Game 90: Gotta get down with Freddy

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Rothschild: Colon not hurt, just apprehensive
Montero returns in SWB win
(AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

I hate myself for that title. Here’s the lineup…

Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Nick Swisher, RF
Jorge Posada, DH
Russell Martin, C
Brett Gardner, LF
Eduardo Nunez, 3B

Freddy Garcia, SP

The game starts a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on My9 locally or MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.

Joey Bats Update: Blue Jays manager John Farrell told reporters before today’s game that Jose Bautista is likely to miss the rest of the series after twisting his ankle last night. “Optimistically Sunday, realistically Tuesday,” he said. That’s unfortunate, you know. It really is. Such a shame. Like is so unfair.

Rothschild: Colon not hurt, just apprehensive
Montero returns in SWB win
  • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist_7 Carlosologist

    We caught a break with Bautista missing the rest of the series. Now hopefully we can win the rest of this series.

  • Guest

    You shouldn’t. It’s one of my favorite memes for this site. Of all the different kinds of posters we have here, I can’t think of a single one that would genuinely like that song (without tongue planted firmly in cheek). Therefore, continued references remain hilariously out of place.

    Partying, partying, YEAH!

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Always appropriate when Freddy takes the ball on a Friday.

      • Chris

        Well, let’s just be glad he didn’t say “Gotta get down on Freddy.”

        • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

          I don’t think Rebecca Black is old enough to do that.

  • Jeter Meter

    In toronto for the game. Sweaty Freddy baby!

  • Jonathan Harker

    Nobody’s playing 3rd base, just like last night.

  • Monteroisdinero

    Price for the Rays against the Sux. Hoping for a gem there. He still has nightmares after giving up the mammoth DJ3K.

    • nathan

      I think he is fine, he is man enough to sign all those i gave up the 3k hit.

  • Cuso

    I hate the mindset I get in when an opposing team is missing their biggest threat.

    I foolishly start thinking ‘They should win this one and the next one, and Sunday too.’

    Hate my mindset, but shouldn’t they?

    …by the way, didn’t Morrow pitch 7.2 innings of no-hit ball against us last year? and then eventually shut us out?

    Yeah, let’s reverse that.

    • Jonathan Harker

      With their best player out I think it’s ok to believe they can at least win 2 out of the final 3 if not sweep the 3 games. Depends on our starters though and our luck. Without Bautista their lineup they’ve got Lind. Not much scares you.

      • Cuso

        This display is why I felt hesitant. They’re gonna lose 3-out-of-4, not win ’em.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Bautista missing the rest of the series means his replacement will be impossible to get out right?

  • lily

    yankees are lucky. they need to take advantage of bautista not in the line-up and win the series. well lets first start with a win tonight. brandon morrow is always tough on us

  • bonestock94

    Freddy is already sweating his ass off lol

  • first time lawng time

    Where/when/how did the whole sweaty Freddy thing start? Is it exclusive to RAB? What’s the deal?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Oh hey, Mark Teixeira popped out.

  • Greg

    When you throw a hard fastball, you get those type of results from tex

    • Chris

      Either that, or monster home runs, I suppose.

  • Pastadivingarod

    I miss the cano HR SWING

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Nice job, fellas.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Why cant girardi do this
    Jeter
    Gardner
    Granderson
    Cano
    Tex
    Posada
    Swisher
    Martin
    Nunez

    • first time lawng time

      Because he’s stupid.

      The only reason he got into Northwestern is that he’s an athlete. Which, I think, is bullshit when schools do that.

  • first time lawng time

    Fail.

  • Jonathan Harker

    Inexcusable not to score there. Our tablesetters get on and those other guys have to be able to drive them in. They couldn’t even move the runners up.

    • Greg

      Morrow’s a good pitcher.

      Jeez, you guys would expect this lineup to batter Sandy Koufax.

      • first time lawng time

        That’s a bad analogy because expecting to beat Mrrow is nothing like expecting to beat Koufax.

        Morrow isn’t even that great, especially at home.

        • Greg

          No one gives credit to the opposing pitcher here. Doug Davis I can understand getting on the Yankees back but not this guy

    • Chris

      God I miss A-rod. What about the chances of Jeter scoring if Patterson catches that Granderson foul ball?

  • Greg

    Morrow gets credit for getting out of it by using his hard fastball to cause Tex and Swisher to pop up

    • Chris

      I’d credit the Swisher out more to that awesome slider of his.

    • Matt

      Let me guess, next you’re going to say “why couldn’t Colon do that?”

      Well I’ll answer the question for you:

      COLON DOES NOT HAVE A 90 MPH WIPEOUT SLIDER!

  • karel capek

    Hold the phone
    hold the phone
    it’s David Cone
    David Cone
    I’m not cheatin’
    the man looks
    like Buster Keaton

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      I can see it.

  • Pastadivingarod

    They are stealing signs again

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Yay sucking against a sub .500 team.

  • Jonathan Harker

    That’s how you get a runner in from 2nd. Take notes Teixera, Cano, and Swisher.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Hate to get hit by that 79mph fastball

  • IRF

    Garnder has played pretty awful defense in Toronto.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Way to pay attention Swish.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Think the bluejays are starting become like the red sox

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    7 run improvement over last night.

    /nothingtobeproudof

  • bonestock94

    Man, Hill really blows. The DFA seems inevitable.

  • Cuso

    Suck-ass-fuck-fucks

  • Pastadivingarod

    Haha british open Luv the coney

  • Greg

    Question:

    Do we think that the Shift alone is the reason for Teixiera’s declining average? Or is there something else?

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      I think it is his inordinate amount of infield popups.

      • Zooboy

        Well it worked against the Mets.

        • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

          ARod hit the Castillo ball if that’s what you’re talking about.

          • Zooboy

            Oops.

  • IRF

    Holy mustache Batman!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      That thing reminded me of Damon’s from a few years ago. Dirty.

      • IRF

        I’m hoping it reaches Giambi status

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          He’ll be growing it all season then.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Here comes the bunt.

    • Greg

      Not with Posada on second.

  • Jonathan Harker

    Here we go again. Marrow is trying to give us the ballgame. Why don’t you bunt Girardi to get to Nunez. I bet he does.

    • Chris

      Heh, bunt Girardi over? I’d like to see that.

      • Chris

        But then again, Pinch run him for posada, why not?

  • Greg

    Morrow’s gettin’ squeezed.

  • Chris

    gardner bunt?

  • Chris

    Gotta love Martin’s breakout slides. That’s how it’s done.

    • Chris

      breakout, really? I’ve been playing too much atari lately.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Wow great slide by martin
    For a gay guy :)

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      lololol

  • Chris

    Gotta love Martin’s takeout slides. That’s how it’s done.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      If he could hit like, .250/.350/.370, I’d be thrilled. He does everything else very well.

  • Jonathan Harker

    Nunez continues to get the job done. Don’t know why you would trade the farm for a 4 week replacement when you’ve got him.

    • Greg

      DEFENSE

    • Pastadivingarod

      He will make up for it by air mailing one from third to first.

  • IRF

    Nunez trying to redeem himself for the errors he will certainly make later on

  • Cuso

    Thank God for Nunez

    ….wait, what?

  • IRF

    That slider is fucking nasty

  • Greg

    There’s the nasty slider.

  • first time lawng time

    Oh look. Jeter failed.

    • Greg

      More credit to Morrow for the slider.

      • first time lawng time

        More credit to Jeter for being completely useless the past 2 seasons.

        • Greg

          More credit to me for being logical.

          • Greg

            In this instance

          • first time lawng time

            More credit to me for being not illogical.

            OOOOHH DOUBLE NEGATIVE! WHAT NOW, GREG? WHAT NOW?!

            • Greg

              Thanks for that. Cheered me up

              • first time lawng time

                Greg, perk up. You always seem like so depressed. If the Yankees lose and the Red Sox win, you know what you have to say? BIG FUCKING DEAL! And get over it.

                Seriously, go buy a puppy or something.

  • Jetrer

    Angel Hernandez just sucks royal ass

  • bonestock94

    WUT

  • Jonathan Harker

    Completely changed the at bat. Angel is a trash umpire.

  • first time lawng time

    How in the he’ll did he swing?

    Angel Hernandez is the biggest fucking douche. In a game against LAA last year he was being bitchy at AJ and wouldn’t give him any calls.

    Bastard.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Are you sure AJ just wasn’t throwing balls?

      • first time lawng time

        Yes, Will Nieves Number 1 Fan, I am completely sure! I remember he threw strikes, because that’s why I was so pissed at Herbandez.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Really wish Grandy would go the other way.

    He has the power to do so easily.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Thans Angel Hernandez. Asshole.

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      *Thanks

  • Kostas

    Angel Hernandez is a great umpire. Otherwise the Brotherhood of Umpires would get rid of him – #union’d #fuckyoufans

  • Cuso

    it could be worse. normally Angel Hernandez & Joe West are in the same crew. At least Joe isn’t in Toronto this weekend.

    That goat-f*cker

  • Chris

    Legit question. What’s Garcia’s FB%? I think I just saw like his 3rd of the night.

    • Jetrer

      40.5%

      • Chris

        Thanks, guess it’s higher than I expected.

        • Jetrer

          My mistake, I thought you were referring to flyball %
          although his fastball % is close to that, 37.2%

    • DCBX

      Ha!

      Reminds me of a story about Roger McDowell (currently Braves pitching coach) coming up in the 80’s with a 82-85 mph 2-seamer.

      At his first bullpen in Mets ST, the coach supposedly asked for the FB 4 or 5 times before realizing that WAS the FB.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Freddy need colons fat injections

  • Karl Krawfid

    Would trade Cervelli for Molina.

    • Greg

      Blue Jays would hang up the phone.

    • bonestock94

      No question

  • first time lawng time

    Let’s leave 2 on again.

  • Chris

    Since when does Jose Molina know what a bat is?

  • Karl Krawfid

    Verlander has giving up 3 runs.

    CC is coming for that CY.

    • Karl Krawfid

      Make that 4

  • Pastadivingarod

    Freddy throwin the junk tonight he is our knucklballer

  • first time lawng time

    Fucking bunt, Teixeira.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Ben Zobrist hit a grand slam. 5-1 Rays.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Huh, Tex popped up again. Weird.

  • Chris

    You can pop that one on the left side!

  • Greg

    Again hard fastball in, popup

    Luckily batting average means nothing in sabermetrics.

    • Jetrer

      ummm, hits and outs mean something

      • Greg

        Nope. OBP is the main stat in sabermetrics adn Tex has a good one. .350.

        • IRF

          Except a) hits make up 3/4 of OBP and b) .350 isn’t good for a 1B

          • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

            This.

        • Jetrer

          outs are always the worst possible outcome, Sabremetrics or not

        • Jetrer

          and hits and outs are both prime factors in OBP

    • first time lawng time

      I actually like batting average. I don’t care what people here say. I’d like some of our guys to hit .300

      • Jetrer

        not saying high batting avg is bad, just saying by itself, it doesn’t mean much, it leaves out too much information

  • Pastadivingarod

    If they shift on a switchhitter why doesnt he just turn around and bat the other way?

    • Greg

      Because by the rules, once you choose a side you are locked in. So if you set up the other way, they will just shift the other way.

      • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

        Are you sure this is even a real rule?

        • Greg

          You cant change the side you’re swinging from during an at bat. Otherwise it would be a mess.

          • Jetrer

            I think you can change once … they didn’t even have a rule until Pat Venditte came along

          • IRF

            Rule 6.06
            b) a batter is out for an illegal action when… He steps from one batters box to the other while the pitcher is ready to pitch.

            You can do it all you want as long as you call time.

      • Sweet Dick Willie

        Because by the rules, once you choose a side you are locked in.

        Are you sure about this? I vaguely (mis?)remember a discussion about Vindette that he couldn’t switch arms once the at-bat started, but the batter could.

        Also, there’s this:

        http://www.baseball-excellence.com/sbaseballforums/printthread.cfm?Forum=2&Topic=6420

    • Sheepmeister

      because the defense is allowed to move around and then the batter is batting from the weaker side for the pitcher.

      • Chris

        Also, when’s the last time Tex saw right handed pitching from the right side?

  • Karl Krawfid

    Giambi and Cano man. Horrible.

  • Kostas

    Remember when Tex hit the ball towards the outfield instead of straight up in the air…it is either strike out or pop up. #20millionayear

    • Greg

      But what does this suggest about teixiera? What can you attest this to?

      • Kostas

        Aside from not being able to hit a change up (why anyone would throw anything else to him) his swing sucks. Too much upper cut.

  • Greg

    E: Sergio Mitre so I could get a hit.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Fuck elsbury went deep

  • first time lawng time

    I am so sick of the BJs. They are such a pain in the ass which doesn’t make much sense because they suck against everyone else.

    • Gerald

      Yeah those BJs really seem to rake against us

    • Jetrer

      all kinds of innuendo in that statement

    • IRF

      You used BJs, suck, and ass all in one post.

      Congratulations

    • Pastadivingarod

      You need to find the right woman

      • Jetrer

        I thinks FTLT is a woman

        • Pastadivingarod

          She needs to find the right woman

          And a camera

        • bonestock94

          Well that explains the hatred of BJs

          • Pastadivingarod

            Ohhh rim shot.

            • http://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

              Are you shitting me?

              • http://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

                Damn reply fails.

          • first time lawng time

            Okay. This thread is starting to get innappropriate.Lol

  • Obvious Pun on BJ

    I hate BJs.

    • Pastadivingarod

      Bjs are like pizza even if its a sucky supermarket pizza its still good eats.

    • first time lawng time

      What about swallows? Cardinals? Cocks? Hens?

  • Greg

    Combo of slider and fastball is deadly

  • first time lawng time

    I hate Russell Martin so much.

    • Greg

      Youre blaming him for THAT?

      • first time lawng time

        Obviously not. That would be silly.

        I hate him because of that ugly hair growing above his lip. That thing that people call “mustache.”

        They sat “mustache”; I say “ewwwwwww.”. Eh. Tomato, tomahto.

        • Pastadivingarod

          Free mustache rides

    • Yankee Fan 1

      sooo you basically like AJ and everyone else is useless. Got it. #sodumb

    • Karl Krawfid

      He is what he is. He sucks.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Overtheheadoftiexeira

  • Gerald

    WOW, Travis Snider really looks like a pedophile.

  • first time lawng time

    I bet Snider likes to live in Virginia and drives a red pickup truck and wears overalls with no shirt underneath and go on dates with women named Becky and Darlene only to find out over breakfast the next morning that their moms are sisters.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Jebus this is embarrassing.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

    These doubles are getting out of hand.

  • mt

    Outfield not looking great so far this series!

  • Jonathan Harker

    Can’t figure out why we ever let Molina go. He’s a .300 hitter and a great defender. All we have is Cervelli.

    • Greg

      he wasnt a .300 hitter when he was with us.

    • first time lawng time

      Molina a .300 hitter?

      Oh lord.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Molina never came close to hitting like this. Ever. With the Yankees or Angels.

  • Greg

    I dont know how to grade Freddy in this start so far.

  • AndrewYF

    Granderson needs a new rule: NEVER THROW HOME

  • Pastadivingarod

    Hate the jays friggin anklbitters

  • wow

    this team!!!!! just making Toronto seem like world beaters.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Poor Yanks.

  • Kostas

    Gardner misses the cutoff, Granderson throws to ???? Is this spring training?

    Down 3-1 and only 2 hits. It is important to come out of the gates hot.

  • Matt

    You have to occasionally throw the fastball, even if it’s only 86 or 87 mph.

    Garcia isn’t changing speeds on the righty hitters, and they are sitting on the breaking ball and hitting it hard repeatedly.

    Jose Molina can’t hit a fastball, yet he threw him all curveballs and sliders and hung one to allow a base hit and a run. Pretty much the only pitch that Jose Molina can hit is an offspeed pitch, yet they keep giving it to him despite not having success locating it in the inning.

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      Freddy’s fastball is pretty much an offspeed pitch

      • Matt

        You still have to throw it once in a while to keep the hittrs honest. Garcia threw 18 pitches in the inning, 4 of which were fastballs, and no fastballs with runners on base.

        Opposing teams know that he isn’t going to challenge them with runners on base, so they sit offspeed. Against lefties, his splitter is good enough to still get them to swing and miss, but his breaking ball is not sharp tonight and he doesn’t make the adjustment.

        Even at 86-87, you can induce lazy fly balls because the hitters are looking for the 79-80.

        • ItsATarp

          are you a pitching coach or something? no seriously, because every game when a player gives up a run you tell them (major leaguers) what they should have done and how they can do their jobs better.

  • Greg

    I’m goign to point this out. Yankees are 3-5 since the Mets loss and trailing.

    • ItsATarp

      utterly small sample size..good job

    • Greg

      This is after winning seven in a row. Now I have discussed momentum and I’m not trying to be a troll. I’m just bringing u a fact.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        DOOOOOOOMED.

        • Greg

          Did I say that? I was just backing up a previous point that I had made concerning momentum.

      • ItsATarp

        pointing out a random selection of games as proof of momentum is not pointing out the “facts”. Why your same logic since we finished off the first half by beating the rays, we should be winning the next few games cuz we have “momentum”.

      • first time lawng time

        They’ve sucked this month. To be blunt.

      • StanfordBen

        If we didn’t have 100 years of baseball history to look at, then this might be vaguely interesting. Fortunately, we have that history, so we can tell that the effect of momentum and streakiness in a team’s wins is insignificant at best.

      • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

        Yes, Jason Bay’s walk off hit was so scarring for this team that it’s cause us to lose to the Blue Jays two weeks later.

        • Greg

          It leads to losing trends. That’s why there are all of these choke jobs. The 95 Angels, the Mets of 08 and 09, the 78 Red Sox.

        • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

          Remember when the Rockies won the 2007 World Series because their momentum carried them against the Red Sox.

          • Greg

            Wrong because they had to sit down for few days because they manhandled the D-backs and the Red Sox went 7 games agaisnt the Indians. The momentum was negated by the rest.

            • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

              Ooh okay, sorry, Greg. Looks like the momentum has turned in this argument.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              Then how come the All-Star break didn’t negate the Yankees’ negative momentum?

              • Greg

                The Rockies break was more than 3 days.

              • ItsATarp

                no it negated our good momentum cuz you know we won 2 games prior into the ASG…then our momentum was gone…duhhh

            • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

              Remember when the Yankees won the 2004 ALCS because of the momentum from a 3-0 series lead?

              • Greg

                And when they lost game 4, it all went downhill. They were unable to stop it

                • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

                  Well if the momentum from winning the first 3 was so strong, they’d win game 4.

                  • Greg

                    David Ortiz broke the momentum.

                    • Greg

                      Twice.

              • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

                You just can’t predict MOMENTUM.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    I wish Drabek started tonight.

    • Kostas

      So he could no hit the Yankees?

  • first time lawng time

    I’m going to shut off the game now.

  • Pastadivingarod

    That was outside jeter has a legit gripe

    • Pastadivingarod

      Nowthat was a syrike

    • Karl Krawfid

      Wouldn’t have done a damn thing anyway.

      Old man can’t catch up to that kind of heat.

    • first time lawng time

      And herpes.

  • mt

    Can we get Morrow to be our #2 starter? :-)

    • Pastadivingarod

      Rather get Ubaldo

  • Kostas

    What the fuck are these hitters looking for? Thigh high down the middle? Oh wait, caught looking again. #slumpslumpslump

  • wow

    these next few games just aren’t gonna be fun. this team looks flat.

  • Hummingbird S.

    shitty offense doing work

  • wow

    just wow…

  • ItsATarp

    That loss to the Mets really made Freddy pitch like shit today

  • Will

    Blue Jays = Red Sox

    Wow. Yanks are going to have a tough time if this is how they are going to play in the second half. These two games have been horrible in all aspects. The Blue Jays are starting to scare me.

    P.S: Cashman please take notice of how the Blue Jays believe in their prospects and actually play them.

    • Kostas

      Yankees prospects are not good enough to play for the Yankees, only to be traded to other teams. #falseprophets

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      The Blue Jays play their prospects? The same team that has sent Travis Snider up and down a million times in the last two years? The one that dumped Drabek and Cecil back in the minors? Or refused to call up Adam Lind until Cito Gaston forced them to?

    • Jetrer

      easier to play prospects when you have no chance of getting to the playoffs so it does not matter what they do

    • Crime Dog

      Well this is just dumb. Talk about overreactions. This is 2 games we’re talking about. 2. Games. Everyone back off the ledge please

  • Kostas

    Game 2 – Splat!

  • Cuso

    Thames is a doubles machine. 4 in two days?

    God, the Yanks are in suck-mode again.

  • mt

    Looks like Toronto has finally figured out Freddy’s slop.

    Not surprising, I am watching Toronto feed and they said that coming into this game – even without Bautista’s .500(!!!) average against Freddy, – this lineup had a .364 batting average against him.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Get rid of freddy and colon
    Trade for Ubaldo
    Bring back nunez

  • Kostas

    so tired of mediocrity beating the Yankees.

    • Cuso

      So tired of mediocrity BEING the Yankees

      • Kostas

        it is literally feast or famine. No in between with this team.

  • Greg

    This is why Wade didnt pitch yesterday.

    • Jetrer

      so they could lose both games???… Wade not pitching yesterday has nothing to do with today

      • Greg

        Mitre would be warming right now if Wade pitched yesterday

        • Jetrer

          Relievers can pitch more than one day in a row. Wade is short reliever, so Mitre will almost definitely pitch today anyways. The game was only a two run deficit when Wade would have pitched yesterday. Instead you want to save him for a 5 run deficit???

  • Pastadivingarod

    We need to stay in this game

    • wow

      are you watching the same game I am?

  • James A

    Garcia and Colon have done a great job helping the Yankees keep their heads well above water, but I think we all knew counting on them for a full season was a lot to ask
    I’m not saying either should lose their jobs, but Cashman I’m sure is doing his due diligence looking at every SP option

  • Your mom

    This team is on it’s way to another shitless second half. Hopefully Cashman has the fucking balls to pull the trigger on frontline starter this year.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Why not go home on that

  • Your mom

    Pleas hit a HR, so I can go out and party.

  • Kostas

    well boys, have to win the next two so you don’t lose the series.

  • Gerald

    Really nice of Freddy and Bart to turn back into pumpkins at the same time.

  • Pastadivingarod

    The mets have had garcia cursed forbthat little strole in fron the pen during a game dammed mets

  • Your mom

    Freddy and Sergio can go fuck themselves

  • ItsATarp

    Freddy Garcia pitching like shit cuz of momentum and not throwing enough fastballs…season over. Trade for Ubaldo. Call up every prospect. Retire Jeter. Fire Girardi. Fire Cashman.

  • mbonzo

    So sloppy.

  • Your mom

    IBB to Encarnacion? WTF???

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    What was the point of warming Wade up?

  • Pastadivingarod

    Nice yankees suck chant
    This is going to be redsox b very soon the will start to throw at us too

  • Your mom

    I’m praying for Ubaldo, a real LOOGY and a healthy A-rod……..This team is doomed otherwise.

  • Matt

    The Yankees are beating themselves in these games far more than Toronto is outplaying them.

    Sloppy defense, stupid pitching, and horrible at bats with runners on base. Toronto has had 7 more baserunners than the Yankees in this game, yet only 1 more AB with RISP.

    How about they get fired up for once against Toronto instead of taking it over and over? If you are so upset that guys are stealing signs (which it looks like they are possibly still doing), then you throw it behind the first batter and make them move their feet.

    The Yankees if they lose tonight will be 15-15 against the AL East, which is pretty weak when you consider that they have something like 50 games left against the East.

    • Your mom

      Like I said, DOOMED!

  • Kostas

    At this point, it is like Cashman has been collecting has-beens in hopes of getting a really nice Christmas present, or he is just ensuring he is not the GM next year.

    • CS Yankee

      Because Werth, Crawford & Pavano is what was available but he choose not to sign them?

      • Kostas

        Atta boy think like a Yankee fan, go buy everything. Here is a thought, player development – no wait you were correct, I forget about the Joba rules. #nodevelopmentYanks

        • CS Yankee

          You comment was about collecting has-beens.

          Your rant is stupid, because;
          1) The order where we draft…usually real late because we are winners!
          2) His IFA signings have been great…see Cano, Montero, etc.
          3) They have moved up to a top 5-6 farm system under his helm.
          4) When they haven’t harvest the development (Hughes, Joba, IPK, etc) they have either stuck with them or traded for key players (i.e. Granderson).
          5) He has plucked quality where no team has looked much at (Ace, JoVa)

          Because his 2011 retread have done extremly well (less the last two nights) and you seem to be pissed about that.

          Grow up, kid.

      • FIPster Doofus

        To be fair, Cashman didn’t choose not to sign Pavano. Carl chose to take Minnesota’s offer. New York was very much interested.

        • CS Yankee

          Only due to cash making it a year offer…raise the money, add a year and he is here.

          BTW, I’m glad he is not here.

          • FIPster Doofus

            I am too.

    • ItsATarp

      It’s worked so far. Having two bad games does not negate the fact they have done well uptil now.

  • Kostas

    Tex strikes out. Shocked I tell ya, SHOCKED.

  • James A

    Admittedly when you watch Brandon Morrow pitch and you watch Freddy Garcia pitch, it’s not that surprising that the Blue Jays are winning.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Sunday ticket free with direct tv not fair i already have dtv

  • Greg

    I remember hearing from Michael Kay that the Yankees have only won championships in bunches, they have never had a one and done championship. Well, if thats true then the 2009 championship should signal more.

    • ItsATarp

      Listening to Michael Kay’s “facts” may cause tumors

      • Greg

        But looking at research he is right.

        • ItsATarp

          Not everything can be considered “research”. a Random collection of data is not research. simply saying winning a WS one year is is a sign they will win one again soon doesn’t say much. You have to factor in team talent, competition talent, other factors etc.

  • Irrational Yankees Fan

    I blame Kenny Lofton.

  • Your mom

    Girardi should seriously consider swapping CC and Hughes this weekend. Gotta at least win 1 of these games. Nice to know we play 4 at Tampa next week too. This will be a long ass week.

  • Tut

    Tex is morphing into Steve Balboni

    • Kostas

      dear god, that means the mustache is next…

  • Matt

    Garcia is at 95 pitches and this game is over. Why would you take him out and burn one of your few decent relievers in Wade in this spot? What if you need him for the next 3 days in a row?

    • Greg

      Who else is there? Girardi was forced to burn the pen yesterday.

      • Matt

        Did you even bother to read the first sentence of my post?

        • Greg

          Garcia is 3 someodd years old and was doing nothing.

          • Matt

            Again, this game is already over. Leave him in there to eat up innings and to save the bullpen after last night’s game. He could have given you at least one more, and then you just throw Mitre in there for the rest of it and DFA him tomorrow morning.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              Did you watch the fourth and fifth inning? What makes you think Garcia could get three outs in 15-20 pitches?

              • Matt

                It doesn’t matter. You have to squeeze as many innings out of him as you can after last night’s debacle. I’m not saying to push him to 120 pitches, but 105-110 was certainly reasonable. Every extra out that you can get out of him is one less that the pen has to throw.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                  One extra out makes negligible difference. That’s ridiculous.

                  • Matt

                    Or, he could have gone out there and thrown a 10 pitch 1-2-3 inning and saved the pen a bit.

                    You really don’t know, and this game was pretty much already over at that point. Saving a guy like Wade an additional inning could contribute more to a future win than Garcia’s absence to tonight’s game.

        • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

          The Yankees have scored 7 runs in a game this year.

          • Matt

            Brandon Morrow is in there for at least another inning because they haven’t worked him hard enough in the last few innings. This game is pretty much over.

            It’s not “giving up,” it’s being realistic. Why waste useful arms in a game in which their performance can’t make much of a difference? If you were going to bring in Wade, it should have been with the bases loaded and nobody out and the score 3-1. Otherwise, it’s too late.

    • Your mom

      Should’ve thrown in the Mitre towel.

      • Matt

        Should have just brought him in to pitch the 7th and 8th and then DFA. Why waste potentially useful arms in a game which is likely already over?

  • Tut

    Texiera is morphing into Steve Balboni

    • Nuke LaDoosh

      stop that

  • Tut

    Texiera is becoming Steve Balboni

    • Nuke LaDoosh

      Tex is not becoming Frank Messer’s boy. Just stop.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Go get ubaldo
    Cc
    Ubaldo
    Burnett
    Hughes
    Nova
    Colon lr

    • Kostas

      Ulbaldo would get lit up in the AL East. Remember right now he pitches in the NL West. Repeat NL West.

      • Greg

        What about Garza?

        • Your mom

          What about Felix?????

          • Greg

            Garza is attainable unlike Felix.

            • Your mom

              Cash will trade for Felix or Ubaldo.

              • Your mom

                or both

            • Matt

              The Cubs are not going to trade Garza. They are already short on starting pitching, and he is under team control and relatively affordable still.

              The Yankees are not getting a front line starter this year, and they shouldn’t try, because the cost is too high. There are too many teams that think they are contenders, and not enough sellers.

              The Pirates even are just a game out of first place. Very few teams are looking to dismantle.

              • Greg

                If the Red Sox get Garza, I’m blaming you

              • FIPster Doofus

                I wouldn’t rule out the Yanks getting Jimenez.

                • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

                  Ninja Cashman

                  • Your mom

                    ninja boots

                • CS Yankee

                  Which would be a great move.

                  I think he is top 10 pitcher over the last few years…if can’t argue he’s not top 15.

                  Very likely that;
                  a) No one better is available
                  b) He can get us on the same page as others come postseason.

                  Our window is limited somewhat with Jeter & Arod declining skills but staying around; which I understand and agree with for the most part.

      • Pastadivingarod

        He shut us down didnt he.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Dan Haren also came from the NL West.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Based on what? Your imagination? Would be nice if you provided some supporting data.

        • CS Yankee

          He’s one of the crazy dozen or so that comment here it seems.

          I’m heading home, fight the good fight!

  • Greg

    Jetrer

    If Wade gives up runs, your arguement for yesterday is moot

    • Jetrer

      runs today don’t mean runs yesterday, you can’t possibly argue Logan and Mitre were a better choice than Wade yesterday

  • Tut

    Cmon Tex

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    The whole team looks flat. But, I just can’t justify giving up starts to Garcia when decent young talent ( Nova and Noesi) could be starting. This has nothing to do with the last two games. The Yankees have gotten as much as possible from Colon and Garcia. Colon apprehensive about his hammy then don’t play him. If he believes that it could pop then he should be sitting on the bench or DL.

    Its apparent that one of our top prospects will be packing his bags by the end of July as Freddie and Bart continue to throw batting practice.

    Now, Wade shows us why he was picked up off the scrape heap.

    • Jetrer

      “Now, Wade shows us why he was picked up off the scrape heap.”

      He’s actually been solid. Give credit where it is do.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      So Garcia gets hit around in his first start and 12 days, and he should be cut?

      • ItsATarp

        Yes..perfectly logical

  • Pastadivingarod

    For gods sake dfa mitre bring up romero

    • Your mom

      DFA Freddy. If we’re gonna lose might as well play the young guys. I’d rather see Warren, Nova, Noesi or Phelps get a shot.

  • Kostas

    I want the 2009 Yankees where come backs were possible. Not this “down by 4+ runs, just get through the game shit”

    • Greg

      That’s what I’ve been asking for all season.

  • wow

    so glad Cory is in there to keep us in the game.

    • Your mom

      We’re still in the game?

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Gameday says “on field delay” what happened?

    • mbonzo

      Sprinter.

    • Matt

      Somebody ran onto the field. YES didn’t show it or discuss it much though other than to acknowledge that it was happening.

  • first time lawng time

    LMAO. Ummm maybe the Yankees should score some runs and their pitchers shouldn’t suck? Hahaha

    well, AJ is tomorrow, so one of those things will happen.

    Also, call up Nova and put Hughes in the bullpen.

    • Greg

      I think CC is tomorrow against Romero.

      • first time lawng time

        This is the second day in a row this has happened to me.

        Where the fuck is AJ? That’s why this team is losing. They need AJ. GET. ME. AJ!!!!!

        • Jetrer

          AJ is the fifth starter

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      CC’s tomorrow

  • Greg

    Speaking of the Rays we could be in 3rd by the end of next week. Oh what fun.

    • Jetrer

      Speaking of the Rays, we could be in 1st by the end of next week. Oh what fun.

      • Greg

        True. but looking at the way we’re playing right now…

  • Mojo

    Pedroia and Ellsbury both with 12 HRs? Damn. Even without Crawford, the RS have the best lineup in baseball. Right now their pitching kind of sucks, but honestly, how can anyone see the Yankees beating out the Sox for a World Series trip? Hopefully, and I sincerely do hope, Boston is on an offensive tear that will soon calm down because 1-5, they are as good as I’ve ever seen. Our 1-5, on the other hand, is, more often than not, pretty shitty. Bring on all the scornful remarks but I dare say I speak the truth.

    • Greg

      THe Phillies are much better than they are. And the NL had home field.

      • CS Yankee

        Put down the crack pipe.

        The Phillies rule with SP, bats are decent, bullpen blows.

        • Greg

          Rumors are swirling that the Phillies are going after Heath Bell.

      • Mojo

        Pitching, yes, but offensively the Sox are actually quite scary. I honestly thought that Pedroia was done after last season but I stand very much corrected. Throw in a healthy, “normal” Crawford and this lineup is unstoppable. Hell, even Salty and Varitek contribute, and WTF is with Reddick? Why can they bring up shitty AAAers that over-perform like crazy but we can’t? Like I’ve been advocating ALL season, this team (the Yankees) need a hot, beefy, youth injection. They NEED a young bat in their lineup to spark this shit up, ESPECIALLY without A-Rod. If EVER there were a time for Montero, it is now. I have no doubt about it.

        • Greg

          San Fran showed us last year that good pitching beats good hitting.

    • Your mom

      FUCK BOSTON!!!!!

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Boston is definitely the better team. All the Yankees need to do is make it into the postseason and hope for some playoff magic. Tis all.

      • Mojo

        While I wish to the almighty Mo that I eat crow, this is not the Yankees’ year. The least that I can do/hope is that it’s NOT Boston’s year. I honestly didn’t foresee Garcia and Colon collapsing so soon (if that’s even what’s happening – although Freddy can’t seem to pitch to powerful offenses), but there’s just so much missing with the Yankees. How about a CONSISTENT bat outside of Cano? That would be MARVELOUS! Or maybe a pitcher behind CC . . . And then there’s Teixera. I could an entire treatise about how much dick he sucks in the 3-hole, but I won’t. This team is NOT built for a championship, plain and simple. Gimme Prince Fielder, Jesus, and an Ace-ish pitcher behind Sabathia and THEN I’ll start thinking otherwise, but until such dreams are fulfilled . . . consider me a non-believer amidst the current state of Yankee affairs.

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    Food for thought, Freddie Garcia prior to tonight’s game has a better whip than Ubaldo 1.2+ as opposed to 1.3+. NL West to AL East

  • Matt

    Russell Martin, since May 1st, is hitting .186/.298/.286 (not including tonight’s game).

    At some point, it’s going to be tough to continue to play him no matter how good his defense has been.

    With A-Rod out for at least a month, they need offense out of their starters, and Martin is a black hole right now in the lineup. No matter how mediocre Montero may be defensively or how “uninterested” he could be in AAA, they should really give him a chance when he comes back off of the DL. Martin is KILLING THEM offensively, and they can’t afford that right now.

    • ItsATarp

      You know this is one of the few things i agree with you on

    • LarryM.,Fl.

      Can Montero call a game? Catching has become more of a defensive position and offensive liability.

      • Matt

        I don’t know, but the Yankees don’t really have pitchers that hold runners anyway. They have allowed the 5th most stolen bases in the American League, and it seems like a lot of them are off of the pitchers.

        Martin’s defense is only so valuable when his on base percentage is higher than his slugging percentage over a 2 1/2 month period. At the very least, you could break him in for 2-3 games a week at catcher (Posada at DH) and 2-3 games per week at DH (Martin catches).

        I’m sure that everyone loves Russell Martin, but he is killing them right now. With A-Rod out, they need more offense, and Martin can’t provide much of it.

  • Kostas

    Yep. Yanks have laid down. Pathetic.

  • ItsATarp

    the 2009 yankees never lost 2 games to the blue jays…in fact i don’t remember them losing games at all

    • Greg

      They went 52-22 in the second half. These Yankees need to go 52 and 20 to match.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        That is a ridiculously stupid standard to hold them too.

        • Greg

          For Yankees fans, it WS or bust every year. Is that not a ridiculously stupid standard as well?

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            Yes. Completely unrealistic. Hard to take you seriously, frankly.

            Be competitive every year, which they absolutely are, and whatever happens in the playoffs happens.

      • ItsATarp

        why do we have to match them? We make the postseason with 90+ wins is fine by me. the Goal is to win a WS, who cares about comparing regular season record with past teams.

        • Greg

          The way we’re playing right now, we’re not a lock to make the postseason.

          • ItsATarp

            No team is locked to make the post season right now…We’re still 1.5 games from the Rsox and the third best record in baseball…but by all mean keep panicking

            • Greg

              Its hard to sit through the losing.

              • ItsATarp

                every team loses. Be happy your a fan of a team that usually wins more than loses. By your standard every fan of any other team should have a razor blade to their wrist right now since not many teams have lost less than the yankees.

              • first time lawng time

                Greg, buy a puppy.

                What’s wrong if they lose? What will happen to you? You’ll have to hear it from ESPN? No, don’t watch ESPN. Watch Keeping Up with the Kardashians or Teen Mom or Wendy Williams.

                • Greg

                  Well, it gives me some self confidence.

                  • ItsATarp

                    Alcohol is better

                    • Simon

                      Crack measures up too.

                • FIPster Doofus

                  TV show suggestions don’t get any worse than those three.

  • stuart a

    tex is playing like crap. under 240 BA.

    martin is down to 214….

    there offense is half asleep. spare me the tip the hat routine….

  • first time lawng time

    Mariners, Tigers, Royals, White Sox, Blue Jays, Red Sox.

    What do those things have in common? They are all teams who the Yankees have lost or split series to that were sub .500 at the time.

  • Matt

    It’s really telling that only 2 hitters in tonight’s lineup for the Yankees are batting at least .270 (Cano and Nunez). 5 hitters in Boston’s lineup tonight are over that level.

    Not one batter in tonight’s starting lineup is hitting over .300 right now. Toronto has 3, Tampa has 1, and Boston has 3.

    It’s hard to get hits with RISP when you don’t get that many hits in general. The offense looks an awful lot like last year’s bully bunch. They either all hit or all struggle at the same time. They are such a streaky club at the plate, and it really reflects on their often inconsistent approach.

    • Greg

      Well Fenway has something to do with that. but your point is noted.

    • Jetrer

      “They either all hit or all struggle at the same time.”

      You mean the opposing pitcher either has a good game or a bad game?
      Wow, that’s earth shattering

      • Matt

        No, not even close, but thanks once again for your constructive post.

        If this team leaves a bunch of runners on and doesn’t score early, they shut down and don’t score until the 5th or 6th inning. If they get one or two base hits with RISP, the whole lineup jumps on the pile and they score in bunches.

        They live and die together. Very rarely do you see 2 or 3 hitters hot with 2 or 3 hitters cold. They are either all hot or all cold. And no, it’s not because of one pitcher when it happens for a week or two at a time.

        • Jetrer

          your welcome,
          and the leaving guys on early and then getting shut down is most often due to a good pitcher settling into a groove, like Morrow tonight

          • Matt

            Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Have you watched this team play this year?

            Brad Penny is a good pitcher? Vin Mazzaro? Rick Porcello? Carlos Villanueva? Ervin Santana? Doug Davis? Carlos Carrasco (clobbered in his last two starts vs NYY and Tor).

            And even if the pitcher is good, it doesn’t mean that he is good on that night. Morrow was excellent tonight. Ubaldo Jimenez a few weeks ago? Not really.

            • Jetrer

              I’m not arguing for the sake of arguing, and I’m not saying that every pitcher that shuts down the Yankees have been great. Weak pitchers do sometimes pitch good games (see Freddy Garcia). Good teams do sometimes struggle offensively. I just think its ridiculous that you are complaining so much about the second best offense in the league.

    • Jetrer

      and BTW, the Yankees and Red Sox are tied in wRC+ with RISP and only .002 apart and .wOBA, and the Yankees have scored a higher percentage of their baserunners … guess all those .300 hitters aren’t helping the Sox all that much

      • Matt

        Are you serious?

        The Red Sox lineup is 5 batters deep, FIVE, and they are nearly equal in production to the “vaunted” “circular” Yankees lineup. I’d say that their .300 hitters are helping them quite a LOT, since 3 of those 5 hitters are batting over .300.

        • Jetrer

          Who says the Yankee lineup is circular????? Jeter,Martin, Posada. That is no more circular than Boston’s lineup. I’m not saying that those hitter don’t help the Sox, obviously they do. You made a point about it making a big difference with team RISP. I have proven that that is not the case.

          • Matt

            You are misinterpreting your own numbers though. The Red Sox 6-9 are simply terrible right now, due to injury and JD Drew.

            Their top 5 in the order would blow the Yankees away in most of those categories, even though the Yankees on paper should have just as dynamic a middle of the order. That’s the difference that I am citing. The Yankees are deeper, but not as dangerous because they have more holes in their swings.

            • Jetrer

              I’m not going to continue this, because you keep changing your point every time I prove you wrong. I have better things to do with my time.

              • Matt

                I have not changed my point once in this thread.

                The Yankees have underachieved offensively because of a huge decline in the batting averages of key players. The Red Sox have a significantly more dangerous top of the lineup because they are more consistent as a result of hitting for more average.

                You have not proven anything in this thread, because you are misusing your own numbers. If the Red Sox are equal in nearly every offensive category, but have horrible hitters in 4 slots in the batting order, then that means that they are SIGNIFICANTLY better at the top of the order than this club. The Yankees on paper should have the hitters to match them, but they aren’t performing.

                • Jetrer

                  ‘Not one batter in tonight’s starting lineup is hitting over .300 right now. Toronto has 3, Tampa has 1, and Boston has 3.
                  It’s hard to get hits with RISP when you don’t get that many hits in general
                  This was the point I was responding too. I proved that the Red Sox having more .300 hitters has not really given them an advantage overall with RISP. Holes in swings and what part of who’s lineup is doing better has nothing to do with the team’s overall RISP production, which is what I was responding to.

                  • Matt

                    You are really clueless.

                    You continue to reference a team’s overall numbers, yet you conveniently ignore the fact that the Red Sox numbers are dragged down tremendously by having the worst 6-9 in the entire division, by plenty.

                    If the Red Sox numbers are virtually identical to the Yankee numbers with almost no contributions from 5-9, that means that their first five hitters are MUCH better than the Yankees. They are more consistent because of their high batting average.

                    The Red Sox top of the order is far more dangerous than any combination of hitters you could put together from this Yankees lineup. With the game on the line, they are much harder to get out because they have fewer holes in their swings.

                    The Red Sox ARE a much better team with RISP. The top 5 in their order are murdering pitchers in the clutch at a well above average pace, and their 6-9 are as bad as we expected. The Yankees, on the other hand, are consistently mediocre in those spots outside of Eduardo Nunez and Alex Rodriguez.

                    • Jetrer

                      Yankees RISP and Red Sox RISP are IDENTICAL in wRC+. Yankees have scored a higher percentage of their baserunners. I’m not arguing that the Red Sox best haven’t been better than the Yankees best. They clearly have been. ALL NINE SPOTS IN THE ORDER DO HAVE TO BAT, so team totals are the only thing that matters. The 6-9 hitters do come up with the game on the line as well. You can’t compare two TEAMS, and completely ignore half of the lineups. And BTW, the Red Sox have better numbers out of the 6 and 9 slots than the Yankees do.

                    • Matt

                      I am not saying they are a better overall lineup. I’m pointing out that because they have hitters who hit for a higher average, they are scoring just as many runs with a much shallower lineup.

                      That is why I am telling you that the Yankees are UNDERACHIEVING. The Red Sox have a lineup that is 5 deep and are scoring just as many runs as the Yankees.

                      The Yankees, on paper, should have hitters capable of matching the numbers of many of their top 5, yet instead of hitting .300, they are hitting .270, or instead of .350, they are hitting .240. The lack of base hits makes you a much streakier team. When you score runs, they tend to come in bunches and on home runs, but if you don’t hit them, you struggle to find other ways to get it done.

                    • Matt

                      Last sentence of the first post in this thread:

                      “They are such a streaky club at the plate, and it really reflects on their often inconsistent approach.”

                      This has been the argument in the entire thread, and is still my argument now.

                      Low batting average is indicative of more streaky players. Just like how a .500 team may not always look mediocre. Toronto is a .500 team, but on some nights they look like a playoff caliber team, and on others like a last place team. They can still get it done sometimes, but they don’t get it done as often.

                    • Jetrer

                      I have never said the Yankee lineup is not underachieving, although only a few are, relative to expected performance, you could say Tex(only in avg. though, and he tends to be better in second half anyways) and maybe Martin(really wasn’t expecting much from him this year anyways.

                    • Matt

                      The hitters in this year’s lineup that I’d argue have underachieved:

                      Jeter- production still way down, thought he’d bounce back at least a little

                      Teixeira- Batting average down even more, and was hoping for a bounce back in that department since last year’s was based on his first 2-3 months of horrid performance. He’s become home run or nothing.

                      A-Rod- Power has been absent as a result of injuries. Given how he started in April with his swing, it’s a huge disappointment.

                      Cano- Batting average down 20 points from last year, and plate discipline has reverted to pre-2010 levels.

                      Posada- Horrible start, and not hitting at all from the right side

                      Swisher- Horrible start, but coming around lately (still, overall numbers are a bit down).

                      Martin- Triple slash is something like .185/.285/.280 since April. Pretty much a black hole since his one hot streak.

                      Obviously it depends on your expectations of them, but relative to their careers, these are pretty disappointing seasons.

                    • Matt

                      And from another one of your posts in this thread:

                      ““how much the Yankees have underachieved offensively these last few years”
                      If having the best offense in baseball over that time period is underachieving, then yes, you are correct sir.”

                      So yes, you have tried to brush off the underachieving remarks.

                    • Jetrer

                      Jeter is about where I expected him to be. I think he is in permanent decline.
                      Tex – agree on average, everything else has been fine though, hoping he’ll pickup the avg second half.
                      ARod – getting old as well, don’t expect him to be dominant or be able to stay healthy, overall he’s actually been a bit better than I expected.
                      Swish – Just about back to career avg. wRC+ after horrible start
                      Cano – I think last year may have been career best for him. He still has second highest wRC+ of career now.
                      Martin – had low expectations, but he has been awful lately, hopefully can bounce back
                      Posada – old and adjusting to DH didn’t bode well for him this year

      • Matt

        When you see what the Red Sox top of the order has done this year, it really shows you how much the Yankees have underachieved offensively these last few years.

        Teixeira, A-Rod, and Cano could be just as dynamic as Gonzalez, Youkilis, and Ortiz, but 2 of those 3 hitters have seen a significant decline in batting average this season which has made them much less dangerous.

        • Jetrer

          “how much the Yankees have underachieved offensively these last few years”
          If having the best offense in baseball over that time period is underachieving, then yes, you are correct sir.

          • Matt

            Just because they were the best last year doesn’t mean they couldn’t have been better.

            Teixeira had a horrible first half, A-Rod had a mediocre year until September, Jeter was hitting .260 into September, Granderson was useless until August, Posada hit .200 for a 3 month stretch in the middle of the season… Do I need to keep going?

            Yes, they scored a lot of runs, but do you really think that they couldn’t have done more given how many players had down years? All of those down years at the same time are the difference between the 2010 streaky type offense and a more consistent 2009 type club.

            • Jetrer

              “Just because they were the best last year doesn’t mean they couldn’t have been better.”
              Really! You don’t say!
              You can say that about any team, any time, any year. No team has every player have a career year in one season.

              • Matt

                What are you talking about?

                The Yankees had 5 players with career WORST seasons last year, and 2 of those 5 players were under 30 and still in their primes.

                With the talent that they had, they could have been a GREAT offensive club, but they were merely GOOD because of having many off seasons at the same time. They definitely underachieved, and I don’t understand how you continue to miss this obvious point.

                • Jetrer

                  ummm, not to let facts get in the way or anything, but the only regulars with career worst years last year (overall offense, not just BA, I’m using wOBA, which is much more indicative of offensive value) were ARod and Jeter, both older players in decline

                  • Matt

                    You are seriously trying to lecture me on offensive performance? Where have I said that batting average is the most important measure of production? I’m pointing out that a decline in batting average with little change in the other levels of production is indicative of a decline in CONSISTENCY.

                    And if we want to look at numbers, how about we try using wRC+, which adjusts for the league average:

                    A-Rod- 124 in 2010, 144 in 2009 (2010 was worst year since 1997)

                    Teixeira- 127 in 2010, 142 in 2009 (2010 was worst year since 2006, and only worse season was his first year in the bigs)

                    Granderson- 113 in 2010, Only worse season since 2006 was his 102 in 2009.

                    Jeter- 95 in 2010, 135 in 2009, worst year of career other than his 15 games in 1995

                    4 key cogs in the lineup had pretty down years in 2010, and 2 of them were in the primes of their careers still.

                    • Jetrer

                      You just said 5 had career worst years and then follow up the rebuttal by pointing out it was only 1. Nice. From 5 having career worst to 4 having down years. Glad you take the time to check your facts before you post. And wRC+ is based on wOBA. I only used wOBA to show exact production, not production relative to the league.

                    • Matt

                      The fifth players (Posada) only didn’t see that kind of decline because of his insane April numbers. From May 1st on, Posada hit .237/.351/.422, which is a pretty down performance by his standards. In March/April he had a 177 wRC+, and was far below that for the rest of the season.

                      And when I said “career worst” season, I wasn’t obviously being 100% literal in that remark. The declines for many of these players were TREMENDOUS, and represented some of the worst seasons that these players have had in their careers.

                      Jeter went from one of the best offensive players in the league to below average. Teixeira and A-Rod saw their performance decline by 20 percentage points relative to the league average (aka the difference between Granderson and Jeter last year).

                      Granderson’s numbers were also significantly bolstered by the last month of the season. Through August 31st, he was hitting .248/.315/.432.

                      The key was also the lack of consistency. Teixeira was non-existent for the first 2.5 months of last season, which hurt the lineup a lot during that stretch. You can get to the same level of production in many ways, and it would have been more valuable to spread it around.

                    • Matt

                      On the same point, consider that Posada and Granderson were also nonexistent for a few months in the middle of the season.

                      The streakiness, on top of the diminished overall production, made the lineup a lot weaker than it should have been last season.

  • ItsATarp

    Girardi decides to end the game early

    • Greg

      Its 6-1, the game is virtually over.

  • Monteroisdinero

    You can run on the Yanks, you can get Tex out with changeups and you can get Cano to swing at almost any pitch that doesn’t hit him. Properly done-Yanks very beatable. Also, once Mitre warms up, you can enjoy your efforts!

    I agree it is time for some youth and energy. Montero and Golson will be fine.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Properly done – every team is very beatable.

  • Rockstar4Life

    So nice to have Mitre back. He loves to bring the lulz.

  • James A

    Whatever photos Mitre has of Girardi, they’ve got to be pretty bad. I’m talking coke, hookers, like end of the Hangover photos. It’s the only explanation

    • Sergio Mitre

      Shhh…nobody’s supposed to know that.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Perhaps my new favorite comment?

  • Crime Dog

    I hope this is the last we’ve seen of The Experience. I understand he’s the 25th man and all, but man you can’t tell me Buddy Carlyle can’t do better. Or maybe we’d all rather see a 2nd lefty take that spot in Romero. But man, this is brutal

  • Greg

    We could trade Martin (and other prospects) to Colorado for Jimenez and open the door for Motero

    • FIPster Doofus

      Because Colorado would totally do that.

      • Greg

        Depends on the other prospects.

        • Jetrer

          why would they want Martin??

          • Greg

            Good point. Just throwing out suggestions.

        • Crime Dog

          If they’re trading Ubaldo they’re gonna want cost controlled guys. And the Yankees top prospect. All starts with Montero

      • IRF

        Martin, Jorge Vazquez, Yeicock, Krum, and Igawa.

        Make it happen Cash

    • Crime Dog

      IPK+Melky!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Colorado already has two good catchers.

      • Greg

        Iannetta has been a disappointment and alonzo is a backup

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Yeah, Chris Iannetta and his .373 OBP has been a real disappointment.

        • FIPster Doofus

          Iannetta > Martin.

      • Crime Dog

        I’ll take one Ianetta.
        780 OPS outta the Catchers spot is nice huh?

  • Cuso

    M.A., Your opinion?

    Is this team too “veteran” or too “above” having a closed-door meeting, reaming-out by Girardi?

    I know we’ve all said they served little purpose, but strategically timed may have value?

    (p.s. I’m not asking trolls opinions)

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Am I M.A.?

      • Cuso

        yessir

    • Pasqua

      I’m no “M.A.,” but why would he be inclined to do that two games into the second half, AND following a pretty good stretch of baseball leading up to the All-Star Break?

      I would think teams are allowed to suck lose a couple before the manager turns to lighting a fire under their asses or reaming them out, ugly losses or not.

      • Cuso

        i know thats the natural inclination. but :

        1) they were cruddy going into the break
        2) they’re not necessarily ‘slumping,’ right now. it’s more ‘sloppy’ & poor ‘plate approaches
        3) if I were Girardi I’d be a little concerned about the “we’ll pick it up when A-Rod gets back mentality
        4) completely different team, but Torre did it with a1-3 team in the 4th game of the season inn 98

        I thik that if anyone OTHER than CC was starting tomorrow it would happen.

        Furttherrmore, iff CC loses tomorrow & the Yanks play crappy, i think it will happen.

  • Ryan

    I can’t believe the equipment manager keeps screwing up and giving Mitre a baseball glove instead of his personalized white flag.

  • Simon

    Right when we needed it….

  • IRF

    Those rowdy Canadians are at it again.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    another on field delay? another fan on the field?

  • Crime Dog

    Let’s see CC put up a patented ace performance tomorrow. Save the ledge-jumpers. Maybe Cashman will get serious about getting a starter after this. Dempster would be the safest bet I’d say

  • Crime Dog

    The guys running on the field are smart. They think, hey, if Mitres on the field I belong there too

    • Mojo

      Hahahahahahaha!

    • bonestock94

      LOL

  • Mojo

    Only 2 batters over .270 – Now THAT is a Championship caliber lineup. BRAVISIMO!

    • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

      OBP >>>> BA

      And last time I checked, there were three. Granderson, A-Rod and Cano. But a bunch more in the .260’s with high OBP’s, which you conviently left out.

      • Mojo

        Okay . . . Now compare that to the Red Sox lineup, which you CONVENIENTLY left out, by the way. You also CLEARLY forgot to mention that Meryl Streep is a two time Academy Award winner. Also, you failed to recall the little tidbit about the Magna Carta being written in 1215. HOW DARE YOU! And I can’t believe you neglected that South Sudan is now a COUNTRY!!! OMG!

      • Matt

        On the whole, yes, but you are a much streakier club when you hit for a low batting average. Many of the hitters in this lineup have seen their averages drop over nearly 50 points in the last few years, which is why they are relying more and more on the home run to score.

        They are still a pretty good offensive club, but not necessarily a dominant one anymore. Hitters such as Teixeira and Jeter have many more holes in their swings now than a few years ago. When pitchers are attacking your lineup more, it also affects your ability to draw walks.

        • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

          In case you haven’t noticed, offense around the league has crashed.

          • Matt

            In 2009 they were 2nd in the AL in batting average. In 2010 they were 7th. This year, they are 6th.

            Even in a down league, they have still slipped relative to their peers in terms of getting base hits.

            The tremendous declines in batting average of key players such as Teixeira and Jeter has likely been a major factor in the inconsistency of the lineup at times.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    I hope Gardner gets his hand stepped on next time he does that.

    • mike c

      why? he might be one of the only MLB players that could have gotten to first on that hit

  • mike c

    killer AB by gardner

  • nunez fan

    Where’s the Nunez haters now? Yeah, that’s what I thought. And bring up Montero please.

    • mike c

      I don’t hate him, I just hate the way he fields his positions

  • 45yearyanksfan

    can someone tell me why sabathia did not start on 4 days rest?

  • Pastadivingarod

    Cervelli is just a waste on the bench need to upgrade catcher and martin needs days off.

  • Mojo

    Okay . . . Now compare that to the Red Sox lineup, which you CONVENIENTLY left out, by the way. You also CLEARLY forgot to mention that Meryl Streep is a two time Academy Award winner. Also, you failed to recall the little tidbit about the Magna Carta being written in 1215. HOW DARE YOU! And I can’t believe you neglected that South Sudan is now a COUNTRY!!! OMG! Blow me?

    • Mojo

      Reply FAIL!!!

    • ItsATarp

      Who gives a fuck

      • Mojo

        Barbara Streisand, that’s who! Barbara FUCKING Streisand GIVES A FUCK!

        • ItsATarp

          I say that shit just clownin’ dog. C’mon, how fucked up is you? You got some issues Stan. I think you need some counseling, to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some.

          • Mojo

            Did I quote something without knowing it? I’m not sure. For some reason BS just popped up in my head. It seems you responded with a quote of your own!

            • ItsATarp

              just like you i’ve decided to type the first thing that came into my mind.

              Tacos

              • Mojo

                Eminem?

                • ItsATarp

                  that that time yes. Right now i really want some tacos

  • paul a

    ok the colon -garcia thing was nice while it lasted. now its time to go out and get some real pitching.

  • Yanksfan

    I am incredibly tired of Tex. I don’t get how he gets this free pass with his complete inability to hit good pitching.

    I am the last person in the world to defend A-Rod, but if A-rod had had this kind of of performance in his first few years, he would get absolutely roasted, whereas Tex skates by and people point to his obp and good glove.

    Tex is a good player overall, absolutely. He is NOT an elite player and he is NOT a three hitter for a supposedly elite team. His swing is absolutely the same every single time, no matter what the pitch and no matter what the circumstance. He is just not a three hitter.

    enough already with him…PLEASE move him down to the five hole and expect Tino-like production. Nothing wrong with Tino-like production, but it is what it is.