Jul
15
Game 90: Gotta get down with Freddy
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I hate myself for that title. Here’s the lineup…
Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Nick Swisher, RF
Jorge Posada, DH
Russell Martin, C
Brett Gardner, LF
Eduardo Nunez, 3B
Freddy Garcia, SP
The game starts a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on My9 locally or MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.
Joey Bats Update: Blue Jays manager John Farrell told reporters before today’s game that Jose Bautista is likely to miss the rest of the series after twisting his ankle last night. “Optimistically Sunday, realistically Tuesday,” he said. That’s unfortunate, you know. It really is. Such a shame. Like is so unfair.
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We caught a break with Bautista missing the rest of the series. Now hopefully we can win the rest of this series.
You shouldn’t. It’s one of my favorite memes for this site. Of all the different kinds of posters we have here, I can’t think of a single one that would genuinely like that song (without tongue planted firmly in cheek). Therefore, continued references remain hilariously out of place.
Partying, partying, YEAH!
Always appropriate when Freddy takes the ball on a Friday.
Well, let’s just be glad he didn’t say “Gotta get down on Freddy.”
I don’t think Rebecca Black is old enough to do that.
In toronto for the game. Sweaty Freddy baby!
Nobody’s playing 3rd base, just like last night.
Price for the Rays against the Sux. Hoping for a gem there. He still has nightmares after giving up the mammoth DJ3K.
I think he is fine, he is man enough to sign all those i gave up the 3k hit.
I hate the mindset I get in when an opposing team is missing their biggest threat.
I foolishly start thinking ‘They should win this one and the next one, and Sunday too.’
Hate my mindset, but shouldn’t they?
…by the way, didn’t Morrow pitch 7.2 innings of no-hit ball against us last year? and then eventually shut us out?
Yeah, let’s reverse that.
With their best player out I think it’s ok to believe they can at least win 2 out of the final 3 if not sweep the 3 games. Depends on our starters though and our luck. Without Bautista their lineup they’ve got Lind. Not much scares you.
This display is why I felt hesitant. They’re gonna lose 3-out-of-4, not win ‘em.
Bautista missing the rest of the series means his replacement will be impossible to get out right?
yankees are lucky. they need to take advantage of bautista not in the line-up and win the series. well lets first start with a win tonight. brandon morrow is always tough on us
Freddy is already sweating his ass off lol
Where/when/how did the whole sweaty Freddy thing start? Is it exclusive to RAB? What’s the deal?
Oh hey, Mark Teixeira popped out.
When you throw a hard fastball, you get those type of results from tex
Either that, or monster home runs, I suppose.
I miss the cano HR SWING
Nice job, fellas.
Why cant girardi do this
Jeter
Gardner
Granderson
Cano
Tex
Posada
Swisher
Martin
Nunez
Because he’s stupid.
The only reason he got into Northwestern is that he’s an athlete. Which, I think, is bullshit when schools do that.
Fail.
Inexcusable not to score there. Our tablesetters get on and those other guys have to be able to drive them in. They couldn’t even move the runners up.
Morrow’s a good pitcher.
Jeez, you guys would expect this lineup to batter Sandy Koufax.
That’s a bad analogy because expecting to beat Mrrow is nothing like expecting to beat Koufax.
Morrow isn’t even that great, especially at home.
No one gives credit to the opposing pitcher here. Doug Davis I can understand getting on the Yankees back but not this guy
God I miss A-rod. What about the chances of Jeter scoring if Patterson catches that Granderson foul ball?
Morrow gets credit for getting out of it by using his hard fastball to cause Tex and Swisher to pop up
I’d credit the Swisher out more to that awesome slider of his.
Let me guess, next you’re going to say “why couldn’t Colon do that?”
Well I’ll answer the question for you:
COLON DOES NOT HAVE A 90 MPH WIPEOUT SLIDER!
Hold the phone
hold the phone
it’s David Cone
David Cone
I’m not cheatin’
the man looks
like Buster Keaton
I can see it.
They are stealing signs again
Yay sucking against a sub .500 team.
That’s how you get a runner in from 2nd. Take notes Teixera, Cano, and Swisher.
Hate to get hit by that 79mph fastball
Garnder has played pretty awful defense in Toronto.
Way to pay attention Swish.
Think the bluejays are starting become like the red sox
7 run improvement over last night.
/nothingtobeproudof
Man, Hill really blows. The DFA seems inevitable.
Suck-ass-fuck-fucks
Haha british open Luv the coney
Question:
Do we think that the Shift alone is the reason for Teixiera’s declining average? Or is there something else?
I think it is his inordinate amount of infield popups.
Well it worked against the Mets.
ARod hit the Castillo ball if that’s what you’re talking about.
Oops.
Holy mustache Batman!
That thing reminded me of Damon’s from a few years ago. Dirty.
I’m hoping it reaches Giambi status
He’ll be growing it all season then.
Here comes the bunt.
Not with Posada on second.
Here we go again. Marrow is trying to give us the ballgame. Why don’t you bunt Girardi to get to Nunez. I bet he does.
Heh, bunt Girardi over? I’d like to see that.
But then again, Pinch run him for posada, why not?
Morrow’s gettin’ squeezed.
gardner bunt?
Gotta love Martin’s breakout slides. That’s how it’s done.
breakout, really? I’ve been playing too much atari lately.
Wow great slide by martin
For a gay guy
lololol
Gotta love Martin’s takeout slides. That’s how it’s done.
If he could hit like, .250/.350/.370, I’d be thrilled. He does everything else very well.
Nunez continues to get the job done. Don’t know why you would trade the farm for a 4 week replacement when you’ve got him.
DEFENSE
He will make up for it by air mailing one from third to first.
Nunez trying to redeem himself for the errors he will certainly make later on
Thank God for Nunez
….wait, what?
That slider is fucking nasty
There’s the nasty slider.
Oh look. Jeter failed.
More credit to Morrow for the slider.
More credit to Jeter for being completely useless the past 2 seasons.
More credit to me for being logical.
In this instance
More credit to me for being not illogical.
OOOOHH DOUBLE NEGATIVE! WHAT NOW, GREG? WHAT NOW?!
Thanks for that. Cheered me up
Greg, perk up. You always seem like so depressed. If the Yankees lose and the Red Sox win, you know what you have to say? BIG FUCKING DEAL! And get over it.
Seriously, go buy a puppy or something.
Angel Hernandez just sucks royal ass
WUT
Completely changed the at bat. Angel is a trash umpire.
How in the he’ll did he swing?
Angel Hernandez is the biggest fucking douche. In a game against LAA last year he was being bitchy at AJ and wouldn’t give him any calls.
Bastard.
Are you sure AJ just wasn’t throwing balls?
Yes, Will Nieves Number 1 Fan, I am completely sure! I remember he threw strikes, because that’s why I was so pissed at Herbandez.
Really wish Grandy would go the other way.
He has the power to do so easily.
Thans Angel Hernandez. Asshole.
*Thanks
Angel Hernandez is a great umpire. Otherwise the Brotherhood of Umpires would get rid of him – #union’d #fuckyoufans
it could be worse. normally Angel Hernandez & Joe West are in the same crew. At least Joe isn’t in Toronto this weekend.
That goat-f*cker
Legit question. What’s Garcia’s FB%? I think I just saw like his 3rd of the night.
40.5%
Thanks, guess it’s higher than I expected.
My mistake, I thought you were referring to flyball %
although his fastball % is close to that, 37.2%
Ha!
Reminds me of a story about Roger McDowell (currently Braves pitching coach) coming up in the 80′s with a 82-85 mph 2-seamer.
At his first bullpen in Mets ST, the coach supposedly asked for the FB 4 or 5 times before realizing that WAS the FB.
Freddy need colons fat injections
Would trade Cervelli for Molina.
Blue Jays would hang up the phone.
No question
Let’s leave 2 on again.
Since when does Jose Molina know what a bat is?
Verlander has giving up 3 runs.
CC is coming for that CY.
Make that 4
Freddy throwin the junk tonight he is our knucklballer
Fucking bunt, Teixeira.
Ben Zobrist hit a grand slam. 5-1 Rays.
Huh, Tex popped up again. Weird.
You can pop that one on the left side!
Again hard fastball in, popup
Luckily batting average means nothing in sabermetrics.
ummm, hits and outs mean something
Nope. OBP is the main stat in sabermetrics adn Tex has a good one. .350.
Except a) hits make up 3/4 of OBP and b) .350 isn’t good for a 1B
This.
outs are always the worst possible outcome, Sabremetrics or not
and hits and outs are both prime factors in OBP
I actually like batting average. I don’t care what people here say. I’d like some of our guys to hit .300
not saying high batting avg is bad, just saying by itself, it doesn’t mean much, it leaves out too much information
If they shift on a switchhitter why doesnt he just turn around and bat the other way?
Because by the rules, once you choose a side you are locked in. So if you set up the other way, they will just shift the other way.
Are you sure this is even a real rule?
You cant change the side you’re swinging from during an at bat. Otherwise it would be a mess.
I think you can change once … they didn’t even have a rule until Pat Venditte came along
Rule 6.06
b) a batter is out for an illegal action when… He steps from one batters box to the other while the pitcher is ready to pitch.
You can do it all you want as long as you call time.
Because by the rules, once you choose a side you are locked in.
Are you sure about this? I vaguely (mis?)remember a discussion about Vindette that he couldn’t switch arms once the at-bat started, but the batter could.
Also, there’s this:
http://www.baseball-excellence.....Topic=6420
because the defense is allowed to move around and then the batter is batting from the weaker side for the pitcher.
Also, when’s the last time Tex saw right handed pitching from the right side?
Giambi and Cano man. Horrible.
Remember when Tex hit the ball towards the outfield instead of straight up in the air…it is either strike out or pop up. #20millionayear
But what does this suggest about teixiera? What can you attest this to?
Aside from not being able to hit a change up (why anyone would throw anything else to him) his swing sucks. Too much upper cut.
E: Sergio Mitre so I could get a hit.
Fuck elsbury went deep
I am so sick of the BJs. They are such a pain in the ass which doesn’t make much sense because they suck against everyone else.
Yeah those BJs really seem to rake against us
all kinds of innuendo in that statement
You used BJs, suck, and ass all in one post.
Congratulations
You need to find the right woman
I thinks FTLT is a woman
She needs to find the right woman
And a camera
Well that explains the hatred of BJs
Ohhh rim shot.
Are you shitting me?
Damn reply fails.
Okay. This thread is starting to get innappropriate.Lol
I hate BJs.
Bjs are like pizza even if its a sucky supermarket pizza its still good eats.
What about swallows? Cardinals? Cocks? Hens?
Combo of slider and fastball is deadly
I hate Russell Martin so much.
Youre blaming him for THAT?
Obviously not. That would be silly.
I hate him because of that ugly hair growing above his lip. That thing that people call “mustache.”
They sat “mustache”; I say “ewwwwwww.”. Eh. Tomato, tomahto.
Free mustache rides
sooo you basically like AJ and everyone else is useless. Got it. #sodumb
He is what he is. He sucks.
Overtheheadoftiexeira
WOW, Travis Snider really looks like a pedophile.
I bet Snider likes to live in Virginia and drives a red pickup truck and wears overalls with no shirt underneath and go on dates with women named Becky and Darlene only to find out over breakfast the next morning that their moms are sisters.
Jebus this is embarrassing.
These doubles are getting out of hand.
Outfield not looking great so far this series!
Can’t figure out why we ever let Molina go. He’s a .300 hitter and a great defender. All we have is Cervelli.
he wasnt a .300 hitter when he was with us.
Molina a .300 hitter?
Oh lord.
Molina never came close to hitting like this. Ever. With the Yankees or Angels.
I dont know how to grade Freddy in this start so far.
Granderson needs a new rule: NEVER THROW HOME
Hate the jays friggin anklbitters
this team!!!!! just making Toronto seem like world beaters.
Poor Yanks.
Gardner misses the cutoff, Granderson throws to ???? Is this spring training?
Down 3-1 and only 2 hits. It is important to come out of the gates hot.
You have to occasionally throw the fastball, even if it’s only 86 or 87 mph.
Garcia isn’t changing speeds on the righty hitters, and they are sitting on the breaking ball and hitting it hard repeatedly.
Jose Molina can’t hit a fastball, yet he threw him all curveballs and sliders and hung one to allow a base hit and a run. Pretty much the only pitch that Jose Molina can hit is an offspeed pitch, yet they keep giving it to him despite not having success locating it in the inning.
Freddy’s fastball is pretty much an offspeed pitch
You still have to throw it once in a while to keep the hittrs honest. Garcia threw 18 pitches in the inning, 4 of which were fastballs, and no fastballs with runners on base.
Opposing teams know that he isn’t going to challenge them with runners on base, so they sit offspeed. Against lefties, his splitter is good enough to still get them to swing and miss, but his breaking ball is not sharp tonight and he doesn’t make the adjustment.
Even at 86-87, you can induce lazy fly balls because the hitters are looking for the 79-80.
are you a pitching coach or something? no seriously, because every game when a player gives up a run you tell them (major leaguers) what they should have done and how they can do their jobs better.
I’m goign to point this out. Yankees are 3-5 since the Mets loss and trailing.
utterly small sample size..good job
This is after winning seven in a row. Now I have discussed momentum and I’m not trying to be a troll. I’m just bringing u a fact.
DOOOOOOOMED.
Did I say that? I was just backing up a previous point that I had made concerning momentum.
pointing out a random selection of games as proof of momentum is not pointing out the “facts”. Why your same logic since we finished off the first half by beating the rays, we should be winning the next few games cuz we have “momentum”.
They’ve sucked this month. To be blunt.
If we didn’t have 100 years of baseball history to look at, then this might be vaguely interesting. Fortunately, we have that history, so we can tell that the effect of momentum and streakiness in a team’s wins is insignificant at best.
Yes, Jason Bay’s walk off hit was so scarring for this team that it’s cause us to lose to the Blue Jays two weeks later.
It leads to losing trends. That’s why there are all of these choke jobs. The 95 Angels, the Mets of 08 and 09, the 78 Red Sox.
lulz no
Then wxplain it then.
http://thefastertimes.com/base.....ntum-myth/
The idea of Momentum is pointless in the postseason.
If momentum is as significant as you make it out to be, then there should be at least one choke job per season.
Remember when the Rockies won the 2007 World Series because their momentum carried them against the Red Sox.
Wrong because they had to sit down for few days because they manhandled the D-backs and the Red Sox went 7 games agaisnt the Indians. The momentum was negated by the rest.
Ooh okay, sorry, Greg. Looks like the momentum has turned in this argument.
Then how come the All-Star break didn’t negate the Yankees’ negative momentum?
The Rockies break was more than 3 days.
no it negated our good momentum cuz you know we won 2 games prior into the ASG…then our momentum was gone…duhhh
Remember when the Yankees won the 2004 ALCS because of the momentum from a 3-0 series lead?
And when they lost game 4, it all went downhill. They were unable to stop it
Well if the momentum from winning the first 3 was so strong, they’d win game 4.
David Ortiz broke the momentum.
Twice.
You just can’t predict MOMENTUM.
I wish Drabek started tonight.
So he could no hit the Yankees?
I’m going to shut off the game now.
That was outside jeter has a legit gripe
Nowthat was a syrike
Wouldn’t have done a damn thing anyway.
Old man can’t catch up to that kind of heat.
And herpes.
Can we get Morrow to be our #2 starter?
Rather get Ubaldo
What the fuck are these hitters looking for? Thigh high down the middle? Oh wait, caught looking again. #slumpslumpslump
these next few games just aren’t gonna be fun. this team looks flat.
shitty offense doing work
just wow…
That loss to the Mets really made Freddy pitch like shit today
Blue Jays = Red Sox
Wow. Yanks are going to have a tough time if this is how they are going to play in the second half. These two games have been horrible in all aspects. The Blue Jays are starting to scare me.
P.S: Cashman please take notice of how the Blue Jays believe in their prospects and actually play them.
Yankees prospects are not good enough to play for the Yankees, only to be traded to other teams. #falseprophets
The Blue Jays play their prospects? The same team that has sent Travis Snider up and down a million times in the last two years? The one that dumped Drabek and Cecil back in the minors? Or refused to call up Adam Lind until Cito Gaston forced them to?
easier to play prospects when you have no chance of getting to the playoffs so it does not matter what they do
Well this is just dumb. Talk about overreactions. This is 2 games we’re talking about. 2. Games. Everyone back off the ledge please
Game 2 – Splat!
Thames is a doubles machine. 4 in two days?
God, the Yanks are in suck-mode again.
Looks like Toronto has finally figured out Freddy’s slop.
Not surprising, I am watching Toronto feed and they said that coming into this game – even without Bautista’s .500(!!!) average against Freddy, – this lineup had a .364 batting average against him.
Get rid of freddy and colon
Trade for Ubaldo
Bring back nunez
so tired of mediocrity beating the Yankees.
So tired of mediocrity BEING the Yankees
it is literally feast or famine. No in between with this team.
This is why Wade didnt pitch yesterday.
so they could lose both games???… Wade not pitching yesterday has nothing to do with today
Mitre would be warming right now if Wade pitched yesterday
Relievers can pitch more than one day in a row. Wade is short reliever, so Mitre will almost definitely pitch today anyways. The game was only a two run deficit when Wade would have pitched yesterday. Instead you want to save him for a 5 run deficit???
We need to stay in this game
are you watching the same game I am?
Garcia and Colon have done a great job helping the Yankees keep their heads well above water, but I think we all knew counting on them for a full season was a lot to ask
I’m not saying either should lose their jobs, but Cashman I’m sure is doing his due diligence looking at every SP option
This team is on it’s way to another shitless second half. Hopefully Cashman has the fucking balls to pull the trigger on frontline starter this year.
Why not go home on that
Pleas hit a HR, so I can go out and party.
well boys, have to win the next two so you don’t lose the series.
Really nice of Freddy and Bart to turn back into pumpkins at the same time.
The mets have had garcia cursed forbthat little strole in fron the pen during a game dammed mets
Freddy and Sergio can go fuck themselves
Freddy Garcia pitching like shit cuz of momentum and not throwing enough fastballs…season over. Trade for Ubaldo. Call up every prospect. Retire Jeter. Fire Girardi. Fire Cashman.
So sloppy.
IBB to Encarnacion? WTF???
What was the point of warming Wade up?
Nice yankees suck chant
This is going to be redsox b very soon the will start to throw at us too
I’m praying for Ubaldo, a real LOOGY and a healthy A-rod……..This team is doomed otherwise.
The Yankees are beating themselves in these games far more than Toronto is outplaying them.
Sloppy defense, stupid pitching, and horrible at bats with runners on base. Toronto has had 7 more baserunners than the Yankees in this game, yet only 1 more AB with RISP.
How about they get fired up for once against Toronto instead of taking it over and over? If you are so upset that guys are stealing signs (which it looks like they are possibly still doing), then you throw it behind the first batter and make them move their feet.
The Yankees if they lose tonight will be 15-15 against the AL East, which is pretty weak when you consider that they have something like 50 games left against the East.
Like I said, DOOMED!
At this point, it is like Cashman has been collecting has-beens in hopes of getting a really nice Christmas present, or he is just ensuring he is not the GM next year.
Because Werth, Crawford & Pavano is what was available but he choose not to sign them?
Atta boy think like a Yankee fan, go buy everything. Here is a thought, player development – no wait you were correct, I forget about the Joba rules. #nodevelopmentYanks
You comment was about collecting has-beens.
Your rant is stupid, because;
1) The order where we draft…usually real late because we are winners!
2) His IFA signings have been great…see Cano, Montero, etc.
3) They have moved up to a top 5-6 farm system under his helm.
4) When they haven’t harvest the development (Hughes, Joba, IPK, etc) they have either stuck with them or traded for key players (i.e. Granderson).
5) He has plucked quality where no team has looked much at (Ace, JoVa)
Because his 2011 retread have done extremly well (less the last two nights) and you seem to be pissed about that.
Grow up, kid.
To be fair, Cashman didn’t choose not to sign Pavano. Carl chose to take Minnesota’s offer. New York was very much interested.
Only due to cash making it a year offer…raise the money, add a year and he is here.
BTW, I’m glad he is not here.
I am too.
It’s worked so far. Having two bad games does not negate the fact they have done well uptil now.
Tex strikes out. Shocked I tell ya, SHOCKED.
Admittedly when you watch Brandon Morrow pitch and you watch Freddy Garcia pitch, it’s not that surprising that the Blue Jays are winning.
Sunday ticket free with direct tv not fair i already have dtv
I remember hearing from Michael Kay that the Yankees have only won championships in bunches, they have never had a one and done championship. Well, if thats true then the 2009 championship should signal more.
Listening to Michael Kay’s “facts” may cause tumors
But looking at research he is right.
Not everything can be considered “research”. a Random collection of data is not research. simply saying winning a WS one year is is a sign they will win one again soon doesn’t say much. You have to factor in team talent, competition talent, other factors etc.
I blame Kenny Lofton.
Girardi should seriously consider swapping CC and Hughes this weekend. Gotta at least win 1 of these games. Nice to know we play 4 at Tampa next week too. This will be a long ass week.
Tex is morphing into Steve Balboni
dear god, that means the mustache is next…
Garcia is at 95 pitches and this game is over. Why would you take him out and burn one of your few decent relievers in Wade in this spot? What if you need him for the next 3 days in a row?
Who else is there? Girardi was forced to burn the pen yesterday.
Did you even bother to read the first sentence of my post?
Garcia is 3 someodd years old and was doing nothing.
Again, this game is already over. Leave him in there to eat up innings and to save the bullpen after last night’s game. He could have given you at least one more, and then you just throw Mitre in there for the rest of it and DFA him tomorrow morning.
Did you watch the fourth and fifth inning? What makes you think Garcia could get three outs in 15-20 pitches?
It doesn’t matter. You have to squeeze as many innings out of him as you can after last night’s debacle. I’m not saying to push him to 120 pitches, but 105-110 was certainly reasonable. Every extra out that you can get out of him is one less that the pen has to throw.
One extra out makes negligible difference. That’s ridiculous.
Or, he could have gone out there and thrown a 10 pitch 1-2-3 inning and saved the pen a bit.
You really don’t know, and this game was pretty much already over at that point. Saving a guy like Wade an additional inning could contribute more to a future win than Garcia’s absence to tonight’s game.
The Yankees have scored 7 runs in a game this year.
Brandon Morrow is in there for at least another inning because they haven’t worked him hard enough in the last few innings. This game is pretty much over.
It’s not “giving up,” it’s being realistic. Why waste useful arms in a game in which their performance can’t make much of a difference? If you were going to bring in Wade, it should have been with the bases loaded and nobody out and the score 3-1. Otherwise, it’s too late.
Should’ve thrown in the
Mitretowel.Should have just brought him in to pitch the 7th and 8th and then DFA. Why waste potentially useful arms in a game which is likely already over?
Texiera is morphing into Steve Balboni
stop that
Texiera is becoming Steve Balboni
Tex is not becoming Frank Messer’s boy. Just stop.
Go get ubaldo
Cc
Ubaldo
Burnett
Hughes
Nova
Colon lr
Ulbaldo would get lit up in the AL East. Remember right now he pitches in the NL West. Repeat NL West.
What about Garza?
What about Felix?????
Garza is attainable unlike Felix.
Cash will trade for Felix or Ubaldo.
or both
The Cubs are not going to trade Garza. They are already short on starting pitching, and he is under team control and relatively affordable still.
The Yankees are not getting a front line starter this year, and they shouldn’t try, because the cost is too high. There are too many teams that think they are contenders, and not enough sellers.
The Pirates even are just a game out of first place. Very few teams are looking to dismantle.
If the Red Sox get Garza, I’m blaming you
I wouldn’t rule out the Yanks getting Jimenez.
Ninja Cashman
ninja boots
Which would be a great move.
I think he is top 10 pitcher over the last few years…if can’t argue he’s not top 15.
Very likely that;
a) No one better is available
b) He can get us on the same page as others come postseason.
Our window is limited somewhat with Jeter & Arod declining skills but staying around; which I understand and agree with for the most part.
He shut us down didnt he.
Dan Haren also came from the NL West.
Based on what? Your imagination? Would be nice if you provided some supporting data.
He’s one of the crazy dozen or so that comment here it seems.
I’m heading home, fight the good fight!
Jetrer
If Wade gives up runs, your arguement for yesterday is moot
runs today don’t mean runs yesterday, you can’t possibly argue Logan and Mitre were a better choice than Wade yesterday
Cmon Tex
The whole team looks flat. But, I just can’t justify giving up starts to Garcia when decent young talent ( Nova and Noesi) could be starting. This has nothing to do with the last two games. The Yankees have gotten as much as possible from Colon and Garcia. Colon apprehensive about his hammy then don’t play him. If he believes that it could pop then he should be sitting on the bench or DL.
Its apparent that one of our top prospects will be packing his bags by the end of July as Freddie and Bart continue to throw batting practice.
Now, Wade shows us why he was picked up off the scrape heap.
“Now, Wade shows us why he was picked up off the scrape heap.”
He’s actually been solid. Give credit where it is do.
So Garcia gets hit around in his first start and 12 days, and he should be cut?
Yes..perfectly logical
For gods sake dfa mitre bring up romero
DFA Freddy. If we’re gonna lose might as well play the young guys. I’d rather see Warren, Nova, Noesi or Phelps get a shot.
I want the 2009 Yankees where come backs were possible. Not this “down by 4+ runs, just get through the game shit”
That’s what I’ve been asking for all season.
so glad Cory is in there to keep us in the game.
We’re still in the game?
Gameday says “on field delay” what happened?
Sprinter.
Somebody ran onto the field. YES didn’t show it or discuss it much though other than to acknowledge that it was happening.
LMAO. Ummm maybe the Yankees should score some runs and their pitchers shouldn’t suck? Hahaha
well, AJ is tomorrow, so one of those things will happen.
Also, call up Nova and put Hughes in the bullpen.
I think CC is tomorrow against Romero.
This is the second day in a row this has happened to me.
Where the fuck is AJ? That’s why this team is losing. They need AJ. GET. ME. AJ!!!!!
AJ is the fifth starter
CC’s tomorrow
Speaking of the Rays we could be in 3rd by the end of next week. Oh what fun.
Speaking of the Rays, we could be in 1st by the end of next week. Oh what fun.
True. but looking at the way we’re playing right now…
Pedroia and Ellsbury both with 12 HRs? Damn. Even without Crawford, the RS have the best lineup in baseball. Right now their pitching kind of sucks, but honestly, how can anyone see the Yankees beating out the Sox for a World Series trip? Hopefully, and I sincerely do hope, Boston is on an offensive tear that will soon calm down because 1-5, they are as good as I’ve ever seen. Our 1-5, on the other hand, is, more often than not, pretty shitty. Bring on all the scornful remarks but I dare say I speak the truth.
THe Phillies are much better than they are. And the NL had home field.
Put down the crack pipe.
The Phillies rule with SP, bats are decent, bullpen blows.
Rumors are swirling that the Phillies are going after Heath Bell.
Pitching, yes, but offensively the Sox are actually quite scary. I honestly thought that Pedroia was done after last season but I stand very much corrected. Throw in a healthy, “normal” Crawford and this lineup is unstoppable. Hell, even Salty and Varitek contribute, and WTF is with Reddick? Why can they bring up shitty AAAers that over-perform like crazy but we can’t? Like I’ve been advocating ALL season, this team (the Yankees) need a hot, beefy, youth injection. They NEED a young bat in their lineup to spark this shit up, ESPECIALLY without A-Rod. If EVER there were a time for Montero, it is now. I have no doubt about it.
San Fran showed us last year that good pitching beats good hitting.
FUCK BOSTON!!!!!
Boston is definitely the better team. All the Yankees need to do is make it into the postseason and hope for some playoff magic. Tis all.
While I wish to the almighty Mo that I eat crow, this is not the Yankees’ year. The least that I can do/hope is that it’s NOT Boston’s year. I honestly didn’t foresee Garcia and Colon collapsing so soon (if that’s even what’s happening – although Freddy can’t seem to pitch to powerful offenses), but there’s just so much missing with the Yankees. How about a CONSISTENT bat outside of Cano? That would be MARVELOUS! Or maybe a pitcher behind CC . . . And then there’s Teixera. I could an entire treatise about how much dick he sucks in the 3-hole, but I won’t. This team is NOT built for a championship, plain and simple. Gimme Prince Fielder, Jesus, and an Ace-ish pitcher behind Sabathia and THEN I’ll start thinking otherwise, but until such dreams are fulfilled . . . consider me a non-believer amidst the current state of Yankee affairs.
Food for thought, Freddie Garcia prior to tonight’s game has a better whip than Ubaldo 1.2+ as opposed to 1.3+. NL West to AL East
Russell Martin, since May 1st, is hitting .186/.298/.286 (not including tonight’s game).
At some point, it’s going to be tough to continue to play him no matter how good his defense has been.
With A-Rod out for at least a month, they need offense out of their starters, and Martin is a black hole right now in the lineup. No matter how mediocre Montero may be defensively or how “uninterested” he could be in AAA, they should really give him a chance when he comes back off of the DL. Martin is KILLING THEM offensively, and they can’t afford that right now.
You know this is one of the few things i agree with you on
Can Montero call a game? Catching has become more of a defensive position and offensive liability.
I don’t know, but the Yankees don’t really have pitchers that hold runners anyway. They have allowed the 5th most stolen bases in the American League, and it seems like a lot of them are off of the pitchers.
Martin’s defense is only so valuable when his on base percentage is higher than his slugging percentage over a 2 1/2 month period. At the very least, you could break him in for 2-3 games a week at catcher (Posada at DH) and 2-3 games per week at DH (Martin catches).
I’m sure that everyone loves Russell Martin, but he is killing them right now. With A-Rod out, they need more offense, and Martin can’t provide much of it.
Yep. Yanks have laid down. Pathetic.
the 2009 yankees never lost 2 games to the blue jays…in fact i don’t remember them losing games at all
They went 52-22 in the second half. These Yankees need to go 52 and 20 to match.
That is a ridiculously stupid standard to hold them too.
For Yankees fans, it WS or bust every year. Is that not a ridiculously stupid standard as well?
Yes. Completely unrealistic. Hard to take you seriously, frankly.
Be competitive every year, which they absolutely are, and whatever happens in the playoffs happens.
why do we have to match them? We make the postseason with 90+ wins is fine by me. the Goal is to win a WS, who cares about comparing regular season record with past teams.
The way we’re playing right now, we’re not a lock to make the postseason.
No team is locked to make the post season right now…We’re still 1.5 games from the Rsox and the third best record in baseball…but by all mean keep panicking
Its hard to sit through the losing.
every team loses. Be happy your a fan of a team that usually wins more than loses. By your standard every fan of any other team should have a razor blade to their wrist right now since not many teams have lost less than the yankees.
Greg, buy a puppy.
What’s wrong if they lose? What will happen to you? You’ll have to hear it from ESPN? No, don’t watch ESPN. Watch Keeping Up with the Kardashians or Teen Mom or Wendy Williams.
Well, it gives me some self confidence.
Alcohol is better
Crack measures up too.
TV show suggestions don’t get any worse than those three.
tex is playing like crap. under 240 BA.
martin is down to 214….
there offense is half asleep. spare me the tip the hat routine….
Mariners, Tigers, Royals, White Sox, Blue Jays, Red Sox.
What do those things have in common? They are all teams who the Yankees have lost or split series to that were sub .500 at the time.
It’s really telling that only 2 hitters in tonight’s lineup for the Yankees are batting at least .270 (Cano and Nunez). 5 hitters in Boston’s lineup tonight are over that level.
Not one batter in tonight’s starting lineup is hitting over .300 right now. Toronto has 3, Tampa has 1, and Boston has 3.
It’s hard to get hits with RISP when you don’t get that many hits in general. The offense looks an awful lot like last year’s bully bunch. They either all hit or all struggle at the same time. They are such a streaky club at the plate, and it really reflects on their often inconsistent approach.
Well Fenway has something to do with that. but your point is noted.
“They either all hit or all struggle at the same time.”
You mean the opposing pitcher either has a good game or a bad game?
Wow, that’s earth shattering
No, not even close, but thanks once again for your constructive post.
If this team leaves a bunch of runners on and doesn’t score early, they shut down and don’t score until the 5th or 6th inning. If they get one or two base hits with RISP, the whole lineup jumps on the pile and they score in bunches.
They live and die together. Very rarely do you see 2 or 3 hitters hot with 2 or 3 hitters cold. They are either all hot or all cold. And no, it’s not because of one pitcher when it happens for a week or two at a time.
your welcome,
and the leaving guys on early and then getting shut down is most often due to a good pitcher settling into a groove, like Morrow tonight
Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Have you watched this team play this year?
Brad Penny is a good pitcher? Vin Mazzaro? Rick Porcello? Carlos Villanueva? Ervin Santana? Doug Davis? Carlos Carrasco (clobbered in his last two starts vs NYY and Tor).
And even if the pitcher is good, it doesn’t mean that he is good on that night. Morrow was excellent tonight. Ubaldo Jimenez a few weeks ago? Not really.
I’m not arguing for the sake of arguing, and I’m not saying that every pitcher that shuts down the Yankees have been great. Weak pitchers do sometimes pitch good games (see Freddy Garcia). Good teams do sometimes struggle offensively. I just think its ridiculous that you are complaining so much about the second best offense in the league.
and BTW, the Yankees and Red Sox are tied in wRC+ with RISP and only .002 apart and .wOBA, and the Yankees have scored a higher percentage of their baserunners … guess all those .300 hitters aren’t helping the Sox all that much
Are you serious?
The Red Sox lineup is 5 batters deep, FIVE, and they are nearly equal in production to the “vaunted” “circular” Yankees lineup. I’d say that their .300 hitters are helping them quite a LOT, since 3 of those 5 hitters are batting over .300.
Who says the Yankee lineup is circular????? Jeter,Martin, Posada. That is no more circular than Boston’s lineup. I’m not saying that those hitter don’t help the Sox, obviously they do. You made a point about it making a big difference with team RISP. I have proven that that is not the case.
You are misinterpreting your own numbers though. The Red Sox 6-9 are simply terrible right now, due to injury and JD Drew.
Their top 5 in the order would blow the Yankees away in most of those categories, even though the Yankees on paper should have just as dynamic a middle of the order. That’s the difference that I am citing. The Yankees are deeper, but not as dangerous because they have more holes in their swings.
I’m not going to continue this, because you keep changing your point every time I prove you wrong. I have better things to do with my time.
I have not changed my point once in this thread.
The Yankees have underachieved offensively because of a huge decline in the batting averages of key players. The Red Sox have a significantly more dangerous top of the lineup because they are more consistent as a result of hitting for more average.
You have not proven anything in this thread, because you are misusing your own numbers. If the Red Sox are equal in nearly every offensive category, but have horrible hitters in 4 slots in the batting order, then that means that they are SIGNIFICANTLY better at the top of the order than this club. The Yankees on paper should have the hitters to match them, but they aren’t performing.
‘Not one batter in tonight’s starting lineup is hitting over .300 right now. Toronto has 3, Tampa has 1, and Boston has 3.
It’s hard to get hits with RISP when you don’t get that many hits in general
This was the point I was responding too. I proved that the Red Sox having more .300 hitters has not really given them an advantage overall with RISP. Holes in swings and what part of who’s lineup is doing better has nothing to do with the team’s overall RISP production, which is what I was responding to.
You are really clueless.
You continue to reference a team’s overall numbers, yet you conveniently ignore the fact that the Red Sox numbers are dragged down tremendously by having the worst 6-9 in the entire division, by plenty.
If the Red Sox numbers are virtually identical to the Yankee numbers with almost no contributions from 5-9, that means that their first five hitters are MUCH better than the Yankees. They are more consistent because of their high batting average.
The Red Sox top of the order is far more dangerous than any combination of hitters you could put together from this Yankees lineup. With the game on the line, they are much harder to get out because they have fewer holes in their swings.
The Red Sox ARE a much better team with RISP. The top 5 in their order are murdering pitchers in the clutch at a well above average pace, and their 6-9 are as bad as we expected. The Yankees, on the other hand, are consistently mediocre in those spots outside of Eduardo Nunez and Alex Rodriguez.
Yankees RISP and Red Sox RISP are IDENTICAL in wRC+. Yankees have scored a higher percentage of their baserunners. I’m not arguing that the Red Sox best haven’t been better than the Yankees best. They clearly have been. ALL NINE SPOTS IN THE ORDER DO HAVE TO BAT, so team totals are the only thing that matters. The 6-9 hitters do come up with the game on the line as well. You can’t compare two TEAMS, and completely ignore half of the lineups. And BTW, the Red Sox have better numbers out of the 6 and 9 slots than the Yankees do.
I am not saying they are a better overall lineup. I’m pointing out that because they have hitters who hit for a higher average, they are scoring just as many runs with a much shallower lineup.
That is why I am telling you that the Yankees are UNDERACHIEVING. The Red Sox have a lineup that is 5 deep and are scoring just as many runs as the Yankees.
The Yankees, on paper, should have hitters capable of matching the numbers of many of their top 5, yet instead of hitting .300, they are hitting .270, or instead of .350, they are hitting .240. The lack of base hits makes you a much streakier team. When you score runs, they tend to come in bunches and on home runs, but if you don’t hit them, you struggle to find other ways to get it done.
Last sentence of the first post in this thread:
“They are such a streaky club at the plate, and it really reflects on their often inconsistent approach.”
This has been the argument in the entire thread, and is still my argument now.
Low batting average is indicative of more streaky players. Just like how a .500 team may not always look mediocre. Toronto is a .500 team, but on some nights they look like a playoff caliber team, and on others like a last place team. They can still get it done sometimes, but they don’t get it done as often.
I have never said the Yankee lineup is not underachieving, although only a few are, relative to expected performance, you could say Tex(only in avg. though, and he tends to be better in second half anyways) and maybe Martin(really wasn’t expecting much from him this year anyways.
The hitters in this year’s lineup that I’d argue have underachieved:
Jeter- production still way down, thought he’d bounce back at least a little
Teixeira- Batting average down even more, and was hoping for a bounce back in that department since last year’s was based on his first 2-3 months of horrid performance. He’s become home run or nothing.
A-Rod- Power has been absent as a result of injuries. Given how he started in April with his swing, it’s a huge disappointment.
Cano- Batting average down 20 points from last year, and plate discipline has reverted to pre-2010 levels.
Posada- Horrible start, and not hitting at all from the right side
Swisher- Horrible start, but coming around lately (still, overall numbers are a bit down).
Martin- Triple slash is something like .185/.285/.280 since April. Pretty much a black hole since his one hot streak.
Obviously it depends on your expectations of them, but relative to their careers, these are pretty disappointing seasons.
And from another one of your posts in this thread:
““how much the Yankees have underachieved offensively these last few years”
If having the best offense in baseball over that time period is underachieving, then yes, you are correct sir.”
So yes, you have tried to brush off the underachieving remarks.
Jeter is about where I expected him to be. I think he is in permanent decline.
Tex – agree on average, everything else has been fine though, hoping he’ll pickup the avg second half.
ARod – getting old as well, don’t expect him to be dominant or be able to stay healthy, overall he’s actually been a bit better than I expected.
Swish – Just about back to career avg. wRC+ after horrible start
Cano – I think last year may have been career best for him. He still has second highest wRC+ of career now.
Martin – had low expectations, but he has been awful lately, hopefully can bounce back
Posada – old and adjusting to DH didn’t bode well for him this year
When you see what the Red Sox top of the order has done this year, it really shows you how much the Yankees have underachieved offensively these last few years.
Teixeira, A-Rod, and Cano could be just as dynamic as Gonzalez, Youkilis, and Ortiz, but 2 of those 3 hitters have seen a significant decline in batting average this season which has made them much less dangerous.
“how much the Yankees have underachieved offensively these last few years”
If having the best offense in baseball over that time period is underachieving, then yes, you are correct sir.
Just because they were the best last year doesn’t mean they couldn’t have been better.
Teixeira had a horrible first half, A-Rod had a mediocre year until September, Jeter was hitting .260 into September, Granderson was useless until August, Posada hit .200 for a 3 month stretch in the middle of the season… Do I need to keep going?
Yes, they scored a lot of runs, but do you really think that they couldn’t have done more given how many players had down years? All of those down years at the same time are the difference between the 2010 streaky type offense and a more consistent 2009 type club.
“Just because they were the best last year doesn’t mean they couldn’t have been better.”
Really! You don’t say!
You can say that about any team, any time, any year. No team has every player have a career year in one season.
What are you talking about?
The Yankees had 5 players with career WORST seasons last year, and 2 of those 5 players were under 30 and still in their primes.
With the talent that they had, they could have been a GREAT offensive club, but they were merely GOOD because of having many off seasons at the same time. They definitely underachieved, and I don’t understand how you continue to miss this obvious point.
ummm, not to let facts get in the way or anything, but the only regulars with career worst years last year (overall offense, not just BA, I’m using wOBA, which is much more indicative of offensive value) were ARod and Jeter, both older players in decline
You are seriously trying to lecture me on offensive performance? Where have I said that batting average is the most important measure of production? I’m pointing out that a decline in batting average with little change in the other levels of production is indicative of a decline in CONSISTENCY.
And if we want to look at numbers, how about we try using wRC+, which adjusts for the league average:
A-Rod- 124 in 2010, 144 in 2009 (2010 was worst year since 1997)
Teixeira- 127 in 2010, 142 in 2009 (2010 was worst year since 2006, and only worse season was his first year in the bigs)
Granderson- 113 in 2010, Only worse season since 2006 was his 102 in 2009.
Jeter- 95 in 2010, 135 in 2009, worst year of career other than his 15 games in 1995
4 key cogs in the lineup had pretty down years in 2010, and 2 of them were in the primes of their careers still.
You just said 5 had career worst years and then follow up the rebuttal by pointing out it was only 1. Nice. From 5 having career worst to 4 having down years. Glad you take the time to check your facts before you post. And wRC+ is based on wOBA. I only used wOBA to show exact production, not production relative to the league.
The fifth players (Posada) only didn’t see that kind of decline because of his insane April numbers. From May 1st on, Posada hit .237/.351/.422, which is a pretty down performance by his standards. In March/April he had a 177 wRC+, and was far below that for the rest of the season.
And when I said “career worst” season, I wasn’t obviously being 100% literal in that remark. The declines for many of these players were TREMENDOUS, and represented some of the worst seasons that these players have had in their careers.
Jeter went from one of the best offensive players in the league to below average. Teixeira and A-Rod saw their performance decline by 20 percentage points relative to the league average (aka the difference between Granderson and Jeter last year).
Granderson’s numbers were also significantly bolstered by the last month of the season. Through August 31st, he was hitting .248/.315/.432.
The key was also the lack of consistency. Teixeira was non-existent for the first 2.5 months of last season, which hurt the lineup a lot during that stretch. You can get to the same level of production in many ways, and it would have been more valuable to spread it around.
On the same point, consider that Posada and Granderson were also nonexistent for a few months in the middle of the season.
The streakiness, on top of the diminished overall production, made the lineup a lot weaker than it should have been last season.
Girardi decides to end the game early
Its 6-1, the game is virtually over.
You can run on the Yanks, you can get Tex out with changeups and you can get Cano to swing at almost any pitch that doesn’t hit him. Properly done-Yanks very beatable. Also, once Mitre warms up, you can enjoy your efforts!
I agree it is time for some youth and energy. Montero and Golson will be fine.
Properly done – every team is very beatable.
So nice to have Mitre back. He loves to bring the lulz.
Whatever photos Mitre has of Girardi, they’ve got to be pretty bad. I’m talking coke, hookers, like end of the Hangover photos. It’s the only explanation
Shhh…nobody’s supposed to know that.
Perhaps my new favorite comment?
I hope this is the last we’ve seen of The Experience. I understand he’s the 25th man and all, but man you can’t tell me Buddy Carlyle can’t do better. Or maybe we’d all rather see a 2nd lefty take that spot in Romero. But man, this is brutal
We could trade Martin (and other prospects) to Colorado for Jimenez and open the door for Motero
Because Colorado would totally do that.
Depends on the other prospects.
why would they want Martin??
Good point. Just throwing out suggestions.
If they’re trading Ubaldo they’re gonna want cost controlled guys. And the Yankees top prospect. All starts with Montero
Martin, Jorge Vazquez, Yeicock, Krum, and Igawa.
Make it happen Cash
IPK+Melky!
Colorado already has two good catchers.
Iannetta has been a disappointment and alonzo is a backup
Yeah, Chris Iannetta and his .373 OBP has been a real disappointment.
Iannetta > Martin.
I’ll take one Ianetta.
780 OPS outta the Catchers spot is nice huh?
M.A., Your opinion?
Is this team too “veteran” or too “above” having a closed-door meeting, reaming-out by Girardi?
I know we’ve all said they served little purpose, but strategically timed may have value?
(p.s. I’m not asking trolls opinions)
Am I M.A.?
yessir
I’m no “M.A.,” but why would he be inclined to do that two games into the second half, AND following a pretty good stretch of baseball leading up to the All-Star Break?
I would think teams are allowed to suck lose a couple before the manager turns to lighting a fire under their asses or reaming them out, ugly losses or not.
i know thats the natural inclination. but :
1) they were cruddy going into the break
2) they’re not necessarily ‘slumping,’ right now. it’s more ‘sloppy’ & poor ‘plate approaches
3) if I were Girardi I’d be a little concerned about the “we’ll pick it up when A-Rod gets back mentality
4) completely different team, but Torre did it with a1-3 team in the 4th game of the season inn 98
I thik that if anyone OTHER than CC was starting tomorrow it would happen.
Furttherrmore, iff CC loses tomorrow & the Yanks play crappy, i think it will happen.
I can’t believe the equipment manager keeps screwing up and giving Mitre a baseball glove instead of his personalized white flag.
Right when we needed it….
Those rowdy Canadians are at it again.
another on field delay? another fan on the field?
Let’s see CC put up a patented ace performance tomorrow. Save the ledge-jumpers. Maybe Cashman will get serious about getting a starter after this. Dempster would be the safest bet I’d say
The guys running on the field are smart. They think, hey, if Mitres on the field I belong there too
Hahahahahahaha!
LOL
Only 2 batters over .270 – Now THAT is a Championship caliber lineup. BRAVISIMO!
OBP >>>> BA
And last time I checked, there were three. Granderson, A-Rod and Cano. But a bunch more in the .260′s with high OBP’s, which you conviently left out.
Okay . . . Now compare that to the Red Sox lineup, which you CONVENIENTLY left out, by the way. You also CLEARLY forgot to mention that Meryl Streep is a two time Academy Award winner. Also, you failed to recall the little tidbit about the Magna Carta being written in 1215. HOW DARE YOU! And I can’t believe you neglected that South Sudan is now a COUNTRY!!! OMG!
On the whole, yes, but you are a much streakier club when you hit for a low batting average. Many of the hitters in this lineup have seen their averages drop over nearly 50 points in the last few years, which is why they are relying more and more on the home run to score.
They are still a pretty good offensive club, but not necessarily a dominant one anymore. Hitters such as Teixeira and Jeter have many more holes in their swings now than a few years ago. When pitchers are attacking your lineup more, it also affects your ability to draw walks.
In case you haven’t noticed, offense around the league has crashed.
In 2009 they were 2nd in the AL in batting average. In 2010 they were 7th. This year, they are 6th.
Even in a down league, they have still slipped relative to their peers in terms of getting base hits.
The tremendous declines in batting average of key players such as Teixeira and Jeter has likely been a major factor in the inconsistency of the lineup at times.
I hope Gardner gets his hand stepped on next time he does that.
why? he might be one of the only MLB players that could have gotten to first on that hit
killer AB by gardner
Where’s the Nunez haters now? Yeah, that’s what I thought. And bring up Montero please.
I don’t hate him, I just hate the way he fields his positions
can someone tell me why sabathia did not start on 4 days rest?
Cervelli is just a waste on the bench need to upgrade catcher and martin needs days off.
Okay . . . Now compare that to the Red Sox lineup, which you CONVENIENTLY left out, by the way. You also CLEARLY forgot to mention that Meryl Streep is a two time Academy Award winner. Also, you failed to recall the little tidbit about the Magna Carta being written in 1215. HOW DARE YOU! And I can’t believe you neglected that South Sudan is now a COUNTRY!!! OMG! Blow me?
Reply FAIL!!!
Who gives a fuck
Barbara Streisand, that’s who! Barbara FUCKING Streisand GIVES A FUCK!
I say that shit just clownin’ dog. C’mon, how fucked up is you? You got some issues Stan. I think you need some counseling, to help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some.
Did I quote something without knowing it? I’m not sure. For some reason BS just popped up in my head. It seems you responded with a quote of your own!
just like you i’ve decided to type the first thing that came into my mind.
Tacos
Eminem?
that that time yes. Right now i really want some tacos
ok the colon -garcia thing was nice while it lasted. now its time to go out and get some real pitching.
I am incredibly tired of Tex. I don’t get how he gets this free pass with his complete inability to hit good pitching.
I am the last person in the world to defend A-Rod, but if A-rod had had this kind of of performance in his first few years, he would get absolutely roasted, whereas Tex skates by and people point to his obp and good glove.
Tex is a good player overall, absolutely. He is NOT an elite player and he is NOT a three hitter for a supposedly elite team. His swing is absolutely the same every single time, no matter what the pitch and no matter what the circumstance. He is just not a three hitter.
enough already with him…PLEASE move him down to the five hole and expect Tino-like production. Nothing wrong with Tino-like production, but it is what it is.