Jul
27

Yanks reportedly working on deal for Arroyo

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Jeff Fletcher at AOL Fanhouse says the Yanks and Reds are working on a deal centered around starter Bronson Arroyo. Arroyo has been removed as the Reds probably starter for tomorrow, and apparently the two sides are haggling over how much of the ~$17M left on his deal will be payed by Cincy. Arroyo has made at least 32 starts and thrown at least 200 innings every year since 2005, but he has a 4.94 ERA over the last two seasons. In the NL Central.

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  1. AMS223 says:

    I dont know whats worse…the results he will have, or mike francesa’s reaction

  2. jsbrendog says:

    why? this will undoubtedly cost mroe then duchscherer player wise, and i can’t see it being equal to or less than snell….i would go for both of them and then throw it all at the wall….

    i mean, arroyo is kinda not good.

    whatever.

  3. leokitty says:

    I will be so upset. If Bronson’s the only option keep Mitre in the rotation, he’ll give you the same as Arroyo.

  4. Matt H. says:

    The fact that they will most likely give up nothing and won’t be paying all of his 11 million that he’s owned next season, it’s not a terrible move.

    It’s a better option than Mitre at the 5, and he’s a perfect #4 when Joba gets to his innings limit.

    Also, with Cash saying that Hughes will def remain in the pen for the rest of 09, it makes even more sense.

  5. SoCalYankeeFan says:

    Gag me!!!

  6. Adam says:

    this is so stupid, you have a guy in house who would be better than arroyo and he costs the league minimum and no prospects. Arroyo isn’t even that good.

  7. John Duci says:

    I hope not

  8. Dela G says:

    please god no

    thats like signing up for john smoltz

  9. Phil McCracken says:

    I’m glad they aren’t going in on the Halladay circus, because if you pass on Santana there is no way to justify giving up prospects for an older pitcher in Halladay.

    But Arroyo is going to be serving up BP in the AL East. Waste of money.

  10. dc1874 says:

    Yankees, Reds Working On Arroyo Deal
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 5:38PM By Jeff Fletcher (RSS feed)

    Filed Under: Reds, Yankees, MLB Inside Scoop, MLB Trade Deadline
    Email Print ShareText SizeAAAThe Yankees are in serious discussions with the Reds about acquiring Bronson Arroyo, although right now the deal may be hinging on how much of Arroyo’s remaining contract the Reds are willing to eat, major league sources told FanHouse on Monday.

    “It will get done,” one source said.

    Arroyo, 32, is due nearly $4 million for the rest of this season, plus $11 million in 2010 and a $2 million buyout or a $11 million option in 2012. Arroyo is 10-9 with a 5.21 ERA, but he has a 2.08 ERA in his past three starts.

    Reds top officials met via conference call this morning, an indication to one big-league source that they were “close to a deal.” Arroyo has since been removed as the Reds probable pitcher for Tuesday.

    • Crab Dribble Ointment says:

      Because we here at RAB are incapable of clicking a link.

      Ugh, I’m most certainly not a fan of this move. You have to figure the PAID BASEBALL SCOUTS of the Yankees are more savvy than we internet folk, so what the hell did they see in Arroyo?

  11. EvoLuTioN says:

    i have a feeling he will enjoy the new teammates and will be dominant for us if we acquire him.

  12. Honestly, if it’s just a move for depth, I can live with it depending on what we give up.

  13. John Duci says:

    The Yanks are going to get Arroyo but I dont want him. I rather go get Washburn.

  14. Drew says:

    Ah shit. noooooooo!

    That is all.

  15. bonestock94 says:

    I’ll be kinda pissed if I recognize who we give up.

  16. E-ROC says:

    I guess Ian Snell was too expensive. Justin Duchscherer must not have been to their liking. I’m not too upset if it happens.

  17. EvoLuTioN says:

    maybe burnett could teach him a thing or two

  18. cor shep says:

    i’d be fine with this but he’s signed for next year. please let this not be true

  19. gxpanos says:

    Sweet Mo.

    Duchscherer is dangling out there…and Beane only wants a “modest prospect.”

    Why, in the name of all this is Mo-ly, would you target Arroyo when Duke is really in play? This is an absurd waste of money that looks like a panic move, even though there’s no need to panic.

  20. GG says:

    Is Mitre > Arroyo that crazy????

  21. Doug says:

    there’s no way we’d be paying him all the $17M.

    expect to see the reds pay him the rest of this season’s $4M, the two teams will split the difference on next season’s $11M, and we’ll have to pay the $2M buyout.

    so we’re on the hook for approx $7.5M

  22. JGS says:

    he hasn’t had a WHIP of less than 1.4 since 2006 and an ERA+ of over 100 since 2007, all in the NL Central. Yea, he eats innings, but he kinda sucks

  23. pat says:

    Bwahaha, typical Cashman. We’ll eat Arroyo’s salary and take Cueto off their hands for our troubles.

  24. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    I am not happy about this at all, watch C-Money give up some really good prospect for him…I don’t want him on the team this year, next year or ever.

  25. Charlie says:

    Why’s everyone freaking out? He’s not THAT horrible, we’ll need another starter when joba hits his innings limit, and it gives us depth. As long as we’re giving up very little for him, its not worth killing yourself over.

    • Spaceman.Spiff says:

      He’s pretty horrible. A 5.21 ERA along with his peripherals in the NL Central gives me no reason to hope for better when he comes out to New York.

    • Doug says:

      there’s no way we’ll be giving up anything for him, unless the reds pay his full contract. then maybe a b-level prospect

    • Johnny says:

      agree with Charlie here… who cares. if he sucks, cut him. oh, no… the yanks lost a few mill… OMG!

      i wanna see a sergio vs arroyo pitching royale for worst starter on the yanks. the one who sucks less gets the job.

      • Drew says:

        IMO, Sano>>>Acquiring Arroyo. Couple mil? no thanks, let’s get a mega-prospect rather then a guitar player.

        • K.B.D. says:

          … What? This is completely insane. The IFA draft budget is separate from the MLB budget. If the Yanks wanted to go after Sano they would have. How the hell is this relevant?

          • Drew says:

            The dude said, if he sucks, cut him, it’s just a few mil. If we don’t give a shit about a few mil, why not just get a mega prospect?

            • K.B.D. says:

              Because they’re completely different things. The 3+ million for Sano is a huge part of the IFA budget, which is separate from the MLB budget (you know, the one around 200 million). We’re not talking about the same things.

              Don’t you think if the Yankees really wanted Sano they’d be in the middle of a bidding war?

              • Drew says:

                Dude. The two have nothing to do with the other. You’re looking into my comment too much. The guy is saying who cares about a few mil. I’m saying, I do.

              • toad says:

                Huh? Doesn’t all the money come out of the same pocket? Why does it matter what budget it’s part of?

  26. King of Fruitless Hypotheticals says:

    …how much of the $17M owed…

    If the Reds are interested in paying about $21M of his salary owed, I’d jump on this wagon in a heartbeat.

    other than that, this Surgee-Oh! dude isnt looking all that bad…

    • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals says:

      I’m still hoping the Jays come to the realization that GIVING us Halladay if we agree to just TAKE Wells is a good idea…

  27. Charlie says:

    The scary part about this deal for me is this could be an excuse for the yankees to keep hughes in the bullpen for the rest of the year, next year, and eventually he’ll be a reliever his whole. THAT would suck. A lot.

  28. Jake H says:

    This is a terrible move.

  29. UNION YES. says:

    Paul Byrd > Arroyo?

  30. dkidd says:

    might this mean the yankees are considering keeping hughes in the pen next year?

  31. Drew says:

    Aol Fanhouse and their reporters have said a whole lot of shit. Hopefully this is just one of the bunch that carries no real substance.

  32. Joltin' Joe says:

    If, IF – we pay him a very, very marginal amount of his remaining contract ($1MM?) he at least keeps us from bringing up Igawa/Nova and could make for a long relief option. Obviously we’re not giving up anything good for this guy. But even still, I don’t expect much unless he somehow becomes old Arroyo. And I haven’t seen a Wayback Machine.

  33. Kingjoe793 says:

    Whats Wrong with Cashman this is a bone head move -________- might as well go for a top quality starter or even snell !!

    • Johnny says:

      “top quality starter or even snell !!”

      Huh?

      • Well, both Snell and Arroyo probably have an equally slim chance of being successful AL East starters, but at least Snell doesn’t have a large contractual obligation (that can only be offset at the cost of a higher caliber of outgoing prospect).

        So, trading for Snell >>>>>>>>>> trading for Arroyo

      • Kingjoe793 says:

        Saying someone like washburn , i didnt mean snell is a top quality starter , i think getting someone like washburn and then even snell is better than just chasing arroyo and his contract

        • Doug says:

          what if there’s no contract to chase. guys, just wait until the terms of the deal are released. cashman’s not stupid (at least let’s hope not)

  34. nolan says:

    Get Moose on the phone! Offer him 5 million for 2 months. He’s got to be ready with his slow fastball, slower curve, and soslowyoufallasleep change up. I bet he’s better than Arroyo and it would be WAY more fun to get him back in pinstripes!

  35. Lanny says:

    Don’t see the downside in having more pitching depth. And they obviously don’t want to trade montero and Joba for Lee.

  36. canadien tuxedo says:

    I have to imagaine that Kei Igawa will be heading to cincy

  37. dkidd says:

    this could also hint that the yankees aren’t counting on having cmw next year

  38. [...] Working to Acquire Arroyo Posted on July 27, 2009 by Matt Imbrogno Via Mike at River Ave. Blues, it appears that the Yankees and Reds are close to a deal that would send Bronson Arroyo to the [...]

  39. GG says:

    I’m just wondering what is going through Cash’s head, how could he think this would help???? This isn’t depth, this is throwing money away

    • Doug says:

      not if we’re not spending any $. just wait and see the details of the trade

      • Jeremy says:

        I don’t see a way this can work out well for us unless the Reds eat most of Arroyo’s salary and take nothing more than a B prospect for him. Otherwise the Yankees are needlessly saddling themselves with roster and payroll inflexibility and/or thinning their farm system for a guy who’s not very good.

        That said, if the Reds are so desperate that they are practically willing to give away Arroyo, then sure, maybe it’s not such a bad idea to take him.

        • Doug says:

          that’s what i’ve been saying to everyone standing on the ledge here. just wait until the deal is consumated, if it ever does, before you lynch cashman.

  40. Rich James says:

    If we get Bronson Arroyo…

    LETS BURN NYS TO THE GROUND! WHO’S WITH ME?!

    • JobaTheHeat62 says:

      I am with you…we should all protest at the stadium..oh well when he gets here and makes his first start..he will get booed off the mound while warming up, and soon as he sucks, which he will no doubt, people will throw things at him. i bet he faces boston, he will give a solid 2 IP 12ER

  41. pollo says:

    No.

    End of story,Cash, you sick peverted fuck.

  42. Joseph M says:

    Typical Cashman move, what’s next a call to the Mets to see if he can steal Livan Hernandez from them?

    • Jeremy says:

      This (if it happens) is actually the opposite of a typical Cashman move.

      Cashman is normally very good at trading for high salary players when they still have value. The Abreu and ARod deals were masterpieces in that regard. He got Swisher for next to nothing. The Nady/Marte deal was at least good on paper.

      Going for Arroyo, who has a high salary, name recognition, and little else, does not seem like a Cashman move. It seems like a hack GM move. And that’s reason no.1 why I don’t think this will actually happen.

  43. Billy Shears says:

    Well, on the bright side, Arroyo does have a sub 4 ERA in the second half for his career (around 3.90) and it is even better over the last 3 years (closer to 3.60).

  44. UNION YES. says:

    “MLB.com’s Mark Sheldon says that Arroyo is indeed scheduled to start for the Reds tomorrow. Tuesday’s starter had been listed as TBA in error.” (MLBTR)

  45. Jeremy says:

    This seems like the ugly cousin of the Abreu/Lidle deal. We may not have to give up anything of value, but why take on a salary dump if a crappy player comes with it?

    Maybe next we can trade Gardner and Melky and get Gary Matthews Jr. I’m sure the Angels won’t ask for much.

  46. JobaTheHeat62 says:

    One of Brian Cashman’s most worthless ideas in his career…This trade is so bad, I wouldnt even consider giving them kei Igawa. worthless!!!!!!!!

  47. A.D. says:

    Bah, damn minor league pitching injuries bringing the Yanks to this point.

  48. A.D. says:

    Igawa for Arroyo and the Reds eat Kei & a lot of Arroyo’s salary… that could be doable.

  49. Kiersten says:

    I highly doubt this is actually happening… Cash has someone else on call waiting.

  50. Brian says:

    Just say no to Bronson Arroyo.

  51. Barry says:

    guys, theres a 2MM buyout for next year so don’t worry about Arroyo pitching just because he’s getting paid.

  52. Tony says:

    They just want someone who can throw a lot of innings and not get completely bombed. Mitre has shown that he can avoid completely bombed, but he’s giving them 5 innings a start. They want a constant at the back of the rotation so that the “giveaway spot” will at least stop killing the bullpen. I don’t think they have any big money moves planned next year anyway, so that’s not really a consideration.

  53. AndrewYF says:

    This rumor is probably bunk. The guy who reported it said earlier in the day that “something was brewing” with the Reds, and had to make something up to justify it. The Yankees apparently have scouts in Cincinatti, and Arroyo was mistakenly listed as “TBA”, so he put some pieces together and created the rumor.

  54. Joey H says:

    If you ask me, what the Yankees do will be dependent on what the Red Sox do. If they pull a huge move lets just say hypothetically Lee and V-Mart you’d have to expect a bigger trade than Arroyo. Washburn is my guy. I wanted him here last year.

    • AndrewYF says:

      No, it won’t be. The Yankees will do what they feel they need to do to fill out their roster adequately. You simply won’t see Cashman be reactionary, even if the Red Sox get Halladay and Adrian Gonzalez.

  55. John Duci says:

    No deal

  56. Bruno says:

    I want Snell! (and Balentein)

  57. gio says:

    Thank Mo this was a BS story.

  58. doug says:

    ALthough my feeligs on Arroyo are mixed (simply can’t stomach

    watching Mitre every 5th day) & yet I know his putrid numbers

    would only get worse in the Al East. Still, this trade might be

    worth it just to witness the reaction from the Sports Pope himself.

    Can anyone imagine how enthusiastic he would be if this deal would

    come to pass? I know sickening stuff. Although, maybe just maybe,

    if he saw the attrocious Arroyo fail, he would admit his erronoeus

    judgement? Nah, he’ll probably just bully poor Minko all winter

    long.

  59. doug says:

    Still, I think the boys in navy blue are going to acquire

    someone to shore up that fragile back end of the rotation. I

    understand no one here likes getting rid of prospects but if Mitre

    implodes– be prepared for Igawa’s return. And no one wants to see

    that (although, I’ll never forgot how he managed to shut down the

    Bosox that one time). Also, I was wondering how the River Avenue

    crew felt about another avaible Reds pitcher- Aaron Harang? I know

    he gives up way too many hits (152) in his 127 IP! Still, I view

    him as managable fix-up because of his expectional low walk

    total (only 30), descent strikeout total (110) & adequate 4.25 era

    in a notorious bandbox in Cincy. River Ave. I hypothesize- Is it

    that difficult to imagine Mr. Harang re-locating his All Star 2006

    form? Hey, I know pitching in Yankee Stadium II is no picnic but

    maybe pitching for a winner is the right tonic to cease his 2 year

    decline. Personally, I think its worth the risk if giving up a B

    prospect to take a chance on Aaron.

  60. wilcymoore says:

    No deal then for Arroyo… What this thread proves is we’re all (well, most of us), big fans of Sergio Mitre. Go, Sergio! (LOL)

  61. Tank Foster says:

    How can you knock a deal if you don’t know a) what, if any, other deals are even possible, and b) what we’re giving up for the guy?

    Almost any player can be a good deal, depending on the price.

    I like Arroyo…stays healthy, and he’ll get his share of wins with the Yankee offense. I hope they don’t give up too much for him.

    And I agree with the guys who are thinking ahead…Pettitte probably gone, Wang possibly gone. No way Arroyo is going to keep Joba and Hughes from being starting pitchers next year.

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