Jul
03
Game 79 Spillover Thread
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That was fucking POOR.
wow swisha…
:facepalm:
Swisher’s constantly taking that called 3 strike
He’s also constantly taking that called ball 4.
Wouldn’t it have been great if Teixiera came home on the previous play, and Scutaro would’ve thrown the ball to Tallet with no glove? That would have been awesome!
Eh, I always say that when a team loads the bases with nobody out, two runs should be scored at minimum.
Yeah, but that was 3 shitty ABs from 3 good hitters following the loading of the bases. That whole inning was a gift from the umps. Gardner got a couple balls he shouldn’t have, they got two extra outs at first…
no, he earned that walk fairly on Gameday
Run expectancy in that situation is ~2.3 runs. However, in (what has played like) a hitter’s park, and 3-4-5 coming up, you’d expect that to get higher. Still, 2 > 0, every time.
One more from A.J. then to Hughes for 2 and MO for the 9th
Bruney’s the 8th inning guy. Girardi’s said as much.
That is fucking stupid if Hughes is not the guy to lock this down.
can hughes afford to pitch today with Wang tomorrow and Ace having been extended yesterday. and if hughes is pitching one at a time send his ass to scranton
Maybe A.J. pitches the 7th
That was the weakest 2 run rally I’ve ever seen.
…
So we get two runs on one bunt hit?
welcome to Yankee hitting with RISP
ehh they should’ve had more
do we have any hits with RISP today?
damon’s bunt
well, we should have had another run but I’ll take the 2
That could have been big. One run. ugh. It’s those fakking red hats.
2, but yeah…bases loaded, no outs for Tex-Arod-Cano? Definitely should have been a bigger inning.
they destroyed texas when wearing them last time…
The ghosts of Yankees past hate them.
those red hats are really an eyesore.
Completely agreed.
Also agree completely – HATE them!
Yet more stellar work with RISP from this team.
Cano sucks. There’s no debate. He consistently fails in these situations. Explore trade options Cashman.
really? yes, he has struggled a lot with RISP but really?
Yeah, I hate it when my 2B plays plus defense, slugs near .500, and has a AVG-heavy league average OBP.
I hate that.
Yup. He’s awful. Oh, wait, that’s just you.
Who the hell plays 2B, Ramiro Pena?
There is a debate. He’s not good with RISP… there’s no debate about that. But he’s about to go on his annual July tear. Let’s see how many RBI he can accumulate with this hot streak.
do we know who cano is yet? i still believe there’s another level he could reach
wells crushed that
Cano is 20 of 96 (.208) with RISP. Terrible. Probably should have someone else hit 5th. When Posada is healthy he should be the 5th place hitter.
I think we should feel happy we somehow got 2 runs, it could’ve been worse (or better if tex was called safe but still..) because we got no hit except a bunt
Bases loaded, no out, with all our speed on the bases, Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez and Robinson Cano due up. Teixeira draws a walk. Still no one out. We get one. more. run. I’m not happy about that. You can be thrilled if you like.
Come on, you have to put that bum away.
Hate 0-2 homers. Hate ‘em.
makes my blood boil
oops i meant to say wells crushed that here
ewww 0-2 HR !!
love those random curse words on the tv audio
AJ: This game isn’t NEAR close enough. Lemme throw an 0-2 cookie!
lol
If anybody other than Hughes, Coke or Mo pitch in this game I will be highly upset. I really only want to see Hughes and Mo. But I can understand Coke because he has been pitching extremely well as of late.
“highly upset” this amuses me.
I don’t know why.
sounds like a “If you’re late for our dinner party” type reaction, not a discussion about pitchers.
I will be mildly perturbed.
This vexes me. I am severely vexed.
Should we make that apart of RAB vernacular?
meme construction!
Belatedly:
An incredible slide home by Tex…only to have a terrible call by the ump. There are frustrating calls and then there calls that have me tearing my hair out. Ugh. I hope Tex gets payback in his next AB.
that would be nice
He needs to snap out of it. He’s been in a mini-slump for a bit and hasn’t homered in several fortnights.
Well, if that call didn’t do it I say the Yanks fly in Gomez from the Twins and Padilla in order to fuel Big Tex back to greatness.
I thought the fan that threw it back onto the field had a pretty good arm.
1 tool down 4 more to go.
Girardi needs to get ejected.
The Yanks are just barely missing the boat.
michael kay is dumb
this is well documented. Just last night he said his favorite Jack Nicholson movie was As Good As It Gets. Obviously never saw Cuckoo’s Nest, A Few Good Men, The Shining, The Postman Always Rings Twice, Hoffa…ETC ETC ETC.
Does Matsui lead the league in groundouts to 2B? I’m actually asking seriously? is there a way to find out?
I think b-ref might have that kind of data…you’d have to do some work, probably, but I think they have the outcome of every AB on there.
he doesn’t even lead the team – every cano slump (there are a lot of them, btw) has like a 73% chance of a 4-3
WTF was that??
That was ridiculously stupid. Just horrible.
having the catcher try and steal?
:facepalm:
Is “:facepalm:” just your default signature? Because it would probably be appropriate about 75% of the time with this team…
hahaha touche
You’re fast for a catcher, Cervelli. But that means you’re still slow.
Cervelli was so close to stealing. So close.
I wish Girardi had gotten himself ejected over the Tex call. Cervelli would have gotten himself another HR.
im guessing burnett, coke, bruney, mo the rest of the way. saving hughes to back up wang tomorrow with ace having been extended yesterday
missed hit-and-run?
If we leave this inning with the lead, which is of course no guarantee, who would you like to see in the 8th?
The guy who’s warming as we speak!
Phil Hughes or Brian Bruney. No preference for either.
The YES promo should just say:
“The Yankees are ready for some fireworks in the Bronx as they battle it out with the Blue Jays and take their obligatory beat-down from Roy Halladay. Only… on YES!”
“it’s an independence day battle as the yankees go and get their fucking shineboxes. only on YES!”
ietcvm
any chance hughes gets action in the 8th if aj gets outta this inning?
yes, hughes is warming up right now
I think ur gonna see Bruney
i dont want hughes in the 8th cause then that is the only thing we will ever hear…he should be the 8th inning guy
The Yankees’ defense has made A.J. throw two extra pitches today, the bums.
Man, this is another one of those games where the offense doesn’t get any breaks.
Whoops. Score that one a reply button error.
“it’s an independence day battle as the yankees go and get their fucking shineboxes. only on YES!”
Swisher uses two hands on every possible pop up. Very impressive fundamentals.
AJ has been stellar in his last couple starts.
Mr. Butterfield, I’m sure feel you Marco Scutaro is a dynamo at short stop, but we all know that Nick Green > All.
Nice job by YES showing Bruney with his hands down his pants in the background when Hughes and Coke were warming up.
it would’ve been even better had he still had the pornstache
And like that, Burnett has lost the strikezone.
Ok whew. Less tack a few on.
cmon AJ get out of this inning
thanks
Isn’t it time for the yanks to can God Bless America?
During Fourth of July weekend?
Of course not, but do the yanks have to play it on lets say on Aug 3rd?
no
commie!
Why do you hate your country?
I do hate God Bless America. It would not be possible to select a more inappropriate, insensitive song to begin using after events of 9-11.
Yes im a socialist.
You don’t hear people clamoring for the Cubs to can Take me out to the ballgame?
I meant to write “Why is it you don’t hear people…”
I’m not sure how Take Me Out to the Ballgame infers pre-ordained superiority, but no.
Well done AJ, well done indeed.
could’ve been better as that 0-2 HR is still pissing me off but yes 7 IP 2 ER is awesome
I think it’s safe to say he’s “found his groove.” If CC and A.J. have 2nd halves that are even comparable to last season, this team is in great shape.
AJ fought that at-bat and got his popup
I dunno about you guys but I take 7 IP 2 ER from the starter 24/7/365
+1
if anyone says no, they are idiotic
i will be idiotic then cause i dont need it in february…lol.
+5
Are these queer ass umps behind home plate Blue Jays fans?
yea. they were there in toronto and i saw them when the jays were in atl
That makes it even more sad. That means that two guys – from Canada – came up with this idea and thought it was soooo badass that they absolutely had to travel around the country to do this.
It’s not even clever. And they’re really into it too. It’s just a waste of time.
yes
the yankees paid for them to be there though…
It’s not even clever.
Sounds like Coke will start the 8th with Lind due up.
Hughes warms up a lot in relation to the games he gets into. That’s not a great thing.
If it is 3-2, I pitch Lind with Coke, Rolen with Hughes, and Overbay with Rivera.
That’s overkill. Coke for Lind then Hughes for the rest of the inning is fine.
Perhaps, but why not? Rivera will pitch the ninth, so why not get the better matchup in the 8th?
We are assuming 2 outs and no one on. If there are runners on, then you probably want Rivera vs Overbay even more.
If that’s the case then Tuesday’s game with Hughes not pitching the 8th makes it even more absurd since he said Bruney is his “8th inning guy”
i hate scutaro
Jeter with a baserunning blunder. He’s not an every day player.
/Swisher hater’d
heh ietc
That’s what I was looking to do.
/Swisher hater’d. Nice.
Had to be done. Jeter knew he hadn’t erased two baserunners yet today.
That’s the first time in my life I’ve seen Jete do somethin like that.
aj deserves to win this game. the rest of the team, not so much
+1
I respectfully request a do over for that inning.
It’s like the Yankees are giving Burnett the Johan Santana treatment // Mets’d.
Jete is padding his stats again.
Oh wait.
you have to admire his dedication to the double play
Well, he’s only got so many years left to beat Ripken’s record.
Look at that mental mistake on the basepaths. What a disgrace. They need to trade for a new shortstop. I mean, that’s the deal with Swisher, right? So it must apply to Jeter too?
Phil Coke is a hell of a drug.
Nice.
girardi’s hooked
It seems the Yankees are high on Coke right now. I don’t think they’ll be looking to deal Coke any time soon.
Aaaaahahahahahashit.
Hughes time.
Too bad marte isn’t healthy we could have a reliever for each batter.
Look it’s Phil Hughes YAY!
well cmon phil, you got this
let him pitch the 8th and 9th
Hughes for the 1.1 IP save? anyone?
1.2 and nahhh. Mo time.
damn it, that hitting streak got extended
You CANNOT triple up on fastballs like that. That is stupid pitch selection.
With that type of control you CAN. But, sometimes a good hitter will take what ya give.
Sorry, you are wrong. Rolen hadn’t seen anything else. He is prepared for one pitch and one pitch only: an outside fastball, and that is what Hughes gave him. Did you see the swing? It was the only thing he was looking for. Any other pitch has a much better chance of getting him out.
Not necessarily. The more he sees the same pitch, the more he’d think that Hughes will pull the string on the next pitch. It’s a little bit of reverse psychology.
He can think about it all he wants, but he hasn’t seen it. The only thing he knows he can handle is the outside fastball. He’s thinking (and the swing bears this out) “if I get that again, I’m going to poke it to RF.”
Whatever dude it’s easy to judge in hindsight. I’ll take Cervelli/Hughes’ judgment every time.
What makes you think I am judging in hindsight? I was nervous as soon as Cervelli setup out there.
Hitters can’t over-think like that. Down 0-2 on 2 pitches in the exact same location, he has to be thinking he’ll go there again… or at least be ready for that outside corner. You have to at least show him a pitch inside, but inside for a ball, or a curve in the dirt, then go back out there.
I agree they were three straight identical pitches. They were good pitches, but he probably should have thrown something else before going to the well for the third time.
The Hardball Times studied this, and found all major leaguers hit something well over .400 on doubled-up fastballs, much less tripled-up. It is documented.
They also do much better against doubled-up breaking balls, although not as well as the fastball.
sorry, that should’ve been replied to Drew.
I realize. I agree with you.
I understand your opinion and I understand that there is statistics that may back up your opinion. I also understand that you, and I, are sitting by our computers, I trust Cervelli and Hughes, they thought they’d get him with the pitch. There’s nothing wrong with Hughes trusting his fastball and giving up a bit of a punch dunker to right.
Yeah, except Cervelli and Hughes are both young, and that stuff probably worked in their previous gigs. 0-2 hits have a way of hurting. 0-2 hits in the 8th inning of a one run game really can have a way of hurting. It worked out, though.
lol, whatever you say. I didn’t realize Rolen was hitting 1.000 when seeing 3 consecutive fastballs. You should call the game, fire Cervelli.
He’s throwing 96 with good location. Not the worst thing.
Don’t do it Vernon.
come on phil. red cap power!
Hughes is one smooth fielder.
If only there was a way for the catcher to inaudibly signal what pitch he wants instead of going out to the mound every time.
Hughes-y!!
phew Philly
Great job again by Phil. I thought Bruney was the 8th inning guy. Good to see Hughes take the job.
I don’t like Hughes there. I would have saved him for tomorrow to go if Wang sucks it up.
one inning so he’s good to go tomorrow
he could probably still go an inning.
No strikeouts? Bah.
11 of 15 pitches were strikes. He just didn’t finish them off after getting ahead or he would have gotten 2 K’s.
To become a star Phil has to own the inside corner to righties and lefties.
Hughes did his job.
Al ftw!
STAT PADDER!
Pad those stats baby, pad those stats.
How can he pad those stats if he’s on the sharp decline?
It’s a steep decline, different things Ivan.
The left side of the graph shows his decline: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi.....ote_f1.png
Bandbox.
That made such a pretty sound. I want that as my ringtone.
IETC…that would be an awesome ringtone
LOLOLOL.
Alex swatted that one like it was nothing.
A Cashman Birthday bomb from Arod.
I thought A-Rod was shot.
bottle that swing
Blammooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
I think Alex HRs here…motherfucker did it while I was typing.
A-RAWD HAS OPPOSITE-FIELD POWAHHHHHH!
/Francesa’d
Figures. We were all ready winning.
/axl’d
I wish Tex was as done as Alex is. LMAO
FACE PALM
As much as a i love how Hughes is succeeding right now he needs to be working outings for innings not just outs. the longer this goes on the more frustrated i get because they are coming up with more and more excuses to keep him here and pitch 3 innings a week and 12 inning months hurt this team in the future.
I also agree the one disturbing thing i am seeing with hughes pitching is even while he is being aggressive and firing strikes he is not firing them at the inside part of the plate.
I agree. I think the Yankees get bullpen help by the trade deadline.
i didnt say they needed help. you can bring up melancon to do what they are having phil do right now or if you have a long man let ace do it.
I don’t understand what makes people so sure that Melancon is a shoe-in good reliever in MLB. It’s not that easy to do what Phil is doing.
Maybe they’ll get a couple more runs and Phil can Phinish.
Someone wake Buster Olney.
He and Rosenthal are busy writing rap songs for Jay-Z.
Interesting news on Int signees
http://twitter.com/kileymcd/status/2458086512
good news
I wonder if pitching out the pen right now is not only hurting Hughes’ development in terms of innings, but in that he’s only throwing two pitches. He’s succeeding with just a fastball and curve in relief, but he’ll need more as a starter and should be developing them.
He can succeed with just those two pitches, as many pitchers do, but I think his cutter has become a legit third pitch that he’s already developed.
He started throwing the cutter last year, and he also needs to work on his change. He could do fine as a third starter with the two pitches, probably, but to achieve his potential, he needs
1) innings
2) command/confidence in the cutter and/or the change
he’s getting neither by pitching in the pen.
But, hey…Cash wouldn’t want to tell Mo that he’s swapping Hughes for Melancon just to make the Yankees better long-term.
who cares what he would want to tell him…its his job.
I know. But I was paraphrasing Cash…he was quoted as saying something roughly like what I wrote.
2009 Matsui = 2008 Jason Giambi?
Maybe. Even more conceivable: 2010 Matsui = 2009 Giambi.
that would be awful.
…for him. Matsui won’t be on the Yanks next year.
If Hank were still running the team he would be.
That would be awesome.
Matsui 2009 OPS+ = 118
Giambi 2008 OPS+ = 128
he should grow a stache
Imagine Matsui with a Jason Giambi porn stache…
imagine giambi with a matsui porn cache
ietc
oh, very good.
Awesome stat by Michael Kay!! 12 of A-Rod’s 13 HR have come when the run diff. was within two.
Uuuuuuuber clutch!
he has 14
His friends must not be giving him signs anymore, huh?
Heh, the Blue Jays do not stand one iota of a chance with this strike zone and Mo on the mound.
Someone needs to tell Mo to shave.
Dibs not me.
lol at Chavez
man tomorrow is going to suck hardcore.
Those umpire guys will be calling a boatload of strikes with roy up…
That’s because Halladay will be throwing tons of strikes. That guy is so ridiculously good.
Mo’s finished. He gave up those two homeruns two months ago.
you sound like peter gammons…
I talked to one scout who said Junichi Tazawa was the best free agent signing this offseason.
Now THAT sounds like Peter Gammons.
YANKEES, WIN!
cervelli: great job!
mo: who are you?
haha
I think Mariano Rivera is the most valuable player on the Yanks.
Nope.
It’s probably one of the position players or CC.
WAR says it’s Jeter (2.8), CC (2.6), then Tex (2.3).
I think you’re insane.
he’s been the most valuable for almost a decade, with the one hiccup being that world series game against the dbacks…
He’s a reliever. He has never been the most valuable player on any team; ever.
He’s been the most comfort-inducing, the best security blanket, sure. Most valuable? Nope.
Hmm no, Jeter probably has been.
Yea since 2002 WAR Jeter-35.7 MO- 18.4
thats ok, we can agree to disagree
…I guess.
I mean…you basically said “the sky is green,” we said “no, look, it’s blue.”
“Agree to disagree.”
What?
When in Rome….
this.
also mariano i would say has been the best at his position. but value is actually moderately calculable, and by zero statistical evidence is mariano the most valuable player on that team, nor has he ever been. but on the other hand, he is god, which means he can make the team win at will which would be more valuable if he weren’t such a goddamn good, fair guy. I mean i know the redsox fans “deserved” a WS win, but 2? Oh he also doesn’t pump his fist and has the respect of the opposition, which gives the yankees a lot of wins every year, although A-Rod takes some of them away by hitting home runs.
Kim Jones didn’t get an interview, she looked pissed.
looks like suzyn Waldman took Robbie right out from under her.
There’s a mental image that will scald for days.
Mo-licious
I heart Good pitching by the Yanks. It’s been a while.
What, 42 hours?
+1
hehe no I meant that it’s been a while the whole team is good at pitching(not like the last couple of years+)
mo-ed em down.
AJ, 5 of the last 7… 3-1 in the last 4 with a 0.99 ERA
Off topic:
Via Kiley McDaniel’s Twitter:
gary sanchez expected to join GCL team within 2 weeks; not on 2010 contract like many 7/2 signees.
sick. Hope it’s true.
dirty.
ICWUDT.
yea…brought up just before the game. also mark newmann said cabrera is more advanced at this stage than Arodys Vizcaino and Jairo Heredia were.
Murphy better get his ass signed or he’s gonna be passed before he even puts a uniform on.
from jorge arangure twitter:
@YankeesWFAN only way they would be catching up to Cervelli was if Cervelli was catching against self since he’s greatest signal caller ever
Heyman say’s Yanks are the early front runners on Chapman. Talk about early! Nobody even knows where he is…
if he is 26 like the times said stay away. but yea he wont be a FA before 2010 so no sense talking about it yet really.
It could go faster then we think because all his paperwork should have been in order when he played in the WBC.
Frankly, idc whether he’s 26. 100MPH is 100MPH. Obviously, he’d get a lower bonus at that point, but he’s still worth it.
Dude Chisox fans think they have this thing in the bag, I can’t want to break their hearts.
No shit he could be back in Havanah with a bag over his head and jumper cables attached to his nuts for all we know.
Stellar work by Heyman – who I absolutely abhor. The Yankees have the most money… therefor they are the front runners for Chapman. Great reporting.
Would be cool though.
Just got tickets to Zmac’s next start on monday in trenton.. Awesome
nice. Here’s hoping Jesus blesses you with a HR.
hah, thanks I’m just hoping zmac isn’t promoted by then.
Its ZMac poster night so you will see him one way or another.
And guess who will be pressed against the fence throwing little kids out of the way to get his autograph?
This guy.
How many hits do the yankees get off of halladay tomorrow?
i say 5 hits, 9Ks and maybe a run off of him.
My boy Al will take him deep with Jetes on base.
I love how Joe and AJ were both like “yeah, the good pitching is all about fastball command and throwing strike one”
But for the media it HAS to be that making that vow a month ago and “something inside” that is driving him to pitch better. Sorry guys, it’s not magic and heart…it’s about hitting your spots and changing speeds, just like it always has been.
Somebody needs to tell Bruney that hat is absolutely ridiculous.
I really like how the media is really trying to make this game a story about the 8th inning (and how Bruney wasn’t in it), and no one on this team thinks it’s a big deal.
“When the phone rings, everybody grabs their gloves and gets ready. I think it’s a little ridiculous I have to answer these questions again and again.”
~Brian Bruney.
Looks like that debate about innings roles the other day – and how relievers need them – was a little off the mark, doesn’t it?
I guarantee you that, despite him saying this stuff, some talking head will segue with “Bruney says he doesn’t care, but you can see he really does, Kruk-y can you talk about that?”
and then they’ll go right back to the same old story from the same old angle.
I _loved_ that.
Kim: “Phil…What changes when you get that call in the 8th inning?”
Hughes: “Nothing. Nothing at all.”
Done. Period. No gratifying their need for drama.
Hahah you can tell they’re all tired of this bullshit. Bruney looked like he wanted to slap Kim Jones.
yet another reason to love phil hughes
thats like 6 or 7 wins right there
Keyshawn is so bad on JRB
Kevin Goldstein on ESPN.com:
Jesus Montero, C, Yankees (Double-A Trenton)
Thursday’s stats: 2-for-5, HR (5), R, 2 RBI, K
Basically, if you go deep in a fourth straight game, you make the Minor League Update, and continue to do so until the streak ends. If you need someone else to keep track, the 19-year-old Venezuelan product is now 8-for-14 in those four games with 24 total bases, upping his season averages to .325/.395/.571 (batting/on-base/slugging). For a teenager in Double-A, that is entering nutsy cuckoo territory.
http://insider.espn.go.com/fan.....ects090703
love it.
Yeah, Montero was listed first in Goldstein’s daily Minor League Update today under the heading, “Let’s just call it the Josh Vitters rule,” who is one of the other few prospects who have made that on consecutive days. Goldstein generally likes to spotlight as many different prospects as possible, so it takes some kind of talent (like Montero’s) to show up on consecutive days like he has.
Man, it’s exciting to have a bat like that in the Yankees minor league system.
Man, it’s exciting to have a bat like that in the Yankees minor league system.
Noooooo shit. Kinda makes you forget a few of our big ticket pitchers(Brack+Dell) have been scuffling. It’s easy to fall in love with the power numbers but the thing I love the most is 7k’s in 86 PA’s. For a 19yr old who just got called up to AA that’s so ridiculous.
Re: Hughes’ role; Can they note a reliever innings as long as he is getting continuous work and theoretically say that the stress on the arm of 80 innings would be ~140-170? it seems like a new frontier, although some guys have increased the innings substantially.