Game 43: Top pitching prospects, matured


In 2007, Baseball America ranked Phil Hughes the No. 4 prospect in baseball. He wasn’t the only New York prospect to make the list. Mike Pelfrey, his opponent tonight, was ranked No. 20. Both had ups and downs during the early years of their careers, but they have both become important parts of their teams’ pitching staffs. Tonight does not necessarily represent a test of any sort for either pitcher, but it’s certainly event when two touted young pitchers face each other.

Pelfrey broke out two years ago, when he threw 200.2 innings for the 2008 Mets. After a bit of a setback in 2009, including an increase in his home run and walk rates, Pelfrey has come on strong this year. He currently has a 3.02 ERA, and has thrown only one poor start, a six-run affair against Philly that came after he had allowed two earned runs in all of April. He’s struck out a few more batters than he has in the past, which likely has something to do with his splitter. He’s also a ground ball guy.

Phil Hughes is coming off his worst start of the season. He lasted only five innings against the Red Sox and allowed five runs, though, as I noted after the game, he seemed just a little off. Mike also followed up with a look at how Hughes attacked the Red Sox hitters. Even with the poor performance his ERA still sits at just 2.25. This is his first start on the road during interleague play.

During his pregame media session Joe Girardi mostly answered questions about Mariano Rivera. He said what he’s been saying for the past few days, the it’s about location for Mo, and he’s been catching a bit too much of the plate. “He gets into long counts at times,” Girardi added. He said that if the velocity were down that it would be a concern, but it is not. In fact, he added, Mo hit 94 on the gun at points this year. Baseball Info Solutions has him at right around the level he was last year, as does PitchFX. Girardi added that the flank issue that caused Mo to miss a few games earlier is completely gone.

The only other concern, he said, is if Mo can’t go back to back days. That might get tested tonight if the Yanks take a slim lead into the bottom of the ninth.

The other main topic was interleague play. He talked about the injury potential for pitchers, noting Brad Penny’s trip to the DL following his grand slam last night. That comes for an NL pitcher. It’s even tougher for AL pitchers, obviously, because they don’t regularly take BP. “We’re not going to do a simulated game,” Girardi said, “because you’re afraid that they’re going to get hurt.” It really is a tough situation for AL pitchers, and the Yanks know that first hand.

Finally, an update on Javy Vazquez. His index finger is still swollen, but better than yesterday. They won’t know anything until he throws his bullpen session, which should come on Monday. The main thing, Girardi said, is that he can grip the ball. From there everything should be fine.


1. Derek Jeter, SS
2. Brett Gardner, CF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
5. Robinson Cano, 2B
6. Nick Swisher, RF
7. Francisco Cervelli, C
8. Randy Winn, LF
9. Phil Hughes, P

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Carlosologist says:

    Can you imagine what the 2009 Yanks would look like if Wang hadn’t injured his foot and been effective? That team could have been like the 98 Yankees.

  2. ultimate913 says:

    I have a question. I’m here in Massachusetts(yuck) for the weekend and the hotel I’m in has ESPN, FOX, NESN and ESPN2 available. Will I be able to watch the Yankee game on FOX? Or will the Sox vs Phillies be on Fox?

  3. Gotta beat the Mets again baby! LET’S GO YANKEES!

  4. Yes, Kevin. David Wright is a good player. That’s why he’s got a .368 OBP and a .490 SLG and a .372 wOBA.

  5. Dela G says:

    man i live in houston and have to watch the cubs/rangers.

    i can’t believe i’m excited about listening to john sterling

  6. Ugh, why couldn’t these morons be in Philadelphia?

  7. JobaWockeeZ says:

    It’s the pregame and I want to mute my TV already.

  8. Tonight will be Hughes’ first PA! Woo!

  9. JobaWockeeZ says:

    At least Fox attempts a scouting report. Seesh YES.

  10. V says:

    And… Jeter has an awful at bat.

  11. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    Alright, come on Tex…you gotta start breaking out.

  12. JobaWockeeZ says:

    What do you mean the Yankees haven’t been resourceful last year? They lost their number 2 starters, starting right fielder and starting center fielding due to lack of production. They also had to revamp the entire bullpen not named Mo. Edwar was gone, Veras was gone, Bruney and Marte were hurt.

  13. Anyone else feel like Rodriguez is still feeling his way power wise at times? I’m sure it’s just selective memory, but I feel like he’s not crushing pitches that he absolutely demolished last year.

  14. Dela G says:

    good job al

  15. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    AROD setting the table for Robbie.

  16. WIlliam says:

    Come on Ribbie.

  17. JobaWockeeZ says:

    This ballpark sucks. But at least it’s better than Fenway.

  18. WIlliam says:

    Damn it, on the first pitch.

  19. Well struck by Cano, but he just got under it a bit.

  20. Hummingbird S. says:

    on gameday, the out was made on the warning track. Did Cano hit it hard or was it a weak out?

  21. Despite a .299 OBP, Barajas has a 127 OPS+.

  22. Dela G says:

    brilliant play by cano

  23. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Bay was probably robbed of two home runs yesterday but this ballpark. He’s got power.

  24. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Make Ike Davis your bitch Phil!

  25. Carlosologist says:

    Let’s go Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughes.

  26. Ivan says:

    Come on Hughes.

  27. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Changeup made no damn difference.

  28. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    I’m forced to watch it with the sound out because there are other people here. I want to just reach out and punch someone every time McCarver has that dry heaving laugh.

  29. Phil Hughes has thrown 12 changeups in 2010.

  30. whozat says:

    mmm…revisionist history.

  31. Ivan says:

    No Joe buck, Joba is fucking up, because he’s fucking up period.

  32. Dela G says:


  33. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    C’mon punch him out.

  34. whozat says:

    Hughes’ command doesn’t look great today.

  35. Dela G says:

    aight phil, you got to gather yourself here

  36. Ivan says:

    Come on Hughes, Ya betta than that.

  37. I was thinking Hughes should’ve gone to the curve there.

  38. Across the pond says:

    Damn, thought he was an automatic out!

  39. Carlosologist says:

    Lol everybody’s excited about a RBI single.

  40. Hummingbird S. says:

    not finishing off hitters, again..

  41. BigBlueAL says:

    All this with 2 outs and nobody on base.

  42. Dela G says:

    man phil is strugglin here

    at least they got the 3rd out to limit the damage

  43. Oh you’ve got to be fuckin’ kidding me.

  44. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    …broken bat bullshit blooper.

  45. Carlosologist says:

    Mehish inning for Hughes.

  46. James A says:

    I think Hughes is a little too proud of his cutter


  47. claybeez says:

    Hughes only seems to be able to command the FB on the inside corner to a righty/outside to a lefty. Everything else looks up or middle.

  48. Devil In A Blue Cap says:

    How many non-fastball pitches did he throw that inning? Not that I’m knocking the fastball, it’s an awesome pitch, but since that’s pretty much all he’s throwing, it’s a bit of a giveaway what he’s going to throw next.

  49. baby carlos says:

    well, I guess it is Phil’s turn to struggle this time out. Every other starter has been struggling since the night game in Boston.

  50. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    Hope Hughes irons it out the next bottom half.

  51. ZZ says:

    Wright had no chance on Hughes’ 4 seamer in that at bat.

    But he again decides to speed up his bat with the cutter.

  52. What’s going to be big going forward for Phil is if he can adjust once the hitters adjust to the cutter.

  53. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    LOL look at Fielder go.

    • whozat says:

      He is HUGE. Anyone who gives him a long-term deal is going to really, really regret it.

      Come on, guys…at least clear the pitcher’s spot this inning!

  54. Dela G says:

    this is too easy for pelfrey… :/

  55. James A says:

    Tim McCarver is incapable of doing a Yankee game without bringing up 2004. He just can’t do it.

  56. Frigidevil says:

    Did Mccarver just say Pagan’s RBI double should have drove in 2 runs if not for Wright’s base running screw up?

  57. baby carlos says:

    ugh. It is Mike Pelfrey. Really?

  58. Pasqua says:

    By the way, wasn’t “Cowboy Up” the Sox 2003 refrain? Not 2004?

    Stupid analysis is one thing, but re-writing history in front of a national tv audience is just infuriating.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      Correct. It was 2003. I believe the Red Sox were all about the “idiots” moniker in ’04.

  59. baby carlos says:

    since this game is blacked out on mlb watching twins/brewers. My god the brewers have horrible pitching.

  60. Dela G says:

    plz get on base, randy

  61. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    Winn burning up some pitches in this AB, good for him!

  62. Mike Axisa says:

    Nice job clearing the pitcher, Randall.

  63. Devil In A Blue Cap says:

    Excellent, Randy Winn got on base. Now they can…oh, right, the pitcher. I hate the NL.

  64. Carlosologist says:

    Hughes goes long?

  65. NC Yankee Fan says:

    Let us see Phil hit!

  66. Across the pond says:

    He looks much bigger at the plate than on the mound

  67. JobaWockeeZ says:

    4 pitches seen by Hughes. Productive. No sarcasm.

  68. Dela G says:

    not too bad of an AB by hughes

  69. Devil In A Blue Cap says:

    If Phil gets a hit, does he get to keep the ball as his first ML hit? Or would that be tacky?

    • whozat says:

      Why would it be tacky? Shouldn’t he be allowed to keep a memento of something that, I’m sure, he’d be pretty excited about?

    • Frigidevil says:

      Well let’s see. Position players generally keep their first hit balls, right? Pitchers sometimes keep their first strikeout ball. Nick Swisher kept his first strikeout ball, so therefore Hughes should keep his first hit ball.

      I knew learning proofs would help me one day

  70. whozat says:

    Wait, really? Tim McCarver doesn’t believe in pitchers hitting?

  71. FIPster Doofus says:

    Great AB.

  72. Dela G says:

    well at least pelfrey’s pitch count is at 36 after 2

  73. NC Yankee Fan says:

    He made contact, Seems like C.C. is dying to get in some licks against Johan tomorrow

  74. Hummingbird S. says:

    hey, 7 pitch AB, that was nice

  75. Across the pond says:

    First AB since high school – Impressive.

  76. ZZ says:

    It is hard to understand what Phil and/or Cervelli are seeing in these at bats the past 2 starts that makes them want to go to the cutter.

    Last week Ortiz was not even close of Phil’s 4 seamer. This week, same thing with Wright.

    It will be interesting to see how much Phil goes to the cutter when the count is in his favor the rest of the game. If he starts to fall in love with it again in big spots, Cervelli really needs to go out to the mound and not defer so much to his choice.

    • Devil In A Blue Cap says:

      Really, I’d love to see more offspeed pitches. Like I said upthread, I think he’s becoming predictable.

      • JohnnyC says:

        You got that right. That’s something all of the younger pitchers need to work on. See Joba and the 2 strike slider.

  77. This 0-2 count to Barajas would be a good chance to show the curve.

  78. Dela G says:

    how bout my fantasy spot starter, gio gonzalez?

    beats matt cain 1-0, throws 8innings, too

    got to love it

  79. Carlosologist says:


  80. Mike Axisa says:

    Barajas and Frenchy just swing at five consecutive pitches.

  81. Well, if there’s a time to throw all fastballs, it’s when the 7, 8, 9 spots are up.

  82. boogie down says:

    beautiful inning

  83. Carlosologist says:

    Something sad: Mike Pelfrey has a higher OBP than Jeff Francouer.

  84. Tom Zig says:

    Rod Effing Barajas is currently the top ranked catcher in fantasy O_O

  85. Esteban says:

    Could anybody offer any advice for getting gameday to work. It never initializes. Using firefox with a windows 7 and lastest flash.

  86. Dela G says:


  87. Carlosologist says:

    Jeter has been BABip’s bitch this month.

  88. boogie down says:

    does Jeter have a date tonight?

  89. V says:

    So, who ends the game taking more pitches per plate appearance, Jeter or Hughes?

  90. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Ugly swing Gardy.

  91. Dela G says:

    this is mike pelfrey, pound him plz

  92. baby carlos says:

    Gardner takes 5 pitches, Jeter 1.

  93. baby carlos says:

    And there is “can’t hit”Tex… ugh.

  94. Mike Axisa says:

    One of these days Mark Teixeira will stop sucking.

  95. Will the real May Tex please stand up?

  96. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    Reyes smug mug ticks me off…

  97. Did they really ask Manuel about his job precariousness? Wow. That’s just…so unclassy in so many ways.

    • boogie down says:

      Agreed. I think if it can be brought up, everyone knows that he’s more or less on thin ice, in which case there’s no need to mention it.

  98. JohnnyC says:

    It’s a good thing we’ve got a schedule of relative patsies in the next 3-4 weeks. Otherwise the Rays could open up quite a lead. Karma in terms of injuries is a real bitch.

  99. William says:

    Yay for Arod’s fielding this year.

  100. boogie down says:

    Is Hughes’ control off tonight? On Gameday it seems as if his pitches are all over the place, only I can’t tell whether that’s by design or not.

  101. That was a very good curveball, Phil. Remember that. Please.

  102. BigBlueAL says:

    Just curious since Ive read many articles saying Jeter’s D is bad again this season and just from watching games in general it looks like that too but what do the stats say so far????

    • Across the pond says:

      Was just going to say that on eye’s evidence it looks like the range is gone to both sides.

    • rek4gehrig says:

      Unring the Mink

    • JohnnyC says:

      It’s more positioning and pitchers not executing location. ARod’s been victimized to his right a bunch recently. Playing the hitter not to pull and the pitch drifts inside.

    • boogie down says:

      Current values, per Fangraphs:

      Double Play Runs: 0.3
      Range Runs: -0.2
      Error Runs: 1.2
      UZR: 1.3
      UZR/150: 4.9

      I feel shocked, Cotton.

  103. baby carlos says:

    I hate when mediocre players like Bay have success against the Yankees.

  104. JohnnyC says:

    Changeup? Davis is a lefty.

  105. You know, guys, maybe it’s not just the field. Maybe it’s the fact that, currently, the Mets have two guys that could be big power guys–Wright and Bay. No Beltran (for now?). No Delgado.

  106. baby carlos says:

    you all hear about the bull fighter who got gored today – horn went under his chin and out his mouth. Gruesome.

  107. The Mets don’t need to move the fences in; they just need to lower the ones in left and left center. If you’re going to have deep fences, make the walls eight feet high like everyone else; there’s no need for them to be 12 feet high when they’re as deep as they are.

  108. rek4gehrig says:

    Do not walk this guy

  109. Dela G says:

    man hughes you got to get wright this time

  110. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Hughes needs to finish off these batters.

  111. BigBlueAL says:

    Same crap as the 1st inning, gets 1-2 batters out then a hit to Bay and walk to Davis.

  112. Learn from the last at bat, Phil. Don’t rely on the cutter too much.

  113. rek4gehrig says:

    No cutter please

  114. Carlosologist says:

    A-Rod’s fielding thus far: 4.1 UZR/150 (in 326 innings at third)

  115. Hummingbird S. says:

    zero command from Hughes, that’s unfortunate

  116. Dela G says:

    not again

  117. Across the pond says:

    ffs it’s like de ja vu here.

  118. rek4gehrig says:

    Deja vu all over again

  119. William says:

    Dammit, stupid correction.

  120. claybeez says:

    Man, Hughes can elevate a pitch.

  121. BigBlueAL says:

    Deja vu.

  122. Dela G says:

    yay the out was made!

  123. I wonder if they’ll go all FBs to Wright again in the third AB.

  124. Dela G says:

    i thought this photo of juan rivera was hilarious

  125. Hummingbird S. says:

    I’d like to have good Hughes back.

  126. JohnnyC says:

    Well, no one expected Hughes to finish the season with an ERA under 2.

  127. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Thanks for the overhead view Fox. Bastards.

  128. claybeez says:

    Seemed like a spoilable pitch. A-Rod just guessing?

  129. Across the pond says:

    Kinda like the ump’s punch out move.

  130. baby carlos says:

    ok so the offense can feel free to show up at any time.

    Again, Mike freakin Pelfrey.

  131. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Offense has been slowing down these past couple of games.

  132. baby carlos says:

    wonder if the Yankees realize the more they suck the more we as fans have to listen to McCarver.

  133. Mike Axisa says:

    Have they even hit a ball out of the infield yet?

  134. Hey guys, did you know that a lot of analysts and commentators think Robinson Cano could win a batting title?

    • Carlosologist says:

      Really? I thought he was too lackadaisical and didn’t have enough grit or heart to win a batting title.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Why sue stats when we can measure heart? Then obviously Pedroia would win it.

        For every inch he’s shorter than the average male it adds up to his heart.

  135. rek4gehrig says:

    Silly question…no Russo today?

  136. Carlosologist says:

    Who does Pelfrey think he is? Beckett?

  137. Harold Moskowitz says:

    Who has to kick the bucket around this place to get another “inning of silence” from these assclowns?

  138. baby carlos says:

    poor defense by pelfrey

  139. Dela G says:

    attaboy swish

  140. danny says:

    thank you swish.

  141. boogie down says:

    swisher’s patience is amazing.

  142. Come on, Frankie. You’ve gotta take pitches after a 10 pitch AB.

  143. Mike Axisa says:

    Cervelli’s 1 for his last 15. Might be time for a day off, Joe.

  144. Dela G says:

    looks like frankie is falling back to earth these past 6 or so games :(

  145. Watching that commercial, you’d think Dusin Pedroia was David Eckstein part two. He was a second round pick out of a really good baseball school. Overlooked? I think not.

  146. danny says:

    c’mon huuuughes.

  147. JM says:

    Being sad about a 3-run deficit for a offensively slumping team, I am feeling an 8-1 Mets win, as much as it hurts.

  148. claybeez says:

    Keeps the FB down and gets the K. Nice job, Phil.

  149. Wow, great play by Corey Hart.

  150. Mike Axisa says:

    I actually feel bad for Mets fans. They have to watch Frenchy every day damn.

    • JMK says:

      And the lukewarm bodies of Jose Reyes and until very recently, Jason Bay. At least they don’t have high expectations of Frenchy. They do with Bay, Reyes, Santana and Wright. As they should.

    • Through the 20 inning game: .381/.451/.714

      Since the 20 inning game: .155/.204/.243

  151. Dela G says:

    good job

  152. poster says:

    Frankly, I think we’re going to lose tonight. Oh well.

  153. I know it’s the pitcher, but nothing deflates my spirits more than a bunt.

  154. JMK says:

    Every time I turn on the tv, search for the Yankee game and realize it’s a Fox presentation, I develop this odd glaze. It reminds me of the time I took Mr. Nipples to the vet and saw in his eyes that he realized he was getting neutered.

  155. danny says:

    hahaha maine looks so pissed.

  156. Spaceman.Spiff says:

    As McCarver has emphasized, Jerry Manuel has a plus-plus humor tool.

  157. Dela G says:

    cmon gardy

  158. baby carlos says:

    fuck this

  159. Hummingbird S. says:

    Mike Pelfrey is not this good, is he?

  160. BigBlueAL says:

    At first I wanted Gardner 2nd and Swisher 6th, I think I want Swisher back batting 2nd.

  161. Spaceman.Spiff says:

    Zen Baseball.

  162. JM says:

    It is kind of inexcusable to be shutout by Pelfrey, but then again, same for Takahashi. The Yankees need SOMETHING to jumpstart them this game. A homerun or just some sort of rally. PLEASE I don’t want to hear this from Mets fans for a month.

  163. Mike Axisa says:

    Where did that pitch miss?

  164. FIPster Doofus says:

    That was a ball? Really?

  165. Dela G says:

    man bay owns us

  166. baby carlos says:

    jason bay, mike pelfrey….who is next.

    I don’t mind be being beaten by better teams but not mediocre.

  167. Frittoman626 says:

    The thing that pisses me off is when th yankees get a big lead, other teams come back, but when opposing has a big lead, the Yankees 90% of the time never come back, if castillo scores, the game is over >:(

  168. Accent Shallow says:

    Phil, how about you don’t walk Davis for a third time.

  169. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Could really use a DP right now, Phil is cruising except when he hits the middle of the order.

  170. Get a grounder, Phil. Gotta keep it close.

  171. Dela G says:

    yay got ike!

  172. Okay, good. Now get the last out and cut the rally off. Let’s go, Phil.

  173. Accent Shallow says:

    So how did someone who will chase a pitch that high walk twice?

  174. Now don’t speed up his bat.

  175. Dela G says:

    impressive way to get out of that!

  176. poster says:

    Cervelli with da fist pump!!!11!!!111!

  177. FIPster Doofus says:

    Great job by Phil. Must score now.

  178. Big strikeouts there to keep it close. 3-4-5-6? R-U-N-S. Do it, Yanks.

  179. Accent Shallow says:

    How about some runs? I don’t think much of Pelfrey.

  180. So I assume they’ll just let Phil go until his spot in the order comes up again, right?

  181. Accent Shallow says:

    Teixeira, anytime you’d like to start hitting would be ok with me.

  182. Dela G says:

    man tex…

  183. FIPster Doofus says:

    What a terrible AB.

  184. BigBlueAL says:

    Helluva at-bat by Tex. Brilliant.

  185. baby carlos says:

    anyone know how many times Tex swings rather than just sit and watch pitches.

    God good thing his defense is good, because he makes Giambi look like Babe Ruth.

    • whozat says:

      A) That is an absurd indictment of tex’s offensive abilities, given his career performance, and his performance just last year.
      B) Go look at You can look up all those sorts of splits, if you’re interested in learning and not just complaining.

      • baby carlos says:

        A) – always responding with career numbers is lame. right now he is horrible at the plate, can’t pick up pitches, swings at everything out of the zone… so ya, he will rebound, I know this. But that doesn’t change that right now, Randy Winn is hitting better.

        B) – those splits are fantastic to look at – but like all numbers, they do not tell the whole truth – He has struck out twice against MIKE PELFREY. Plus, he played most of his career in Texas – that is like taking any Rockies hitters numbers seriously.

        So while I thank you for thinking that I am clueless to how the game works, you have given nothing that supports that Tex sucks at the plate right now.

  186. ZZ says:

    Those 2 at bats with Davis and Wright just make the approach Phil and Cervelli took with those guys the first 2 times they faced him all the more puzzling.

    I continue to really dislike Cervelli catching Phil, but there is nothing you can do about it now that Posada is out.

  187. Steve O. says:

    Alex Cora says “you know” a little too much. Just a little nit.

  188. Tom Zig says:

    Has Tex been making out with Jeter? Seems as though he caught his case of the suck.

  189. Dela G says:

    man this is depressing

    cmon bats, plz wake up!

  190. Did Rodriguez really just strike out on an 84 MPH pitch that was up in the zone? Wow.

  191. baby carlos says:

    this fucking offense is like dealing with a teenager.

  192. Accent Shallow says:

    Changeups up in the zone? Ick.

  193. Did that just hit Cano in the face?

  194. forensicnucchem says:

    Tex, would it kill you to hit an outside pitch the other way, just ONCE???

  195. baby carlos says:

    top 4 are 1-11…1 walk and 5 K’s.

  196. Shdw says:

    I don’t know whether to ask who kidnapped Pelfrey and replaced him with this guy or who kidnapped the Yankees and replaced them with this offense

    • Spaceman.Spiff says:

      Pelfrey’s been a good pitcher this year, dunno why everyone is calling him a scrub… But the Yankees are also just not doing their job at the plate either.

  197. Dela G says:

    hmm cmon cano

    one more guy reaches base, and pelfrey will prolly be done

  198. Accent Shallow says:

    I’ve had enough Alex Cora. Let’s see the game, please.

  199. ZZ says:

    Tex is killing this lineup. You can’t have your 3 hole hitter be this bad for this long.

    And it is not even about luck and you can’t even be optimistic that he is coming around.

    His at bats are just awful and pitchers continue to pitch him almost the same exact way in every single at bat, yet he is not adjusting at all.

  200. Two out rally time.

  201. Dela G says:

    good job cano

  202. Mike Axisa says:

    This has to be Pelfrey’s last inning, no? He’s over 100 pitches.

  203. poster says:

    You know, VERY coincidental that Pelfrey is good and the offense is bad on the same day. Not suggesting anything, but I find this very, very interesting…


  204. FIPster Doofus says:


  205. Dela G says:

    swish! nice!

  206. poster says:

    Fuck. Cano didn’t score.

  207. Way to be, Swish.

    I really wish the cameras had switched to a different view so I didn’t have to tell if it was fair/foul by the fans’ reactions. Awesome job, Fox.

  208. Johan Iz My Brohan says:


  209. danny says:

    andd now cervelli gets to come up. get well grandy!

  210. Dela G says:

    cmon cerv


  211. Accent Shallow says:

    Luckily for Pelfrey, he now gets Cervelli, and Winn if Cervelli reaches.

    /I miss the circular lineup

  212. baby carlos says:

    bottom six have 4 of the 5 hits and zero K’s – and that includes the pitcher.

  213. Dela G says:

    thank you jesus!!


  214. Accent Shallow says:

    <3 bullshit hit <3

  215. poster says:

    WHEW, we needed that.

  216. JM says:

    I’ll take that. Of course, Winn’s up.

  217. danny says:

    hahah dont care how its scored, a run is a run

  218. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    You got this Winn!

  219. Dela G says:


    man that sucked

  220. FIPster Doofus says:

    Well, at least they got one.

  221. JM says:

    that killed it.

  222. BigBlueAL says:

    Winn always seems to come up in huge spots late in games while the team is trailing and there are 2 outs. Not good.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Eh, he’s first of the gang to be DFAed.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Just like you navigate an NL lineup to get to the pitcher, in this lineup you navigate to get to Winn. Bad. And, in this stretch of games, the Yankees have allowed the opposing pitcher to do just that.

  223. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Take a strike hike Winn…

  224. danny says:

    hahah never seen that pepsi commercial before

  225. Steve O. says:

    Can anyone find the interview with Vince Young where he said “at the same time” numerous times? I can’t seem to find it on the interwebs. I keep getting some bullshit interviews.

    Do you go with Miranda there? I think I would have.

  226. Dela G says:

    man, give up pagan

  227. Accent Shallow says:

    Have we seen any changes from Hughes today? I missed the first four innings or so.

  228. Dela G says:

    wow randy winn

    good fucking god

  229. FIPster Doofus says:


  230. poster says:


  231. BigBlueAL says:

    Thames sucks in LF. Wait, what……

  232. Harold Moskowitz says:

    Damon would’ve had that catch!

  233. JM says:

    Winn isn’t hitting, Winn isn’t fielding. He. Is. Useless.

  234. forensicnucchem says:

    Well, that won’t help people like Winn…..

  235. poster says:

    HOLY SHIT, what a play!

  236. Accent Shallow says:

    So that wasn’t a legit double by Pagan, I gather?

  237. ZZ says:

    One of you guys should do a post tomorrow on Hughes putting away hitters.

    I don’t have the splits in front of me, but even beyond tonight he seems to be struggling to put guys away when he gets in a pitcher’s count.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Well, if you don’t throw any secondary pitches consistently for strikes (especially when you’ve over-used the cutter), you don’t fool too many batters.

  238. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    Hey look! Its Logan in the BP!

  239. Mike Axisa says:

    Is he really going to walk Jeff Francoeur on four pitches?

  240. Accent Shallow says:

    Hughes looks gassed.

  241. forensicnucchem says:

    Not wanting to be upstaged by Winn’s stellar play, Logan wants to get right into this game.

  242. DFD says:

    Enough Randy Winn. Put Chan Ho Park in left field. Yea, that’s what I said.

  243. Accent Shallow says:

    I thought Mejia had been sent down to be stretched out?

  244. poster says:

    What a fucking tease there Cervelli. Ugh.

  245. poster says:

    No comments on that Tex gem?

    • forensicnucchem says:

      That was a good play. This thread is only for bad play comments.

      Comments about good plays, since they are so rare and not part of the normal Yankees M.O., can be entered in the ‘Off-Topic Thread’. :-)

  246. Accent Shallow says:

    Wow, Francoeur sucks.

  247. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    Love the fist pump and point by Cerve.

  248. Steve says:

    Where’s the changeup? He can’t put these guys away the 2nd/3rd time through the order

  249. Frittoman626 says:

    Francoeur is trash

  250. Accent Shallow says:

    What is Cervelli going to be like in 2013? I hope ably backing up Montero or Romine.

  251. Patrick says:

    Give me Carl Crawford in LF please!

    Double my ass!

  252. Accent Shallow says:

    115 pitches and only 29 balls?


  253. ShuutoHeat (Igawa > Logan) says:

    Thanks a lot Mr. Fucking Obvious McCarver for pointing out the fact that the HP UMP have padding under all the clothes.

  254. Frittoman626 says:


  255. This is what happens when you don’t throw a curveball, Phil. Jesus Christ.

  256. poster says:

    What a shame.

  257. Dela G says:

    damn u cora

    eff u randy winn

  258. Patrick says:

    Thanks Winn

  259. BigBlueAL says:

    Really, a 2-strike hit to Cora??

    • claybeez says:

      Wasn’t hard hit. Just found a hole. That will happen. They were probably better of pulling him and bringing in someone fresh.

  260. claybeez says:

    Too bad he couldn’t put Cora away. Just ran out of gas. All things considered a solid start by Phil. Still battling with command, but finding a way to fight through it.

  261. JM says:

    I wish Hughes was able to put guys away today.

  262. Accent Shallow says:

    I agree with whatever expletive Hughes just barked into his glove. Cora is dogshit.

  263. danny says:

    good job by hughes. screw you winn.

  264. Steve O. says:

    Out of all their terrible players, Alex “Ya know” Cora, gets the run in.

  265. whozat says:

    So, how many pitchers that have been developed under Ryan’s pitch-count-less system have actually hit the majors, hmm? I’m gonna go with 0. There just hasn’t been enough time for anyone that’s begun under his watch to show up in the bigs.

  266. JMV says:

    well hopefully better luck tomm against santana
    game is pretty much over now

  267. Frittoman626 says:

    Well i hope CC has a good day tomorrow, because the Yanks aren’t winning today, and they wont touch Santana tomorrow batting like this, I WISH THIS TEAM CAN PROVE ME WRONG, BUT THIS IS REALLY FUSTRATING >xO

  268. Rich M says:

    How the hell is Dice K pitching a no hitter thru 7 against the Phils?

  269. CNight_UP says:

    I sure am glad Russo got the start in left the day after he had a big night….oh wait….

  270. claybeez says:

    Come on Park, get Castillo!

  271. BigBlueAL says:

    Holy crap, Dice-K has a No-Hitter thru 7 innings in Philly.

  272. claybeez says:

    Por fin!

  273. Frittoman626 says:


  274. JohnnyC says:

    Cashman should have hired Towers a little earlier in the off-season. Could have used a better cross-checker than Billy Eppler.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      And Eppler is a bad cross checker . . . why? How do you know?

      This isn’t snark, I really want to know.

      • JohnnyC says:

        Billy Eppler is the Director of Pro Scouting. He’s the go-to guy on personnel decisions at the major league level.

        • Accent Shallow says:

          Ok, I know that. How do you know he’s bad at his job? Or is this “Eppler is ok, but Towers is better”?

  275. Salty Buggah says:

    With the way things are going for Yanks lately, that Winn misplay will be the difference in the game.

  276. claybeez says:

    Jeter, keep the ball rolling….and not to the SS.

  277. JohnnyC says:

    BTW, what was with the inning-long interview of Alex Cora? And where’s the equal time for Chad Moeller?

  278. BigBlueAL says:

    Russo trying to solidify a spot on the Yankees as more than just a temporary injury call-up.

  279. FIPster Doofus says:

    A comeback is brewing

  280. Rich M says:

    Can they just keep Russo and dump Winn please?

  281. Tom Zig says:

    Fun fact: Brett Gardner has hit a HR in CitiField

  282. baby carlos says:

    Dice K pitching a no hitter, Fat Papi diving for a ground ball… Philly you are doomed.

  283. Frittoman626 says:

    Please prove me wrong Yankees

  284. claybeez says:

    No Ollie?

  285. baby carlos says:

    Shit… I would love to see Tex make a fool of me….hope the odd are in his favor.

  286. Accent Shallow says:

    Tex, this would be a wonderful time to remember that you’re actually an excellent hitter.

  287. Frittoman626 says:

    I know a Tex message from Mark is too much to ask for but COME ON TEX GET A HIT!!!

  288. Dela G says:

    wow tex

  289. Accent Shallow says:

    Well, that was unsurprising. Sheesh.

  290. poster says:

    WTF is Tex swinging at? That ball wasn’t even close.

  291. BigBlueAL says:

    This is becoming hilarious with Tex.

  292. baby carlos says:

    well done Tex. Well done.

  293. Drew says:

    May Teix was nice. ‘Im still waiting for Lefty Teix though.

  294. forensicnucchem says:

    Wow, runners on second and third with one out is their kryptonite.

  295. Frittoman626 says:

    LETS GO A-ROD!!! Tex is as bad as it gets, and Red Sox fans were down on Ortiz, at least Tex plays good D

  296. baby carlos says:

    losing to the mets is like being swept by KC.

  297. Accent Shallow says:

    So who’s pitch teh eight!? for the Mets? Mejia if he gets out of this? Perez? K-Rod for the two out save?

    Then again, the Yankees’ lineup post-Swisher is pretty subpar.

  298. Frittoman626 says:

    How bad would it B if Matsuzaka gets a no-hitter, we wont here enough of this, plus Varitek is catching

  299. Accent Shallow says:

    Literally the worst breaking ball I’ve ever seen.

  300. FIPster Doofus says:

    Juan Castro just ended Dice-K’s no-no with two outs in the eighth. Good.

  301. Frittoman626 says:

    Good job Castro

  302. Fuck. That was their best chance. Goddammit.

  303. poster says:

    This game sucks balls.

  304. claybeez says:

    That sucked.

  305. Salty Buggah says:

    Apparently A-Jax just got hit in the face with a fastball.

  306. baby carlos says:

    Meja just ended the Yankees chances to win… what is their percentage now, anyone know.

    • Frittoman626 says:

      5% percent the Yankees win, god i hate Bay ever since he was in Boston

      • baby carlos says:

        Thank you kindly. Couldn’t find the percentages…

        And hated Bay when he was with Pittsburgh. Thankfully the Yankees didn’t get him.

  307. Tom Zig says:

    I can’t wait for the real A-rod and Tex to come back

  308. Frittoman626 says:

    I really hate the Yankees these last 2 weeks, I know they’re in a slump, but this is rediculous

  309. ZZ says:

    All those posters that destroyed that person (dkidd?) last night getting on Tex are beginning to look rather silly now.

    And they are going to continue to be.

    Those 2 great games in May that Tex had are only going to mask his terrible overall performance in this month for so long.

    • baby carlos says:

      um apparently you don’t understand the rules of this blog. career numbers always are the answer, so is small sample, it is a long season, and most important, if you complain about Tex, you are whining.

      • ZZ says:

        The most ironic part is that people were citing statistical “evidence” and inferring that the statistics do not lie.

        But it was just a complete misuse of statistics.

      • poster says:

        Dude you’re an asshole. Sorry, you’re going to lambast me for this, but it kind of had to be said.

        • lurker says:

          so ZZ is an asshole for posting insightful comments that you disagree with? your comment indicates that you have been so thoroughly dominated by his analysis you have no reply other than to call him an asshole. basically, you’re worthless at this point.

          • poster says:

            You know why you’re worthless? You thought I was responding to ZZ. Also, your logic is totally ridiculous. Because I call someone an asshole in no way implies I was sominated by an analysis. It merely means I think that person did something asinine, and thus worthy of the “title”.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      Ehh. I’m not the least bit worried about Tex. Frustrated? Yes. But he’ll get on track.

    • dygg says:

      His name was dygg. It’s ok though, he’s a jerk most of the time anyway.

  310. baby carlos says:

    jason bay 4-4…. Pelfrey – cy young.

    good grief

  311. Patrick says:

    scutaro the midget

  312. Carlosologist says:

    Thank you Juan Castro of the Phillies! If Dice-BB threw a no-hitter I would never hear the end of it from one annoying Sox fan at my school.

  313. Mejia’s 20 years old! How could he possibly have any sort of presence of mind …

  314. Steve O. says:

    What’s all this with Hughes not being able to put hitters away? He had 7 strikeouts. I know he hasn’t looked as sharp, but still, he’s been throwing well.

  315. forensicnucchem says:

    There aren’t many things that are more annoying than Kevin Millar calling Red Sox highlights.

  316. bexarama says:

    Just got home, looked at the score, looked at several of the last comments here, wasn’t surprised.

  317. baby carlos says:


  318. poster says:

    I’m calling it, this game is over.

    This game sucked. The offense has just looked like shit for the past two days.

  319. BigBlueAL says:

    Pagan with his 2nd lucky-ass hit w/2 outs and a runner on 2nd base. Yanks just arent meant to win this game tonight it seems.

  320. Frittoman626 says:

    Fuck this game, fuck the Mets, Rays, and Sox, im just going to watch Star Wars on spike, c yall later

  321. Nice range, Brett!

    /silver lining’d

  322. baby carlos says:

    anyone remember when the last time the yankees threw out a runner stealing second

  323. Comeback starts now!

    /still optimistic

    • Carlosologist says:

      Boone Logan is warming, so if the game is tied, the Mets will get a lead once again.

      /Devil’s advocate’d

  324. forensicnucchem says:

    Everyone thinks Winn is a sure thing for first DFA of the season, but Park could really give him a run for his money considering the organization’s greater potential depth for relievers over the depth for outfielders.

    • Steve O. says:

      Park will be a key part of the bullpen throughout the season and the playoffs. Write it down. If anyone is getting DFA’d it will be Logan.

  325. baby carlos says:

    boone logan warming… might as well say Girardi concedes.

  326. BigBlueAL says:

    Gotta admit, Yankees never go down w/o a fight offensively at the least.

  327. BigBlueAL says:

    Thames to pinch-hit for the pitcher??

  328. forensicnucchem says:

    Cano = clogging up the bases :-)

  329. Ugh. Makes me wish Posada was available. Or Pena had at least some power.

  330. Tom Zig says:

    it’s gonna come back to Tex and you know what he’ll do?? Strike out, but Barajas will make a 4 base error.

  331. BigBlueAL says:

    I hate that, wasting 2 players for 1 at-bat and leaving you really short now on the bench.

  332. Nieve made Miranda look childish on that.

  333. cuponoodles says:

    Another doozie from Chan Ho ’1 ER per appearance’ Park?

    Can we say : I can not keep it close?

    Aceves for the win, por favor?!?!?!

  334. forensicnucchem says:

    I really hope Thames was just a decoy there and he still can’t play. I do not want to see him tomorrow against Santana. His numbers are scary bad against him (4-34, 13 K’s).

  335. danny says:

    please just hit the ball.

  336. poster says:

    That was an absolutely atrocious at bat. Wow.

  337. ZZ says:

    Rather generous on the outside corners right now blue.

  338. danny says:

    NL just confused me for 2 sceonds there

  339. baby carlos says:

    wow bases loaded with no outs… not hopeful

  340. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Clutch K Russo C’mon!

  341. BigBlueAL says:

    Russo fighting back to get the count to 3-2.

  342. Russo clearly attends the Nick Johnson School of Hitting.

  343. Mike Axisa says:

    Kevin Russo’s a man. He’s 40.

  344. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Should be ball 5

    and the game should be 5-3

    Thanks Miranda….

  345. ZZ says:

    Really nice ab for Russo.

  346. poster says:

    That was a freaking AWESOME AB by Russo. Makes up for the bad Miranda AB.

  347. BigBlueAL says:

    When is Russo’s Yankeeography!?!?! lol

  348. forensicnucchem says:

    Somebody tell Cano that a walk with the bases loaded means you advance a base…

  349. OH SHIT! McCarver called Russo gritty! He’s on his way now!

  350. dygg says:

    Total man-crush on Kevin Russo!

  351. bexarama says:

    K-Rod? Bring in Mo to hit!!!!

  352. baby carlos says:

    ewww K Rod – almost as big a douche as that reliever from Detroit.

  353. Carlosologist says:

    This game belongs to the Yanks; Manuel’s bringing K-Rod in for a five out save.

  354. YankeeScribe says:

    Gritty atbat

  355. Patrick says:

    Jeter needs to avoid GBDP

  356. Tom Zig says:

    K-rod for the 5 outter? interesting

  357. forensicnucchem says:

    Talk about managing for your job…

  358. Holy shit, look at that gap in LCF. If ever there was a time to pull the ball, Derek, it’s now.

  359. poster says:

    That was a killer split.

  360. Jake H says:

    This game was so frustrating. Swisher can’t catch an easy and so can’t Winn.

  361. poster says:

    Not the worst thing in the world. Not at all. At least down by 2 we have a shot in the ninth.

  362. JobaWockeeZ says:

    I’ll take it but Jetes has to stop hitting groudners.

  363. bexarama says:

    Jeter really tried to GIDP there, heh.

  364. Jake H says:

    Jeter has been my favorite Yankee since he was called up. But this year he has made me scream at him more than his whole career.

  365. Carlosologist says:

    What the hell does K-Rod do after a pitch? Does he fall off the mound or something?

  366. V says:

    Gardner has been utterly awful today. Awful.

  367. Alright, well, at least they’ve got 3-4-5 in the top of the ninth. It’s doable.

  368. Mike HC says:

    Damn. One more there would have been nice

  369. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Can our real offense step up? It’s the Mutts.

  370. baby carlos says:

    Joe needs to pinch hit for Tex in the ninth. The way he is swinging tonight, KRod will make him look foolish.

  371. Mike Axisa says:

    Gardner and Tex are 2 for their last 35.

  372. JM says:

    No hits with the bases loaded with no outs. That REALLY screws you over, but at least they got SOMETHING compared to their other situations this game, other than Cervelli’s lucky hit.

  373. forensicnucchem says:

    I usually hate off days, but the one on Monday seems like it’s coming at a good time. Just seems like some guys are dragging and others need to clear their heads and get a day away from the park.

  374. JohnnyC says:

    And here I’ve always thought speed never goes into a slump.

  375. Mike Axisa says:

    Three more hitless at-bats, and Gardner will be hitting under .300. That didn’t last very long.

  376. baby carlos says:

    in the boxscore where they keep person LOB – yankees have 21.

    11 as a team and are 2-12 with RISP.

    Tex can’t hit but holy fuck, a monster on defense.

  377. Mike Axisa says:

    Haha, thanks Jose.

  378. ZZ says:

    WTH is Reyes thinking?

  379. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Mitre is like our best reliever.

  380. swisher's fauxhawk says:

    What was Reyes thinking? Jesus.

  381. Carlosologist says:

    Lol at Reyes.

  382. bexarama says:

    Reyes… why did you do that? Thanks, though

  383. Was Tex just late on an 89 MPH pitch?

  384. V says:

    Wow. Teixeira couldn’t hit Moyer right now.

  385. Jake H says:

    Tex is killing me. Can’t hit an 89 mph fastball.

  386. FIPster Doofus says:

    Man, that was ugly.

  387. Changeups just kill Tex. Man, what an awful night for him.

  388. V says:

    You know… Teix… do me a favor and never swing the bat again. I’d rather you take a couple extra pitches than do… that.

  389. Mike Axisa says:

    Thanks for coming, Tex.

  390. bexarama says:

    Texy, babe? I love you but you’re killin’ me.

  391. baby carlos says:

    wasn’t even close. ugh

  392. Carlosologist says:

    Who does Tex think he is? David Wright?

    /bad joke’d

  393. ZZ says:

    Tex is almost comically bad this season on outside pitches.

    I am not sure why any pitcher would throw anything inside to him at this point.

  394. JobaWockeeZ says:

    So it looks like 2 of the 3 members of the offense with a pulse will save the day here.

  395. poster says:

    K-Rod is locating too well. They’re not coming back in this one.

  396. DJ says:

    Tex needs to sit down. He is hurting the team at the plate. He’s only valuable in the field right now.

  397. Shit, A-Rod was late on that one, too.

  398. FIPster Doofus says:

    A-Rod is awesome.

  399. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Let’s go clutch.

  400. Carlosologist says:

    Does Cano tie it? I think so.

  401. Haha, wright definitely got some dirt up the nose.

  402. dygg says:

    There we go!

  403. V says:

    So… April Cano… feel free to show up again… please?


  404. It’s up to you now, Swish. Do it, buddy.

  405. JobaWockeeZ says:

    So it’s a lucky Cerv or game.

  406. Alright, keeps the line moving. Come on, Frankie!

  407. BigBlueAL says:

    Swisher’s bicep is healthy.

  408. Carlosologist says:

    Frankie, it’s up to you.

  409. V says:

    Unless Cervelli hits a monster double or better, this game is over. Pitcher spot after Cervelli, and our bench is… Ramiro Pena and Chad Moeller.

  410. Jake H says:

    Man after Swish the lineup sucks.

  411. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Cervelli Smash?

  412. BigBlueAL says:

    Oh man if the pitcher’s spot comes up, who will pinch-hit Pena????

  413. Mike Axisa says:

    Know what sucks? The pitcher’s spot is due up next.

  414. Dela G says:

    maybe they put in CC for the pitcher’s spot?

  415. poster says:

    This game really sucked on all levels.

  416. V says:


    I really need to stop watching this team until they get healthy. This is just depressing.

  417. Blaaaah. Oh well. Do it tomorrow, CC.

  418. baby carlos says:

    well done boys… jason bay and mike pelfrey = schooled the yankees.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      Those two are good players. They’re not exactly Jeff Francoeur and Ollie Perez.

    • bexarama says:

      Bay just murders us. He did it with the Sox, too, at least early on last year during the 0-8 stretch. Yeah, it would have been hilarious to see the Sox give him way too much money for way too many years, but I’m pretty glad we only have to see him six times a year as opposed to eighteen.

  419. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    This game sucked balls.

  420. forensicnucchem says:

    It always feels more frustrating when they get the tying run on base…

    Although it is entertaining that it seems like the Mets feel like they just won the World Series.

  421. Carlosologist says:

    Oh well. Tomorrow, will be the day. CC’s on the mound and they’ll be going up against a shell of the former Johan.

  422. bexarama says:

    I can’t wait for the progression/regression to the mean with RISP.

  423. BigBlueAL says:

    Yankees will score 10 runs on Santana tom night.

  424. bonestock94 says:

    Those injuries were glaring tonight. Oh well, can’t feel too bad with that pitching performance from them.

    • Patrick says:

      let’s stop with the injury excuse-if Jeter-Gardner-Tex do their job– they win.

      • bonestock94 says:

        Gardner did his job, great defense. Offensively he’s probably regressing to what we were expecting. Tex and Jeter are in a slump, probably not as glaring if we had three of our key hitters playing.

      • bonestock94 says:

        Besides, the Mets pitched a great game can’t take that away from them.

  425. bonestock94 says:

    I hope tomorrow’s game goes like last year’s lol. Winning by a double digit margin would feel good.

  426. JM says:

    Anyone have a stat on the Yankees avg. w/RISP for today and for the past week or a way I can find this out?

  427. I think Girardi has to shake the lineup up tomorrow. Move people around. Move Tex down in the order, move Cano or Swisher up. Switch Jeter and Gardner. Do something.

    Also: Kevin Russo is our starting LF until Granderson returns. Winn can’t hit, run and as this game exemplified, play defense

  428. JohnnyC says:

    Girardi sounds pissed in the press conference right now…as he should be.

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