Saturday Night Open Thread


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This is the perfect time of year. The weather’s great — not too cold and not disgustingly humid NYC summer yet — and right about now is when the Yankees usually start to go on a bit of a roll. They’ve now won five of six following this afternoon’s beatdown of the Mariners, and they were just one bad David Robertson inning away from six wins in a row. Since Mariano Rivera‘s injury, they’ve won six of nine. It’s an unfortunate reference point, but wins are wins.

Anyway, here is tonight’s open thread. MLB Network is airing a game (teams depend on where you live), but the biggest game of the night is Game Seven between the NY Rangers and the Capitals at the Garden (7:30pm ET on NBC Sports Network). Winner of that game will play the Devils in the Eastern Conference Finals. Talk about that or whatever else you want here.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. Dan in Atlanta says:

    Let’s go Rangers!!!

  2. Steve S. says:



  3. Mike Axisa says:

    I’d say a goal less than two minutes in qualifies as a good start!

  4. Preston says:

    I would like to say that this start makes me think Hughes is turning it around. I think that it instead tells me take take pitching numbers by by Rangers, Angels and Oakland pitchers with a grain of salt. They get 3+ starts a year against the Mariners.

    • Jonathan says:

      The Rangers pitchers get to face the Angels/A’s/Mariners. Those are NL offenses. And besides their own ballpark they’re all canyons. I mean if you combined the Angels/A’s/Mariners best players would you even have as good of an offense as we do?

    • Steve S. says:

      Whoa, Nelly. It was a good start, but it was the Mariners. If he did the same thing in AAA you’d grade it on a curve, and the Ms are effectively a AAA squad.

  5. Kramerica Industries says:

    Only 14 miles separates Prudential Center and Madison Square Garden.

    That’s what I want in the Eastern Conference Finals!

  6. Jonathan says:

    I dunno if it’s the age I grew up in but I was ALWAYS into sports posters. My goal as a kid was to completely poster my walls in my room. Eventually that has gone on to mean postering my entire house. And every time I get close (right before I went to college I was only missing a large wool Yankee pennant that had been at this store for like 4 years but somehow sold) I move.

    But today I finally got my last piece to the puzzle. It’s a very rare 1996 World Series poster with the celebration and Wetteland pointing #1 to the sky while getting mobbed by a bald Boggs etc and on each side are pictures of 6 players. So double what the 09 WS poster had (Jeter/Arod/Cano/Tex/CC/Mo. I find it hilarious that the guy who clinched each round, Andy, and the MVP Matsui along with Posada and Damon aren’t even on the poster). And I had never seen this poster before in enough detail to know exactly who the 12 players were (you can tell well enough on most aka Cecil Fielder). And the 12 players are Boggs/Jeter/Fielder/Tino/Bernie/Strawberry/Mo/Wetteland/Key/Cone/Pettitte/Girardi. But no O’neill. I was only 10 in 1986 but I find it very strange O’neill didn’t make the poster. He hit .302/.411/.474 that year. I have another 96 WS poster and it has Raines instead of Girardi and no Key. So we’re talking 13 players made the 2 96 WS posters and none of them were O’neill. Very strange. Almost as strange as Denny Neagle making the 2000 one over Cone. I know Cone was awful in 2000 but so was Neagle. At least Cone had been a stud Yankee before. This leads me to a question. If the poster in 09 had 12 players on it which 12 should they be and if we won it this year and made no significant trades who should be on it? Feel free to say Mo makes it back for the playoffs (Yovani Gallardo!!!!!!).

  7. jjyank says:

    First open thread we’ve had since this happened, so I’ll say this now.

    I’d like to thanks RAB and all its commenters for keeping me sane during my grad program. I finished this past Tuesday, and without reading a few RAB articles and commenting as a form of a break between papers, I may have gone crazy. Just wanted to thank the RAB community for being awesome.

    Stay classy, RAB.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      What’s your grad program? Law student here, if you’re thinking about going to law school do the sane thing and just kill yourself instead. Whatever you’re doing I hope for yoursake it’s not as bad as law school…

    • Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

      Just so you know…the whole ‘stay classy’ thing is used as an insult towards people who aren’t classy.
      It’s sarcastic, not literal.

  8. DERP says:

    The Rays have five errors tonight and they are only in the fifth.

  9. Pat D says:

    Just saw that Bill Hall is up with the Orioles. Good for him, I guess.

    • Steve S. says:

      Good for him, seems like a good dude. Anyone who’s tight with CC must be alright.

      Its also good news for the Yanks, because now we get to pitch to him.

    • RetroRob says:

      Yeah, although if he had stayed with the Yankees, he would have been called up last week instead of Jason Nix to be the super sub, IN/OF. And with Nunez being sent down, he probably would have stuck with the team through the year. I’m pretty damn sure he’s rather be playing on the Yankees than the Orioles.

      Oh, and Mo wouldn’t be injured. I don’t blame Jason Nix. I blame Bill Hall!

    • Dummies Playing With Balls (formerly Rainbow Connection) says:

      Why stay with the 3rd place Yanks on a minor league team with no home when you can play for the 1st place Orioles?

  10. Brian S. says:

    Real question: Zack Grienke COULD handle New York couldn’t he? His SAD wouldn’t prevent him from having a sub 3 FIP with the Yankees would it?

  11. DERP says:

    I’m pretty sure that Nunez is a better defensive third baseman than any player the Orioles put out there.

  12. Brian S. says:

    Zach McAllister 8 K’s and 0 BB’s (4 ER’s however) against Boston in Fenway through 7 innings. I thought he didn’t have an out pitch?

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      ANOTHER TEARABLE CASHDUMMY TRADE!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!11!!!!1!!

      • Preston says:

        I was a little upset with that trade. I would have rather kept playing Colin Curtis than get Austin Kearns. Small return for an interesting young arm at AAA. Not a big deal though, Phelps and especially Nova are better than him and Warren is probably about as good.

  13. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Who is this guy that’s wearing 65 and what is he doing with Phil Hughes?

  14. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Speaking of shitty trades for pitchers, at least Cashman didn’t acquire Ubaldo…good god, he’s been fucking terrible in Cleveland. 77 ERA+ in 105.1 innings.

    • jjyank says:

      Agreed completely. I wasn’t a Ubaldo fan as a trade target, but jeez, even I didn’t think he’d fall off a cliff that hard. I think the non-trades, in some respects, might be Cashman’s biggest strength.

      • Jimmy McNulty says:

        He avoided Santana and Ubaldo…maybe avoiding Pineda would have been prudent. I’ll admit, I didn’t like the trade when it happened…I was about 35% on it. 100 being in love with it and 0 being wanting to kill it with fire. I warmed up to it in February, when I thought about CC, Kuroda, Pineda, Kuroda, and a competent fifth starter I got pretty excited. Hopefully I’ll be able to get a CC, Hamels, Pineda, Nova rotation next year. Right now it looks fucking awful, though.

        • jjyank says:

          The thing is though, Santana and Ubalda has declining peripherals that signaled warning flags. Aside from the (obviously flawed) ERA stat, Pineda didn’t show signs like that. I believe that Pineda’s injury was far more unpredictable than Santana’s injury/decline and Ubaldo’s heavy decline.

          • Jimmy McNulty says:

            Yeah, I’m not saying “Seattle knew he was broken!!!!!” or anything like that. Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t. The Yankees medical staff may suck, it may not. They haven’t had luck rehabbing pitchers, hopefully Mariano’s injury is different. If it doesn’t I’ll sit in a cold shower, cry, and cut myself to a Bjork record. The point is, that this is a risk that’s inherent with young pitchers. Which is exactly why I was cool towards it.

            • jjyank says:

              Absolutely, there is always an inherent risk with trading for or signing a pitcher. The Yankees thought that a young fireballer was more valuable than a young BUC/part-time DH, and I can’t blame them for that. It really sucks that Pineda is on the shelf, but I don’t think anybody knew that would happen.

              • Jimmy McNulty says:

                Well I’d agree if they all end up all they can be, however, I think Montero was a better bet reach his ceiling than Pineda was. I don’t think anyone knew that this would happen, but this is a risk that they took when they traded for him.

                • jjyank says:

                  True, but in all fairness, Pineda had an all-star year under his belt while Montero was still a prospect. Usually the bat is more likely to reach his ceiling than the pitcher is, but there was a gap in experience here.

                  • Jimmy McNulty says:

                    I agree…it’s the inherent risk for pitchers. When trading for pitchers I would have rather traded Montero, Banuelos, Betances, and more for Felix than just Montero for Pineda.

                    • Need Pitching says:

                      I think the Yankees might have rathered that as well. (maybe not with the austerity budget though, who knows?)

                    • jjyank says:

                      Maybe, but who knows? I really don’t think Felix was available, but we can’t exactly close the book on Pineda, Montero, Banuelos, or Betances yet. This deal, and a potential non-Felix deal, will not be properly evaluated for 3-5 years in all likelihood.

                    • Need Pitching says:

                      Felix was definitely not available

                    • jjyank says:

                      Says you? Everything that I’ve read at the time points to the contrary.

                    • jjyank says:

                      My apologies, Need Pitching, I missed the word “not” in your comment. My bad.

                    • Need Pitching says:

                      lol … no problem

  15. Pat D says:

    I think the Rangers just got fucked over. Looked like a good goal to me.

  16. Kramerica Industries says:

    Battle for Hudson River supremacy.

    1994 Conference Final re-match.

    New Jersey vs. New York. Yes!

  17. Craig says:

    No team has won the following series after two 7-game series; and the Devils just shut down the NHL’s best offense. NJ> NY

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