Jun
24

Veras traded to Indians

By Mike Axisa

Via MLBTR, the Yanks have traded the recently DFA’ed Jose Veras to the Indians in exchange for cash considerations. I figured they would at least get a Grade-C prospect out of it, but whatever. Can’t fault the Tribe for taking a flier on an arm like Jose’s.

In other news, the Nats called up old buddy Tyler Clippard. T-Clip’s been absolutely unhittable since moving to the pen, allowing just 35 base runners and four earned runs with 42 strikeouts in 39 innings.

Posted on Wednesday, June 24th, 2009 at 4:05 pm in Asides.

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Hes perfect for replacing Vizciano

 
John says:

Considering we got him for nothing from the scrap heap, it’s worth it.

 
Hova says:

Cabrera pulled from the lineup abruptly and replaced with Swisher. Does that mean something is going on?

I can has Mike Cameron?

ChrisS says:

Mike Cameron would be awesome for everyone until a week went by and everyone is bitching about him striking all the time.

 
A.D. says:

Cameron has been in a terrible slump in June, he’d fit right in!

Just looked it up. Oof. He’s still fielding well, though.

A.D. says:

Yeah, pretty much the same UZR/150 as BG

 
 
 
 
Hova says:

Use your connects and get us the info Mike! :) I am starting to get excited for no reason at all. Hopefully we sold high on melky.

 
 
wishfull thinking says:

That would be a dream come true…

 
radnom says:

Cashman is at the stadium….

I have a weird feeling about this.

jsbrendog says:

the anticipation is killing me…i cant wait for him to introduce pujols as our new dh for melky/aceves

radnom says:

I’m sure IPK was part of that deal, don’t forget.

 
 
 
rbizzler says:

I doubt Melky is getting moved as PeteAbe reported that Swish was put in the lineup after a meeting with Cash and Girardi. I think that they would have met with Melk if he was on the move.

 

Hova: Seriously, enough with the off-topic comments. I’ve already addressed this issue with you. If it doesn’t stop, you’ll get a temporary ban.

ChrisS says:

And below, threads are riddled with Prius RoIs and NBA trades.

jsbrendog says:

what is “nba?”

 

This isn’t, Chris, up for discussion. No off-topic comments. Per our guidelines, blatantly off-topic comments will be removed. End of conversation.

ChrisS says:

I guess it’s all how “blatantly” is defined and who’s doing the posting.

Just sayin’.

Or if the off-topic comment comes up in the course of conversation. Hova’s was posted apropos of nothing. The Prius and NBA talk came up during a discussion of Posada earlier. That’s on topic. The former was not.

I was actually a little steamed at the NBA topic.

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BklynJT says:

I haven’t read the previous thread, so I would need a damn good imagination to see how Posada, Prius, and NBA fit together logically in a conversation.

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radnom says:

I think someone also peed on their hands and described it to everyone.

It was a wild time. Cars. Urine. Basketball.

 
A.D. says:

Oddly the peeing on the hands was somewhat on topic.

 
Kevin G. says:

I skimmed through the Posada thread, and I didn’t see basketball come up.

 
 
 
 
Hova says:

How is mentioning a starting player being pulled from the lineup around the same time a pitcher was traded to another team blatantly off-topic?

Because the two have nothing to do with one another. The Veras trade was announced, therefore complete. Any speculation about Melky is just that, speculation. If something develops, we’ll post on it. In the interim, we ask you to keep comments on topic.

 

Does Melky Cabrera getting benched have anything to do with a waiver move involving Jose Veras? No.

News of that ilk should be emailed to us.

 
 
 
radnom says:

ha. I forget how, but didn’t the prius thing come up naturally?

I don’t think they mind conversation wandering a bit – that is different than just introducing an offtopic news/rumor unrelated to the current discussion.

 
 
 
radnom says:

This is what everyone wants to talk about.

Policing the threads is one thing, but maybe you would be better served creating a new post about it, if it is dominating the conversation on another post?

Everyone wants to talk about it because someone posted an off-topic comment about it. As we said on Monday, the thing to do with news is to send it to us using either the new “submit a tip” form or via e-mail, and we’ll start a new thread about it. The comments sections are not blank slates.

radnom says:

Someone posted an off topic comment about it because everyone wanted to talk about it. If Hova hadn’t. someone else would have.

People consider this a community of baseball discussion, when there is breaking news (although you could argue the news-worthyness of this), they want to discuss it not submit a tip and wait until 9:30 when someone posts a thread about it.

I understand the validity of policing certain off-topic posts, but when conversation is dominated by a Yankees-related breaking issue, would you not be better served giving the people what they want as opposed to stamping out dissent? Afterall, a lot of the reason people come here is for the community.

It is a community. And in order to not have this community get out of hand (see: MetsBlog and LoHud), we try to stick to a set of basic rules. One of them is keeping comments on the topic of the post. We have at least one open thread per day, where we can launch into items like this one.

 

they want to discuss it not submit a tip and wait until 9:30 when someone posts a thread about it.

And we’ve asked people numerous times not to do that. I realize there’s a community here, but it’s also a site that we run with a purpose and a focus. We don’t want it overrun with off-topic discussions. If we did, it would be a forum and not a blog. That’s why we ask for tips to be emailed.

We received a lot of emails about the Veras trade, and as soon as one of us was back at a computer, we posted it. That’s how we’d like it to work.

 
radnom says:

I hear both of you. I’m specifically referring to breaking news, nothing else.

People are going to be talking about it before you get a post up, there are only three of you and a billion of us – its inevitable.

Obviously it would be ideal if readers just emailed you and waited patiently until you got a thread up, but honestly, if a trade goes do and you don’t have a thread up yet I will probably be discussing it in an offtopic post. I don’t think thats a sign of comments run wild like the metsblog.

That we understand. It’s the blatant off topic comments about Beltran going to the DL or NBA trades or cars or whatever that really grind our gears.

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BklynJT says:

I’m hearing conflicting statements from the big three.

Ones says the Prius and NBA talk was ok because it naturally occurred from an on topic discussion, although i fail to see how.

While another say that discussion of breaking news is ok while talk of random stuff (mets, nba trades, cars) is the type of off topic discussion that is prohibited.

I’m more inclined to see the discussion of Melky’s removal from the lineup as natural progression from the Veras trade topic, than I am to believe Posada, Prius, and NBA talk belong in the same thread.

 

Hey, ugys, did you hear that Carlos Beltran is going on the Knicks’ DL since he got into an accident while driving a Prius?

;)

 

Well, if it legitimately comes from from an on-topic discussion, then it’s okay. But just out of the blue “ZOMG the Knicks traded for …” or “I know this is off topic, but Manny is rehabbing in AAA tonight” stuff is a no go.

 
 
 
 
 
jsbrendog says:

how about a RAB forum where knuckleheads (myself included) can wax poetic on such off topic topics as melky, the usa, “nba,” etc

prob waaay too much work, just saying

 
 
BklynJT says:

I’m actually interested in discussing the removal of Melky from the lineup, as it might pertain to a trade, which is more on topic than other comments in this thread.

For now everything is wild speculation. If something develops, we’ll post it. If it’s just some random event, it can stay that way.

 
 
 

The worst part about this is that all the talk of off-topic comments has led the thread even further off topic.

Le sigh.

radnom says:

What was this thread about again?

The infield fly rule?

 
 
 
 
Salty Buggah says:

I’ll kind of miss wildly electric arm. I have a feeling he’s going to be lights-out for them as he was for a while last year.

Hova says:

Until he implodes and makes them regret giving us even cash for him.

Salty Buggah says:
 
 
 
T-CLIP NATION says:

Did i hear somebody mention my boy TY-Clip….Holla

 
jsbrendog says:

would this be sold him to the indians as opposed to traded? lol altough i guess traded for cash.

and speakig of unhittable, USA USA USA USA USA defeats the #1 ranked team in the workd to advance to the confederations cup final (my tsjc style of keeping irrelevant things borderline relevant!) their goalie was unhittable

Jake K. says:

You’re killing me–I’m only in the 58th minute!!!

A.D. says:

You can watch a little easier now.

 
 
 
radnom says:

So begins the curse of the great josambino

Salty Buggah says:

curse of Cy Veras?

radnom says:

Thank you.

That was much better than what I came up with.

 
jsbrendog says:

i was thinking babe veras but yeah good one

 
 
 
A.D. says:

I wonder how much cash a Jose Veras on waivers gets a team

ChrisS says:

His salary for the rest of the season?

 

Waiver claims cost 50G’s. Not sure if that money goes to the other team though, it might go to the league.

jsbrendog says:

but then there’s usually some sort of deal involved or it is just “picked up off waivers”

this mentions a trade (for cash) which means something more had to be involved no?

Rick in Boston says:

It’s “cash considerations” which probably means the Yankees will take the 50k from the waiver claim and then if Veras reaches certain milestones (probably IP), the Indians have to fork over additional cash.

 
 
 
 

Good luck to T-Clip. I’ll always remember his first career start against the Mets.

 
E-ROC says:

I’m sure Veras would probably be an upgrade over Kerry Wood.

 
Makavelli says:

I wonder what the Indians are going to use Veras for. Wedge is on his way out, they wouldn’t give him a foot rest – would they??

 
 
Makavelli says:

Now if only there was a team out there we could trade Arod to for an ample return

 
JP says:

ARod can effectively be considered part of the Yankee Stadium building. He is not going anywhere, until he decides to hang up his spikes.

mtt says:

If only they could convince the city to foot the bill.

 
 
 
Will (the other one) says:

Man, this is kind of a letdown. Not sure why we couldn’t have swung something a little better than cash out of the Indians (or another team, for that matter) from Veras–but then again, this is probably just one of the many reasons I’m not an MLB GM.

A.D. says:

Eh, I mean they got something for him, that’s a plus. And we’re talking best case a C prospect, who realistically may not ever even make it to AAA, let alone the majors. At least the cash is a sure thing.

 

I figure the cash they’ll get for him is just as valuable as whatever player they’d get in return.

Will (the other one) says:

Yeah, truthfully, that’s probably the way it turns out more often than not…but at least if there’s a player coming back in our direction, there’s a new face to be interested in. If there’s anything I’ve learned from the GEICO commercials, it’s that cash pretty much just sits there, staring at you vacantly.

 
JP says:

It actually plays a little riff on a fuzz bass, though.

 
 
 
Kevin G. says:

I was expecting Grady Sizemore.

Will (the other one) says:

Eh, I would’ve settled for Matt LaPorta and a couple C-prospects. Can’t expect them to give that much up, you know?

 
 
 
CapitalT says:

Since when did the Yankees need cash? It might be smart economically but that has always been irrelevant to the team.

My guess is the second best offer was “nothing”

Accent Shallow says:

And we have a winner.

 
 
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