Last Place: Yanks go out like wimps in loss to KC


So what exactly do the Yankees do well right now? The answer is nothing other than lose and not bother to capitalize in run-scoring situations. They have that down to a science.

(AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)


Hiroki Kuroda wasn’t terrible but he wasn’t great. Three runs in 5.1 IP — two on a Mike Moustakas homer that would have sailed foul in a normal-sized stadium — shouldn’t result in an automatic loss but that’s life for a pitcher on the Yankees these days. Kuroda allowed seven hits and three walks (one intentional), giving up the first run(s) of the game for the eighth time in his nine starts. For once it would be nice if they didn’t have to play catch-up with their supposed number two starter on the mound. Hiroki’s performance continued a recent trend of starts that rate anywhere from “awful” to “meh.”

Cody Eppley and Clay Rapada pitched well enough in their short relief appearances (not gonna ding Rapada for walking a right-handed batter) but Freddy Garcia got hammered, specifically by Jeff Francoeur. Frenchy launched a two-run homer and Garcia went on to allow five hits and a walk in 2.1 IP, striking out no one. He’s quite useless, even for the 12th man on the staff.

That's the face you make when you have a .305 OBP. (Mike Stobe/Getty Images)


Another night, another 13 (thir-friggin’-teen!) at-bats without a hit with runners in scoring position. That includes another bases loaded, no outs situation that yielded zero runs — Robinson Cano struck out looking, Alex Rodriguez struck out swinging, and Raul Ibanez flew out to deep left-center. That’s the second time they’ve failed to convert a bases loaded, no outs situation into even one run in what, the last four games? They did it Friday as well, right? Gross.

Aside from A-Rod, who singled and doubled, the two through six hitters went a combined 0-for-13 with three walks and seven strikeouts. Curtis Granderson drew two of the walks, Cano the other. Russell Martin chipped in a pair of hits, then Mark Teixeira and Eric Chavez had one each to recap the offense. The Yankees have some serious offensive problems at the moment and they can’t wait around for things to fix themselves much longer. These games count.

(Mike Stobe/Getty Images)


We have two candidates for stupid play of the nigth. First, why was A-Rod tagging up with one out in the sixth? He was on second and made it into third safely, but Alex Gordon’s throw beat him to the bag and most of the time he’d have been out. I understand they’re struggling to score runs, but forcing things and making stupid mistakes won’t bring the bats back to life.

Secondly, what in the world was that play by Teixeira in the sixth? The Royals had a man on third and one out, but he got caught between looking the runner back to third and stepping on first after fielding a chopper. He ended up making a poor throw across the diamond and everyone was safe. Again, let’s get back to smart baseball please. Look the runner back and step on the base for the sure out.

That’s really it, I have nothing else to add. Monday’s loss was the Yankees’ third straight, sixth in seven games, eighth in ten games, and 14th in 24 games. Coupled with the Red Sox’s win over the Orioles, the Yankees are now in last place in the AL East. They deserve every bit of it as well.

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Game two of this three-game series will be played Tuesday night, though yet again the forecast looks ugly. If they do play, it’ll be Phil Hughes and Luke Hochevar on the bump.

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  1. stuart a says:

    why have garcia on the team? trade him to the Nl or waive him..

    the offense is worse then pathetic. cano sucks his lack of rbi’s is sad not as said as old man arod and pull the ball texiera but horrible anyway.

    swisher is as clutch as ever…..


    • Jesse says:

      Cano is hitting .303/.359/.473 on the year. He’s really not one of the guys you should be worried about.

    • pat says:

      Bet that felt good.

    • Brian in NH says:

      RBI is meaningless. You can hit .303/.359/.473 on the year, but if nobody is on base in front of you then you’re RBI numbers are going to be down.

      • RI$P FTW says:

        Wins are meaningless, too. They don’t count until September.
        They never count for a pitcher, unless CC is trying to win the Cy Young award.

        Am I doing it right?

  2. Arya says:

    Last place in the AL East. We’ve hit rock bottom. Remember when the Sox were the laughing stock of the division? That’s now us. And the Sox and Rays are doing this without their best player. This team needs a jolt. Is it Gardner? They better hope so.

    • Mr. Sparkle says:

      Laughing stock of the division? Try Major League Baseball. If it weren’t for the Tigers, Angels and Phillies, they would be left wearing the dunce cap all by themselves. However, the most recent run of futility HAS to put the Yankees at the bottom of that pitiful pack.

  3. DZ says:

    So far the offense has been worse then the pitching. If only we had somesort of offensive position player waiting in AAA to bring some life to this team. What do you think it would take to get this montero kid, how about a high ceiling righty.

    In all seriousness, they need to make some sort of a move or the season will be over before july. His value is at an all time peak right now, but what would it take to pry hamilton from the rangers, it seems like nolan ryan even realizes he’s going to test free agency in the offseason… and that swing in YS3 would lead to ridiculous numbers.

    • Bunt Gardner says:

      Yes, it would be nice (until a DL trip raised it’s head), but no way the Rangers trade him…they’ll ride his bat to the playoffs. Even if they did, the price would be enormous.

  4. Andrew says:

    Between the big club sucking right now and the news today about banuelos joining campos in the injured elbow group, it’s hard to not feel like the yanks are snake bitten right now.

  5. forensic says:

    Anybody else find it funny when O’Neill was talking about the Royals in the third inning when they swung at the first pitch after a walk with Kuroda working himself into trouble, and how they only did it because they’re young and veteran teams wouldn’t do that.

    Has he watched this team at all? They’ve done that a ton lately.

    • Mainer says:

      Maybe he doesn’t get YES in Ohio because Jeter just did that Saturday v Cincy

    • mt says:

      I noticed the same thing – makes O’Neil look foolish since Yanks have been bad offenders recently. I guess that’s what having a heavily rotating crew of analysts does.

      • TomH says:

        Much as I liked him when he played, O’Neill rarely has anything intelligent to say as a commentator. He provides little more than comic bits.

  6. Mainer says:

    Well, I guess this where being the AL East becomes that double edged sword.

    On the positive side, as bad as it is in NY, the Yanks sit a mere 5 games back in the loss column. Not a death sentence.

    On the negative side, as competitive as the AL East is, the Yanks can’t afford to fall too far behind

    They are a ton of head-to-heads left but it must start with our beloved Yankees removing their heads from their a$$es

  7. forensic says:

    Bravo for the recap. Way to tell it like it is and give up trying to sugarcoat things.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I was actually going to suggest a nice walk and cocktail for Axisa before writing the wrapups.

  8. The Guns of Navarone says:

    You have to tip your cap to Paulino and the Royals. He used all two of his pitches effectively and kept the Yankees off balance. The Yankees only had 13 chances with RISP. You can’t expect them to capitalize on all of them.

    Kuroda is sure to turn it around. He’s shown an outstanding ability to get lefties out which should play well at Yankee stadium. Although the offense is struggling, the Yankees can rely on their pitching and defense to prevent runs until the hits start dropping. This is a well run organization whose player development track record is never in question. Reinforcements are only a call away in a stacked minor league system full of sure fire stars.

    It’s only May. The important thing is that the manager had the players well rested for their playoff run. The intentional walks issued really throws the other team off their game. That kind of hardcore strategery is sure to pay off down the line. This team is in great shape.

  9. Manny's BanWagon says:

    This is about as ugly a stretch of baseball from the Yankees in years that I can recall.

    Bright side is the only place to go from here is up. I hope.

    • TomH says:

      Nahh, they can still aim at taking last place all for themselves.

    • Crooow says:

      Wow, and you’re a .500 team.

      Think of us Royals fans. We are HURTING for a .500 season. Pining, even.

      We suuuUUUUUUuuuckkk.

      -disgruntled Royals fan

  10. forensic says:

    All those strikeouts with RISP where putting the ball in play would score a run or at least advance a runner really killing them.

    And yet people say they’re no big deal and the same as anything else…

    • jim p says:

      Right?! And in a zero-sum game, where Ks are good for a pitcher, somehow they’re not bad for a batter.

    • Need Pitching says:

      would a pop out be better?
      or maybe a triple play ground out?
      maybe a 1-2-3 double play where no run scores?

      but I guess those outs would be better because they put the ball in play?

      unproductive outs are unproductive in any form

      • forensic says:

        A pop-out at least forces the defense to make a play, as does a GIDP. But, there are far fewer of either of those compared to runner advancing groundouts or sac flies or even hits (though apparently not with this team).

        Yes, unproductive outs are unproductive, but if it at least advances a runner or even scores a runner then it’s better than outs that have no chance of doing anything.

        • forensic says:

          Even if Cano grounds into one of his many double plays, at least they would’ve had a run on the board.

        • Need Pitching says:

          so with bases loaded and no outs a double or triple play grounder that scored no runs is better because it forces the defense to make a play?

          (I know what you mean, I’m only being a pain in the ass because of your “And yet people say they’re no big deal and the same as anything else” comment.

          Obviously K’s aren’t the same as other outs in productive out situations, though other outs can sometimes be worse (and the way the Yankees are going lately, often are). I doubt anyone ever seriously said otherwise – making your sarcastic comment quite unnecessary.

          Bottom line – fail is fail in any form.

          • forensic says:

            I doubt anyone ever seriously said otherwise – making your sarcastic comment quite unnecessary.

            That’s not true. That actually is said around here quite often. But anyway…

            • Need Pitching says:

              not in regard to being the same as making a productive out

              productive outs aren’t entirely failing
              I believe the point of those statements was how one entirely fails doesn’t really make a difference
              what makes a difference is whether the job is done or not, whether its via hit, walk, or productive out

      • eephus_pitch says:

        Why compare strikeouts to triple plays? There are like 15 strikeouts in every game, as compared to triple plays which occur maybe once or twice a season.
        Obviously the triple play is the worst possible thing a hitter could ever do. It also happens virtually never.

        • Need Pitching says:

          just making the point that putting the ball in play isn’t automatically a good thing

          most of the time it is, but not always

          • eephus_pitch says:

            Sure it’s not always a good thing. I think it’s just that these guys could at least be driving in runs with outs once in a while and they’re not even doing that much. Not hitting with RISP is terrible enough, but not even getting RBI outs is just killer.

          • Mike says:

            Putting the ball in play most of the time is a good thing with the bases loaded (even exciting when a team does a squeeze play, something JoeG doesn’t do, yet teams do it against him, not often but certainly more often than when he orders a squeeze play).

            Striking out with the bases loaded is almost always bad (unless there’s a passed ball or a wild pitch).

            To put things in perspective:
            With less than 2 outs the Yanks have had 22 appearances at the plate, that is 44 runners in scoring position.

            Out of those 44 runers in scoring position the Yanks have had 17 RBI (plus one run scored with an error and another one with a GIDP), 8 of those 17 RBI came via grand slams. That leaves us them with 9 RBI total, with men in scoring position with less than two outs with the bases loaded… 9!!!

            Out of 44 total runners in scoring position they’ve driven home just 9 frigging runners.

            They’ve given up more outs via GIDP (12 in 6 GIDP) than impulsated runs (9 RBI)… and I am not counting grand slams because they’re an anomaly (2 grand slams out of their 60 Homeruns, or, 0.033% of their homeruns have been grand slams).

          • toad says:

            Pedantic point made.

            Here’s a question. No outs, bases loaded. Would you prefer a strikeout or the ball put in play?

            • pat says:

              That’s a really dumb question as one of the options has about 1000 variables that make it unanswerable. For what it’s worth, if I had to choose between a bases loaded strikeout and a bases loaded homerun I would probably choose the homerun.

  11. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Posted this at the very end of the game thread but, really, between this performance tonight and Banuelos elbow injury new, this is what we’re getting close to…

  12. Kevin says:

    Somebody will be fired soon. Even Hal and Hank will be moved to do something or they will lsoe $$$$.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I don’t agree with the guy either, but I do think you’ll hear about Cashman being summoned to Tampa to talk about how to improve the team, or something of that sort, if this still looks like this more often than not in about a week.

        • Pat D says:


        • Mike says:

          The $teinbrenner boy$ don’t $eem to care about what happen$ with the Yankee$ a$ long a$ people keep $pending at Yankee Stadium.

          If they did, Martin wouldn’t be catching almost everyday. Teixeira wouldn’t be bating 4-5 every time he plays (I see JoeG moving Teix up to avoid people “talking” and “wondering” if Teix is not actually a middle of the order player).

          By the way, what happened with the whole “I am gonna bunt” Teix promised? Even David Ortíz has more bunts than him!

          Though as a team, Yanks have 8 bunts (3 sacrifice hits, 5 bunt hits), add that to 14 bunts against them (7 sacrifice hits, 7 bunt hits).

          JoeG simply doesn’t use strategy. This team would play exactly the same with or without a manager, they just need a pitching coach to move pitchers while allowing the rest of the players to just swing away whenever they want to.

          • Jim Is Bored says:

            If you think a lack of bunts is this team’s problem, I don’t know what to tell you.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            If the Steinbrenners cared about the Yankees, everything would look as I, Mike, want it to.

            Your 2012 RAB readership, ladies and gentlemen.

          • TomH says:

            I agree about the Steinbrenners. Old George was often a pain in the ass, but you were never in any doubt about his “victory or death” outlook.

            Hell, even his diatribes to the press, when the team was playing poorly, often served a purpose, if only to provide the kind of public kick in the ass that managers (like the present one, especially) are afraid to provide themselves.

            We should have a thread someday on ownership.

    • Need Pitching says:

      how does firing someone increase $$$?

      • Kevin says:

        I meant in that if the offense continues to suck,people simply aren’t going to pay money to come see them.

        • Need Pitching says:

          of course
          but firing someone isn’t going to magically fix the offense

          • Mike says:

            Yes it can, because if they bring a manager that can use strategy (bunts, hit and runs, avoid using Teix in the middle of the order, and avoid playing R. Martin, you can increase your chances of winning).

            By the way… when was the last time the Yankees had their best AAA league hitter play a full season the next season in the big leagues? That’s one of the reasons players feel comfortable knowing that they won’t be moved/cut if the make 8-9 millions or more per year, and if the team promotes somebody, it will be one of the worst hitters, so as to avoid embarrasing the major leaguer.

  13. flamingo says:

    That was one depressing summary to read.

  14. Will The Thrill says:

    With every passing game this team shows its age more and more. I’m already looking forward to 2013. Yankees have dug themselves into a hole that in the AL East is too deep to climb out of.

    • Mainer says:

      I have to disagree with that statement. 5 games in the loss column with 120 to play is a drop in the bucket. So many head-to-heads left to play between the 5 AL east teams.

    • forensic says:

      It’s not like they’re able to do an overhaul of the roster though. If they’re old now, why look forward to next year when they’ll be another year older without many different names on the roster?

    • The Guns of Navarone says:

      5 games in May?

      Both Jeter and Cano are going to win a batting title. Both Teixeira and Alex will drive in 100 RBI!! Phil Hughes is a future ace! I read that on Baseball America. This team is fine.

    • Captain Gift Basket says:

      I can’t wait for 2013, too. Arod and Tex’s $54M still on the books, Pineda still trying to break 90 mph on the speed gun, and the Yanks keep slashing payroll from their scouting department because apparently, they’re under the impression their salaries go against the $189M cap.

      • pat says:

        Where did it say they were cutting scouting department payroll?

        • pat says:

          Here’s an interesting article from last offseason that talks about an expanded scouting department.

        • Captain Gift Basket says:

          Yanks can’t possibly be paying their scouts well – they’re getting beat like a drum against the likes of KC. Pitchers with ERAs in the mid 5.00s are mowing them down, and did you see the 2 no-names who took CC deep on Cincinnati? I’m convinced they try to get by on their talent alone.

          • Captain Gift Basket says:

            Oh, and great call on passing on Aroldis Chapman and posting that embarrassingly low bid on Darvish. Terrific scouting, fellas. Not to mention they still haven’t figured out the .200 hitting Carlos Peña.

            • Need Pitching says:

              hmmmm, how do you know any of that was scouting?
              by all reports I’ve seen, Yankees scouts loved Darvish

            • pat says:

              Aroldis Chapman the reliever?

              • Mike Axisa says:

                Yeah, one $30M setup man isn’t enough, they need the lefty to go with the righty.

                And Darvish walked six Mariners in four innings tonight. I suppose that’s on the advance scouts though.

                • Kosmo says:

                  Darvish is 6-2 with a 3.00 ERA . So one night he struggles with his control???? He still has pitched better than just about every Yankee SP. Not bad for a rookie.

                  • Get Phelps Up (formerly Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat) says:

                    It’s not just one night – he has a 5.1 BB/9 this year, which is significantly higher than any Yankee starter.

                    • Kosmo says:

                      Darvish is pitching good baseball. Who would you rather have Darvish or Kuroda or Hughes or Nova ? I´d take Darvish everytime.

          • pat says:

            Lol, so CC gives up a homerun to a no-name and it’s the advance scout’s fault?

          • Bunt Gardner says:

            So, instead of signing and developing quality pitching, all the Yankees have to do is develop quality well-paid scouts and then they’ll mow everyone down?

            • Mike says:

              Yes. Because by having a better crop of scouts they can sign better players to fill their needs when needed. Though with Ca$hman that would be useless.

              The Yankees developed a good young centefielder whom again is batting pretty well, is young, can field and has an arm twice as powerful as the CF they traded him for (adding 2 pitchers in the process in a 3×1 trade).

              The Yankees also developed a good catcher but decided to trade him for a pitcher with a history of injuries. Now all they have is a 0.170 AVG / 0.317 OBP / 0.317 SLG catcher who can’t block wild pitches (one WP every 2 games = 17 in 34 games, compared to none by Stewart in 11 games).

              The Yankees developed two good pitchers in Kennedy and Hughes. One is pitching for another team ’cause he got traded. The other one was converted from a really good reliever to a pretty bad starter, and he will be a starter until he is traded and another team converts him to closer (unless the yankees blow his arm like they’ve done with many pitchers in the Joe’s eras).

              They’re not the only players… Melky Cabrera was traded (along 12 millions going to the braves and 2 young pitchers) for the awful awful awful Javier Vázquez who for the second time bombed in the bronx, and Melky has been better in 2011-2012 than any other Yankee except Jeter and Canó.

              • Pat D says:

                A lot of wrong in this response, mostly you thinking Melky has been better than everyone other than Jeter and Cano since last year. He has not been better than Granderson, for sure, and he really hasn’t been significantly better than Swisher or Gardner overall.

                Montero isn’t a “good” catcher. He’s a good hitter who no one thinks can actually catch. Also, Pineda didn’t come with an injury history.

    • Jesse says:

      They’re 5.5 back of first and 2.5 back of one of the Wild Card spots, really not a hole that is “too deep to climb out of”. Besides, whenever the team plays poorly everyone is old, whereas when they play well they’re experienced.

      • eephus_pitch says:

        Mathematically, they’re right in it. One good week could put them at the top of the standings.
        Objectively? It’s very hard to imagine this team having a good week.

        • Jesse says:

          Well, yeah, if they play like this every week they’ll never have a good week. I’m sure they have a few good weeks in their bones, at least I hope they do.

      • Mr. Sparkle says:

        I don’t look at the standings in May. I look at the performance and this looks like a last place team. Not to say they won’t snap out of it at some point…but I was saying the same thing about eventually snapping out of it in 2008. I bet a lot of people were saying the same thing in 1965. It doesn’t always “just happen.”

        • Jesse says:

          Fair enough. Just trying to be optimistic. There’s a lot of baseball left to be played. Sure, if they play like this there’s no way in hell they’ll make the playoffs, but personally, I think they’ll be able to right the ship and make the playoffs.

        • Need Pitching says:

          If 2008 happenned again with the new playoff format, the Yankees would be a playoff team.

        • TomH says:

          You’re damn right that in 1965 people were saying the Yanks would “snap out of it.” All that stopped for good in 1966, when the water finally reached its level.

      • Mike says:

        Yeah, 5.5 is not a lot if you were in second place, but with 3 other teams above you and one tied with you, you’re in a deeeep hole, because to get out you need for the rest of the division to play poorly in a week while not playing vs team in their division.

        You could go 6-0 but will advance one game if the top team goes 5-1. And even going 6-0 every week while the top team goes 4-2, you would need a month to climb out of last place… a FRIGGING MONTH! and that’s prying the other three teams in your division besides the leader, play below 0.500

        Yeah, it is “feasible”, but I don’t see them nowhere near first place from here until mid June, and unless the FO shakes this team we could very well have a Yankees team 12-13 games below first place in mid July.

    • pat says:

      With every passing game this team shows its age more and more.

      Lol. We’re old at 2B, CF, 1B, C and RF? SS is having a career year. What does that leave? 3B and a SP?

      • eephus_pitch says:

        What SS are you referring to? The last three weeks count just as much as the first 4.

        • Need Pitching says:

          exactly, counting the last 3 and the first 4, he’s hitting 343/386/480
          Jeter hasn’t been the problem this year, even with his recent slumping

          • eephus_pitch says:

            Yeah, but “career year” is a pretty big stretch, no matter how you spin it.

            And yes, Jeter’s average numbers are fine. For now. The past three weeks of zero production are hard to ignore, though. It’s only the first 4 weeks of lights-out play that balance out his recent offensive doldrums.

            Anyway, I’m not looking at averages or where his numbers “end up” by September. I’m seeing bad at-bats and lazy groundballs. The groundball rate cannot be sustained if we want to see Jeter have any kind of productive season. Which I think we all do.

            Except for that Captain Gift Basket troublemaker.

  15. Matt DiBari says:

    I have a theory on the Teixeira play. Its some kind of rule that the Yankees have to play the worst defense imaginable behind Kuroda.

  16. Tony says:

    Everyone needs to relax a little. Sure the Yankees are playing the worst stretch of baseball Iv’e seen since 2008, but it’s only up from here. Hopefully we will all be laughing about this horrible 2 weeks next week.


  17. pat says:

    Dude, Mike, your YES overlords are totally going to censure you for bashing the team like that. You deviated from the script. THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY

    • Pat D says:

      I’m pretty sure that Mike has said several times over YES has never asked/requested/told him to do anything regarding the site.

  18. jim p says:

    Wasn’t it 2008 when the Yanks scored 2 or fewer runs something like 54 times? And then in their wins they’d score near, or at, double-digits? So they had great overall numbers offensively, but actually were hardly in about 1/3 of their games.

    Whatever the year if not 2008, this year feels like that year so far at this point.

  19. bobby two knives says:

    In my opinion, the road back to the top begins with eliminating the “rests” for Jete and ARod. If they rest anymore, we can count the post-season goodbye. Get the starters back into a daily routine, instead of all the mix and match. Put ‘em in the lineup where they belong, and keep them there, with the exception of platooning Ibanez and Jones. If things turn around and they begin to contend, then rest Jeter on day 1 and Arod on day 4, and the catcher when needed. Dump Garcia and bring up a kid from AAA. We won’t need a closer until we start getting leads, so give Soriano work 2 days on and one day off regardless of the situation. I truly believe every player needs to get in a rhythm before he can perform up to par. Oh, and cancel batting practice tomorrow, and the next day maybe. And it’s time for Gerardi to blow his stack. nuf said.

    • forensic says:

      They cancelled BP today and told everyone to come in later. That didn’t seem to do the trick.

    • sangreal says:

      I don’t know about everything else, but I’m with you on the half-day off nonsense. Put (one of) the DH at DH and the fielders in their spots. It’s getting ridiculous. They’re in their 30s, not 60s.

      • forensic says:

        I think it’s way out of hand with A-Rod. He’s DH’ed in nearly a third of his games. Tonight he tied his season high in DH games, and they’re only a quarter through the season.

        I get it, you want to keep him healthy, but geez, play the damn game and stop managing scared. Most likely, he’s going to get hurt at some point anyway given his recent trends, so just let him play.

        Hopefully when Gardner gets back it lessens with Ibanez DH’ing more, but Girardi will probably just torpedo that by sitting Gardner against every lefty anyway and playing Ibanez in the field still.

        • Need Pitching says:

          Ibanez doesn’t start against lefties now. How would sitting Gardner against a lefty end up with Ibanez in the field?

          Part of the reason ARod has DH’d so often has nothing to do with him needing rest. It was because they wanted to get Nunez, and now Chavez, into the lineup, and figured if they were playing anyways, they may as well take advantage of the situation and preemtively give ARod rest. (foolish with Nunez, imo, because of the defense lost, but if Chavez is going to be in the lineup anyways, why not rest ARod?)If ARod didn’t DH today, Ibanez still would have been in the OF. The only difference would be that Chavez would be at DH instead of ARod.

          It really has nothing to do with managing scared, and everything to do with who is in the lineup.

          • forensic says:

            Sorry, meant to say Jones, but the point still stands. Like I said, I hope it changes when Gardner is back, but I’ve lost a lot of faith in Girardi.

    • Mr. Sparkle says:

      How about enough of the Wise and Nix-types of the world…retreads who couldn’t catch on anywhere else. I for one wouldn’t be against calling up Ronnier Mustelier until Gardner gets back (which at this rate will be late-July.) Mustelier’s the only guy in Scranton that could remotely be called a prospect (or young) and the only guy hitting down there that I believe COULD POSSIBLY keep it up in the majors. Not at a .339 clip, but I have no idea why they think a couple of journeymen are going to catch fire. We’ve seen them. It’s not happening.

      Enough of the bean-counting. Knock one of the many useless players off the 40-man roster and call up someone that may actually be able to help and may inject a little life into the lineup.

      • Mike says:

        The Yankees will hardly promote a good hitting AAA leaguer, not in this world, they love washed up players and journeymen.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        Forget the retreads! Let’s call up the guy who’s mashing because he’s too old for every level he’s played in thus far!

  20. DT says:

    Well the only direction is up i guess. Cano needs to step up with RISP, he’s batting under .200 and has had more chances than anyone else on the Team. Tex and Swisher both are lost and probably are the worst switch hitting duo playing right now. I wish someone would kick Russ off the Bus. They can still make a run, THe Sox started slow and have heated up recently so can this team but those guys need to step up. THe fact that we’re relying on the old men like Jeter, Arod and Ibanez to get on base (Arod and Jeter leads Team in OBP, Raul leads in OPS) or get hits speaks volumes about how pitiful everyone else is hitting.

  21. Captain Gift Basket says:

    So the Yanks lose Game 5 in the Divisional Playoffs last year, 3-1, leaving the bases loaded twice, and Cashman focuses on pitching. Meanwhile, he trades away their best hitting prospect in ages when this lineup was due to regress even further with their aging core.

    I haven’t been an advocate of firing Cash, but he missed the boat this off-season. What about all these wonderful arms coming up through the system? What was with the urgency to trade for Pineda and his God – awful second half stats? He couldn’t wait till June/July to try and make that trade?

    • RBC says:

      No, the final score was 3-2. The ONE thing Teixiera did in that ENTIRE SERIES during Game 5 vs the Tigers was walk in that second run for the Yanks.

    • Mr. Sparkle says:

      Thank you. I’ve been saying that since the trade went down. For the last two years, this team has flopped due to offensive problems. So Cashman’s answer is to basically continue to put the same lineup out there again? While they’re at it, trade THE top offensive prospect in the system (not to mention one of the top prospects in all of baseball)…who, based on a small sample, looked pretty darn ready to crack the lineup this year. And, instead of trading him for an established arm, trades him for two young pitchers, despite the fact that Cashman, outside of the no-brainers of Sabathia and Mussina, has one of the WORST track records in acquiring pitchers.

      Considering how important it seemed to be to get Pineda, one has to wonder if Banuelos and Betances are nothing more than a lot of hype. Particularly when you look at how they’ve performed so far this season.

    • DT says:

      No he was right to trade for pitching. The offense was still a top 3 offense last year, while their pitching staff was saved by two 35+ year old has beens that well over preformed their true talent. Pineda was meant to help secure the staff for the future. And Even if we still had Montero his numbers last year was good in a small sample size but right now looking at what he is doing in Seattle suggests that he wouldn’t contribute much offensively this year, and would in fact be one of our worst hitters. And yes while Seattle depress power numbers, it doesn’t affect how Montero isn’t walking or taking pitches and is striking out a ton. And have you seen ManBan and Betances pitch lately? Betance would be lucky if he can be in the bullpen and Banuelos is injury prone and also putting up not so pretty numbers as well. Pineda was pitching at an elite level in his rookie year, even with a bad second half which was due to inflated BABIP in two bad months. Those kind of pitchers don’t come by often…

      • Kosmo says:

        Are you serious ? Montero has 6 HRs,6 doubles, 22 RBI and a .262 ave. Right now the only thing that needs a little work is his lack of patience at the plate hence the low walk and relatively high K totals but I´m sure he´ll improve upon that with TIME.
        Yanks would love to have that kind of youthful production at C and part time DH.

      • Mike says:

        Sorry to burst your bubble but:

        Montero has:

        a) a higher AVG than half the hitters in the Yanks team (8 out of 15, 4 out of 9 everyday players).

        b) more HR than everybody except Granderson, Ibáñez and Swisher.

        c) more RBI except for Swisher, Granderson and Ibáñez.

        d) more hits than 10 out of 15 batters in the yankees team.

        By the way, Pineda’s numbers were not dut to his “inflated BABIP”, his “inflated BABIP” was a consecuence of his dropped velocity, higher ground rate and overall diminished quality in his pitches.

        Now, why don’t you examine Pineda’s minor league stint, while missing almost two seasons due to shoulder and arm problems… come on, go ahead. Unless you deem that as “non important”, unlike Bañuelos.

        • DT says:

          Why are you looking at only Average? That is down right stupid. His OPS is barely above .700 with a wRC+ of 97 which is below average. Look up the number before saying some dumb crap. Also Pineda’s Velocity first half was the same as his second half. Once again look up the numbers first. Als Pienda’s K/9 and BB/9 stayed the same last year in the secon half. Yes his GB rate increase but so did his HR per FB. So yes his BABIP should have went up but his HR per FB shoudl have went down so it would have even out but it didn’t. His xFIP was still very good and steady.

        • DT says:

          Pineda only had one arm injury in the minors which is an elbow strain, which is completely unrelated to his current injury. I cited ManBan injury as pushing back so it’s not as if he’ll be ready to contribute anytime soon. We expected Pineda to contribute now and in the future, which would have put him ahead of ManBan if Pineda stayed healthy.

  22. RetroRob says:

    Things will get better.

    Things will get better.

    Things will get better.

    Things will get better.

    If I keep repeating it, will it be so?

    Who would have thunk that on May 21, both the Yankees and the Red Sox would be arriving at .500 for the first time each, but heading in different directions, at least for the time being.

    Things will get better…

  23. mustang says:

    I think they have reached bottom I have no factual analysis to back this up, but I think they are going to turn it around soon.
    I do enjoy some of our proud and faithful jumping ship with 120 games left to go.
    So here they stand on May 22, 2012 5.5 games back our repost this WHEN they are in first place.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Tonight feels like a much better matchup, even with Hughes on the mound. Yes, there will be signs of life soon. No, it actually isn’t as bad as it seems. Yes, it certainly does feel like complete rotten ass right now.

  24. Bubba says:

    Considering how awful they’ve looked just about every aspect of the game, maybe a rainout is just what this team needs. I’m trying to be hopeful here but it’s getting harder every day.

    • Jesse says:

      I was thinking before today’s game that a rainout wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. This team could use a day off. It may or may not “work”, but it’d be nice if the guys could just clear their heads and not worry about playing a game on a particular day.

      • forensic says:

        Well, they’re off Thursday too so that would be 2 out of 3 days off. That might put them too much out of rhythm that they wouldn’t even be able to get runners into stranding position.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      Sure, but the team was way better back then.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        ….or was it?

        It felt every bit as shitty. I was there.

        We’re going to get something like this soon. Cashman will fly somewhere, whether it’s to Tampa to meet with the braintrust or to wherever the team is. There will be “we have to do something” moment here soon.

    • bonestock94 says:

      That was the turning point of ’09

    • Holy Ghost says:

      This year’s team is worse than 09′ and other teams in the AL East have gotten better

  25. Midland TX says:

    5.5 back and .500 on May 21st:


  26. Ethan says:

    Well on the bright side the front office might realize that it will be better financially to go over the 189m limit to boost attendance next year (if the team keeps struggling). This might mean we will be in the race for some of the big name free agents this offseason.

  27. Bavarian Yankee says:

    it’s just ridiculous right now. I counted 4 Ks from Paulino that were right down the middle. I mean come on, at least make some contact, my grandma wouldn’t strike out on those pitches. Again we had the bases loaded with no outs and didn’t manage to get a run. Seems to be a new Yankees Classic ™

    Right now the only positive thing is that we are so bad that we could be sellers at the trade deadline and get some prospects for guys like Hughes, Kuroda, Swisher etc.

    • Mike says:

      Prospects for Hughes who down right stinks? we would be lucky if anybody offers a fringe minor leaguer, a AA minor leaguer perhaps.

      Kuroda? The pitcher nobody wanted when he was a free agent? Think again.

      Swisher? I know there’s a lack of RF who can produce, but man he is awful in the OF, has almost one missplay per game played there (though no errors LMAO), and still he smiles like dumb…

  28. jackstrawelf says:

    When will they finally fire Kevin Long. I have been calling for his job for years. There is nobody hitting right now and career wise they are all worse after working with Kevin Long besides Granderson’s HR. Jeter dropped him and is 1000xs better. These guys were all all-stars before becomming Yankees and they slowly decline. Bring back Chambliss!!!! I have to beleive that if George was still running things, he would be gone and mayber even Girardi as well. The whole Yankees scouting department should be fired as well. It is almost a given now that when they face a nobody pitcher they will be shut out, how is that acceptable. Other teams are not having this problem. Obviously the scouting sucks and that makes Kevin Longs job even more impossible. I dont even enjoy watching these games as I can predict what move Girardi will make and how bad the payoff will be. He hasnt made a good managerial move since 2009 world series. Changes, players have lost motivation!!! Changes!!!

    • I am not the droids you're looking for... says:

      I don’t necessarily agree that he *should* be fired but I am 100% sure that if George were alive he *would* be fired.

    • Midland TX says:

      AL Team Batting/OBP:

      NYY: .265/.335 (3rd/3rd)
      SEA: .234/.292 (13th/14th)

      But Chambliss is the answer!

  29. Monterowasnotdinero says:

    The Mariners scored 6 runs on 5 hits. Is that something we will do this year?

    Yanks sucking the air out of baseball joy for me.

    RISPiratory failure=baseball death….

  30. Brian in NH says:

    Just please start winning. thats all we want. its all we ask for. i don’t care if its with too many homers or a thousand bunt singles at this point. i just want some wins.

  31. Melancholy Zombie says:

    If the real Steinbrenner was still alive and running the show this would be most definitely be appropriate:

  32. JohnC says:

    But he isn’t , so it’s not. Now on with your day!

  33. Jose M. Vazquez.. says:

    Many of us fans were against the signing of Kuroda and Garcia. Kuroda was a National league West pitcher where many of the lineups are AAAA. Garcia’s junk could not hold up forever. I once pleaded that some of those triple A guys could do just as well as Kuroda and Garcia and cost less to boot. They have 3/4 of the season to prove us wrong. I know it is the hitting that is bad. What good is OBP or OPS if nobody drives you in. I don’t take solace on other’s misfortunes, but there are other teams with better pitching and hitting than us that are playing just as bad. The thing is that I expect these guys to play better as the weather warms up. If they don’t then it’s time for the glue factory.

    • Bavarian Yankee says:

      who was against signing Kuroda? “many of us”? I don’t think so.

      • Steve says:

        No, Mike said it was great, so 99% of the board replaced their John Danks jerseys with Hiroki Kuroda jerseys on the spot

        • Robinson Tilapia says:

          I supported signing him. I supported trading for him last year. I jumped for joy when the MLBTR notification came up on my phone mere seconds after being completely befuddled by thatothertransaction. I am going to grab through the screen and choke him now. It happens.

  34. Stevis says:

    what exactly are the Yankees going to do or could have done to upgrade their offense…they did…. Ibanez is hitting…what are they going to do… get rid of A-Rod and Tex??? Are there better options that they could have come up with in right field..I think not.
    The pitching sucks …I hate them losing , but with what we have now and the near future it’s going to be a very very long miserable season

    • jsbrendog says:

      of course the 2 things everyone was sure of, ibanez sucking and the piutching being better than last year, are the things that go wrong. le sigh.

      whatever, as long as we’re within 5-6 games still by the allstar break anything can happen, say what say what, anything can happen

  35. jjyank says:

    Man, I’m as frustrated as anyone, and this is getting hard to watch, but there are an awful lot of commenters who have flat out given up on 2012 entirely. I don’t much like the fair weather fans, in any sport. Somebody above pointed out that the Yankees are 5 games back in the loss column with 120 games left. Tell me how that is the absolute end of the 2012 season?

    Again, it’s hard to watch, but this team (almost the same team) had the best record in the AL last season. I for one refuse to believe that everyone from that team has permanently declined so drastically. For those that disagree with me, that’s fine, you are free to have your own opinion. But I choose to have faith. I missed baseball too damn much in the offseason to give up on the season with 120 games to play.

    • jsbrendog says:

      lookit mr rational ovah heyah. it’s obvious the yankees are literally cooked. like, in an ovens. i’m terning in my season tickets dey suck so bad. !!!111!!1!!11!!!!1!!11

    • Randi B says:

      Fair weather Yankees fans? You dont say!

  36. jsbrendog says:

    doom. ed.

  37. JohnC says:

    One question I have is why is Garcia still on this team? He is a complete waste of roster space. DFA him and bring up Musteiller from Scranton. Kid has hit all year and is better defensively than Nunez. Need something, anything to gove this team a jolt.

  38. OMG! Bagels! says:

    I’m rarely a ledge jumper or pessimistic but they deserve to be in the basement. They is teh horrible.

    And being the Yankees with their record of success and the payroll (lower, but still the highest), the world of baseball is snickering.

    I have a few sets of tickets in the next few weeks and I don’t even want to go.

    Did they get boo’d last night? I turned it off after a while so I don’t know. I hate people who boo the team but I would be tempted.

    • Deep Thoughts says:

      You’re worried that “the world of baseball is snickering?” What are you, a high school sophomore?

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