All signs point to surgery for A-Rod

Open Thread: Friday Randomness
CC strong as Yanks tame Tigers

A-Rod StretchingJust yesterday it looked like Alex Rodriguez would be going the rest and rehab route for his ailing hip, avoiding, at least temporarily, the worst case scenario of four-plus months on the shelf with surgery. But tonight, all of a sudden things don’t sound so promising. From PeteAbe:

Alex underwent more tests today and supposedly planned to throw and even hit in a cage out in Colorado. Then he will take a day or two to decide what to do, in consultation with the Yankees.

The sense I get from talking to people both in Tampa and elsewhere is that Alex will be having the surgery and it would be as soon as Monday. The Yankees are fearful of his trying to play and then having to come out of the lineup.

The most damning quote came from Joe Girardi, who, when asked if surgery was a possibility, said “That’s a determination Alex and the doctors have to make. The organization will continue to discuss it with both parties. But yeah, there is a possibility.”It certainly seems that surgery is a much greater possibility today than it was yesterday.

Basically, the advantage of having surgery now is that A-Rod gets a month head start on rehab, which could possibly have him back on the field in June or July, and that the issue is addressed right away. I’m no doctor, but it would seem that playing through the injury could lead to even more damage, something no one wants a part of, obviously. The team will have a month to acquire a stopgap, whether it be a trade or free agent signing, and basically not have to worry if their best player could go down for the season at any moment.

During the chat earlier today I said I was in favor of A-Rod having the surgery now, and I still am. I just think it’s best that he gets this entire thing taken care of and behind him as soon as possible. Based on what we heard tonight, it looks like Alex may be leaning that way as well.

Update (11:06pm): This is what I get for writing a post two hours in advance. Brian Cashman said no surgery has been scheduled yet, and as of right now all parties involved are trying to develop a course of action.

Photo Credit: Mitch Stringer/CSM

Open Thread: Friday Randomness
CC strong as Yanks tame Tigers
  • the curse of …..

    shaking my head

    • celerinosanchez

      How are we going to beat the Royals without him? I’d come back and play but I’ve been dead for 16 years. I do think Rich McKinney is still in pretty good shape.

  • steve (different one)

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge!

    Only I didn’t say “Fudge.” I said THE word, the big one, the queen-mother of dirty words, the “F-dash-dash-dash” word!

    • pat

      haha beautiful ralphie.

  • Rich

    Whatever is in the team’s and A-Rod’s best interests beyond just the next three or four months of the regular season is what should guide their decision making process.

    Although replacing A-Rod’s production is virtually impossible, this problem has been made worse because the Yankees don’t have any ML ready position prospects, and they have been poor at bench construction. So what I don’t want to see is the Yankees burn top prospects to fill a temporarily hole, thereby setting them back in their goal of building up the mL system.

    If A-Rod is out for four months, the other players will have to (over)compensate for his absence until he gets back.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    A-DRIAN BEL-TRE!
    *clap clap clap-clap-clap*
    A-DRIAN BEL-TRE!
    *clap clap clap-clap-clap*

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
      • Rich

        The Mariners’ price will likely be waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high.

        • A.D.

          You take on the whole salary, it wont be too bad, they pretty much are trying to blow up any vet that isnt Ichiro. They probably want to see if Tuiasasopo will sink or swim

          • Rich

            I’m opposed to giving up Hughes, Brackman, Melancon, A-Jack, Romine, Montero, or Betances under ANY circumstances.

            I disagree with your assessment, but I’d like to be wrong.

            • A.D.

              None of those players would be traded for 1 year of Adrian Beltre

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Exactly. We’re talking about a 12M salary dump. No prospect north of the IPK/Aceves stratosphere would remotely be included in this deal.

                • A.D.

                  IPK, Aceves, or Kontos should be the “centerpiece” + a random 40 man bullpen arm that would help us to clear space.

                • steve (different one)

                  don’t forget that Beltre is currently a Type A.

                  yes, he shouldn’t cost any of the Yankees top top prospects, but i would expect a trade to sting a little.

                  it’s 4 weeks before the season starts and Beltre is their starting 3Bman. yes, the Mariners are going to suck, but teams don’t just give up before the season starts. to make them trade a starter, you are going to have to make it worthwhile. it’s basically telling your fans you are punting on the season.

                  the Mariners can easily afford Beltre’s salary. they don’t have to move him. this isn’t the Marlins or the Royals.

                  this isn’t going to be the Abreu deal all over again, when the Yankees send Eric Duncan and Michael Dunn. it’s going to cost actual talent.

                  IPK may be a starting point. i don’t see why the Mariners would be remotely interested in Aceves. they would probably prefer to take their chances at the deadline or take a shot at the two draft picks.

                • A.D.

                  On the money MLBTR had reported during the offseason that the Mariners do want to move salary & move one of the Beltre/Washburn/Batista contracts. Maybe that was for offseason moves that now cannot be made, but since they haven’t moved any contracts I’d guess they still want to.

    • A.D.

      Cantu/McPherson could be a nice cheap option

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Cantu and McPherson both make peanuts. Beltre makes 12M. I’m guessing the Mariners are more motivated sellers (although I could certainly be wrong) than the Marlins.

        Add in the fact that the Mariners are already out of contention and rebuilding and the Marlins are planning on competing for the NL East. Oh, and Beltre >>>>>>>> Cantu and McPherson.

        It’s possible, but if I’m Cash, I get Jack Zduriencik on the phone first.

        • A.D.

          I agree, Beltre is the better option… Cantu and McPherson would have to come with a bad contract of the Marlins one would guess, though I don’t know if they have many of those.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    I never had any negative thoughts of Cashman until now. Seriously does he want A-Rod getting hurt more? If A-Rod gets surgery now he’ll be back nearly 100 percent in June or July. We can hold up until then. That’s why YOU bought CC and AJ.
    Risking it now could potentially make things worse and A-Rod is going to DH, and get out of games early, he won’t be effective. Surgery is needed ASAP.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Cashman isn’t saying “Fuck you, ARod, I don’t care if you’re hurt and you and your doctor want surgery, I’M RUNNING YOUR SORRY ASS OUT THERE TO GET A RETURN ON MY INVESTMENT, PUSSY!!!”

      Cashman said “no surgery is scheduled yet. We’re looking at options.”

      Calm down.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        And I never said “HOLY SHIT! SUM1 FIRE CASHMAN! HE WANTS A-ROD TO FUCKING DIE! FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE!!!!!!!11111ONE.” The only thing I’m stating is that surgery now is a better option. And Cashman said before he wants to take the rehab route instead of the surgery.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          You said: “I never had any negative thoughts of Cashman until now.”

          And you still shouldn’t have any negative thoughts about Cashman, because he hasn’t said anything wrong. Cashman said he wants to take the rehab route rather than surgery because the initial medical reports said it could be handled with rest and rehab and there was no long-term risk. The reports now seem to be saying something different, and so Cashman is stating that they’re reviewing it.

          Cashman hasn’t said anything indicative of a team desire or philosophy to expose Alex to any undue risk. You’re overreacting to a nothing statement that is meaningless and open-ended.

          • JobaWockeeZ

            Lol? The negative thoughts I had about him were doubts. I doubt everyone, I’m pessimistic. I always think the worst. Maybe he knew about this since the stiffness started at the closing of last season? So, sorry for having an opinion.

            And the only thing I said is that there is risk involved in the rehab route. It could even make things worse for him and as a fan I don’t want that to happen so yeah I’m going to overreact. I’m sorry for caring.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Oh forgot to put that I epically failed to give up sarcasm for lent so now that last sentence is now literal. kthxbai

    • Rich

      The Yankees aren’t going to stand in the way of A-Rod’s decision.

    • A.D.

      Im sure they’re getting multiple opinions to make the right determination, we really have no proof the front office is looking to put A-Rod in a position where he could be hurt more. Pavano they wanted to get something out of the end of that contract, A-rod has all kinds of years left.

  • the curse of …..

    im starting to think this is a story to get the roids put into the past arod plays hurt! hits only35 hrs

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      [ facepalm ]

  • Harsh

    Hey, i don’t know if anyone noticed, but the Yanks have two propects playing for Team China. Liu Kai who pitched an inning of shut out ball against China. And Zhang Zhangweng, a catcher, who’s 0 for 3 so far but has started both games and threw out a runner in the 1st inning.

    • Reggie C.

      this aint the open thread. its the demise of the 2009 season and you bring up the names of a couple Chinese non-prospects??

  • the curse of …..

    could be a charlie hayes daze type year

  • RJ324

    Get the surgery, it is for the best. A-Rod is a big part of this team not just for this season, but for 8 more after. Don’t ruin someone you are paying butt loads for a win now move. Get the surgery and hope you can ride the storm out until he is healthy. Why wait for the inevitable? At least now you can make your own destiny and not have to worry about him crapping out in a few months and have to settle with Ransom at third.

  • A.D.

    Let Chris Malec straight rake

  • http://RBIRADIO.BLOGSPOT.COM Joey H

    Now is it reasonable to consider Beltre a possibility or is it just anxious blog comment speculation?

    • Tom Zig

      I’d welcome Beltre and his 13.4 UZR/16.8 UZR 150.

      Could this actually be a real IPK + Melky for (insert player name here) deal?

      • Reggie C.

        I highly doubt Beltre comes that cheap. I just think a needier offensive squad would’ve been able to pull that off, if the cost of Beltre was a bottom of the order pitcher and 4th OF.

        CHAD TRACY anyone??

  • http://nyyankeesrumors.com/ Zell

    This is getting interesting. I wonder what changes will be made to the lineup if he opts for surgery. For those fans saying that the Yankees are better off w/o Alex..how can you possibly say that? You may not like the things he says, or you don’t like him because he cheated the game, BUT..he is still one of the best players in the game today. Losing a player like him will definitely deliver a hit to the lineup. You really can’t replace his production.

    BTW..for those interested…I just got a New Yankee Stadium Construction Photo Update up on my site:

    http://nyyankeesrumors.com/new-yankee-stadium-construction-photo-update-3709/

    Zell

  • mustang

    Wow… so much for the pre seasons predictions.
    This one hurts.

  • Reggie C.

    So we’re essentially looking at Alex missing 3 months of play?? Mike A. said it himself that the AL east has 3 potential 90 win teams. Right now, without Alex in the lineup … we’re ranked #3.

  • Rich

    FWIW:

    The Record’s Pete Caldera:

    We also spoke to someone today, who spoke with A-Rod in the past 24 hours, who believes that Rodriguez will decide to play on. The fact that he had no pain, and his increased flexibility since the cyst was drained, might make all the difference. But A-Rod and the Yankees are still in a fact-finding mode.

  • Jeremy

    Posada had better be healthy this year.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Let’s enter Steven Colbert’s Doom Bunker: Here’s the scenario:

    It’s July.

    -During a March rehab session, ARod’s labrum tears completely off his hip, and he now walks like Greg Oden. He’s out indefinitely.

    -In an act of desperation, on opening day, the team trades Phil Hughes, Jesus Monteroplay, Mark Melancon, and Arodys Vizcaino to the Blue Jays for 3B Scott Rolen. In his first game, Rolen dives for a ground ball awkwardly and his labrum tears completely off his hip. He retires the following day.

    -Jeter has the worst herpes outbreak in recorded human history, and he’s batting .102/.103/.104 and committing two errors a night at shortstop.

    -Mark Teixeira is in the worst slump of his career, because his wife is constantly nagging him about how much she hates the shops on 5th Avenue and he can’t concentrate.

    -AJ Burnett and Jorge Posada have both re-torn their rotator cuffs in a lockerroom fight where CC Sabathia and Mariano Rivera both end up with serious concussions. They are all out indefinitely.

    -Robinson Cano is still a lazy Dominican.

    -While on a road trip through Tampa Bay, Hideki Matsui spots Madonna in the stands and the two of them strike up a conversation, and go out to dinner that night. They are never seen again.

    -Frankie Cervelli and Cody Ransom are tied for the team league in homers, with 3.

    -Matt Joyce and Jacoby Ellsbury are co-MVP’s of the All-Star game, both hitting grand-slam home runs (each their third of the game) in the 8th inning against the Yankees only All-Star representative, Al Aceves.

    -The New Yankee Stadium has been condemned by the Buildings Department, because all of the support beams are tested and found to be 12% aluminum and 88% carmelized Boston Baked Beans. Since destruction of the old stadium has already begun, the team is currently playing home games at the Newark Bears stadium. As part of a condition of the agreement to lease the Bears’s stadium, the team has been forced to add Jose and Ozzie Canseco to the roster.

    -Hal and Hank flight to Tampa to visit their father was rerouted through the Atlantic due to a violent storm and disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle. Randy Levine is now in charge of everything.

    -The Yankees are in last place, 29.5 games back of the Rays and Sox, who are tied for the best record in baseball at the break (in history) and 26 games back of the newly revitalized Blue Jays, whose co Cy-Young frontrunners Roy Halladay and Phil Hughes both lead the league with perfect 15-0 records and sub 1.00 ERAs.

    -The US Congress is full of werewolves.

    What do we do?

    • Nady Nation

      Blame the curse of A-Fraud.

    • Tom Zig

      Quick turn off the console before the settings are saved!

      What would be so bad about the US Congress being full of werewolves? Might make C-SPAN easier to watch.

    • Jeremy

      Spooky, scary.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Jager.

      -Dave Attell

  • Troy

    I just want ARod to have the friggin surgery now. Rather have him healthy long-term (hip-wise anyway) than risk more long-term damage.

  • http://www.myspace.com/sloanbruno69 Bruno

    Surgery and 60-day-DL right now and sign Grudz. His .300/.330/.400 line would be better than anything Ransom/Berroa/Pena would put up.

    Damon
    Jeter
    Cano
    Tex
    Matsui
    Swisher/Nady
    Posada
    Grudz
    Gardner

  • MikeD

    Shouldn’t the Yankees be using spring training to put 3B gloves on the Nady and Swisher to see if one of them might be able to fill in for a few months? It’s not ideal, but if A-Rod goes down for the first three months, the Yankees should be looking at all options, and their current in-house options are not good, unless we all want to embrace the Rocky story of Cody Ransom.

    Swisher has played both the outfield and infield at RF, CF and 1B, so it’s not as if he’s a one-position player. Nady is more of an OFer, but he’s also done some infield work, including at least one game at third.

    If either is passable, it might be the best option.

  • toad

    Wonder what the insurance situation is on this? That sounds kind of cold, I guess, but if Cashman is going to talk in financial terms about assets and so on it’s worth asking.

    Do teams have insurance against long-term injuries?