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The Yanks just got outplayed. What can you do? They have more talent, but it didn’t show up at the right time.
I’m not sure about the talent part. The Rangers have better pitching and a comparable lineup.
Tex was banged up, Jeter and Jorge are getting old, and the rest of the team (exc Andy, Robbie and Mo) just played horribly. That’s a lot to overcome.
Texas is very talented (part of the reason I preferred the Rays). But if Hughes pitched the way he did down the stretch, and if they win the AJ game its a much different series.
The Rangers have talent, but I honestly think the Yanks have more. Texas is really well-rounded too.
And consider they have two top 10-ish pitching prospects in their bullpen and didn’t carry Rich Harden into the postseason. This was a good team. Its not like 2006/2007 where shittier teams took us out and I don’t hate them like hate Boston or Anaheim. They won. Good for them. Lets just hope they beat Philadelphia if it comes to that.
Trenton could have given a better performance than this team. 0, 1, 2, and 3 runs in the games they lost is an embarrasement, 2 and 3 hits in a game is a joke.
This result is just what has been going all year when they face decent pitching which is PATHETIC hitting.
Brett “I can’t hit the ball out of the infield” Gardner and Marcus “I can only hit a fastball” Thames are not scaring any pitcher.
The better team won. Congrats to the Rangers
+27
Well finally Alex Rodriguez does not owe anything to the rangers anymore. He played terrible against his old team. Please look carefully at his performance and you will notice that he did not hustle.
-27
That might be the greatest recap ever. No need to elaborate.
Pretty much…Nothing left to do but wait till the off-season.
It’s as simple as that. The Yankees were simply outplayed this series. The Yankees will come back next year and will be the best team in baseball.
In all fairness, Texas were the better team. Congrats to them
Finally. Given they we were outplayed this entire series, losing doesn’t feel as bad.
This has been my first playoff loss and it doesn’t even hurt. I mean that strikeout was nice and anticlimatic. No baserunners = no getting my hopes up. Quick like a bandaid folks! You move on and pray to God it’s not a Texas Philly WS.
Good season (until September, cause that sucks bawls lol).
Go giants!
Your first playoff loss?
I laughed.
I started watching last year. lol
Shit boys this was painless compared to 2004. You could see this one coming from a mile away since September.
You could see them sweeping the first round then losing in 6 in the ALCS? Nice foresight.
You’re so smart.
Im not rooting for the Rangers, definately not the Phillies, I have to agree and go with the Giants!!!!
Well, I’m really hoping I get to wear my Yankee jersey to San Fran to watch the Giants clinch the WS.
Me too!
I’m so sad.
Go Giants.
Aww, don’t be sad. Count your blessings, you could have been born a Mets fan like my Mom.
That’s just a terrible fate, to be born a Mets fan. At least you get used to loss.
Ironically, Francouer (sp?) is going to the WS.
“Used to loss” is a bit of an understatement. I liken it more to being a funeral director.
I think they have a twelve-step program for that.
Oh well. The Yankees not named Robinson Cano and Curtis Granderson didn’t show up, and the Rangers played great baseball. Congrats to them, they deserve it.
Countdown to Cliff Lee…
Cliff Lee and CC on the same team will be the shit, especially when Hughes matures and we get Montero on the team.
’11 will be a sick team.
Cliff Lee and CC were already on the same team
Now both will be in their prime, with a good offense.
Cliff Lee and CC were already on the same team
False. I refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the Cleveland Indians, they’re from Ohio.
/Rose’d
Furthermore, any President who threw out a first pitch at their game is also false (for recognizing Ohio as a state) and thus a liberal, since everybody (well, with a brain anyway…) knows liberals are all false and liars.
//Rose’d
Ohio is a mythical place like Atlantis or Los Angeles.
Cliff Lee and Montero battery mates FTW!
What can you do. The superior team in this series deserved to go to the World Series, and that was clearly Texas…
Go N.L.
http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
Hahahahahahah! That cracked me up.
LMAO
Lets go Giants. We still have a NY team in the fray
Time to put on my A’mare Stoudemire shirt.
cosigned
playoffs or bust
Funny how with the Knicks I will be beyond thrilled if they finish under .500 but sneak into the playoffs. But with the Yankees right now I am super pissed at them and look at how good a season they had.
Funny. I’ll be scalping into Rangers @ Bruins tomorrow. Has been in the plans for a while but a potential Game 7 tabled it.
Thanks for the memories, both to the 2010 Yankees and fellow loyal readers of RAB. You made it a great one. Here’s hoping 2011 brings number 28.
After seeing the look on Feliz’s face after that strikeout, that was adorable.
But seriously Darling, playing up the poetry angle on A-Rod’s last at-bat?
Best of luck to the Rangers. They deserve this win – and I will be rooting for them to defeat the Giants or the Phillies. The Yanks had a great season but obviously ran out of gas in the ALCS. There will be plenty of opportunity for post mortem analysis this winter.
Fact: Yanks got outplayed. Move on, not a big deal, it happens. At least they weren’t knowck out in the ALDS and made it to a game 6.
Yeah, you can say this series was pathetic, unlucky, embarassing, etc. But it happens.
To be honest, I given the way the Yanks played this series, they clearly didn’t earn it. I just feel bad for Cano. Guy goes into 2010 April beast mode and won’t even get rewarded for it because the rest of his team went cold.
Go Giants? And are your ready for the coming Lee/Montero battery? I sure as hell am.
Go Giants indeed!
I dont think I even want Lee. All we will be reading is crap about the Yankees buying another championship.
Buying championships is awesome. If other teams could do it, they would.
They’re just jealous.
Thanks for putting it into perspective, fuck it lets go all out and sign Cliff Lee!!!!
Wish the Knicks could buy a championship too though. lol
Layden and Thomas tried, damnit, they tried.
Sad part is you are right they did try. Doesnt speak well of their GM skills. lol
The Yanks used to way overpay for declining ‘stars,’ draft poorly, and trade away talent for bloated contracts, and put together ‘teams’ with poor chemistry too. If anyone thinks they could have done a better job than the ’80s Yanks and the current Knicks front office, they are probably right.
“Crap about the Yankees buying another championship” makes me smile.
Time to catch up on CSI Miami reruns
Congratulations go out to the Texas Rangers, but I still hate the antler-claw thing.
Let’s go Giants!
(Here’s to getting some real schoolwork done until Opening Day 2011. Although I’ll probably have advanced senioritis by then, anyway.)
So the Yanks technically won nothing this year, not even the division. A 200 million dollar embarrassment.
They won our hearts and minds.
NO, THEY EMBARRASSED US!!!! I CAN NEVER SHOW MY FACE IN PUBLIC AGAIN!!!!1
you’re terrible at this trolling thing.
Why are you attacking me?
Because you’re terrible at this trolling thing.
Was it not spelled out plainly enough?
I laughed.
Don’t feed him.
They technically won a total of 100 games this season and ended 2 wins short of the World Series. You technically are wrong.
Technically a $207 million dollar payroll, so you know, get your shit straight…
According to Cots, when you include the money for the mid-season pickups, it was actually closer to $213M.
You’re probably right. The original poster is still wro-ong.
gotta admit.. that SubZero picture lightened my mood a lot.. LOL.. i gotta nice laugh out of that to help ease the pain
Gentlemen, it’s been an honor playing with you tonight.
See ya next season, gents.
Yeah after seeing this team get five games away from winning it all with half the players having a down year, you gotta be excited as shit for next year. 2011 Yankees will probably tear shit up.
Good point. Jeter, Tex, A-Rod, and AJ all had down years. Also amazing that 2/5 of our rotation seemingly lost the ability to pitch in the last 2 months of the season.
Jeter will be older, Arod will be older, AJ has always been and always will be a head case. It’s hilarious that you call those ‘down’ years instead of the declining years. If you think this was a down year, wait until you see arod and jeter 4 years from now.
Spoiler: Everyone will be older.
…and the Yanks have $20-$40 million a year for the next 3-4 years coming off payroll to cushion the decline by bringing in top players in their primes.
I’m not particularly worried long-term, considering the above and the pitching and catching on the way up.
Disappointed, but not NEARLY as much as I would have been last year. Last year I would have been borderline crushed since we were very clearly the best team and hadn’t won a WS since 2000.
This year it’s just kind of annoying. Ah well.
I agree.
As I said in the thread, this was not surprising. They got outplayed, we all know that, therefore it isn’t an upset at all.
But to lose in an even matched series (on paper in terms of records and stuff) than for a 115 win team to lose to an 89 win team for example.
i feel the exact same way… EXACT same way.. and i think most rational Yankee fans are in total accord with this sentiment right now
My evenings are now frighteningly free.
Not the best ending at all, but I had a really good time watching this team and hanging out here. We’ll be back.
You and Andy have a nice off season
You know, that’s the thing. We know the Yanks will always be back in the fray at the end of the year. Other teams don’t have that luxury.
even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
There’s a reason why we are perennial favorites.
Yes, payroll.
Payroll + a smart GM = Yankees
Payroll + Omar = Mets
Payroll + lolerskates = Red Sox
Payroll – Payroll + fraud = Marlins
Payroll + most obnoxious fans conceivable = Phillies.
I’m ready To ring in the Lee-Montero era.
I’m kind of worried about will happen when Cliff Lee and Jesus Montero form a battery in an actual game. The universe might explode.
about *what* will happen
Cliff to Jesus, then he hands the ball off to Mo in the 9th.
The Holy Trinity.
/JMP’d
My bags are packed….
Think this loss sucks?
You should’ve seen ’95.
or ’97.
’01 was god-awful… maybe the worst.
’02 felt very similar to this year.
’03 wasn’t bad because the ALCS was the real WS that year anyway.
’04…
’05 not too bad because they were lucky to even make the playoffs.
’06 hurt.
’07 was tough, but they really didn’t have a well-rounded team.
Nothing will ever beat 2001. ’04 was more a helpless feeling as the momentum changed like a tsunami…2001 was euphoria followed by shock and crushing disappointment. And a bit of nausea
I still get nauseous thinking about it. They were going up against a more talented team in ’04, so you can rationalize it. ’01 was just downright painful.
2001 was brutal but I’m not sure I’d trade the thrill of Games 4 and 5 for a boring series win. Which I recognize is stupid, but the Martinez and Brosius game saving HRs plus the O’Neill chant … can’t duplicate any of that. Probably 3 of my top 10 baseball memories within a ~24 hour span. A win would have obviously been better but those games were just amazing and the loss didn’t diminish that.
Gotta disagree. 04′ was the worst. Just…a 3-0 lead to the Red Sox? Really?
There was so much emotion in ’01. The great comebacks in NY. 9/11. Beating a 116 win Seattle team in the LCS. That was a kick to nuts. ’04 just left me in a state of confusion. My stomach was in knots that whole week-plus… but I knew the Sox were better.
Yeah, but a lead in the 8th and ninth innings? Game 4 especially was a crusher, but games 4 AND five sucked.
My stomach is starting to get queezy… please stop. Both series blew.
For some reason 2001 didn’t hurt that bad. I was in shock when Mariano threw it away, and Womack (of all people) doubled, and I realized they could lose, but actually, they had more or less been beaten up for 7 games (kinda like this series, only without this game 5), and through a series of Byun Hyung Kims, managed to keep the issue in doubt for 6 52/54ths games.
When that one was over, I was stunned for about 5 seconds, and I said to my dad, “You know what? The better team won. It was almost the revenge of 1960, but the better team won.”
Still feel about it that way. The one I’ll never get was 2006. The Yanks were a lot better than the Tigers in everything but team defense. And maybe setup relief.
Yeah, this doesn’t even compare to other losses, no way. It sucks, but it’s easier to move on.
There’s a slight error in your list. No baseball was played in the year 2004. I’m sure of it.
I think I am in agreement about 2004. Not one inning.
I loved reading this string…!
I know people kid about this kind of stuff, but I went to Game 2 of that year’s ALCS, and I remember feeling sorry for that Red Sox fan that we talked to in the bleacher seats.
I remember no baseball being played after that. Literally nothing. Maybe I remember having a passing though ‘that’s okay, the Cardinals will destroy them’, but no baseball.
Sometimes I love my subconscious for protecting me.
As shitty as this feels (happy 31st bday to me…), that pic made me laugh
Oh well. Play subpar-to-awful baseball for 4.9 out of 6 games, you lose. Not much analysis necessary there.
R.I.P. 2010 Yankees, it’s been an experience.
So which elite pitcher do you root for to get a ring, Lincecum, Halladay, or Lee?
Lincecum.
Anyone but Lee…Leave him hungry for the brass ring and he may sign with the Yankees…not so sure if he wins in TX.
Oh for crying out loud.
Our fortunes are now dependent on signing another 30-year old pitcher?
It’s Kevin Brown and Randy Johnson all over again.
He’ll show up here and is back will go out.
But since it’s only money, and not Montero, I’ll live with the stupidity of signing another pitcher whose decline we will finance on his back-end years.
happy birthday.
Lincecum.
Should be a fun offseason at least.
not so sure Lee will sign with the Yankees now…Cashman should of pulled the trigger and included Cruz when Seattle asked for him…Yankees would be in WS and would have Lee in rotation next year…I think Lee resigns with TX now.
1. Who’s Cruz?
2. There’s no guarantee Jack Z would have taken the package over Smoak
3. Lee will follow the money, like every other athlete- besides guys who give hometown discounts
sorry…Nunez…Seattle asked for him on top of the package that was agreed to after TX upped the ante…Cash said no so Lee went to the Rangers
And Jack would have went back to Texas and have them up the offer if Cash included Nunez.
Maybe…I hope you are right. Just remember TX has new owners who have said they will pay a kings ransom to keep Lee. There is no state income tax and it is close to his home…all factors in this…I still hope Lee to Yankees happens bu I just don’t think it is the Slam-Dunk it was a few weeks ago…I really hope I’m wrong
There is no state income tax
This issue is way overblown. At half of 20M a year, state tax rates (in the 8% range) is maybe a million per year, at the most.
It’s nothing big that the Yankees couldn’t easily overcome.
if lee comes to NY he will earn 200 mil in contract and endorsements. Texas won;t come close to that even with the tax thing
Cruz?
Texas’ payroll this year is about $54m, do you really think they will pay one guy 20-25?
64.8M, actually.
And they have a new ownership group now.
And that ownership group had to pay quite a bit more than initially planned for to buy the team (thank you Mark Cuban).
I would rather have Montero terrorizing AL pitching for the next 15 years than a ring from 2010.
I was going to reply negatively to this comment, but think: would you rather have Don Mattingly’s career, or a championship sometime in the 80s?
The only annoying part about this is that it’s Texas, and nothing good comes from Texas.
Only steers and queers.
/GunnerySergeantHartman’d
Nicely done.
They do have some fine sweet women there………..
LETS GO FRISCOOOO!!!!!!
Cannot bear the thought of either Philly or Texas winning the WS.
Is Lee a guarantee anymore? If the Rangers win the World Series, why wouldn’t he stay in a town that has new owners, a winning team, and a bright future?
I don’t want to think about that scenario, but I’m playing devil’s advocate. I think I am rooting for the Giants so Lee has less of an incentive to stay in Texas.
“If the Rangers win the World Series, why wouldn’t he stay in a town that has new owners, a winning team, and a bright future?”
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
The Rangers already experienced what its like to pay 1 player a third of the overall payroll. Ultimately led to bankruptcy and non-competitiveness.
Yankees also have a winning team, a bright future, and a shitload more money
Number of times the Yankees have been financially outbid for someone they wanted:
Never
Matsuzaka?
That was kind of a blind bidding and the Red Sox put in some ridiculous number.
true
That was a blind-bid
I understand the money argument, but I tend to believe that not every player makes every decision based on the money.
Would Lee pass up on all the money the Yankees will throw at him? I don’t know, but it is possible if he thinks he can get it done in Texas and really enjoys it there.
If he wasn’t interested in making as much as possible, he wouldn’t have been so adamant about hitting free agency these last two years.
Besides, if he signs with Texas, then he’d have to live most of the year in Texas. Who would want to do that?
Lol, all of a sudden we don’t have a winning team?
Didn’t you hear? The Yankees are now officially a national embarrassment. They’re on par with Snooki, the city of Cleveland, the American automotive industry, Ashton Kutcher, the MBTA, and Glenn Beck.
Here’s to signing Lee next year. and to actually getting a consistent offense.
go SF Giants. thank you to the regulars on this board for keeping me entertained all season. thank you to Axisa, Kabak and Pawlikowski for the great site. i’ll look forward to hearing your views in the off season and next year.
This loss represents the start of a dynasty similar to late 90s.
96 win
97 lose
98-2000 win
2009 win
2010 lose
2011-?
See a pattern?!
very niiice
Don’t think that thought hasn’t crossed my mind.
You stole this from me lol.
Not that it’s a big deal because I’ve thought of this “pattern” before, as well as many other people I’m sure but…
That was straight robbery. Not only did she fleece you blind but gave you no mention as well. Maybe the thief will return your stolen property but since it was burglary at its finest I wouldn’t count on it. She’s a quick one. Swiped it in a blink of an eye.
Actually, Carlos stole it from me. Check the second game thread.
/friendly who cares’d
Wouldn’t there be a pattern anytime the Yankees haven’t won in a few years if that were the case?
I know you’re probably joking…
Actually, think about it. When was the last time the Yankees had a championship year that was isolated by two or more non-championship years in either direction?
Answer: 1923, and 1932. The only times it ever happened to them.
That strike-shortened 2007 season really sucked. Thought the Yankees were going all the way that year.
This was one hell of a season by the Yankees. We have all the pieces in place to make another title run next year. We have a good core in Cano, Swisher, Gardner, Granderson, and hopefully Montero.
WOW ,ARod and Tex not in the “Core” ? 240 RBI
Look for a better stat than “RBI’s” and I’ll agree with you.
RBI is THE stat
RBI means little to nothing when speaking of talent.
scratch Gardner, insert Tex and Arod…Up in the air on Swisher probably would move him if right offer came along…ditto Gardner…guys who can’t come up big in October are always dispensable in my book…Swisher gets so tight I swear he is squeezing sawdust….Gardner can’t get the ball out of the infield
….when he has the courage to swing
“guys who can’t come up big in October are always dispensable in my book…”
Considering how the team played this month, wouldn’t that mean getting rid of everyone but Cano, and Granderson? I mean Tex didn’t do much in the post (last year or this year), Arod did nothing, neither did posada, or jeter.
if our team played like we know they can they’d have been going to the world series. The bats did nothing this post.
This was my first season at RAB and I enjoyed the hell out it. Thanks to the guys running the site and the regulars for making it fun.
Also, the Yanks had a good season. The hardest thing in sports is defending your title, and they couldn’t quite do it. Here’s to a productive offseason.
You’re a welcome addition, pal.
Coming from you, tsjc, it means a lot. Thanks. ‘Twas a great time talking to you and the other regulars this season.
Clever handle = intelligent commentary. It’s science.
And yet, I had such high hopes for Poopy Pants.
For shame.
Lulz
there is always next year….if Tex can bounce back so can Poopy…
hahaha. Thanks, Jon.
Agreed. Also your screenname is awesome.
Thanks, bex. You’re another of the greats around here. Keep it up.
This was my first season at RAB and I enjoyed the hell out it. Thanks to the guys running the site and the regulars for making it fun.
i second that.
Welcome to you too.
Can I get a welcome ?
/setting self up for abuse
HELLS NO
/random’d
Dammit, Tonight does suck
Olson Johnson: All right… we’ll give some land to FIPster Doofus and candyforstalin. BUT WE DON’T WANT SLAPPY WHITE!!!
[everyone complains]
Olson Johnson: Aw, prairie shit… Everybody!
[everyone rejoices]
Thank You
thank you.
I’ve been here for two years about, first year posting. It was definitely fun.
I agree with all of this. We should have an RAB Rookie Commenter of the Year Award. Maybe we can get a shitton of quantitative analysis on every new person who became a regular.
Head explodes at thought.
If Quit% is a stat, I’m all in for seeing this happen.
OMG. Jon Daniels is fucking YOUNG.
Didnt answer the question though.
eh, he had a few big hits this series but I agree that’s overreacting on Daniels’ part.
There’s no problem in lose, the problem is the way you lose.
The team didn’t show any life during this series.
/falsenarrative’d
Subjective.
2011 is our year, then. New lineup for starters, eh?
Gardner (3rd in league in OBP), Swish, Cano, ARod, Tex, Granderson, Jeter, then the Posada/catcher/DH mix.
crx: Gardner 8th in league in OBP, 1st on Yankees.
Watching people who are great at what they do do those things well is a source of joy for me, so there have been a lot of joyous moments this season watching the team I love. (And a lot of LOLs.)
And reading smart posts by Ben, Joe and Mike and smart comments by posters has added a lot to my enjoyment of the season, so thank you RABbis. RABites?
Having said that, let me now admit that since Texas beat us, what I wish for now is that Texas will lose the World Series. Because I will ENJOY seeing the tears run down their WATB faces.
OK, I feel better now.
I’m disappointed but not devastated.
Go Giants
#fuckyea
What an anticlimactic introduction to the ALCS MVP.
“Josh Hamilton just happened to get the lucky straw.”
Damn, Jackie.
Only 160 days until Opening Day.
+1
It’s going to be a long winter. (sigh)
Signing the guy who basically stole a game from us will make it an enjoyable winter.
Congrats to the Rangers and of course, Josh Hamilton. He has a great story and is an amazing baseball player. That being said, GO GIANTS.
Naturally, this shit had to happen during the Jets bye week, so I won’t even get a fun victory to lighten my mood for a full 9 days.
Bah.
NBA season just around the corner…and all the excitement of trying to snag the 8th seed in the East!
Okay, that works a little.
In all seriousness, the thought of actually being able to see Amare play on a regular basis has me excited about a Knicks season for the first time in ages.
Watching him in the pre-season has been enough for me. lol
how can you not root for Josh Hamilton? seriously..
You work for the alcohol or cocaine lobby?
(BTW, a cocaine lobby would be AWESOME. The most happening spot on K Street.)
Alloverthisshit.
What the Fuck do we do now ?
2011 lineup:
CF Granderson
SS Jeter
2B Cano
3B Rodriguez
1B Teixeira
RF Swisher
C Posada/Montero
DH Montero/Posada
LF Gardner
No objections, there!
Wait, let me make a change:
CF Granderson
SS Jeter
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
1B Teixeira
C/DH Posada
DH/C Montero
RF Swisher
LF Gardner
Gardner leads off. Swish 2nd. ARod sees 10 pitches before batting. Cano, Tex, Granderson, Jeter then the DH/catcher.
No.
Gardner is a No. 9 hitter. He will not be the Yankee leadoff hitter.
Gardner had the 8th highest OBP in the American League and lead the Yankees, ahead of Cano. He had 44% of the Yankees stolen bases. And I bet he can learn to bunt.
Who is better suited for a leadoff man on the Yankees?
CF Granderson
RF Swisher
2B Cano
3B AROD
1B Teix
DH Posada/Montero
C Posada/Montero
SS Nunez
LF Gardner
Yeah , that Nunez showed he’s definately better than Jeter
WOW
He has superior defense and he will be hitting #8. I’m thinking he will put up similar stats to Melky. Not everyone on the lineup has to be an all-star.
Also Jeter will demand at least 15 million a year – you sure you want that? Think a little you moron.
Yeah you could definitely tell from a whole 30 games. Maybe you should think some before you call people morons, OK?
You seriously think Jeter has better defense than Nunez? wow… just wow.
you seriously arguing that jeter and his 15+ million a year contract will be better than nunez and his minimum salary? what does jeter bring that nunez doesn’t? intangibles? LOLS!
Jeter will go DOWNHILL from here. If you think he will have some magical rebound season then you’re a SAD LOSER. Keep dreaming. This is life, people get old. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand this b/c you’re only a little boy.
Jeter is what, maybe a slightly better hitter (contact wise) from here on out? Worse defense and DEMANDS TO HIT #1 – b/c he’s the captain!
Hey man, quit with all the name calling. It doesnt make you smarter or better, and if your just trying to piss people off thats just sad
no, fuck you. you started it by making an obnoxious comment “YEAH BCCUZ NUNEZ SHOWD HEIS BETO THON DERIK JETI WOOOOHA”.
Two things:
1) Don’t put words in my mouth. I never said that Jeter was a better defender than Nuñez. I was pointing out that the sampling of Nuñez in the Majors is too small to justify him being a better defender.
2) Make a better argument than using my age against me. I understand that people get old. I understand that players will decline. I’m not stupid. I understand these simple concepts. My expectations for 2011 Jeter are reasonable (.280/.340/.410), so I’m not getting my hopes up.
why would you argue for paying someone 20+ million when you expect his performance to be just mediocre. and those numbers look like THE BEST SCENARIO for an old man like him.
Actually, Jeter is a decent bet to have one last semi-comeback.
A lot of great players don’t go downhill in a straight line. Many have one “kickback” season in them, before the lights go out.
See: Mantle, 1966; Mays 1970-1; Ted Williams 1960; Aaron, 1971 and 1973; Stargell, 1978-9; McCovey, 1977; Musial, 1962; Yastrzemski, 1977; Cobb, 1925; Wagner, 1911-2, 1915; Brett, 1990; Reggie, 1985; Ripken, 1999; Chipper, 2006-7-8; Larkin, 2000; Trammell, 1993; Molitor, 1996; Murray, 1995; Sandberg, 1996; Morgan, 1982; Gwynn, 1997; Rose, 1979 and 1981, sorta; Winfield, 1992, and so on.
This year’s model would be, oh, Thome, I guess.
It doesn’t work for Babe, Joe D or Lou, but at least Lou has an excuse.
Of course, I may be overlooking the possibility that last year WAS Jeter’s “kickback”.
“But I wouldn’t expect you to understand this b/c you’re only a little boy.”
Irony.
Nice calling me a moron
1) It aint My money
2) They’re gonna sign Jeter like it or not
3) If they did replace him, it damn sure wont be Nunez
Yeah, IM the Moron
oh yeah 4) GFY
yeah im sure they will trade for Hanley. dumbfuck.
Good Night My good friend, I dont argue with people on the internet cause everyones too tough when you cant see them
good to know i won this argument.
No, you lost.
You’re a loser.
But I think you know that.
I don’t see a guy with Grandy’s power making it as a leadoff guy.
We had Sori for three years, look at how that worked out.
I really think they sell high on Gardner. I admit I was dead wrong on him this year, I would have still replaced him in June or July but he was great. I just don’t know how that profile holds up, especially with some potentially interesting corners hitting the non-tender market.
Is now, always and forever proud of this team that actually faced challenges, injuries and the like and still made it two games from the WS. In the end the better team won, so be it. Let’s go Yanks, and let’s get to pitchers and catchers.
And thanks to the quality people on this board that keep me coming back like a crackhead for a fix, despite the crazies that drive me insane.
2011: The Arrival
This team started falling apart from August 1 on, and they still were good enough to be only 1 game behind Tampa, still good enough to just roll right over the Twins. This team was at 50-75% of it’s true ability.
And it only gets better next season. What, you honestly think Jeter or the team will let him be this bad again? And how about A-Rod – I have no factual evidence for this, I just think he’ll be better next year. CC is in his prime and Lee will be here too. Gardner, Hughes and Cano are bound to show improvement next year and Granderson and Teixeira will almost certainly be better than their current off-year. Swisher looks good and of course, as I was saving the best for last: The Jesus will come. Him and Posada as a catcher/DH platoon? Ok, so we might not throw out a single runner all year, but combined the two of them will hit 50 homers (watch).
This team will destroy next year.
DESTROY.
You’re wrong, damnit, they’re an embarrassment.
AN EMBARRASSMENT!!!!!
/PoopyPants’d
You hold a grudge like nobody’s business.
I just like using foolish peoples’ words against them.
me too
What a bummer. Oh well. Looking forward to the banter as things unfold during the WS and the offseason. And to celebrating #28 with the RABis in the not-too-distant future.
Congrats to the Rangers.
Thanks all.
Yeah this was really my first RAB season as well. A pleasure it was
Mine too, even though I’ve been lurking up until now.
One positive note, I have about $1200 coming back from the Yanks for my unused playoff/WS tix.
My silver lining, too
we got smoked. seriously, we were lucky not to get swept
colby lewis is much better than i thought
very curious to see what cashman does this off-season. i really really don’t want jeter to overstay his welcome, is a 3 year deal inevitable? hope to see some montero next year. worried about the back of the rotation if we don’t get lee. sigh. can’t wait for spring training
thanks to everyone at rab for doing such great work
Alright i got it joba,drob,gardner,romine for Grienke even though hes a nut case. Sign Cliff Lee and sign Crawford thats it im getting greedy !
OAKTAG
any Greinke package is starting with Jesus
Plus Montero.
*Clearly,* this because the Yanks didn’t resign Damon and Matsui..
Let’s see Damon and Matsui vs. Gardner and Thames and you wonder why one team won the WS and the other didn’t get pass the LCS…you can’t quantify heart and…Some melt under heat others shine
Nothing to do with heart.
The idea that Gardner is somehow going to approximate Damon offensively is ridiculous. It’s not heart – it’s talent. Gardner manufactures offense through walking and his speed.
He’s not going to be some post-season clutch hitter.
Would have liked to see Matsui re-signed. Thames did a nice job for us vs. lefties. Matsui can hit both.
Let’s see Damon and Matsui vs. Gardner and Thames
It was Granderson, not Gardner. And Johnson, not Thames, and when Johnson went down he was replaced by Berkman.
Granderson and Berkman (with Thames sprinkled in) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damon and Matsui
I have to say, with few exceptions this has been an excellent crew. Thanks for helping us grow to unexpected heights, again, this season.
I blame Lady Gaga.
Joe, don’t you go to unexpected heights every day?
zing
Whether Texas was the better team or not, they played like the better team in this series, and that’s all that matters. Lets not forget what this team did this season too – most people would love for their team to win 95 games and win a playoff series. Just ask Cubs fans.
What happened is they met their match. Good luck to Texas; if they face the Giants, I’ll be happy for one of the long-suffering fanbases finally getting a World Series title, if they face the Phillies, go Rangers. Fuck Philly.
Congrats Texas on your first pennant.
LMAO Girardi looked like he was about to cry in his press conference.
I know I;m being insesnitive here, but come on Girardi! Be a man! You’re gona make shitload of money next, you’re probably gona get a raise with NY and are proabably guaranteed the playoffs next year.
Not your fault your non-cano hitter sucked and non Andy SP sucked.
I haven’t cried in years, and didn’t cry after this, but I will say that for those directly involved with all of this, I can understand Joe being disappointed to that degree.
He’s going to get crucified for managing a 95 win ALCS-losing team. Oh the shame.
Am I being a brat for saying that Colby Lewis is not a good pitcher, our sucky hitters just made him look like a Cy Young?
we’re allowed to be brats for a little bit. venting is healthy.
You were a brat before you said that.
(jk)
colby lewis is agood pitcher..but not 1 run over 8 good
Dallas Braden was no hits over 9 good once. Happens.
He was pummping a measly 90 MPH fastball by the entire team late in the game. There was something very wrong with our offense.
Maybe they should all spend a weekend at Kevin’s during the winter.
It was as much our hitting sucked as he was good. It wasn’t like Lee when he was just lights out and gave very little chance to get a hit.
Random bright spot: Curtis Granderson seems to have been cured and he played quite well in the playoffs. I’m looking forward to seeing what he does in 2011.
Good point. Would like to see a career year from Grandyman next year.
I had to take a look out of curiosity – Swish, Tex, Jeter and Gardner combined for 0-21 with RISP and 1 RBI on a Gardner ground out. Swisher led the futility with a God awful 0-7.
Gardner stared down way too many down-the-middle fastballs.
Again……………..
Yay, Craig Sager wore his pimp suit to the postgame show.
My life is complete.
Was it the all-purple Joker suit?
YES has spent the better part of their postgame trying to put their finger on why the Rangers beat the Yankees. They keep saying the Rangers weren’t “intimidated,” and that they played with “energy.” Ummm…forigve me, but I think having half the ERA, double the avg. with RISP, and double the runs scored is probably enough evidence to determine why they won.
agreed, agreed, and um, agreed
but yeah, the rangers outhustled the yanks though
http://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/28467443618
It wouldn’t hurt so much if I didn’t think we played like absolute shit on both sides of the ball. The Rangers played well but we shouldn’t have been embarrassed like this. We couldn’t execute any good pitches when we needed them, and could never get that one good AB to extend a rally (aside from game 1). We looked completely lost at the plate for most of the series, swinging at garbage pitches and watching strikes fly by. And on an extremely anecdotal side note, I wouldn’t be surprised to see at least a .150 to .200 point disparity in BABIP. I’m probably only remembering the times they went against us but it really seemed that they got so many fucking infield hits or little bloops and 20 hopper that found their way to the outfield. A lot of it is probably due to the left side of our infield being below average defensively. Bah, anyway I think we played like garbage. They played well, but this series’ was lost more than won.
Yea probably overreacting but whatever, fuck those antlers and claws and that bullshit.
try again next year. We came pretty damn close to the WS for team that had practically no starter outside of CC (who also struggled)
FIRE RETARDI!!!111 JAWBA SUX!1 CHOKE-ROID IS THE ANTIJETAHHH!!!111
AJ BURNETT IS STOOOPID HE;S THE REASON FOR THIS!!!
ITS ALL JAVYS FAULT!!!11!
MELKY HINSKE DAMON MATSUI WWOOD HAVE SCOREEED 11 RUNS EACHHH IN THE FIRST INNING!!11!
canos awesome but posada sux lol whatevs
Did I forget anything? Oh yeah, FIYAH CASHMONEY!!!`11
You forgot one — FIRE HARKEY!
He just looks lost out there, dontchaknow.
Guess what? I’ve already gotten over the loss.
Wow, that was fast.
When they get beat by the better team it is what it is. They made plays and the Yanks didn’t when it came down to it…what can you really gripe? That’s beisbol…
Seriously I feel so good right. Now there’s nothing to stress about in Yankeeland!
And I don’t have to stay up late for these late games.
Carrying pain and suffering with you really doesn’t help, it only hurts.
Learn to cherish the good and let go of the bad.
That…that was beautiful.
Me too. It sucked but it’s done. Look to next year. The great thing is the Yanks will always be contenders.
Michael Kay after the Yankees won game 1…”this series is over” ;/
I’d like to say that this was painless.
Honestly, the only reason I’m really pissed is that we’re gona have to read about it/ listen to it in the media tomorrow.
Also, I’m gona hear some crap in school on Monday.
Such as what?
Your team was one of four left standing.
They won the whole thing last year.
They’ve won five rings and have been in seven WS in 14 years.
Grow some spine, friend.
the yankees went 0-4 since you guys banned me. clearly my homophobic jokes bring good luck. oh well your loss.
Didn’t they win Wednesday?
Indeed.
Homophobes aren’t good at counting or logic, apparently.
I’m kind of amused he admits he’s a homophobe, though.
its just a homophobic joke don’t take it too hard. i noticed it was good luck so i kept doing with it. in real life i keep my homphobic jokes to myself.
i’m srry for my math, but i posted on that thread so really 0-3 with me not posting and 5-0 when i post.
and yeah im a homophobe and i’m allowed to. as long as i don’t hurt anybody physically then it’s okay (thats what my mom told me).
I bet your mom is a wonderful lady. And probably a lesbian.
Yeah, some idiot making fun of people is why they lost. Brilliant deduction, Sherlock.
Not the way I wanted my first season as a baseball fan to end. I had seriosuly never sat and watched a game before this year. I fell in love with the sport and the Yankees. The season brought highs and lows but every minute of it was a pleasure to watch the best team in baseball play at such high quality. I’ll be a Yankee fan till the day I die.
Got to thank the people at this site for creating an informative and intresting blog where people of like minds can get together and collectivly watch a game. What other place can you get together with this many fans separated by such distances and root for your team? Kudos to all involved. I can’t wait to enjoy next year with you all.
Welcome to the game. It really is the finest of all the sports.
What he said.
And a word of advice from a baseball fan who’s been a fan a little bit longer than you have:
Don’t take losses to heart. They happen a lot.
I’ve been a fan since I went to my first Yankees game (at Shea Stadium!) in 1974. It will only get better.
You picked the right team.
The only team sport which isn’t a swivel-head game. Up the field, down the field, up the field, down …
You’ll love it more and more as time goes on. Hopefully you’ll experience being with the World Championship Team in 2011. Hang around for the Hot Stove action, as everyone tries to figure who and what we’ll do to improve. That’s a big part of the fun, and the site stays active year-round.
I’m looking forward to seeing what our new #3 hitter does next year… Curtis Cano. He looked pretty good.
95 sucked. 04 sucked. this was like a minor scratch compared to those.
congrats Texas.
Well, winning last year really takes the edge off.
The Rangers just owned the Yankees in every conceivable aspect this series. Hitting, fielding, pitching, and managing.
It was like twilight zone for me reading this board at how many people were clamoring for the Rangers over the Rays and how they were so weak behind Cliff Lee.
The Rangers as constructed are a very, very dangerous postseason team. The best pitcher in baseball at the top, two very good pitchers behind him, a very good bullpen, a very scary middle of the order including one of the best players in baseball, and a very smart manager.
It’s hard to believe how underestimated they were.
Rays and Rangers were good. Me wanting to face the Rangers over the Rays is not akin to saying that the Rangers are bad or easy.
Remember, if the Rays had won Price probably would have been pitching well too.
This series reminded me of having the stomach virus.
You know when you feel so sick that you’re like ugh I just want to be better I don’t wana barf?
But then it’s so painful that you know you’re gona puke.
Then you puke and you’re like: ugh thank God I feel so much better now! Someone buy me some KFC!
Just like this series. Bring in some Cliff Lee and Jesus Montero!
Kay just ate a ton of crow and apologized for saying that the series was over in game 1.
i blame him for the series lost…he jinxed us
he’s still an asshole who should be ignored at all costs
“What does next year hold for you, Andy?”
“I don’t know. I’m not really sure.”
ANDY NO. (weeps, clings, does other crazy irrational things)
Ok, I can’t even think about Andy leaving right now or I will start crying.
1/13m. like posada. october/november 2011 is going to suck.
Ugh. That’s not what I needed to read right now. Well, i’m sure the Steinbrenners will green-light another $16 MILLION, 1-year contract offer. Hopefully, Andy’s hunger for another ring wont dissipate in the down time.
He pitched so well against Lee. The man is a wonder and he’d be a great back-of-the-rotation stabilizer.
Why did i assume Pettitte made $16MM in 2010? Heh. OH well. A slight raise should instead put the sum at $13 MM. Tidy sum for essentially a back-of-the-rotation arm.
Just remember there are 2 billion other men in the world…there is always another.
He says that every year. Not to worry.
I guess people understand now why Cashman was willing to trade Montero for Lee.
He is an incredibly smart GM and the perfect man for this particular job.
Still wouldn’t have done it. Still.
Me too.
It wasn’t necessary at the time. Noone expected Andy to get injured, Javy to fall go back to April form, and Hughes to continue to regress.
Pitching was hardly the problem at the time.
I wouldn’t have done it now.
With all the talk about Lee, he beat the Yankees once. That’s it.
Is half a season of Lee worth Montero? I don’t think so.
Yes, but you have to compare Lee getting 2 starts for the Yankees and Hughes getting 1 start over Burnett.
True…it MIGHT have had a major difference.
Still wouldn’t have done it.
It comes down to what you prioritize. It is definitely a questionable move that people are always going to disagree on.
Cashman got killed by a lot of people and called stupid for attempting it.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
Yes, but you have to compare Lee getting 2 starts for the Yankees and Hughes getting 1 start over Burnett.
And you also have to compare having Lee one year earlier and no Montero against waiting a year for Lee and having both him and Montero together.
1. You can’t guarantee having Lee and Montero
2. Montero guarantees nothing
Flags fly forever and Cashman knows that. You send another flag up the pole and go to work next year. World Series victories are simply invaluable to the franchise.
3. Getting Cliff Lee also doesn’t guarantee anything
4. You have an annoying habit of adding “guarantee” to comments where nobody ever said the word guarantee and arguing against strawman positions
Flags fly forever, of course; however, winning one flag is never the objective, winning flags every year is the objective. So Cashman must constantly walk the line of when to be aggressive/when to be conservative, knowing that some trades will cost him material that will make it harder to win down the road.
We didn’t win titles between 2001-2008, but the 2009 ring was won with the help of numerous good young players we DIDN’T trade away.
And the taste of that WS was so sweet while going back to back would have been enormously valuable to the franchise.
Down the road you never know what is going to happen especially with a team strapped with aging stars and longterm contracts.
There here is now for the Yankees and Cashman is going to do everything in his power to get as many titles as possible with the Core 4 still around.
not sure about the incredibly smart part… but yeah.. he’s ok
Did you read the article on how Cashman got through to Cano this past winter about his plate discipline? It was genius in the context.
did you also read where Cashman paid like $45 million to Kei Igawa? talk about a genius move
One move, especially one in which he relied on a trusted scout, does not define a GM.
He is one of the smartest if not the smartest GMs in the game. Have to be blind not to see that.
He’s smart. The Cliff Lee trade wasn’t.
That is certainly not how the Yankee organization feels right now.
Because they lost a short series? Anything can happen. CC and Hughes imploded. If they hadn’t we may be in a different situation.
Of course. They tried to get Lee to win a World Series.
They didn’t win the WS and their starting pitching was one of the main culprits. Their opponent would not have even been the same had they traded for Lee.
Why do you think they tried to make the trade?
To win a WS. They did not.
but they hung on to make the playoffs WITHOUT him and made it to game 6 of the ALCS, also WITHOUT him.. meaning if a couple of guys step up and a couple of breaks go our way, and we could easily have won the World Series WITHOUT him (just as we did last year)
and all WITHOUT trading our best hitting prospect in almost 20 years
They also will be playing golf tomorrow WITHOUT him.
The point of the trade was to remove much of the doubt associated with this team winning the WS.
The New York Yankees don’t play for maybe having a chance to win a WS. Every year it is about maximizing the opportunity to send a new flag up the pole.
Cashman is lucky Big Jack pulled out.
That would have been the dumbest move of all time.
A half season of Lee for 15 of Montero, who has been compared to Frank Thomas and an “Edgar Martinez with elite power.”???
Pull-eaze.
It’s as bad as the Yanks trying to force Arizona to take Cano for Randy Johnson.
Fortunately, they were also too stupid to bite.
They extended team control to 15 years?
I must have missed that one in the 2006 CBA.
As a wise man said:
Number of times the Yanks have been outbid on a player they wanted: never.
I don’t post on here much to avoid the inevitable crazy but some of you may know me from my now defunct twitter account by the same name, but I’m glad to see the overall tone in this thread is more reasonable.
Shit happens. This team was great and fun to follow this year. We saw Hughes develop into a legit starter who despite some second-half and playoff stumbles seems to be primed to become a key piece of the rotation for years to come. Gardner played way over his level and if he can approach the numbers he put up next season, awesome (though that may be a tad unrealistic). Swish had an even better year than last year. Granderson turned it around toward the end and looks promising going forward. AND the farm system jumped incredibly. With Montero next year and the bunch of arms we have coming through the system, we have a lot to look forward to.
Texas just played better. Shitty ending to the season but it kept me engaged since April and I enjoyed it. C’est la vie.
Bah… it’s been fun. Time to become a Giants fan.
Just a +1 of thanks to the lords of RAB and the posters here. Great community and I learned a ton while having a ball. The hot stove can’t come soon enough!
Offseason game plan:
1. Dump Jorge steal Mauer
2. Dump 0-14 Tex and resurrect Gehrig
3. Dump Gardy and bring back Melky–> that kid has heart
4. Swisher sucks, bring back Paulie and Bernie…grandy can be bench player
5. Jeter’s here to stay soooory.
6. Bench = Homer Bush–> guy makes things happen
7. Sign Lincecum, Hernandez, Halladay, Lee, put CC in bullpen
8. A-Rod is a choker so we’re gona play Pena just to make it fair against other teams.
Alright Cashmoney,make it happen!
Can we get a list of all of the worst comments of the year?
I hope that my first one gets on. I was born a troll.
Link??
Is there enough bandwidth on the Internet?
See iwish comments above
So, long time fans…out of curiosity, what was your worst Yankee lost?
First reaction is ’04, of course. But I think I have to go with ’95 to the Mariners…first time they made the playoffs since I was three, and that game 5 in Seattle was devastating.
Also, if I was alive I bet the ’60 World Series would have sucked big time.
Totally agree with you about the 95 loss to the Mariners. I was born in 1980 so that was the first time I was able to watch the Yankees in the postseason. Still that loss bothers me more than any loss since.
I was also born in ’80. The funny thing about the ’95 loss was that it was the first time I felt that shitty feeling for a baseball team. I had experienced it with my teams in the other sports, but never with baseball.
It was absolutely soul crushing.
Still pales in comparison to ’01.
My ranking:
’01
’04
’95
—
’97
’02
’06
–
’03
’07
’05
’10
’01, definitely. I know they’d won the past three but I loved that team so much. It just felt, and this is really stupid but I was like 14 okay, like a magical season. And then the way it ended… gutpunch. This doesn’t even come close to comparing.
Yeah, ’01 was incredibly tough but…there was so much good in that series that I remember feeling ok about it after. It was all gravy I guess. I do remember just being shocked of the very notion of Mo not closing it out. But, in a way, while they did not win, the comebacks in the ’01 series were a nice way to send out that group that I loved so much.
I will also throw 1994 in here, and the fact that they didn’t get a chance in the playoffs that year…
Thats why I didnt even care after losing in 2001, they had no business being there and they lost it with Mo on the mound, cant ever get mad/disappointed when that happens.
2001 WS Game 7. Yankees lose to the D-Backs following Mo’s blown save. That took a long time to get over.
It helped me greatly to hear Rivera give his spiritual reasoning for that loss.
Nothing, NOTHING, is worse than 04 for me..
That’s not one loss, but I understand the point.
For me it was 2001. No question. That’s the one I want back. It was for the championship. It was right after 9/11 and those great comeback wins in NY. Mo was on the mound. It would have been four straight world championships, something we’re not likely to ever see. It’s something only the old Yankee teams did. Win or lose, we kind of knew it was the end of that dynasty. No question about it. Given the choice to undo 2004 or win it all in 2001, I want 2001.
’01, ’04, ’03, ’97, ’07, ’06, ’10
2001. Two outs away from a championship with Mariano Rivera on the mound. Easy choice.
So, long time fans…out of curiosity, what was your worst Yankee lost?
I don’t remember it.
#doesn’thangontopainandregret
Has to be the ’81 Series.
Blew a 2-0 Series lead, and I watched the infield crumble before my eyes.
Watching Jello-Man jiggle up and down with joy, well, there are few uglier sights.
That is even overestimating the tax situation.
There is a “jock tax.” Professional athletes get taxed based on every game they play in a different state.
They are taxed for the 81 games they play on the road.
Bah. This was supposed to be a reply to tommie up top.
And my comment alluded to the fact that only half of his games would be in tax-free Texas.
I’m on top of it, bro, but thanks for the helpout.
Oh, my bad I misread what you said.
No problem.
Should we pay Cliff Lee $26 million a year for 5 yrs if that’s what it takes?
Jefe, would you consider that a plethora of money?
I gotta get that dvd.
-How can you tell it’s a mail plane?
-Look at the little balls.
thanks for answering my question.
Hey, I’m just replying to vin and Pat D, not you.
You want an answer? Yes, we should give Lee 26/5 if that’s what it takes.
Overspending is a sound business strategy for us, and we should continue doing it when necessary to obtain premium players.
NONONO.
But I know it’s going to happen, so WTF.
Again, we’ll be paying for his twilight years, while kids like the Killer Bs get blocked to the Bronx.
Pettitte, Burnett become the unblocks.
And not all the B’s wind up in the rotation.
We weren’t going to win with the way we played. Oh well. Go Giants!
So, I was at work. Did I miss anything?
**ducks**
We won!
It was a classic game, too. Teixeira hit a walk off shot from the dugout.
lmao ,ty, ietc
I knew I was just dreaming!
Phil Hughes perfecto. Tied 0-0 going into top of the 9th. Pena had come in to pinch run for A-Rod earlier in the game. He hits the game winning homer to dead center field. Phil Hughes gets the final three outs and 3rd no hitter in post season history.
Yanks gona rock CLiff Lee tomorrow.
That’s… not funny.
Doesn’t this seem like the worst possible way the season could end. there are questions about so many players that you hope this round of offseason moves actually pan in in 2011
pan out*
No. Bengie Molina 3 run walkoff against Mariano erasing a 2 run lead. Any loss to Boston. Swept by Minnesota in the ALDS. There are thousands of worse ways for a season to end.
We played like crap and still managed to get it six games. This isn’t the worst that it could be.
Doesn’t this seem like the worst possible way the season could end
Not making the playoffs. A 2004 situation. Losing to Minnesota in the first round. Losing to Boston in general. A walk-off against Mariano in Game 7 with a lead. Sooooo many worse ways for this season to end.
I’d like to say I really enjoyed this site. I thought the posts were informative and the comments were very entertaining. Thanks for a fun year: RAB leaders and regulars.
Sincerely,
First Time Lawng Time
P.S. I’d like to thank the commentor of this post…makes me laugh everytime.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....nt-1205853
The Pavano’s mustache thread… a day that will live in infamy…
Greatest post ever?
Just to continue the love fest…thanks to everyone at RAB and to all the true fans on the site. Living outside of my true home in NY, it is always comforting and engaging to be able to talk Yanks with those of you who are thoughtful and compelling. Cheers everyone.
I will say, that as a “first-year” poster on RAB, I really enjoy this website. Not only do the blog entries provide so many different angles to a game or situation that I would have never thought of, but it’s YOU guys, the commenters, that really make a difference.
There have been games that went absolutely down the crapper this season and when I clicked over to RAB purely for the commentary, my mood was lifted. You guys are a great bunch.
This was definitely an interesting season. I feel fortunate to have been able to make it to the Stadium three times this season, including a last-minute trip to the game that turned out to be the one A-Rod hit #600 in. I saw Brett Gardner’s first grand slam (can he do that again, please?). And I just felt so, so proud to be a Yankees fan.
We didn’t have a repeat of 2009, but boy… wouldn’t that have been nice. You know what? We’ll come back next year with a vengeance and show the rest of the world who the true champions are.
i wonder if cash every put hughes on the table when it came to the cliff lee negotiations
ever*
I’m pretty sure Lee will be asking for money, not Phil Hughes.
IETC.
Maybe he’d ask for Hughes to be his personal butler, Seinfeld-style.
I thought that’s what was meant at first too. Sunil was wondering if Cash ever put Hughes on the table during the Cliff Lee negotiations with Seattle.
Cash said resigning Girardi is the first order of business for the off season.
makes sense. only joe g. could turn swish into a world class bunter.
seriously though, winning the 2009 WS has bought Joe G. another contract. I dont think it should run greater than 3 yrs. Somebody’s head has gotta roll if a CC-Lee-Hughes rotation cant win another WS title.
“Resign” can be taken two ways.
as it should be.
Biggest difference from 2009 – these Yankees swing at too many bad pitches!!!
Biggest difference from 2009
– these Yankees swing at too many bad pitches!!!no Damon, Matsui, and Melky.FTFY
well done!
Except Damon, Matsui and Melky haven’t done shit this year.
I was joking.
I was hoping.
I’ll be moping.
You’ll be groping.
I’ll be Pope-ing.
Melky hit .391 and had a .994 OPS with four RBI in the 2009 ALCS.
SFUB
LOL I was more upset after losing those games to Pawtucket back in September than I am right now.
I think come Monday we’ll get official word that Joe Girardi has been fired as manager of the NYY. Cashman needs to sign Lee in the offseason and get some more help on offense.
Get off the crack, son.
I do think Cashman will be spared, but he deserves a lot of the blame. He should have been more aggressive in getting Cliff Lee. The AJ contract is a disaster. Bringing in Vazquez was atrocious. Hughes never should have been put in this spot.
Make the bet.
The AJ contract is a disaster.
I love AJ. But that’s just me.
Not getting Lee will turn out to be a blessing in disguse.
Just like not trading for Johan Santana was.
Signing FA pitchers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trading good talent for soon-to-be FA pitchers
Lets make a bet which we can have the admins here monitor w/ IP addresses. If Girardi is gone by Monday, I never post here again. If he’s not, you leave forever. Deal? Or were you just saying something else stupid that even you don’t believe?
Cocaine’s a helluva drug.
Disappear. Please.
We will also get word that the Yankees have utilized stem cell research to resurrect a clone of the greatest Yankee managers combined. In 2011 you can look forward to our new super manager, Casey Mcmartinhugginsouk. In the second game of the season, he will be called a moron by trolls on RAB.
Ain’t that the troof
I know you’re trolling but Cashman just said priority #1 was resigning Girardi so I guess not.
I seem to be the only one that wants Texas to win? I like American league teams better and Texas has a good young team. The only thing that is annoying is the claws and antlers…
Btw when does Cruz become a free agent, that guy is a monster with a bad hammy.
I have nothing against Texas. I really like them. I’d rather see them win than the Giants or Phillies, I think.
The Giants are the only team I can root for now. The Phillies are beneath contempt and I can’t root for a team that just handed it to us.
This.
100% this. I dunno maybe because the Giants were a former NY team and they’re a ‘classic’ team, I’m completely behind the Giants now.
I’m completely behind the Giants because I think Philly and Texas fans are douches. Any fanbase that chants “Yankees Suck” while losing is deplorable.
Well said. Me too.
If its Texas versus the Giants, I’ll root for Timmy and crew. But if I’m ranking the teams by who I want to see win, its Giants -> tiny gap -> Rangers -> gap wider than you can imagine -> Philadelphia.
I will be pulling for Texas. Even more passionately if the Phillies are in it.
The only thing that is annoying is the claws and antlers…
That alone is what makes me not root for them.
ditto that! stupidest shit ever!
My exact thinking. Coming into the playoffs, I wouldn’t have been against rooting for Texas. But that claw and antler stuff… hate it. And you know what? I read some Rays comments after their loss to the Rangers and some even said they would root for the Yankees because of the claw and antlers. If that isn’t proof that they’ve surpassed the Rally Monkey on the annoyance scale, I don’t know what is.
However, if the Phillies win, I’d have to root for the Rangers (as much as it pains me to see the Roys not getting that ring). That said, go Giants!
Wait, no Cano interview?
Wow this game really was a bust.
I’m not gonna lie, I want Elvis Andrus’ afro.
Screw Elvis and his dogshit hitting.
So, here are some players who I think could be ex-Yankees by Opening Day 2011, in order of most likely to least likely.
Joba Chamberlain
Brett Gardner
Nick Swisher
Curtis Granderson
Andy Pettitte
Mariano Rivera
And here are those who, of course, will be ex-Yankees. Thanks for playing, boys.
Lance Berkman
Austin Kearns
Javy Vazquez
Kerry Wood
I can’t imagine any scenario where Granderson is moved. There’s just nothing to be gained there.
I really don’t think so, either, but I figured someone would be pissed if I didn’t mention him.
Let them be pissed.
Not sure but I think Swisher and Granderson have contracts that extend through 2011. Mo will be back. Whether or not Andy is back is up to Andy. I’d give Gardner about 75% chance of returning and Joba about 25%.
With the factual assist: Granderson is signed through 2012 with a 2013 option ; Swish is signed through 2012
Doesn’t matter if they’re under contract, does it?
True. Technically they can be traded, but do you see either Grandy or Swisher getting dealt in the off season? Doesn’t seem likely to me.
No, probably not, although even the Yankees operate with a budget, and the Yankee outfield of Gardner, Granderson and Swisher has a combined yearly salary of about $18 million. They’re young, under team control for a few more years, productive, and cheap. The Yankees could move one of them, but it’s not likely.
Joba will go to the National League, where he will resume a career as a starter, with someone not named Dave Eiland mentoring him.
And he will be a high K guy that actually develops into a fine starter.
Thanks, Dave.
Granderson isn’t to blame, he had a good playoffs. Jobber should probably get another chance to start, if he fails then dump him. Gardner I could see being moved, but not Swisher. Andy retires. Why would Mo go anywhere? He’s said he wants to keep pitching.
There’s always that small chance Mo retired. Though I don’t think so.
I’m not saying Granderson is to blame for anything. But he does have a contract that could be moved for potential assets.
Woa woa woa…
Joba?
:’(
Exhaust the little moment.
Soon it dies.
And be it gash or gold it will not come
Again in this identical guise.
-Gwendolyn Brooks
(golf clap)
I know you all hate AJ, but I would like to confess something.
I love AJ.
Yes, you heard me. I love Allan James Burnett. (but not in the same way of the Andy love here…I mean soley as a player)
I know he’s frustrating and gets meltdowns, but he is so entertaining! I mean after he gave up the HR to Bengie the other day he just threw his arms on his head and started laughing as if to say: “Great my great night is now wasted and I;m gona get crap from the media.”
He’s fun to root for IMO.
I’m hoping a year from now he’s voted come-back player of the year. He is frustrating as a pitcher, but he seems like a decent enough person, and he put the Yankees right back in the 2009 World Series with a great game 2. He also seems to still have his “stuff,” and this was far and away his worst year ever, so there is hope he can put up decent numbers again. He’ll never earn the salary the Yanks gave him, but I’m hoping he’ll be a productive pitcher again.
A.J. Burnett is gona have a monster year next year.
I gurantee it. He’s gona start off badly but then go on a monster roll. Until Aug. because he sucks in August but then he’s gona dominate the post season and be ALCS MVP.
AJ is a power pitcher though, and his velocity did slightly decline this year. he will also be 34 next season.
I don’t care. I got the positive vibes all next season.
He’s gona be worth every penny of that contract.
Almost.
Trust me. What could go wrong?
do you suffer from short term memory loss?
No. I suffer from being psychic.
Samesies. If I wasn’t driving the Sign AJ bus, I was riding in the front row. The SO% and GB% were awesome heading to NY. Hasn’t panned out like the contract dictates but I like the guy.
Yeah. I don;t really care about that technical stuff He just seems like a cool guy. Would like to meet him. He’s also extremely fun to watch when he’s on.
I always hope for him to succeed. Hence, the Postivie AJ vibes.
I missed the game because I had a dinner engagement in Brooklyn that couldn’t be moved. The place had no TV, so I was annoyed at first, but in retrospect I’m glad. Doesn’t appear I missed much of a game.
I’m an A.L. guy, so I’ll be rooting for the Rangers the rest of the way.
Wasn’t a great year for the Yankees, but it was a good one. Hot stove upcoming!
Hahah I purposely went out to dinner to try and avoid the game and I was peeved when the restaurant ended up having a TV.
Gentlemen (and the few ladies that post here),
It simply wasn’t our season. We made it to a Game Six of the ALCS despite the fact that Derek Jeter, Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Jorge Posada, and first-half Curtis Granderson had down years (some career down years in the cases of Jeter, Teixeria and A-Rod). We made it to a Game Six of the ALCS despite the fact that AJ Burnett was awful, Javier Vazquez was awful, and Andy Pettitte missed a signficant amount of time. Plus, we lost our opening day DH…
Next year will be a different story. We’ll probably see Cliff Lee added to the starting rotation. We’ll probably see another Ninja Cashman trade. We’ll probably see the begining of the Jesus Montero-era in the Bronx.
2011 has the potential to be an all-time great Yankees team.
Hopefully the off-season goes well for us. It should be fun to monitor!
I dont think cliff lee is a lock to end up in the bronx. the biggest competition as far as signing lee goes is texas, nolan ryan’s team. its no coincidence that texas’ rotation suddenly started showing up once lee was on that team. he’s definitely helped that staff improve. i think texas will go all out on him.
Who cares.
Let Texas re-sign the guy. We already have CC.
This salivating for Lee is repugnant.
WARNING: HIGHLY TOXIC COMMENT TO FOLLOW
I would rather see Jeter get signed by another team and do well than watch him slowly fade away in pinstripes.
Jeter had a down year…but he also had a great year the year before. I think he bounces back and has a solid, Jeterian season in 2011. In pinstripes.
That would be the best scenario.
Of course, that is how it will play out. Jeter isn’t going down just yet, although it sounds that some here wish he would.
What are you talking about? No way Jeter fades away in pinstripes.
“Excuse me? Derek Jeter showed tonight why he is worth every penny of that 3 year $80 million contract we will give him after this season is over. I can’t believe people are bashing Jeter after what he did tonight. I have not given up on Jeter. I am standing on my desk right now with tears running down my face shouting OH CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN! Who’s with me?”
–Big Bertha
Best post ever. EVER.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....nt-1205853
Meh, I bet Jeter hits close to .290/.365ish.
This ALCS reminds me of the Yankee playoff teams from 2005~2007.
Not much pitching, and an offense that shuts down in the postseason…
Well, what’s done is done, looking forward to next season, and hope that the Giants wins the WS.
eh – those teams never made it past the ALDS.
SF G MEN GONA ROCK THE PHILLIES WORLD TOMORROW!
I swear if Philly comes back from 1-3 I;m gona be pissed.
They already used the Halladay bullet so SF has a good shot at winning the series and doing us all a favor and beating the Rangers.
I reall really like the Giants and would be super happy if they won the WS.
THey’re my NL team.
Same. They’ve been my NL team since I found out about Barry Bonds and his offensive numbers.
They’ve been my team since I saw their park.
ron washington is going to get himself a fine, young (under 18) white girl tonight.
…and he’s going to be sniffing some white powerder off her belly, and…
Oh, wait. I’m not supposed to be encouraging this kind of talk.
Never drink and post, son.
This loss really sucked. I had such high hopes for this team. The turning point in the series was game 4 where Tex got injured and then AJ gave up that homerun.
The turning point in the series was when Michael Kay said the Rangers had no shot and then the Yankees got dominated by Colby Lewis.
Nothing to do with AJ at all.
The turning point in the series was when
Michael Kay said the Rangers had no shot and thenthe Yankees got dominated by Colby Lewis.Nothing to do with AJ or Michael Kay at all.
Fixed.
I know. That comment from Kay annoyed me though.
Totally true. Yet it was a stupid statement from Kay. I know, I know. Shocking. When he said it after the first game in Minnesota, there was a chance he was right since it’s a short series. It was stupid when he said it after game one of a seven-game series. Yet he is our Michael Kay.
WHO BUT!
The intentional walk to effing David Murphy then the missed execution with that pitch to Molina were huge moments in the series. We needed to get a win off fucking Tommy Hunter of all people and we didn’t. It would have changed the whole complexion of the series.
Whatever though, didn’t happen so it doesn’t matter anymore.
Everything to do with AJ.
AJ’s dreadful season pushed Hughes up from the No. 5 guy to No. 3.
AJ helped us win a WS last year by winning Game 2 after we had lost the opener. For that alone, he was worth the money and years.
This year, his collapse had a domino effect that might have cost us a trip to the World Series. I like AJ too, and thought he pitched pretty well the other night. Especially glad to see him mix in some timely, effective changeups. Joe left him in too long, otherwise, I suspect we would have come to Texas up, 3-2.
But AJ’s poor season had far reaching effects on the rotation. If he had had a season like 2009, we might be on the verge of the World Series.
I just hope he continues to work in his changeup. It will extend his career and make him a much better pitcher for us.
Enough, Josh. Everyone gets it. Just hit baseballs.
Yeah but that series
Had a whole different feel after game 4 didn’t it?
No. It felt great after the comeback in game 1. But then felt over (at least to me) when we made Colby Lewis unhittable and Hughes shit the bed.
haha. hughes made cashman look stupid for not trading his ass this or last season.
Why would Cashman have traded him?
to get a better pitcher?
Who is only slightly better but much more expensive, and who costs other prospects in addition to Phil Hughes?
No thanks. That idea sucks balls.
hughes made cashman look stupid for not trading his ass this or last season.
I literally have no earthly idea what the fuck this means.
huges’ trade value was pretty high around the all star break this year. i think his second half and playoff outings have somewhat diminished that high trade value.
Trading Phil Hughes now would probably be the dumbest thing this team could possibly do.
He has no trade value, because we’re not interested in trading him.
yeah? you’re sure about that?
regardless, its speculation. had they made a move during the all star break it might have paid dividends. thats it. just a though.
Regardless, your cocksure statement that not trading Hughes made Cashman look dumb is one of the more stupid ones I’ve read on this board in a while. The guy turned the Yankee pen around in the ’09 championship season, and was a key member of the rotation in ’10. But, sure, whatever, it was dumb of Cashman.
Gee a 24yr old in his first full season as a starter struggling…my god I have never heard of such a thing!!!! But wasn’t he an 18 game winner? Phil is still learning his craft. No pitcher dominates in his first full season. Hughes’ problems this year have been putting guys away, the over reliance on his fastball, and the inability to control or locate his secondaries for strikes, and being predictable in his patterns. All of this will improve with experience, and I expect the ass-whoopings he had this post serve as a learning experience for him to improve on.
Why would you trade the best homegrown pitching prospect we’ve had in years?
First thing that should be on Cashman’s list: Fire Cervelli into Mars
Frankie Cervelli was actually one of the better backup catchers in the league this year.
I love Franco but that’s hard to believe. He started the season great but kind of faded there in the second half…
That’s not praise of Cervelli, it’s a commentary on the utter atrociousness of most backup catchers.
Cervelli sucks, but there’s not many better options readily available.
Jeter and Posada looked old, as did Alex. The situational hitting was beond awful except for the 8th inning of Game 1. Swisher played over his head in the regular season, but reverted to true form in the ALCS (like last year’s ALCS when he was an automatic out). Don’t overspend on Jeter – its money you then can’t spend on key free agents.
Lol, so Swish played over his head for 165 games then reverted to true form for 6 games in the ALCS? Hahahah good one.
Swisher has been at least a 3.3-fWAR player in four of the past five years; thus, his 4.1-fWAR 2010 wasn’t exactly a reach. When you combine that with Swisher’s six straight 20-plus-HR seasons and a career .357 wOBA, it is quite clear that the man is no slouch.
This was what a way to Finish off the first full Yankees season I’ve followed since ’05.
Giants better win the WS or I’ll be pissed
a.j. burnett was probably the biggest disappointment of the season. i’m not very hopeful that he’ll get it back. which is a pity. when he was on, it was about as close as baseball gets to art.
I’d say Vazquez was. Burnett was bad, but Javy was Cy Young-caliber in the NL last season and was slated to be the best No. 4 starter in baseball for NYY. Instead, Vazquez’s arm died, he pitched below replacement level, and wasn’t even on the postseason roster as a result. What looked like a great acquisition turned into a disaster.
The biggest disappointment was Joba…….the next Mo he is not.
One of the biggest disappointments has been the handling of Joba Chamberlain.
That starter from 2008 is still in there. The failure of Dave Eiland to coax that pitcher out of Joba – no, to just GIVE UP on that pitcher – is like the elephant in the room.
89 IP in the minors, and never a return trip to work with the pitching coach that actually knew how to get through to him, Scott Aldred.
EPIC FAIL for Cashman, Girardi and Eiland.
vasquez has the temporary thing going for him.
True, but just in the scope of the 2010 season, I’d say Burnett > Vazquez.
I don’t think you were paying attention, then.
He threw four or five really good changeups, and was hitting 95 the other night. That is very encouraging, considering he had apparently lost about 1.5 mph on his FB earlier on.
If AJ can maintain that velocity and keep that changeup in his back pocket, it will make all the difference for him next season.
i’ve been paying attention for the last two years. he did throw the best changes i’ve seen him do but he only sat at 95 in the first inning. anyway, i hope you’re right.
well, i’m gonna be looking forward to the fan confidence poll this monday
I want to see the fan confidence poll after Texas re-signs Lee and we re-sign Jeter to a 5 yr deal.
yep give up on a just turned 24 year old starter…
really get a clue… the guy won 18 games…….
any aj burnett fans need to see a shrink, the guy is worse then ed whitson….
I tip my hat to the Rangers, they are a talented and confident team. A big thanks to RAB and my fellow Yankees fans all over the world for a great year. I’ve been in Beijing for 2 years now and between listening to the games on the radio at 7 in the morning and constantly checking this site, Yankee stadium and the best fans in the world are never far away. Cheers, here’s to 2011 I can’t wait
Berkman going after Moreland’s ground ball in the fifth inning really hurt. If he goes to the back there it’s an easy out, and the Rangers likely don’t score in the inning.
*bag
Same thought crossed my mind after the play. He didn’t have a chance at that ball.
Oh well, at least they lost to a better team. Besides, even though I don’t root for them, it should be fun watching Lee go up against Lincecum or Halladay.
That aside, it wasn’t a bad season overall. While the wheels seemed to fall off the last two months, and the Yanks ended up flopping against the Rangers, they still managed to have a pretty solid season.
This offseason, they’ll probably re-sign Girardi, Jeter, and Mo to maintain the core. Andy will have to make his decision on whether to keep playing, although he still seems to have something left in the tank. The outfield should probably stay the same, and defense wise, is one of the better ones the team has had in years. Jeter and A-Rod won’t be getting any younger, Tex should probably have a bounceback season (I hope), and Robbie should be Robbie.
The question is what they plan to do about their starting rotation, relief corps, bench, and catcher situations.
Lee will probably hit the free agent market (unless he wins a WS with Texas and decides he loves it there, this is a likely outcome), and will easily be its crown jewel. Unless Cash makes a trade, everyone here expects him to be our main target.
The bullpen and bench usually are a lesser concern, and Cash will probably kick the tires on some guys and sign them to short term (read: one year) contracts, and then proceed to mix and match as the season goes on.
As for our catcher, Jorge’s not a young man, and his defense and bat will continue to slide, although hopefully not too much. We all love Jesus, but can he stick at catcher? And will Cash trade him?
/Optimistic fan’d
Count me as someone who thinks Jeter should retire rather than suck for the next four years.
I prefer your idea that you retire.
Jeter stays.
How much you think he gets to suck in the #1 hole? $15M? More?
Back in the day, this would be Jeter’s last season. They might offer him something and ask him to play OF, but the OLD way of doing things was getting rid of a guy a year early rather than a year too late.
Sort of like Rizzuto. Of course, there’s no Tony Kubek waiting in the wings.
I still believe there may be a real financial sh!tstorm hitting professional sports if the economy continues to stagger, and I honestly don’t like the idea of giving Jeter a big contract.
But of course they will. I’m not saying I know better than Cashman and the Steinbrenners, but we as fans are going to suffer for the premium we’re paying to both ARod and Jeter to have them in pinstripes to set career records and provide “marketing” muscle.
The key to the Yankees has been uncommonly good hitting from the infield and catcher positions, and we’re looking at serious decline phases from 3/5ths of that, with Posada being the only one we’re likely to be able to dump any time soon. And the only replacement coming down the pike is Montero, and there aren’t really that many high impact offensive players who will be up in the free agent market soon.
I think the Yankees’ hold on the AL east is going to slip over the next 4-5 years. Hopefully they can develop some good position players in the minors by that time.
Well, enjoy next year. I think I’m done following baseball. Life is getting too complicated to keep caring.
Failure is more prevalent than success in pro sports. If you expect the Yankees to win it all every year, then quitting on baseball is a good idea.
Is this your first year following baseball? I’m gonna assume yeah, just because of this comment.
:laughs:
No. This is my first year following baseball while married and working 70 hour weeks, though.
And given the work load probably won’t lighten up, and I don’t plan on getting divorced, baseball’s probably the thing to go. I’ll probably watch the odd game, but I’m done following it daily.
Gotcha – that’s fair. Trust me, I’d like to be married and working a long-ass work week.
Good luck to both searches
Oh well. Every 1996 has its 1997. Hopefully followed by a 1998,99 and 2000.
Hopefully I see Montero starting for the Yanks
Hughes 3.0
Lee maybe
aaah, just returned from my “drown my sorrows” bar run…just wait till next year….dem bums!
Tip of the hat to the Rangers.
Thank you for the great season, Yankees.
A lot of people are acting like the RAB season is over…sure the BASEBALL season is over, but the RAB season never ends. We still have the Cliff Lee bonanza, GM meetings, possible trades, Andy Pettitte retirement cliffhanger, fWAR vs. bWAR debates, insane “Bring back Melky” arguments, perhaps a guest appearance by Betty White as the wacky grandma who hates statistical analysis…
Call me an overreacting Yankee fan but what do you think about this lineup for next year?
SS Jeter
CF Granderson
2B Cano
1B Teixeria
3B Rodriguez
DH Posada
RF Swisher
C Montero
LF Gardner
I originally wrote this lineup with Gardner leading off and Jeter batting 9th. Ideally my original lineup would probably be more productive but seeing Jeter bat 9th just seems so wrong.
Starting each game with an out seems like a bad idea, though. He should be batting 8th, but they’ll never do that to him. Team should be > player, but it isn’t in this case.
I would go
Jeter, Grandy, A-Rod, Cano, Tex, Posada, Swish, Gardner, Montero (When he first gets the call).
why is montero hitting behind gardner?????? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Oh one more question (which I am going to ask during the chat tomorrow) Do you think there is any possible way of acquiring Zach Greinke without having to give up Montero?
He doesn’t want to play in a big market last I heard.
Yes, be a team that’s not the Yankees. Considering Greinke’s no-trade clause and all.
sigh
get felix, we need pitching
fuck felix. get colby lewis instead.
my offseason needs:
i don’t see a major overhaul this offseason. i’d say the starting eight position players stay. as for dh, i could see a platoon of thames and a lefty hitter such as russell branyan until jesus montero is ready. for the bench, i guess we’ll see a little more of cervelli, pena, and curtis, because i don’t see any good utility players that would presumably be willing to sign here. the only major move i see coming is the signing of cliff lee. we might also pick up some buy-low relievers such as chad qualls.
vs. RHP lineup
SS Jeter
CF Granderson
1B Teixeira
3B Rodriguez
2B Cano
RF Swisher
C Posada
DH Branyan (later Montero)
LF Gardner
Rotation: Sabathia, Lee, Pettitte, Hughes, Burnett
Bullpen: Rivera, Robertson, Chamberlain, Logan, Marte, Nova, Noesi
The offense as it is will likely be a little less productive next year:
Jeter – Documented slower bat speed.
Granderson – Should expect roughly the same from him.
Teixeira – Should be better but only if healthy.
Rodriguez – Slower bat speed.
Cano – Will regress a bit.
Swisher – Expect the same.
Posada – Declining.
Gardner – I expect Gardner to improve.
But that’s still a potent offense. Pitching is the question mark. The Red Sox, who were probably the best team in baseball without their injuries (scored the 2nd most runs with little playing time for youkilis or pedroia or ellsbury) should be better and the Rays will be about the same.
My mom – who goes by the comment handle “Marsha” – wanted me to say: “Opening Day. March 31: Only 160 days away!”
I’m looking forward to that!