Aug
31
Game 131 Spillover Thread
BySmall trade: the Yanks have acquired lightning quick outfielder Freddy Guzman from the Orioles for a PTBNL. He’s going to Triple-A Scranton, where I assume he’ll serve as an extra body once Sept. callups ransack the roster. He can’t hit, but he’s got 436 steals in 778 minor league games.
Meanwhile, how about this Andy Pettitte fella?
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Michael Kay is an ass.
So good thing Hinske didn’t get the start at 3rd tonight eh
He’s a starting pitchah.
i’m calling all my friends and neighbors as I type this
call the kids. wake the dog.
I’m curious to see if, now that he’s through 6, ESPN.com has a “Yanks’ Pettitte Perfect Through Six” headline up. I think I’ve seen a “Lester Perfect Through 2″ headline before…
Ok, so it’s up. So much for that.
Not for nothin, but I could really REALLY use a plush whistle lately.
I’m debating whether I want the luggage tag or the knit hat.
I can’t live without my Yankee Koozie.
Pettite looks great today.
Yeah, too many hits/walks though.
This .000 BABIP is unsustainable.
I predict Kay is going to say perfect game 50 times before the top of the next inning.
I understand he doesn’t believe in the jinx, but a lot of the viewers do. Does he have to be a fuckin ass about it?
I understand he doesn’t believe in the jinx, but a lot of the viewers do.
He’s right, you’re wrong. Solution: Stop believing in jinxes.
This is the most superstitious sport. Gold thongs, black cats, wearing the same shirt during each game, jumping over field lines. When I go fishing I make sure there is no fresh fruit on my boat. Call it what you want, I ain’t stopping my belief/feeling anytime soon.
All those things are the PLAYERS being superstitious.
We’re sitting here watching it on TV. We’re irrelevant to the matter.
Luke Scott is failing another Yankee audition…
Andy pitching some game….
Luke Scott reads RAB and wants to disappoint Reggie C. to be a dick.
but teh powah of teh sideburns will go BOOM!!!ll
Haha! Would he have to shave them if he came to the BX?
For the last time, SHAVE THOSE SIDEBURNS, MATTINGLY!
/MontyBurns’d
How many pitches is And up to?
Andy
66
Not that it much matters. He’s not coming out if he’s still got it going on provided Yanks are up comfortably.
This bunting thing is getting ridiculous. RAB should organize a petition/ An Open Letter to Joe Girardi:
Dear Joe,
We love ya, but you have to stop calling for sacrifice bunts.
1. Bunting is just not a percentage play in general. Here’s some evidence to back that up:
[list of relevant links].
2. With this team especially, you should not be bunting. If you give away an out with this offense, the cost of bunting is even greater.
[stats to back it up]
3. Here is a list of all the times you have called for this play this year and the results [this will take some group research]: This strategy has cost you, statistically speaking, ________runs so far this season and has maybe even cost us games.
The facts are there, and well researched. The sacrifice bunt is just a losing proposition.
Signed,
RAB
[Obviously, it is not all that black and white, there are a few situations where it makes sense and we can enumerate them, but it's pretty close to a general rule].
If we do an open letter it has to be under use of Phil Hughes.
Can’t it be both?
Again, many people agree with the anti-bunt campaign. It doesn’t make it right or wrong. Many baseball minds like the bunt in some spots. Baseball is not played on paper.
You don’t throw out situational Baseball or the skill sets of the players involved over 7 1/100ths less chance of scoring a run. That’s just silly.
For example, if I’m down 1 run at home, Brett Gardner’s at the plate with nobody out and a man on 1B, and Jason Giambi’s playing 1B for the other team, I bunt the ball right at him every day and twice on Sunday.
You have to consider the situation, not just the numbers. And with the bunt, the difference in the numbers is so negligible it’s easy to dismiss, assuming (of course) you have players that can execute it properly.
On a more philosophical level, it’s just not useful to say that baseball isn’t played on paper. This is nothing more than a straw man argument. It’s not like the anti-bunting argument was deduced from first principles with man’s reason as the only guide. Instead, it comes from a great body of statistical evidence gathered in the course of real live baseball games.
Exactly.
People researching baseball with advanced statistics aren’t saying the game should be played on paper.
They’re saying that some of the baseball wisdom we’ve taken for granted for years and years is wrong, and should be altered. That’s all.
TSJC, here was my Mattingly Retired Number reply, since the thread got closed soon after and we never git a chance to discuss it.
“Mattingly had 5 outstanding seasons and 5 sub par seasons. Career OPS+ of 127 at 1B.
I’d give it to
-Red Ruffing
-Bernie Williams
-Jorge Posada
-Joe Gordon
-Earle Combs
-Waite Hoyt
Gordon, Bernie and Jorge’s OPS is MUCH more vauable at 2B/CF/C than Mattingly’s at 1B. Hoyt, Combs, Joe Gordon and Red Ruffing are HOF players with rings wheras Mattingly has neither.
I know some fans loved him, but he’s just NOT that significant in Yankee history when compared to others.”
Whoops! Meant this to be on the bottom of the page. Will post again there.
Yankees would do well to score some runs for Andy because as long as the score remains close – especially 2-0 – the chances are pretty good that the O’s will try bunting for a basehit to get a runner on…and you couldn’t blame them if they did either.
Michael Kay is a fucking tool. Honestly, how many times is he going to say Pettittes perfect before he actually gives up a hit.
Edited by RAB: Watch the language. You know what I’m talking about.
The accepted vernacular is gay…..
No, gay is not the accepted vernacular.
“Gay” being synonymous with “bad” is wrong and homophobic.
The Yankees have just missed on so many fly-ball outs tonight. This could be 10-0 with a little luck…or wind.
Or lack of bunt attempts…
UGH, friend calls me “dude! Andy is pitching really well! Perfect through 6!”
Mind you, this is the same one that called during Burnett’s start and said “wow he’s killing”. Only when I hang up with him, Burnett gives up a 3 run bomb.
Mental note: do not pick up his calls when Yankees are pitching well…
Oh snap. Swish is on pace for the cycle.
If Nady were healthy, could you see Girardi platooning him and Swisher solely based on home/away games? Swish’s splits are uncanny.
If Swish could start hitting at home, he’d be in the MVP discussion.
At first I thought it was just luck of timing. He’s streaky and I figured his streaks just happened to occur when he was on the road. Now I’m starting to think it’s in his head and he’s pressing more at the Stadium.
Honestly, as much as it pains me to say this, Kay brought up a good point of “just feeling comfortable” in certain parks/batters boxes. In my playing days, I felt the same way.
Cycle and perfect game all in one game; first time ever?
Hairy CANNOT take this abuse. He should charge the mound!!
Gehrig hit four home runs in the same game that Lazzeri hit for the cycle. That should be even more difficult to do statistically.
F-U K-A-Y
How many outfielders would have to fall down for Swisher to get a triple in his next at bat?
5
10
All 3 outfielders would have to fall, then the ball would have to get stuck in the fence and finally Thompson has to be waiving Swish to 3rd with some redbull and a hotdog in his hands.
it would take a Happening-esque occurence.
Someone would have to make a shitty movie? Someone get Michael Bay on the phone.
Seriously guys, what is everybody’s problem with Kay saying “perfect game,” I’m curious? Is it that you actually believe he will incur bad luck with what he says? Don’t you think he has a responsibility to talk about interesting and exciting things that are happening on the field? Or is it that folks around here just love to rag on Michael Kay, and are being ornery?
I for one, like to rag on Michael Kay because I’m jealous of the job he has.
he’s hyping it to way too much and we’ll be oh so disappointed when it doesn’t happen.
Look, calling baseball games is harder than it seems. A lot of what happens and what there is to talk about, believe it or not, is the same from game to game, and they have to make it interesting every time. That’s just journalistically challenging. What’s wrong with making a big deal about something that is in fact interesting and noteworthy? And y’know what, if he does lose it, it will be disappointing! And that won’t be Kay’s fault.
Agreed. It’s his job to report what’s going on, as well as to keep the audience tuned to YES during an otherwise boring game. Plus, believing in jinxes is rather childish.
On the other hand, even as a Fordham alumn, I don’t particularly care for Michael Kay, and I’m all for bashing at his expense. =D.
Like all things Kay does, he goes way over the top.
I think it’s annoying to discuss it while the Yankees are batting and other things are going on. It’s really not that annoying to me because jinxes are not really but when he says things like “perfect through 3″ or “retired 12 in a row to start the ball game”. IMO, it’s not relevant til the 6th or 7th.
It’s not a one-time annoyance. He constantly harps on it, believing himself to trump the jinx, and talks about perfect through 1/2/3 whatever until it finally collapses.
I don’t think there’s a jinx, not really, but hearing the booth talk about it and play footage of Wells is getting to my nerves. I might have to put the game on mute.
I hope he mentions the perfect game 30 times in the next inning, just to drive all the people who get pissed off about it insane. If you’re older than 10 you can’t get mad at someone for mentioning that a pitcher has a no-hitter or perfect game going.
MORE PERFECTO FOOTAGE!
Is it okay to cry if Andy goes Perfect?
I’m semi-crying and its only been 6 innings, so yes.
what is semi-crying?
i’m on the verge of being hysterical but no tears yet?
1) Tearing.
2) One eye is leaking, while the other is dry.
3) Holding in the tears so much, it’s coming out of the nose.
I’ll cry when it happens. Right now I feel like puking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstitions
I hope Kay says “perfect game” a million more times. It doesn’t make a difference. I direct your attention to the classic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUTqSKNAH0
That said, f*** Michael Kay.
I don’t walk under ladders if I can avoid it. Call it what you want.
I call it not wanting to get hit with shit that’s on top of a ladder.
Haha nice! Yeah, ladders are trouble.
I predict someone at the top of the order will try to bunt for a basehit.
…I’ll be waiting for him when he gets home.
Buerle went to shit after his perfect game.
/perfectgamesareoverrated’d
Cone was never the same after his perfecto.
That curve is SO DIRTY tonight.
Pettittes breaking ball is DIRTY tonight.
I can’t watch anymore.
i’m so noivus.
Range.
ah damn! now i’m nervous.
SWISHER!!!!
I nearly made some fudge in my boxers.
lets go AP!!
I think Pettitte just may break RAB tonight. Atleast, I’m hoping
Just saw Arod smiling in the dug out. He must be thinking to himself… thank goodness Joe gave me the day off today.
Sucks to be right…
where did that 1-2 pitch miss? that fucker.
outside.
Recovering: Swisher does it.
Swisher …..
NICK!!!!Don’t scare me…
One day Swisher will give me a heart attack at 19 years old.
im nervous
Heh, Swish had that “Please don’t hit any more balls at me tonight please” look on his face.
Swisher: “hit it to Damon! He likes fly balls!”
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Fuck dude. Are you serious?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I’m Done.
Hinske would have had it…just kidding.
dammitttttttt let it be an error
DAMN IT
flashes of juan uribe!!!
get rid of him!!
Wow WTF Jerry!
Crap
Just die.
Pettitte could still pull a Jonathan Sanchez.
fuck you!!!
Jerry just pulled a Uribe.
Balls. Saved a hit before, but that sucks.
That’s why I can’t stand Kay. He sounds so pleased.
That’s ridiculous. I just don’t get why everybody is out for blood with Kay around here.
I’m not out for blood but I think he can be an ass in the booth.
I’m sure he was really thrilled NOT to call history. Are you serious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEc9W2-NPVs
WHAT THE HELL DID CASHMAN SIGN THIS GUY FOR?!?!?!?
(kidding)
speechless.
It’s alright, the NH is still in play.
Orrrr not.
….
oh well
i blame Kay
http://crazy-tattoo-designs.com/insane_big.jpg
dammitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
There it goes.
Okay Andy, now preserve the lead.
Now Hairston is officially a douche.
get the 3rd out Andy
Fuck u Jerry, Fuck u.
Next batter after the error gets a hit. Couldn’t see that one coming.
Girardi is pissed.
Dammit. Alright, bear down, Andy. Keep the lead. The offense has to add another run in the top of the eighth.
well that was fun for a while.
3 run homer right now
The only way that Jerry redeem himself now is if he hits a walk off HR to win the WS.
ESPN:
“Pittitte Pitching Gem”
WTF? Learn to spell his freaking name
It’s sort of French sounding…”A Small Pitching Gem” perhaps?
Has Pettitte even pitched past the 8th inning.Hairston saved Pettitte’s @$$ early in the game.Just like last year without a great defense Pettitte isn’t that good.
Give it a rest..
Edited by RAB: Last warning.
Wow, can we just permaban this d00d?
ur about to be DFA’d man.
That is incredibly offensive.
Knock it off. One more and you’re gone.
You are being nice John.
Im sorry. My bad. I was just mad Pettitte lost the no-no.
How did Hairston saving his ass? He kept a player from getting lucky on a swinging bunt, it’s like he was diving all over the field snare rocket line drives. Pettitte made a good pitch and the guy almost got lucky, his ass needed no saving.
As much as I like J-Hair. You don’t blow a PG on an error. It ain’t right.
Especially on a little league groundball. There was nothing difficult about that play.
Yea I know it really does suck, but just imagine how bad he must feel.
Couldn’t Care Less.
It’s like that old Dallas-Pittsburgh Super Bowl where Jackie Smith dropped an easy TD. “Bless his heart, he must be the sickest man in America right now.”
But those errors happen all the time. It’s just highlighted because of the situation.
He’s going to pay huge in the Kangaroo Court
Uh yeah. That’s the idea.
Well he can still get a CG shut out, that could be fun to root for?
And – oh, yeah! – the go-ahead run is at the plate. Ugh.
I always said, After 2/3 of the game (6 innings) put starters (if any are benched and will help)/Defensive upgrades in… Where Art Thou My A-Rod!!
Eh. No guarantee Arod makes the barehand play up the line a few innings prior.
Too bad this would’ve been his first inning.
This is true, both defenders have their advandages tho. Arod has the stonger arm but Hairston has more range. Arod probably makes that play but there’s no guarantee.
Should have moved hairston to a corner OF (probably RF) and put in arod at 3rd
Hindsight. Hairston made a pretty sweet play not long before that error.
A-Rod is not a defensive upgrade on anyone this season.
A-Rod at Third and Hairston in a corner is better than what was on the field.
You don’t mess with the defense when something special is going on..
And you got the Error.
fuck you jerry hairston
How did they get to this point with Jorge behind the plate? Molina must have been behind the plate until Markakis came up.
looked like he went
I blame Michael Kay for the blown perfect game/no hitter.
I get the ‘don’t be superstitious’ schtick, but he’s just FUCKING ANNOYING about it. I don’t need to hear it 5 times per minute.
John sterling is the same way so if youre going to hate, hate on everyone.
You blame the announcer? Thats sane.
The announcers do have a responsibility to let everyone know whats going on. Not everyone watches and listens to every pitch.
I dont…I really dont mind how much they talk about it. “V” obviously does care though
I agree 100%.
Wow, too bad we can’t use red font like we do on another of the message boards I post on. You’d think people would understand sarcasm when they saw it. Maybe I should have thrown in a ‘lol’ or a
.
How difficult is it to get good announcers in New fucking York?
Well, the Yanks have Suzyn Waldman, so evidently it it pretty fucking difficult.
Have you ever watched another team’s tv play by play commentators, let alone the radio commentators for other teams on their various networks? The people who do the games for the YES network are exponentially better than most other networks. Look at the people who do national broadcasts for fox and espn.
National broadcasts are a completely different animal.
I haven’t heard all of the other teams announcers, but I can’t fathom one of them having someone worse than Suzyn Waldman.
She brings absolutely nothing to the table from a baseball perspective, and the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard is preferable to her voice.
I was watching the David Cone perfect game a couple weeks ago, him and sterling were so much worse, every other sentence was “David Cone is pitching a perfect game”
The sun’s not yellow, it’s chicken!
Something is happening, and you don’t know what it is. Do you, Mr. Jones?
I blame Michael Kay for Swine Flu.
FUCK YOU JERRY HAIRSTON!
UGHH but it was suchh an easy play!!
*APPLAUSE*
Bravo Andy, better luck next time.
THIS.
Well done, Artist.
Thanks, there’s so much luck involved in no-hitters/perfect games that’s its nothing to get down about. Andy’s still pitching a hell of a game.
Co-sign, that was all that needed to be said.
/stands and claps in living room to pay homage to Andy
That certainly beats all the people cursing at Jerry Hairston or blaming announcers.
AP just brought his ERA down to an even 4.00. Another scoreless inning and he’ll be under 4 ERA for the year. That’s something to root for . . . along with cheering for the win.
I’m starting up the debate. Andy for game 2 playoff starter over AJ?
No. They’ll have home field advantage, and AJ’s better at home while Pettitte’s better on the road.
Wow, I thought that was twisting foul.
And to think people here wanted them to not resign Andy. There is much to be said for being lefty at the Stadium and NY experienced.
Inaccurate. Plenty of people who comment here wanted the Yanks to bring back Andy this year.
Markakis has a rifle attached to his shoulder.
Jeter has his juju back.
STOP. THE. BUNTING.
Damn, can u make a better throw from right? That was a lazer.
why are we bunting? this is sadistic.
not the bunt!!
Bunt him over baby.
As bad as that may sound, I’m glad it was Hairston in there to commit the error and lose the perfecto instead of A-Rod. If it were A-Rod he (and we) would never heard the end of it.
absolutely agree with that.
Yeah.
assuing arod mimicks everything hairston did today, right?
Damon should be fined for not bunting Jeter over.
YES!!!
Really?
sorry meant to be a reply to BigBlueAL
would that have happened had we bunted? now fucking stop bunting.
Much agreed.
I judge every perfect game possibility against Mussina’s 8 2/3 against the Red Sox in ‘01. Carl Everett’s hit was the most gut-wrenching moment of my baseball-watching life. This experience was definitely not even close. Lots of fun, actually. Good job, Andy.
Ugh, I hated that.
Agreed. That was very difficult to stomach.
Jurassic Carl’s hit to break up Moose’s perfect game was rough, but there was another moment that very same season that was clearly, hands-down, more gut-wrenching for Yankees fans.
Luis Gonzalez.
One Louis Gonzalez, I presume? Yes. Yes, it was.
Johnny, ftw.
Tack ‘em on, Tex!
You can make a case that the best thing Girardi has done this season was switching Jeter-Damon at the top of the order.
Off the top of my head, yeah, I agree.
I agree also.
In high school, my perfect game was broken up on the last out of the game on a throwing error by the SS. We called him “E” for the rest of the season.
Glory days. They’ll pass you by. Glory days.
Two years ago, those were my glory days. I should just end my life now. BRB.
Check ya later.
I suggest we change Hairstons nickname to Hair-E.
LOL love it
I think J.O. would fit Hairston for the rest of the season.
Cool story Hansel.
That was a stat padding single. He should of given up an out to move the runner over. That is how you play the game the right way.
I love this offensive barrage right after the PG/NH broke.
meaning 3 straight singles……..
They’re just trying to set it up for Hairston to have a grand slam.
I inadvertently posted this as a reply above, but…
I’ve got to ask – Andy for game 2 playoff starter over AJ?
Depends on how the rest of the season plays out/our opponent.
Yeah, depends on the matchup, I guess.
He’s building a case for it.
Eh, Andy is hot right now. Last month AJ was hot. Hope AP continues his ridiculous stretch but I’ve got to think AJ is the way to go in a game 2.
No, it’ll be AJ. Andy will start game 3.
What are you thinking, Matt? You’re no Jose Molina.
cano has been almost perfect with RISP since that walkoff. maybe he has been perfect.
OMG WHAT A JINX!
/RAB’d
still
cano says SCREW YOU!!
well, well
Cano with RISP – ugh.
O RLY?!
http://mashable.com/wp-content.....ya_rly.jpg
Something about blind mouse and a nut . . . Nice job Robbie!!!
Isn’t it blind squirrel?
I feel bad for Andy. He really deserves it. He knows tonight’s probably the best chance he’ll have for the rest of his career. It wouldn’t have hurt his HOF argument either.
Sorry guys.
I’ve been saying that Andy’s gonna do it before his career is done, but they got the first hit before I managed to get home.
CANO with the RISP correction!
CANO!!!
GAME OVER! CELEBRATE!
Wow Robbie has been better with RISP
Robbie is on fire with RISP!
The New York Yankees are prettay, prettay, prettay good.
/Larry David’d
+1
If Cano is righting himself with RISP…
Confidence level = 11
Oof, markakis in love with the cannon?
TSJC, here was my Mattingly Retired Number reply, since the thread got closed soon after and we never git a chance to discuss it.
“Mattingly had 5 outstanding seasons and 5 sub par seasons. Career OPS+ of 127 at 1B.
I’d give it to
-Red Ruffing
-Bernie Williams
-Jorge Posada
-Joe Gordon
-Earle Combs
-Waite Hoyt
Gordon, Bernie and Jorge’s OPS is MUCH more vauable at 2B/CF/C than Mattingly’s at 1B. Hoyt, Combs, Joe Gordon and Red Ruffing are HOF players with rings wheras Mattingly has neither.
I know some fans loved him, but he’s just NOT that significant in Yankee history when compared to others.”
Bernie and Jorge should get their numbers retired. I think Pettitte is a candidate as well. However, I think it’ll be one of those Paul O’Neill/21 situations: they won’t officially retire it but they won’t give it out.
Canooooo loves hitting with RISP all of the sudden.
Not as gritty as teh Pedroia
/Peter Gammons’d
Market Correction motherfuckers.
Anyone think the Yankees will pull off a trade for Thome, Dye or Linebrink. ESPN reporting all are available after the sweep this weekend.
Thome or Dye? I hope not. I’d take Linebrink.
Where are we gonna put Thome Or Dye?
I don’t see a fit anywhere. We don’t need another LH DH, Dye is not any better than Swisher or Damon, and Linebrink kind of sucks
Not that the game is over yet but, is it possible that two 1 hitters in a week is a bummer?
I called all my friends and neighbors, and now they want to know why.
Hahahaha! Nice.
Yankees are good at baseball.
Is the cycle “baseball immortality?” I don’t think so.
lol swishy take it easy
Now it’s let’s obsess over Nick Swisher time.
Is being a triple short of the cycle noteworthy? I’m saying no. Being a single or double short, sure. Maybe a jack short. But triples are essentially out of play for most baseball players.
Mike Judge plus Jason Bateman has to be great.
Anybody know of any good WR sleepers this year? I had a draft yesterday but I’m not too impressed with my WR corps.