Open Thread: Jeter’s pad

January 22, 2011 by Mike Axisa 130 Comments

92925_jeterhousejpg — (Photo Credit: Michael Egger, TBO.com)

That up there is Derek Jeter‘s now completed mansion on Davis Islands in Tampa. Here’s the construction photos we saw two summers ago, and here’s the east side spread Jeter is trying to unload for $20M. The new place sits on three lots of land that the Cap’n purchased for $7.7M back in the day, and the house itself cost another $7.7M. Seven bedrooms, nine bathrooms, and a Hillsborough County high 30,000 square feet make the place about as big as a Best Buy. From what I understand, it’s actually a pretty modest neighborhood and Jeter’s house sticks out like a sore thumb, but correct me if I’m wrong. The photo comes from TBO.com, and if you click through you’ll see some more photos of the place. It’s good to be king (of New York baseball), eh?

Anyways, once you pick your jaw off the floor, use this as your open thread. The Devils already played, but the Rangers, Knicks, and Nets are all in action tonight. You all know what to do, so have at it.

Avi

OMG! That trade Anaheim just made is the worst ever! Mike’s right, The Angels have been dying for a 3B. Arod for Weaver and Haren. Heck I’d do it for just one of them. Heck I’d do it for Brandon Wood!
- Avi
  
  Seriously, A-rod’s got a lot more appeal than Wells and they need a 3rd baseman much more than an outfielder.
- http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
  
  Heck I’d do it for Brandon Wood!
  
  O_O I know A-Rod’s contract is gross but… no way. At least he’s still a productive, valuable player.
  - Avi
    
    If you can get rid of A-rod’s contract you do it. Arod’s my favorite player ever, but it won’t cost $29M to replace his production. He’s also likely to regress and or get hurt over the next 7 years..
    - http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten
      
      And after we trade A-Rod, our third baseman is… who?
      - Avi
        
        We start looking for one.
        
        mike c
        
        we’ll also lose more games than we would have. who are we supposed to go get to play 3B? this is crazy talk… players like a-rod don’t just grow on trees and sign discount contracts… look at the deal beltre signed. and if the yankees can afford a $200M+ payroll why do you care about what a-rod gets paid? the yankees can still afford to get any player they really want at any time
        
        Avi
        
        Arod’s contract is likely to be the single biggest liability in the sport over the next 7 years. Crazy would be having the opportunity to unload it and not taking it.
        
        Carl
        
        Seriously. I mean it prevented them from trying to give Cliff Lee 150 million.
    - OldYanksFan
      
      Well…. that’s true. But what will it cost to have a Yankee who beaks Ruth’s HR record? Or maybe Aaron’s record? Or maybe Bonds’ record?
      
      Do you really think the Yankees gave ARod a 10 year contract for his production?
      
      If ARod passes Bonds, his contract will be considered the best in history.
      
      Do you really think the Yankees gave ARod a 10 year contract for his production?
radnom

Its certainly nicer than my apartment but am I the only one who thinks it looks pretty terrible? Especially the close up shots at TBO.com….its almost like they made a half hearted attempt at going for a stone castle look but it just comes across awkward.
- Avi
  
  Yeah, I thought castle too. It’s huge and I’m sure amazingly luxurious but I don’t love the style.
Brooklyn Ed

just curious; what’s the best major league comparison for Warren, Phelps, Noesi, and Banuelos?
- Avi
  
  I’m gonna go a little nuts here and say Johan for Manny B. Banuelos doesn’t have Johan’s breaking ball yet but the Fastball, change, left-handedness and size are all good comps for Johan.
  - http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
    
    I think a lesser version of Johan is fair. Johan’s changeup is/was world class, one of the two or three best of the last 25 years or so. Banuelos has a good change, but it’s not that that.
    - Ivan
      
      How bout Ricky Romero as a comparison.
    - Avi
      
      Cole Hamels is not a terrible comp for Banuelos either.
    - Jess
      
      Johan didn’t really get a feel for his changeup until he was 23. So Manny has a lot of time.
- YankeesJunkie
  
  Warren is Aceves with a better fastball. However, Warren has four pitches and knows how to use them. Not necessarily a starter in the AL East, but definitely will contribute quality innings in the major league level.
  - mbonzo
    
    I think Warren has a sick slow curveball he throws early in ABs.
    - Avi
      
      Warren is a fastball/slider guy from everything I’ve read. Between him, Noesi and Phelps he probably has the best breaking ball.
      - mbonzo
        
        He’s got 2-seam and 4-seam fastball, curveball, slider, cutter.
        
        His curveball is supposed to be very good but hard to for him to command. Sounds like Burnett.
        
        Avi
        
        Everything I’ve read has his breaking ball as fringy to average. Not like Burnett’s curveball which is elite. I’ll try to dig up a decent scouting report on him here.
        
        Avi
        
        This is from BA in their league top 20 rankings.
        He succeeds by pitching off a heavy 90-93 mph fastball that allows him to keep the ball in the park (two homers in 81 innings) and get plenty of grounders (2.18 groundout/airout ratio).
        
        Warren’s slow curveball was his second-best pitch in the FSL, while scouts in the Eastern League preferred is cutter-type slider.
- mbonzo
  
  Well the only guy of the 4 that at best projects to be an ace is Banuelos, but Warren and Phelps could (IMO) if theres a miracle. Right now the last two project to be middle of the rotation starters.
  
  As for comparisons, I’ve heard people compare Banuelos to Felix Hernandez.
  - Avi
    
    I don’t see how Banuelos compares to Felix at all.
    - http://www.retire21.com first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21
      
      They are both Hispanic and throw baseball for a living. That’s all I have.
    - mbonzo
      
      Besides the hispanic thing, Banuelos is expected to have the same speed fastball, and he has a similar disappearing changeup to Hernandez. Both were primarily fastball, changeup, curveball guys coming out of the minors too. Hernanez has since worked in a slider.
    - mike c
      
      banuelos supposedly has a high 97 MPH fastball and he’s a very tall lefty. if he can start commanding those pitches for good strikes he could very well be an awesome pitcher
      - YankeesJunkie
        
        He is like 5 11
      - http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
        
        Banuelos is the exact opposite of very tall.
        
        mike c
        
        yeah, mixed up w brackman. banuelos isn’t a big guy, but he is a lefty and apparently his fastball has been very impressive. i’d like to catch him in trenton this year if possible
  - Brooklyn Ed
    
    Thanks guys.
Yankeefan91 Arod Fan

seriously do rich people really need nine bathrooms and seven bedrooms. do they think of the poor who wish to only have a room and 1 bathroom wow.
- Brian
  
  you think of the poor? that makes you a communist!
  - Yankeefan91 Arod Fan
    
    well yea i do think of the poor
- Esteban
  
  They can do whatever they want with those 9 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms. They earned the money, it’s theirs to do whatever they want with it.
  - Yankeefan91 Arod Fan
    
    I Noe its there money but wth are u gonna do wit 9 bedrooms remember today u have it u never Noe what can happen tomorrow.
- fire levine
  
  I don’t see how jeter having 9 bathrooms has anything to do with poor
- tommydee2000
  
  Even if I had his money, I don’t see myself in a house like that. You would need a staff to keep it clean, and staff=no privacy=tell all books=why have the money?
  - OMG Bagels!
    
    There are things called confidentiality agreements and everyone has one with their staff unless they’re idiots.
Will

Is that a Prius in his driveway? Somehow I doubt it’s his.
- mike c
  
  he’s got an edge
  - http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.
    
    i swear, one more time…
long time listener

I picked the wrong profession. I should’ve been a super-rich athlete.
http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

That place probably costs a ton to keep in good condition
- mike c
  
  and air condition
Icxe

Why Tampa?
- http://www.retire21.com first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21
  
  Weather, no state tax and close to work.
UWS

The place that’s for sale looks so…sterile.
http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

I’ve never understood houses tat have more bathrooms than bedrooms.

Also, I hope that condo has blackout shades on the windows.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  Really? I’m sure they’re not all full bathroom, but I can see having more bathrooms than bedrooms.
  - http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten
    
    Yeah I mean I could see having a 2 bed/2.5 bath house if each bedroom has a connecting bathroom so there’s a half bath for when company is over. But generally why would you need more bathrooms than people living in the house?
    
    This question is rhetorical, just like why would a person without kids need 7 bedrooms and 9 bathrooms?
    - mike c
      
      the pool has it’s own bathroom and i’m sure the movie theater or whatever other crazy room is in there needs it’s own BR too
    - Esteban
      
      I’ve always had the same question, but it seems to me that super mansions always have more bathrooms than bedrooms. Maybe because it’s so huge and you want a bathroom convenient at all times, and not just near bedrooms?
    - mbonzo
      
      So his women don’t run into each other. That would be awkward.
      - fire levine
        
        “So his women don’t run into each other. That would be awkward.”
        
        I laughed.
    - Simon
      
      No it makes sense to have maybe 1-2 extra bathrooms in a house like Jeter’s. Wouldn’t you want a bathroom near a game room/media room? Or a library sort of room?
    - http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist
      
      Gatorade. Part of his endorsement deal was a lifetime supply of the stuff, and he’s trying to get his money’s worth.
    - OldYanksFan
      
      ARod has a lot of stuff when he sleeps over?
      - http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
        
        a winner is this
- Poopy Pants
  
  Yeah, who needs a bathroom near the kitchen or living room where people hang out? or in a basement? Sheesh!
http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

Also, I don’t get having a huge house and no backyard. Especially in Florida.
- Esteban
  
  I think the dock will make up for that.
- cheddar
  
  Seriously… How about some property, if only as a buffer?
  - cheddar
    
    “The family had a lot of buffers.”
- Monteroisdinero
  
  The back yard will be the Yacht he docks. He can drive up to Legends if he wants to have a catch..10 minutes away.
Monteroisdinero

In a word, poor taste for our modest/team first, Captain. The guy is super in so many ways but nobody needs a house like that. It’s his right but it is over the top.

I heard his apt in NY isn’t selling. Something about no range.
- Esteban
  
  Who knows what he ‘needs’. Do you have more than you technically need to survive?
  - Monteroisdinero
    
    Sorry. I guess I overlooked Minka’s needs. Can’t fault Jeets for 30,000 sq ft or just about anything else. Especially on this site. As one of the most famous athletes in the world, he has to keep up with his peers. I understand.
    - Esteban
      
      Why should you ‘fault’ him? Why does this bother you?
- http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist
  
  I don’t have any issue with the size of the place, he’s earned the money and can spend it as he wishes.
  
  My only criticism would be the place has the charm of a 12th century British fortress. The entire thing is made of stone. All its missing is a tower and vat of boiling oil.
  - OldYanksFan
    
    Christ! I hope it doesn’t sink!
    I have to guess the water table is at about 6 inches.
    Glad we paid the guy $51m.
    He obviously needs the money.
- Sean C
  
  The man has made millions of dollars, I don’t understand how it’s any of your concern how he spends it. He could by 30 Bugatti Veyron 16.4’s if he felt like it. It’s none of our business what he does. But, well, damn that’s a huge house.
Esteban

I don’t know, but that house to the left in the picture above looks pretty gigantic too and not very modest.
- OldYanksFan
  
  That’s Jeter’s maid’s quarters.
  - fire levine
    
    “That’s Jeter’s maid’s quarters.”
    
    I laughed again.
http://www.retire21.org first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

Jeter needs some tips on home decor from the pro. Just look at the entrance to Mo’s house.

http://bit.ly/191rXk

Now there is a man who knows how to build a place.
- DF
  
  Comment of the offseason
- Poopy Pants
  
  “Now there is a man who knows how to build a place.”
  
  But not a safe pool area.
http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

On the heels of Brock’s fine dissertation on ‘grit’ I’d like to solicit some help on something I’ve been working on. I may even spin this off into a T-Shirt or a post over at TYU (or both). Here it is:

YOU’RE TOO STUPID TO WATCH BASEBALL IF

-You think games in April should be played like the 7th game of the World Series

-You think relievers are more valuable than starters

-You attack an umpire for blowing a call after you’ve watched it from 8 different angles in slow motion

-You think the best team is the whoever wins the World Series

-You have ever referred to a favorite player as “gritty” or “gutty”

– You have ever uttered the phrase “That guy there, he’s just a ‘baseball player’. ”

-You believe in curses

-You have ever uttered the phrase “He’s due”

That’s what I have so far. Any others?
- http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
  
  I’ve totally said “he’s due” like a million times throughout my life :(
  - http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS
    
    So have I :(
    - http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist
      
      OK, fine. I may have to eliminate that one. There is some merit to it, with the luck/randomness of the game and whatnot.
      
      Again, anyone have any other ideas?
      - http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
        
        you’ve ever said “the season is over, this team’s going nowhere” in like mid-May
        
        http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
        
        you think Scott Brosius > A-Rod
        
        http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS
        
        That ties into the gritty and gutty one. I was going to say you think David Eckstein is a good player, but that’s the same thing.
        
        Monteroisdinero
        
        Eckstein=short=gritty
        
        OldYanksFan
        
        You think the YANKEES SUCK after they lost a game and are now only 3 games ahead of the Division.
        
        http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS
        
        Bonus points if said game is in April
        
        http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist
        
        I think I’ve got one
        
        -You’ve ever wanted to fire a manager during the playoffs.
  - http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist
    
    BTW-Part of what’s funny about this list is we’ve all been there at one point of our life. So some of it is laughing at others, and other parts are the nervous laughter of us saying “oh geez, I hope nobody remembers me saying that”
- Sheepmeister
  
  -You think and commentator from Fox or ESPN gives meaningful insight into the game.
- OMG Bagels!
  
  You’ve used the term, “These guys are professional ballplayers.”
http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

http://miamibeachluxuryrealest.....00000.html

A-Rod’s home in Coral Gables.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  I like that place better than Jeter’s. He’s got a backyard with actual grass and some buffer space around the house.
  - http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist
    
    I do too, I like the spanish feel and terra cotta roof. That may be every bit as huge, but it still feels like a home to me. Derek’s seems like a fortress.
  - http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H
    
    A-Rod>>>>>Jeter
  - Monteroisdinero
    
    And he only lost 3.5 million on the sale. I like it better than St. Jetersburg too.
    - http://historyandfutility.wordpress.com The Oberamtmann
      
      What’s the point of buying and building these places if they’re just going to sell them again in a few years? Did A-Rod need to downsize?
      
      Btw – Didn’t A-Rod buy his place and Jeter build his? I prefer A-Rod’s just because it actually fits the climate, so it actually belongs in Florida.
      - http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist
        
        You may remember that Alex got divorced around 2008.
Avi

Seriously, that bed in his condo should go to the Hall of Fame. Seen the most action evah!
http://twitter.com/nebkreb Nebkreb

The Dark Knight is on TV. Your argument is invalid.
- http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS
  
  http://projectkickass.com/wp-c....._robot.jpg
Monteroisdinero

Any chance we can listen to the bleacher “roll call”? Would be great to see each player react to his name being called. Love the Gardy muscle pose. It could come on every time you click on RAB! I might prefer Bob Shepherd’s voice but Jeter has that too.
Joey

Tiger Wood’s new pad puts that to shame! Lol
Xstar7

Knicks lost again. Fuck
Mantle28

Few Scenarios for trades and if you would do them:

Montero for Strasburg(with the curent injury)

Montero for Bryce Harper

Montero for The pirates 1st pick this year (AKA Anthony Rendon)

Hughes and Montero for Kershaw

Arod for nothing(a team takes him and his contract)
- http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H
  
  Yes.
  No.
  No.
  No.
  No.
  - http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig
    
    I’d trade Montero for Harper, if Harper moved back behind the dish.
    - http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H
      
      That’s a tough one. I think Montero is more of a sure thing major leaguer though.
      
      And if I was about 25 teams I’d let A-Rod go, but not if I’m the Yankees.
- http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
  
  probably not, no, no, maybe, no. But ask me how I feel about the last one in four years or so.
  - http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H
    
    So you’d rate Kershaw that much higher than Strasburg?
    - http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig
      
      She just likes lefties.
    - http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
      
      It’s more I want to see Strasburg recover and prove he can stay healthy on a team that is not the Yankees. It’s probably another one of those “ask me and see how I feel in three/four years” things, though with something like Montero for Strasburg that entirely defeats the point of this theoretical question.
      
      YOU ARE VERY FUNNY TOM. =P
Rob NY

I don’t begrudge the guy having the biggest house in the world if he wants it. He earned it. But wtf do you do with all that house?
- Accent Shallow
  
  Concur.
- http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig
  
  Have parties? Who knows.
- http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa
  
  I assume he’s sublet each of the five bedrooms at $15,000 a month…
  - Accent Shallow
    
    This reality show needs to happen.
- Mike HC
  
  Jeter is obviously a very private guy. When you are that private, I assume you would want everything you could possibly need/want at your house. It seems like that house covers it.
  
  Also, you can throw parties and let loose without having to worry about camera’s, you can have friends, family, people stay over for long periods, and not even necessarily know they are there. The house is monstrous.
freedy

no back yard
- Poopy Pants
  
  Yeah, it’s the only thing that bothers me about the house. It’s just weird to not have any yard.
  - http://historyandfutility.wordpress.com The Oberamtmann
    
    When he has kids, where will he play catch with them?
    - Monteroisdinero
      
      On the turf field in the basement. Looks like a pretty good long toss place and good practice in keeping those throws low.
Greg

I never understood the deal with having a big house and no yard. I grew up in a very modest house, but the yard was literally 40 times the square footage of the house. I could understand maybe having a yard a fourth of that, but anything less is just weird to me. Keep in mind, I am talking about when you have an actual house and can afford to have a yard. Obviously doesn’t apply to condos/apartments and areas where lots are all super small.
bonestock94

I think he’ll get over the lack of a backyard when he’s having sex with a model and using GPS to navigate his house.
http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

Oh, the yard thing. Don’t worry, he bought central park. And is airlifting it to Tampa.
OMG Bagels!

He spent his summers on Greenwood Lake at his grandmother’s. He built her a new place which is enormous by GL standards but extremely modest compared to richer communities. But it has a pool on the lake and no backyard. So maybe that’s what he was basing it on.
MOMO

meh. looks like a catering hall