after a very subpar introductions to the AL West. With new leadership in Seattle could they be looking for a fresh start?

    What about a Dontrelle Willis project? I’ve heard the Sox have an interest in him. He strikes me as someone who Eiland and his minor league staff could get back into form.

    I’d love to see Cashman return to his late 90s roots of finding undervalued talent (O’Neil, Brosious, Tino, etc). I think Swisher could be along these lines, but would love to snag a pitcher who could round out the rotation nicely without breaking the bank or sacrificing the farm.

    Thoughts??

    • steve (different one)

      most of the bullpen was constructed this way. Aceves could maybe fit this definition.

      the only other way to get a starter on the cheap is probably to sign a guy coming off an injury. someone like Colon maybe.

    • Mike Pop

      Bedard no good.. He wont be back till midseason I believe

    • T-Dizzle

      tino oneill both came way before cashman was gm but i like dontrelle we should get him and try to get him back to cy young form

  • Mike Pop
  • T-Dizzle

    for steve different one

    pedroia obp = 376
    damon obp = 375

    pedroia hr = 17
    damon hr = 17

    pedroia rbi = 83 batting 2nd and 3rd
    damon rbi = 71 hitting leadoff

    pedroia sb = 20
    damon sb = 29

    so if pedroia won u tellin me damon didnt even at least deserve SOME votes even for like 10th place or were u just making a jackass comment for no reason like u alwasy do??

    • Steve H

      So your argument may prove that Pedroia shouldn’t have won it. But Damon would have been 3rd on the Yankees, a non-playoff team. Name your Top 10, Damon should be nowhere near top 10.

      • T-Dizzle

        it is that pedroia shouldnt have won it what i am saying is that there are several players on a lot of teams (damon) that had extremely similar numbers that nobody even thought about
        i guess my point is that if a guy like pedroia finsishes 1st then a guy like damon should at the very least get some 10th place voets

        • Steve H

          No, because there are way more than 10 players ahead of Damon on the MVP list. Just because the writers make 1 (or several) mistakes doesn’t mean the whole vote will be a mistake. The #’s you have are close (but limited). Pedroia was a better player. So were A-Rod, Abreu, Youk, Sizemore, Longoria, Mauer, Morneau, Quentin, Kinsler, Hamilton, etc, etc, etc.

    • steve (different one)

      2B. LF.

      please stop.

      • steve (different one)

        so if pedroia won u tellin me damon didnt even at least deserve SOME votes even for like 10th place or were u just making a jackass comment for no reason like u alwasy do??

        yes, i was just making a jackass comment AS USUAL, but i admit that i thought you meant Damon should have gotten some FIRST PLACE votes.

        which is absurd.

        but now that you clarified, i take it back.

  • http://Greg Greg P

    Say no to Dontrelle. For whatever reason, the Tigers gave him a 3 or 4 year extension above market value. He’d just be a Pavano-like albatross.

    • Steve H

      Unless we could dump an albatross contract back on them, which we have a lot less of than we used to.

      • T-Dizzle

        igawa

        • Colombo

          compared to dontrelle’s contract, igawa’s is nothing…no comparison…

          the simple truth is that we don’t really have any albatross contracts anymore…hopefully jorgie comes back strong and we don’t regret that one, but until then, we’re clear…

  • B.George

    Im not saying I want this but you do you think are the odds of Pettite not re-signing and an open competion for the 5th rotation spot?

    Cause I have a feeling this is going to happen

    • Phil Franchise

      I know it’s probably the minority, especially b/c i LOVE Pettite, but i think that ship may have sailed. With Mussina likely out there could well be a competition… that or a big incentive laden deal for Sheets (who i have always liked and would like to see the Yanks make a run at).

  • http://Greg Greg P

    I’d have no problem with Phil, IPK, the Mexican Gangster, and Giese fighting it out for the 5th spot. At least one of them would prove to be an adequate 5th starter.

  • Mike Pop

    Id rather see Lowe in a red sox uni than Burnett

    • T-Dizzle

      he already was… when we lost gaem 7….

      • Mike Pop

        Really ? …jus playin.. I just think Burnett would be better for them than Lowe would be now… Id rather have us face Lowe than Burnett ya know what I mean

        • T-Dizzle

          cuz we cant hit brnett for reasons i cant rfigure out cuz the rest of the league does ok against him

    • http://Greg Greg P

      Then the Sox could throw one-year-plus-option deals at Pavano and Penny to recreate that 03′ magic from south Florida.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Where’s Mark Redman when you need him? what about Ugueth Urbina? Oh wait …

        Heh, remember the Pudge-Urbina kiss?

        http://tinyurl.com/5nw582

        • Thomas

          Did you know Urbina’s full name is Ugueth Urtain Urbina? Quite possibly the worst name ever.

        • Steve H

          Kinda funny to think the guy in that picture was later charged with attempted murder.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

            Not just charged, convicted.

      • Steve H

        Of course Burnett, shockingly enough, was injured that year. But there are the Willis rumors as well. And who owned that team? Sox owner John (Mr. Burns) Henry himself.