Aug
18
Warren steals the show in action-packed night
ByUpdate: A trio of prospects are Staten Island-bound. Gary Sanchez, Cito Culver and, as expected, the recently-signed Rob Segedin have been promoted to Short Season Staten Island. Segedin blasted his first career home run earlier tonight. With these call-ups, the Staten Island roster just became much more interesting. Their season runs through the first weekend in September; catch ‘em while you can.
I’m away for a little mini-vacation, so you’re getting bullet points until I get back on Monday…
- Triple-A Scranton won. Jesus Montero hit a solo jack and singled while Juan Miranda picked up four knocks and a homer that nearly killed someone. Kevin Russo, Jorge Vazquez, Colin Curtis, and Chad Huffman all doubled. Ivan Nova gave up one run and struck out seven in 6.2 innings of work, continuing his recent hot streak.
- Double-A Trenton won. Justin Christian doubled twice and Austin Romine once, but the story of the night was Adam Warren. Dude struck out … wait for it … 15 (!!!) in seven innings of work. That’s a new franchise record.
- High-A Tampa lost. Bradley Suttle tripled while Manny Banuelos struck out six in six innings. The real story of this game is that ManBan was clocked at 97, and has been sitting at 93-94 recently. Hearing that from two independent sources makes the velocity uptick a lot more believable.
- Low-A Charleston lost. They got two-hit, with DeAngelo Mack and Kyle Higashioka picking up singles. Nothing exciting on the mound.
- Short Season Staten Island won. Shane Brown doubled and walk, Casey Stevenson hit a solo shot, and Luis Parache also picked up a two bagger. Nik Turley struck out six in six innings of one run ball, Tommy Kahnle a pair in an inning.
- Rookie GCL Yanks won. Rob Segedin picked up his first career hit, a solo homerun. Congrats to him. He added a single later in the game. Ramon Flores hit a three run shot, and I’m starting to think I grossly under-rated him in my most recent Top 30. Gary Sanchez took an 0-fer, but there are rumors abound that he’s been promoted to SI. As far as I know, those rumors are unconfirmed, however.
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Buy your tickets now, SI fans. Cito promoted as well.
seriously? that’s fucking badass
I might be more psyched about Cito! It looks like he might be in Charleston next year.
That is awesome. Cito and Sanchez!!!
Culver’s move probably more related to Gumbs signing and need to get them both playing time this year.
It can also be that Culver’s number’s have improved as time has went on. Plus the Yankees have people that know when a player is ready to step up.
Gumbs probably won’t get more than a few games in the GCL. I don’t believe he’s starting yet. Also, Gumbs is more likely to start as a CF, not a SS. They wouldn’t promote someone unless they thought that player was ready.
Gumbs is leading off and playing short today. I doubt he will be moving to cf with the $1.45m Mason Williams signed now.
Ah okay, thanks for the update. I still don’t think they promoted Culver for that sole reason, but I’m sure it played a part, but not necessarily a big part.
@swbyankeesTT Since June 1, Ivan Nova is 10-1 with a 2.19 ERA.
Straight up beast mode’n
living up in Danbury, CT, difficult to get to SI, but have tickets for road games on 8/31 and 9/2 when Yanks visit Hudson Valley Renegades,Can’t wait to get a look at Sanchez and Cito.
I already bought SI tickets for Thursday. Third row behind the plate. I’ll be so close to Maquinito I can smell him.
JIMP! And I’m sure I’m not the only one who did that after today’s DotF.
<3
Assuming Sanchez and Culver continue to rake in SI, will they both start next season in Charleston?
I would assume they start there next year no matter what they do in SI.
That’s probably doubtful. Not many prospects spend less than a month at a level before moving up.
(insert-Casey-Kelly-jumped-three-levels-in-two-days-joke)
Both Heathcott and Murphy started in Charleston this year, and they only played 3 and 9 games in the GCL last year. Maybe they’ll spend some extra time in extended spring training, but I wouldn’t expect to see Culver or Sanchez in SI next year.
You forget that Murphy and Heathcott were considered much more polished, so it’s different.
I’m not saying that Cito and Sanchez won’t start in Charleston, but it’s not guaranteed. Sanchez will probably start in Charleston, Cito is more of question mark to start there.
However, with extended spring training, Cito definitely has a shot at playing in Low-A next season. We shall see what happens.
Yeah, but Carlosologist didn’t ask if Cito and Sanchez would make it to Charleston, he asked if they’d START in Charleston. I doubt they’d open the season there, the org will hold them back a while to limit their exposure and stave off the fatigue of doing an entire full-season league at 18.
That’s another reason.
My idea of starting at a level is whether they play anywhere else first. I wouldn’t expect that. As I said, they may not be in Charleston on day 1, but I would be surprised if the first game they play is anywhere other than Charleston.
I think there’s a shot that Sanchez plays the full season at Charleston … IF … he’s in a platoon situation with another catcher. That other catcher could very well be JR Murphy. Murphy’s putting together a solid debut season, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the kid back in Charleston for a half-season.
A Platoon of Sanchez and Murphy would keep BOTH fresh.
Maybe, but Murphy has played really well for a young catcher. Something tells me he’s going to be in Tampa at the start of next season. I could be wrong though.
If they’re really worried about keeping Sanchez fresh, they can make him split time with a lesser prospect or something of that sort. I wouldn’t hold Sanchez back just because of the amount of games.
Tremendous depth.
Deep and thick?
um, I don’t know what you’re looking at, but I’m not exactly seeing oodles of MLB-ready, all-star caliber players here.
I know what depth is, I don’t need to have it explained to me like I’m a child.
How many of their pitching prospects have a realistic shot at making their rotation?
Not sure if serious.
How many systems have that? I see a lot of lower and mid-level guys who have a good chance to make solid MLB contributions in their careers. Don’t take that for granted.
Look, I never said that I don’t think they have good, solid pitching depth. I’m just trying to be realistic, and I feel like “tremendous depth” was an overstatement. Certainly an overstatement in that it implied that the Yankees are so loaded with pitching talent that they don’t need to consider adding more (Loux). I’m not saying they should run out and sign Loux at any price, just that they should look into it. See what his market price is and what their medical staff feels about his arm. Having some promising arms in their system shouldn’t influence their decision, though I agree that there will most likely be some other team more willing to pay more for a guy who projects to be an average-ish starter.
The “regulars” jumping on everyone who criticizes the Yankee organization in any way and calling them Red Sox supporters is the most annoying part of this site. It’s really a turn off to other Yankees fans who want to discuss the team in a rational way.
Eh, I’ve had a few complaints about how you criticize others, so I’d appreciate you not playing the victim here.
I apologize for that. Not trying to play the victim, just making an observation. Everyone who criticizes anything about the Yankees organization gets compared to Peter Gammons by the same 5-10 people over and over again.
I do really like the site that you guys run and appreciate your work. I just feel that the comments section is hostile towards outside opinions.
The fact that people are trying to make is:
What farm system has plenty of All-Star calibur players waiting in the Minor leagues? I don’t think any farm system has that. It’s unrealistic to believe so.
People criticize when their comments are taken out of proportion. And you exaggerated what people meant.
NO ONE is saying that the Yankees have a lot of top 100 prospects. Rarely any farm systems have that.
The Yankees do, however, have plenty of pitching depth in the minor leagues. Guys that can be 4-5 starters and guys that can be 1-3 starters. Phelps, Ramirez, Nova, McAllister, Warren, Stoneburner, B. Mitchell, Noesi, Banuelos, Brackman, Betances(probably missed some.) Not many farm systems can say they have that. And NO, that doesn’t mean they are MLB ready, because many of them aren’t. No team has many great options that are MLB ready.
It’s not about having a lot of talent that could contribute to the Yankees right now(they have to be borderline All-stars at least) but it is about having talent that is capable of contributing to the major league level in the future to some extent. Whether that’s with another team or in some role with the Yankees, there is a lot of talent in the system.
Plus people here are YANKEE FANS, they are going to be supportive of their team. OF COURSE, we are going to back fire when negative/stupid comments are written.
There are many people on RAB that are plenty baseball smart. Everyone isn’t a bunch of ridiculous homers, but you can believe what you want.
Angelo,
I took “tremendous” to be an exaggeration. I honestly don’t have my own ranking of all MLB team’s farm system pitching depth, so I can’t say for certain. However, off-hand I don’t think the Yankees’ minor league pitching depth is much above average if it’s above the average at all. Most organizations have young arms they’re high on.
I agree that there are a lot of intelligent fans here. However, I think the most “homerism” goes on with respect to prospects. This makes sense since it’s the most subjective aspect of MLB, but I still think calling their pitching depth “tremendous” is an exaggeration. They don’t have a single pitching prospect I would consider a strong candidate to someday make their rotation. Sure there is some promise, but realistically comparing their organization to all others I don’t think there are many impact arms.
Brackman–24 years old and doing OK at AA–and Banuelos–155 lbs–are the Yankees top pitching prospects according to this site.
Anyway, I can’t say any better than anyone else how these young players will turn out. I just don’t think given the info we have today that the Yankees can just rest on their laurels with their pitching prospects. I think they should explore any opportunity to add pitching talent. Not go all-in on every opportunity, just consider it and not sit around and say “forget it, we have tremendous pitching depth.” I really didn’t mean to discuss this issue to this extent and we’ll just have to sit back and see how these prospects all develop.
I have never said anything about having tons of future All-Stars in the minors. Other people have brought that up in making a straw-man of my points. I have said that I think “tremendous” was an exaggeration, especially in the context of saying that the Yankees have so much minor league pitching talent that they should just forget about considering a 1st round pick released from his commitment to another team. I also didn’t say they should sign Loux, just that they should look at him. My comments about the Gammons/Red Sox stuff were fairly unnecessary, but just a general reaction that made sense to bring up in this context. Not a reaction specifically to this discussion.
“Ramon Flores hit a three run shot, and I’m starting to think I grossly under-rated him in my most recent Top 30. ”
Have I not been tweeting incessantly about Flores? (and Sanchez, and Montero, and I may have a problem…)
Dude’s numbers are probably a lot better than what people think they are. He’s OPSing over .900 with an insane BB% for an international guy his age.
yeah, the walk rate is pretty studly. He’s probably going to end up pretty high on my top 30.
It’s all about the BB%. I would stick him in the middle 15-20 somewhere. He’s a great prospect, it’s just really hard to rank him over guys like Murphy, Ramirez, Stoneburner, Laird, Adams, Joseph, Nova, Betances, and a lot of the other guys in full season ball with good potential.
That’s what happens when the farm system is strong.
Tremendous depth.
I like the bullet points tonight. Short and sweet.
TWSS
Are you talking about Pitino’s hook-up?
The real story of this game is that ManBan was clocked at 97, and has been sitting at 93-94 recently.
This. If he can somehow maintain the velocity, his prospect status and probability to reach the bigs will skyrocket.
mark my words, this kid will be good
mark my words, this kid will be
goodgreatManny might be a lefty oswalt 93-95. similar build.
Oswalt’s got 2 inches and 35 pounds on him. “Similar” might be pushing it.
How does ManBan’s build compare to Sonny Gray. I know Sonny is tiny too.
Vanderbilt says Gray’s 5’11″, 195… so he’s probably 5’10″, 180.
ManBan’s listed at 5’10″, 155 on FG, B-R, Baseball Cube, the team site… everywhere. I’ll trust the consensus on accuracy.
There is no way that ManBan is 155lbs. He’s at least 185.
When people see me they tell me I look like I’m about 6’1″, 180 or so.
I weigh 138 pounds.
He’s pudgy. No way he’s 155.
Flickr me, baby.
(TWSS)
I’m not even sure if you can see this, if you can he’s #31
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hp.....5795_n.jpg
Can you please swing by Tampa and get some accurate measurements on him? The Internet needs to know!
Seriously! Somebody definitely needs to do this!!!!
I’ll take Andy’s word on it. Plus, he’s just 19, he probably would weigh more than 155lbs in 2 years anyway.
138 pounds? I eat meals heavier than you.
/Asshole’d
I am a skinny jerk. There is no denying that.
I’m skinny too. We’re about the same weight, and I’m 5’11″.
They’re about the same height, but Gray’s about 40 pounds heavier.
Banuelos is also just 19. If the measurements are a year out of date it’s possible that he’s grown since then. Even if they’re up to date, I can see him putting on some muscle as he grows up (not the height though…).
He can, that’s true, but guys that thin and wiry tend to have a hard time actually putting on weight (speaking from personal experience).
He’s Mexican.
/rascist’d
I was thinking he’s built more like Mike Hampton.
Put me down for “Yes” in the RAB pool of “Will Ivan Nova replace Dustin Moseley for the final spot start before Andy Pettitte returns from the DL this September?”
Put me down also.
Just facebook’d to that very same effect.
I have to wonder that if Manny B’s velocity is for real if that puts him as the best pitching prospect in our system
It does. He already was arguably one of the best, if not the best pitching prospect as it was.
Wait, so did Sanchez get promoted or not? Why is that part crossed out?
He did. Mike crossed it out because he was unsure at the time, but it was later confirmed that Sanchez and Culver were moving up.
The part is crossed out because it refers to unconfirmed rumors. They’ve been confirmed and are no longer rumors, they’re facts now.
Oh, update at the top, duh.
Look at the top.
http://twitter.com/RPimpsner/statuses/21541522622
Yeah, DFA me.
/Gaudin’d
It’s all good. We’ve won back to back games, everybody’s happy now. You’re off the hook.
Curtis struck out with the bases loaded to a lefty and nobody said a peep. It was amazing.
Crossed out because it’s been confirmed.
I can’t wait to read Frankie Piliere’s full scouting report on Banuelos. He sounded like he was really impressed tonight.
http://twitter.com/FrankiePili.....1528986270
If Ramon Flores wasn’t on a team with El Maquinto more people would talk about him I’m sure.
Well, now he’s got the GCL all to himself. He’s cock of the walk.
/Isaid”cock”‘d
You would do that to your brother?
Your AD reference has not gone unnoticed.
“I said COT”
It’s like Posada’s 2007 season being obscured by A-Rod.
It’s like A-Rod’s 2007 being obscured by Detroit smog!
Obviously, the team is just facing bad pitching.
So much for Manny not improving much with his velocity. The body workds miracles as you hit your 20′s.
Does anyone get a closer feel for him as his future progress’?
Maybe in a Billy Wagner mold?
I could see that. I hope he gets a real chance at the rotation first, though, he’s got good secondary pitches.
Isn’t his changeup dirty?
/drunken Johanesk dreams
I’m pretty sure he has a plus curve and an average, but developing change.
It would be great if we got Wagner type production from ManBan.
MAN-BAN FOR THE 8HT!l!/ ?
Meh, Adam Warren dominates like its nobody’s busines, Montero hits a shot, Miranda almost caused a car accident, Nova beasting, ManBan tops out at 97, just the usual. I would just say move along, nothing to see here except Gary Sanchez and Cito Culver were promothed. Thats the big news.
Warren, Montero, Miranda, Nova and ManBan straght up beast mode. Lovin’ it.
Depth: tremendous.
Segedin also goes to SI.
http://twitter.com/RPimpsner/statuses/21543792004
It just keeps gettin’ better, baby.
And just like that, SI goes from unexciting to STACKED. In a span of one day.
Like I said, I already bought my tickets
There can’t be more than 20 games left in the SI season, but that’s not counting playoffs.
But is SI even going to qualify for playoffs?
Nope, no chance, they’re 10 games back in the division with 3 teams to pass.
What if they go 20-0? You forget that they just got Culver, Sanchez, and Segedin.
It’s okay, I forgive you for not considering this, this time.
I underestimated them, forgive me.
they are only 5 back in the wild card.
Meh, I didn’t mention it because there’s like 10 teams they have to pass.
The truth!
Best DotF ever!!
monday sheds a tear
Just one more bump in the road for Jeff Wilpon, lol.
I wonder if Culver and Sanchez are going to be able to drop by Yankees Stadium to talk to the ML team. Probably not as the SI schedule looks packed with games . Would be cool to see DJ and Cito chat it up during BP.
i was at the Trenton game tonight, and let me say, domination isnt even the word for what Warren did tonight.
Any idea on Montero’s HR if it snuck out down the RF line and hit the pole or higher up? Either way the oppo power is no joke, but if it was a Pesky Pole type HR it’s a little different than a straight up Jesus Montero beast HR the other way.
I can’t wait to see Montero blasting balls into the RF bleachers with an effortless swing like Miguel Cabrera did earlier tonight.
That’s what he’ll do. Tremendous power to right center at age 20 with years ahead to get more powerful.
Platooning Murphy and Gary Sanchez from the get-go of the Charleston season would keep both guys fresh. A platoon catcher situation is the only way I see Gary Sanchez play a full-season at Charleston.
Not for nothing, but Montero went straight from the GCL to Charleston, and got a MiL high 525 AB’s as a 2nd year 18 year old.
If by platoon, you mean at C/DH, then yes, platoon. I wonder if Higashioka goes up to High A. He’s too good of a prospect to not get regular playing time.
SI just has 18 games left btw, but the GCL schedule ends on the 28th, so they’re just getting a little ahead of the game getting Sanchez and Culver a few extra games.
Jeter, btw, got a 11 game cup of coffee in the then Sally League affiliate Greensboro in his rookie, 17 yo season.
This after hitting .202/.296/.312./608 in 173 games in the GCL.
This after hitting .202/.296/.312./608 in 173
gamesABs in the GCL./Friendlyhelpout’d
This means Culver is going to be better than Jeter, right?!?!!?!!!!!
173 ABs (199 PAs) over 47 games, not 173 games. He also made 12 errors.
He made 9 more errors in his 11 games in the Sally League, en route to 56 errors the next year.
All told, he made 65 errors in 137 defensive games in the Sally League
No one is talking about Adam Warren?
ZOMG 15 STRIKEOUTS!
It got lost among the Culver/Sanchez/Segedin promotions and Banuelos’ newly found velocity.
That’s what happens when ManBan touches 97mph, and Culver, Segedin, and Sanchez get called up.
15 strikeout performances get overlooked. Although 15 strikeouts is insane!!
the stadium gave him a standing ovation when he walked off the mound after his last inning
I’m Speechless
Very excited for ManBan.
Manny B pumping 93-94, reaching 97? I think the best comp would be Scott Kazmir back in the day, but with better control. And remember, Kazmir led the league in K’s back in the day.
Yes, we know. I wouldn’t give ManBan that comparison just yet. Gotta see if the velocity holds up consistently. If it does, ManBan becomes a different animal.
Small version of CC?
Small version? CC’s shitted bigger things than Banuelos.
ietcvm
I’m late but today was goddamn awesome. That’s all I gotta say.
Given its reasonable to assume I know a ML season is 162 games and that Short Season Rookie Leagues is named appropriately, I think one can also assume it was a typo…
Every time I see Miranda dominating Triple A, I can’t help thinking that he could be a really quality major league hitter given playing time….too bad he’ll never get a real chance with us.
banuelos 93-94 touching 97 with plus offspeed stuff at 5″11 hmmmm, id say santana like. it took santana until he was 23-24 to get a shot after rule 5. this kid is gonna be something special.
Lets not jump the gun just yet. He needs to consistently show that he can have that velocity. Plus, Santana is a bigger guy than ManBan. Just don’t assume he’s going to become Santana.
I do have high hopes for him, but that’s a very strong comparison.