The Joba we know

Shades of 2003
Getting a return on a wasted investment

Performance issues in Spring Training are easy to write-off as no big deal*. Joba didn’t record an out against Team Canada? No sweat. It was only March fifth. That’s something for Future Joe to get worked up over. But what if Joba struggled against the Reds last night? Given my track record — I said not to get worked up over Hughes’s poor spring last year — I’d have continued not sweating, but there definitely would have been cause for concern. That’s not the case thankfully, as Joba tossed an efficient three innings.

He was so efficient, in fact, that in three innings he couldn’t get to his target pitch count. He needed just 29 to down the Reds, striking out three in the process. Stuff-wise Joba looked fine. He eased into his fastball, hitting low 90s in the first inning before ratcheting it up a few mph in the next two. His slider didn’t seem to have a ton of bite, but he got a couple of strikeouts with it, including a knee-buckling called strike three. It wasn’t Joba vs. Beckett good, but Joba’s performance quelled the murmur of concern surround him.

Phil Coke looked solid in his two innings of work, striking out three allowing three hits, and picking Brandon Phillips off first. He was hitting low 90s, a couple 93s on the gun, which is impressive to say the least. Igawa followed that up with two scoreless, two-strikeout frames. Chris Garcia struck out two and walked one in an inning, and Anthony Claggett finished things off with two strikeouts in a scoreless ninth.

On the offensive side of the ball, sure-to-be-optioned Juan Miranda crushed a homer to right center in the fourth, and Shelley Duncan hit his second of the spring in the seventh. Brett Gardner helped his case with two hits, though he did get caught trying to take second and he misplayed a liner right at him (tough sledding). Hideki scored from second on a single, Ramiro Pena picked up a double, and Jesus Montero went 1 for 1. It was a good day for both the offense and the pitching.

Plenty of folks watched Team Netherlands upset Team Dominican Republic last night, which means Robinson Cano should be back in camp in the next couple of days. Kevin Russo, please claim your spot in minor league camp. There’s little chance Cano will be around for tomorrow afternoon’s game against Detroit, but he could be back in the lineup Friday against Boston.

It was tough not to enjoy the game last night. If camp broke today, you’d have to believe Gardner and Coke would be heading north with the team. They’re really impressing this Spring. Now they’ll have to keep doing it for the next three weeks.

* That’s what she said!

Shades of 2003
Getting a return on a wasted investment
  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    Don’t forget Marte! :P

  • dkidd

    how humiliated are the d.r. players? crazy crazy upset

    • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

      I think the fact that Netherlands did it twice is so amazing.

      • donttradecano

        didnt the dutch only score 2 earned runs the whole tournament? i thought i heard them say that on sportscenter

    • jsbrendog

      haha i looooooooooooooooove seeing jose reyes lose. cant wait to see his “holy shit we blew it in september AGAIN?!11!!xdzc!1!!??!1!?!!” face when putz/k-rod blows it

  • http://statspeak.net dan

    What’s the asterisk in the first sentence for?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Damn! I blew my own joke.

      • http://statspeak.net dan

        haha, nice job.

      • Brian

        Great “The Office” reference. i usually like to add “Giggidy Giddidy” to the end of all my “Thats what she/he said” jokes…

        LOL

  • Pastafarian

    Dominican Republic didn’t have A-rod for the tourny and the Yankees won’t have him for a month, so I just hope the Yankees don’t show their bats as poorly as the Dominicans did without him.

    • dkidd

      as long as were not playing a collection of scrappy dutchmen we should be okay

      • Alan

        No wonder the pitching from The Netherlands was awesome, Bert Blyleven is their pitching coach.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          No wonder the entire team from The Netherlands was awesome, HENSLEY “BAM BAM” MEULENS IS THEIR BENCH COACH.

      • donttradecano

        they are pretty gritty, wed never stand a chance

  • yankeefan 91

    tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    well im tired of u making a big deal of how i speak my English what i have to be perfect just to please u i really dont care what u think of me if im telling u that my English isn’t perfect u don’t have to go on and on with it just move on don’t read what i have to write and focus on sum one else.

    • barry

      That guys a prankster don’t worry about it bro. The dude’s always bustin on everyone.

    • anonymous

      u go gurl

    • Drew

      Dude, it’s not just him. I completely respect people that try English and are not as fluent in it as they are in another language. However, You must know “u” is you and “i” is I. I mean we’re not asking a person that doesn’t speak English to rewrite The Constitution, just try some punctuation.

    • Joey

      DAMN YOU TSJC A/K/A MR. SNARKY IRRELEVANT NON-SEQUITUR JONES! (or something like that)

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      You don’t have to be perfect. You just have to look like you at least give half a shit.

      I’m not asking you to be a Rhodes scholar. I am asking you to not make your comments unreadable by just mixing in a period and a comma here and there.

      Reading you is like talking to a guy with marbles in his mouth. If you listen hard you can make it out, but after a few hours it gets annoying as shit and you just want the guy to take the damn marbles out of his mouth and talk like a normal person.

      • andrew

        Not to mention, the ability to punctuate is very similar in Spanish and English, so there’s no reason why he can’t do it.

        • Grant

          You really care what Mr Snark aka Perpetually Unfunny Guy says about how you speak english?

          Get over it.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I’m not the only one annoyed by it.

          • UWS

            Actually, I was the one who raised this issue last night. Anyone over the age of 5 has to be irritated as shit over it by now. How hard is it to type out “you” and put a period after each sentence? It’s not as if Spanish lacks punctuation marks, or uses them differently!

            He can speak any way he wants, but if he wants people to read his comments and take him seriously, he’s got to make a modicum of an effort. Else people will just ignore him.

            • Grant

              So ignore him. Stop crying about it.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

                Stop changing your handle.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  BUSTED.

  • dkidd

    anyone else notice “bam bam” meulens coaching for the netherlands?

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Wow, working The Office and How I Met Your Mother into one post? Kudos.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Which part is from The Office?

      • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

        “That’s what she said!”

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

          Well, I mean, the saying has been around just a little bit longer than The Office.

          • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

            Oh, I know.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            [Peter and Brian are building a crib]
            Brian: “Insert Rod Support A into Slot B.”
            Peter: “That’s what–”
            Brian: “If you say ‘That’s what she said’ again, I’m going to pop you.”

  • Reggie C.

    Did anybody bother watching Chris Garcia’s inning? How did he look? How hard was he throwing? He’s arguably the 2nd most talented pitcher in the entire farm (behind Brax).

    • http://mvn.com/milb-yankees Eric

      I wasn’t watching, but according to some Lohud posters (I know) he was hitting 92 with the fastball, and got his strikeouts via the changeup which looked very good.

    • Rich

      I thought he looked really good. I was particularly impressed by his change up.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I was flipping back and forth, but you can see what all the fuss is about. Very live fastball, lots of movement, and his change was filthy. Curve wasn’t there yet.

      • Grant

        Using Lohud posters as your research?

        Wow.

        I’m shocked they didn’t have him at 110mph with a 12-6 curve and a biting slider.

    • rbizzler

      I was impressed with the amount of action on his fastball. Obviously, his change looked superb as well. I didn’t realize how wiry he was and how many ‘moving parts’ there were to his delivery (cliche, I know). I am looking forward to seeing him progress this year.

  • josh

    garcia looked very good. fastball at 90-92. seemed to be missing down and away with the fastball a little. the pitch he seemed to go to often was the splitter/change ( i am not sure what it was but it had a nasty downward break and made a couple of guys look foolish -btw cone wasnt sure what it was either but sade his grip looked maybe like a change up. if anybody has a better idea of the pitch please post it) i was also imprssed with ajax – he looks legit. i understand the granderson comps although maybe not quite as fast

    • Drew

      I saw the same pitch. I don’t know what it was but it was offspeed and had a lot of downward movement. He definetly has good stuff.

  • josh

    after looking at grandersons sb’s maybe i am overating his speed

    • Grant

      Good speed doesn’t always translate into stolen bases.

  • Infamous

    It’s really not fair how easily Joba can hit 90mph with his fastball.

  • Angel

    CHOKE!!-DR!!

    Mike read the mail please!!

  • Yankeegirl49

    That WBC game was fun to watch. Is it bad I was hoping for the DR to lose…so I can see Cano when I head to Fla for Fri and Sat’s game?

    • jsbrendog

      does this mean you were somehow rooting FOR sidney ponson?

  • A.D.

    Looks like Girardi went to Joba and said if you have another bad outing, we’re putting you back in the 8th inning.

    • donttradecano

      joba just didnt wanna hear francessa kicking and screaming

  • steve (different one)

    just to start the debate, Igawa looked pretty non-terrible last night.

    his fastball was down in the zone, which is the key for him, and he threw some nice off-speed pitches.

    i wonder if the Yankees were not wrong in their assessment that he could fill out the back end of a major league rotation, they just picked the wrong division to import him into.

    i could see him having success outside of the AL East.

    • A.D.

      Some more quality innings, maybe he gets his value up where someone claims him on waivers

    • http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9273/immagineus7.jpg Mike Pop

      In San Diago.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        I second that.

        • http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9273/immagineus7.jpg Mike Pop

          Igawa for Teahen.

          • Grant

            This isn’t a debate.

            Igawa is terrible and spring results and career minor leaguers means nothing.

            The guy doesnt have the stuff to compete in the big leagues. That’s it. Theres no debate.

            • UWS

              He may not have the stuff to compete for the Yankees. However, it’s entirely possible that some team in the NL may become interested. We’re not asking for Pujols in return here!

              Also, it’s pretty silly to be so absolute about anything. You never know what can happen or what stupid thing some GM may do.

            • steve (different one)

              The guy doesnt have the stuff to compete in the big leagues. That’s it. Theres no debate.

              thank God you were here to settle that.

              it’s much better than having a nuanced discussion about the differences in leagues, ballparks, etc.

              keep up the analysis!

  • http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9273/immagineus7.jpg Mike Pop

    But Joe….Joba gave up 3 hits, 3 HITS!!! He cannot be a starter, he would of only gave up one hit and struck 2 out in the 8ht Inning!!!

    • Yankee1010

      Agreed. He should only be limited to one inning, approximately 60 times a year.

      /John Harper, George King, Mike Francesca, et al.

      • http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9273/immagineus7.jpg Mike Pop

        Impact more games!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          More is more than less is.

          Q.E.D.

        • Yankee1010

          Yep. Getting 3 outs with a 3 run lead is the most impossible task in the world. Only Joba can do that.

          On the bright side, knowing that there are people dumb enough to actually think Joba belongs in the pen is fulfilling in a Darwinist way.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            When the apocalyptic nuclear winter comes, we’ll all have plenty to eat, because there’s no way Mike Francesa and the other B-Jobbers are smart enough to stay alive without modern technology and daily instructions from television.

        • Grant

          Now set up men are important but look at it from a financial standpoint.

          Sabathia is making 20+. Even average starters make 10+.

          The best reliever on the market made 12. Set up men make nothing. Cruz could barely find a job.

          It’s obvious what GM’s value more.

          • jsbrendog

            and what overweight radio personalities value mroe as well

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              The three best things in the world:
              1) Sandwiches
              2) Joba in the bullpen
              3) Nate McLouth

              Sincerely,
              Mike Francesa

              • UWS

                1a) Diet Coke.

  • Cor Shep

    Why do they invite players on the 40-man that stand no chance of making the team? If it costs options, why waste them for 2 weeks of big league exposure – and by the time they pitch in the game, they’re facing AA and AAA hitters/pitchers anyway. Explanation?

    • steve (different one)

      the explanation is that it doesn’t “cost options” to pitch in spring training with the big club.

  • http://www.babeslovebaseball.com Sooze

    Thanks for the link love, Joe!

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