Dec
16

Yankees have asked to see Freddy Garcia’s medical records

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From the please don’t let it be true department, Andrew Marchand says the Yankees have asked for Freddy Garcia‘s medical records, indicating their interest in the right-hander. Once upon a time Garcia was a brilliant workhorse starter, but that was several years and shoulder injuries ago. Last season with the White Sox, the 34-year-old pitched to a 4.77 FIP in 157 innings, striking out just 5.10 batters per nine innings and surrendering one homer for every 6.2 innings pitched. His fastball can’t even break a window these days.

I mean, I guess if it’s a really really low base salary ($1M or less), preferably on a minor league prove yourself in Spring Training deal, then I can live with it. All I know is that this movie will have a tragic ending.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League

55 Comments»

  1. Frank says:

    I’d rather gamble on John Maine or Bonderman before Garcia.

    • Mister Delaware says:

      Cosign on Bonderman. Upside there as a buy low guy with no MLB guarantee.

      • Clay Bellinger says:

        There’s almost no upside to Bonderman. There seems to be a misconception as to what he is. He had one good season – in 2006. He’s been downright horrendous recently.

        • Mister Delaware says:

          Upside doesn’t mean white Sabathia, it just means worthy of a rotation spot. His 2005 and 2007 seasons would both be more than fine for a 5th starter. Obviously, that’s a long time removed, but before the injuries he was always the shining example of the pitcher whose peripherals far outshined his results (for whatever reason). He’s back up to ~90 mph, so his arm isn’t shot like Webb’s is reported to be so, if you’re going to look for a spring training invite with a better than 2% chance of sticking, Bonderman could fit that bill.

          (Its also possible, albeit not probable, that he’s not getting help in Detroit. Porcello regressed this year, Scherzer was up and down and same with Edwin Jackson. Verlander would be awesome no matter who was working with him. Give it a shot, see what happens, then DFA him for a little cash worst case.)

    • Slugger27 says:

      bonderman maybe, no to maine.

  2. Granderslam says:

    My computer is lucky to still be in one piece after reading that Tweet. I thought Cashman was all about pitching. Umm….this does not help matters. Let’s just hope he is just checking in and nothing more.

  3. FIPster Doofus says:

    Come on, Cashman. You’re a lot smarter than this.

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      “You’re a lot smarter than this.”

      Javy the 2nd time around, Joba in the pen with low trade value, putting the Yankees in a situation where they had to get Lee, etc.

      You might want to rethink that statement.

      • Slugger27 says:

        joba pitched his way to the bullpen, its not like the yankees put him there after his good 08 season without giving him a chance.

        im not saying he doesnt deserve a 2nd chance, but a lot of ppl on here act like 09 never happened. he’s still young and talented, i get that. its a shame he probably won’t get another chance to start on the yankees. but still, he had 09 to prove himself and earn a permanent role in the rotation, and he didnt.

        he may be getting 1 less chance than he should, but its not like he got ZERO chances

        • The Big City of Dreams says:

          How much of a chance did he get in his first full yr as a starter? He struggled like most young players do and it showed in his stats. If he pitched for a number of clubs at worst they would have put him in the minors not in the pen because they hold onto the belief that they can recreate his 2007 season.

          No one ignores what he did in 2009 because he did in fact have a bad yr but it wasn’t bad to the point where he should be regulated to the BP. And now we have an inconsistent middle reliever that can’t be trusted in big spots. Even if the Yankees want to trade him why would another team give them anything valuable if Cash and Joe labeled him a reliever going forward.

      • FIPster Doofus says:

        Nope, not rethinking it.

      • pete says:

        Javy the 2nd time around

        How was Cashman supposed to know Vazquez would completely lose his fastball in 2010? Vazquez was one of the most durable pitchers in the majors in the 2000s, and pitched consistently in the solid-excellent range during that time, the lone exception being his injury-riddled 2nd half of 2004. I was for the signing at the time. I still think it was the correct choice, given the information available at the time of the trade

        Joba in the pen with low trade value

        Cashman was always on the Joba-is-a-starter bandwagon until this past offseason. I think it’s obvious the Yankees know something about Joba’s health that we don’t, and that’s why they aren’t having him start. As for the low trade value, that’s because of Joba’s shitty results, which are far from Cashman’s fault. The fact of the matter is, the dude got hurt, and something has been fucked up with him ever since. Just because we don’t know exactly what that is doesn’t mean that it isn’t there, or that cashman doesn’t know about it.

        putting the Yankees in a situation where they had to get Lee

        They didn’t have to get Lee. They simply had the resources to get him, and he would have made the team much, much better, so they tried very hard to get him. The Yankees have arguably the best lineup in baseball, they have a very good (and much improved from 2-3 years ago) defense, their bullpen is, outside of Rivera, who is Rivera, filled with cheap, quality arms, and their rotation has CC Sabathia, a top-10 pitcher in baseball, Phil Hughes, a solid, improving, young starter, AJ Burnett, who, apart from 2010, has been a consistently above average innings-eater, and they have ~$30m worth of budget space to round out the rotation.

        The Yanks won the world series in ’09, and entered 2010 with a better shot at winning than anybody else. Going into 2011, they’ll likely be one of the 4 or 5 best teams in baseball, and there’s little to suggest an imminent collapse. Consider that statement unrethought.

        • The Big City of Dreams says:

          He had to take into account everything when bringing Javy back the 2nd time. When the trade went down all we heard was he was hurt in 04, he was pitching hurt in 04, he battled injuries in 04, etc. I was for the deal too but e was terrible as a Yankee and didn’t really bring anything to the table last yr.

          If it’s health related then come out and let it be known. The Red Sox did it with Papelbon yrs ago. If it’s health related then the fans would stop the talk of they gave up on him too early. True his low value is partly due to his poor performance but by claiming more than once he’s a reliever why would any other team even think about giving the Yankees something of value. Why offer up a decent or good hitting prospect when all you’re getting back a middle reliever with velocity issues.

          The Yankees didn’t have to get Lee but they were willing to trade their best hitting prospect for a 3 month rental when at the time their 5 starters were performing great. The Yankees put everything in the Lee basket. He was the main focus of the off season and it shows because other than resigning their own players they didn’t do anything else until Lee had his decision.

          There is no collapse but let’s be honest so far his off season hasn’t been good.

  4. Cy Pettitte says:

    oh god please no

    I’d rather have Ramiro Pena pitch

  5. NOOOOOOOO! Please just bet trying to keep the price down on someone effective. Jeff Francis please.

  6. Gerald Williams says:

    Say it ain’t so….

    Let’s just let Swisher start. He was a monster in that game last year.

  7. Tom Zig says:

    yeahhhhhhhhhhhh…………nahhhhhhhhhhhhh

  8. Granderslam says:

    I only want Rasmus and Carpenter in a pipe-dream trade package. Freddy Garcia is unacceptable.

  9. It'sATarp says:

    What the fuck Cashman…

  10. Mister Delaware says:

    Come on, Cashman! I’d much rather have a GM who leaves some stones unturned than one who makes a massive commitment like … reading medicals? Oh, that’s it?

  11. Jorge says:

    Fighting for a spot would equal “who gives a crap.”

    I don’t mind them handing out triple digit numbers in spring training.

  12. Slugger27 says:

    the comments in this thread are a little crazy. he threw 157 innings last year with a 4.59 xFIP. not good by any stretch, but as a 7th starter/depth option? what’s the big problem?

    i guess i don’t get the bridge jumping about it, hes no worse than sergio mitre, and he would only be there for depth in case of injury.

    • We already have a Mitre in…. Mitre. And AAA is pretty full with the young guys plus the Prior reclamation project.

      And really, there isn’t much to like about Garcia. Bad injury history, huge dip in fastball velocity, Dustin-Moseley-like strikeout rate, gives up a ton of homers. He could theoretically soak up innings, sure, but so could a lot of guys with more upside.

      • Slugger27 says:

        other than david phelps, im not sure who you’re referring to. and he’s not even on the 40man. prior’s days of starting are over, he is irrelevant to the conversation.

        all he did was look at medical records. i think we should at least wait til the guy signs and we hear the amount he signed for before we get all crazy and up in arms.

        • I’m not up in arms. Just saying, there’s nothing to like about him. Looking at medicals is fine, let them see all the problems he’s had the last 3 years :P

          • Slugger27 says:

            i wasn’t referring to you specifically, more at the first 10 comments on the thread.

            i assume the medicals will be bad and we’ll move on to other depth options. the negativity about doing some due diligence on the guy just really caught me off guard i guess.

    • jsbrendog (returns) says:

      thank you. seriously. people are acting like he will be needed to be the #1 starter and is getting a 3 yr deal with lucrative payouts.

      for god sakes the comments here are just becoming unbearable.

  13. KevinP says:

    Armchair GM’s still somehow think they know more than people in the business who do this for a living.

    • Slugger27 says:

      i think we all realize the men running the yankees are a lot smarter and more knowledgable about baseball than we are

      but that doesnt mean they dont make mistakes. plenty of ppl were upset at the time of the aj signing, and it looks like those ppl were right. constructive criticism is part of being a fan, nothing wrong with it. plus its fun to discuss.

      however, if your comment was to make fun of the bridge-jumpers about cashman reading medicals on freddy garcia, then by all means carry on

  14. Fair Weather Freddy says:

    Would much rather take a look at Chein Ming Wang

  15. Goosemania says:

    Wheres Sidney Ponson when you need him?

  16. Mark L says:

    I envision Andy coming back for 1 yr/$13 million and the Yanks making the 5th starting slot a competition between Nova and a veteran righty (Garcia, Bush) or decent lefty (Maholm, Gorzelanny) while gambling on an upside arm like Wang, Sheets, Penny or Duchscherer.

  17. Josh S. says:

    Isn’t signing Freddy Garcia almost like having another version of Javy Vazquez? No thank you.

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      Don’t worry Garcia won’t be asked to carry the load just like Javy wasn’t. Remember Javy was suppose to excel his 2nd time around because the pressure was off him….oh wait

      • FIPster Doofus says:

        His arm died. Javy sans velocity is a disaster.

        • The Big City of Dreams says:

          He was still bad though and many ppl felt it wasn’t wise to bring him back to the club. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he was reacquired but it just didn’t work out.

          • FIPster Doofus says:

            I thought acquiring Javy was a great move at the time, given his history as a 30-plus-start, high-strikeout innings eater, but no one could have foreseen his velocity issues. Vazquez found a groove in late May and was arguably NYY’s best starter for a two-month stretch from then to the end of July. Largely because of a dead arm, the wheels came off thereafter.

            • The Big City of Dreams says:

              Yea I had the same high hopes especially when we gave him up for that package. It’s crazy how the game of baseball works out.

  18. mike says:

    I think Cashman wants to quit his day job to rapel off buildings, WTF

  19. Yea I said it ! says:

    I’ll take Pedro over Freddy, Please no I beg you, please, pretty please.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      I would too, if for no other reason than the fact that Pedro is one of my favorite players ever (despite being a longtime member of the Red Sox).

  20. Chris says:

    I have no problem with this, since I can’t imagine him getting more than a minor league deal. It’s not like he’d be assured of a spot in the rotation or anything. With a lack of FA starters and viable trade candidates it’s a not a bad idea to throw some deals like this around and hope one sticks and provides value.

  21. gonesunshine 2010 says:

    no yankees have all this money but very team is beating then to the punch..

  22. solamon says:

    forget about garcia lets trade for felix hernades

  23. Xstar7 says:

    Hahahahaha, all you guys don’t know yet that Freddy will be 8-7 with a 3.21 ERA through 17 starts 12 of which were quality starts and will be one of the Yankees most consistent pitchers, hahahahahahaha.

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