Jun
27
Update: Pettitte out six weeks with fractured left ankle
By3:37pm: The Yankees just announced that Pettitte suffered a fractured ankle and will miss a minimum of six weeks. He is not expected to need surgery. Crud.
2:27pm: Andy Pettitte left today’s game in the fifth inning after getting hit by a hard one-hop ground ball in the left ankle/foot. He remained in the game despite looking uncomfortable while testing it out, then was removed after throwing one pitch to the next batter. Stay tuned for updates.
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Damn.
Say hi to Hiroki Kuroda, Yankees #1 starter.
there is a pitcher who is on the end of his contract and makes a lot of money and is having a terrible year, put a package together using the “talented” minor leaguers, name Linceum (a teammate of Melky’s)
Oswald have a contract yet?
Lee Harvey remains unsigned.
Do you follow baseball? Or do you just pretend to??
No. He just randomly pitched for Texas the other day.
Rough crowd. So many polite baseball followers round here…
+1
K so breaking news thousands of depressed Yankee fans head for the ledges!!
So the dynamics of the 162 game season still eludes folks, eh?
How many people just checked the stats of all starting pitchers at Scranton?
How much longer till Phelps is stretched out?
bad luck this inning.. jeter catches that ball..
rapada cannot get out righties but you cannot walk the bases loaded and asdrubal is a switch hitter
just bad bad luck….
Of all the times for Banuelos to be injured
Doom!!! Season over? Nope! Trade the farm for Hamels or {insert starter here}…then watch them on go the DL. Then watch total Doom and gloom!
Should’ve brought Freddie in from the jump. What would he had done if Rapada would have got out the 5th? Probably brought Garcia in for the 6th.
How bad did it hit him? I’m at work. Hopefully it’s not too bad…
Or, swing a trade to get Moyer or lure Mussina outta retirement! Do it!
Guess Freddy won’t be starting on Friday.
You’ve heard of Every day Eddie, right? Well….
This is why you look at Sheets, Wandy, Dempster, Igawa (well, maybe not him), etc, etc.
I guess they finally realized lets win this game and brought in Garcia. Warren Phelps and DJ Mitchell there time has come. Whatever happened to the Killer B’s? 3 duds what a waste of hype!!!! Keep Garcia as the long man and fill in starters with the Kids….
Can one really waste hype?
Brackman and Betances are duds. Manny is still a young top prospect.
6 weeks — ugh
Fractured ankle.
Out for 6 weeks.
Oboy.
are we speculating here or is this the truth?
crap, hope he is back by september, best case
They’re saying he’s out ~6 weeks with a fracture. Super duper.
Wish my computer didn’t cache so well.
The trade deadline just got a lot more interesting.
Six weeks? Yuck. Time to go to the minors I guess.
Poor Andy. You know this is going to drive him nuts with the “if only”s.
Can we perhaps inject him with with some Joba sweat as a healing elixir?
Where’s Aaron small when you need him
6 weeks, fuck! He looked good today and this entire season thus far. Hello Wandy.
CC
Andy
Pineda
Mo
Joba
Aardsma
Feliciano
Meyers
Cabral
Also Banuelos
and still the best record in baseball.
Campos!
I thought about including him, but I didn’t since there was no way he was going to pitch for the ML team this season anyways.
All those injuries. Must be Rothschild’s fault. Fire him.
Well Really its CC, Andy, Pineda and Mo. Aardsma was signed injured. Joba had TJ coming in (Granted suffered another injury but he wouldn’t have been back until mid season anyway), Feliciano was injured in 2011, etc. etc.
Still sucks though.
Trying to be positive….The arm will be in better shape for the postseason.
Don’t forget gardy!!
Lets see what you got, DJ and Adam.
Not much really and definitely not enough for six weeks worth of starts.
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Insert comment about the fact that you cannot have enough pitcing here.
Seriously, we will be fine — there have been years in the past where the pitching was much thinner (Small, Chacon, etc.) and we survived. The second wild card also helps, as does our current record. I’m not thrilled, but it will be ok.
On the plus side, hopefully we get to see what some of the prospect arms can do in the big leagues.
Freddy went from “Why is he still on the roster?” to the 4th starter heading into the 2nd half.
5th starter. No reason to think CC wont be back.
Today is game 74, so I was getting technical for dramatic effect. He’ll be the 4th heading into the 2nd half — but hopefully that will change with CC returning a start or 2 later.
CC is supposed to start the 1st game back (according to Cashman)
I think the point was that there are 81 games in a half season and he will be on the DL on game 82.
Fractured ankle out 6 weeks minimum
Upset about the turn of events but excited to see DJ, Phelps and Warren…………
Kay stole my thunder, but this could end up being a positive. Pettitte wearing down was a legit concern. Now he’ll be fresh for the stretch run/playoffs.
Wearing down was somewhat a concern, although he’s always been ready for the bell come October.
Greater concern now is if he’s out six weeks and then takes another couple of weeks to build up his arm, then he might not pitch until September. He might be fresh come October, but will he be sharp might be the better question.
I believe when they say 6 weeks that includes rehab time. But still, they said a minimum of 6 weeks which brings it to mid August so September is not out of the question.
Make Joba a starter again.
Obligatory.
No worries, at least not yet.
You developed the AAA kids just for situations such as this (Or so everyone on here said.)
Freddy can replace Pettitte.
Warren gets 2-3 starts for CC.
No need to make any trades.
Pretty dumb for several reasons:
1.) Assuming CC will only miss the two starts.
2.) Pettitte has been the team’s best starter on a rate basis.
3.) Garcia has been the WORST starter on the team when he pitched.
4.) You’re proposing replacing the best starter on the team with the worst
5.) The rotation could have used someone to bolster it already. This just exacerbates that need.
“The rotation could have used someone to bolster it already.”
Wait, huh? I don’t follow that one. Up until about 10:00AM this morning, that statement is untrue. Now, well, sure.
To rebutt:
It might be 2 starts. Or he might never pitch again. Who knows? I go with the team’s projection as a point of reference. The team said 2 starts.
Is losing Pettitte a good thing? No. But does it make sense to trade prospects for a starter TOMORROW?
Look, if we go three or four turns through the rotation and Garcia/Warren stink and we are in second place, then by all means look for someone else. But let’s get to that point first before we start looking to change things. Warren might do a decent job and give the team a chance to win in his starts, which is all you ask for until Andy returns.
“It might be 2 starts. Or he might never pitch again. Who knows? I go with the team’s projection as a point of reference. The team said 2 starts.”
I don’t think I ever said that he might not ever pitch again, if he doesn’t it won’t be because of an adductor. Adductor strains can last longer if not cared for properly, of course he might get hit by a bus or win a life time supply of Captain Crunch and lose his desire to play baseball…you never know.
“Is losing Pettitte a good thing? No. But does it make sense to trade prospects for a starter TOMORROW?”
To be fair, I’ve wanted an upgraded rotation for a while. I have absolutely zero faith in Phil Hughes’ abilities as a starting pitcher, and Ivan Nova I’m unsure about for this year. As far as “second place” goes, the Red Sox are playing quite a bit better and the Os seem to have forgotten that they’re the Os. When ever the Yankees suck in April everyone points out the 2007 New York Yankees, that team was 36-39 on June 27th, the Red Sox are 40-35. If they get an outfielder that deserves to be in the majors (other than Ross, I guess) they’ll be a threat. I think second place is a lot closer than what most of us are willing to admit.
Crank up the dosage on Greinke’s anxiety meds and get the man into pinstripes now!
HE CAN’T HANDLE NEW YORK! For some reason the city itself makes pitching in a stadium of fans that much harder for his anxiety. Even if the crowd size is the same, clearly the only way New York will ever be a good fit for him is if they move to a park that has no seating.
Yeah, i guess the joke that is my post didn’t come through as i’d hoped.
I like Greinke though. He’s performed beyond the point of anxiety actually affecting him at this stage in his career. Prohibitive acquisition costs however makes it all a pipe dream.
No I got your joke, I was joking on the ridiculousness of people determining there is some difference between pitching in a MLB stadium anywhere else & New York. If it was that way, Greinke would’ve retired the 1st time he pitched in even a half full stadium. Basically Javy Vazquez’s decision to pitch hurt in 2004 made New York an impossible place for any player that could “struggle on the big stage”.
Those who assume Greinke can’t pitch in NY because of his disorder are being bit simple. Those who assume his disorder will have no impact when it comes to pitching in NY are being equally simple.
“Stuggling on the big stage” predates Javy Vazquez in 2004 by decades.
Excuse me while I go throw up.
wow DECADES!
Well, it is what it is. I guess it could have been worse, I guess. We’re looking at a solid two months, which brings us to expanded rosters for Sept 1. Meaning, it’s probably very likely the Yanks go get a pitcher before the deadline. However, there is a sliver of hope that btw Warren and Phelps, they can do some super stuff these next two months and not need to fill the spot. I’m in the camp of being pissed that Banuelos is injured. That would have been my feel good elixir, but nope…
On the flip side, at least these next six weeks should rest Pettitte’s arm. Pettitte was going to need rest anyway so at least now the oldest starter in the AL East gets to enjoy the month of July off and be healthy in time for August through to the end.
Part of me thinks this too, that Pettitte would have tired out, even if for a brief period. Could be a blessing in disguise. I think what worries me more are the maniacs in the media that are going to spin this out of control.
Enter Wandy…get it done Cashman
God, no.
yeesh…OF ALL the names out there … you picked the worst possible one.
Well there’s Garza, Hamels, and Greinke available, get one of them C-$$$
God, yes.
Why not get them all? Who knows who’ll go down next?
My guess is Phil and Nova start sucking terribly again. So you make a good point.
START JOBA
Stop playing with my emotions.
Phelps showed he’s passable. Certainly an acceptable #4 or #5 option. With Sweaty Freddie around, it’s just a matter of getting by 2 or 3 starts till CC gets back. I don’t have high hopes for Warren or Mitchell, especially since both have had more than a few hiccups at AAA this year…but it’s only 2 or 3 starts.
Warren has been pitching very well lately. Is Phelps even stretched out to start right now?
I got faith in Adam Warren. I think this start on Friday could just what he needs. Think about it, he pitched well in spring training and almost made the team as a long man. It was probably pretty deflating for Warren when he didn’t make the team. I think that may have effected him a bit so far in Triple-A. Him starting for us could get him going this year and get him back in a good grove.
Stretch Joba out.
Enter Grienke? It would be a good audition to see if he can “handle” NY.
I don’t want Cashman to make a reaction trade because Andy’s out. CC misses two starts. That’s not the end of the world. Give some of the kids a shot, see what happens.
If Cashman makes a deal now he is going to get absolutely jammed by other GM’s because they think he will be desperate.
YOu cant send rookies out against the Red Sox and Blue Jays. They will get eaten ALIVE
I didn’t realize there were zombies on the 40 man for the Sox and Jays.
They switched from beer and chicken to bath salts up there.
Blue Jays have lost more starters, so they got rookies in the rotation or 150 year old Moyer. I’m okay with matching our rookies versus their rookies.
Cashman won’t make a reaction trade. He may be more open to making a trade now instead of standing pat, but I think he’s proven over the past few years that if the price isn’t right, he just won’t deal.
Seven pitchers are on the DL:
Joba, Rivera, Pineda, CC, Pettitte, Aardsma, and Manny. This team needs some arms.
Time to make use of those farm hands and trade them…Hamels or Lee anyone?
I’m sure Lee has a no trade clause in his contract. Clearly he wouldnt come to the Yankees as they are too old for him.
So by my calculations both Warren and Garcia would make 2 starts:
Wed, Jun 27 vs.Cleveland – Andy
Thu, Jun 28 vs. Chicago – Nova
Fri, Jun 29 vs. Chicago – Warren (for CC)
Sat, Jun 30 vs. Chicago – Kuroda
Sun, Jul 1 vs. Chicago – Hughes
Mon, Jul 2 @ Tampa – Garcia (for Andy)
Tue, Jul 3 @ Tampa – Nova
Wed, Jul 4 @ Tampa – Warren (for CC)
Fri, Jul 6 @ Boston – Kuroda
Sat, Jul 7 @ Boston – Hughes
Sat, Jul 7 @ Boston – Garcia (for Andy)
Sun, Jul 8 @ Boston – Nova
NYY has a 4.5 game lead currently with Baltimore still to play today (vs. Weaver) so could go up to 5, Tampa is losing and could fall to 6.5 back, Boston is up big and will stay at 6.5 back and Toronto will fall to 8.5 back. I think they will be OK until after the AS break.
Then CC comes back after the AS break and you can figure out Andy’s spot based on who is pitching well between Garcia, Warren, Mitchell, Phelps, etc…
All of this. The exact reason not to panic.
Yeah
Wait, Andy is out at least six weeks. I think he’s going to miss more starts than that.
I meant that we need both Warren and Garcia to fill in for the 2 starts both Andy and CC will miss before the ASB. My comment within my comment mentioned that after the ASB, CC should be back and then we just need to fill Andy’s spot with whoever is pitching well between Garcia, Warren, Mitchell, Phelps, etc…
Now I am okay with Warren joining with the big club.
DJ Mitchell and Tyota Igarashi should be with Yanks tomorrow. Then Warren will start this Friday. Igarashi will be optioned back and Farqurah will be DFA.
Jamie Moyer.
I’ll get my coat.
Girardi just said Warren and Freddy to the rotation.
Warren Friday
Freddy Monday
I hope they looking into Zack Grienke…He might be the best pitcher in the league this year.
No they don’t need a top pitcher. They need a middle pitcher. Someone who can be sevicable for six weeks.
Grienke can also be a long term move, seeing as Kuroda anf Andy are likely gone after this year
My guess is that you are about 23M$ wrong.
They will both be back next year (aka “The year of the MO” since the young guns haven’t proved that much in AAA.
if it comes to this the Yanks should buy low on Liriano who´s pitched well of late otherwise Phelps for Pettitte probably into mid-August and Warren for CC for 2-3 starts. Yanks say Pettitte is out 6 weeks but that doesn´t include possible setbacks or minor league rehab time.
If he’s being sold low, I’m in. Great high-upside gamble.
Buster Olney tweeted just that a few minutes ago.
“Wouldn’t shock me if NYY took a run at Francisco Liriano before July 31. If he doesn’t work out as a starter, could be used as set-up man.”
WOW beat me to it . I was thinking along the same lines.
Please no…
Francisco for the other Francisco…do it Cashman.
Ok, we might also need to throw in an Almonte, Pena and Warren (great contact Twins type arm).
he´s a FA after this season and hasn´t really done much until his last few starts. Yanks have been rumored to be looking at him but I don´t place much stock in it. I have no idea what the Twins would want in exchange. he could pitch in Pettitte´s place until he returns and for the remainder of the season pitch from the pen.
This would have been the perfect time to get Banuelos and Betances into the rotation. Too bad that neither is able to step in.
Yanks were all ready looking at trading for a pitcher before these injuries, and probably for reasons like this, injuries and possible regression from Hughes and Nova.. Now this just all but gurantees it, in my opinion..
I have a feeling Wandy Rodriguez will be in pinstripes… Just call it a hunch.. I know many here don’t care for em, but hes pitched well his entire career, and Kuroda has made the switch just fine, and is older then Rodriguez, just adds alittle evidence for Cashman to see.. Pretty sure Wandy always been decent in Inter League as well…
I hear you but his contract is a big impediment, esp since the team option becomes a player option if traded. Cashman’s been good at finding value recently, so my guess is he’d make another value move rather than pull the trigger on Wandy. that’s IF he makes a move at all, of course.
nope. Wandy is career wise 9-12 w/a 5.09 ERA in interleague play.
Shuan Marcum from the Brewers is another possibility. If they are shopping Greinke, they will probably be shopping Marcum
Is there any chance that they give Ramon Ortz a shot? I don’t want them to, but will they?
Garza ?
I wonder if we can pry Brandon McCarthy away from the A’s? He’d also be another really good replacement…
The only good thing is now some kids will get promotions in the minors with 2coming up, that means proably Zolio Almonte will get promoted to TRIPLE AAA along with a pitcher, and the trickle down effect..
NO he’s on the DL right now too.
McCarthy is, ey? I didn’t know that.. Take him off the list..lol I’m fine with Wandy Rodriguez myself.. Actually, is he on the DL? Because i haven’t heard about him in awhile?
The problem is so many teams are contending, so theres less teams willing to trade…
No way Zo plays 6A ball.
…let alone 9A ball.
I would trade for Zack or Cole only if we get a window to sign them. I think they would both help this year, but we’d need to keep them long term.
Cole definitely won’t sign an extension… he’ll test free agency. I don’t think Greinke or the Yankees would sign a deal before he had a chance to pitch in NY for awhile.
These are guys i could think of possiblities, but lik i said, i bet Wandy Rodriguez ends up in pinstripes..
Wandy Rodrigue
Francisco Liriano
Brandon McCarthy
Anibal Sanchez(i hope not)
Shawn Marcum
Bruce Chen
Ryan Dempster
Matt Garza
McCarthy is on the DL again so I´d cross him off the list. Wandy,Liriano seem to be the best bets.
Is Dempster on the DL, if not, couldn’t he be had for just money??
I like Marcum. He will be much cheaper than Greinke and he’s pitched in the AL East and all that good stuff.
Bruce Chen? Bruce Chen?! BRUCE CHEN?!!!
Just in case the Yankees need him for the one game wild card playoff.
Start Joba!!!
Liriano makes sense. Twins areen’t going anywhere and they need to restock their farm system. Pitchers like Garza, Greinke and Hamels will cost a ton, especially now that Yanks will be perceived as being desperate for a starter. Wandy is also possible (personally, I hope not)but Houston wants to unload the salary and Yanks can absorb it and perhaps not have to give up too much. Jeremy Guthrie (AL East tested) may also be an option.
And of course we are all not mentioning the effect Andy has had on Phil and Ivan. How will this affect them?
He’ll still be on the team, you know. He can still talk to them.
Not in Greg’s world. In Greg’s world they curl up in a ball, cry and lose the strike zone forever.
Phelps, Warren, Mitchell and Garcia should be able to spot start until the ASB. I definitely see a trade coming though. I’d take Liriano any day.
Time for the offense to improve with RISP, they’ll need all the runs they can get.
unless of course Garcia and Warren pitch well.
They’ve actually been starting to hit with RISP regualarly, especially in this past series
Yes, I noticed that and that’s great. I’m just hoping for more consistency, especially with the bases loaded.
Liriano in April: 0-3 with an 11.02 ERA
Liriano in May and June: 2-4 with a 3.60 ERA
OK what would it cost NY for Liriano ? Nunez and one other player ?
Yeah probably. We would eat all the money $5.5 million.
Marcum would probably cost a bit more because the Brewers are still somewhat in it.
Marcum is on the DL with elbow tightness.
SON OP A BITCH!
Everybody IS on the DL!
Our luck is so bad, even possible trade targets are already on the DL.
Marcum and McCarthy have both in the past and present spent ample time on the DL so it doesn´t surprise me.
to me Liriano and Wandy are the best bets all things considered.
Oh yeah, fuck you Casey Kotchman!
I will preface this by saying this. I would be willing to give Warren a chance with a start or two. But if he bombs, get on the phone.
Garcia against the Rays doesn’t scare me. The Rays suck on offense. Garcia against Boston is another story altogether.
NY is in the meantime stretching Phelps out so he should within 3 weeks be in the mix.
have you noticed that Boston sucks right now? I mean, it’s not that they can’t hit or score many many runs but the Rays are more annoying to us right now.
These are the same Rays who are 3 outs away from getting swept by the Royals.
Boston’s offense has been killing it lately.
Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!! This just sucks balls…..but hey, this team can fight thru this I know it.
I bet he can heal quicker if he prays, right?
There’s that or a little HGH.
Great point! He has a history of cheating. The Christians always do.
Dare I say Carl Pavano??Just kidding.
This is not a big deal. One of those weeks is the All-Star Break (pardon the pun).
He could be back in August. More rest for the old guy. It’s not bad.
I would expect more the beginning of September when you include rehab
That’s perfect. According to Axisa, only the September games count. Everything else is exhibition.
Yes it hurts to loseour first two starters to DL but you cannot panic and get a top starter. Makes no sense financially. One game at a time and continue the ride with our offense and BP. Time forFreddy to step up and all of our starters. We are not in third place for christ sakes!
I don’t see why everyone sees why they need to rush to make a trade. Pettitte will be towards the end of his recovery around the trade deadline. The Yankees have enough pitching depth at the moment to make it last until then. As of right now, all of the other SP’s have been doing pretty well so it might not be that necessary to find a frontline starter. If Garcia, Warren, Phelps, or Mitchell can provide enough to keep them in games, that is pretty much all you could ask for from your fifth starter. Once CC comes back, a rotation of CC, Kuroda, Nova, Hughes, and one of those four should be able to still win plently of games. There is way too much panicking.
You forget 2-3 extra weeks of rehab.
I guess it’s better they get injured now instead of September when it’s too late to get help.
Get out of my head, mom!
Best Case scenario: Warren begins to roll like Nova did when he was called up for the second time last year.
So he’s out until early-mid August. I hate everything.
Seriously though. He’s going to miss, what, eight starts? This might cost us the division.
Cash needs a short-term fix and a longer-term fix. They can try Phelps & Warren until they figure that part out and hope Ben Sheets is healthy and stretch him out because he only costs money and if he’s 80% of what he was he’ll help. I hope I’m wrong but Freddy…well, Freddy-
This doesn’t even bring the lack of Gardner’s presence into it. Curtis can’t steal bases because his legs have got to be exhausted and that changes his whole game. Nix isn’t a short-stop so Jeter’s playing way too many games while A-Rod gets his rest and still makes errors. On the days Jeter’s out why can’t Tex be @ 1st so he can save some errors. Sorry, I’m upset/annoyed w/all of it.
That’s funny. I could have sworn I saw Granderson steal a base today.
Off for cognitive tests . . . . .
Can we trade for Burnett but still let him pitch against the NL in Pittsburgh?
Only in a fantasy league.
Maybe let him wear a Pirates uniform, so he thinks he’s still pitching in the NL???
Brian Cash-man: make it rain
There’s really only one rational solution:
JOBA TO THE ROTATION!
No. The only rational solution is trading for Felix Hernandez.
I doubt Cashmen makes a move immediately. CC is only missing 2 starts so the Yankees are really only looking to replace Petite. I have to think between Warren, Phelps, Mitchell and Garcia, one of them will pitch acceptably as a 5th starter for 6 or 7 weeks. With the way Nova, Kuroda and Hughes have been pitching for the last 5 or 6 weeks, this should not be a big issue for the Yankees as long as Garcia and Warren dont get blown up. Its also possible that CC will be out longer and the Yankees are giving the best case scenario to keep teams from holding them hostage in a trade.
Wont they have to bring up DJ Mitchell as well? With Warren and Freddy both on the staff for at least a couple of weeks, the odds of needing a long man are pretty good. Freddy isnt stretched out and who knows what Warren willdo.
Remember when we had too much starting pitching?
I wish AJ were still here…
Most if not all Yankee fans sure don’t.
Time to kick the tires on Ryan Dempster once he comes off the DL?
At the risk of sounding cliché, he’s an effective innings eater (over 200 IP the last four yrs), and it’s pretty obvious he’s going to be moved.
He’d be like the rich man’s Chad Gaudin.
Mayday Mayday – Sergio Mitre to the rescue.
First, I look above and see someone else is using my name. That’s weak, I’m the TampaYankee with no space. Now that that’s out of the way.
Why is Warren getting the callup and not Phelps? Phelps played pretty well for us last time around and was the odd man out when Andy came back, so shouldn’t he get his spot back?
Because he didn’t pitch much when he was up with the Yankees, and he’s not stretched out to start. That’s why he’s down in A ball, building up his pitch counts.
Between Garcia, Warren, Phelps and Mitchell they should be able to survive 6 weeks given CC comes back after missing only a few starts.
I’d hate to have to trade for someone since the price probably just jumped up for the Yankees given their rash of injuries.
Seattle knew this would happen.
Let’s see what Warren, Phelps, Mitchell & Garcia can do. If any of those guys are successful, it would help on the road to $189M.
Heck, even Ramon Ortiz who has been pitching well in AAA is worth a look before giving up young players for guys that can leave as free agents. If the team had overreacted before Garcia would have been cut before and Hughes would be in the pen.
Patience is the key here. Not only will pitching cost more because everyone wants to hold up the Yankees, but a ton of teams have lost pitchers to injuries. And more teams are still in contention because of the expanded wildcard format. These things only inflates the prices for the few available pitchers even more (more demand and less supply).