Jul
03

Game 79 Spillover Thread

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  1. pat says:

    That was fucking POOR.

  2. Dela G says:

    wow swisha…

    :facepalm:

  3. MattG says:

    Wouldn’t it have been great if Teixiera came home on the previous play, and Scutaro would’ve thrown the ball to Tallet with no glove? That would have been awesome!

  4. Jamal G. says:

    Eh, I always say that when a team loads the bases with nobody out, two runs should be scored at minimum.

    • whozat says:

      Yeah, but that was 3 shitty ABs from 3 good hitters following the loading of the bases. That whole inning was a gift from the umps. Gardner got a couple balls he shouldn’t have, they got two extra outs at first…

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Run expectancy in that situation is ~2.3 runs. However, in (what has played like) a hitter’s park, and 3-4-5 coming up, you’d expect that to get higher. Still, 2 > 0, every time.

  5. Dorian says:

    One more from A.J. then to Hughes for 2 and MO for the 9th

  6. whozat says:

    That was the weakest 2 run rally I’ve ever seen.

  7. So we get two runs on one bunt hit?

  8. e mills says:

    ehh they should’ve had more

  9. Tom Zig says:

    do we have any hits with RISP today?

  10. Salty Buggah says:

    well, we should have had another run but I’ll take the 2

  11. LiveFromNewYork says:

    That could have been big. One run. ugh. It’s those fakking red hats.

  12. Tank the Frank says:

    Yet more stellar work with RISP from this team.

  13. ddgg says:

    Cano sucks. There’s no debate. He consistently fails in these situations. Explore trade options Cashman.

  14. Jake H says:

    Cano is 20 of 96 (.208) with RISP. Terrible. Probably should have someone else hit 5th. When Posada is healthy he should be the 5th place hitter.

  15. Salty Buggah says:

    I think we should feel happy we somehow got 2 runs, it could’ve been worse (or better if tex was called safe but still..) because we got no hit except a bunt

    • Tank the Frank says:

      Bases loaded, no out, with all our speed on the bases, Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez and Robinson Cano due up. Teixeira draws a walk. Still no one out. We get one. more. run. I’m not happy about that. You can be thrilled if you like.

  16. Accent Shallow says:

    Come on, you have to put that bum away.

  17. Mike Axisa says:

    Hate 0-2 homers. Hate ‘em.

  18. Dela G says:

    oops i meant to say wells crushed that here

  19. Salty Buggah says:

    ewww 0-2 HR !!

  20. Dela G says:

    love those random curse words on the tv audio

  21. Tank the Frank says:

    AJ: This game isn’t NEAR close enough. Lemme throw an 0-2 cookie!

  22. Dorian says:

    If anybody other than Hughes, Coke or Mo pitch in this game I will be highly upset. I really only want to see Hughes and Mo. But I can understand Coke because he has been pitching extremely well as of late.

  23. Riddering says:

    Belatedly:

    An incredible slide home by Tex…only to have a terrible call by the ump. There are frustrating calls and then there calls that have me tearing my hair out. Ugh. I hope Tex gets payback in his next AB.

  24. I thought the fan that threw it back onto the field had a pretty good arm.

  25. DreDog says:

    Girardi needs to get ejected.
    The Yanks are just barely missing the boat.

  26. dkidd says:

    michael kay is dumb

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      this is well documented. Just last night he said his favorite Jack Nicholson movie was As Good As It Gets. Obviously never saw Cuckoo’s Nest, A Few Good Men, The Shining, The Postman Always Rings Twice, Hoffa…ETC ETC ETC.

  27. Salty Buggah says:

    Does Matsui lead the league in groundouts to 2B? I’m actually asking seriously? is there a way to find out?

    • whozat says:

      I think b-ref might have that kind of data…you’d have to do some work, probably, but I think they have the outcome of every AB on there.

      • pete says:

        he doesn’t even lead the team – every cano slump (there are a lot of them, btw) has like a 73% chance of a 4-3

  28. BigBlueAL says:

    WTF was that??

  29. whozat says:

    That was ridiculously stupid. Just horrible.

  30. Dela G says:

    having the catcher try and steal?

    :facepalm:

  31. Mike Axisa says:

    You’re fast for a catcher, Cervelli. But that means you’re still slow.

  32. Riddering says:

    Cervelli was so close to stealing. So close.

    I wish Girardi had gotten himself ejected over the Tex call. Cervelli would have gotten himself another HR. ;)

  33. Mike bk says:

    im guessing burnett, coke, bruney, mo the rest of the way. saving hughes to back up wang tomorrow with ace having been extended yesterday

  34. If we leave this inning with the lead, which is of course no guarantee, who would you like to see in the 8th?

  35. Tank the Frank says:

    The YES promo should just say:

    “The Yankees are ready for some fireworks in the Bronx as they battle it out with the Blue Jays and take their obligatory beat-down from Roy Halladay. Only… on YES!”

  36. djmny711 says:

    any chance hughes gets action in the 8th if aj gets outta this inning?

  37. Jamal G. says:

    The Yankees’ defense has made A.J. throw two extra pitches today, the bums.

  38. dkidd says:

    “it’s an independence day battle as the yankees go and get their fucking shineboxes. only on YES!”

  39. Moshe Mandel says:

    Swisher uses two hands on every possible pop up. Very impressive fundamentals.

  40. Ivan says:

    AJ has been stellar in his last couple starts.

  41. Jamal G. says:

    Mr. Butterfield, I’m sure feel you Marco Scutaro is a dynamo at short stop, but we all know that Nick Green > All.

  42. Mike Axisa says:

    Nice job by YES showing Bruney with his hands down his pants in the background when Hughes and Coke were warming up.

  43. pat says:

    And like that, Burnett has lost the strikezone.

  44. Salty Buggah says:

    cmon AJ get out of this inning

  45. Ivan says:

    Isn’t it time for the yanks to can God Bless America?

  46. Mike Axisa says:

    Well done AJ, well done indeed.

    • Salty Buggah says:

      could’ve been better as that 0-2 HR is still pissing me off but yes 7 IP 2 ER is awesome

    • Tank the Frank says:

      I think it’s safe to say he’s “found his groove.” If CC and A.J. have 2nd halves that are even comparable to last season, this team is in great shape.

  47. Dela G says:

    AJ fought that at-bat and got his popup

  48. I dunno about you guys but I take 7 IP 2 ER from the starter 24/7/365

  49. Tank the Frank says:

    Are these queer ass umps behind home plate Blue Jays fans?

    • Mike bk says:

      yea. they were there in toronto and i saw them when the jays were in atl

      • Tank the Frank says:

        That makes it even more sad. That means that two guys – from Canada – came up with this idea and thought it was soooo badass that they absolutely had to travel around the country to do this.

        It’s not even clever. And they’re really into it too. It’s just a waste of time.

    • Dela G says:

      yes

      the yankees paid for them to be there though…

    • Tank the Frank says:

      It’s not even clever.

  50. Mike Axisa says:

    Sounds like Coke will start the 8th with Lind due up.

    • DreDog says:

      Hughes warms up a lot in relation to the games he gets into. That’s not a great thing.

    • MattG says:

      If it is 3-2, I pitch Lind with Coke, Rolen with Hughes, and Overbay with Rivera.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        That’s overkill. Coke for Lind then Hughes for the rest of the inning is fine.

        • MattG says:

          Perhaps, but why not? Rivera will pitch the ninth, so why not get the better matchup in the 8th?

          We are assuming 2 outs and no one on. If there are runners on, then you probably want Rivera vs Overbay even more.

    • Ivan says:

      If that’s the case then Tuesday’s game with Hughes not pitching the 8th makes it even more absurd since he said Bruney is his “8th inning guy”

  51. dkidd says:

    i hate scutaro

  52. Mike Axisa says:

    Jeter with a baserunning blunder. He’s not an every day player.

    /Swisher hater’d

  53. Tank the Frank says:

    Had to be done. Jeter knew he hadn’t erased two baserunners yet today.

  54. Dorian says:

    That’s the first time in my life I’ve seen Jete do somethin like that.

  55. dkidd says:

    aj deserves to win this game. the rest of the team, not so much

  56. pat says:

    I respectfully request a do over for that inning.

  57. It’s like the Yankees are giving Burnett the Johan Santana treatment // Mets’d.

  58. Riddering says:

    Jete is padding his stats again.

    Oh wait.

  59. whozat says:

    Look at that mental mistake on the basepaths. What a disgrace. They need to trade for a new shortstop. I mean, that’s the deal with Swisher, right? So it must apply to Jeter too?

  60. Ivan says:

    Phil Coke is a hell of a drug.

  61. pat says:

    Too bad marte isn’t healthy we could have a reliever for each batter.

  62. Ivan says:

    Look it’s Phil Hughes YAY!

  63. Dela G says:

    well cmon phil, you got this

    let him pitch the 8th and 9th

  64. Hughes for the 1.1 IP save? anyone?

  65. Dela G says:

    damn it, that hitting streak got extended

  66. MattG says:

    You CANNOT triple up on fastballs like that. That is stupid pitch selection.

    • Drew says:

      With that type of control you CAN. But, sometimes a good hitter will take what ya give.

      • MattG says:

        Sorry, you are wrong. Rolen hadn’t seen anything else. He is prepared for one pitch and one pitch only: an outside fastball, and that is what Hughes gave him. Did you see the swing? It was the only thing he was looking for. Any other pitch has a much better chance of getting him out.

        • Not necessarily. The more he sees the same pitch, the more he’d think that Hughes will pull the string on the next pitch. It’s a little bit of reverse psychology.

          • MattG says:

            He can think about it all he wants, but he hasn’t seen it. The only thing he knows he can handle is the outside fastball. He’s thinking (and the swing bears this out) “if I get that again, I’m going to poke it to RF.”

          • Tank the Frank says:

            Hitters can’t over-think like that. Down 0-2 on 2 pitches in the exact same location, he has to be thinking he’ll go there again… or at least be ready for that outside corner. You have to at least show him a pitch inside, but inside for a ball, or a curve in the dirt, then go back out there.

        • DreDog says:

          I agree they were three straight identical pitches. They were good pitches, but he probably should have thrown something else before going to the well for the third time.

          • MattG says:

            The Hardball Times studied this, and found all major leaguers hit something well over .400 on doubled-up fastballs, much less tripled-up. It is documented.

            They also do much better against doubled-up breaking balls, although not as well as the fastball.

            • MattG says:

              sorry, that should’ve been replied to Drew.

              • DreDog says:

                I realize. I agree with you.

              • Drew says:

                I understand your opinion and I understand that there is statistics that may back up your opinion. I also understand that you, and I, are sitting by our computers, I trust Cervelli and Hughes, they thought they’d get him with the pitch. There’s nothing wrong with Hughes trusting his fastball and giving up a bit of a punch dunker to right.

                • MattG says:

                  Yeah, except Cervelli and Hughes are both young, and that stuff probably worked in their previous gigs. 0-2 hits have a way of hurting. 0-2 hits in the 8th inning of a one run game really can have a way of hurting. It worked out, though.

        • Drew says:

          lol, whatever you say. I didn’t realize Rolen was hitting 1.000 when seeing 3 consecutive fastballs. You should call the game, fire Cervelli.

    • He’s throwing 96 with good location. Not the worst thing.

  67. Tank the Frank says:

    Don’t do it Vernon.

  68. dkidd says:

    come on phil. red cap power!

  69. Riddering says:

    Hughes is one smooth fielder.

  70. pat says:

    If only there was a way for the catcher to inaudibly signal what pitch he wants instead of going out to the mound every time.

  71. bobtaco says:

    Hughes-y!!

  72. Salty Buggah says:

    phew Philly

  73. Little Bill says:

    Great job again by Phil. I thought Bruney was the 8th inning guy. Good to see Hughes take the job.

  74. Jake H says:

    I don’t like Hughes there. I would have saved him for tomorrow to go if Wang sucks it up.

  75. Tank the Frank says:

    No strikeouts? Bah.

  76. Salty Buggah says:

    11 of 15 pitches were strikes. He just didn’t finish them off after getting ahead or he would have gotten 2 K’s.

  77. Dorian says:

    To become a star Phil has to own the inside corner to righties and lefties.

  78. Ivan says:

    Hughes did his job.

  79. Drew says:

    Al ftw!

  80. V says:

    STAT PADDER!

  81. Mike Axisa says:

    Pad those stats baby, pad those stats.

  82. BigBlueAL says:

    Bandbox.

  83. pat says:

    That made such a pretty sound. I want that as my ringtone.

  84. Riddering says:

    LOLOLOL.

    Alex swatted that one like it was nothing.

  85. bobtaco says:

    A Cashman Birthday bomb from Arod.

  86. Ivan says:

    I thought A-Rod was shot.

  87. dkidd says:

    bottle that swing

  88. DreDog says:

    Blammooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

  89. Salty Buggah says:

    I think Alex HRs here…motherfucker did it while I was typing.

  90. Will (the other one) says:

    A-RAWD HAS OPPOSITE-FIELD POWAHHHHHH!

    /Francesa’d

  91. MattG says:

    Figures. We were all ready winning.

    /axl’d

  92. Dorian says:

    I wish Tex was as done as Alex is. LMAO

    FACE PALM

  93. Mike bk says:

    As much as a i love how Hughes is succeeding right now he needs to be working outings for innings not just outs. the longer this goes on the more frustrated i get because they are coming up with more and more excuses to keep him here and pitch 3 innings a week and 12 inning months hurt this team in the future.

    I also agree the one disturbing thing i am seeing with hughes pitching is even while he is being aggressive and firing strikes he is not firing them at the inside part of the plate.

    • Tank the Frank says:

      I agree. I think the Yankees get bullpen help by the trade deadline.

      • Mike bk says:

        i didnt say they needed help. you can bring up melancon to do what they are having phil do right now or if you have a long man let ace do it.

        • Drew says:

          I don’t understand what makes people so sure that Melancon is a shoe-in good reliever in MLB. It’s not that easy to do what Phil is doing.

    • MattG says:

      Maybe they’ll get a couple more runs and Phil can Phinish.

  94. Tank the Frank says:

    Someone wake Buster Olney.

  95. Jake K. says:

    I wonder if pitching out the pen right now is not only hurting Hughes’ development in terms of innings, but in that he’s only throwing two pitches. He’s succeeding with just a fastball and curve in relief, but he’ll need more as a starter and should be developing them.

    • Tank the Frank says:

      He can succeed with just those two pitches, as many pitchers do, but I think his cutter has become a legit third pitch that he’s already developed.

      • whozat says:

        He started throwing the cutter last year, and he also needs to work on his change. He could do fine as a third starter with the two pitches, probably, but to achieve his potential, he needs

        1) innings
        2) command/confidence in the cutter and/or the change

        he’s getting neither by pitching in the pen.

  96. Tom Zig says:

    2009 Matsui = 2008 Jason Giambi?

  97. Tom Zig says:

    Imagine Matsui with a Jason Giambi porn stache…

  98. Tank the Frank says:

    Awesome stat by Michael Kay!! 12 of A-Rod’s 13 HR have come when the run diff. was within two.

    Uuuuuuuber clutch!

  99. Jamal G. says:

    Heh, the Blue Jays do not stand one iota of a chance with this strike zone and Mo on the mound.

  100. pat says:

    Someone needs to tell Mo to shave.
    Dibs not me.

  101. Drew says:

    lol at Chavez

  102. Dela G says:

    man tomorrow is going to suck hardcore.

    Those umpire guys will be calling a boatload of strikes with roy up…

  103. Mike Axisa says:

    Mo’s finished. He gave up those two homeruns two months ago.

  104. Dela G says:

    YANKEES, WIN!

  105. dkidd says:

    cervelli: great job!

    mo: who are you?

  106. John Duci says:

    I think Mariano Rivera is the most valuable player on the Yanks.

    • whozat says:

      Nope.

      It’s probably one of the position players or CC.

    • Jamal G. says:

      I think you’re insane.

    • Dela G says:

      he’s been the most valuable for almost a decade, with the one hiccup being that world series game against the dbacks…

      • Jamal G. says:

        He’s a reliever. He has never been the most valuable player on any team; ever.

      • whozat says:

        He’s been the most comfort-inducing, the best security blanket, sure. Most valuable? Nope.

      • Stephen says:

        Hmm no, Jeter probably has been.
        Yea since 2002 WAR Jeter-35.7 MO- 18.4

      • Dela G says:

        thats ok, we can agree to disagree :)

        • whozat says:

          …I guess.

          I mean…you basically said “the sky is green,” we said “no, look, it’s blue.”

          “Agree to disagree.”

          What?

          • Stephen says:

            When in Rome….

            • pete says:

              this.
              also mariano i would say has been the best at his position. but value is actually moderately calculable, and by zero statistical evidence is mariano the most valuable player on that team, nor has he ever been. but on the other hand, he is god, which means he can make the team win at will which would be more valuable if he weren’t such a goddamn good, fair guy. I mean i know the redsox fans “deserved” a WS win, but 2? Oh he also doesn’t pump his fist and has the respect of the opposition, which gives the yankees a lot of wins every year, although A-Rod takes some of them away by hitting home runs.

  107. Drew says:

    Kim Jones didn’t get an interview, she looked pissed.

  108. Salty Buggah says:

    Mo-licious

  109. Salty Buggah says:

    I heart Good pitching by the Yanks. It’s been a while.

  110. AJ says:

    mo-ed em down.

  111. bobtaco says:

    AJ, 5 of the last 7… 3-1 in the last 4 with a 0.99 ERA

  112. Off topic:

    Via Kiley McDaniel’s Twitter:

    gary sanchez expected to join GCL team within 2 weeks; not on 2010 contract like many 7/2 signees.

  113. Mike bk says:

    from jorge arangure twitter:

    @YankeesWFAN only way they would be catching up to Cervelli was if Cervelli was catching against self since he’s greatest signal caller ever

  114. Drew says:

    Heyman say’s Yanks are the early front runners on Chapman. Talk about early! Nobody even knows where he is…

    • Mike bk says:

      if he is 26 like the times said stay away. but yea he wont be a FA before 2010 so no sense talking about it yet really.

    • pat says:

      Dude Chisox fans think they have this thing in the bag, I can’t want to break their hearts.

    • Tank the Frank says:

      No shit he could be back in Havanah with a bag over his head and jumper cables attached to his nuts for all we know.

      Stellar work by Heyman – who I absolutely abhor. The Yankees have the most money… therefor they are the front runners for Chapman. Great reporting.

      Would be cool though. :-)

  115. pat says:

    Just got tickets to Zmac’s next start on monday in trenton.. Awesome

  116. Dela G says:

    How many hits do the yankees get off of halladay tomorrow?

    i say 5 hits, 9Ks and maybe a run off of him.

  117. whozat says:

    I love how Joe and AJ were both like “yeah, the good pitching is all about fastball command and throwing strike one”

    But for the media it HAS to be that making that vow a month ago and “something inside” that is driving him to pitch better. Sorry guys, it’s not magic and heart…it’s about hitting your spots and changing speeds, just like it always has been.

  118. pat says:

    Somebody needs to tell Bruney that hat is absolutely ridiculous.

  119. The Fallen Phoenix says:

    I really like how the media is really trying to make this game a story about the 8th inning (and how Bruney wasn’t in it), and no one on this team thinks it’s a big deal.

    • The Fallen Phoenix says:

      “When the phone rings, everybody grabs their gloves and gets ready. I think it’s a little ridiculous I have to answer these questions again and again.”

      ~Brian Bruney.

      Looks like that debate about innings roles the other day – and how relievers need them – was a little off the mark, doesn’t it?

      • whozat says:

        I guarantee you that, despite him saying this stuff, some talking head will segue with “Bruney says he doesn’t care, but you can see he really does, Kruk-y can you talk about that?”

        and then they’ll go right back to the same old story from the same old angle.

  120. whozat says:

    I _loved_ that.

    Kim: “Phil…What changes when you get that call in the 8th inning?”
    Hughes: “Nothing. Nothing at all.”

    Done. Period. No gratifying their need for drama.

  121. pat says:

    Keyshawn is so bad on JRB

  122. Kevin Goldstein on ESPN.com:

    Jesus Montero, C, Yankees (Double-A Trenton)
    Thursday’s stats: 2-for-5, HR (5), R, 2 RBI, K
    Basically, if you go deep in a fourth straight game, you make the Minor League Update, and continue to do so until the streak ends. If you need someone else to keep track, the 19-year-old Venezuelan product is now 8-for-14 in those four games with 24 total bases, upping his season averages to .325/.395/.571 (batting/on-base/slugging). For a teenager in Double-A, that is entering nutsy cuckoo territory.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/fan.....ects090703

    • Drew says:

      love it.

    • The Fallen Phoenix says:

      Yeah, Montero was listed first in Goldstein’s daily Minor League Update today under the heading, “Let’s just call it the Josh Vitters rule,” who is one of the other few prospects who have made that on consecutive days. Goldstein generally likes to spotlight as many different prospects as possible, so it takes some kind of talent (like Montero’s) to show up on consecutive days like he has.

      Man, it’s exciting to have a bat like that in the Yankees minor league system.

      • pat says:

        Man, it’s exciting to have a bat like that in the Yankees minor league system.

        Noooooo shit. Kinda makes you forget a few of our big ticket pitchers(Brack+Dell) have been scuffling. It’s easy to fall in love with the power numbers but the thing I love the most is 7k‘s in 86 PA’s. For a 19yr old who just got called up to AA that’s so ridiculous.

  123. ArodMVP217 Retire 51 says:

    Re: Hughes’ role; Can they note a reliever innings as long as he is getting continuous work and theoretically say that the stress on the arm of 80 innings would be ~140-170? it seems like a new frontier, although some guys have increased the innings substantially.

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