Sep
23

2009 Draft: Lane Meyer’s Draft Grades

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Draft coverage all-star Lane Meyer of NoMaas posted his review of this year’s draft class, grading the thing out on a pick-by-pick basis. I think Lane might be a little too optimistic with some of the grades (Caleb Cotham screams generic college starter to me), but there’s nothing wrong with that, and overall he did a great job. He gives the entire class a B+, but I’m a tough grader so I consider it more of a C+/B- haul because of the lack of an obvious impact player. Don’t get me wrong, Slade Heathcott and JR Murphy are studs, but more like above average regulars than true impact talents.

Anyway, make sure you head on over and check it out.

Categories : Asides, Draft

48 Comments»

  1. Great work by Meyer. (He loves his Jersey boys, though, doesn’t he?)

    Oh, and:

    pat Says:

    PS- congrats on the baby
    PPS Show me your credentials.

    Remind me what this joke is in reference to again? I remember the fuzzy fringes of this story, but not all of it.

    • pat says:

      Wow a truly great and magnanimous poster must have made that joke. That’s what Interested Reader wrote on Lane’s blog last year. Something like “HAH schooled by Lohud” and “how can we take you seriously when you don’t have any credentials”. They crosschecked the IP’s and it matched up with comments abe had made in their message board. He claimed somebody else used his computer or something.

  2. Goldmember says:

    Decent draft. Not a crappy one, and not a top 5 draft either. I am very, very interested to see how the Yanks handle the next couple of drafts considering Bud Selig is pushing hard for hard slotting.

    My guess, if the Yanks make some good coin in the playoffs, we will see some serious money being spent in the next couple of years. What do you guys think?

    • AndrewYF says:

      The Yankees spend on the draft however much they see fit. It’s not affected by revenue.

      • Goldmember says:

        Ok, do they change what they see fit now that Selig is pushing hard slotting?

        • Zack says:

          Do you mean increasing the draft budget to get high talent before Porcello-like guys are locked into the top spots?

        • AndrewYF says:

          Of course not. Selig’s been pushing hard slotting for years. The only team that seems to care about slotting is the Mets, and look where that gets them.

        • There’s probably a bunch of factors involved. Consider:

          -If the hard-slotted draft (TWSS) is imminent, ALL TEAMS, not just the Yankees, could be more willing to go overslot, seeing it as their last chance to buy elite talent before the system changes.
          -You may see a flood of DES’s and highschoolers willing to take deals, thus driving down their relative bargaining power since there’s more signability guys falling than before
          -Teams could actually gain the upper hand immediately, as agents would be forced to take slightly-above-slot deals now rather than settle for firmly-at-slot deals once the system changes.

          I think you could see the Yanks take elite signability guys and actually sign them to lower bonuses going forward if the Selig threat becomes more tangible.

          i.e., maybe Heathcott takes only 1M instead of 2M, because 1M is still better than 200k that he’d get when he re-enters the draft three years later.

  3. Reggie C. says:

    Medchill, Gerritse, and Mack (and a slew of lower round signees) all land B+ (or better) grades, but Meyer then grades Stoneburner a B/B-. That seems alittle off considering the Stoneburner has been clocked at 96 post-draft according to Meyer.

    All in all … lots of optimism, especially in the lower portion of the signing class.

  4. Januz says:

    I think a grade of B-Plus is way too high. There were several guys who they did not sign (Alpin, McKenzie, Bruno & Lyons come to mind), that if signed, would have helped to warrent a B-Plus grade. That being said, the much lauded Kennedy/Joba Draft, has not exactly lived up to hype (David Robertson may be the best of the bunch), so a lot remains to be seen.
    I certainly do not think they deserve top grades like the Royals, Pirates, and especially the Rockies deserve. But they are not the Mets or Blue Jays either. I am going to be GENEROUS and give them a C-Plus (The Plus goes adding DeLuca at the last minute).

  5. Per Lane Meyer: “A young man without a postional home, Rabago’s one plus tool is his strong throwing arm. Baseball America even went so far as to speculate that he could have been drafted as a pitcher. However, after drafting him as a catcher the Yankees have already converted him to 2B.”

    Does that seem a little strange to anyone else? The kid doesn’t hit much and his only plus tool is his strong arm… So the Yanks convert him from catcher to second base? Come again?

  6. Januz says:

    It is very possible that Robertson may be the best of the bunch (Joba and Kennedy are in dire need of attitude adjustments), Melancon the jury is still out on, and highly regarded prospects like Brad Suttle and Dellin Betances have not exactly stayed healthy.

    • Use the reply button, please. We’ve been over this before.

    • Tom Zig says:

      There is a reply button in the corner, he is upset you didn’t click on him

    • pat says:

      As of now Robertson may be considered the most successful of the bunch. He’s certainly not the most talented.

      • As of now Robertson may be considered the most successful of the bunch.

        Can he?

        Joba the not-quite-good-yet, still work-in-progress, sometimes brilliant but often horrid starter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Robertson the solid reliever

        No, Joba is the most successful one of that draft class, hands down. I love DRob and think he’s a damn effective reliever, but what he’s done is still not as impressive or successful as what Joba’s done, even if Joba has totally shit the bed the past two months.

        • pat says:

          Ehhhh, yeah I guess you’re right. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it makes sense. Just off the top of my head I’d say D-Rob has been more valuable to the team as a late inning k machine (135 era+) than Joba has been while slogging through 4 and 5 inning starts (94 era+). Statistically speaking though, you’re correct. 146 approximately league average innings from a starter are are more valuable than 41 above average from a reliever.

          BTW, I hadn’t looked at the stats in a while but Joba’s year hasn’t been that terrible considering his age, first full season starting in the most difficult division eva. Sure his peripherals aren’t too pleasing to the eye but the results haven’t been as catastrophically as imagined.

          • pat says:

            *catastrophically bad

          • Exactly.

            At his best, DRob has been lights-out for an inning or two. At his best, Joba’s been lights-out for an entire game. Joba’s had more scuffles than DRob has, and they’re more recent in the memory, but those recent scuffles shouldn’t outweigh the fact that he’s still been better at his peak than DRob has.

            Oh, and there’s several perfectly valid reasons to explain Joba’s scuffles. It’s not like the guy was good and then just started inexplicably sucking on purpose.

            • Oh, and there’s several perfectly valid reasons to explain Joba’s scuffles. It’s not like the guy was good and then just started inexplicably sucking on purpose.

              Psh, yeah right. The only reason he’s sucking is because they keep babying him and keep guaranteeing him things.

              • WHY WON’T GIRARDI AND CASHMAN JUST PUNCH THAT UNGRATEFUL LITTLE BABY IN THE MOUTH TO MOTIVATE HIM LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO WITH MY BOILING RAGE OF SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!!!

                • YankeeGrunt says:

                  Joba’s had (brief) stretches of dominance this year and stretches of suckitude, and a whole lot of mediocre. He needs to work on economy of pitches, he needs to reach back and hurl at times, but so too does the team need to stop changing the “rules” on him. This constant adjustment of his boundaries, his innings, his rest, etc etc is a good way to mess with a young pitcher’s head. Next year, with a virtually unlimited innings cap, it should be almost completely on Joba’s shoulders. But New York fans need to stop being idiots about a young pitcher’s growing pains. If Cash had listened to the New York fans regarding Phil Hughes we would have given up on the kid long ago.

            • Bill says:

              Yes, that. However to say Robertson is more successful than Joba completely ignores Joba’s performance in 2007 and 2008 where he was much more dominant than Robertson out of the pen and was extremely effecitive in the rotation as well.

              Joba’s simply run into a rough spot in his career, but so far he has unquestionably had more success than Robertson who now is no more than the 4th best reliever in our bullpen. Joba has been our #3-4 starter pretty much all year.

              • Gurris says:

                I think you are all confused. You should judge Joba’s performance on what he has done over the past 5 minutes. In fact, he has not pitched at all in that time, which makes him utterly useless. Last year or even last week is soooo last year/last week.

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