ST Game Thread: Beat the Mets

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Pelf gonna Pelf. (AP Photo/Patrick Semansky)

Believe it or not, today is the first time the Yankees and Mets will play each other in a Spring Training game since 1996. I guess that’s what happens when the two clubs play in the same state, but on opposite coasts. Here’s the lineup…

LF Brett Gardner
DH Nick Swisher
1B Eric Chavez
RF Andruw Jones
SS Eduardo Nunez
C Frankie Cervelli
CF Dewayne Wise
2B Bill Hall
3B Doug Bernier

RHP Ivan Nova

Available Pitchers: RHP David Phelps and RHP D.J. Mitchell are both scheduled to pitch, their final chance to make an impression and win that last bullpen spot. RHP George Kontos, RHP Brandon Pinder, RHP Mark Montgomery, LHP Juan Cedeno, and SwP Pat Venditte are also available if needed.

Available Pitchers: C J.R. Murphy, 1B Kyle Roller, 2B Kelvin Castro, SS Ramiro Pena, 3B Zach Wilson, LF Chris Dickerson, CF Abe Almonte, and RF Justin Maxwell will replace the starters.

Today’s game starts at 2:10pm ET and can be seen on YES, SNY, and MLB Network. Enjoy.

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  • mike_h

    Beat the Mets!!!!!!!!!!!

  • pat

    Nova not looking too hot.

    • Mike Axisa

      What else is new.

      • Johnny O

        He’s like the teflon don of pitchers. (16 winz!!!??!?!)

        Unless something changes drastically, Nova is first out when Pettitte returns.

        • RetroRob

          …and by changes drastically, you mean real games?

          • BeanTooth

            Real games are important, yes. But you’d like a pitcher to look at least halfway decent as ST comes to a close.

            • Bo Knows

              They still don’t matter and are not good indicators of how a pitcher will be in season.


              Josh Beckett 2011: 28 hits, 15 ER in 25 and a third innings (insanely good until he got hurt)
              Cliff Lee 2011: 19 hits, 10 ER in 19 innings (really good in reg season)

              James Shields 2010: His ST numbers were excellent; his regular season that year…..not so much (and that’s being kind)

              CC’s entire ST career has not been good, but he’s a an annual top 5 finisher for the CY Young Award

              Zack Greinke 2009: 29 ER, 47!! hits in 28 1/3 innings. His regular season was nothing short of pure unadulterated domination of the competition; which went and earned him a Cy Young Award.

              And that’s just a few I named.

    • The Guns of Navarone

      I hope his elbow is truly okay. His location has been awful all spring.

      • TomH

        That Yankee staff that seemed so formidable a month ago is less so now, especially if these spring performances from Nova carry over into the season. If they do, someone down at AAA may be getting a call-up.

  • mike_h

    Nova does not look like he has his stuff today already NYY 0 – NYM 3 bottom of the 1st 2 out

  • Chrisis

    That looked to me like Jones faked his steps a bit towards home, then threw to third.

  • STONE COLD Austin Romine

    Let’s see … Shitty command of fastball no noticeable bite on breaking pitches. Pre ALL star break Ivan Nova is back!!!!!

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Why pitching depth is a rather good thing: Part 834.

  • Chrisis

    Is Bill Hall sporting the Bryce Harper eye black?

    • Joe R

      Bill Hall has been doing that long before Bryce Harper.

  • pat

    Wow, this is bad.

  • Rey22

    Nova continues his awful spring training. He better get right in a hurry cause his next start matters.

  • RetroRob

    This may be the worst I’ve seen Nova pitch in any game, regular season or ST. Unfortunate that it’s his final apperance of the spring. Hopefully he can put up a good inning or two before being yanked.

    When’s Pineda back? : -)

  • Justin Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (formerly Rainbow Connection)

    Maybe he should hit a batter with the ball if he can’t get them out. The faux tough guy did that to Bautista and everyone here thought he was a hero.

    • vin

      Sorry, but who was that? Don’t recall at all.

  • CountryClub

    Nova just may be a slow starter. Regardless, he’ll have a full month to straighten himself out. After that, he’ll be hearing footsteps.

  • Justin Maxwell’s Silver Hammer (formerly Rainbow Connection)

    Finishing strong: Getting Bay out. Oof.

    • The Guns of Navarone

      There are victories and then there are victories.

  • Guest

    I thinks it pretty clear that Nova had by far the worst spring of all of the pitchers in the “competition.” I have no idea how everyone looked at Pineda as the dude who was soiling the bed with his 3.31 ERA and 16K’s in 16 innings in his pre-Phillies shoulder tendonitis melt down.

    I guess bashing Pineda was always going to get more page views than bashing Nova.

    BTW, weren’t we all convinced he was a fringe back-end starter/solid relief guy until he got hot and got WINZZZZ in spite of some shaky peripherals? Since when did he get the “oh, he’s done this before” pass?

    The whole Pineda fiasco this spring was sad. Hopefully, he’ll get over his tendonitis, get back into the rotation, and the spring fiasco will be forgotten…

    • Guest

      And, yes, I of course hope Nova dominates and proves me wrong. I am a Yankee fan and want them ALL to be hall of famers.

      I guess I’m just scratching my head at a prospect with worse raw stuff, worse MiLB performance, and worse peripherals at the MLB level getting the benefit of the doubt over one of the best young pitching prospects in the game.

      Doesn’t make sense to me…

      • CS Yankee


        (the difference in wins above Pineda from Nova)

      • RetroRob

        Yet none of this happened.

        Pineda was going to make the rotation. And we also now know there was a reason to be concerned about his velocity.

        What am I missing here?

        • Guest

          First, we don’t know that he was going to make the rotation. We all assumed it because it was by far the most likely and rational result, but we don’t KNOW it for a fact.

          Second, regardless of whether he was going to make the rotation, Pineda was at the center of an unnecessary cloud of controversy. People questioned and scrutinized every breath he took, even as he was getting people out and showing a much improved change-up. Nova was wild, all over the place, and nary an eye-brow was raised.

          I agree that Pineda was likely to have ended up with the final rotation spot, but in terms of who should sit on the hot seat, it’s clear that many in the media (and to a certain Girardi and Cashman) decided to give the benefit of the doubt to Nova and chose Pineda…

          • RetroRob

            What I’m questioning is you start your note off by saying “we don’t know that he (Pineda) was going to make the rotation,” and then end your note by saying they had “decided to give the benefit of the doubt to Nova…”

            The assumptions are coming from you, and somehow you’ve turned this into a battle between Pineda and Nova, when all along the back-channel talk was about the competition between Hughes and Garcia for the 5th rotation slot, with it being rigged for Hughes. Garcia is now back in because of Pineda’s injury.

            Projecting ability, the Yankees clearly view Pineda differently than Nova and Hughes. That’s why they traded Montero for him. Yet they’re not rolling out the red carpet for a kid and acknowledge a rotation spot is his when he showed up in camp out of shape, and he hid soreness in his shoulder.

  • Johnny

    Shocking that Nova gets lit again, this time by the Mets. BUT PINEDA IS STILL THE WORST PITCHER ON THE SIDE RIGHT GUYS

  • D-Rob da man

    Nova=2011 Hughes

  • JobaWockeeZ
    • Havok9120

      That’s…..not what he said at all.

      Please put a shirt on. Your irrational hatred is showing.

  • James A

    Is there any way Nova loses his job before Pettitte (who I’m assuming gets back before Pineda) arrives? Basically, is an Adam Warren/DJ Mitchell start coming in April?

    • Guest

      I think that might be pushing it a bit far. Nova over a healthy Pineda and/or Pettite? I say no.

      But Nova v. Warren or Phelps? I say yes unless he really struggles on a consistent basis once the games start to count.

    • RetroRob

      Little chance.

  • STONE COLD Austin Romine


  • RetroRob

    It appears Pettitte will pitch an inning in tomorrow’s final ST game against the Mets.

  • mike_h

    Swisher is locked in!!!!

  • Chrisis

    Swisher went opposite field to both left and right today, nice.

  • Cy Pettitte

    Niese is making Nova look good

    • Robinson Tilapia

      The grass is always greener in the other borough.

  • mike_h

    epic collapse by the mets

  • RetroRob

    Interesting that Phelps only went one inning, but the Yankees had DJ Mitchell throw three innings. Might be reading too much into it, but looks like they might be leaning toward Mitchell, so wanted to see him throw multiple innings.

  • pat

    He lives!!

  • pat

    Damn, Montgomery.

  • JohnnyC

    I thought the guy was dying from Valley Fever. Looks alright to me. Of course, I’m no doctor.