2011 Draft: John Sickels’ Yankees Review


John Sickels at Minor League Ball is reviewing each team’s draft haul, and today he got to the Yankees. He is a rare fan of the Dante Bichette Jr. pick and also likes 13th rounder Justin James as a sleeper. “The rest of the class was focused on raw high school kids with power potential and signability issues, plus some college pitchers who look like bullpen contributors,” said Sickels in his overall recap. Make sure you heck it out, he provides mini-scouting reports on each of the team’s top ten selections.

Categories : Asides, Draft
  • CC’s third leg

    I hope that Bradford should be able to help as a LOOGY in late august/september

    • pat

      I definitely don’t.

  • Urban

    It’s not that Bichette is a poor pick. Similar to Culver, the questions are around him as the first pick when other higher-end prospects were available. In the world of young baseball players, Bichette may turn out to be a fine pick. Same with Culver.

    • CC’s third leg

      but the difference is that Bichette has an easily defined ceiling(sr.) whereas culver seemed to have been drafted merely based on his locality

      • pat

        Or the fact that he’s a switch hitting shortstop with a plus glove already, contact skills, patience and incredible makeup? Yeah that’s probably why he was taken in the first round. Not his “locality”

        • CP

          I think the locality was involved, but not necessarily as a plus for the Yankees, but as a minus for the “scouting media” (i.e. BA and KLaw). When a kid plays in Rochester, it’s hard to get to see him in a reasonable game situation when you’re also trying to post write-ups on nationwide prospects and get around to see all of them. When you’re a regional scout, it’s easier to make sure you get out there on a day with nice weather since you can keep coming back if needed.

          I think the same thing happens with all kids from the north east, but when KLaw was living in the Boston area it was pretty easy for him to cover the New England prospects.

      • http://twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

        Hold on I’ve got another one, this is too easy…

        http://goo.gl/EC0xT (safe)

      • MikeD

        Culver was not taken because he plays in NY.

      • Ted Nelson

        A person’s ceiling is not necessarily what their father’s game was. Barry Bonds’ ceiling was not Bobby Bonds. And most MLB players’ fathers never played in MLB in the first place. Comparing him to his father is convenient and not inaccurate, but that doesn’t make his father’s career his ceiling.

    • CP

      I’m curious. Who were the other higher-end prospects that were available?

      • CC’s third leg

        This year: Norris and Purke
        Last year: Ranaudo and Allie

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          No one should be upset about Purke. He was a disaster for the last three months.

          • CC’s third leg

            I’m upset about passing on Norris and I literally threw myself a Mini tantrum when Beede went to the jays

        • CP

          Norris went 23 picks later. Were the other 22 picks mistakes because they didn’t take him? The Rays had 4 picks between the Yankees pick at 51 and when he was taken at 74.

          Heck, even the Jays (who ended up selecting him) passed on him at 53 and 57. Perhaps the popular opinion of him did not match what teams thought of him.

          • Gonzo

            I think it was Callis or KLaw that said this years ago.
            Pay attention who gets paid what not to when they were picked if you want a better picture of how they were viewed talent wise.

            • Ted Nelson

              It’s a bit of both I would say… Not every team thinks the same thing about every player. If a guy falls a lot of picks and then signs with Team Y for $X mill, there’s a decent chance the teams that passed didn’t think he was worth $X mill. (That and/or they thought the guy they picked presented better value and/or they were incorrect in assessing the player’s signability.)

              Plus leverage and willingness to sign also play into it. Maybe the Yankees would be willing to pay Bichette $1, 1.5, 2 mill… but he’s willing to sign for slot. Maybe if they had drafted Bell/Howard/Norris and ended up signing him to or at least offering 5x slot that wouldn’t mean they thought he was 5x the player Bichette was.

  • Gonzo

    Matt Duran! New Rochelle baby!!

  • Ted Nelson

    I find it funny how people get obsessed with what they view as a player they’ve rarely or never seen plays’ “upside”…

    If you ranked higher on Law or Callis or Sickels’ list… you’ve “got more upside.” Despite them often ranking guys higher not because of their upside, but probability and/or polish.

    If you’re stuck on a corner you “have no upside.” Despite many of the best players of all-time being strictly corner players.

    People get upset about picking relievers after the 5th round because “they have no upside.” Ignoring that by the 5th round you usually have about 1 real MLB player drafted per round per year… and looking back historically a whole lot of those guys were college guys who ended up on a corner or in relief.

    I understand the rationale, but I just think that there are some logical leaps that are not necessarily based on any research into what sort of draft picks tend to make it. People get obsessed with what they perceive as a player’s “upside.”

  • Diamond Dan

    I guess it’s a success just for a draft pick to make it to the major league level, but the Yankees can do without Dante Bichette-levels of production from Dante Bichette Jr. Bichette Sr. was nothing without Coors Field. Even during his best years, his home/away splits were unbelievable. In 1995, his slugging was .755 at home, and just .473 on the road. Over the course of 14 seasons, Bichette accumulated just a 2.0 WAR. The average starting player will have a 2.0 WAR per season. I think Sr. is certainly in the running for the most overrated player of the 1990’s.

    • Ted Nelson

      I’m not sure how much Dante Bichette Sr.’s production has to do with Jr.’s future… but this issue has already been beaten to death before your comment.