Game 131 Spillover Thread


Small trade: the Yanks have acquired lightning quick outfielder Freddy Guzman from the Orioles for a PTBNL. He’s going to Triple-A Scranton, where I assume he’ll serve as an extra body once Sept. callups ransack the roster. He can’t hit, but he’s got 436 steals in 778 minor league games.

Meanwhile, how about this Andy Pettitte fella?


  1. Drew says:

    Michael Kay is an ass.

  2. Jackson says:

    So good thing Hinske didn’t get the start at 3rd tonight eh

  3. VO says:

    He’s a starting pitchah.

  4. Bugsy says:

    i’m calling all my friends and neighbors as I type this

  5. gio says:

    I’m curious to see if, now that he’s through 6, has a “Yanks’ Pettitte Perfect Through Six” headline up. I think I’ve seen a “Lester Perfect Through 2″ headline before…

  6. The Artist says:

    Not for nothin, but I could really REALLY use a plush whistle lately.

  7. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Pettite looks great today.

  8. Little Bill says:

    I predict Kay is going to say perfect game 50 times before the top of the next inning.

  9. Reggie C. says:

    Luke Scott is failing another Yankee audition…

    Andy pitching some game….

  10. LivefromNewYork says:

    How many pitches is And up to?

  11. Short Porch says:

    This bunting thing is getting ridiculous. RAB should organize a petition/ An Open Letter to Joe Girardi:

    Dear Joe,

    We love ya, but you have to stop calling for sacrifice bunts.

    1. Bunting is just not a percentage play in general. Here’s some evidence to back that up:

    [list of relevant links].

    2. With this team especially, you should not be bunting. If you give away an out with this offense, the cost of bunting is even greater.

    [stats to back it up]

    3. Here is a list of all the times you have called for this play this year and the results [this will take some group research]: This strategy has cost you, statistically speaking, ________runs so far this season and has maybe even cost us games.

    The facts are there, and well researched. The sacrifice bunt is just a losing proposition.



    [Obviously, it is not all that black and white, there are a few situations where it makes sense and we can enumerate them, but it's pretty close to a general rule].

    • LivefromNewYork says:

      If we do an open letter it has to be under use of Phil Hughes.

    • Drew says:

      Again, many people agree with the anti-bunt campaign. It doesn’t make it right or wrong. Many baseball minds like the bunt in some spots. Baseball is not played on paper.

      • The Artist says:

        You don’t throw out situational Baseball or the skill sets of the players involved over 7 1/100ths less chance of scoring a run. That’s just silly.

        For example, if I’m down 1 run at home, Brett Gardner’s at the plate with nobody out and a man on 1B, and Jason Giambi’s playing 1B for the other team, I bunt the ball right at him every day and twice on Sunday.

        You have to consider the situation, not just the numbers. And with the bunt, the difference in the numbers is so negligible it’s easy to dismiss, assuming (of course) you have players that can execute it properly.

      • mtt says:

        On a more philosophical level, it’s just not useful to say that baseball isn’t played on paper. This is nothing more than a straw man argument. It’s not like the anti-bunting argument was deduced from first principles with man’s reason as the only guide. Instead, it comes from a great body of statistical evidence gathered in the course of real live baseball games.

        • Exactly.

          People researching baseball with advanced statistics aren’t saying the game should be played on paper.

          They’re saying that some of the baseball wisdom we’ve taken for granted for years and years is wrong, and should be altered. That’s all.

          • The Artist says:

            TSJC, here was my Mattingly Retired Number reply, since the thread got closed soon after and we never git a chance to discuss it.

            “Mattingly had 5 outstanding seasons and 5 sub par seasons. Career OPS+ of 127 at 1B.

            I’d give it to

            -Red Ruffing
            -Bernie Williams
            -Jorge Posada
            -Joe Gordon
            -Earle Combs
            -Waite Hoyt

            Gordon, Bernie and Jorge’s OPS is MUCH more vauable at 2B/CF/C than Mattingly’s at 1B. Hoyt, Combs, Joe Gordon and Red Ruffing are HOF players with rings wheras Mattingly has neither.

            I know some fans loved him, but he’s just NOT that significant in Yankee history when compared to others.”

  12. Tank the Frank says:

    Yankees would do well to score some runs for Andy because as long as the score remains close – especially 2-0 – the chances are pretty good that the O’s will try bunting for a basehit to get a runner on…and you couldn’t blame them if they did either.

  13. John Duci says:

    Michael Kay is a fucking tool. Honestly, how many times is he going to say Pettittes perfect before he actually gives up a hit.

    Edited by RAB: Watch the language. You know what I’m talking about.

  14. MikeD says:

    The Yankees have just missed on so many fly-ball outs tonight. This could be 10-0 with a little luck…or wind.

  15. ShuutoHeat says:

    UGH, friend calls me “dude! Andy is pitching really well! Perfect through 6!”

    Mind you, this is the same one that called during Burnett’s start and said “wow he’s killing”. Only when I hang up with him, Burnett gives up a 3 run bomb.

    Mental note: do not pick up his calls when Yankees are pitching well…

  16. Oh snap. Swish is on pace for the cycle.

  17. gio says:

    If Nady were healthy, could you see Girardi platooning him and Swisher solely based on home/away games? Swish’s splits are uncanny.

    • MikeD says:

      If Swish could start hitting at home, he’d be in the MVP discussion.

      At first I thought it was just luck of timing. He’s streaky and I figured his streaks just happened to occur when he was on the road. Now I’m starting to think it’s in his head and he’s pressing more at the Stadium.

      • gio says:

        Honestly, as much as it pains me to say this, Kay brought up a good point of “just feeling comfortable” in certain parks/batters boxes. In my playing days, I felt the same way.

  18. The Evil Empire says:

    Cycle and perfect game all in one game; first time ever?

  19. MikeD says:

    F-U K-A-Y

  20. Jackson says:

    How many outfielders would have to fall down for Swisher to get a triple in his next at bat?

  21. baravelli says:

    Seriously guys, what is everybody’s problem with Kay saying “perfect game,” I’m curious? Is it that you actually believe he will incur bad luck with what he says? Don’t you think he has a responsibility to talk about interesting and exciting things that are happening on the field? Or is it that folks around here just love to rag on Michael Kay, and are being ornery?

    • John Duci says:

      I for one, like to rag on Michael Kay because I’m jealous of the job he has.

    • Bugsy says:

      he’s hyping it to way too much and we’ll be oh so disappointed when it doesn’t happen.

      • baravelli says:

        Look, calling baseball games is harder than it seems. A lot of what happens and what there is to talk about, believe it or not, is the same from game to game, and they have to make it interesting every time. That’s just journalistically challenging. What’s wrong with making a big deal about something that is in fact interesting and noteworthy? And y’know what, if he does lose it, it will be disappointing! And that won’t be Kay’s fault.

    • gio says:

      Agreed. It’s his job to report what’s going on, as well as to keep the audience tuned to YES during an otherwise boring game. Plus, believing in jinxes is rather childish.

      On the other hand, even as a Fordham alumn, I don’t particularly care for Michael Kay, and I’m all for bashing at his expense. =D.

    • MikeD says:

      Like all things Kay does, he goes way over the top.

    • I think it’s annoying to discuss it while the Yankees are batting and other things are going on. It’s really not that annoying to me because jinxes are not really but when he says things like “perfect through 3″ or “retired 12 in a row to start the ball game”. IMO, it’s not relevant til the 6th or 7th.

    • Riddering says:

      It’s not a one-time annoyance. He constantly harps on it, believing himself to trump the jinx, and talks about perfect through 1/2/3 whatever until it finally collapses.

      I don’t think there’s a jinx, not really, but hearing the booth talk about it and play footage of Wells is getting to my nerves. I might have to put the game on mute.

    • I hope he mentions the perfect game 30 times in the next inning, just to drive all the people who get pissed off about it insane. If you’re older than 10 you can’t get mad at someone for mentioning that a pitcher has a no-hitter or perfect game going.

  22. pat says:


  23. JSquared says:

    Is it okay to cry if Andy goes Perfect?

  24. Superstition is a belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge. The word is often used pejoratively to refer to folk beliefs deemed irrational. This leads to some superstitions being called “old wives’ tales”. It is also commonly applied to beliefs and practices surrounding luck, prophecy and spiritual beings, particularly the irrational belief that future events can be influenced or foretold by specific unrelated prior events.

  25. Tank the Frank says:

    I predict someone at the top of the order will try to bunt for a basehit.

  26. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Buerle went to shit after his perfect game.


  27. pat says:

    That curve is SO DIRTY tonight.

  28. John Duci says:

    Pettittes breaking ball is DIRTY tonight.

  29. LiveFromNewYork says:

    I can’t watch anymore.

    i’m so noivus.

  30. Bugsy says:

    ah damn! now i’m nervous.

  31. Johan Iz My Brohan says:


  32. danny says:

    lets go AP!!

  33. John Duci says:

    I think Pettitte just may break RAB tonight. Atleast, I’m hoping :)

  34. BklynJT says:

    Just saw Arod smiling in the dug out. He must be thinking to himself… thank goodness Joe gave me the day off today.

  35. Bugsy says:

    where did that 1-2 pitch miss? that fucker.

  36. Recovering: Swisher does it.

  37. Reggie C. says:

    Swisher …..

  38. Mr.Jigginz says:

    NICK!!!!Don’t scare me…

  39. JSquared says:

    One day Swisher will give me a heart attack at 19 years old.

  40. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    im nervous

  41. pat says:

    Heh, Swish had that “Please don’t hit any more balls at me tonight please” look on his face.

  42. John Duci says:


  43. Drew says:

    Fuck dude. Are you serious?

  44. Chili Davis says:


  45. JSquared says:

    I’m Done.

  46. MikeD says:

    Hinske would have had it…just kidding.

  47. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    dammitttttttt let it be an error

  48. Johan Iz My Brohan says:


  49. Bugsy says:

    flashes of juan uribe!!!

    get rid of him!!

  50. Salty Buggah says:

    Wow WTF Jerry!

  51. daneptizl says:

    Just die.

  52. BigBlueAL says:

    Pettitte could still pull a Jonathan Sanchez.

  53. danny says:

    fuck you!!!

  54. Mike Axisa says:

    Jerry just pulled a Uribe.

  55. gio says:

    Balls. Saved a hit before, but that sucks.

  56. Riddering says:

    That’s why I can’t stand Kay. He sounds so pleased.

  57. Johan Iz My Brohan says:



  58. JSquared says:


  59. pat says:

    It’s alright, the NH is still in play.

  60. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    oh well

  61. Bugsy says:

    i blame Kay

  62. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:


  63. VO says:

    There it goes.

  64. Mike Axisa says:

    Okay Andy, now preserve the lead.

  65. Mikey K-9 says:

    Now Hairston is officially a douche.

  66. Salty Buggah says:

    get the 3rd out Andy

  67. JSquared says:

    Fuck u Jerry, Fuck u.

  68. Tank the Frank says:

    Next batter after the error gets a hit. Couldn’t see that one coming.

  69. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Girardi is pissed.

  70. Dammit. Alright, bear down, Andy. Keep the lead. The offense has to add another run in the top of the eighth.

  71. pat says:

    well that was fun for a while.

  72. John Duci says:

    3 run homer right now

  73. Omar says:

    The only way that Jerry redeem himself now is if he hits a walk off HR to win the WS.

  74. Salty Buggah says:


    “Pittitte Pitching Gem”

    WTF? Learn to spell his freaking name

  75. Joba or Hughes to the pen says:

    Has Pettitte even pitched past the 8th inning.Hairston saved Pettitte’s @$$ early in the game.Just like last year without a great defense Pettitte isn’t that good.

  76. Drew says:

    As much as I like J-Hair. You don’t blow a PG on an error. It ain’t right.

  77. chriskeo says:

    Well he can still get a CG shut out, that could be fun to root for?

  78. Pasqua says:

    And – oh, yeah! – the go-ahead run is at the plate. Ugh.

  79. JSquared says:

    I always said, After 2/3 of the game (6 innings) put starters (if any are benched and will help)/Defensive upgrades in… Where Art Thou My A-Rod!!

  80. goon says:

    fuck you jerry hairston

  81. Moshe Mandel says:

    How did they get to this point with Jorge behind the plate? Molina must have been behind the plate until Markakis came up.

  82. Salty Buggah says:

    looked like he went

  83. V says:

    I blame Michael Kay for the blown perfect game/no hitter.

    I get the ‘don’t be superstitious’ schtick, but he’s just FUCKING ANNOYING about it. I don’t need to hear it 5 times per minute.

    • Randy A. says:

      John sterling is the same way so if youre going to hate, hate on everyone.

      • Lanny says:

        You blame the announcer? Thats sane.

        The announcers do have a responsibility to let everyone know whats going on. Not everyone watches and listens to every pitch.

        • Randy A. says:

          I dont…I really dont mind how much they talk about it. “V” obviously does care though

        • Jose says:

          I agree 100%.

        • V says:

          Wow, too bad we can’t use red font like we do on another of the message boards I post on. You’d think people would understand sarcasm when they saw it. Maybe I should have thrown in a ‘lol’ or a ;-).

      • V says:

        How difficult is it to get good announcers in New fucking York?

        • Sweet Dick Willie says:

          Well, the Yanks have Suzyn Waldman, so evidently it it pretty fucking difficult.

        • Randy A. says:

          Have you ever watched another team’s tv play by play commentators, let alone the radio commentators for other teams on their various networks? The people who do the games for the YES network are exponentially better than most other networks. Look at the people who do national broadcasts for fox and espn.

          • Drew says:

            National broadcasts are a completely different animal.

          • Sweet Dick Willie says:

            I haven’t heard all of the other teams announcers, but I can’t fathom one of them having someone worse than Suzyn Waldman.

            She brings absolutely nothing to the table from a baseball perspective, and the sound of fingernails on a chalkboard is preferable to her voice.

    • chriskeo says:

      I was watching the David Cone perfect game a couple weeks ago, him and sterling were so much worse, every other sentence was “David Cone is pitching a perfect game”

    • Tank the Frank says:

      The sun’s not yellow, it’s chicken!

    • The Artist says:

      I blame Michael Kay for Swine Flu.

  84. goon says:


  85. danny says:

    UGHH but it was suchh an easy play!!

  86. The Artist says:


    Bravo Andy, better luck next time.

  87. Bob Stone says:

    AP just brought his ERA down to an even 4.00. Another scoreless inning and he’ll be under 4 ERA for the year. That’s something to root for . . . along with cheering for the win.

  88. Wow, I thought that was twisting foul.

  89. Lanny says:

    And to think people here wanted them to not resign Andy. There is much to be said for being lefty at the Stadium and NY experienced.

  90. Tank the Frank says:

    Markakis has a rifle attached to his shoulder.

  91. Riddering says:

    Jeter has his juju back.


  93. pat says:

    Damn, can u make a better throw from right? That was a lazer.

  94. Bugsy says:

    why are we bunting? this is sadistic.

  95. BigBlueAL says:

    Bunt him over baby.

  96. danny says:

    not the bunt!!

  97. Brazilian Yankee says:

    As bad as that may sound, I’m glad it was Hairston in there to commit the error and lose the perfecto instead of A-Rod. If it were A-Rod he (and we) would never heard the end of it.

  98. BigBlueAL says:

    Damon should be fined for not bunting Jeter over.

  99. chriskeo says:


  100. Bugsy says:

    would that have happened had we bunted? now fucking stop bunting.

  101. Pasqua says:

    I judge every perfect game possibility against Mussina’s 8 2/3 against the Red Sox in ’01. Carl Everett’s hit was the most gut-wrenching moment of my baseball-watching life. This experience was definitely not even close. Lots of fun, actually. Good job, Andy.

  102. Johnny, ftw.

    Tack ‘em on, Tex!

  103. Lanny says:

    You can make a case that the best thing Girardi has done this season was switching Jeter-Damon at the top of the order.

  104. gio says:

    In high school, my perfect game was broken up on the last out of the game on a throwing error by the SS. We called him “E” for the rest of the season.

  105. Jose says:

    That was a stat padding single. He should of given up an out to move the runner over. That is how you play the game the right way.

  106. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    I love this offensive barrage right after the PG/NH broke.

  107. Nady Nation says:

    I inadvertently posted this as a reply above, but…

    I’ve got to ask – Andy for game 2 playoff starter over AJ?

  108. What are you thinking, Matt? You’re no Jose Molina.

  109. Bugsy says:

    cano has been almost perfect with RISP since that walkoff. maybe he has been perfect.

  110. Bob Stone says:

    Cano with RISP – ugh.

  111. Tank the Frank says:

    I feel bad for Andy. He really deserves it. He knows tonight’s probably the best chance he’ll have for the rest of his career. It wouldn’t have hurt his HOF argument either.

  112. Accent Shallow says:

    Sorry guys.

    I’ve been saying that Andy’s gonna do it before his career is done, but they got the first hit before I managed to get home.

  113. Salty Buggah says:

    CANO with the RISP correction!

  114. JSquared says:


  115. michael kay fan says:


  116. Jake H says:

    Wow Robbie has been better with RISP

  117. Little Bill says:

    Robbie is on fire with RISP!

  118. Chili Davis says:

    The New York Yankees are prettay, prettay, prettay good.

    /Larry David’d

  119. Riddering says:

    If Cano is righting himself with RISP…

    Confidence level = 11

  120. pat says:

    Oof, markakis in love with the cannon?

  121. The Artist says:

    TSJC, here was my Mattingly Retired Number reply, since the thread got closed soon after and we never git a chance to discuss it.

    “Mattingly had 5 outstanding seasons and 5 sub par seasons. Career OPS+ of 127 at 1B.

    I’d give it to

    -Red Ruffing
    -Bernie Williams
    -Jorge Posada
    -Joe Gordon
    -Earle Combs
    -Waite Hoyt

    Gordon, Bernie and Jorge’s OPS is MUCH more vauable at 2B/CF/C than Mattingly’s at 1B. Hoyt, Combs, Joe Gordon and Red Ruffing are HOF players with rings wheras Mattingly has neither.

    I know some fans loved him, but he’s just NOT that significant in Yankee history when compared to others.”

    • Bernie and Jorge should get their numbers retired. I think Pettitte is a candidate as well. However, I think it’ll be one of those Paul O’Neill/21 situations: they won’t officially retire it but they won’t give it out.

  122. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Canooooo loves hitting with RISP all of the sudden.

  123. pat says:

    Market Correction motherfuckers.

  124. Rockdog says:

    Anyone think the Yankees will pull off a trade for Thome, Dye or Linebrink. ESPN reporting all are available after the sweep this weekend.

  125. Drew says:

    Not that the game is over yet but, is it possible that two 1 hitters in a week is a bummer?

  126. MikeD says:

    I called all my friends and neighbors, and now they want to know why.

  127. Bob Stone says:

    Yankees are good at baseball.

  128. Tank the Frank says:

    Is the cycle “baseball immortality?” I don’t think so.

  129. danny says:

    lol swishy take it easy

  130. LivefromNewYork says:

    Now it’s let’s obsess over Nick Swisher time.

  131. Accent Shallow says:

    Is being a triple short of the cycle noteworthy? I’m saying no. Being a single or double short, sure. Maybe a jack short. But triples are essentially out of play for most baseball players.

  132. LivefromNewYork says:

    Mike Judge plus Jason Bateman has to be great.

  133. pat says:

    Anybody know of any good WR sleepers this year? I had a draft yesterday but I’m not too impressed with my WR corps.