Sep
04

Game 135: Will Joba find his rhythm?

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The Joba Rules. If I never hear that phrase again, it will be too soon. The rules are, of course, what would govern any young pitcher in Joba’s situation. But the media has taken the Yanks handling of Joba as a personal affront, and seemingly mock these “rules” at every turn (though there are obvious exceptions). The Yankees are in the precarious position of balancing short-term needs with long-term goals. Those are not easy waters to navigate. They’re doing their best, although mistakes have been made in the past.

The idea is that Joba will go three or four innings today, with an indeterminate cap on his pitches. This is in an effort to build him back to to the six, seven inning range by the time October rolls around. I hope this is the right move, though I’m not sure what, beyond completely shutting him down at around 150 to 160 innings, would be an optimal course of action.

Girardi won’t have the luxury of Al Aceves to back up Joba this time, nor will he have Chad Gaudin. If the game gets out of hand either way we could see the likes of Edwar Ramirez and Mike Dunn get in the game. Otherwise we’ll probably see Jon Albaladejo and Mark Melancon fill the middle innings, with Phil Coke taking the 8th inning slot. Presumably, Mariano Rivera is not available again tonight.

Toeing the rubber for the Jays is Roy Halladay, perpetual Yanks nemesis. Well, that is, until this year. The Yanks have tagged him for five runs in each of his last two starts. In fact, Halladay hasn’t been at all himself since the calendar flipped to August. He opened the second half strong, throwing back to back nine-inning appearances out of the gate, against the Sox and the Rays, and then had a rough but serviceable start in Seattle. He hasn’t been the same since.

In his last 42 innings, Halladay has allowed 27 runs, though only 22 earned. That’s good for a 4.71 ERA, certainly un-Halladay-ian. The big culprit: homers. He’s allowed eight in that span, a far, far cry from where he normally sits. That, and the .860 OPS against in August, doesn’t bode well for him as he faces the homer-happy Yankees.

Quite a strange lineup. Jeter has the night off, which is understandable, but Hinske batting second? Wouldn’t Cano be better in that spot? Anyway…

Lineup:

1. Johnny Damon, LF
2. Eric Hinske, RF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Hideki Matsui, DH
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Melky Cabrera, CF
9. Ramiro Pena, SS

And on the mound, number sixty-two, Joba Chamberlain.

Categories : Game Threads
  • alex gonzalez

    why isn’t jeter playing? Is he hurt?

    • Dela G

      probably giving him a chance to break the record at home?

      • pat

        Scoop says it’s a “regular” day off and the Jeter jammed his finger yesterday.

        • Salty Buggah

          Scoop? (PeteAbe?)

          • pat

            Yeah, there’s a word the prefaces it but I don’t feel like getting bitched at by his minions.

            • Jersey

              Is Pete Abe’s nickname really Scoop?

              • pat

                to some people.

  • pat

    Mall Cop threatened to make a citizens arrest if he didn’t bat in the 2 hole.

  • Drew

    Anyone else think Blount’s year long suspension is a bit excessive? It will probably cost him millions of dollars for a mistake that many people make.. He was provoked and responded in a horrible way, that said, a year is just too much imo.

    • Salty Buggah

      Meh, it was a cheap shot. It was a really idiotic decision to do what he did. I dont have a problem with it.

      • pat

        Boise State kid got what he deserved. Totally instigated, screw that nonsense.

      • Drew

        What about Hout? He ran up to Blount after a tough loss, gave him a smack on the shoulder pad, mouthed something that I’m sure was vulger, then turned around to celebrate with the dozen of his teammates that were around him. Is that not a cheap shot?

        • Jersey

          It is. Hout needs to get suspended too. But him not getting suspended doesn’t make a difference to me re: Blount.

          • cmart

            I think Hout learned his lesson when he was PUNCHED IN TEH FACE!

            • Drew

              YOU GOT KNOCKED THE **** OUT, MANNN!

              • Jersey

                IETC2

            • Jersey

              IETC

      • Jersey

        Likewise. I’m losing any sleep over it. I mean it’s really easy to not punch people, in fact I do it every day.

    • Little Bill

      NO! He sucker punched a guy who wasn’t looking at him. Then he pushed his own teammate who was trying to calm him down and finally, he went after a fan. Blount should have been suspended for the year.

      • Drew

        It’s not a sucker punch if someone curses you off, provokes you, then turns around to laugh with his teammates. That’s a dick move..

        • Zack

          Come on man, taunts and vulger language happens all the time in sports- how many guys throw a punch? Not to mention trying to attack fans

          • Drew

            I understand that. Where I’m from though, if you yell at me, laugh in my face then celebrate with your buddies about it, you’re asking for something.

            • pat

              Drew gives the meanest indian rubs EVER.

            • Zack

              “Where I’m from though”

              So sick of that excuse

              • Drew

                I don’t know how often you’ve been cursed off/antagonized and were able to remain calm, cool and collected(/Kabak’d). Especially after a hard fought game.. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be punished. Just that the provoker deserves some blame and I found the punishment a bit excessive.

                • Zack

                  Who’s been on a field and hasnt been cursed at? How many college games are there a week? How many words are exchanged per game? How many guys react by punching the other guy?

                  Provoker does deserve blame, but no words (unless its a direct threat to oneself or family) are even enough to defend a punch.

                  The punishment may be excessive in your eyes, but wasnt he suspended before for missing team meetings or whatever? So he doesnt have a clean record.

  • Salty Buggah

    Ugh, my summer is almost over. College starts on Monday. ;(

    • Jersey

      Grad school started this week for me. I just six hours at the library. Ready ta git ma drink awn

      • Salty Buggah

        Yea, now I gotta wait until June to relax again.

        • Jersey

          I have a rule: no thinking about school between the hours of 5pm Saturday and noon Sunday, and I slavishly follow it. Helps me keep my sanity.

          • Salty Buggah

            Hmm, good idea. I’ll try it.

            • Jersey

              Works best with Wild Turkey, heh.

    • JGS

      college is awesome though

      • Johan Iz My Brohan

        Salty Buggah is an ugly mofo, so I don’t see how he could be gettin’ some in college

        <3

  • mike jones

    Is Tim Kirkjian the only person on ESPN who likes the Yankees?

  • alex gonzalez

    is this the website that was on tv?

    • VO

      Yes

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      No…

      …YES!

      • Jersey

        That’s weird, usually it’s on the Internet.

        UCWIDT?

        • Johan Iz My Brohan

          yeah those RAB guys are sellouts fo sho.

          • Jersey

            They’ll do anything for a buck. No credibility.

  • Dela G

    LETS GO YANKEES!

    • Salty Buggah

      +27

  • Dela G

    even if halladay hasn’t been himself, i would give anything to have the luck the red sox have had this year and basically avoiding him almost every TOR series they have.

    • Chris

      This is his 4th start against the Yankees. He’s had 3 against the Red Sox this year.

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    I hope this isn’t the day that Roy breaks out of his post-trade deadline slump. He usually does very well against us, but this team is on fire, so I expect to take home the W.

  • Dela G

    damn damon just waved hello to that one..

  • Salty Buggah

    Fuckin Millar…go back to Bahston

  • cmart

    I feel like Hinske always hits the ball hard

  • cmart

    Ricciardi’s nose is serious

    • Dela G

      he looks like toucan sam!

  • Dela G

    jesus christ

    halladay is back apparently…

  • VO

    Next inning we score minimum 2 runs.

  • Brazilian Yankee

    That strike three to Tex didn’t look like a strike.

  • Salty Buggah

    That was outside on Gameday…

    Fuckin Halladay better not do well today after stinking it up against Bahston twice.

  • alex gonzalez

    Nice of Holiday to show up today. why couldn’t he against the red sux?

    • Johan Iz My Brohan

      Nice of Holiday Halladay to show up today. why couldn’t he against the red sux?

  • BigBlueAL

    If the Yankees somehow win tonight, they should just cancel the rest of the season and hand them the WS trophy.

    • Dela G

      lol i don’t think so

      i thought they would win the WS in 03 and 06, but eh, we saw what happened there

      • BigBlueAL

        Throw in 02 also.

        • Chris

          You can also add 01 and 04.

          Plus I had a lot of hope in 05 and 07.

          And at this point, they still had a shot in 08, so I hadn’t given up.

    • Salty Buggah

      Oddly, I was thinking the exact same thing and was going to post it.

    • VO

      They Selig better finish polishing that trophy. We play tonight we win tonight.

      • Johan Iz My Brohan

        but Selig is saving it for the Sox!

  • Salty Buggah

    Holy shit, Rogers Centre is packed!…NOT!

  • Dela G

    that was a WICKED curveball by joba

  • Drew

    Um, sick curve, good velocity. I wish he could go more than 3 or 4 tonight!

  • alex gonzalez

    Why can’t Joba throw 99 anymore. did some injury in his change to a starter hurt him?

    • Jersey

      Maybe a change in mechanics. Maybe dialing down from his max effort. Maybe still getting strength back. Nobody outside the organization is really sure.

  • Riddering

    That second strike to Scutaro was pretty nasty.

  • Salty Buggah

    Cmon Hinske…you had that

  • Dela G

    fuckin A, i thought hinske caught that

  • alex gonzalez

    is johnny damon is right field tonight? haha

  • JGS

    if you can get that close to it, you can catch it

  • Johan Iz My Brohan

    I like the velocity Joba, keep it up!

  • Dela G

    cmon joba, lets get a strike here

  • Salty Buggah

    Kay is not that smart. Cone is right.

  • Dela G

    my goodness hinske is terrible at RF

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Joba crappy as usual.

    • Salty Buggah

  • Riddering

    Whoever is scoring the game is daft, crediting that run to Joba rather than an error.

    • Dela G

      agreed

  • JGS

    not that he had any chance of catching that one, but Hinske looks pretty bad out there

  • Accent Shallow

    Oy vey.

  • BigBlueAL

    The thing is, Im not even surprised anymore when Joba gets ripped or pitches poorly.

    • alex gonzalez

      he seems like he is all messed up pitching now. unlike last year and the year before that.

  • cmart

    one of those nights huh

  • Dela G

    excellent strikeout there joba

  • Henry

    You know, David is saying exactly what my concern was, and that’s PITCHES THROWN, NOT INNINGS PITCHED. Before the game even started, Joba is already at 600 more pitches thrown than last year, which if you avg. it out to about 15 pitches per inning, for arguements’ sake, he’s already at 40 more IP than last year, which is how IMHO they should monitor Joba, not IP, as that can be deceiving because it doesn’t tell you how many pitches are thrown per inning, which is what hurts pitchers more so than IP, and how many stressful innings he has gone through.

    • Henry

      correction, David Cone

    • Accent Shallow

      And how do you know the Yankees aren’t monitoring that? They’re not gonna make everything public.

      • Henry

        I understand, but according to the “rule” we should only increase the IP limit by 30/40IP, and as I said, with those extra 600 pitches, that’s averaged out to 40 innings increase already, and mind you, that number is not getting smaller, it’s only getting bigger.

        • Henry

          so now add in however many more pitches he’s going to throw for the rest of the season, and in the postseason, which is when they will have him stretched out and hopefully be throwing 6+ innings and/or 100+pitches

        • Chris

          The increase is based off a career high, not last year specifically.

          • Henry

            last year WAS his career high…

  • Jersey

    Susyn just pointed out that Lind leads the league in XBHs. Didn’t know that.

  • Dela G

    oh my god

    the defense

    is teh sux

  • Salty Buggah

    Pena is not that good defensively in Toronto, huh?

  • Drew

    This defense is great for getting two innings out of Jober… Come the fuck on.

  • Accent Shallow

    Joba hasn’t been exactly sharp, but the defense isn’t doing him any favors.

  • Bob Stone

    WTF – Where’s the defense – Hinske and Pena?? Terrible. Bring back the regulars.

  • VO

    Pena’s role model is Hairston.

  • Dela G

    man joba deserves much much much better than this

    you have any other competent fielders and he is out of this inning

  • BigBlueAL

    No big deal, Im sure Joba will say after the game he threw the ball great and if he had Roberto Clemente in RF he wouldnt have given up any runs.

    • Drew

      In .2 innings he has pitched well. He’s gotten 4 outs so far.

    • Riddering

      That misplay of Hinske’s was on a routine line-drive catch. Not requiring a Clemente at all.

  • Henry

    dear Mo, granted there have been errors this inning, but nonetheless they are ripping Joba right now…

    • VO

      Are they really ripping him?

  • Bob Stone

    Yankees would be out of this inning with no runs with their regular players.

    • Dela G

      agreed

      its not entirely joba’s fault

  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    Great D

  • VO

    This guy looks like he belongs in high school.

  • Dela G

    thanks pena and eric hinske

    you guys f’ing cost joba a boat load of pitches

    • VO

      Eh, he was only going to go 3, or 4 so it’s not THAT big of a deal.

    • Drew

      That one off Hitske almost bounced off his glove and over the wall.. That would’ve been something else.

      • Salty Buggah

        Well, he starter slowing down and turning around way early, forcing him to jump for the ball. Otherwise, he gets it easily.

  • Riddering

    Johnny’s gotta show Hinske how it’s done. :p

  • Salty Buggah

    Well, if Pena and Hinske make the play, Joba probably has 0 runs that inning.

    • Omar

      He allowed two doubles and wasn’t dropping any jaws with his stuff.

      • Drew

        The Hinske play was not a double unless you’re a homer scorer, it was a 2 base error. His curve was mean and his fastball is there.

      • Salty Buggah

        true but sometimes when one is struggling, you need some luck and good defense.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        He allowed two doubles that a competent right fielder would have caught.

        • Ace

          Ah, what did I tell you! One of the Cashman puppets has spoken and is overlooking Joba’s terrible command and pitch selection on Hinske’s misplays in RF. It was only a matter of time…

      • Chris

        Millar appeared to have his jaw dropped.

  • yanke1313

    Joba needs to learn the Greg Maddux 2-seamer.

  • Accent Shallow

    Not a fan of Halladay’s delivery.

  • Ace

    I swear to god I hope this guy isn’t able to pitch in the playoffs. I would take any starter on short rest over this bastard. Its turning into a freaking joke. 28 pitches in the first inning when he’s only expected to go four.

    If his name wasn’t Joba, he’d be a nobody and would be correcting this shit he calls pitching in the minors.

    • Drew

      Are you even watching the game? He got 5 outs in 28 pitches. That’s not so bad.

  • BigBlueAL

    Joba’s ERA is now 4.41 and his WHIP is 1.52.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      Not really ace material as some of the guys here would like us to believe.

      • Accent Shallow

        Yup. A season like this means he’ll never amount to anything.

      • Riddering

        No one on RAB is trying to convince people that Joba is an ace in 2009.

      • Ace

        Don’t worry. The three Cashman puppets of RAB will spin the story in a way that convinces you it wasn’t Joba’s fault and that all he needs is more time to figure everything out. We’re only 135 games into the season so far.

        • Salty Buggah

          Lombardi, is that you? go back to waswatching

          • bobtaco

            +1

        • Drew

          Let’s DFA Joba and bring up Towers!!

        • Jersey

          This comment is awesome.

        • VO

          If they are Cashman pupets why do you keep coming?

          • Ace

            Because its fun reading contrived game recaps and biased comments. Very entertaining while the game is going on. There’s nothing wrong with it. If that’s what they choose to be, it is what it is.

            Last I checked this was a forum where opinions could be shared. Just because someone doesn’t like the way RAB guys portray things doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to read what everyone else is writing.

      • BigBlueAL

        Well I dont think this season has anything to do with how good he can and I think will be in the next few seasons. BUT my point is for all the people trying to make excuses for him right now the proof is Joba pretty much is an average pitcher at best. No excuses for his defense and the “Joba Rules”. If Joba was pitching for the Red Sox right now he would be made fun of at every possible moment on this blog for being overrated (case in point Buchholz).

        Again I still think Joba will be a #1 or 2 starter in the futre, if not the near future, but right now he basically sucks.

        • Chris

          Joba doesn’t suck right now. He’s struggling. There’s a difference. He’s 23 and basically a league average pitcher. That’s a pretty big accomplishment.

          • BigBlueAL

            Well yeah I did say he is basically a league average pitcher. Your right he doesnt suck right now. Just is tough to watch though at times to say the least.

            • Chris

              I agree it’s frustrating to watch right now.

              The problem is there are almost no pitchers that come up and dominate right away (and those that do generally get injured – maybe a coincidence and maybe not). These struggles are the price you have to pay to avoid the problems the Yankees had from 2003-2008 where you’re hoping highly paid FA pitchers perform. I personally prefer the young pitcher approach – especially since he really only needs to be a #4 starter.

      • Chris

        Tim Lincecum had a 4.00 ERA and a 1.278 WHIP as a 23 year old in the NL west (just consider what Smoltz and Penny have done in the NL this year). The next year he won the Cy Young.

        I feel pretty confident that Joba will straighten things out in the next 2-3 year and be a certifiable ace (assuming he stays healthy).

  • Dela G

    dont swing at the crazy curve he throws… he’ll get you every time

  • yanke1313

    Bleich 2 IP 4 ER.

  • Dela G

    excellent strike zone for halladay….

    ugh

  • Brazilian Yankee

    That’s bullshit. If the ump is going to give calls like that to Halladay we might as well forfeit.

  • Jersey

    Eesh. Maybe Halladay really is back. This could be a long night.

  • dkidd

    who would you rather have pitching a make or break game in the alds? joba or pettitte?

    • Jersey

      Is that a serious question?

    • Little Bill

      Neither will be. CC Sabathia would pitch game 4 if the Yankees were behind or game 5 if it was tied 2-2.

      • dkidd

        let’s say we’re down 0-2. who starts game 3? i’d rather see joba, just wondering if people are losing faith

    • Drew

      Why don’t you ask in a month… One month changes a lot, ask AJ and AP.

    • Ace

      Even Pettitte on three days rest.

  • Riddering

    Of course, Bad Halladay disappears as soon as he faces the Yanks again.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    A-Rod shows the D how it’s done. What an arm. John McDonald is not slow.

    • Salty Buggah

      Yea, rocket is an understatement

    • Dela G

      amen to that

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Man, Tex should have let that shit drop. Hill didn’t run and Scutaro was standing there on first.

    • VO

      No infield fly rule?

      • Accent Shallow

        Only applies with men on first and second.

        • VO

          Alright my bad, I was away from the tv.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Ah maybe, I didn’t see.

    • Accent Shallow

      On grass, I agree with you. I wouldn’t take chances on turf.

  • Salty Buggah

    Man, the negative people are back today.

    • VO

      7.5 isn’t enough for them.

      • LivefromNewYork

        Don’t remind them we have the best record in baseball.

        • Drew

          Who cares about Joba? The real problem is Girardi. How can we trust him to win in October if he calls for a bunt in late August!! AHHH

    • Little Bill

      Joba’s pitching. I think people are under the false impression that he’s supposed to be CC Sabathia. He’s the 4th starter and an infinitely better option in a playoff start than Mitre or Gaudin.

      • Salty Buggah

        It’s Lombardi’s Army

    • BigBlueAL

      Sorry. Joba just frustrates me at times. No bearing at all though on my opinion of this team. They could lose the next 3 games in Toronto and I could care less it still wont change the fact the Yankees are the best team in baseball.

      • Salty Buggah

        Well, you cant really complain about it as much as you do. He’s a young starter in the AL East and right now I expect him to be tired a bit too after blowing by his career high in innings. You gotta accept it.

        • BigBlueAL

          You can shoot me again if you want….

          • Salty Buggah

            nah, as long you aren’t panicking Im OK. Im just pissed at people like Ace

    • Riddering

      Amazing, considering this is a team that wins even when their sixth starter gets roughed up and forced out of the game early.

  • Drew

    Kay, your radar gun is wrong. The second fastball was 93. If he worked more often maybe he’d be aware of the gun situation..

  • Salty Buggah

    I say the perfecto gets broken this inning.

    • VO

      HES PITCHING A PERFECT GAME EVERYBODY!

      /Jinxed

      • Drew

        +1

        Halladay is perfect through three!!

    • Bob Stone

      Or maybe not.

    • VO

      Just hypothetically say he takes it into the 9th and the game is out of reach would you want him to do it?

      • Drew

        Not me.

      • Stadium Garlic Fries

        No. Just so that we don’t have to hear M.Kay repeat it gazillion times for the rest of his career.

      • Bob Stone

        Definitely not!! I’m routing for the Yanks to score some runs in that situation.

      • Chris

        Against the Red Sox? YES!

        Against the Yankees? NO WAY!

  • Salty Buggah

    Roy Halladay is the one pissing me off, not Joba. He suddenly gets going against us.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      We got to face bad Doc twice, I think.

      • Salty Buggah

        Yea, but still. ;)

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Maybe the Yankees should employ the Beckett Game Plan and swing early in the count. This approach of taking strike 1 and 2 before swinging the bat is clearly not working.

    • Salty Buggah

      Umm, no because they have a lot of movement and you will probably end up grounding out or popping out like Pena did (he swung at the 1st pitch). Besides, they are missing it like A-rod did.

    • Stadium Garlic Fries

      It works reverse in Doc’s case. That cutter is Mo like, keeps producing ground balls/broken bats. It will actually 90 pitch complete game shutout.

  • Dela G

    wait i thought the ball actually had to hit the body, not the shirt?

    • Drew

      nope

    • Riddering

      I remember Swisher not getting that call on his sleeve.

  • BigBlueAL

    If Im a MLB plate umpire I would be scared to be doing plate with Posada catching just like I am with some of the shitty catchers I deal with who are 13 and 14 yo. Plate umpires get a beating and have to constantly dodge bullets when Posada is catching.

  • Accent Shallow

    I can live with Joba getting hit. What kills me is the lack of command or an apparent plan.

  • Dela G

    damn, throw some strikes man

    pretty please?

  • Dela G

    halladay gets that call on ball 3

  • Salty Buggah

    Well, thats twice he hasnt gotten that low call. It was in the zone. As long as Halladay doesnt get it either.

  • dkidd

    that would’ve been awesome

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Holy crap, David Cone actually made a great point there.

    • Chris

      What was it? (I’m listening to the lovely tandem of John and Suzyn)

    • Accent Shallow

      The changeup bit, or the “Joba as starter” bit?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        The starter bit. That if he had just come up this year, everyone would be saying he’s had a nice year for a rook in the AL East, but after seeing him in the pen, everyone expects that.

        • Riddering

          Coney is on fire tonight with his reasonable points on Joba’s year and the way the Yanks are handling him.

          On the starter point: Not to mention, if the Yanks had waited to bring Joba up his innings limit wouldn’t be as much of a concern.

          • Zack

            And if the Yankees sucked they could shut him down and not hear a word about it.
            ie. What Tampa did with Shields a few years ago, and what O’s will be doing with Tillman and Matusz in about a week

        • Accent Shallow

          I agree with you there, but one of the reasons my expectations were so high was his 2008 as a starter. I don’t think any sane person expected him to maintain a 1192 ERA+ over a full season.

          • Zack

            Too bad not all Yankee ‘fans’ are sane

    • Bob Stone

      He makes his share of good points. He’s a very good color analyst IMO.

      • dkidd

        cone >>>>>> o’neill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flaherty

    • Drew

      If you’re talking about “if you didn’t see him in the pen…” I agree. The sad thing is next year will probably be a carbon copy with Hughesy. People are going to expect that shiny 1.4 ERA he has as a reliever, but in the starting role.

      • Riddering

        That’ll do, Joba. That’ll do.

        • Riddering

          …the Curse of the Replino!

      • Drew

        heh, 1.14 ERA.

    • Little Bill

      Cone makes a lot of good points. You can tell he’s more knowledgeable than the average color analyst. He’s the best YES has.

      • Drew

        Gotta love Singy too.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      His point about the strike zone changing with the elimination of chest protectors was a good one as well.

      I remember those things as a kid, and the high strike being called, but never put those two together.

  • dkidd

    more fastballs please

  • Dela G

    yucky

  • Riddering

    Damn, that seemed to be a DP ball. Bloody astroturf.

  • Brazilian Yankee

    If Joba wasn’t on an innings limit, this would be another one of those mediocre 5IP 4ER starts. That day in Texas really robbed us of a great starter.

    • Drew

      Yepp, he’s gone forever. He’s 23 and shows no signs of potential. We’re screwed.

  • Riddering

    Joba can’t get a strike here.

    • Riddering

      Meant to imply: the umpire is not inclined to call any.

  • Salty Buggah

    I am SUPER stoked to see Dunn tonight. Hope he has a successful debut.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Where the hell was that pitch?

    • Chris

      I assume Toronto.

  • Accent Shallow

    I was really hoping that the semi-regular schedule would help Joba regain his command. So far, that doesn’t appear to be the case. Luckily, he’s got a month to get his shit together.

  • Salty Buggah

    Whoa, holy shit ball 11 to Scutaro was literally right down the middle on Gameday.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    I’m almost scared to calculate Joba’s ERA over his last 4 starts.

    It must be Beckett-esque.

  • Salty Buggah

    Doesn’t anyone find it annoying that Kay doesnt bring it up the perfecto?

    Never mind, he just did but after 3

  • Drew

    “I thought it was 3 all the way (except for when I speculated that he may go four).”

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    That was some beautiful pitching to Tex right there.

  • Dela G

    good god

    perfect through 4

  • Karl W

    The Toronto announcers have mentioned the perfecto several times.

  • BigBlueAL

    Just read, which I had forgotten, that assuming the Yankees finish with the best record in the AL they can choose which series format they would want in the ALDS.

    I assume they will choose the format where CC can go in Games 1 and 4 on regular rest and whoever starts Game 2 can go on regular rest in Game 5 as well, meaning they will only need 3 starters. Of course that would also mean facing Verlander and Edwin Jackson 4 out of 5 times too.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    He’s only 15 outs away!

  • Drew

    Oh shit, Mel is in.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    MM!!!!

  • Zack

    why couldnt JP just trade halladay to the NL?

    • Drew

      In all honesty we may be better off with him in Toronto.. Yeah, we’ll get a few losses during the Regs, but not in late October.

      • Zack

        True. Having to face him 5x over a 162 game season is better than twice in a 7 game series.

  • Salty Buggah

    MELANCON TIME!

  • VO

    Are they seriously booing? Do they know who’s pitching?

    • LivefromNewYork

      people are idiots

  • Drew

    95 mph with some movement. Nice…

  • Dela G

    damn, a-rod looked like a shortstop there

    • VO

      First baseman*

    • Riddering

      A first baseman converted to short.

      Don’t forget that.

  • Salty Buggah

    Arm strength

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Cone-”Mark Melancon is a young pitcher, who’s trying to establish himself. It’s his way of saying YOU’RE IN MY WORLD, BITCHES!!!!”

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      BTW-I get the impression Coney LIKES Melancon’s moxie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

    He’s with leather.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

    54 mph fastball!

    Melancon: bringing back the Eephus pitch

  • Accent Shallow

    I still hate Melancon’s delivery, but three groundball outs definitely works.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Some scouts say it makes his ball easier to pick up, other say it gives him more downward movement. If it works, it works.

      • Accent Shallow

        Good points. I was just talking about it from a “watching” stand point — I don’t like watching him work because the delivery isn’t smooth.

        Give me Mo or Mike Mussina any day.

  • Salty Buggah

    Melancon to the rotation!

  • Karl W

    let’s blow this perfecto

  • alex gonzalez

    how are we going to do well if the playoffs if we are facing better teams. we cant even beat the blue jays. holiday has been terrible lately and now he is going to pitch a perfect game.

    • Drew

      memory FAIL
      spelling FAIL
      Grammar FAIL

      • Drew

        prediction FAIL

        • alex gonzalez

          how? he is still pitching a no hitter.

          • Drew

            “now he is going to pitch a perfect game.”

    • Dela G

      i think you are nuts

      did you miss the recent spankings we’ve given the jays this year?

    • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

      The operative word for Halladay is terrible “lately” — he’s not going to fall off a cliff for the rest of the season.

      • Chris

        Unless he takes an unfortunate trip to Niagra Falls….

    • A.D.

      So Pettitte pitched a perfect game the other day?

    • Chris

      It’s one game.

      We’re 10-3 against Toronto this year. We’re 2-1 against Toronto when Halladay starts.

      Oh yeah, and it’s the 5th inning! When games are 4 innings long, let me know.

    • Bob Stone

      Jeez – He’s one of the best pitchers in both leagues and you can’t spell his name? Harry Leroy Halladay!

    • Zack

      OMGZ we suckss!!

  • Drew

    Fuck me I thought that was gone.

  • Dela G

    DANG IT!!

    I totally thought matsui got all of that

  • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

    Halladay is getting all of our guys in 0-2 holes so fast.

  • VO

    Alright now ruin the no hitter.

  • Karl W

    There goes the perfecto hahahahaha

  • Accent Shallow

    Perfecto shmerfecto.

  • Dela G

    YAY!!! JORGE!!

    No more perfecto!

  • Tim

    This game is a PUNT

  • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

    No perfecto for you! Come back – one year!

  • alex gonzalez

    really lucky call, hope it helps the yanks.

  • Karl W

    Idiot Toronto announcer says “Halliday is a master against New York.” Please.

    • Randy A.

      What a joke.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      I don’t have the numbers, but he might really be a “master” against New York. Very rarely he blows against the Yanks.

      • Zack

        35 G, 33 GS, 16-7, 6 CG, 232.1 IP, 175 K, 2.94 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, .241 BAA

    • Zack

      i would complain, but he owns the Yankees

    • alex gonzalez

      this is true. how is he an idiot?

  • Dela G

    damn, he is really locked in tonight

  • Brazilian Yankee

    Well, at least the perfecto is gone. Going in, this was a very hard game to win with Joba going against Doc. Let’s just please avoid further embarrassment and break up the no-hitter.

  • Dela G

    damn, you take out jeter and all hell breaks loose on defense i guess

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Cano lazily dives too far on that one.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

      Pedroia gets to that ball 60% of the time, every time!!

  • http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif OmgZombies!

    Now whos idea was it for Joba to alter his picturing motion and rush his delivery? He has been doing that since the first few months of the season. Did I miss something or has it already been discussed. He is clearly no as effective pitching like that.

    • Drew

      A camera man in the left field camera basin.

      • Bob Stone

        ietcvm

      • http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/e6omir.gif OmgZombies!

        No really I wanna know.

  • Dela G

    toronto Le Jays!

    • http://www.facebook.com/dougchu Doug

      Le sigh.

  • ShuutoHeat

    I hate Roger’s Center and it’s artificial turf…

  • Dela G

    great job stopping barajas there

  • Riddering

    Past a diving Teixeira?

    I blame Jeter!

    • ShuutoHeat

      you don’t hear “pastadivingteixeira” much, damn the artificial turf..

  • Dela G

    anyone else think melancon sorta kinda looks like babe ruth?

  • alex gonzalez

    who is this guy pitching? why cant we bring out hughes for a long outing?

    • Bob Stone

      Why would you do that when he’s closing while Mariano is out?

      • alex gonzalez

        Anyone but some guy to walk in a run. I though this team is supposed to be good enough for the playoffs?

  • Dela G

    percent chance we see the bullpen tonight for the jays?

    2

    • Bob Stone

      1.5

    • Drew

      I’d go higher than two. He’s got 60 pitches, I think we’ll get to him for a couple runs and he’ll throw at least 25 pitches in that inning. I’d go with 20% chance.

  • BigBlueAL

    A 3-2 breaking pitch?? WTF??

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    He broke out the breaking ball with the count full and the bases juiced. Ballsy.

    • BigBlueAL

      More like stupid.

      • Dela G

        what he said

    • Brazilian Yankee

      One might argue that was pretty stupid.

  • Dela G

    fucking A melancon

  • Tim

    Melancon sucks

  • Dela G

    THANK GOD!!!

    on to the 6th!

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