Game 45: Just win series
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The Yankees have won just one of their last four series, and that was the two-game sweep of the Orioles a few days ago. They haven’t really been sticking to the “just win series” mantra of late, but they could make it two series wins in a row today against the Mets. David Robertson and Joba Chamberlain could probably use the day off, so lots of runs and/or a dominant performance out of Ivan Nova would be pretty awesome. Here’s the lineup…
Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Jorge Posada, DH
Brett Gardner, LF
Chris Dickerson, RF – obviously, he’s been cleared to play
Frankie Cervelli, C
Ivan Nova, SP
The final game of the series can be seen on both YES and SNY locally plus TBS nationally. Enjoy the game.
Rafael Soriano Update: The Eighth Inning Guy™ played catch today and seems to be recovering well from his inflamed elbow. Yay.
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Russell Martin should catch [i]every[/i] game.
He really shouldn’t catch every day. A major reason he had such a big drop off after his first few seasons was he probably caught way too many games.
He needs to be rested regularly if the Yankees expect him to remain productive.
Oh literal Jim!
randy hundley agrees
yanks rotation, in order of how excited/interested/compelled to watch i get when their spot comes up:
colon
nova
garcia
cc
burnett
what a bizarre season so far…
Colon
AJ
CC/Garcia
Nova
I think that’s about right, except I would replace Garcia with CC
CC
Colon
AJ
Garcia
Nova
CC
Colon
Nova
AJ
Garcia
I actually spoke to Dickerson at the game last night, right before first pitch. He said his head is fine and he feels better, which is obviously good news.
“OK, honey, we’ll do whatever productive thing it is that you wanted us to do this Sunday that involves me putting on pants and leaving the house, just after the Yankee game!”
Isn’t it nice knowing that Nova can give you more than 5 innings?
<blockquote cite="Isn’t it nice
knowinghoping that Nova can give you more than 5 innings?”>clearly my mastery of HTML isn’t what it was when I was 15.
You can’t predict sportswriting: Fangraphs was mentioned in the New York Post today, talking about Cano’s hacktastic ways this season.
The Cone Effect
The table is set for Nova to have a good game today.
The Mets lineup is just pathetic once you get past Beltran.
Don’t forget Yankee Killer Justin Turner!
Gardner, so good in the field
I love how ESPN NY is calling Grandy’s bat a blessing and a curse! If Pedroia was off to the same start they’d be all “ZOMG THE LASER SHOWS GETTING ANOTHER MVP!!!111!”
Why the fuck would anyone voluntarily subject themselves to reading ESPN New York?
I really don’t get it. Why do people keep posting about that hacktastic piece of shit web-site? I can get better sportswriting from elementary school kids.
My first time reading it was yesterday when someone on RAB linked to an article hating on all the HRs the Yanks are hitting and how Grandy being the HR leader on the team is disturbing the “balance” of the team. Verbal vomit, IMO. There is better journalism on barstoolsports.com than ESPN NY.
At least barstoolsports is sorta funny and has pictures of hot chicks. What does ESPNNY offer?
Yeah, I enjoy barstool. Their journalism integrity is of a much high caliber than ESPN NY. No joke, and it is supposed to be funny, unlike the non-intentional humor on the NY site. Why even bother with such awful articles on ESPN NY?
Word, I don’t know if I’ve ever gone to ESPN NY to read about baseball without seeing a link saying “look how stupid this writer is”
Jeterian!
Thats our captain!!
SMFH @ Jeter.
This is just getting ridiculous
Homeruns Baby…
there’s #16
god we’re gonna lose because Granderson is TEARING THIS TEAM APART, just go back to being a doubles guy and let 3-4-5 drive you in Curtis.
grandersmash!
Holy shit is Granderson good.
Grandyman!
Tooooooooooooooooooo many homers
Someone needs to tell Grandy to stop that, he’s not doing what he was brought in to do and it’s a curse to this team!
/Sherman’d
/Johnette Howard’d
/Kernan’d
/Idiot’d
On this date in 1961, Marris and Mantle had a combined 17 HR.
Grandy is coming for them
Curtis is GRANDER…son!!
Granderson with another shot to the right field Granderstands. Ho hum. Another day, another Granderson homer.
Another HR for Granderson! Man that sucks!
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6574974
d00d. What. The. Fuck?
http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/
Please sign this petition to place Curtis in the clean-up spot!!
Please sign this petition
/Rose’d
Nice homer, Grandyman.
We should of won on Friday, though. We can’t just win series, we have to sweep them. Boston is coming, and we could of buried them but we didn’t. Not capitalizing on opportunities you could of capitalized on always comes back to haunt you.
(h/t S.Roads)
Y’know, I actually know a rather intelligent guy (passed all of the CAS actuarial exams by age 24, now works at an investment bank in Chicago) who still says ‘could of’, ‘should of’, etc., non-ironically.
I’ve corrected him probably 1000 times. Odd.
By ‘says’, I mean ‘types’.
nice job with the effort, Alex
What’s more exciting? Granderson and Bautista’s HR race? OR Cano and Cabrera’s race to worst P/PA?
Since the first pitch was a strike Robbie realized he HAD to swing at the next pitch because it MUST be a strike too.
Lol Jeter’s range is so bad…
At least it wasn’t, “past a diving Jeter.” He didn’t even bother.
Nova sux. a hit TO a guy hitting .230!!!!
I blame the SS.
would it be considered cheating to get Jeter a hoveround
mets fans really to stop with the little league park excuses every time the yanks hit a homerun
Yep. Both teams are playing in the same park today. If it’s so easy to hit HRs in YSIII, the Mets should have no problem doing it.
And of Curtis’s 15 HRs on the season, only two were ‘cheapies’, and only one of those was at Yankee Stadium (the other was in Fenway).
these are some cheap ass base hits
Pheww, got out Justin Turner.
Come on Nova, dammit
Hahaha…nice baserunning by Fartinez
man you just can’t get beat by Willie fucking Harris
If Nunez was playing SS and Austin Jackson was playing center this woulda been a 1-2-3 inning.
/Nomaas’ed
“If that f***** Nunez was playing SS and that n***** Austin Jackson was playing center this woulda been a 1-2-3 inning.
/NoMaas’d
Fixed.
what an inning
Learn how to field your fucking position Nova.
The death of a thousand cuts.
this is pretty terrible.
terrible pitch
Come on Nova, stop the Bleeding.
And this has been our problem all year, when the other team can manufacture runs and we can’t.
Exactly. Smallball. Manufacturing runs when the home run isnt there.
The homerun “isn’t there” for the Mets because most of the Mets can’t hit them. As such, the have scored 43 fewer runs than the Yankees.
Curtis Granderson just “manufactured” a run a little bit ago.
He, Martin, Tex, and ARod just manufactured a bunch of runs last night, as well.
Yankees Runs Scored 2011: 226
Mets Runs Scored 2011: 183
Let’s stop this HR vs. manufactured runs nonsene. Runs are runs, no matter how you score them. And the Yankees have scored the third most in baseball.
The problem is that they score 15 in one and zero in the other. If they just scored 7 in the two games they would probably win both games
I forgot that each team is given its run total at the beginning of the year and then asked to divide it equally amongst 162 games. What are the Yankees doing?!
The problem is that they score 15 in one and zero in the other.
That’s not a Yankee problem, that’s a baseball problem. Every offense has nights off from time to time where they fail to score 3 or more runs, even the best offenses in baseball history.
No team ever scores 5+ runs every single night. It doesn’t happen.
Exactly. The UTTERLY DOMINANT 1998 Yankees:
Scored 0 runs 5 times,
Scored 1 runs 10 times,
Scored 2 runs 9 times,
Scored 3 runs 21 times,
Scored 4 runs 15 times,
Scored 5 runs 25 times,
Scored 6 runs 15 times,
Scored 7 runs 14 times,
Scored 8 runs 11 times,
Scored 9 runs 10 times,
Scored 10 runs 8 times,
Scored 11 runs 6 times,
Scored 12 runs 4 times,
Scored 13 runs 2 times,
Scored 14 runs 4 times,
Scored 15 runs 2 times,
Scored 16 runs 0 times,
Scored 17 runs 1 times.
Holy shit were they good.
Runs are runs, no matter how you score them. And the Yankees have scored the third most in baseball.
Runs are runs, no matter how you score them. And the Yankees have scored the third most in baseball.
Runs are runs, no matter how you score them. And the Yankees have scored the third most in baseball.
Threepeated for emphasis.
Gotta love those pitchers that can’t strike anyone out. Two two-strike hits this inning (at least).
Exactly. The # of pitchers who’ve been successful with K/9 less than 5 is a VERY VERY SHORT LIST.
And those who ARE successful with low Ks are -extreme- groundballers.
I think it’s time to think about warming up Noesi, no? Or is he too tired from Thursday?
You can’t let guys like Willie Harris and Jason Priddle beat you.
Sick of Nova already, my patience with him is tissue paper-thin
nova has been great over his past like 5 starts.
YEAH BUT HES NOT GREAT IN THIS ONE HE SHOULD OF BEEN GREAT IN THIS ONE HE SUCKS
Well, We’ll need the bullpen today.
nice defense this inning, christ.
seriously this is out of control now fuck
Ridiculous. This defense is laughable
A comedy of errors and weak hits this inning.
Thats on Jeter
U gotta catch that Jeter, come on.
Jeter just straight up whiffed on that. Perfect throw, he was out.
Always an excuse from the guys in the booth when Jeter makes a bad play.
Cone said Jeter should of have it.
No, Cone said Jeter should have had it.
Not according to RAB.
Categories: Whimsy
Said Jeter will tell you he should have had it.
That one’s on Jeter
what are we, the red sox???
lol cervelli
granderson often forgets how many out there are
And after an inning and a half, Buffalo leads Scranton 3-1
Remember when we lost 2/3 to Pawtuckett last year?
I still want the Jorge figurine. It’s glorious!
June 12, 2011: Jorge Posada Figurine Night
June 13, 2011: Jorge Posada is DFA’d
Your keyboard to God’s ears!
Then it’ll be a collectors item.
What if a left handed pitcher on the opposing team forces Jorge on the bench all game? I’d laugh.
Being benched on your own bobblehead night? That would have to be a first.
Posada .318/.483/.409 over last 2 weeks. Apparently not dead yet.
I hate how that the Mets bloop their way to a 3 run rally and the Yankees actually hit the ball farther than 100 feet yet the Yankees are down by two.
thats because the mets play the game the right way and the yankees don’t.
ESPN’d
This game is somehow rigged.
Ugh, I’m supposed to be working on a District Manager training program, but I’m addicted to all things Yankee baseball. I have a problem with addiction.
it’s like that thing where a bunch of scrubs hit another scrub while a bunch of old men watch
/stefan’d
fuck me, I can’t believe that was foul.
Damn, I thought that was gone.
Please don’t GIDP, please don’t GIDP, please don’t GIDP…
On the bright side, Pelfrey isn’t fooling anyone.
That is true. but neither is Nova. We got to get Pelfrey now.
But who’s gonna stop Yankees batters from fooling themselves?
Isn’t this such an amazing game, just think if those balls were just inches to the side, the game is tied.
Sterling’d
Baseball: It’s a game of inches.
#theNFLisstilllockedout
It would be cool if Gardner could steal bases.
We need to get Rickey Henderson in training camp to teach the art of stealing bases.
“Reynolds? Henderson here…. You ought to be ashamed! Rickey would’ve had 60 by the BREAK!”
Nova and pelfry have thrown the same number of pitchers with nova throwing two more strikes. Nova has one less baserunner and the yankees are somehow down 2.
my Pendleton sense is tingling
And Nova gets right back into the stretch.
Noesi time if Nova doesnt get his shit together
I wonder if he’s good to go, pitched 5 on wed
fk this game is over
Because games are now over after 2 innings.
Troll harder.
This defense is embarrassing itself constantly.
That was a tough play. I’m giving them a pass on that one
Tough or not, way too many makeable plays not being made.
Man, it’s kind of cruel to show the Game 5 clip with Leiter there. But he took it well.
this is getting ridiculous, he isn’t fooling anyone.
nova tipping his pitches? they look like they know when the curve is coming
No, the curve isn’t working. It’s either hanging or diving into the dirt.
let’s hit for half an hour
/singleton’d
They’re due for another botched double play ball, it’s been like five batters.
So, Silva’s got what another 2 starts before he’s activated and takes Nova’s spot?
That’s what we said about Millwood, and then he imploded and Nova stepped his game up.
Maybe we should keep signing washed up old starters to minor league deals to keep Nova on his toes. I’ll call Tom Glavine and Jamie Moyer.
Jamie Moyer ruined my dream of seeing a 50 year old pitcher.
You already saw it. It was called “El Duque”.
Ew. Noesi has to be higher on the depth chart. At least I hope he is.
Switch Noesi’s and Nova’s roles
To be fair to Nova, his BABIP in this game is .500 (6 for 12). Yeah, he should be getting more K’s, but he hasn’t walked anyone.
So….Charlie Morton? Hiroki Kuroda?
Not buying what Charlie Morton is selling at all.
You’re not buying a 1.12 SO/BB pitcher? You must be crazy.
He’s the pitcher version of Justin Turner.
What happened to Justin Turner? How can he possibly be 0 for 2??
On SNY he was described as having a “magic RBI bat”.
When the scouting report finally catches up to him, he’ll be DFA’d. Wait, this is the Mets. They’ll just make him the NEW face of the team, after David Wright is traded to the Pirates for Ross Ohlendorf.
Way to work out of it Nova. He can still have a quality start if he settles down.
I’ve never seen so many people whine about a pitcher who could still earn a quality start. Pitching has clearly spoiled us this year.
Quality Starts dont mean jack.
/facepalm
6 innings 3 runs. Every pitcher should be able to do that.
If you were told Nova would rock a quality start every game I guess you’d be pissed because that doesn’t mean jack?
I’m just saying the statistic of a quality start is very weak and doesnt give much information.
You’re the one preemptively calling Nova’s start disastrous after 3 IP. Which statistic is weak again?
I’m not questioning Nova’s start. I’m questioning the value of the statistic “quality start”.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....nt-2086060
6 innings 3 runs. Every pitcher should be able to do that.
That’s a 4.50 ERA. Seeing as how 4.50 has been roughly the league average ERA for most of the past decade, it seems like about HALF of all pitchers are incapable of doing just that.
The AL average is a 3.86 ERA this year. A “quality start” is anything but quality these days.
Any way to find the ERA of 5th starters. Pretty sure 4.50 ERA is above average.
Just two scant years ago, that AL average ERA was 4.45.
2010 and 2011 have been marked downturns in offense. For most of the 2000s, the average ERA was near 4.50.
Other things that don’t mean jack:
Declaring that a pitcher’s start is either a good one or a bad one following 3 innings.
Nova could easily settle in and put up four scoreless frames, and suddenly he’s got a 7 IP, 3 R start and all the bitching seems silly in retrospect.
no, people are spoiled by the championships and assume that because the yankees want to win a championship, any game that the yankees don’t win 10-0 with 5 HRs and 5 “manufactured” runs is a failure.
There’s only one way to win a title: Win every single game with at least 7+ runs scored. And bury all 4 divisional opponents by May.
If we’re not up 25+ games by Bastille Day, with 6 legit Cy Young candidates, the season is a failure.
True dat!
Bastille Day?!?!?!! COMMIE!!!
90mph on a friggin tee and a pop to short have to do better
Wow Tex is leading the world in infield popups
Do we have to just accept the bazillion pop ups from Tex because of his pronounced uppercut?
Tex as a Yankee: .272/.373/.524 (134+), 11.3 bWAR (and counting)
Do we have to just accept the bazillion pop ups from Tex because of his pronounced uppercut?
Yes.
Him sure foolin’ ARod in that there AB.
We desperately need an average hitter so that we can have people on base when we hit home runs.
/checks stats
Yep, the Yankees are second in the league in OBP. Getting on base isn’t a problem.
But it seems like Jeter and Swisher and Posada are the only ones up with men on base.
Key word: “seems”
Don’t forget they have the 3rd lowest BABIP in baseball. Pretty incredible.
Never good when Willie Harris is 2 for 2
Ronny Paulino has a HUGE head.
The Pridie of the Mets!
Ahhhh, Cano.
Cano…this is ridiculous
He didn’t exactly bust it down the line either.
jesus christ, comedy of errors.
Arg!
AGGGGHHHHHHHH
Real nice, Jorge.
Worst … baserunner … ever
wtf Jorge?
Fuck the figurine night.
Make it a figurine of Laura Posada. Sell-out, baby!
Can we even get our hands on that amount of plastic in time?
Very Very Very Stupid
Lol @ Posada.
jesus please
“Jesus on the mainline, call em up, call em up…”
It’s a church song, check it out.
Such a horrendous baserunner, the worst part about his baserunning is that he thinks he’s fast
Jesus Christ, the first base coach needs to body block Posada from trying for a double there.
love Jorge being aggresive
Sure, gamble on the extra base. After all the game is tied at 3-3 right?
That’s tough. Those balls are falling in finally, posada isn’t that bad.
At least Jorge’s swinging the bat better. Just missed a HR last AB, ball in the gap this AB. Hey, Jorge’s a bad baserunner, but if he’s making baserunning mistakes, that means he’s getting on base.
If only momentarily…..
Fu king Posada still the dumbest player in my lifetime.
John Kruk says hello.
WAT
Jesus Christ how the fuck was that a strike.
Nice strikezone. Hope Nova gets the strike call on pitches in the RHB box.
Given the news that Posada would not last 24 hours if he was released according to some executives, the trade market might be availible.
Where did you read that?
Read it somewhere. Trying to find source.
no one would pick up posada at his salary
And don’t expect the Yankees to subsidize a cent of it, either.
Since it makes sense to give up a veteran who may turn it around, even if he just hit’s .230-.250 it’s better than paying someone to take posada for an average triple A player. No thanks.
I don’t know why people are so shocked by this. Posada still has shown power this year, and has been turning it around the last few weeks offensively. Unlike Swisher, he has looked better at the plate consistently since he bottomed out around .145 with his average.
Wait what????
Pathetic inning
Pelfrey has been terrible today, and all they have to show for it is 1 run.
Same nonsense as usual with this offense. They work his pitch count early on, then change their mind and all go up and swing at the first pitch the next few innings and bail him out. Pelfrey has nothing to strike you out, why would you be afraid of going deep in a count with him?
As soon as this team falls behind, they all start to press. They either go up there swinging at the first pitch or hit lazy fly balls trying to tie it up with one swing. Pelfrey has been very hittable today, but they can’t string together base hits because they all are trying to tie it up once they get a guy on.
And that’s why Posada cleared the bases by getting thrown out. Genius!
Good thing we got Rothschild to increase the K’s on our staff this season.
It’s May.
Yes, I have a calendar thingie on my watch.
Has there been a bigger free agent bust than Jason Bay? He makes AJ look like a bargain.
John Lackey?
Rafael Soriano?
looks like rothchild told nova to pick up the tempo
we’re winning this (butt ugly) game!
Hopefully Nova can get through the 6th quickly. Already over 80 pitches.
Dickerson > Swisher
Thats my little Dicky!
Michael Kay finally admits bunting is dumb.
Even Michael Kay questioned that bunt.
That was also a horrible bunt.
Fuck you Cervelli
Hindsight?
This umpire blows.
Meh, that was pretty close.
We saw that stat for Pelfrey. 1-23 batters are with runners on against him in his last starts
It was a borderline pitch. Probably should have fought it off but it did look off the plate.
I was surprised to see that the Yankees have 10 SH this year. It sometimes feels so much higher than that.
That doesn’t count the several Sac FAILS.
Carry this team Granderson!
And once again we fail to manufacture even one run. Lead off single by Jeter, 2-3-4 hitters go down in order without even advancing the runner. Lead off double by Dickerson, Cervelli removes the bunt for some reason and we fail to score again. If Cervelli bunts and moves the runner up he scores on Jeter’s groundout.
If Cervelli bunts and moves the runner up he scores on Jeter’s groundout.
It doesn’t work like that. If Dickerson’s on third, it changes everything. They don’t pitch to Jeter the same way.
But the odds of Dickerson scoring go up if he is bunted to third.
The Yankees are down by two runs. You don’t play for 1 run at home in the 5th inning with the top of your order about to come up. Cervelli should be more than capable of poking a weak grounder to the right side, considering that’s what he always does.
When you are failing to hit with runners in scoring position, you get runs anyway you can.
Right, because the Yankees have been oh so successful at bunting runners over and driving them in this year. It hasn’t worked the first hundred times, but keep trying!
But he wasn’t.
Cervelli trying to bunt in the first place was idiotic.
The whole problem with that at bat was that he gave away the first strike on the bunt. It’s a lose-lose. Either you get it done and give away an out needlessly, or you don’t get it down and you give away a strike.
Terrible at bats up and down this order with runners on base. Every pitcher in the league knows that the team swings for the fences, so they throw them pitch after pitch off the outside corner and they pull weak grounders to 1st and 2nd base.
Michael Kay would like to have a word with you about predetermined outcomes.
More fucking RISP fail
way to waste a leadoff double
The thought of losing 2/3 to Buffalo isn’t fun.
When you cant get hits with runners in scoring position, bunting might be the next best option. Plus it was Cervelli who cant hit at all
Cervelli always hits ground balls to the right side. That’s the one thing he does well. Why would you give away the out? What if he pokes it through the hole for a hit rather than just giving himself out?
Because the odds of Francisco Cervelli getting a hit are very slim. I go with the odds.
If it was Granderson in that position, I wouldn’t bunt.
He can’t walk the tightrope forever
I seen this game before
How does it end?
Luis Castillo dropped pop-up.
It looks like Cervelli went to the Bret Gardner How To Take a Called Third Strike School.
the fan in the red sleeves behind home plate looks like “poppie” from seinfeld
Fucking umpire has fallen apart.
The third called strike on Cervelli was a strike according to the replay on YES.
I agree. Problem is that wasn’t a strike in the beginning of the game. The one thing I can’t stand is an inconsistent strike zone.
No, according to the replay on YES, the third strike was just off the plate. Didn’t catch the front corner.
It was close enough off the plate that it wasn’t an egregious, “Fire this jackass now” blown call, but it was a blown call. The ump should have called it a ball.
Beg to differ…..
Sick of Nova. Always behind the count and with men on base. This guy just sucks
Not really? He’s what, our fourth starter. He does about what we ask him to do.
3 runs per six for your 4th or 5th starter is probably better than league average.
It’s the offense that i’m sick of.
He isn’t the problem.
It really seems like when this team is down they get into this home-run or bust mode and it’s looking like a bust, to Mike Pelfrey..
Maybe they realize they’re not good at “small ball.” After all, there’s little speed on this team (and the ones with speed are dumb baserunners anyway) and the high average hitters (like Jeter) are in serious decline. Hitting home runs is the one thing they do really well (against mediocre pitchers naturally). This team is very reminiscent of the 2005-2007 teams offensively.
Yay, defense!
Harris is 3-3, lmao
You know it’s bad when Willie Harris goes 3 for 3.
Nova’s lucky that the Mets are just hitting singles off of him, he’s been terrible
Called not trying to do to much. Yankees should take notes.
seriously, some of those hanging breaking pitches are just scary, I’m surprised no one has gone deep against him.
Well, it’s the Mets.
So I missed the second inning, did Nova get BABIPed to death? That’s the way that the box score made it seem.
Nova is getting smacked around. Nearly every one of these base hits has been a line drive to the outfield on a pitch up in the zone. You’d be foolish to attribute it to bad luck.
I always thought BABIP was bullshit, the whole idea of hitting is to hit it where they ain’t….
Basically. It’s not like they’re seeing-eye grounders, but no one’s really smoked one down the line.
Giving up a lot of singles.
*cough*quality start*cough*
Calling Tex popup right now
HA!
That was my second choice.
Just got in…how do the offense and Pelfrey look?
Terrible and mediocre
Damn that sucks. Get well Don.
Nice stroke, Rod.
TWSS.
Come on, kill this rally, Robbie.
With a homer or a DP?
Homers. Only homers kill rallies. Bunts and GIDPs extend rallies. It’s science.
Almost a DP
He gave it his best shot though.
Wow, Cano finally decided to hustle down the line on one of his infield ground balls. Should have had a hit too on one earlier in the game, but he slowed up heading to first.
This is so beyond wrong…
Nobody is saying Cano is the only one, but he’s certainly been guilty of it lately. On that grounder up the middle he didn’t bust it all the way to first and got thrown out by half a step when he certainly could have beaten it out.
No,
Cano’s just slow. He’s a big guy with a lot of upper-body strength, and I bet he’s faster than me, but compared to your average big-leaguer, he’s slow.
He’s not criticizing his lack of speed. You don’t slow down nearing the bag when you’re hustling to beat it out. You run through the bag. It’s the same principle if you’re Bret Gardner or Matt Stairs.
But he does. You just never see it because he’s out before he’s 2/3 the way there.
perhaps he is suffering from concussion? he looks kinda sluggish lately
Seriously, he does look out of sorts and lifeless. You wouldn’t think that 32 games in 33 days would affect a 28 year old that much. ARod or Jeter sure but Cano? And…it’s May.
Posada with the 4-bagger.
LMAOOOO @ Cone picking all the writers that riped him.
That’s 0-13 with runniers on base.
Now I know what it’s like to be a Padres fan.
This is getting stupid, something needs to happen to get a spark in the offense, call up Montero or something, we can’t play like this and keep up with Tampa/Boston.
we can’t play like this and keep up with Tampa/Boston.
I must have missed the memo explaining how Tampa and Boston have rosters free of holes and are incapable of playing poorly and will both finish the season playing .700 ball from now until October.
I got that memo. Maybe you don’t know the right people.
Maybe Joe Torre is using his new powers in Selig’s administration to blackball me.
Home run or nothing. They didn’t score when they had the leadoff guy double, and they’ve had a runner on almost every inning and can’t get anything across.
Half these guys aren’t even hitting the ball hard because they swing at balls. Cano has especially been one of the biggest culprits lately.
They’re classically in-between: swinging at balls and taking strikes.
This is depressing even for May.
When people saw the pitchers the Mets had lined up for this series they thought we should be able to pound those high ERAs and destroy this injury riddled club. 1 run scored in two of the ballgames is unacceptable. But it’s only May so there are no problems to correct.
But it’s only May so there are no problems to correct.
That’s not what “It’s only May” means.
It’s only May so continue to suck guys. – Girardi
BABIP for this game
Mets 10/21
Yankees 5/16
Nova is giving up line drives all over the place, not seeing eye ground balls. Citing stats like this blindly is incredibly misleading. Even some of the hits that have been classified as ground balls have really been line drives that landed on the edge of the infield dirt on their way to the outfield.
The point isn’t really the mets as much as its about the yankees and their .256 BABIP this game and the chance for a correction.
Again, blindly citing the statistics is misleading.
The Yankees are not hitting the ball hard today, they are hitting lazy fly balls and routine grounders to 2nd and 1st pulling way off of offspeed junk.
They aren’t hitting it hard, hence they are creating their own bad luck.
I think it’s actually 10/25 (now 11/27 after the last couple at bats) and 5/18. Not that unusual for either team.
Cy Dickey and now Cy Pelfrey
They did hit Cy Capuano though.
Reyes is really gross.
Terrific play by both Tex and Nova.
If I told you Friday afternoon that the Yankees would have allowed only 8 runs in the 3 games, what would you have expected the outcome of this series to have been?
A sweep? Certainly not losing 2/3. If they don’t pull this one out, they should be ashamed of themselves this weekend.
If they don’t pull this one out, they should be ashamed of themselves this weekend.
No.
Why not? You’re losing to the Mets!
Losing a series—against ANY opponent—is not something that should “shame” a baseball player.
Winning baseball games isn’t easy. Even when you’re the more talented club, you still lose quite often when the ball doesn’t bounce your way or you’re in a funk. Hence, losing two out of any three games isn’t a “shameful” act. Just an unfortunate one.
Jorge Posada should be ashamed of what he did in the Red Sox series. None of the Yankees should be ashamed that they didn’t win a particular series, though.
Shit happens.
Its the Mets!
And they’re still a major league team, no matter how much we love goofing on them.
Correction, the team we’re playing right now, is not a major league team. Without Wright and Davis.
The team without Wright and Davis has won seven of their last ten games.
Yeah… they still are, though.
We were still a major league team when we had all of our injuries. The Mets would be better with Wright and Davis, but they’re not going to go 0-100 without Wright and Davis. They still can, and will, beat numerous teams and win numerous games.
Clearly they’ve run into a buzzsaw of an offense, and a lights out starting rotation?
How many games do they have to give away before they start counting? Do the games all count as ties until the Yankees start to win more consistently?
They know full well they should be destroying this Mets club right now. Losing the games now is very costly. They play the majority of their games on the road, and very few at home in September. If you give away these opportunities now, you aren’t getting them back so easily.
I agree. Brady Penny, Vin Mazzaro, RA Dickey, Mike Pelfrey- Pitchers who have shut down this vaunted Yankees lineup over the past few weeks. One of them isn’t even in the majors anymore.
Jon Lester, David Price, James Shields … pitchers the Yankees have rocked over the last week, but they don’t help your narrative.
We didn’t beat Lester or Price though
Was that the offense’s fault, or the pitcher’s fault?
Some bullet points:
-It would be nice if the Yankees won, but they won’t
-The Mets are not the worst team in the history of baseball, it’s not devastating to lose to them
-All games count, of course. But since it’s May, there’s no need to panic or overreact to things.
-It’s a long season, crazy and unexpected stuff happens
-Going into this game, the Yankees were 1st in the AL in RS, 2nd in OBP, 1st in OPS. The offense is not really a problem
-They Yankees are tied for 5th for fewest amount of RA in the AL. The pitching hasn’t really been a problem
-The Yankees went into today tied for first.
All of that.
As has been said a million times, if maintaining perspective is a trait you lack, baseball probably isn’t the sport for you.
Go watch wrestling.
And the first one was supposed to be “It would be nice if the Yankees won *every game*, but they won’t.
ASHAAAAAAMED!!!
Well losing 2/3 from Buffalo doesn’t sound fun.
please let that play spark the offense cause this game has been painful to watch
They’re easier to watch using PiP
Nova’s done his job just like Freddy did his on Friday. Cashman needs to make something happen since it appears Joe is content with the status quo.
Yes, I’m absolutely sure that Girardi is ok with a slumping offense.
Do you read your own drivel before hitting ‘submit’?
WOW did Nove get BAbib’d to death.
Of course, it wouldn’t be so bad if he could strike people out.
Eh, it’s not like he gave up a bunch of dribblers that happened to find holes. The Mets have been scalding the ball off of him. BABIP is worth looking at for long-term trends, not single games.
Now… if hit f/x were open, we could compare BABIP to the velocity of the ball off the bat…
A few of those singles, if you take that pitch and give it to a good hitter, are out of the ballpark.
Not really. The BABIP count was 11/27, and a normal BABIP would be more like 8/27. 3 extra hits out of 27 isn’t much.
He had a .288 BABIP coming into this game. Reversion to the mean as the sample size increases isn’t surprising. Don’t ever look at single games with BABIP. It tells you very little as there is so much noise.
Not the greatest start, but overall he kept battling and Nova was solid, not great but certainly solid.
Oh you think he pitched well? Nice try Ivan Nova.
He didn’t say “Ivan Nova pitched well”.
He said “Ivan Nova was not great but was certainly solid”. And he’s correct. It’s the 7th inning and we’re only down 3-1. That’s practically the definition of “not great but solid”.
I get what you’re saying, but I think we’re being duped. Ivan = Ivan Nova.
Considering he didn’t have his best stuff, and he’s a rookie pitcher, he battled and pitched into the 7th inning only allowing 3 runs. Was he great of course not, but overall he was ok/solid enough to keep the Yankees in the game and gave his team a chance to win.
he didn’t even finish 7 IP. BUST!!!!!!
He kept the yanks in the game at least. 11 hits and 1 walk through 6 2/3 i’m amazed they only scored 3. He did a good job minimizing damage
Good to see he can give you a quality start against the Buffalo Bisons when asked to.
Hey Yankees offense,
SCORE SOME F****** RUNS!!!
Love,
FTLT
I bet every MLB team would like their 4th/5th starter to give them 6.2 ip with 3 ER even if it came on 11 hits.
Blegh, ESPN Fantasycast broken. Second time this past week.
Perhaps Gardner isn’t running because he can’t steal. It’s perhaps because he doesn’t want the Yanks to continue to fail with RISP
Ughhh. “If Dickerson gets on, that allows Girardi let Cervelli bunt”
Free outs here, get yer free outs here.
It was like nails on a blackboard hearing that.
Considering the hitter, bunt here.
considering the hitter, PH Martin to swing away.
Cervelli’s going to bunt so Jeter can continue to not get runners in, great.
What was that?
I’ll happily eat crow.
I hope you’re just venting and don’t legitimately believe that Jeter is less likely to get a hit with RISP than he is in general.
I sweat I clicked Submit as the pitch was on the way to Jeter.
I swear I clicked Submit as the pitch was on the way to Jeter.
No, I just expect very little out of Jeter these days. It’s like he’s a rookie again, every hit makes me happy. Expect nothing and you’re never disappointed.
for someone who “expects nothing” you sure are overtly critical
I would pinch hit Cerveli here IMO.
Now we’re cooking. Let’s give these guys a dose of small ball and manufacture some runs.
Phew, Pelfrey saved them from the bunt.
shit
Way to go Franco!
Tnank you Mike Pelfrey, and its not even Christmas yet.
WHAT THE FUCK GOD DAMNIT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO FUCKING STOP HITTING YANKEE BATTERS IN AND AROUND THE FUCKING HEAD
Please some Captain Clutch!!
THANK YOU!!!
OH HELL NO YOU DO NOT HIT MY FRANKIE HELL NO
/anger’d
We’ll take it.
Oh my that was close
Bunt worked!
At least jeter’s DP will score a run.
Hahah,he at least tried.
Yay, no bunt
GS for Jeter, im calling it.
Jeter!!!!!
Captain clutch!
CAPTAIN CLUTCH!!!!
copy cat
Well look at that, Jeter made me look like an ass.
Yeah. Maybe you could ease up on the snark until he hits 3000 and enjoy the history lesson.
I’m not surprised
that’s not hard to do
DA CAPTAIN. True Yankee.
RISPWIN!
BABIP love, baby.
What did you say about Jeter Mike?
He said Jeter will continue to not get runners in but he’s the only one getting them in. I would hope our 2-3-4 hitters could find some way to push over the go ahead run.
He is? Jeter was hitting .186/.255/.233 with RISP coming into this game. He came through that time, but has been brutal so far this year.
CAPTAIN CLUTCH!
And Jeter’s struggles this year with men on base will be forgotten. BUT, who cares. WOHOOO. RISPSUCCESS
World =/= Over
bunt worked this time, tied game now
Cervy didn’t bunt, though.
FINALLY!
DER-EK JEE-TAH
Captain Cluuuutch!!!
Knew we couldn’t get outplayed by the Buffalo Bisons for 2 whole games.
Just 1 is bad enough.
Do Major League managers NOT realize that Granderson has been BETTER against lefties than righties in 2011?
It doesn’t matter if he bunts
And the universe just exploded…
Also, I love how every bunt leads to slower page load times…
WHY?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fucking bunt.
That’s how you play baseball, folks. Beautiful bunt. Now hit a sac fly here and drive him home.
Or IBB and a double play = no runs
Second in the league in homers, by all means bunt. Holy fuck are they morons.
He can’t hit lefties though.
Why would Granderson, the Yankees best hitter this year, bunt? WHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? Fuck outta here with that bullshit.
I’m not sure about that one.
Bunts. Are. Fucking. Stupid.
Bunts. Are. Fucking. Stupid.
Bunts. Are. Fucking. Stupid.
Bunts. Are. Fucking. Stupid.
Bunts. Are. Fucking. Stupid.
Granderson bunting is stupid, Cervelli bunting isn’t.
Agreed. I had no real problem with Cervell giving himself up to move TWO runners over to second and third, that’s a decent play.
Granderson needs to be swinging away, though. That bunt was ridiculous.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why the fuck is our best hitter bunting?
Curtis Granderson just bunted.
THE HOTTEST FUCKING MAN IN BASEBALL JUST GAVE UP AN OUT.
MOTHERFUCKER.
+1
double u tee eff
is granderson the only one on this team who can bunt?
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING SMOKING
Why would you bunt your hottest hitter? I h8 buntz
Okay, really? Really? Granderson??!! Why not f’ing bunt Babe Ruth, too.
But… DA BINDER?1?!!
WHAT.
Walking Tex to face A-Rod?
Slam by A-Rod.
We just HAD to get a bunt in today
DEAR G-D NO. Worst bunt of the season. No question.
Best HR hitter in baseball for the last 4 months NBD (Non-Bautista Division).
Worst bunt of the season.
DEAR G-D NO. Worst bunt of the season. No question.
That might have been the worst bunt in recorded human history.
Unfuckingbelievable.
That was stupid, considering Grandy has been killing LHP.
If he sucked vs LHP, then I agree with the bunt, but he’s been good lately, so I disagree with it.
Walking Tex with Arod on deck NEVER works out for the other team. LOVE IT!
That was stupid, considering Grandy has been killing LHP.
If he sucked vs LHP, then I agree with the bunt, but he’s been good lately, so I disagree with it.
Dear God, A-Rod please don’t GIDP.
OMG. The hottest hitter at the plate, what are we doing? BUNTING!? That’s so stupid!!
So stupid. First and second, no outs, two best hitters on the team due up and they took the bat right out of their hands. But hey, smallball. That’s how you win or some shit. Common sense has no place in baseball.
We’ll see if it works but I agree with you.
Seriously, I actually WANT this shit to fail. I want ARod and Cano to strike out here, just so that ridiculously asinine strategy of bunting CURTIS FUCKING GRANDERSON can backfire.
Joe Girardi is making himself fucking impossible to defend.
Uhhh…
Haha, oh stop. Looked like Granderson bunted by himself, and c’mon, can’t for Arod and Cano to fail.
That’s troll status brosef.
Sometimes you need to lose the battle to win the war.
And in defense of myself, I didn’t say I wanted us to lose this game. Just for us to not score this inning.
These things can be corrected. It’s May. Chill.
Girardi’s bunting obsession predates the beginning of this season.
If the Yankees win games, I don’t care how they do it (bunting or no bunting).
You know why they bunted Granderson? That’s right. Too many homeruns.
LOL
I really believe that Granderson bunted on his own. I have ahard time believing that Girardi would ask Granderson, you know the guy that leads his team in HR’s to actually bunt smfh.
It worked
haha, wow. Just…wow.
lol bet they didn’t see that coming
That’ll get the job done! That’s how you play baseball!
Haha, the fact that the bunt worked and they scored only means they’ll try it again in the future. Awesome.
I love how Leiter and Cone are making fun of Kay in the booth for loving the bunt. “That’s your favorite play, Michael.”
For the record, Fangraphs gives the bunt a +0.3% WPA, and another +0.3% for walking Tex.
You’ve got it wrong. Kay is not a fan of mindless bunting. Leiter and Cone are the bunting advocates. They were both NL pitchers for a good part of their careers.
Couple singles with risp baby
Leiter just pulled a Sterling
A-Rod doing the Jeter!
Great. The bunt worked. Which means we’re just gonna keep doing it.
The only reason it worked is because ARod made awful contact. If he hits that harder, it’s a double play.
Now every one will say the Granderson bunt was the right move because they scored. That’s lucky as hell… just because it worked doesn’t mean it was right.
A-Rod with the line drive base hit, past the pitcher!!!
Great now Girardi thinks the bunt worked. New rule, every time someone sac bunts, Joe needs to punch one of his kids in the face.
Cano just took two pitches in a row. a new personal record for him
Another one!
RBI for Robbie!
We are now 3-3 with RISP in this inning! Move the runners over and good things will happen.
http://communitiesonline.homes.....roll_2.jpg
What will you say if you don’t have stuff to complain about?
Hey, we’re scoring runs without a HR this inning. Wonder if that will calm the mass media. Unlikely.
Yay, Robbie.
Robinson? Robinson Cano? So good to see you — how long has it been?
I think these are the Mets we expected to face
Uh oh, this game thread is gonna get quiet now. What to complain about now?
And right on cue, the ump…
Heh, yeah but replays showed the ball crossed at Jorge’s knees. Umps should make more calls based on that than where the catcher catches the ball.
Agreed, just when it actually happens it is notable since that is usually not the case. Kind of like calling someone safe on the neighborhood play.
HIP….HIP….JOR-GE!
I bet Grandy bunted on his own. Girardi can’t be that silly.
Even if he did, it’s on Girardi to instruct him not to be bunting in that situation. Girardi has to tell him that he’s white hot and needs to be swinging away at all times, driving in runs with his powerstroke.
Wow…are you serious?
Are you fucking kidding? Send this ump to the glue factory.
Wow. That was almost in the dirt.
Holy f*ck
In the dirt, WTF?
Meh, crossed at his knees. Not a terrible call.
Looked below his kneecap at it’s highest point.
WTF IS DAT UMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
wow BS call
WTF IS DAT UMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What kind of douche umpire calls a PITCH IN THE DIRT a strike?
I think Jorge fucked his wife, daughter or perhaps his mother. That is clearly the only explanation.
Interestingly, PitchFX called that a strike.
Even if he has been calling the low pitch, that was in the dirt.
Let’s see if Joba gets the breaking ball in the dirt as a CALLED STRIKE!
It wasn’t in the dirt. Reaplays showed it crossed at or right below Jorge’s knees. It wasn’t the worst call in the history of the world.
It looked like it was below the knees per the replay, so it wasn’t a strike, IMO. It was in the dirt, no replay needed for that.
It doesn’t matter where the catcher catches it.
I understand that. Per the replays I’ve seen the ball was below the knees when it crossed the plate, landing in the dirt. I cannot remember the last time I watched a ball land in the dirt and it be a called strike. Can you?
Boy…that call sucked some major monkey nuts.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....nt-2086539
See? All you have to do is ask nicely! =)
It’s not where it’s caught, it’s where it crossing the plate. I’ll reserve judgment until I see a few more replays. I do remember years ago that would be called a strike if it went through the zone. In recent years, they seem to call where it lands in the glove, which is not always correct.
This.
Anyone know where pitchFX had that pitch? I thought it crossed at his knees.
http://tinyurl.com/3ngqzu2
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
Cheers guys
You know you had a productive inning when the guy who started the inning comes up back again to bat.
Obvious analysis is obvious.
More runs so joba and robertson can have a badly needed off day
yay
BG!!!
MORE BABIP LOVE, BABY!!!!
HELL YEA!
Fuck you mr. ump
GRITTY GARDNER
Brett fuckin Gardner!!
Cap it off with a HR
That’s just fine
Yeah!!!!!!!!
lol BABIP’d to death
B.
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David Cone just said that Granderson’s bunt set up the inning. Any of you will willing to object?
Yes, I’ll object.
As V pointed out earlier, had ARod’s weak infield single been hit slightly harder, he would have grounded into an inning-ending double play.
Curtis Granderson’s bunt didn’t “set up” the big inning. The Yankees loading the bases BEFORE Curtis Granderson bunted and BEFORE a single out was recorded, THAT “set up” the big inning.
Curtis Granderson’s bunt probably didn’t change the likelihood of a big inning much at all. He just moved the chain along.
They scored two runs before the bunt. The inning was set up by Pelfrey walking Dickerson and hitting Cervelli to load the bases with no outs.
That.
According to WPA, Gardner’s single, Dickerson’s walk, Cervelli’s HBP, and Jeter’s single added a collective 47.9% to our chances of winning this game.
Granderson’s bunt added a whopping total of 0.3% to our chances of winning this game.
Saying that Granderson’s bunt “set up” that inning is horrendously ridiculous.
Oh baby!
We just one of this bleepers yesterday.
I mean Friday.
It just keeps getting better…
And I really hope this Dickerson kid gets more playing time in right. He’s ignited the offense in a way Swisher hasn’t all year.
You heard it here first: Dickerson’s responsible for the Yankees offense today.
Dickerson’s no kid. He’s 28.
Correction. He turned 29 in April.
He’s a 4th OFer, but a solid one. Nice pick-up by Cash for Mitre, who Yankees fans wanted cut.
Greg Golson and Cody Ransom called. They say hi.
Take that douchey McDouchie UMP!
Lololololol Harris
I love it. Trolls here and in the media can’t complain about the Yankees offense for a day.
But the team’s not consistent enough, Esteban! Yankees should of only scored 6 runs instead of 9, and save those other three runs for tomorrow.
Yeah, duh should of realized how much of an idito I am.
9 is fine. Score 6 tomorrow and Colon will lead us to victory.
omfg babip where have you been? I missed you.
And to think, if ARod hits the ball just a little harder, it’s 3-3.
hahahaha oh man…Mets….
This reminds me of the Cubs 8th inning rally last night minus all the brain farts…never mind, theres the error.
Meet the Mets, Meet the Mets.
BUt you said they were gonna lose this game to the Mets and it was embarrassing that they were trailing (not a direct quote). OH well.
It was embarrassing at the time. And that’s why it would have been. To lose to these bumblers. But, things change. Moods change.
No it wasn’t embarrassing to be trailing 3-1 in the 7th inning against the Mets.
THe way it was happening was pretty embarrassing.
But it was the 7th inning. The game wasn’t over. And I don’t think it was particularly embarrassing anyway.
Did I miss the part where the Yankees gave up 17 back-to-back homeruns, or committed 6 errors in a single inning, or struck out on three pitches for 8 consecutive innings?
It was a 3-1 deficit. The Yankees were never out of this game. Nothing that happened today was “embarrassing”.
Being outpitched by Mike Pelfrey and losing 2 of 3 to the Mets without David Wright and Ike Davis is pretty close.
No.
ER by Pelfrey last 5 starts: 1, 4, 1, 3, 1.
Mets last 10 games going into today: 7-3
Greg’s idea of the Mets as the worst team in the history of the world: Shattered.
But, things change. Moods change.
People change. Hairstyles change. Interest rates fluctuate, who knows?
I hope Dickerson sticks around for a while. He seems to have an idea of what he wants to do when he’s up at the plate.
He’s fun to watch.
He has been better than this years version of Swish. What has Nick been doing in the field? He’ll make one great play a week then make a routine play look just awful, falling down with long Damon-esque loopy throws. Swisher’s offense has been anemic; this Dickerson guy has speed, good arm, good fielding and if he keeps coming up with clutch hits and Swisher continues to resemble a dilapidated version of the guy who played that year in Chicago, we will see more of the Dick.
This half inning should be required viewing for any of the people who complain constantly on these boards…imagine being a Met fan for even a week.
Wow I swear Jeter was safe on that too.
mercy call
Wow, that looked like he was safe
I think this game should heretofore be known as “The Correction.”
I second that motion
Luis Ayala has been surprisingly awesome this year. Definitely wrote that pickup off way too soon.
Well now he’s not cursed by wearing that clown uniform.
Definitely. It is a little concerning how many guys he lets on base though.
But David Robertson doesn’t concern you?
Robertson can get guys out all by himself though.
Robertson is far less hittable while having strikeout stuff. So no he doesn’t concern me as much as Ayala letting baserunners on.
Will be interesting to see if/when he starts to be used in higher leverage situations. But his stuff complements the ‘pen well.
How many catchers run down to first on a routine ground ball like cervelli does? Gotta really appreciate the effort he puts in when he does get to play
Grit
BTW What’s the deal with Ayala? He used to be a solid reliver for four or five seasons, then missed a couple seasons in non-consecutive years, and really sucked the others. Not sure what type of injuries he had, or if by chance he had some stem cells and body fat injected into his arm.
He blew out his elbow in the first World Baseball Classic, missed year after Tommy John surgery and sucked afterwards.
When the Yankees first picked him up, I didn’t even realize he was the same Ayala that had been with the Expos (wow, can’t be many of those left). I looked at his record the other day and it’s clear he suffered some type of arm injury. He’s put too many on base, but now I’m wondering if maybe has something left. I guess I need to pay more attention to these off-season pick-ups by Cashman. One or two of them seem to show up to help.
It like the baseball gods said “So you put down a successful bunt. In return we give you BaBIP
Those BABIP Dragons sure went in their favor today.
I knew we’d see a Tex popup in there somewhere
See? Granderson flied out. Clearly, he would of done that if he was swinging away. He should of bunted, that was the right move.
I’m not saying it was the right move. I thought it was an unwise move. But it didn’t hurt us in the long run. I just think you guys on here need to accept bunting as part of the game and a useful tool at certain times.
I just think you guys on here need to accept bunting as part of the game and a useful tool at certain times.
Sure, bunts can be useful in certain very specific situations (late in games down by 1 or tied, poor hitter up), no one’s denying that. But the Yankees have bunted in many situations this year that are counterproductive.
But it didn’t hurt us in the long run.
Correction: It didn’t hurt us in the short run. It may well hurt us in the long run.
I just think you guys on here need to accept bunting as… a useful tool at certain times.
I do accept bunting as a useful tool at certain times. This was probably not one of those times, even if we ended up scoring 6 more runs after that bunt. While it’s impossible to know what happens in each alternate scenario, in all likelihood, that bunt didn’t help us much at all and probably wasn’t a useful tool in that scenario.
It just seems that mostly everyone on here has an irrational hate towards bunting. That’s all.
I was speaking in gametime with “long term” not season time.
It just seems that mostly everyone on here has an irrational hate towards bunting.
No, the hate is rational.
Heh.
Fallicyofthepredeterminedoutcome’d
You’re preaching to the choir, man.
Unfortunately, this means another game without seeing Mo close. I think it’s a first that he’s not going to be seeing the Mets in the Bronx at all over this weekend.
Considering his struggles and usage, it might be a wise choice.
ARod must have made a sacrifice to the BABIP gods.
So Ayala’s in line for the win now. Tell me again why people pay attention to W/L record for pitchers?
They don’t. King Felix won the Cy Young last year with a 13-12 record.
Meh, one year the BBWAA got it right. Plenty of people still use pitcher W/L records.
It was a pretty huge departure. And remember, that followed up on a year when Zack Greinke and his 15 wins, and Tim Lincecum similar, won the Cy Young Awards in their respective leagues. NONE of those three would have won the award five years ago, let alone 15 or 30 years ago. The thinking has changed some across a lot of the media on this topic, that is unless you’re Murray Chass.
The BBWAA might be getting better, but the public at large still uses W/L for pitchers.
If you think that they don’t you are kidding yourself.
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxe.....LN1959.htm
Wins are very important. Haddix was clearly worse in the above game.
If A-Rod coult have avoided that three-week slump after the oblique injury, he’d be having one hell of a year.
/statingtheobvious
If he could have avoided the oblique injury, he’d be having one hell of a year.
Put it on the left side!
I seriously never heard that until it was mentioned here last week.
Horrible.
Mike needs to dump it. Now.
This exchange just on TBS, talking about Smoltz’s love of playing basketball:
Anderson: You are’t playing with Zack Greinke, are you?
Smoltz: No….*long awkward pause*
Anderson: That caused him some troubles.
Smoltz: Is that how he got hurt?
Embarrassment: averted.
Not really. I’ll never forget the shame of the Yankees being down 3-1 in the 7th inning of a game.
Other than the 7th inning, the offense sucked today.
/something I could totally see the media saying
I guess this game shows why you don’t assume the game is over after 6 innings even if the pitcher was cruising and the offense looked lethargic.
Gotta give Nova some credit. 14 baserunners in 6.2 innings and he only gives 3 runs.
He really kept the Yankees in the game.
I guess this game shows why you don’t assume the game is over after 6 innings even if the pitcher was cruising and the offense looked lethargic.
Yay, you’re learning.
Apparently, Girardi called for the Granderson bunt. WTF?
At least he’s putting up a good defense for why toomanyhomers is not bad thing.
His explanation for Cervelli’s bunt was so dumb. He said something about it having a place in his heart? He wouldn’t even answer the question.
I missed this game because I was visiting a relative, but from the looks of this game thread I wish I hadn’t.
Great win today. I don’t have a problem with the Granderson bunt, you actually ARE supposed to bunt every so often for game theory purposes, the two best hitters on the team were coming up with a chance of having runners on second and third? Yeah, I wouldn’t have done it, but I think it was an okay call all things considered. My only concern is that they need to use Mo sooner or later so he can shake off the rust.