Game 23: Running out of time


(Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

It’s now or never for Phil Hughes, who has to start turning his season around right now if he wants to remain in the rotation. Not next week, not in the second half, not when he’s a little older and has more experience. Right now. If the performance doesn’t change, then the personnel will. Here’s the lineup…

SS Derek Jeter
CF Curtis Granderson
2B Robinson Cano
3B Alex Rodriguez
1B Mark Teixeira
RF Andruw Jones
DH Russell Martin
LF Eduardo Nunez
Chris Stewart

RHP Phil Hughes

Tonight’s game starts a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES. It was drizzly and overcast most of the day in New York, but they won’t have much of a problem getting the game in. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Chris says:

    It’s actually gotten quite nice in NY. Blue skies, bright sun, warm. Great night for baseball.

    • Viasistina says:

      Another bonehead managing night . We DH a .184 hitter so that another .189 hitter can play, by the way we have both of our catchers in the game. we have two offensive (and defensive) cogs out but we have 13 pitchers that we don’t use while letting Logan pitch to a rightie who hits a ball to the outfielder we didn’t bring up. Is anyone else following this?

      • CS Yankee says:

        I’ve been good with Joe until tonight…he gets kicked out of a game an says that he argued because every single game can make the difference in making the playoffs.

        He then doesn’t call up an OFer when he has two out and two ready for a stroller(Jones has a decent break but doesn’t hustle), plays two catchers to get a SSS split. He must have Maddon envy of Cashman is putting shit in his ear. His love for the LOGGY’s is just silly too.

        OK, rant over. Please call up a fielder and give them a chance versus having too meant RPers.

  2. Typical MIT Nerd says:

    Dear God our Father,

    Why is Russell Martin the DH?


    • forensic says:

      Huge platoon split for Matusz.

    • Tom says:

      Because there is a lefty on the mound and lefty bench players are not allowed to hit against lefty starters. I believe that is baseball law (or at least binder law)

      This gives Girardi a complete lack of flexibility…. what if you want to hit for Stewart late in the game? (You surrender the DH and have no emergency catcher) What if you want to hit for Martin late (assuming Matusz doesn’t go the distance)?

      The other thing is if you want to give Martin an off day… he’s a catcher, give him an actual off day. Sure it’s not as taxing as playing in the field, but this isn’t really a day off.

      Is avoiding Chavez or Ibanez getting two AB’s against Matusz really worth it? It’s not like Matusz is going the distance, and if he does the Yankees have bigger problems then Chavez or Ibanez getting 2 or 3 AB’s against a lefty.

      • Jimmy McNulty says:

        Dude Matusz sucks against RHH…Martin’s a legit right handed bat…load up righties against Matusz. Sounds like a legit strategy to me. If they benched Gardner because of this, I’d agree can’t lose his glove, but I don’t see the harm here.

      • Havok9120 says:

        You’re absolutely right on the flexibility thing. Thats my biggest problem with it. But you’re also ignoring that he already gets over 1 day off per week (1 day per turn in the rotation) and that Matz has a huge platoon split.

        I don’t like it, but it isn’t indefensible.

      • FachoinaNYY says:

        Now, let’s say you and I go toe-to-toe on binder law and see who comes out the victor?

  3. forensic says:

    Is there actually anything official where Longoria is out for 6-8 weeks? All I see is one writer guessing himself while the GM says he doesn’t even know if he’ll need to hit the DL.

  4. Robinson Tilapia says:


  5. GardnergoesYardner says:

    Saw over on LoHud that Ibanez is the emergency catcher because he caught in the low minors. Not sure if this is true or poor reporting, but I just vomited a bit in my mouth.

  6. forensic says:

    Reimold out the rest of the series. Hey, every bit helps.

  7. Drew says:


  8. Jimmy McNulty says:

    I really hate Phil Hughes, used to be a favorite prospect of mine, but I should have jumped ship a long time ago. Realistically I hope he’s either just good enough or terrible tonight. Lets face it, he’s not going to be a good major league starter, he’s never developed the third pitch. The change up sucks and the curve wasn’t the same since he tweaked his hamstring. His fastball isn’t good enough to solely rely on it as a starter, and the other pitches just aren’t there. So the sooner the Yankees replace him with someone that can actually pitch in the rotation, the better. If he’s brilliant the Yankees might ignore the rest of his ML career and give him some more rope to hang us all with.

    He was a key piece in a WS winning team out of the pen…great! Can’t call him a bust, true…but he’s not going to be a good starter. Ever.

    The prayer of prayers is that the dire rotation situation forces the Yankees to give Joba another shot at the rotation.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      Just good enough to win*

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I was wondering why all my plants suddenly died and the dog was barking…

        • Jimmy McNulty says:

          You honestly think Phil still deserves to be in the rotation? Or that he might do something he hasn’t done in the last five years?

          *****OBVIOUS DISCLAIMER*******

          I still think the Yankees will be fine, just that they can’t have below replacement level starters in the rotation. I am in NO WAY SAYING THAT THEY ARE DOOMED


          Hughes and Garcia are terrible, this is indisputable. Hughes’ FIP is like 6.9 something. The sooner they replace them the sooner they can get back on the road to 28.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            I lied. I’m actually still at the office. No dog barking. Riling you up there was fun, though.

            • Jimmy McNulty says:

              Hughes still sucks, on the bright side so does Matusz so the kids in the bleachers should have plenty of souvenirs. Always seems like Weiters owns Hughes, so he’ll do some damage. Hopefully A-Rod and Tex belt a few off of Matusz, though.

  9. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Sucks to hear about Gardner, my fantasy team longs for his speed.

  10. Zooboy says:

    I like giving Martin a day at DH so maybe he can concentrate on hitting and maybe get out of his funk.

  11. JU says:

    5 years ago today Phil Hughes threw the No-Hitter that never was in Texas. Let’s turn back the clock tonight, Phil. Back to a time when you actually had an out-pitch and could miss bats.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      And he hasn’t had the curveball since then.

    • 28 this year says:

      shockingly missing bats isn’t the problem. The problem is either he strikes you out or you crush the ball. There is no other outcome and sadly, unless his K/9 rate hits 20, he ain’t doing anything.

      • Jimmy McNulty says:

        Swinging strike percentage for his career is 8.2, I think around ten is average…Mike will have to correct me on this one.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          League average is 8.8% this year.

          • Jimmy McNulty says:

            So an average pitcher gets one more swinging strike per start than he does? Hmmm…that doesn’t seem like that much, but then again that’s just to get to average. I guess the problem is that when people hit him they hit him hard.

        • 28 this year says:

          I am talking about this year. His K/9 is beyond solid. Just everything else isn’t…

          • jjyank says:

            Like I just said below, his K/9 doesn’t tell the whole story. He’s been facing so many batters per inning that the strikeout numbers are not as good as the stat suggests.

      • jjyank says:

        His K/9 is deceiving this year because he’s facing so many batters per inning.

    • bobtaco says:

      Was he wearing 65 then? Didn’t he wear 34 for awhile?

      Maybe he should change his number to change his luck. Couldn’t hurt.

  12. Cy Pettitte says:

    I will try to remain cautiously optimistic but Phil, you aren’t making it easy.

  13. Jimmy McNulty says:

    O/U on HRs allowed tonight: 3. I’m taking the over.

    • jjyank says:

      I’ll take the over too. YES just said that Hughes has given up at least one home run per start, so between that and Matusz vs. the Yankee lineup, I’ll definitely take the over.

  14. Clyde Barrow says:

    I’ve been saying for weeks now that this is Hughes’s last stand so it was nice to see everyone else finally jump on board. If you can’t out pitch Brian Matusz then you shouldn’t be pitching in the AL East. Phil will have to be traded to an NL Club to have a respectable ERA.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      Maybe even an Eastern League club.

    • forensic says:


      Bonnie Parker says:

      May 1, 2012 at 2:40 pm

      I’ve been saying it’s Hughes’s last stand for weeks now so it’s good to see you guys have finally caught on. Tonight is it. If you can’t outduel Brian Matusz then you shouldn’t be pitching in the AL East.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Let us be clear you, and your possible alter ego, have been saying that about every start for weeks now, not that his start on May 1 would be his last stand.

      The distinction is rather important. Its kind of like Greg’s predictions: he makes the same one almost every game. Of COURSE he’ll be right sooner or later.

  15. Bold prediction of the night: Hughes throws 110 pitches over 5 innings, strikes out 4, walks 2, 2 runs allowed.

  16. Stratman9652 says:

    Anyone remember what site pick 6 used to use to show you all the days lineups? The new SB nation version doesn’t provide it.

    Makes picking catchers and some older position players risky as hell when you don’t follow every team.

  17. ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa says:

    Alright I don’t support having Martin DH in a lineup with Stewart and Nunez. We’ve discussed Martin’s hitting woes and I’ve always seen Martin as a primarily defensive signing. Why not DH Jiminy Cricket? Sorry, “Raul Ibanez.” Doing that, he is still available to come in as a defensive sub while keeping Jones’s bat in the game.

    • jjyank says:

      Matusz sucks against RHB. So stack the lineup with RHB. Ibanez sucks against lefties, why would he be playing?

      • ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa says:

        I guess you have a point, but Martin won’t hit any better than Ibanez would…

  18. Does anybody really think unless Phelps throws 7 scoreless innings against KC Andy is replacing anybody but Phelps?

  19. Clyde Barrow says:

    1-2 count. Foul. Foul. Foul. Then ball. ball. ball. And Phil will lose him. This is his problem. He hasn’t gotten any better.

  20. jjyank says:

    Well that’s a good as start as any.

  21. Cy Pettitte says:

    94′s from Phil.

  22. Professor Longnose says:

    Let’s appreciate Nunez on that play. He didn’t anywhere near the ball, but it didn’t dive and let it get past him.

    • sangreal says:

      Yeah, he played it conservative, but that is fine with me. I don’t expect him to be Gardner. That ball is a triple with Ibanez in the field.

  23. Mike HC says:

    Anybody else unreasonably optimistic about the rest of the year based on this one inning like I am?

  24. jjyank says:

    Ohhh a 95. Don’t recall seeing one of those this year.

  25. GardnergoesYardner says:

    95 from Phil. Wow. That’s encouraging.

  26. jjyank says:


  27. Mike HC says:

    If he changed his plan to basically let is fly every inning, can he keep this up for an entire start, or will he inevitably get more tired as the game goes? Inevitable arm injury?

    • Clyde Barrow says:

      He’ll probably tire after 4-5 innings until he works himself up, but he wasn’t lasing that long anyways. I love this new let it fly style. He’s got nothing to lose.

    • Havok9120 says:

      It might be that he’s trying to find that out for himself. He said he wanted to try more fastball. Maybe that’s changed to “air it out and see what happens.”

  28. Mike HC says:

    I think that is the first hard hit ball off Jeter’s bat that I actually remember being caught.

  29. Need Pitching says:


  30. The grandyman absolutely can.

  31. jjyank says:

    Ahhhh Grandyman! Wow he crushed that.

  32. Clyde Barrow says:

    Lefties can’t hit Matusz, except Curtis Granderson of course.

  33. forensic says:


    Put the other lefties in! :-)

  34. Cy Pettitte says:

    Curtis is ridiculous

  35. Robinson Tilapia says:

    BRIAN BUCKING PON……Matusz, actually.

  36. RetroRob says:

    Nice, Grandy. Tied for the league-lead in HRs?

    Perhaps after you’re gone Yankee fans will apperciate you.

  37. Clyde Barrow says:

    Alex gets a hit vs a lefty. Nice piece of hitting.

  38. Countryclub says:

    If nothing else, we know Hughes is healthy after throwing 94/95 that whole inning

  39. Robbie just took ball one with two strikes.

    who is this man and what has he done with the real robinson cano?

  40. Bklyn says:

    This Cano at bat will not end well for Matusz.

  41. In a hypothetical crazy world if Matt Kemp where some how available via trade…what would he cost? I would think it would have to be Banuelos, Nova, Bichette, Williams, and 2 of Phelps/Warren/Mitchell. right?

    • jjyank says:

      Cashman would probably need to throw in his left nut as well.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      I don’t think that even gets you in the door. Nova, Gardner, Mason, Campos? Even that’s light. You’d need to add a Montero.

    • Guest says:

      Your offer would get an immediate hang up — or perhaps a Billy Madisonian “Everyone in this room is dumber for having heard it.”

      Matt Kemp is the most valuable player in baseball by an order of magnitude. The Dodgers are in a huge market and were just purchased by a flashy ownership group which includes Magic Johnson for a crap ton of money. You think that in a star crazy city like LA a flashy ownership group might want to hang on to BY FAR the best player in baseball? Especially since he also happens to be a good looking minority (important in a city as diverse a LA) who counts Rihanna as an ex? The Dodgers are looking for “Showtime” and you don’t get more “Showtime” in MLB than Matt Kemp.

      I think that there is literally no combination of players in the Yankee organization
      that would convince the Dodgers to part ways with Kemp.

  42. JaredTerp says:

    Phil’s velocity was certainly up last inning but his control still wasn’t there. If he’s getting his fastball up, he’s going to get crushed (see: adam jones)

  43. Mike HC says:

    He is down to 92/93 already, ha. I guess letting it fly sometimes will still make the fastball better overall.

  44. Clyde Barrow says:

    Perhaps Chris Stewart should catch Phil as well. They seem to work well together. Stewart’s a good catcher.

  45. …well that lead didn’t last long…

  46. Robinson Tilapia says:


  47. aRX says:

    Well that was familiar.

  48. Mike HC says:

    Well, I guess one good inning of Hughes is what we can expect to see in the near future.

  49. forensic says:

    Heh. ‘Not quite to the target but still able to pass Wieters upstairs. That’s the Phil Hughes of two years ago.’

    Next pitch, Homerun. ‘Straight fastball, thigh high. That’s the Phil Hughes of the entire rest of his career.’

  50. JaredTerp says:

    Been a longtime reader of the site and I’ve finally decided to start contributing. Lets see if Phil can pick up a W!

  51. Mike, I was talking about this earlier, and I’m not sure if you saw it but I would really like your opinion. Do you really believe that Andy is replacing anybody Phelps when he’s ready. Regardless of how well Phelps pitches I don’t think Cash/Girardi will pull the plug on Hughes, whether he turns it around or not.

  52. themgmt says:

    Hughes has sped up his delivery, quick pace in his motion. At least it looks like it.

  53. Pat D says:

    In case anyone cares, it appears that we are starting to completely pull out of Afghanistan.

    • jjyank says:

      I care. Hells yeah to that.

    • Havok9120 says:


      You’re a bit late to the party. But I’ll take it.

      • Pat D says:

        Late to the party how?

        • Havok9120 says:

          We’ve been on this timetable for a couple years now, that’s all. And the land forces have already started building down to a peace footing. Just waiting for more enlistments to expire. I suppose that’s one of the benefits of not having a Federal budget for 3 years.

          Glad to see it.

  54. JMK says:

    Even that curve for a K hung up there. He just has no command of his fastball or tight breaking pitches. I’ve been a huge Phil supporter but I just don’t see how he can be a starter with a lack of fastball command, a subpar curve and a do-nothing change.

    I say all of this solemnly.

  55. Chip says:

    Actually, I thought Phil looked pretty darn good that inning

  56. Greg says:

    I actually think that the home run’s blame is on Stewart. He should have set a higher target for Hughes instead of going low

    • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

      Oh, so we’re going back to the “it’s the catcher’s fault” meme every time a pitcher gives up a homer now, are we?

      How is it Stewart’s fault if Phil laid a total meatball in there?

      • Greg says:

        Singelton said that Davis is a good lowball hitter. Stewart should have gone high to get him.

        Now Hughes did throw him in which was a mistake on Hughes, but Stewart should have known the hitter and not even try low

        • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

          If you miss your spot and throw the pitch where Hughes did, it’s probably going to get hammered, mo matter where the catcher sets up. Even if Stewart set up in the “right” spot, no guarantee that Hughes throws it there.

      • Havok9120 says:

        Every time? No. But the catcher does set the target. And Hughes didn’t miss.

        For all we know, that was part of the sign tho.

  57. Havok9120 says:

    We’ve seen a ton of homers to that little joint between the right side of the bullpen and the stands.

    And yet they’ll all count as homers to right and ESPN will assume at the end of the year that “teh short p0rch” has been the culprit.

  58. Monterowasnotdinero says:

    Montero just hit a single on a line off the centerfield wall.


    • Mike HC says:

      Does anybody here doubt that Montero is going to mash? Plus, we know that he is a second half hitter too.

    • jjyank says:

      Please, can we stop doing this?

      • Fin says:

        I was fine with the updates before Pineda was hurt, now its like pouring salt in a wound.

        • jjyank says:

          I wasn’t before the injury either. It’s annoying. Every single day someone needs to post something about Montero’s stat line. Let it go people.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Pineda changed nothing for me, unfortunately. It was annoying before and after. Especially since they all studiously ignore his current overall line and the 1 or 2 at bats per start where he’s just looked overmatched.

      • Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

        You don’t have to read it. It’s an open thread, homey.

      • Stratman9652 says:


        I rooted for Montero just as much as anyone because he was a YANKEE prospect. My fanhood of Montero does not extend into Mariner’s territory. Simple as that.

  59. Fin says:

    38 pitches through 2 innings. Not looking good for 6innings.

  60. JaredTerp says:

    I’d love for Phil to figure out how to miss low with that fastball. He always seems to miss high and right over the middle

  61. Cy Pettitte says:

    that Andino graphic kills me every time, so random.

  62. JaredTerp says:

    phil got a bit squeezed there

  63. Tom says:

    Throw a damn changeup to a righty!

    I know it’s more effective to a lefty but a changeup down is an effective pitch and gives righties something to look for other than fastball up or curveball

  64. Don'tcha Know? says:

    He’s already at 46 pitches after 2+ innings. WTF.

  65. Greg says:

    DJ Mitchell, we’re ready for your closeup

  66. Bklyn says:

    Show me that rising fastball Hughes.

  67. handtius says:

    lools like he’s back to the knuckle curve.

  68. Need Pitching says:

    he’s thrown a few good curves tonight
    so at least there is that

  69. jjyank says:

    Singleton: We are waiting for the real Phil Hughes to step forward.


  70. If we could some how get a 2nd or 3rd pitch ground ball to second. that would be really nice

    • …or you know…just not that…

    • Tom says:

      You don’t get groundballs when all you throw is 4 seam fastballs and compoud it with working almost exclusively up in the zone and outside.

      There’s a reason why Phil is one of the most extreme flyabll pitchers in all of baseball.

  71. J says:

    Man, you can tell such a huge difference between now and beginning of the game. Those high pitch counts are taking it out of him

  72. Cy Pettitte says:

    Phil….so bad.

  73. Need Pitching says:

    Come back soon Andy

  74. forensic says:

    Heh, same old Hughes. I will never understand why people kept having faith in this guy year after year.

    • handtius says:

      because some of us have been following him for a long time and want him to do well. we remember when he dominated the minors and are hoping it will manifest at some point. i think he needs to go back to the minors and work on his secondary pitches.

  75. aRX says:


  76. Clyde Barrow says:

    Send this piece of garbage to the NL Central. Get him off this team.

  77. JMK says:

    Oh man, as soon as I saw Hardy turn I knew that was going to be clobbered.

  78. Mike HC says:

    So, how bout that first inning, eh

  79. Greg says:

    Can I get an Amen!

    • Pat D says:

      Uh, why would you “Amen!” that? To further disparage your team?

    • Nova, IPK, and Wang all say hi

      • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

        And DRob.

        • Greg says:

          Not a starter

          • Havok9120 says:



            • Greg says:


              Nova’s on his way. If he continues to pitch well this year and next year, then he will break on the list.

              Kennedy no because a lot of people on here believe that his success is due to him being in the NL West.

              Wang is the closest. But his inability to come back from injury did him in

              • jjyank says:

                Wang not coming back from his injury has nothing to do with his initial development.

                Kennedy would still be good in the AL I think, just not as good. They developed him, you can’t just not count it because it hurts your argument.

                • JobaWockeeZ says:

                  On the topic of discounting things we have no idea if the Diamondbacks were the true impact of IPK’s success. Maybe they changed his mechanics or told him to throw something new. Either way you can’t prove who developed the IPK who’s mowing down batters.

                  So no you can’t discount it but for the same damn reasons you can’t say it was the Yankees. So no it has nothing to do with ignoring anything.

                  • Need Pitching says:

                    I’m sure Arizona had at least some impact in his development, probably a lot. No pitcher is a final product fresh out of the minors. At the very least, the Yankees developed a major league ready starter good enough to help land a stud CF.

              • Need Pitching says:

                Nova – already a quality starter
                Kennedy -people think the DEGREE of his success is in part from being in the NL West, not that he wouldn’t/couldn’t be at least a quality starter elsewhere
                Wang – was a very quality starter that the Yankees developed. Him getting injured does not change that.

              • Havok9120 says:

                Inability to….a lot of peo-….3.5 years to be “qual-”

                I’m done with this nonsense.

      • jjyank says:

        This. Hughes and Joba did not become the aces we thought. That’s kinda it right?

        • Greg says:

          Since Andy Petitte, the Yankees have not developed a quality starting pitcher, with the possible exception of Wang.

          Not Kennedy because alot of people here claim the NL West to be the reason for his success

          • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:


          • Havok9120 says:


            “a lot of people claim” is sufficient evidence? And you’re someone who likes to say that people saying things is not sufficient to prove them? And you’ve skipped Nova completely. Again.

            • Pat D says:

              “A lot of people claim” = Fox News’ constant using of the phrase “some might say…”

              Wikipedia doesn’t even accept that phrase.

      • Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

        IPK doesn’t count. He’s in the NL.
        Nova is just lucky – for now.


      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        So to get this straight, IPK is a good pitcher if the subject is on the development of pitchers. But if the topic is reacquiring IPK it’s just the “suckiness” of the NL West.

        • Greg says:

          That’s why I’m not putting him on the list

        • Need Pitching says:

          when has reacquiring IPK ever been a possibility or brought up?
          He very likely wouldn’t be as good in the AL East. You can say that about virtually every NL pitcher. That in no way means he couldn’t be at least quality in the AL East.

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            Okay next week I’m posting an experiment. Look for it and people will go back to saying IPK isn’t a quality pitcher.

            • Need Pitching says:

              even if they did, a few idiots saying that doesn’t take away from IPK being a quality pitcher. It’s also not likely the same people arguing that IPK counts as quality now saying he isn’t quality in another scenario. You can always find a couple of idiots to agree or disagree with any statement.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        And 3 or 4 pitchers in two decades apparently is something to stand up and clap for. Okay congratulations I think we can do the same for each team in the MLB.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          Go ahead and try. You won’t be able to do it because developing pitching isn’t as easy as people seem to think it is.

        • Need Pitching says:

          Who is standing up and clapping?
          Just pointing out that the statement that the Yankees don’t develop quality starting pitching is factually incorrect. They haven’t developed many, and certainly fewer than many/most other teams, but they have developed some. I don’t get why that is so difficult for some people to understand/acknowledge.

    • Havok9120 says:

      No, because a lot of us have disagreed with you whenever you’ve posted that particular dissertation and you’ve ignored our counter-arguments so that you could claim victory in the debate.

    • Chip says:

      You have Ivan Nova who is turning into a stud, Hughes who is clearly going to end up in the bullpen, Joba was hurt, Kennedy got traded for a legit all-star.

      Who else did you expect to turn out so great? You have one major bust there among high level pitching prospects which is a pretty solid rate

    • handtius says:

      no, you can not.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Take your Zoloft, Greg.

  80. Pat D says:

    Pussy feathers.

  81. willx says:

    He misses in the middle of the plate, it’s always the same

  82. Fin says:

    50 pitches and 3 runs in 2.1 innings, I think we may be seeing the end of Hughes starting pitcher career.

  83. Dino Velvet says:

    Hughes = toast

  84. jjyank says:

    PHIL PHUCKING HALLADAY….? Is this thing on?

  85. Electric Nunez aka the shocker says:

    Phil hughes bullpen pitcher !!!!

  86. ShouchBant says:

    Is it just me, or does it seem like a fastball-curveball combination doesn’t work well in the AL East? First Burnett, now Hughes…

    It’s probably too late to teach him a slider.

    • Chip says:

      Well if you have just a fastball-curve combo, it won’t work that well no matter where you’re pitching. Gotta have a third and maybe a fourth pitch

    • jjyank says:

      I really doubt it has anything to do with that. D-Rob has that combo. Doesn’t Beckett also feature FB/CB? I could be wrong, but I don’t think that’s a factor.

      • ShouchBant says:

        Hughes’ success was also in the bullpen, so many that combination fares better there.

        Beckett kills with his change-up along with the FB-CB. Hughes doesn’t seem to be very competent at getting his change-ups over the plate.

    • Preston says:

      He threw a slider when we drafted him, we taught him the curve instead to limit the stress on his elbow…

      • handtius says:

        i would love to see him try and work on that slider that was supposed to be “mlb ready” when he was drafted

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      AJ’s curve is nasty he just sucks at controlling his stuff. Phil Hughes as a starter just sucks at everything.

      • ShouchBant says:

        Used to be nasty, at least. Hughes’ curveball was always a lollipop. I figure there’s not as good deception with his. That, and his fastball just sucks, as you mention.

  87. forensic says:

    If Hughes continues his Garcia impression next half inning and has to be removed, would the crowd have it in them to boo him like they did him, or would they just refuse to do that? I’m moderately curious.

  88. BK2ATL says:

    I think this might be it for Hughes as a Yankees’ starter. And it would be the right decision. Bullpen time. Let’s see what Phelps and Mitchell give us, at least until Andy’s can contribute.

    While I entered the season with high hopes for Hughes, even using a fantasy pick on him with full faith that he’d do well, I just can’t with him anymore. This was a put-up-or-shut-up game for him. He’s done nothing to inspire future confidence.

  89. Don'tcha Know? says:

    Brian Matusz will assume Ace form during this game. Book it.

  90. Mike HC says:

    As good as Jeter has been to start this year, and bad to start last year, I think luck did play a part in both starts. Last year I remember every hard hit ball getting caught, and this year basically everything falling through. Unscientific, I know, but just what I remember.

    • Mike HC says:

      haha … like that hit

    • Need Pitching says:

      I don’t remember many hard hit balls early last year. Even his hits were mostly IF dribblers to third. Almost all weak ground balls.

    • Preston says:

      Jeter’s average to start last year was some bad luck, and his average to start this year is good luck. The difference is the power. He had none last year, almost everything was on the ground, and this year he’s driving the ball to all fields.

  91. I would love to see all these gloom and doom fans root for the Orioles, or even the Cubs. You’d probably all have committed suicide by now.

    • jjyank says:

      Or the Pirates. 19 straight seasons under .500. That’s gotta suck.

    • Pat D says:

      Probably not. People are addicted to their depression.

    • Fin says:

      I dont see any doom and gloom. Its clear Phil is on the verge of being pulled from the rotation. He came into the game with an ERA of well over 7 and now its over 8. People discussing replacing him is by no means doom and gloom.

      • Not that, people proclaiming that Matusz will shut us out, and it’s not just tonight. We get in a hole early and people start crying about how the seasons over and how in gods name are we going to make the playoffs, and blahblahblah

  92. Clyde Barrow says:

    The 3-4-5 hitters have got to do something eventually. Jeter and Grandy are doing everything they can to set the table.

  93. Tom says:

    It’s almost as if the 94-95 in the first inning wasn’t sustainable…

    Phil trying to throw his way through this game (as he almost always done) and for some reason refuses to alter his approach.

    It’s time to let him dial it up to 94-95 and throw an occasional curve one inning at a time, where a caveman approach like that can actually work and be effective.

  94. RetroRob says:

    Cano. Let him go.

    Hey, it ryhmes.

    Not serious.

  95. Clyde Barrow says:

    And of course our 3-4 hitters give us a little dribbler back to the pitcher and a 1st pitch pop up to the 2nd baseman. This is a terrible pitcher and these guys are just hacking away, not working the counts.

  96. forensic says:

    Cano is now 3-21 with RISP. It’s too bad he felt it necessary to repeat 2008 again.

  97. Cy Pettitte says:

    If they’re gonna extend Cano now would be a good time to restart talks, I think this is as bad as it gets.

  98. wilk says:

    phil hughes needs to get out. i’ve had enough of this. his fastball is too straight, his secondary stuff sucks, and his location is terrible. please get this guy off of my television.

  99. Hey everybody, Phil Hughes is terrib…wait are we not saying that right now?

  100. Mariano's Pimp Hand says:

    Did anyone else see the story about Matsui’s massive “adult video” collection?

  101. Tom says:

    Hey look a 12 pitch inning….

    And in an amazing coicidence he threw TWO fastballs the entire inning and decided to throw his offspeed stuff down in the zone.

  102. Athenian says:

    Aside from the two home runs and the lack of offense, I like this Hughes. It is progress.

  103. Greg says:

    I know there were articles done about this but do we think that Yankee Stadium has destroyed Mark Teixera’s hitting?

  104. Don'tcha Know? says:

    I think Andruw needs to talk with his mother again. Maybe Russel could give it a go with Mrs. Jones as well . . .

  105. Athenian says:

    Christ. It’s Brian Matusz not fucking Verlander.

  106. Clyde Barrow says:

    These guys are just going up there hacking. There’s no gameplan. There’s no working the count to get better pitches to hit, there’s just swinging at the 1st pitch so we can go home. They only played a 2:20 game last night, you’d think they’d be fresh.

  107. Mauro says:

    This is a old team.

  108. Sdjohn says:

    Oh Russell, even when you hit a rocket.

  109. RetroRob says:

    Not exactly a big crowd there in Washington for Harper’s home debut.

    He’s going to look good in pinstripes. Huge Yankees fan. That, Boras as his agent, and an A-Rod-busting contract should get him to Broadway.

    • He’s already said one of his dreams is to wear pinstripes. I would personally pick him up from the airport or even drive down to DC for him.

      • jjyank says:

        Considering I’m moving to DC next month, it wouldn’t be a big deal for my to bring him back up here. I’ll take care of it.

        • hahaha nice. works out perfectly. Going down there for work?

          • jjyank says:

            Well I don’t have a job yet, but that’s the plan.

            • It’s already a little late for this, seeing all I’ve said directly to you, you’re not going down there to become some kind of federal agent are you? You’ve mentioned your looking for a government job, and you’re going to DC(home of the CIA, FBI, and NSA)…I smell a secret agent…

              • jjyank says:

                Haha kind of. My end game is to be an Intel Analyst. So basically the guy who reads the secret agent’s reports and turns it into an intel brief. At this point I’ll probably have to settle for being an executive assistant or something first, but I’ll take it.

                • RetroRob says:

                  Hello, Condor.

                • Just um…you never knew me…I am no threat to national security, I don’t advocate the use of illegal things, and I am certainly not an international crime lord. I have no idea where you got that from…

                  • jjyank says:

                    LOL. CIA, NSA, ODNI…not the DEA, no worries. Besides, I’m ineligible for DEA. I’ve been clean for about 20 months now, and their rule is 3 years. So don’t worry.

                    • That’s some cool shit dude. If I ever give up smoking, I would love to do something like that.

                    • jjyank says:

                      It was a tough call, I loved smoking. But they only things I was ever good at academically was writing and political science theory. And I hate domestic politics, so that was easily the most interesting career path.

                    • I was the same way when I was in school, and I cant wait to go back, just curious…do these establishments do regular/random testing or just one time upon being hired?

                    • jjyank says:

                      Regular. It’s part of the security clearance, which needs to be renewed every couple of years. They polygraph you about it too.

                    • forensic says:

                      If it’s a big enough issue to you or you have to ask something like that, then don’t apply. It’s won’t be worth it to you.

                    • I’d never be able to pass a polygraph test. I get twitchy just speaking to police officers whether I’m in any kind of trouble or not. I couldn’t imagine how my brain would react while being strapped to a machine and being interrogated by a couple suits…

                    • jjyank says:

                      @forensic: It is an issue to some people. It’s a lifestyle thing to a lot more people than many realize. How many people would give up booze for a job if they could find another one that didn’t require that?

                      I gave it up, but quitting something you enjoy doing is not for everyone.

                    • forensic says:

                      I understand people like it. That’s exactly why I said that. If it’s important to you, then those jobs aren’t for you.

                    • jjyank says:

                      You’re right. It’s a matter of priorities, lifestyle vs. a certain career path. I understand both choices.

                  • @Forensic, I’d definitely consider quitting if this was some kind of dream job of mine, but for now it’s really not so I’m not concerned.

                • Havok9120 says:

                  Sooooooo….you’re Jack Ryan.


      • RetroRob says:

        He will have to live up to his press clippings, but the talent is real. He’s got a huge payday coming. I’m sure the Nats will try to lock him up past free agency, but I don’t see Boras going for it anymore than he did with A-Rod. Boras knows that a great young player hitting free agency in his mid-20s will get an ungodly amount of money. Someone has to break A-Rod’s contract, and Harper could be the guy.

  110. Don'tcha Know? says:

    Is it official yet? Can I say, with reasonable certainty, that Russel Martin sucks? Love the guy, hate his bat.

  111. Greg says:

    Hughes is thinking “Great, the one time I pitch decently, we get no runs”

    • Tom says:

      3 runs in 4 innings is not decent.

      • Greg says:

        Compared to what he has done, its decent

        • Tom says:

          Unless “decent” means an ERA over 7.00, that makes no sense.

          Better than awful does not mean decent.

          • Need Pitching says:

            4 hits, 6 K’s, 1BB in 5 innings is very decent

            unfortunately 2 HR is not

            • Tom says:

              When the comment was written it was 4.1 IP

              And I still think an ERA of 5.40 (3 ER, 5 IP) stretches the concept of “very decent”

              • Need Pitching says:

                I’m not disagreeing. The results haven’t been decent, and the 2 HR can’t be ignored. HR’s have been a big part of Hughes problem. I’m just saying, overall he has looked somewhat decent (outside of the HR). Certainly the best he has looked this year (not that that is a high bar to clear)

                • Tom says:

                  Other than the ending how did you like the play Mrs. Lincoln?

                  Why does it seem like every analysis of Hughes has an “except for the…” qualifier in it. Some of the outs were deep flies, lineouts that could also have been extra base hits if hit slightly differently.

                  Frankly the better than narrative also needs to stop. Better than absolute garbage is not a postivie indicator nor is it a trendline. This looked like about the sbsolute best Hughes could have pitched… and that is scary.

                  • Need Pitching says:

                    ” Some of the outs were deep flies, lineouts that could also have been extra base hits if hit slightly differently.”

                    even more of those in Kuroda’s start yesterday, yet you jumped on me for suggesting his leash may have been a bit too long yesterday

                    I think Hughes should be in the bullpen. I was just objectively saying he looked better. Is there something wrong with being objective when analyzing his performance. He didn’t look great. I don’t think he should stay in the rotation when Andy comes back. He did look better. That’s not a narrative. It’s a truthful evaluation of his start.

                    • Tom says:

                      Objective isn’t trying to look for reasons to discount the bad results and not do the same on the good results. You can’t say if only he didn’t give up 2HRs as if those were the only 2 hard hit balls all night.

                      The better than is a narrative because better than 2.2IP or 3.1 IP is MEANINGLESS…. if he threw 4 innings tonight and gave up 4 runs.. hey it’s better than many of his past starts, right? When the bar is better than a run an inning it’s a useless indicator and that is why I say the “he’s trneding better” or “at east he was better” narratives need to stop.

                      He did some things better, but look at some of the pitches that weren’t even swung at as well. Getting a called strike on a changeup floating high in the zone only seems to get noticed when it is crushed. Hughes was better with his curve (locating it down more frequently) but the command overall was still poor and he got away with bad location that a team like Texas or Boston would absolutely murder.

                      And when your groundball rate is ~30%, you are going to give up HR’s at a high rate… major league average is ~1 per 10 FB’s, which is why you can’t just say if only those HR’s didn’t occur. Yes Hughes HR rate may regress some (it’s ~17%), but his xFIP (which corrects for this) is 4.71; put that pitcher in Yankee stadium and it’s an ERA over 5.

                    • Need Pitching says:

                      “The results haven’t been decent, and the 2 HR can’t be ignored.”

                      Which part of that is me saying ” if only those HR’s didn’t occur.”

                      Better is an objective term, not a narrative, and not necessarily a good thing. Looking better for Hughes obviously is different than say Nova looking better. He did some things better today. Many things were still shitty and there is plenty of reason to still think he should not be in the rotation. I didn’t say better was meaningful or not. I just said he was better, which he was, if only slightly. I still think not nearly good enough to be an effective SP, so the better is “meaningless” imo. I never said it was at all meaningful.

                    • Tom says:

                      “I’m just saying, overall he has looked somewhat decent (outside of the HR).”

                      When you say he has looked decent OUTSIDE of the HR, that is discounting them. You can’t judge decent on everything but the two HR’s.

                      Better is a narrative because it is meaningless… it sounds nice but it has no value. If better is not meaningful, than why did you bother to mention it? (Did you mention it because you though it was meaningless?)

  112. ShouchBant says:

    I see Nick’s taking a page from Ibanez’s book.

  113. ShouchBant says:

    That ball was ready to mock Nunez.

  114. Don'tcha Know? says:

    Where’s Russel Branyan by the way? Is he still hurt?

  115. Clyde Barrow says:

    3 runs through 5 innings. That’s better than anything Phil’s done in a while. If the offense had done what it usually does vs Matusz it would have looked a lot better.

    • ShouchBant says:

      I’m just waiting to see a game where Hughes doesn’t actually allow a home run. The only positive this game is that he hasn’t allowed any more.

    • Fin says:

      He hasnt been bad tonight. If he gets through the next inning its about what you expect from a number 5 starter against the O’s.

  116. radnom says:

    Hand sanitizer keychain day?

    Is it a tiny bottle of hand sanitizer attached to a keychain? Thats a thing?

  117. VinceApple says:

    Ok, first Phil has not been horrible. Two bad pitches, let us not run him up the flag pole. Second, maybe we need to bring Guidry back in to work with Phil, he pitched much better with him as Pitching coach. I have to say I do not think Larry R has done a great job with this staff and that maybe the Yankees need to address that ASAP. George would have sent his rear packing by now if he was still alive, along with Phil back to Scranton and Garcia on a slow boat to pitch in Japan.

    • forensic says:

      I hate that two bad pitches thing. What about the 4 balls that have been hit to the track? What about the other balls that were hit hard? What the the walk?

  118. Sdjohn says:

    Someone help jeter out for the love of god!!!!

  119. VinceApple says:

    We need another position player…13 pitchers is a little much when we have one guy who can actually play the outfield.

  120. Clyde Barrow says:

    Do we have to start batting Jeter and Granderson 3rd and 4th? I just don’t know what more these two men can do to get on base and all A-Rod, Cano and Teixera do is hit dribblers or pop ups on the 1st pitch.

  121. God damn. A little bit of offense against this guy would be nice…

    • Don'tcha Know? says:

      Wasn’t it you who just recently complained of the “ledge jumpers” who foresaw Matusz putting together an ace-like performance against this C- lineup?

      • Not anywhere near the edge, just mildly upset that a group of people who are paid millions of dollars to do something haven’t been able to do it against a guy that they usually succeed against.

  122. Athenian says:

    This is dreadful.

  123. ShouchBant says:

    Longest start of the year for Hughes. I hope this is not the best he could do.

  124. flamingo says:

    Just got home and checked the score – where are all the runs?!

  125. Clyde Barrow says:

    Typically you’d want to hear, “And in the next half inning the heart of the order comes up to bat against Brian Matusz” but tonight ain’t one of those nights. They did no favors for Phil tonight. The narrative would have been a lot different if it was a 5-3 lead and a W instead of a 3-1 deficit and a L. It shouldn’t be but it is.

    • Greg says:

      Captain Obvious, everybody!

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        You two fight it out. I’ll sit back, have a Sazerac, and enjoy. Greg, watch for Hester’s multiple personalities. Hester, Greg may not have taken his antidepressants today. GO!

    • Fin says:

      Eh, Phil pitched pretty well, win or loose. Not sure it matters much in the meme that he wont get the win. Its something for Phil to build on and probably keep his spot in the rotation for a bit longer. The meme is going to be the Yankees shut down by shit stick Matuz and only scoring 3 runs in 2 games against the O’s.

  126. Need Pitching says:

    I think Hughes just guaranteed himself a start on Sunday
    I wish I could say I was enthused about that

    • ShouchBant says:

      Probably start-by-start. Two homeruns given up today, not something he wants to continue doing, though.

  127. ShouchBant says:

    Would have been nice to see Hughes finish the inning, but it looked like a bad omen when he hit Wieters. Let’s hope the offense picks up.

  128. Tom says:

    Good pull by Girardi here.

    I think he probably just did it because Davis had already homered but I think you have to pull Phil there regardless of the hitter.

  129. Mauro says:

    and Now every body Will be happy FOR 5/2 innings . This guy sucks

    • Chip says:

      In relation to our starting pitching thus far this season, it was a decent performance

      • Sdjohn says:

        Ya, but that’s kinda like sayin the last 3 months of our presidents term has been decent in comparison to the previous couple years. Still not great.

  130. Andy E says:

    for some reason i really want a pepsi max right now

  131. RkyMtnYank says:

    At least Phil got a nice hand from all 250 people at the stadium. I’m sure it was still a sell out though.

  132. DM says:

    A little better – but a shame they still have to manage him and his psyche this way. God forbid they let him try to close out the sixth and crack 105 pitches.

    • Chip says:

      To be fair, they have a rested bullpen, Davis took him deep earlier, Logan has been solid this season and when is the last time Hughes even cracked 80 pitches?

      • DM says:

        I understand that POV — but the thrust lately has been about getting more out of their starting pitching as well.

    • Andy E says:

      i dont think they are trying to manage his ‘psyche,’ i think they are trying to win a ballgame

      • RkyMtnYank says:

        Then Phelps should have started :)

      • DM says:

        They’re not mutually exclusive. Getting Phil outta there before something goes wrong leaves him with some more confidence after his past outings. But Phil isn’t a rookie making the 5th start of his career. Also, you don’t always bring in your A relievers when you’re behind.

    • Fin says:

      Yea, I would have liked to see Girardi leave him in to finish the inning, but what can you do? You really cant blame him for pulling him.

      • DM says:

        No, I don’t blame Girardi. Phil himself set up this lack of faith. He’s still treated like a rookie. But you’re gonna have to get out Chris Davis in the 6th inning in this league — even if he homered off you earlier. Make an adjustment –i.e., make some pitches and give your team some length.

  133. Clyde Barrow says:

    Has Boone Logan gotten a lefty out this year

  134. Stratman9652 says:

    Who knew Phil Hughes would take over AJ’s role where 5.2 of 3 run ball with a couple homers is a “step forward”?

  135. That run turns Hughes’ line score from passable to blah…

  136. Greg says:

    At least that other team is losing. So the media wont have a complete field day

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

      Why are you so paranoid about the media. It’s May 1st, nobody gives a shit about the days where the Sox win and the Yankees lose.

  137. Michaels' Pineda says:

    Remember the days when Yankee Stadium was sold out for every game? Remember when fans were into every single pitch? Damn I miss those days…

  138. Fin says:

    And there goes Hughes pitching line. 5 2/3 with 3 runs looks alot better than 4.

  139. OMG! Bagels! says:

    Phil Hughes plus Boone Logan = drink heavily and try to black out.

  140. Need Pitching says:


  141. jjyank says:

    Nunez….damn it.

  142. RkyMtnYank says:

    Nunez with the Ibanez.

  143. aRX says:


  144. Athenian says:

    That’ll just a about do it. 2 game winning streak over.

  145. Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

    Jesus Christ.

  146. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    I guess Nunez could only be passable for so long out there.

  147. Mike Nitabach says:

    Fucking hell.

  148. Electric Nunez aka the shocker says:

    The electic one

  149. Greg says:

    Problem for Nick Johnson, he still doesnt have a hit

  150. OMG! Bagels! says:

    Brett Gardner won’t you please come home.

  151. Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

    LOL! Maybe he should try selling peanuts.

  152. Chip says:

    Well, we all had to know that was coming

  153. Clyde Barrow says:

    Ok, it’s time to bring up an outfielder. This is just ridiculous. DO SOMETHING CASHMAN!

  154. nedro says:

    There’s that E7 we’ve all been waiting for…

    • Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

      E7? That’s a pretty funky chord, yo! LOL!
      Maybe an E7b9? Yeah, bro!

  155. 718 says:


  156. Athenian says:

    Shameful. Just shameful!

  157. OMG! Bagels! says:

    Brett Gardner, robbed of a Golden Glove.
    Yankee fans, robbed of a Brett Gardner.

  158. Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

    Looks like the Mets out there.

  159. Stratman9652 says:

    It was bound to happen eventually.

  160. Fin says:

    Getting blown out in a game started by Matuz is tough to take.

  161. Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

    Today is the first day I realized that Gardner was on the DL. I just figured they were playing different people as a rotation.

  162. Karl Krawfid says:

    You have Wise, Dickerson, and others down below.

    Can anyone tell me why they didn’t bring Bill Hall up north and leave Nunez in the minors?

    • nedro says:

      Hall’s gone. Opted out. Not a roadie type.

      • nedro says:

        Sorry. just noticed “didn’t,” as in, to start the season. In that case, I don’t know. Perhaps willing him to become the SS of the future will make it so?

        • Need Pitching says:

          and they needed somebody who could play SS on the roster
          Hall has played 36 innings at SS since 2006

          • Karl Krawfid says:

            Why is Nunez here then? He can’t play SS. Pena would have been a better option.

            He can’t play at all.

            • Need Pitching says:

              Pena can’t hit
              At all

              They chose offense potential and hope for defensive improvement over all glove, no-hit.
              All back up players suck in some way. That’s why they are back up players.

    • Need Pitching says:

      Bill Hall sucks
      and Dickerson is on the DL

      • JohnnyC says:

        This is true but doesn’t address the issue. Hell, Colin Curtis can at least catch a fly ball. Just move one of the gimps to the 60 day DL.

  163. forensic says:

    Actually, Michael. In order for Logan’s ERA to go down, he would’ve needed to actually get AN out.

  164. Clyde Barrow says:

    You play with fire you’re gonna get burned. Gardner won’t be back as quickly as expected. You can’t rush Swish back, can’t rush a hamstring. BRING SOMEBODY UP WHO CAN PLAY THE FIELD! It isn’t that hard. We’ve got pitchers just wasting away in the bullpen. There’s too many as it is.

  165. WillTheThrill says:

    Wow. I am pretty sure our major league worst rotation ERA will be inflated like a balloon this whole year. Pitching has been horrendous. It’s unacceptable.

  166. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    Nunez’s 3 errors have resulted in 8 unearned runs.

  167. Sdjohn says:

    What’s our reason for having 13 pitchers again, in particular one named Freddy Garcia clogging a spot that would be much better served as a position player playing this thing called defense? Hint to girardi/cashman, when 2/3rds of your starting outfield is out with injury, you call a player up that has more experience than 5 games played in the outfield in the majors. WTF are these guys thinkin?

  168. Stratman9652 says:

    Did that just happen?

  169. aRX says:

    O..K…well, at least it worked.

  170. Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:


  171. Chip says:

    Hahaha, I’ve often heard that A-Rod is the best bunter on the team

  172. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Sit the fuck down, Teixeira.

  173. forensic says:

    I can’t believe he bunted to break up the no-hitte…

    Oh wait, nevermind, just felt like that.

  174. Widget says:

    cano and tex are killing the offense every game it seems. ouch.

  175. I know it’s kind of funny…but at the same time your clean up hitter shouldn’t have to bunt for a base hit…

  176. Don'tcha Know? says:

    I know this isn’t rock bottom, but damn, it certainly feels like it. Yucky poo.

  177. Karl Krawfid says:

    Yankees make me sick with this shit.

    2 everyday outfielders are hurt. They call up a pitcher and don’t DL one.

  178. WillTheThrill says:

    Good Cano where art thou?

    All kidding aside has anyone ever wondered how much greater Cano would be if he developed better plate discipline and stopped swinging at balls over his head/outside the zone?

  179. Ethan says:

    Man, this team just looks straight up awful right now.

    • WillTheThrill says:

      The reason I haven’t gone to a Yankee game since 09. I’m not spending my hard earned money on $300 seats for a game in which a non-CC starter will pitch 4 innings give up 7 runs and Mark Teixeira will pop up to second base twice with the bases loaded and two outs.

  180. Fun with Quarks says:

    When you’re chewing on life’s gristle
    Don’t grumble, give a whistle

  181. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    If this isn’t a time for Mitchell I don’t know what is.

  182. Dan in Atlanta says:

    Nnuez has provided negative value since his arrival. If anyone stuipdly will give the Yanks anything for him, send him packing. And no that doesn’t mean you have to sign a 0 WAR guy for 5 million bucks.

  183. bill says:

    gardner gets that

  184. ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa says:

    Just saw a feature on Beltran’s strikeout in 06 on E60. Really made me want the guy to win a championship.

  185. Sdjohn says:

    We are an offensive juggernaut!!! We average 5-6 runs a game!! We will be fine. It’s only May. This is all the “everything’s gonna be ok” fans thoughts

    We suck. Brian matusz is shutting us down. We have scored 2 runs last night and one tonight. We will not make the playoffs. This is the ledge jumper fans thoughts.

    The truth, somewhere in between!

  186. WillTheThrill says:

    Eduardo Nunez for Johnny Venters. Atlanta is supposedly crazy to aquire Nunez and we need a lefty who can actually get lefties out. You guys think the Braves would bite?

  187. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Bowling-shoe ugly, but at least Ma and Pa Matusz can actually acknowledge what their son does for a living again.

  188. Don'tcha Know? says:

    Damn, this is the ugliest lineup I can remember seeing in quite in some time. I would’ve thought, a few years back at least, that Jeter, Granderson, A-Rod, Cano, and Teixera would’ve been PLENTY to carry an offense. Not so much apparently . . .

    • WillTheThrill says:

      It’s so sad to see Arod and Tex going downhill offensively. They used to be so great. This is why I think we all wanted to keep Montero. Our old/declining lineup is getting exploited more and more.

  189. RetroRob says:

    Let’s go.

  190. handtius says:

    can’t believe how many ledge jumpers are out already on the 1st of may. bet they were saying the same thing on the 1st of may in 09.

  191. Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

    37,790 at the stadium. I know it’s the Orioles at the beginning of May, but it’s still sad.

    • WillTheThrill says:

      Tough economy. I certainly can’t afford seats at YS3. And no one wants the bleacher/upper level seats, with that horrible view you might as well watch the game on YES from the comfort of your home.

  192. Dan in Atlanta says:

    Not that it makes a difference overall tonight or will stop this team from the playoffs, but I loathe Nunez and have no clue why the Yankees think he has any value given the atrocious defense he plays.

  193. forensic says:

    Hey, now there’s no DH with one guy left on the bench. It’s late in a relative blowout, but still…

  194. Instead of asking if somebody made the catch look at the umpires Sterling.

  195. Tony says:

    Great job umpires

  196. Stratman9652 says:

    Anyone else starting to think that the lefty righty match-ups are getting a little out of hand throughout baseball? Kind of ridiculous when you give up the DH for match-up sake.

    • Need Pitching says:

      give up the DH because Stewart sucks at hitting and Chavez has been hot
      it goes a little beyond just straight matchup

      • Stratman9652 says:

        Wouldn’t be in the situation in the first place if Ibanez or Chavez had started at DH.

        Is DHing a struggling Russ that much of an advantage over Ibanez or Chavez simply because he is a righty? Especially you are saying Stewart is a better option that Ibanez or Chavez because whatever platoon advantage you gain from DHing Martin over the other two is negated by placing Stewart into the lineup.

        Chavez/Ibanez DH and Russ C seems better to me than Russ DH and Stewart catching.

  197. Chad Gaudin the Friendly Ghost says:

    Hey Joe, think you might come out of the dugout on that one? What the hell?

    • handtius says:

      yeah, cause that was so obviously a trap…you would never have questioned it if you didn’t see a slow motion replay…hence, there should be more, replay.

  198. Alex…lets make this interesting please.

  199. Nathan says:

    So, is it pretty safe to say when Andy comes back he’s taking Hughes’ spot?

  200. 28 this year says:

    Wasn’t replay expanded to trapped balls or was that just discussed?

    • Tom says:

      MLB is still considering it (and fair/foul).

      • What is there to consider…from what I understand the point of officiating is to get the call right, and make sure that the game is played within the rules. If there is a way to make sure that the calls are correct, why not? Btw, all in favor of robotic/computerized strikezones.

  201. Tony says:

    Now imagine if the umps made the right call on Chaves’ hit. Arod would be the tying run. (If everything happened the same)

    • Need Pitching says:

      or Martin may have been forced out at second on the play and there would have been no change

  202. Need Pitching says:

    fuck Alex…should have bunted again

  203. guess not…I’m a sad panda.

  204. V says:


  205. JohnnyC says:

    The legend of ARod continues.

  206. Clyde Barrow says:

    And here come our 3-4-5 hitters again to make outs with men on base. Maybe Alex can hit another blooper over 1st base.

  207. Karl Krawfid says:

    Another all upper body long swing from A-Rod.

    Yankees have the worst 3-4-5 in the league.

    • Will The Thrill says:

      Word. As sad as it sounds I’d take the Orioles 3-4-5 over our guys at this point. I wish Arod would have an epiphany and retire & I wish 2009 Tex would travel in time and bitch slap 2012 Tex.

    • TomH says:

      “Another all upper body long swing from A-Rod.”

      Knee problem? Hip problem?

  208. forensic says:

    As usual, the dumbass booing only for A-Rod. None for Cano, who’s been terrible? How about Tex, who’s been abysmal?

  209. Karl Krawfid says:

    Nunez is just jogging out there.

    Fucking embarrassing.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Gil Hodges would have walked him back to the dugout for that. Of course, we currently don’t have a defensive replacement for Nunez. Gil Hodges, meet Brian Cashman.

  210. Will The Thrill says:

    If only we could hit like we did when we came back in Boston.

  211. Nathan says:

    Since YES mentioned Pineda, given the Buhner trade, the Cliff Lee debacle and the now Pineda deal, have the Yankees had any successful trades with the M’s?

  212. Sterling, I understand you like Nick Johnson as a person but you shouldn’t get that excited for an opposing player does something to hurt the team your broadcasting for.

    • Mike Stanley says:

      The premise behind your entire argument is fundamentally stupid.

      • Please elaborate. I’m confused.

        • Mike Stanley says:

          It was an exciting play in the game, especially because a player broke a long, embarrassing hitless streak.

          His job is to announce the baseball game. Not to play to your personal emotions.

          • Or play to his own personal emotions, I don’t know if you heard the call, but if somebody had just turned on the game and had no idea who nick johnson played for they’d think he just gotten a big hit for the Yankees.

            • Mike Stanley says:

              So? Who cares? Seriously, it’s such a bitter, dumb argument.


              Grow up.

              • I’m sorry that I listen to the home broadcast to hear positive things about my team…I didn’t realize that was such a bad thing.

                I’m just saying there’s no reason for him to get so excited about Baltimore’s back up DH/1B getting a hit.

                • Mike Stanley says:

                  I’ll chalk this up to your understandable frustration at tonight’s game.

                  • Yeah, it’s more that than anything…it’s just they spent the entire series talking about how great of a hitter he is and blahblahblah…it got frustrating, compounded with our terrible perfomance I was upset.

                • Robinson Tilapia says:

                  It’s no big deal, dude. At least it was someone Sterling spent some time covering in pinstripes. I was even happy for the guy. You hate to see a career go down the toilet like that for a guy who, once upon a time, could actually hit.

            • JohnnyC says:

              Hawk Harrelson must be your favorite announcer.

  213. Fin says:

    Ugly game. After Jeter, Granderson and Arod, the lineup is 0-17. Not winning many like that. Swisher and Gardner cant get back soon enough. Good thing we have 139 more to go.

  214. Jim says:

    I can’t believe people are defending Girardi for yanking Hughes with 2 outs in the 6th. Let the kid finish the inning and maybe the team can even the score for him. Bad yank by Girardi.

  215. Don'tcha Know? says:

    Haha. This thread is hysterical. Today . . . the Yankees suck. I think we can all agree on that. It definitely does suck losing to the Orioles, but, on a high note, can it REALLY get much worse than this miserable twat fest these buffoons masquerading as Major Leaguers are putting on display tonight? When Nick Johnson is hurting you offensively, I think the answer HAS TO be “No”.

  216. Mike Stanley says:

    Jesus, you guys are whining like it’s game 7 of the World Series.

    Wow, you mean they won’t go 18-0 against the Orioles? FIRE EVERYONE!

  217. Zooboy says:

    Granderson. The anti-NunEEEEEz.

  218. Will The Thrill says:

    Joe seriously needs to shuffle this lineup around. Make Granderson-Jeter our 3-4 until Cano/Tex/Arod show signs of life in their bats.

    • Need Pitching says:

      so they get fewer AB’s and there is still nobody on base for them to drive in

    • what would the line up look like with the current roster? I’m trying to think of a good one in my head and haven’t come up with anything but this
      Nunez LF
      Cano 2B
      Jeter SS
      Grandy CF
      Arod 3rd
      Tex 1st
      Ibanez RF
      Chavez DH
      Martin C

  219. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I think jjyank us got it wrong tonight. We rooted for Hughladay when we should have rooted for….help me out here.

  220. flamingo says:

    This game is… not fun.

  221. stuart a says:

    bottom line the middle of the order has been horrible. tex with a 280 obp. Cano has 4 RBI’s, and Arod stinks. He has so many weak AB’s it is a joke.

    Did not see Nunezs masterpiece in left. G-d Nunez cannot field no matter where you put him.

    Hughes pitched much better Logan did his usual, he has been avg for 3 years…………

  222. jon says:

    so i just tuned in how was hughes?

  223. Mike Stanley says:

    In related news, the White Sox just got an infield double.

  224. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Sweet, sweet Sazerac. Mashed sugar cubes, bitters, three oz. of rye whiskey, and wash the rim of the glass with some absinthe.

    Also, this:

    Must have.

  225. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Mitchell’s debut. This will be the highlight of my night.

  226. RkyMtnYank says:

    Mitchell coming in is the highlight of the whole game!

  227. flamingo says:

    John couldn’t announce DJ’s first strikeout with a little more… panache?

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:


  228. Don'tcha Know? says:

    I think I can say, with relative confidence, that this has been the worst game of recent memory. My mindset’s in apocalyptic mode for some reason. It’s like the front office, as well as the players and coaches, are in a befuddled daze, trapped by a paralysis of ignorance and indifference. It’s as though time is standing still in Yankee Universe and all orbiting bodies are moving exponentially faster. It’s almost as if . . . Russel Martin’s black hole is slowly but surely starting to engulf the entire organization. The end is nigh!

  229. DERP says:

    Who will be the first to say that Mitchell should take Hughes’ spot?

  230. RetroRob says:

    Let’s go former Tigers. Clemson variety.

  231. flamingo says:


  232. Fin says:

    Freakin Jeter with 3 hits again tonight and back over .400. That is fun to watch. The rest, not so much.

  233. Alkaline says:

    DJ didn’t look too shabby.

  234. JohnnyC says:

    Cano playing like he’s underwater.

  235. Will The Thrill says:

    I dunno about you guys but I’m way more comfortable with letting wild cards like Phelps and Mitchell start instead of the Flyball Wonder Phil Hughes and Sweaty Freddy with his 85MPH heat. I like Mitchell especially since he’s a ground ball guy.

  236. Don'tcha Know? says:

    It’s simple . . . This game has merely played witness to . . . THE CURSE OF THE FIRST INNING HOMER!

  237. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Charity begins at home indeed. Nick Johnson and Ma and Pa Matusz can sleep a bit easier tonight.

    Supernova will get the job done tomorrow.

  238. forensic says:

    Thank god that crapfest is over.

  239. RetroRob says:

    They were bound to win one eventually.

    Two out of three tomorrow.

  240. Don'tcha Know? says:

    Ayala: Yankee killer.

  241. pistol pete says:

    Hughes was better but not good enough. Four runs in five and two thirds against a poor team at home is better but not good enough. For me it’s time to head to the pen replacing him with Andy and trying one of the kids for the five spot. Who knows maybe we get another Nova. Hughes at this point is not a starter, loses too many games, doesn’t get deep enough into games and frankly the five year experiment is over.

  242. JohnC says:

    Cheer up guys. The Red Sox just lost too

  243. jbkx says:

    Hughes needs gone, not into the bullpen.

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