May
03

Nady to have experimental procedure on elbow

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Via PeteAbe, Xavier Nady will have an experimental procedure performed on his elbow in an effort to hasten his return from injury. It’s the same procedure Takashi Saito underwent last year, and is designed to repair the partial torn ligament by injecting platelet-rich plasma directly into the elbow. Ben pondered the validity of the procedure last month, pointing out that it’s not too far removed from injecting human growth hormone. Whatever you think, hopefully it helps Nady come back soon, Mo knows they could use the extra depth.

Feel free to use this as your open thread. The ChiSox and Rangers play later on tonight.

Categories : Asides, Injuries, Open Thread

229 Comments»

  1. Moshe Mandel says:

    Considering steroids dont really bother me, Im fine with this. let’s get him back on the field.

  2. I really wish Nolasco would stop sucking. He’s killing my fantasy teams.

  3. pat says:

    You’re welcome, Justin Verlander.

  4. Drew says:

    Looks like we have no specific dates yet. I’d love to when this will happen, I’d imagine sometime this week, that said, how long will it take to recover? I’d imagine it almost impossible to estimate considering X is only the second guy to have this done.

  5. Yankee1010 says:

    I give Roberts and Gammons 36 hours before they say that Nady is cheating.

  6. E-ROC says:

    Cool stuff. Lets find the cure for cancer and paralysis.

  7. dkidd says:

    in a few years, the line that separates cheating and “natural talent” will be blurred forever. if you can genetically program a fetus for greater muscle density, is that cheating? thank goodness bud selig will be the one to lead baseball into this brave new world

    • steve (different one) says:

      if you can genetically program a fetus for greater muscle density, is that cheating?

      that’s pretty much what happened to me, and i don’t consider myself a cheater.

      of course i am only competing at looking awesomely ripped.

  8. A.D. says:

    Guess the Yankees are now getting their medical advice off RAB.

    • Rich says:

      After the seemingly unnecessary delay in correctly treating Wang, that may be a welcome development.

  9. I still can’t believe Crawford stole six bases….

    Also, I am so bored right now that even thigns that normally excite me don’t. I just spent forty minutes watching this http://d2xm3akt98wlh.cloudfron.....lm-low.htm

  10. A.D. says:

    Strasburg piece on ESPN right now.

    • Rich says:

      A small excerpt from Olney’s column:

      [Gwynn said:] “He’s further along at 20 than any young pitcher I’ve ever seen. I didn’t see some of the great, great ones, but for a 20-year-old junior to be out there recognizing that they’re cheating on the fastball and just drop that slider right on them, then a change-up and then a 99 (mph fastball) on the black …”

      • Raul says:

        That article in SI. Said that his arm may not be completely maxed out yet and he may be able to get to 105 although not consistently. It also says that he has a 36″ vertical jump. Dwight Howard has a 37″ (Also according to SI)

  11. Robb says:

    Platelet rich plasma is not anything close to steroids or growth hormone. it requires taking the person’s own blood separating the parts of the blood by centrifuge and then injecting some of the isolated parts into the areas you wish to stimulate healing in. it is a new procedure but has been used around the country for various treatments for at least 2 years now.

    • pat says:

      It’s the same idea as steroids. You’re taking a substance made by the body, isolating it and intravenously injecting it at a higher proportion than it is created by the body.

    • Zack says:

      HGH and steroids were once “a new procedure”

  12. Baseballnation says:

    I vote that the Yankees push for injecting platelet-rich plasma directly into Wang’s foot…

  13. Moshe Mandel says:

    I’m curious about the other blogs people here read, Yankees and Baseball related. Wondering if I am missing any. BBTF, baseballmusings, THT, Baseball analysts, fangraphs, minor league ball, biz of baseball, beyond the boxscore, driveline, mlbtr, Jennings, Ashmore, the local reporters. Then fan blogs: RAB, waswatching, my own (theyankeeuniverse), iYankees, banter, stadium insider, and RLYW. Occasionally rebecca’s blog, and Fack youk. Anyone else wanna run through their list?

    • Thanks. I think =P.

      I read LoHud, RAB, Baseball Musings, Pride of the Yankees, MLBTR and NSI on a regular basis.

      Other ones I read on a semi-regular basis: Scott Proctor’s Arm, IATMS, Jorge Says No.

      A lot of the other ones I read whenever the fancy strikes.

      I do have to say though, I don’t usually comment outside of LoHud and RAB, and LoHud I’ve mmore or less sworn off the game threads.

      • Moshe Mandel says:

        Smart choice. Which one is pride of the Yankees?

        Being that this is an open thread, I’m gonna take the opportunity to plug my blog. We have a lot of writers who many of you have read in the past- EJ Fagan and Eric Schultz from pending Pinstripes, myself, Tom Gaffney and Tony Gicas of The Bronx Block, Steve of “artist formerly known as Steve” fame, and Chris from iYankees. Check us out at theyankeeuniverse.com.

        Ok, back to the topic. I really think there is a lot of good content out there, and that we are sort of in this golden age of blogging, right before the news media actually figures out how to capture the medium and make us pay for their info.

    • Matt ACTY says:

      Speaking of blogging and self-promotion, I’m gonna be joining the team over at Bronx Baseball Daily once finals/graduation are over.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      I’ve got ~60 baseball feeds in my Google Reader, about half of which are Yankees’ related. I like to read up on some of the other team’s because a) I like to know what they’re up to, and b) they have damn good sites. Think MetsBlog, Rays Index, Ducksnorts, etc.

    • Evan says:

      For general baseball, BP, THT, FanGraphs, Baseball Analysts, Beyond the Boxscore, The Book Blog, Joe Posnanski’s blog. I’ll check Neyer and Law as well as Minor League Ball and Driveline Mechanics at times. Yankee related, mostly RAB and RLYW. For other teams, I check mainly Lookout Landing, USSMariner, and DRaysBay.

      • Moshe Mandel says:

        The thing about the other team blogs is that there are just too many. I depend on BBTF to get me that stuff.

        If anyone doesnt know what that is, it Baseball Think Factory. If you consider yourself an intelligent fan and havent been there, you are really missing out. Tons of discussion everyday, by people who know the sport and think before they type. I rarely post, but I live there.

  14. Roberts said she remains hopeful for Rodriguez, who likely will rejoin the Yankees within a week following his recovery from hip surgery.

    “I do think there’s a very good Alex in there,” said Roberts, who spent six months reporting and writing the book. “I think the good Alex has a very good shot at winning. I think the good Alex is there for all of us to see for the next nine years. … No matter what stage he seems to go through, what sort of incarnation he seems to go through, I think that he is at heart a pretty tenderhearted person.”

    Hack.

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      She then broke into a huge grin and said “psyche!!! I totally had you guys going there. No, seriously, Alex is an evil dude who eats steroids made of puppies and babies.”

    • See, the thing I hate about this woman (right now, anyway) is that she makes it that much harder for the other women who want to do sports journalism.

      The stereotypes abound.

    • Drew says:

      Roberts can su.. Okay I won’t go there.
      Who the hell is she to judge and say, oh, there’s a good person[Alex) inside there? I really have built a hatred for this person. IMO she doesn’t even deserve the time or day, a once credible writer, wrote an opinion column publicly condemning young men that were wrongfully accused based upon shotty and unjust “facts.” Her and her anonymous informers should go climb under a rock. I’m waiting for the Selena Roberts biography in which anonymous sources claim that she gave them an STD and once tipped 10% on a bill at Tony Roma’s.

      • DP says:

        Just go there. Respecting women is great. Selena Roberts is not a woman/human. She has no soul. If anyone hasn’t read her articles while at the NYT about the Duke lacrosse thing, you’ll start to realize it’s not just our bias clouding our judgment.

      • Zack says:

        Can someone write a book on Selena Roberts?
        Alex- hire a PI team, dig into her past, boyfriends she had in high school, ‘unnamed sources’ from the hair salon, how much she tips at mcdonalds.
        I’d buy that book before I buy this one

  15. Jake H says:

    I miss Yankee baseball.

  16. Matt H says:

    Wow, just read about the treatment X is getting, and hopefully it works, but it sounds painful as F.

    And come on ESPN, the ChiSox and Rangers? Really?

  17. Raf says:

    Selena Roberts on MLB Network right now. live interview with Bob Costas

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      Cant watch it. can you post anything interesting from it?

      • Raf says:

        fluff interview with Costas so hes not really pressing her on issues. she doesnt want to reveal sources or other names that she might have come across from the list. and it sounds like Shane Spencer was one of the people that told her about the tipping pitches allegations. she said that he said it was one of the first things he heard about Arod when he went to Texas. she just brushed aside Michael Young and Doug Ganville’s statements against her allegations.

      • Rich M says:

        Seems like most of this book is based on conjecture. She jumps to conclusion on his steroid use in high school based on the fact that he gained weight and could lift a lot more than he could 6 months earlier.
        My question is, She has proven that he lies and is a braggard. How can she take at face value that as a sophmore he was lifting 100lbs and six moths later he was lifting 300lbs. wouldn’t any good reporter ask if the numbers were correct?

        • A.D. says:

          If that’s the basis of the HS steroid use that’s pretty poor, gaining weight & being able to throw up more weight when going from not lifting to lifting regularly thats pretty common.

  18. Im hoping joba or hughes hits ellsbury

  19. daneptizl says:

    Which site is more reliable, Pitch F/X or Fangraphs? They have different readings on velocities and what kinds of pitches were thrown.

  20. 27 this year says:

    One of Wang’s starts was a decent day in Baltimore and another atrocious one in a dome in Tampa so weather is not necessarily the root cause at all.

  21. 27 this year says:

    Hey Ben, Mike, or Joe,

    now that you are affiliated with YES, you should talk about bringing up this whole steroid vs. these medical procedures. Honestly, I don’t thikn too many outside this blog ever thought of it this way and maybe you could help garner some attention. It is certainly worth a try and could show Selig what an idiot he can be.

  22. 27 this year says:

    I love how Red Sox fans are so quick to say Arod is cheater but have no answer about Ortiz. Honestly, he is the one man in baseball right now that resembles a steroid user throughout his career. The only problem is, he doesn’t play in New York and Selig is a Red Sox homer.

    • Matt ACTY says:

      You could say the same thing about Hafner, no?

    • Arod, all the time says:

      I know where you’re coming from. Since Bud started his boyz testing for roids, Jeter’s OPS+ has been slashed from 125 to 103. Rumor has it he has an STD as well.

      • Arod, all the time says:

        No witty comments, I see. Well, for what’s worth:

        OPS+ since 2004:
        Ortiz:
        158
        161
        171
        123 (w/ wrist injury)

        Jeter:
        125
        132
        121
        102

        Just stating facts, maam.

        • Moshe Mandel says:

          One season of decline is not slashed. All the other stuff is normal variance. If you want to be an idiot, come equipped with facts. Also, Ortiz has had plenty of his HR’s turn into doubles.

          • Arod, all the time says:

            132, 121, 102, 103 (2009). That’s not a season, that’s a pattern.

            Show me one thing about Ortiz’s years that suggests he’s a doper.

            • Drew says:

              Well, you can start with this.
              http://www.baseball-reference......html?redir
              Are you serious?

              • Arod, all the time says:

                Yes, I know that site. What is your point?

                • steve (different one) says:

                  at least now we know this guy is a sox fan.

                  and a pretty dumb one.

                  Jeter is 35. his “pattern” is the same pattern that has been exhibited by every SS in the history of baseball.

                  Ortiz did shit until he was 27, exploded for 4 years, now looks like a walking corpse.

                  not saying Ortiz juiced, but only a braindead mouth-breathing Sox fan would look at Jeter’s number and blame it on PED use.

                • Drew says:

                  Well, you asked to show something that would suggest he was a “doper,” whatever the hell that is. I showed you his stats. His stats are my “point.” He wasn’t shit until he got cut because he was an overweight, bad player.

                • Arod, all the time says:

                  Actually, I’m not blaming or accusing anyone. All I said, or meant, was that if you see some pattern with Ortiz, well, that same “pattern” exists with Jeter.

                  As far as Ortiz not hitting until his 27th year: Check this, brainiac, not only did he not get a chance prior to that year (due to injury and his team) but he also did not have a 50′ wall 290′ away in left at his disposal.

                • Arod, all the time says:

                  Rats! I just checked “that site”. Seems I’m wrong. At this stage of the 2009 season Teixeira and Ortiz are not running neck to neck in sucktatude. Teixeira has him beat on OPS+, 81 to 50.

                • steve (different one) says:

                  <bAll I said, or meant, was that if you see some pattern with Ortiz, well, that same “pattern” exists with Jeter.

                  except this is horseshit.

                  Jeter, established big leaguer at 22, All-Star by 24, best season at 25.

                  consistently excellent from 22-33, and still playing at a high level at 35.

                  again, i wouldn’t be surprised if either of them juiced, neither of them juiced, or both of them juiced, but the shape of their careers is not at all similar.

                • Drew says:

                  I wish you actually knew what you were talking about. He didn’t have a chance the year prior? Could you be any more wrong? 125 games with 20 HR’s for a guy that couldn’t play anywhere on the field. I guess 125 games isn’t a “chance,” “braniac.”

                • Arod, all the time says:

                  You’re just pulling any number you can construe as favorable to your cause out of your ass.

                  Jeter’s first two years were league average (102, 103). Combining those years, he had 1402 PA’s. by the time Ortiz had amassed that many PA’s he had an OPS+ of 120 and his contract was up. Minny wanted nothing to do with that for reasons already mentioned, Boston did. The rest, as they say, is history.

                  This site has a nesting issue.

                • Drew says:

                  What are you talking about? Jeter has been the same player since he was 22.
                  You’re comparing a slugger to Derek Jeter. \
                  You haven’t come up with one answer to address my factually based statements.

            • Moshe Mandel says:

              Except you need to look at it in context. First of all, you obviously cant count 2009 yet. 2006 was his best year in a while. 2007 was right in line with 2002-2005. So basically, 2007 from 2006 was a year to year decline, but not an overall decline. He had one season of decline, last year. But whatever, I guess context is not your thing.

        • Drew says:

          lol since 2004? When did they enter the league?

          • Arod, all the time says:

            Are you referring to his coming out of nowhere?

            David Arias was believed to be an injury risk who could not field (true) or touch southpaws. That’s what Minny believed, so they dumped him and his .916 mL OPS.

            Mistakes like that happen so if you need to implicate Ortiz, you should also do the same for Pena, Quentin, Hammilton, and, presently, Swisher.

            • Drew says:

              Josh Hamilton? He hardly came from nowhere. If you told me Swisher took steroids, I’d say Yeah, and?
              Didn’t Ortiz get cut? Then, all of a sudden, he’s big Papi. That happens often.

              • Arod, all the time says:

                Both the Yankees and Sox took long looks at Pena. They both apparently hated him.

                • Drew says:

                  Okay, so what do you want me to say? I think he took steroids? Sure, I think Pena took a form of steroids within the past 10 years. I don’t see your point at all, care to explain?

                • pat says:

                  He was in our system for a year or so didn’t do much and we had the Giambino for a few more years.

                • Arod, all the time says:

                  You can say whatever you want. However, as a baseball fan, regardless of which team you cheer for, assuming Ortiz (who has been so good for the game) took steroids even though he has never been linked or accused, sounds like nothing more than sour grapes for the beatings he has given the Yankees.

                • pat says:

                  sounds like nothing more than sour grapes for the beatings he has given the Yankees.

                  It’s moreso the mountain of statistical evidence pointing towards some sort of artificial performance enhancement than sour grapes.

                • Drew says:

                  Haha, how has he been good for the game? Because his name is “Big Papi?” Because he helped the Redsox win? There are hundreds of guys I’d assume took some form of “performance enhancer (which by the way is the dumbest most generalized term in the history of sports. I’ve taken about 100 things over the past 7 years that can be considered a performance enhancer, none of which were steroids).” This has nothing to do with what he did against the Yankees and it is not an attack on him personally. It’s just me not being ignorant, and being able to read between the lines.

                • Arod, all the time says:

                  Pal, if Ortiz had signed with the Yankees, and delivered as he did with the Sox, there would be a monument 150′ tall on River St, and you would visit it each day so to kiss its feet.

                  “what has he done for baseball?”. Get real. He has BEEN baseball while the dopers and fairies in the Bronx have been doing their damndest to bring it down.

                  the end

                • steve (different one) says:

                  He has BEEN baseball while the dopers and fairies in the Bronx have been doing their damndest to bring it down.

                  people get threatened with bannings for suggesting the grammar on RAB could be better, but this guy is allowed to spew this bullshit?

                • UWS says:

                  Not for much longer, I hope.

                • Drew says:

                  A monument, for four good seasons? Obviously you know nothing about the Yankees. Stick to a Redsox blog. I’m not sure if your aware, but outside of Boston, Ortiz has not “BEEN” baseball.

                • Drew says:

                  Shit, You’re*. eh.

                • Moshe Mandel says:

                  Umm, guys, what are you doing. He said, “the end.” That means its over. He won. One of you rpobably should have said “the end” first.

                • Good point, steve. And so let it be known that the warning has come down on Arod, all the time, who is clearly a Red Sox fan who has nothing better to do than comment with indignity on a Yankees board.

                  Mo it is written, Mo it shall be done. Mosanna, Mosanna, Mosanna in the highest.

                • pat says:

                  PS- It’s River ave, dipshit.

        • Cal Ripken had a monstrous year at age 30 and then fell off a cliff. By your standard he’s a juicer too.

  23. Mike Pop says:

    Selena Roberts can fall off a cliff….not to her death but just so it hurts a little.

  24. pat says:

    Wow Dave Winfield just did a pretty informative demonstration on stealing bases, pretty cool. He’s usually pretty useless.

  25. A.D. says:

    Barry Zito, quality start…what’s happening??

  26. Hey, you all hear about the cowboys facility collapsing yesterday?

    Apparently one of the assistants is now paralyzed.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/.....NHeadlines

  27. Drew says:

    Bob Costas, are you serious? He just said, we have an open invitation for Alex to come speak with us about these allegations. So far, he has declined this invitation. Costas has got to be joking. I really hope Al comes back and hits .350 with 30+ HR’s, not because it will help us, but because it will make all these haters stfu.

  28. pat says:

    Damn, Pacman almost sent ricky hatton into early retirement. Awesome.

  29. Matt ACTY says:

    I still don’t get the Perez to the ‘pen decision.

  30. Matt ACTY says:

    Note to Joe Morgan:

    Ian Kinsler is not the best second baseman in baseball. His name is not Chase Utley.

  31. Drew says:

    Could Jon Miller have wore a worse color? That dude is wearing a glistening urine yellow shirt.

  32. Mike Axisa says:

    Heh, Betemit’s batting fifth.

  33. Mike Pop says:

    Hmmmmm. Matt Harrison.

  34. Mike Pop says:

    Zona fucked up big trading Quentin. Crazy, man. They need a power hitter and he just mashed ever since he’s been with CWS.

    • They should have at least kept Chris Carter. But they gave up him and the rest of the farm for Dan Haren, which is great for their pitching but not so great for their hitting.

  35. Moshe Mandel says:

    Because I’m bored and hate studying- whats your desert island album? Mine is Elephant from The White Stripes. Anyone else wanna volunteer?

  36. Drew says:

    Bandbox!

  37. Matt ACTY says:

    Isn’t the story Phillips just told way off? I thought all Jones got, aside from Texas, was MiL deals, no?

  38. Mike Axisa says:

    Ah good ol’ Betemit. Strikeout or an XBH.

  39. Matt ACTY says:

    Over or Under: 4.5 more times they mention Podsednik’s GW HR

  40. Mike Pop says:

    Rangers win the West?

  41. Matt ACTY says:

    No, Joe, winning the GG isn’t very important at all. It’s a joke of an award. Rafael Palmeiro won the award after play TWENTY EIGHT GAMES at first in 1999.

  42. VO says:

    Does anyone know whats up with those cuban players?

  43. UWS says:

    It’s a sad day when I find myself agreeing with Steve Phillips about anything.

  44. Tom Zig says:

    Anyone remember this shirt?

    http://tinyurl.com/ddhffe

    Any idea where I can get a hold of one?

    I know it was recalled by MLB, I tried searching google. No dice.

  45. [...] John surgery once before, his elbow ligament is actually a tendon. That could affect how much the experimental platelet-rich plasma procedure actually helps him. Hopefully there’s no issues and Nady comes back sooner rather than [...]

  46. [...] ligature or feeling more pain, then he and the Yanks can begin thinking about rehab. Nady has been undergoing a platelet-rich plasma injection regime in the hopes of avoiding Tommy John surgery. If he responds well to the baseball exercises, he [...]

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