Yanks reportedly working on deal for Arroyo

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Jeff Fletcher at AOL Fanhouse says the Yanks and Reds are working on a deal centered around starter Bronson Arroyo. Arroyo has been removed as the Reds probably starter for tomorrow, and apparently the two sides are haggling over how much of the ~$17M left on his deal will be payed by Cincy. Arroyo has made at least 32 starts and thrown at least 200 innings every year since 2005, but he has a 4.94 ERA over the last two seasons. In the NL Central.

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  • AMS223

    I dont know whats worse…the results he will have, or mike francesa’s reaction

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Meh, he’ll talk about how awesome the 2004 Red Sox were, bash Cashman (even though he loves the move), talk about how Joba and Hughes can both stay in the bullpen forever, and mention Nate McLouth.

      We all know his reaction already. No need to listen for it, you can write it yourself.

      • Bryan

        Don’t forget he’ll mention Andy Pettitte is a starting pitcha.

  • jsbrendog

    why? this will undoubtedly cost mroe then duchscherer player wise, and i can’t see it being equal to or less than snell….i would go for both of them and then throw it all at the wall….

    i mean, arroyo is kinda not good.

    whatever.

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

      What you don’t think a flyball RHP with bad peripherals last time he was in the AL won’t me a smashing success?

      • Lanny

        Because teams that need a starter don’t trade for guys rehabbing off major surgery and hope that guys can step right in and pitch.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          They also don’t trade for guys who haven’t been good pitchers since the early days of the Iraq War.

          • Doug

            the iraq war began when arroyo was in college?

  • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

    I will be so upset. If Bronson’s the only option keep Mitre in the rotation, he’ll give you the same as Arroyo.

    • yankeegirl49

      My thoughts exactly!

  • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

    The fact that they will most likely give up nothing and won’t be paying all of his 11 million that he’s owned next season, it’s not a terrible move.

    It’s a better option than Mitre at the 5, and he’s a perfect #4 when Joba gets to his innings limit.

    Also, with Cash saying that Hughes will def remain in the pen for the rest of 09, it makes even more sense.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      The fact that they will most likely give up nothing and won’t be paying all of his 11 million that he’s owned next season, it’s not a terrible move.

      The fact that he’s under contract for 2010 makes it a bad move, though. He better not keep Joba or Hughes from being in the 2010 rotation. I may have to kick Cashman in the nuts if the presence of Bronson Arroyo on our 25 man roster bumps Joba or Phil from a starting spot.

      • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

        CC/AJ/ and then Joba/Hughes/Arroyo for the last 3. Wang is most likely done for 2010.

        So to answer your question, no.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Wang is most likely done for 2010.

          Where did you get that from? Wang is most likely done for 2009, yeah, but where did they say he’s out for next year too?

          Oh, and, I’d rather give that third spot to the winner of Ian Kennedy/Sergio Mitre/Ivan Nova/Zach McAllister than Bronson Arroyo.

          • Tony

            So now you’re counting on Wang after two seasons of inactivity/ineffectiveness? And we’re not talking Arroyo ineffectiveness, we’re talking historic “OMFG MY EYES!!!” ineffectiveness.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Did I say I was “counting” on Wang? No. I just wanted to know where it said he wasn’t in our plans.

          • Phil McCracken

            If Wang is getting shoulder surgery due to a new tear, he’ll be done for 2010 as well.

          • Joseph M

            Wang is less than 25 wins away from the end of his career. He is the Ed Figueroa of the 21st century.

            • wilcymoore

              I’m afraid you’re probably right.

      • Doug

        think arroyo would essentially mean no pettitte next year

        • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

          Pettitte is definitely gone but they shouldn’t replace him with someone *worse*

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          There would still be numerous other options available in free agency on a one year deal (plus in-house options like Kennedy/Mitre/etc.) who would be better pitchers than Bronson Arroyo.

          • Doug

            don’t disagree with you or leokitty. just saying that this would definitely mean that pettitte’s gone

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Yeah, but we probably already knew that.

              • Doug

                maybe, except pettitte does eat innings. with no arroyo, could bring pettitte back to get us 200 innings again next year. with arroyo, that “role” is his.

      • toad

        Agree. I’ll hold him while you kick.

    • whozat

      “and he’s a perfect #4 when Joba gets to his innings limit.”

      This is the thing…he probably ISN’T. You’re assuming he’s the guy you remember from five years ago. But he’s not. He’s got a near-5 ERA in the NL central.

      • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

        Who’s a better option? Mitre? Please….

        Are we really getting crazy over a guy who’s a #4 or 5 that will cost nothing?

        • whozat

          He’ll cost money and a rotation spot for 2010.

          The thing is there’s no reason to think Arroyo will be better than Mitre, and with Mitre, if he sucks you can just cut him.

          Look, if he’d been DFA’d and we signed him for the minimum, I’d be fine. If the Reds are taking Zack Kroenke and paying like…14 mil through 2011, so the Yanks won’t really be wedded to this guy, then OK.

      • Drew

        But Francessa says Arroyo only has a bad start once in a while. That’s why his era is inflated.
        See:
        http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2009

        He’s only allowed at least 5 runs in 10 of his 20 starts!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          See?

          GET ME ARROYO’S LAST 5 STARTS!
          (chucks Diet Coke can across room)

          • The Scout

            One of the good starts was against the Mets — so that doesn’t count, either!

    • http://leegrantphotography.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/madmax.jpg gxpanos

      Seriously?

      Take a gander at how ugly his peripherals are this year.

      In the NL central.

      1.47 WHIP, under 6 K/9, 3.4 BB/9. Not to mention the ERA over five and the FIP slightly higher than the ERA.

      Brandon Arroyo is AWFUL. Mitre will do the same thing for a fraction of the cost. And next year Arroyo is owed ELEVEN MILLION.

      And all those numbers are not a one year aberration, but a three year trend.

      I can’t stress enough how bad this trade is.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Brandon Arroyo is AWFUL. Mitre will do the same thing for a fraction of the cost. And next year Arroyo is owed ELEVEN MILLION.

        While I’ll agree with you that Arroyo’s a bad acquisition, the “He’s owed 11M next year” is a bit of a red herring, because we’re not going to be on the hook for most of that. Cashman and Jocketty are haggling over how much money they’re going to be paying us to offset his contract obligations.

        FWIW.

        • http://leegrantphotography.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/madmax.jpg gxpanos

          I suppose that makes it a little better. As long as Cash only gives up a bag of balls.

          The thing that really would irk me is if the Arroyo acquisition precludes a deal for Duchscherer.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Agreed.

            Duke >>> Arroyo, both in ability and in risk.

            • The Scout

              It isn’t the money, it’s the space. Arroyo will use up a roster spot this winter and next year.

              • Doug

                he replaces pettitte

        • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

          The more cash they give us, the more likely it is we’re not just giving them a worthless prospect (if this happens, please don’t happen).

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            True, which makes this worse. Because we’re either paying in money for Arroyo or paying in prospects for Arroyo.

            And the only appropriate thing to pay for Arroyo is nothing. He’s only worthwhile if he’s virtually free.

      • wilcymoore

        You nailed it … totally agree.

  • SoCalYankeeFan

    Gag me!!!

  • Adam

    this is so stupid, you have a guy in house who would be better than arroyo and he costs the league minimum and no prospects. Arroyo isn’t even that good.

  • http://leegrantphotography.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/madmax.jpg gxpanos

    NO!

  • John Duci

    I hope not

  • Dela G

    please god no

    thats like signing up for john smoltz

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      No, signing up for Smoltz would be better. At least Smoltz was good once.

      • http://phabfour.blogspot.com/ Double-J

        Agreed, I’d take Smoltz 2009 every day of the week over Arroyo and his goofy leg kick.

        Maybe he should audition for the Rockettes…

  • Phil McCracken

    I’m glad they aren’t going in on the Halladay circus, because if you pass on Santana there is no way to justify giving up prospects for an older pitcher in Halladay.

    But Arroyo is going to be serving up BP in the AL East. Waste of money.

  • dc1874

    Yankees, Reds Working On Arroyo Deal
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 5:38PM By Jeff Fletcher (RSS feed)

    Filed Under: Reds, Yankees, MLB Inside Scoop, MLB Trade Deadline
    Email Print ShareText SizeAAAThe Yankees are in serious discussions with the Reds about acquiring Bronson Arroyo, although right now the deal may be hinging on how much of Arroyo’s remaining contract the Reds are willing to eat, major league sources told FanHouse on Monday.

    “It will get done,” one source said.

    Arroyo, 32, is due nearly $4 million for the rest of this season, plus $11 million in 2010 and a $2 million buyout or a $11 million option in 2012. Arroyo is 10-9 with a 5.21 ERA, but he has a 2.08 ERA in his past three starts.

    Reds top officials met via conference call this morning, an indication to one big-league source that they were “close to a deal.” Arroyo has since been removed as the Reds probable pitcher for Tuesday.

    • Crab Dribble Ointment

      Because we here at RAB are incapable of clicking a link.

      Ugh, I’m most certainly not a fan of this move. You have to figure the PAID BASEBALL SCOUTS of the Yankees are more savvy than we internet folk, so what the hell did they see in Arroyo?

  • EvoLuTioN

    i have a feeling he will enjoy the new teammates and will be dominant for us if we acquire him.

    • Brooklyn Ed

      hmm noooo…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I enjoy your enthusiasm.

      • http://phabfour.blogspot.com/ Double-J

        TSJC – I’m wondering, exponentially, how much our grit factor will increase by acquiring another former Red Sock…

        Hinske + Arroyo would be what? :P

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Honestly, if it’s just a move for depth, I can live with it depending on what we give up.

  • John Duci

    The Yanks are going to get Arroyo but I dont want him. I rather go get Washburn.

    • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

      For Melky and Gardner? Really?

      This move will cost next to nothing, except cash, which I am pretty sure the Yanks have a room for that in the stadium.

      • Spaceman.Spiff

        But Arroyo isn’t good anymore in the NL Central, he’s not gonna be a plus player in the AL East and NYS.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Well, if:

      The Yanks would have to give up “a top prospect or two” to acquire Washburn.

      is true, then no, I wouldn’t prefer Washburn over Arroyo.

      http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....laday.html

  • Drew

    Ah shit. noooooooo!

    That is all.

  • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

    Can he pitch the 8th? :)

    • wilcymoore

      All our pitchers can pitch the 8th. The Yanks lead the league in 8th inning pitchers.

  • bonestock94

    I’ll be kinda pissed if I recognize who we give up.

  • E-ROC

    I guess Ian Snell was too expensive. Justin Duchscherer must not have been to their liking. I’m not too upset if it happens.

  • EvoLuTioN

    maybe burnett could teach him a thing or two

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Maybe ARod can teach him how to field pop-ups down the first base line.

  • cor shep

    i’d be fine with this but he’s signed for next year. please let this not be true

  • http://leegrantphotography.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/madmax.jpg gxpanos

    Sweet Mo.

    Duchscherer is dangling out there…and Beane only wants a “modest prospect.”

    Why, in the name of all this is Mo-ly, would you target Arroyo when Duke is really in play? This is an absurd waste of money that looks like a panic move, even though there’s no need to panic.

    • Drew

      Cashman doesn’t know the meaning of panic. He’s the man, and everyone should know it.

  • GG

    Is Mitre > Arroyo that crazy????

    • Tony

      Yes.

    • Spaceman.Spiff

      Mitre > Arroyo is pretty reasonable.

    • Drew

      I like Mitre a lot.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I don’t like Mitre a lot, I just think he’s serviceable but probably subpar.

        Arroyo’s still a worse option, though.

        • Spaceman.Spiff

          I agree. As mediocre as Mitre probably is, he’s been the victim of some unlucky defense in his two starts so far (Johnny Damon, DP ball in the first of his last start that Cano couldn’t handle cause it kicked off the mound). He’s not a great 5th starter but he doesn’t seem that bad, certainly not worse than Arroyo’s peripherals.

  • Doug

    there’s no way we’d be paying him all the $17M.

    expect to see the reds pay him the rest of this season’s $4M, the two teams will split the difference on next season’s $11M, and we’ll have to pay the $2M buyout.

    so we’re on the hook for approx $7.5M

    • ledavidisrael

      Mad loot for him

      • Doug

        replaces pettitte’s $. and arroyo pitches pettitte’s 200 innings. that’s how i see it. arroyo replaces pettitte

        • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

          Once again, Arroyo is worse than Pettitte. By a lot.

          AND he leads MLB in homeruns surrendered, perfect fit for the team!!

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Reason #4,080 Mets fans don’t have a clue:

    http://twitter.com/_Oreo/statuses/2878448987

    [ facepalm ]

    • http://phabfour.blogspot.com/ Double-J

      Wait, so you’re telling me Arroyo ? Oreo?

      You smug Yankee$ fans are all the same! *cries*

    • cor shep

      how the hell did you find that lmao

  • JGS

    he hasn’t had a WHIP of less than 1.4 since 2006 and an ERA+ of over 100 since 2007, all in the NL Central. Yea, he eats innings, but he kinda sucks

    • JGS

      oh, and yea this is a SSS (17 innings), but he has a 7.41 ERA in October

  • pat

    Bwahaha, typical Cashman. We’ll eat Arroyo’s salary and take Cueto off their hands for our troubles.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      We wish.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    I am not happy about this at all, watch C-Money give up some really good prospect for him…I don’t want him on the team this year, next year or ever.

    • K.B.D.

      Yeah, because Cashman has shown us he’s willing to give away really good prospects in recent years, such as Jeffrey Marquez and Jose Tabata.

      • Lanny

        When has Cashman ever traded a good prospect?

        This is exactly why they are getting him! Because its all about money. If he was lookin for dominance he would send Montero to Cle for Lee.

    • http://phabfour.blogspot.com/ Double-J

      FOR…EV…ER?!?!

  • Charlie

    Why’s everyone freaking out? He’s not THAT horrible, we’ll need another starter when joba hits his innings limit, and it gives us depth. As long as we’re giving up very little for him, its not worth killing yourself over.

    • Spaceman.Spiff

      He’s pretty horrible. A 5.21 ERA along with his peripherals in the NL Central gives me no reason to hope for better when he comes out to New York.

    • Doug

      there’s no way we’ll be giving up anything for him, unless the reds pay his full contract. then maybe a b-level prospect

    • Johnny

      agree with Charlie here… who cares. if he sucks, cut him. oh, no… the yanks lost a few mill… OMG!

      i wanna see a sergio vs arroyo pitching royale for worst starter on the yanks. the one who sucks less gets the job.

      • Drew

        IMO, Sano>>>Acquiring Arroyo. Couple mil? no thanks, let’s get a mega-prospect rather then a guitar player.

        • K.B.D.

          … What? This is completely insane. The IFA draft budget is separate from the MLB budget. If the Yanks wanted to go after Sano they would have. How the hell is this relevant?

          • Drew

            The dude said, if he sucks, cut him, it’s just a few mil. If we don’t give a shit about a few mil, why not just get a mega prospect?

            • K.B.D.

              Because they’re completely different things. The 3+ million for Sano is a huge part of the IFA budget, which is separate from the MLB budget (you know, the one around 200 million). We’re not talking about the same things.

              Don’t you think if the Yankees really wanted Sano they’d be in the middle of a bidding war?

              • Drew

                Dude. The two have nothing to do with the other. You’re looking into my comment too much. The guy is saying who cares about a few mil. I’m saying, I do.

              • toad

                Huh? Doesn’t all the money come out of the same pocket? Why does it matter what budget it’s part of?

  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    …how much of the $17M owed…

    If the Reds are interested in paying about $21M of his salary owed, I’d jump on this wagon in a heartbeat.

    other than that, this Surgee-Oh! dude isnt looking all that bad…

    • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

      I’m still hoping the Jays come to the realization that GIVING us Halladay if we agree to just TAKE Wells is a good idea…

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        No.

        They’d have to give us MORE than Roy Halladay in order for us to take Vernon Wells. Vernon Wells’s massive contract instantly makes any team worse because he takes away from your ability to spend that money on actually useful players.

        He’s the Zach Randolph of baseball.

        • Charlie

          only zach randolph is a complete asshole, not sure if vernon wells is. i get your point, though

  • Charlie

    The scary part about this deal for me is this could be an excuse for the yankees to keep hughes in the bullpen for the rest of the year, next year, and eventually he’ll be a reliever his whole. THAT would suck. A lot.

    • Charlie

      *whole career

      • Chris

        Except Cashman has specifically said that Hughes will not be a reliever long term.

    • Johnny

      if that happens, it means Arroyo metamorphed into a dominant starter. if so great. but it will never happen.

    • Lanny

      Yea it sucks having a dominant reliever in the pen.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        If it means that Arroyo is in the rotation, then yes, Lanny, it would suck to have Hughes in the pen.

        Arroyo in the rotation and Hughes in the pen is MIND-NUMBINGLY STUPID.

      • john

        no, it sucks wasting a potential number 2 starter in the pen. Let me guess, you want joba in the pen, too? That’s just an embarassing arguement to make. Its very simple: Starters>>>>>Relievers

        • Doug

          well, not arroyo ;-)

      • http://leegrantphotography.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/madmax.jpg gxpanos

        I would argue, but whenever someone does you never reply.

  • Jake H

    This is a terrible move.

  • UNION YES.

    Paul Byrd > Arroyo?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Yes, only because Byrd isn’t signed through 2010.

  • dkidd

    might this mean the yankees are considering keeping hughes in the pen next year?

    • Charlie

      i’ll go into a deep depression if that happens, but it seems possible

      • Johnny

        now i’m rooting for it to happen.

        drama queens…

    • Doug

      next year’s rotation can still be: cc, aj, joba, hughes, arroyo
      (means no pettitte and no wang b/c of shoulder surgery)

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Here’s the one positive I can spin from that (since I’m always looking for both sides of the coin):

        Since Arroyo isn’t Andy Pettitte, we have zero emotional ties to him, so when he’s pitching like Bad Andy next June, we can DFA him (since we’re not on the hook for all of his 11M) and promote Ian Kennedy into the 5th spot.

        • Doug

          there you go. glass half full view doesn’t look so bad, huh ;-)

    • Johnny

      no

  • Drew

    Aol Fanhouse and their reporters have said a whole lot of shit. Hopefully this is just one of the bunch that carries no real substance.

  • Joltin’ Joe

    If, IF – we pay him a very, very marginal amount of his remaining contract ($1MM?) he at least keeps us from bringing up Igawa/Nova and could make for a long relief option. Obviously we’re not giving up anything good for this guy. But even still, I don’t expect much unless he somehow becomes old Arroyo. And I haven’t seen a Wayback Machine.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Oaktag.

  • Kingjoe793

    Whats Wrong with Cashman this is a bone head move -________- might as well go for a top quality starter or even snell !!

    • Johnny

      “top quality starter or even snell !!”

      Huh?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Well, both Snell and Arroyo probably have an equally slim chance of being successful AL East starters, but at least Snell doesn’t have a large contractual obligation (that can only be offset at the cost of a higher caliber of outgoing prospect).

        So, trading for Snell >>>>>>>>>> trading for Arroyo

      • Kingjoe793

        Saying someone like washburn , i didnt mean snell is a top quality starter , i think getting someone like washburn and then even snell is better than just chasing arroyo and his contract

        • Doug

          what if there’s no contract to chase. guys, just wait until the terms of the deal are released. cashman’s not stupid (at least let’s hope not)

  • nolan

    Get Moose on the phone! Offer him 5 million for 2 months. He’s got to be ready with his slow fastball, slower curve, and soslowyoufallasleep change up. I bet he’s better than Arroyo and it would be WAY more fun to get him back in pinstripes!

  • Lanny

    Don’t see the downside in having more pitching depth. And they obviously don’t want to trade montero and Joba for Lee.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I also don’t see the downside in more pitching depth. This was a poor way of obtaining that depth, though.

      • Doug

        to be fair, you really do have to wait to see the terms. if we’re only paying 10 cents on the dollar and the prospect we’re giving up is in the marquez mold, then the innings he’ll log could be worth it.

        • GG

          They are not going to trade Arroyo if they are picking up 90% of the tab…I don’t know if I’d even call him depth, he can’t possibly pitch well at the Stadium.

          • Doug

            and you know this how. you have to trust cashman. he’s not stupid

  • canadien tuxedo

    I have to imagaine that Kei Igawa will be heading to cincy

  • dkidd

    this could also hint that the yankees aren’t counting on having cmw next year

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  • GG

    I’m just wondering what is going through Cash’s head, how could he think this would help???? This isn’t depth, this is throwing money away

    • Doug

      not if we’re not spending any $. just wait and see the details of the trade

      • Jeremy

        I don’t see a way this can work out well for us unless the Reds eat most of Arroyo’s salary and take nothing more than a B prospect for him. Otherwise the Yankees are needlessly saddling themselves with roster and payroll inflexibility and/or thinning their farm system for a guy who’s not very good.

        That said, if the Reds are so desperate that they are practically willing to give away Arroyo, then sure, maybe it’s not such a bad idea to take him.

        • Doug

          that’s what i’ve been saying to everyone standing on the ledge here. just wait until the deal is consumated, if it ever does, before you lynch cashman.

  • Rich James

    If we get Bronson Arroyo…

    LETS BURN NYS TO THE GROUND! WHO’S WITH ME?!

    • JobaTheHeat62

      I am with you…we should all protest at the stadium..oh well when he gets here and makes his first start..he will get booed off the mound while warming up, and soon as he sucks, which he will no doubt, people will throw things at him. i bet he faces boston, he will give a solid 2 IP 12ER

  • pollo

    No.

    End of story,Cash, you sick peverted fuck.

  • Joseph M

    Typical Cashman move, what’s next a call to the Mets to see if he can steal Livan Hernandez from them?

    • Jeremy

      This (if it happens) is actually the opposite of a typical Cashman move.

      Cashman is normally very good at trading for high salary players when they still have value. The Abreu and ARod deals were masterpieces in that regard. He got Swisher for next to nothing. The Nady/Marte deal was at least good on paper.

      Going for Arroyo, who has a high salary, name recognition, and little else, does not seem like a Cashman move. It seems like a hack GM move. And that’s reason no.1 why I don’t think this will actually happen.

  • Billy Shears

    Well, on the bright side, Arroyo does have a sub 4 ERA in the second half for his career (around 3.90) and it is even better over the last 3 years (closer to 3.60).

    • Doug

      don’t give anyone the bright side. nobody on here is willing to listen

  • UNION YES.

    “MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon says that Arroyo is indeed scheduled to start for the Reds tomorrow. Tuesday’s starter had been listed as TBA in error.” (MLBTR)

  • Jeremy

    This seems like the ugly cousin of the Abreu/Lidle deal. We may not have to give up anything of value, but why take on a salary dump if a crappy player comes with it?

    Maybe next we can trade Gardner and Melky and get Gary Matthews Jr. I’m sure the Angels won’t ask for much.

  • JobaTheHeat62

    One of Brian Cashman’s most worthless ideas in his career…This trade is so bad, I wouldnt even consider giving them kei Igawa. worthless!!!!!!!!

  • A.D.

    Bah, damn minor league pitching injuries bringing the Yanks to this point.

  • A.D.

    Igawa for Arroyo and the Reds eat Kei & a lot of Arroyo’s salary… that could be doable.

  • Kiersten

    I highly doubt this is actually happening… Cash has someone else on call waiting.

  • Brian

    Just say no to Bronson Arroyo.

  • Barry

    guys, theres a 2MM buyout for next year so don’t worry about Arroyo pitching just because he’s getting paid.

    • AndrewYF

      The buyout is for 2011.

      The Reds should have to give the Yankees a prospect.

  • Tony

    They just want someone who can throw a lot of innings and not get completely bombed. Mitre has shown that he can avoid completely bombed, but he’s giving them 5 innings a start. They want a constant at the back of the rotation so that the “giveaway spot” will at least stop killing the bullpen. I don’t think they have any big money moves planned next year anyway, so that’s not really a consideration.

  • AndrewYF

    This rumor is probably bunk. The guy who reported it said earlier in the day that “something was brewing” with the Reds, and had to make something up to justify it. The Yankees apparently have scouts in Cincinatti, and Arroyo was mistakenly listed as “TBA”, so he put some pieces together and created the rumor.

  • http://thesportsshowlive.blogspot.com/ Joey H

    If you ask me, what the Yankees do will be dependent on what the Red Sox do. If they pull a huge move lets just say hypothetically Lee and V-Mart you’d have to expect a bigger trade than Arroyo. Washburn is my guy. I wanted him here last year.

    • AndrewYF

      No, it won’t be. The Yankees will do what they feel they need to do to fill out their roster adequately. You simply won’t see Cashman be reactionary, even if the Red Sox get Halladay and Adrian Gonzalez.

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  • John Duci

    No deal

  • http://twitter.com/themanchine Bruno

    I want Snell! (and Balentein)

  • gio

    Thank Mo this was a BS story.

  • AJ

    NO!

  • doug

    ALthough my feeligs on Arroyo are mixed (simply can’t stomach

    watching Mitre every 5th day) & yet I know his putrid numbers

    would only get worse in the Al East. Still, this trade might be

    worth it just to witness the reaction from the Sports Pope himself.

    Can anyone imagine how enthusiastic he would be if this deal would

    come to pass? I know sickening stuff. Although, maybe just maybe,

    if he saw the attrocious Arroyo fail, he would admit his erronoeus

    judgement? Nah, he’ll probably just bully poor Minko all winter

    long.

  • doug

    Still, I think the boys in navy blue are going to acquire

    someone to shore up that fragile back end of the rotation. I

    understand no one here likes getting rid of prospects but if Mitre

    implodes– be prepared for Igawa’s return. And no one wants to see

    that (although, I’ll never forgot how he managed to shut down the

    Bosox that one time). Also, I was wondering how the River Avenue

    crew felt about another avaible Reds pitcher- Aaron Harang? I know

    he gives up way too many hits (152) in his 127 IP! Still, I view

    him as managable fix-up because of his expectional low walk

    total (only 30), descent strikeout total (110) & adequate 4.25 era

    in a notorious bandbox in Cincy. River Ave. I hypothesize- Is it

    that difficult to imagine Mr. Harang re-locating his All Star 2006

    form? Hey, I know pitching in Yankee Stadium II is no picnic but

    maybe pitching for a winner is the right tonic to cease his 2 year

    decline. Personally, I think its worth the risk if giving up a B

    prospect to take a chance on Aaron.

  • wilcymoore

    No deal then for Arroyo… What this thread proves is we’re all (well, most of us), big fans of Sergio Mitre. Go, Sergio! (LOL)

  • Tank Foster

    How can you knock a deal if you don’t know a) what, if any, other deals are even possible, and b) what we’re giving up for the guy?

    Almost any player can be a good deal, depending on the price.

    I like Arroyo…stays healthy, and he’ll get his share of wins with the Yankee offense. I hope they don’t give up too much for him.

    And I agree with the guys who are thinking ahead…Pettitte probably gone, Wang possibly gone. No way Arroyo is going to keep Joba and Hughes from being starting pitchers next year.