Nov
24

Open Thread: You say tomato, I say Tabata

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Prospect season is in full swing these days, and Baseball America is in the middle of posting their top ten prospects for each team. The Yankees list won’t be released until December 18th, but the Pirates’ list came out today, and old pal Jose Tabata checked in at number two behind Washington Heights’ own Pedro Alvarez.

You probably all remember Tabata as the talented, yet troubled outfielder that would tantalize you with his natural ability but frustrate you with his childishness. The Yanks shipped him to Pittsburgh in the Xavier Nady-Damaso Marte trade after having to suspend him twice for insubordination, and the now 21-year-old has enjoyed a bit of prospect rebirth with the Pirates. He hit .293-.357-406 between Double- and Triple-A in 2009, easily his best season since playing with Low-A Charleston back in 2006.

It’s all too easy to look back and judge trades in hindsight. Heck, the evaluation of Tabata trade has been a roller coaster since it was made. When it was made, everyone love it and called it a steal. When Tabata and Ross Ohlendorf were doing well for the Pirates while Nady and Marte went down with injuries, it was an awful move. When Marte turned Chase Utley and Ryan Howard into Corey Patterson and Yuniesky Betancourt en route to the World Series, it was pure genius. It doesn’t require any brainpower to judge a move in hindsight, nor is it an accurate way to do things.

The reality is that it was a move the team had to make and a move Tabata needed. The Yanks were just two games out of a playoff spot at the time of the trade, and adding an everyday outfielder enjoying a career year plus an accomplished lefty reliever made all the sense in the world. Meanwhile, it’s clear that Tabata was frustrated by the season he was having in 2008 (.248-.320-.310 before the trade), pulling himself from a game and leaving the park (suspension #1), then slamming his bat at the plate and showing up an umpire after looking at strike three (suspension #2). I can’t see Tabata making that kind of turnaround with the Yanks. He needed a change of scenery, and in the end it worked out for both parties.

Anyway, that’s my evening rant. Use this as your open thread for the night. The Knicks are in LA taking on the Lakers, while the Nets’ drive for 0-82 will continue out in Denver. Anything goes, just don’t be a jerk.

Categories : Open Thread
  • Esteban

    I’m still basking in 27.

    • JM
      • Salty Buggah

        I’ve seen that so many times. In fact, I’ve gone back and watched some of the archives from the year. Yesterday, I watched the Cervelli HR game. Day before, I watched the last regular season game in which A-Rod killed. I miss baseball

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Everytime I see your name, I think of Esteban Colberto, Steven Colbert’s Mexican doppelganger.

      http://theguiridispatches.file.....igante.png

      • Esteban

        You’ve figured me out!

  • JM

    This trade makes even more sense now after seeing that Tabata had a slugging percentage WORSE than his OBP.I feel like that is something that’s really hard to do.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Here’s my two cents as to why trading Tabata for Nady and Marte* was a good move:

    Nady and Marte played well, when healthy. The primary thing driving down their value was not poor play, it was injury. Had they stunk, that would be one thing; but they both played above average with stretches of excellence. We got good play at both RF/LF and at RP from the two of them. Good enough to be more worthwhile than what Tabata would probably be able to give us by 2011 (when he’s finally MLB-ready.)

    Had they failed, the trade could be judged in hindsight as a loss for us, because we traded a good young prospect for two subpar players. But we didn’t; we traded a good prospect for two GOOD players who just got unfortunately injured. And those injuries were unpredictable; neither of them had injury red flags pre-trade.

    Hard to knock the trade for Nady blowing his arm out on a freak throw and Marte being nicked up by the WBC.

    JMHO.

    —————

    * Yes, I left out Ohlendorf, Karstens, and McCutchen. They’re irrelevant. They were fringy, surplus arms that we probably would have non-tendered or DFA’d at some point by now due to our numbers crunch and their lower ceilings as prospects. The trade is, for all intents and purposes, a 2 for 1. Tabata is the only guy we truly valued; the rest are flotsam and jetsam.

    • Salty Buggah

      Karstens already got DFA’d by the Pirates so he sucks badly

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      But Ohlendorf is like a GM on the field!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        (thinks)

        You know, that’s probably a bad thing.

    • steve (different one)

      Ohlendorf is cool, and i am happy he is having success at the back of the Pirates rotation, but he’d be cannon fodder in the AL East.

  • JM

    Does this make any sense? In MLB 09: The Show, I made a Road To The Show player and he is in AA. It’s June now and his stats are like this:
    about 210 ABs
    .450 AVG
    .467 OBP (I am too impatient to take so many pitches)
    .673 SLG
    1 HR (Inside-the-park, too. His Power rating is 23)
    25 Doubles
    10 Triples

    WHY WON’T THE WHITE SOX CALL HIM UP? All I get are these messages like “You are good enough, just wait and your time will come” and other stuff like that. AA is getting really, really, really boring. By the way, I know you all care about a fictional baseball player in AA. They made it real hard to get to the Major in this game.

    • JM

      Oh yeah, only K’d 4 times.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Answer:

      Your team is run by Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen.

      • whozat

        THat is an incredible measure of realism.

        What if you made the guy suck more at getting on base, play 1B juuuuust well enough that if you squint he looks like a tolerable defender, and be about 30? Then could you trick Dayton Moore into giving up Soria to get him?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          That is an incredible measure of realism.

          Indeed.

          My advice to you, JM: Start swinging for the fences. If you want to get called up to the show for Kenny and Ozzie, having a .250/.250/.500 with no walks, lots of K’s, and like 25 homers is way better than your pussy-ass .467 OBP. OBP is a made up stat anyway. Homers are where it’s at, baby, not triples.

          If you could manage to get your uniform dirtier as well, that will help.

    • Nigel Bangs

      the parlor mob is on that soundtrack. one helluva band.

    • Kilgore Trout

      In the game, I spent a year at AA. Began the next year in AA and after two starts was moved up to AAA, pitched well with a few complete game shutouts and didn’t even get called up. Started the 3rd season w/ the A’s in the bullpen, dominated, but didn’t crack the rotation until I bitched about it. Great game though.

      • rbizzler

        Pardon my sophomoric question, but what system is this game for?

        I have a couple of hand-me-down consoles (PS2 and original X-Box) so I am assuming that these (relative) antiques won’t cut it for the Show.

        • http://sports-odds.com/images/stories/yankees-arod-teixeira.jpg JobaWockeeZ

          PS3 only.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I’m the MAN at Bases Loaded on my NES.

          • rbizzler

            Classic.

            I wish I had a NES. All of there newfangled contraptions just don’t do it for me. I love me some EA Sports games for Sega Genesis.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              I will also whip your ass at Pitfall on the Atari II.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      You have to do a season at AA and AAA before going to the Majors. It’s the same whilst pitching. It’s frustrating.

  • Salty Buggah

    Is Eladio Moronta any good?

    • Mike Z

      Some scouts compare him to Raul Mondesi. Above average speed, plus arm and projectable power.

      • steve (different one)

        does any other team have a player scouts compare to Sean Green? i’m smelling challenge trade!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          does any other team have a player scouts compare to Sean Green?

          Hold on, lemme get my “Jewish Sports Stars” leaflet and check.

          /AirplaneJoke’d

  • http://fmylife.com JobaJr

    OK. Since this was deleted in the other thread…

    Is it out of the question to make a trade for Miguel Cabrera as the Tigers have put him on the market, and plug him in Left? He played LF for a few years back in his Marlins days.

    • whozat

      if you want an egregious fielder in LF, just trade for Adam Dunn.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        We could also bring Feared Williams out of retirement…

        • Esteban

          the pitchers will cower!

    • Evil Empire

      Yes, it is out of the question.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      If he can be had for one single decent but flawed, straight up, Soriano-for-ARod style, where the Tigers kick in some money to make it more palatable, I’m interested.

      If not, pass. Miggy’s price tag will likely be way too high. The 1B/LF/DH question is moot, IMO. Before we worry about where we’d play him, we need to be offered a sweetheart of a deal or it’s a non-starter.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’m pretty sure he’s eaten his way out of the outfield already.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        He might have drunken his way out of his marriage as well. We’ll see.

    • nolan

      He is pretty fat. Maybe rightfield? Move Swish to LF. Wouldn’t be horrible and Miggy’s (rhymes with piggy) bat would more than make up for his below average defense. The problem is he costs 22 million a year. Why not just get Holliday for 17 (who you dont have to give up any prospects for) who will be good offensively AND defensively. Holliday also had a higher WAR than Cabrera did last year (5.7 vs 5.4)

      • steve (different one)

        AL WAR > NL WAR

      • rbizzler

        I just can’t see him in RF for a full season. I think that it would get ugly real quick with the potential for disaster as Miggy is built for 1b or DH.

        Plus the salary obligations would be prohibitive. I am not sure that the Alex comps are valid as when he was acquired he was thought to be a plus defender with excellent baserunning abilities. Obviously, the hit tool was epic, but my point is that, unlike Miggy, Alex wasn’t thought of as a one-dimensional player.

  • Salty Buggah

    According to Damon’s wife, 3 interested teams have called for him.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      In a related story, I may or may not have called Damon’s wife three times, letting her know I’m interested in her. She may be misinterpreting the message.

      • ColoYank

        TSJC, we can always depend on you to speak for the male perspective on this forum.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          You’re welcome.

          In a story related to that related story, Michelle Damon has a major league pair of yabbos.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          Here’s to the heroes who ensure the male voice will never drowned out in our modern world, something I often have nightmares about.

          • Jack

            My nightmares are about bears.

            • rbizzler

              Jay Cutler?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            The problem with the modern world is that nobody looks out for the best interests of well-to-do white Christian males. THEY’re the new downtrodden minority.

            Sincerely,
            Glenn Beck

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              Maobama is also adding a VAT tax to the dowry of all wives for well-to-do white Christian males.

              Sincerely,

              Glenn Beck

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Heh.

                Does Beck actually know what a VAT tax is? I think if you tried to explain it to him, his brain might melt.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  My parents, despite being highly educated, affluent people, LOVE Beck and Bill O’Reilly.

                  I just don’t get it.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Come for the racism, stay for the sexism.

                • Rockdog

                  IETC

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              I was driving up the NJ TPK the other night and my iPod ran out of battery so I was forced to play the scanning game on FM radio. I came across a church service broadcast and the pastor had the balls to say that most of the media portrayals of Christians and Christianity are negative.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      They called for him, then worked the conversation around to her Playboy spread and asked how the marriage was working out for her.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Mike, any info on that DR kid we just signed?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’ll have something later.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        SPOILER ALERT: He’s Dominican.

        • Steve H

          So what you’re getting at is he’s lazy?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Stands to reason.

          • X

            and has receieved boli from “arods cousin”

            • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

              But Ortiz didn’t take steroids.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                And as soon as he finds the real killers, he’ll tell us all about how he didn’t take steroids.

                • X

                  and he wrote a 92 in stead of 89 on his elibility papers

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      http://tinyurl.com/ycoshax

      He beat me to everything I have.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        He beat me to everything I have.

        That’s what JMK said!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        In other tweets on the subject, McDaniel said that Moronta has been compared to Raul Mondesi by scouts…

        Aw, crap. That sucks. That means he’s gonna be as fat as Miggy Cabrera within a few months.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          I’d take the first six years of Mondesi’s career in a heartbeat.

          • Steve H

            I’d take his career in a heartbeat. 113 career OPS+ is better than Tino, Ripken, Tejada, Greg Vaughn, Matt Williams, Andruw Jones, Alan Trammell (for HOF), Mike Lowell, among many others.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            I like to call those years “The Pre-Pernil Era”.

          • JMK aka The Overshare

            Maybe he can run for Congress if it doesn’t work out.

            (Sad Trombone.)

    • Salty Buggah

      I just asked that earlier, like 3 posts before this

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        The Artist asked nicer.

        Let that be a lesson to you, Salty.

    • Accent Shallow

      What are the odds we never hear of this kid again?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        (thinks)

        High. One way or the other, we’ll hear from him again. We’re thorough that way.

        In a related story, Melquisedec Mesa.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    Doing a live chat on the blog at 7.30 PM. Come and join us here if you’re bored:

    http://www.puristbleedspinstri.....s-gracias/

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Bored doesn’t begin to describe it. I’ve been looking for stuff to post about daily, and nothing interests me even slightly.

      I’m heading over there right now.

  • Salty Buggah

    “A New York Yankees official downplayed the suggestion that the team had a serious interest in White Sox free-agent slugger Jermaine Dye, according to Tuesday’s editions of the New York Post.”

    I dont really want Dye, does anyone?

    • Steve H

      If it was 2006.

      • http://static.baseballtoaster.com/blogs/u/bronxbanter/2008/815/0001/Cabrera_Melky_-_2005_1080.jpg Drew

        +1

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I’m on board.

      Wait a minute, did you say Jermaine Dye? I thought you said Mike Cameron.

      Nevermind, then, forget I said it.

      • Steve H
        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          MattG says:
          November 24th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

          Torii Hunter WAR last 5 years: 13.8
          Mike Cameron WAR last 5 years: 16.9

          no joke.

          That’s sexy.

      • steve (different one)

        i thought he said a bottle of hair dye, which i assumed cashman was buying as a recruiting gift for Andy Pettitte.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          SPOILER ALERT: The hair dye is really HgH.

          • steve (different one)

            that explains why Clyde Frazier can now crush steel girders in his jaws.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              SPLENDIFEROUS!!!

            • Jack
              • steve (different one)

                i laughed out loud at that, thanks Jack.

                “Your scalp needs halp!”

  • Steve H

    I want to stay 100000 miles from Figgins this offseason. That being said, does anyone think he has truly transitioned into an on-base machine? I’m trying to think of similar guys that developed into on-base guys into their 30′s, the only one I can think of with a similar skill set was Tony Phillips, who was a beast once he got to Detroit at 31.

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    I’m reposting this. Since nobody responded to this yesterday, I’ll assume nobody clicked the link.

    Click the link. You will NOT be disappointed, I promise you.

    http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/node/3381278

    Come on, click it. You know you want to.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      I didn’t wnt to have to do this, but you leave me no choice.

      The title of the post: Tell me about your man bits

      NOW who’s interested?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I remember having a discussion like this with a mixed-gender group of friends back in high-school.

      Miscellaneous junior girl who’s name I don’t remember: “What’s it like to have a boner?”
      Young sophomore Tommie: “…Let me tell you all about it, baby.”

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        The internet’s changed things. Now instead of having that discussion, kids just gogle it, find this link, and voila.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          (pause)
          What the fuck is the internet?

          • Rob NY

            I’m not a regular but I’m pretty sure that the Internet is a communication tool used the world over where people can come together to bitch about movies and share pornography with one another.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          *google*

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Miscellaneous junior girl who’s name I don’t remember Rebecca/Riddering/etc.: “What’s it like to have a boner?”
        Young sophomore Tommie Dashing young version of Rocky Road Redemption: “…Let me tell you all about it show you, baby.”

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          /Cone’d

      • Jack

        . . . mixed-gender group of friends . . .

        When I first read this, there was a split second where I thought you meant a group of mixed-gender people. Bad times.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Meh, who knows, it’s been 15+ years, maybe one of those kids have pulled a Chaz Bono by now.

          • Jack

            *cold shiver*

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle.

    • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

      This Thanksgiving I am thankful for my vagina.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        This Thanksgiving, I am thankful for Riddering’s vagina.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Hey, I mentioned you!

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      Two more must-read gems (males will enjoy this one):

      http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/node/3461567

      BIGGEST MUST READ OF ALL:

      http://www.nanowrimo.org/eng/node/3448867

      You will not regret reading these posts!

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        All right..to get people to read the title of the second post is-wait for it-”Ladies with Big Breasts”.

        The first post is full of sex jokes.

        The second post is better.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Hahahahaha!

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      He’s already better than anyone in the Giants secondary.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        I just givoogled that cricket noise you make when something’s not funny but damn, I can’t find it.

        Consider it implied. :-(

  • Lanny

    The Tabata trade worked out since Marte played a significant role in helping win a title.

    All the pitchers were basically filler. Tabata could be a 10 yr all star and its still a good move with what Marte did in the ALCS and WS. Luckily it wasnt based on his regular season which was awful.

    • steve (different one)

      he got healthy just in time.

      this really was a charmed season.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        this really was a charmed season.

        Brett Gardner: Holly Marie Combs
        Jerry Hairston Jr.: Alyssa Milano
        Ramiro Peña: Rose McGowan
        Eric Hinske: Shannen Doherty
        Francisco Cervelli: Billy Drago

  • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

    Charlie Silvera on Casey Stengel:

    “He kept platooning, which caused the guys being platooned to play even harder when they got into the lineup. They’d say, “I’ll show that crooked-legged old bastard.’ That was fine with Casey. He wanted to win. And win today. None of that wait-till-next-year stuff. That was Brooklyn. None of that we’ll-get-’em-tomorrow. You were a Yankee. You got ‘em today.

    I love the Yankee way.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Did you see the THT piece on Martin?

      An absolute blast.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Here, its a great read.

        http://www.hardballtimes.com/m.....ly-martin/

        Billy Martin was either insane, a tortured genius, or both.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          I hadn’t seen that article–thanks for linking me to it. I read “October Men” not too long ago which focused heavily on Martin and he’s one of the most complex figures in baseball history. You love him, you hate him, you sympathize, fear, abhor, delight in, etc, etc. It’s difficult to peg down one feeling on the guy.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        You know, as painful as it is, I’ve had to let a few people go over the years…

        Yogi Berra… Lou Pinella… Bucky Dent… Billy Martin… Dallas Green… Dick Howser… Bill Virdon… Billy Martin… Stump Merrill… Billy Martin… Bob Lemon… Billy Martin… Gene Michael… Buck Showalter… Joe Torre…

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          If Billy was managing today, He’d get destroyed in the papers and online and I’d probably be one of his biggest critics. But as a kid, I loved him and reading about him is a real treat.

          • JMK aka The Overshare

            Billy Martin’s liver was brilliant.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              On the 20-80 scale, I give Billy Martin’s liver a 90.

  • JMK aka The Overshare
    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Is Michelle Damon gonna be there? No?

      Then no.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

    85,800 words and counting!

    I’m now ten pages from 320, which would equal the most I’ve ever written.

    So fucking cool.

    • Jack

      Nice. How many pages are you aiming for?

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        Not a page count per se, but at the rate I’m going it’ll probably end up between 350-400. Which is too long, probably, but oh well. It’s fucking art, yo!

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          It’s a coffee table book about coffee tables, isn’t it?

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

            You wish.

        • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

          Only the weak can’t handle a 400 page novel on baseball.

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)
    • Tom Zig

      do i get an autographed copy?

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

        If you come to the signing.

        • Tom Zig

          where? and how much is the book? and how do i buy?

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

            ….You do realize I’m still working on the first draft, right?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Pshaw… just petty details.

            • Tom Zig

              Yes

              preemptive strike

            • Tom Zig

              i just pre pre-order that shit

            • http://twitter.com/riddering Riddering

              This is RAB. We’ve already inducted Jesus into the HoF.

              • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

                Good point.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Thanksgiving weekend:

    Florida State @ #1 Florida
    #2 Alabama @ Auburn
    #3 Texas @ Texas A&M

    Who gets upset? Anyone?

    • http://static.baseballtoaster.com/blogs/u/bronxbanter/2008/815/0001/Cabrera_Melky_-_2005_1080.jpg Drew

      If I had to pick one I’d go with Bama

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        Agreed.

    • JSquared

      Florida.

    • Evil Empire

      UT crushes A&M. That’s all I know and all I care about.

  • http://theyankeeway.mlblogs.com/ Keanu Reeves

    So, I’m at a basketball game a few hours ago, selling raffle tickets for the baseball team and our trip to Florida. I start talking to this guy who’s from New Jersey. When he finds out I’m a baseball player and that I like the Yankees, he starts telling me about a kid his son played with in high school who got drafted by the Yanks. He kept going on about the 400 ft home runs and what a great kid he was. I asked him what the name was: none other than Eric Duncan.

    Not a great story, but I thought it was cool. Possibly even RAB worthy.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      You’ve just mentioned Eric Duncan without immediately pissing all over him in rage and disgust.

      You are now on Bo/Lanny’s shit list. (Don’t sweat it, it doesn’t make sense.)

    • Mike Pop

      I enjoyed it.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      That is most def RAB worthy.

  • Mike44

    If you are ever having a bad day, I recommend watching Damaso Marte in the World Series absolutely own Chase Utley and Ryan Howard.

    I don’t care if Jose Tabata wins an MVP, that trade was worth it for what Marte did in the WS vs. arguably the two best left-handed hitters in the National League.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Tabata for Marte and Nady = Gerald Williams and Bob Wickman for Graeme Lloyd and Pat Listach/Ricky Bones

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Remember the secret to Wickman’s slider?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Fat?

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            Childhood farm accident.

            Makes me want to chop off the top of my finger and go try out for a team.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              I like my answer better.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Remember when the Braves traded Max Ramirez for two and a half months of 37 year old Bob Wickman in 2006, even though he had a 4.16 ERA on the year at that point? And he was lights out from that point on, but they still finished 9 games out of the wildcard?

          Yeah… good times.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      As hot as Utley was, those ABs were uuuuge.

      • Jack

        Eh, he’s not really my type.

        • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

          Tell us about your man bits.

          • Jack

            They enjoy reading, napping, and long walks on the beach.

            • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

              So what’s it like having a boner?

              • Jack

                You know the Holocaust? Picture the exact opposite of the Holocaust.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  No, I mean in your ass.

                • Jack

                  Heh.

                  What’s the difference between jelly and jam?

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  You’d have to ask my dates.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  I’ve been waiting all night to use that one. You’re the lucky winner!

        • steve (different one)

          you don’t like huge abs? what about large obliques?

  • Reggie C.

    Pedro Alvarez is my pick for 2010 NL ROY.

    Horace Mann baby!

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      Wrong.

      2010 A.L and N.L ROY: M E L V I N

      • Reggie C.

        Mo laughs.

        There is only one Kwitszachaderach.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Steven Strasburg.

      BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, THAT JUST HAPPENED.

      (Not really, though, no. My serious pick is Todd Frazier of the Reds.)

      • Jack

        (Insert obligatory Edison Volquez joke here.)

        • JMK aka The Overshare

          Homer Bailey. Your mind, it is blown.

          • Jack

            Stupid spam filter.

            http://tinyurl.com/km33l4

            • JMK aka The Overshare

              There was once a video on Faces of Death where some Russian guy took a shotgun to this guy’s head execution style. It went everywhere! Needless to say, it was pretty awesome. Oh, and the beheading by the Chechen rebels was just…brutal.

      • Reggie C.

        You know what … I dont know if Alcides Escobar still qualifies at 125 ML at-bats, but if so, i think he could take it just b/c he plays a money position pretty darn well.

    • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

      No, not HoMann!

      (Then again, Collegiate has zero legit baseball prospects.)

  • Reggie C.

    So did a real ND fan actually give Jimmy Clausen a shiner the other night?? I thought it was some rogue BC fan.

    Anyways, is Clausen #1 pick material?

    • http://www.progressamericana.com/ Pablo Zevallos

      yeah (on both counts)

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      #1? Probably not. But he’s top 10 material.

      QB’s get overinflated, though, so every top 10 QB is kinda #1 material by default. It’s definitely Clausen and Locker in the dogfight for top QB on the board.

      And, of all the uber-shitty teams who are locks for the top ten, most of them need QB’s, so yeah, he’s in the mix.

      The Shitty Top Nine:
      Browns – yup
      Rams – yup
      Buccaneers – No, since they took Freeman
      Lions – No, since they took Stafford
      Bills – yup
      Raiders – yup
      Seahawks – yup
      Redskins – yup
      Chiefs – No, they’re locked into Cassel

      Plus, Frisco and Carolina are two of the 4-6 teams who could take a QB as well. If Bradford comes back healthy for the Combine, and McCoy has a good pro day, you could have 4 QB’s in the top 15 picks.

      • Reggie C.

        Why can’t Brady Quinn finish on a decent note? Quinn is at least as good as Sanchez right now. The Browns are not going QB shopping. They need to get a dynamic RB who can make plays out in the flat to lighten the load.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Why can’t Brady Quinn finish on a decent note?

          He can. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t pull the trigger on a new QB even if he does, though. The other thing complicating it is, who knows who the hell will be running the Browns come this April?

          Quinn is at least as good as Sanchez right now.

          Not fucking remotely, he’s not.

          The Browns are not going QB shopping. They need to get a dynamic RB who can make plays out in the flat to lighten the load.

          I agree. In my mock, I have the Browns taking whichever of the two stud DT’s fall to them (Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy). I’m just saying, the Browns organization is most definitely in flux and they have to be considered a wildcard right now. Mangini is a dead man coaching. I don’t think they’d take a QB, but they certainly could, if a new regime comes in and starts cutting heads.

          • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

            Quinn is at least as good as Sanchez right now.

            “Not fucking remotely, he’s not.”

            Perhaps I’m wrong, but I think he meant “playing as well as Sanchez right now”.

          • Mike Pop

            Quinn is at least as good as Sanchez right now.

            Not fucking remotely, he’s not.

            …..

            I think you’re being a little too biased here. ‘Not fucking remotely’? Please. Right now, they’re not far off from each other. Not a good thing, because Quinn is 25 but he has also been given less chances than Sanchez.

            I’d say you put Sanchez on the Browns right now, he does just as good or bad as Brady Quinn does and same with Brady on the Jets. They are both young QB’s – Sanchez will probably end up being a better QB. That’s my opinion.

            But don’t act like Sanchez is miles above Quinn right now.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Yes, let’s all overreact to 5 turnovers against the Pats and 4 touchdowns against the Lions.

              • Mike Pop

                Not what I’m doing.

                Brady Quinn is on the shittiest team in football with an idiot coach.

                Jets >>>>>>> Browns

                There is more to judging a QB than just the QB himself. Look at Jay Cutler behind a shitty Bears offensive line where he can’t get anything done.

              • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                Sanchez has had a terrible year. This is pretty undeniable.

                Is he a rookie? Yes. Will he get better? Almost certainly. Is he playing that much better than Quinn, RIGHT NOW? No. To be honest, right now he may be playing worse.

  • Salty Buggah

    It would be funny if the Nets beat the Nuggets. Doubt it though (now watch it come true…)

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime (Optimovelist Primus)

      They’re only down by 10!

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Now only seven!

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          THE COMEBACK IS ON!

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I think the Nets should just go all out and break the NBA record. 20 straight losses to open the season.

      If you can’t be good, be memorable.

      (Side note: In a perverse way, I bet breaking the opening loss streak record slightly helps your cause of recruiting LeBron. Maybe he likes the challenge.)

      • Jack

        Eh, probably not yet. You don’t do something for the challenge until you’ve won a title first.

      • Chris

        Who are the Nets trying to get with the first pick in the draft?

        • Mike Pop

          John Wall.

          • Reggie C.

            Lebron + Wall = must watch

            • Mike Pop

              King James to the Nets would be epic.

              Would be like this past offseason for the Yanks times two.

              • Mike Pop

                More of a fantasy than anything though.

                • Reggie C.

                  Jay-Z is still working on the blueprint to get James to Brooklyn.

                  It might happen.

                  All the shit the Knickers have put me through, I want the Nets to get ‘Bron & Wall.

                • Mike Pop

                  I want Lebron to surprise everyone and sign with the Lakers for a mid-level exception and then his reasoning to be:

                  ‘It’s all about winning’.

                • JMK aka The Overshare

                  I’m a Knicks fan but if the Nets got Lebron and John Wall, I’d switch allegiances that day. Considering how shitty the Knicks have been and for so long (and holy shit are the tickets expensive!), my patience has been thin for a while. Atlantic Yards looks like it’s proceeding.

                  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....lWv6R2YkIQ

                • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

                  If the Knicks or Nets got Lebron, I’d start following basketball & become a fan of the team Lebron goes to.

        • Salty Buggah
  • Salty Buggah

    So a couple of years ago, Melo was kinda overrated. Does anyone think he still is?

    • Steve H

      He’s taken a huuuuuuge leap this year. He’s gone from one of the best scorers in the league to one of the best players in the league.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Mets make their first big signing of the off season-

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....1ZHhNkM3OI

    Another 3 years hearing about how ‘these pitchers are all babied nowadays’ from a guy who never pitched.

    • Reggie C.

      Does that mean Delgado’s not coming back?

      Good! He now gets to refuse the salute the anthem elsewhere!!ll1L

      /O’REILY’D

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      They’re actually a pretty solid booth. They almost seem to hate the Mets sometimes. Can be pretty amusing.

  • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200...../#comments

    Yankees sign Dominican prospect

    According to Baseball America, the Yankees signed Dominican prospect Eladio Moronta. The center fielder, who recently had a MLB suspension for misrepresenting his age lifted, is said to have excellent speed and a strong arm.

    On a side note: Suspended for misrepresenting his age? Really? Somewhere, El Duque is shaking his head and laughing out loud.

    • Salty Buggah

      Waaaay late on that. 2 people brought it up already

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        Figured that, thought I’d post JIC (just in case, for future reference).

  • Jack
    • Mike Pop

      Awesome.

    • JMK aka The Overshare

      That would be so fucking great. It would be like Stephen Hawking in So You Think You Can Dance?.

  • Free Mike Vick

    When the Pirates win a world series with Tabata and Ohlendorf leading the way…call me please.

    ;)

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      Pirates are my b team.

      Calling it, right here and now. Pirates are making the playoffs in 10′, pushing out the Rockies for the WC. [Your mind, it is BLOWN!]

      • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

        BTW, they beat the Phils in the DS only to lose to the Giants in the CS (that’s right, Torre out, Linececum and friends in).

      • JMK aka The Overshare

        You’re insane. I’d wage my year’s salary that the Pirates do not make the playoffs.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          Ha! Galileo was called insane once, too!

          AND JUST LOOK AT HIM NOW!!!!

          /The Artist’d. Or Strawman’d. Whichever you prefer.

          • JMK aka The Overshare

            Ha! Charles Manson was called insane once, too!

            AND JUST LOO–

            /nevermind

      • Evil Empire

        My B-Team is the AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees. I don’t have any kind of emotional attachment or rooting interest whatsoever to any team not affiliated with the Yankees.

        • Steve H

          2010 Pirates=2007 AAA Yankees.

          • Evil Empire

            That is fucking hilarious, and eerily true. GO PIRATES.

            • Evil Empire

              I’m going to have to start calling them the Pirankees.

              • rbizzler

                Plus PNC Park is an amazing place to see a game (yes, i said amazing).