Game 101 Spillover Thread

Update: Pettitte suffers setback during ankle rehab
Yanks come back against Red Sox (again), lose anyway (again)

The last thread is moving slowly, so let’s start a fresh one. Let’s go walk-off win.

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Update: Pettitte suffers setback during ankle rehab
Yanks come back against Red Sox (again), lose anyway (again)
  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    This working better?

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      The old one was working fine after about ten minutes, but we’ll see about this one.

  • MartinRanger

    Seriously when did Aceves learn to throw in the mid-90s?

    Granderson is actually all or nothing right now.

  • Dino Velvet

    listening to these announcers as the wring their hands over the red sox is sickening.

    • smurfy

      at least they don’t focus on the nasty Yankees these days, but, yeah, guessing the RS Nation needs some support, commercially, the network is interested. Look what’s happening to Philly.

  • Hummingbird S.

    one awful AB after another from Granderson..

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He just missed that one. I guess any at-bat that doesn’t result in a homer is awful.

      • The Troll

        Well . . . with Granderson that’s partially true. When he doesn’t homer he’s probably striking out . . .

        Jus’ sayin’, betch

      • Mike N

        Just barely got under it.

      • Hummingbird S.

        He took a hanging curve on the inside part of the plate and swung at a bunch of pitches that he couldnt hit. That qualifies as a bad AB.

    • MartinRanger

      He’s in a slump. It’s allowed. Annoying, but allowed.

  • captain kiwi

    ack. was hoping grandy would negate the need for a spillover thread. ah well.

  • Mike N

    Am I drunk, or did Curtis just hug the bat boy??

  • JonS

    I was so hoping we could walk-off on Aceves. For some reason, I hate him inexplicably.

  • Mr. Pink

    Sigh. Why did we let go of Aceves again? He sure would’ve looked nice in our pen or rotation. It might’ve been a small move but Aceves has saved our 20 games for Boston.

  • Ichy and Irok hello to number 28

    Dammed grandy no redemtion for you

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Roger Waters The Wall stage indent still in center field. Nice…

  • Ichy and Irok hello to number 28

    Tebow and sanchez struggle in camp
    Wow the Jets are going to be a giant
    Train wreck this year.

  • Mike N

    These fucking announcers so want the Red Socks to win, you can hear the desperation in their voices.

  • Mike Stanley

    First extra-inning game at home this year?

  • MartinRanger

    Throw strikes.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Has Phelps ever worked back to back days? Also he threw 33 pitches yesterday…so he’s probably only good for an inning. At least the rest of the bull pen should be good for an inning or so.

  • MartinRanger

    D-Rob I love you but NOT NOW.

  • Mike Stanley

    LOL @ not pinch running this guy

  • Mr. Pink

    I’m ready for a D-Rob implosion. In 3-2-1…

  • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

    wtf DRob

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    soo much awesomeness.

  • smurfy

    guess that was an effective no-bunt pitch.

    • smurfy

      it’s a moot point, whether he intended to bunt. He started, that’s all.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    that’s a foul tip. it hit the bat.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      or the hand on the bat.

  • MartinRanger

    That hit the bat. Not even close to the elbow.

  • Mike Stanley

    He WANTED to pull it back. But he didn’t.

    Strike.

  • Ichy and Irok hello to number 28

    Waaaaaaaa

  • Get Phelps Up

    Come on umps…eject Valentine and be done with this.

    • Get Phelps Up

      There you go.

  • smurfy

    Tino: “and all you see is a bunch of bodies.”

  • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

    Get the clown off the field already.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Boring ass game. Come on.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    I was told by an umpire when I was a kid that if the ball hits your hand while you’ve got it run up for a bunt it’s part of the bat, and therefore is a foul ball and not a HBP.

    • RkyMtnYank

      Exactly!!!! He never moved the bat back until the ball hit his hand. That was the correct call imo despite the NSPN shit!

    • captain kiwi

      yeah. i have no idea why the booth keeps crying for the sox. “oh, just another thing not going the sox way.” fuck.

  • Mr. Pink

    I hate Bobby V’s face. He looks like a beedy eyed pedophile. Also for once can you not fucking put the whole opposing team on base D-Rob!

  • Mike N

    DAMN!

  • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

    Just knew that fucking scrub would beat them.

  • Cy Pettitte

    breaking news: choking losers lose again.

  • MartinRanger

    KILL ME

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    D-Rob has no command, go to the pen plz

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    …are you fucking serious?

  • Hummingbird S.

    excellent choke job by Robertson..

  • Maurice

    Josh Beckett wanted to get ejected so he could eat some fried chicken

    • RkyMtnYank

      It was Beer:30

  • Andy

    This giraffe of a baseball player has to stop beating us

  • The Troll

    That was . . . extremely predictable.

  • MartinRanger

    I’m not feeling the walkoff. Mostly because I’m too angry about Pedro fricking Ciriaco.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Pedro Ciriaco can die in a fire.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Choke!!!!

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    I really enjoyed the part where DRob walked Saltalamacchia.

    • Cy Pettitte

      for me that was a close second to giving up the game winning hit to the immortal Pedro Ciriaco, he of the career .299 OBP in the minors

  • Brian S.

    Fuck Robertson.

  • Ichy and Irok hello to number 28

    Need a bloop and a blast

  • Matty Ice

    Fuck Pedro Ciraco. At least we won’t have to see him in the playoffs.

    Let’s go boys, walk off here.

  • Widget

    facepalm. what a weird two games. Frustrating to come back only to watch them lose to the power or PEDRO CIRIACO!!!!!!!!!

    I can’t wait for the local boston media to talk about how Valentine’s ejection spurned them to victory.

    • Mike Stanley

      You really don’t know the Boston media very well.

  • Mr. Pink

    This is what happens when D-Rob doesn’t somehow wiggle out of jams. The gimmick is done with. He has to learn how not to always make things interesting if he’s going to continue to be the 8th inning guy.

    • MartinRanger

      Robertson has 15 walks and a .207 BAA. He’s doing just fine.

      Teix that was pathetic.

  • overratedsoriano

    pls gucking hit a homerun and not make this any close in the bottom of the 9th.

  • Tom

    0-2 pitch to Middlebrooks was the killer. That guy will swing at anything, at 0-2 that pitch should have been nowhere close to the strikezone.

    Hopefully the Yankees can get that run back.

    • Brian S.

      Also where was Chavez? He was acting like the third base coach.

      • Tom

        No double defense…

        Not sure if I agree with that with RObertson on the mound – folks don’t generally turn on him.

  • Anthony

    It really is unexplainable how this Ciriaco kid does so well.

  • Athenian

    Can’t pitch the “8th inning guy” in the 10th and expect to win. DRob the walk machine.

  • wow

    just wow at this team right now.

  • Karl Krawfid

    Hey this could be yet another 1 run loss!

  • Billy

    Trade D-Rob, Granderson and Hughes for J.Upton and D.Hudson. Chokers have no place on this team.

    • Get Phelps Up

      D. Hudson? You mean the guy who just had TJS?

      • FIPster Doofus

        Pretty sure his ERA was around 7 before then, too.

        • Billy

          guy had 16 wins last season he is clutch

          • FIPster Doofus

            So clutch with that 7 ERA in the mighty NL West. It’s moot anyway since he had TJS.

            • Billy

              Robertson is 1 and 4. Hudson showed that he is a beast

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      Throw in Cano. He’s a choker too. And Jeter. And ARod. Hell throw in the whole team. They’re all chokers.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Agreed. Just trade this roster for Arizona’s. It’ll work out beautifully.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Insanity.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    That fucking camera angle.

  • Mr. Pink

    Has Robertson completely abandoned his curveball? I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen him throw it. Lately he’s been all fastball and cutter.

  • Maurice

    What kinda fucking fans are those? Take the fucking ball from him

  • Brian S.

    Fucking pussy ass fans catch that foul ball!

  • FIPster Doofus

    Knock the fucking ball out of his glove, you stupid fans.

  • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

    Somebody go punch those lame fans in the face.

  • Ichy and Irok hello to number 28

    Man we cant get a foul

  • Hummingbird S.

    weak stuff from the fans.. need to get that ball

    • Tom

      Like a Hail Mary… KNOCK IT DOWN!

  • Mr. Pink

    Way to give Sweeney a clear path Yankee fans. Wow.

  • The Real Greg

    Well, the Red Sox will now be loved by media again.

    Thanks alot Robertson. You could have buried them this weekend.

    • Bunt Gardner

      The offense scores two runs, but, yeah, blame Robertson.

      • Brian S.

        Well Robertson fucking choked. He did in fact do that.

      • Tom

        You have to tip your cap to the pitching… don’t let Doubront’s 4.5 ERA coming in fool you….

        /Greg’d

    • Widget

      No they won’t. Besides, they can get all they love they won’t, still doesn’t change they fact that they are in last place.

    • FIPster Doofus

      You care way too much about the media, man.

  • MartinRanger

    They are actually swinging for the short porch every single swing.

  • Billy

    Damn Teix aka Jessica Parker stop huffin and pufin hit the damn bal

  • Billy

    AND THIS GUY FEELS UNDERPAID AND WANTS A 10 YEAR DEAL?

  • Widget

    Why even bother Cano? Do you have something better to do?

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Cano goes 0-for the day his agent comes out and says he’s worth 10 years. I know one game means statistically nothing, but that is kind of funny.

  • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

    Ibanez now, right?

  • captain kiwi

    THAT is a hbp espn. you friggin’ idiots.

  • MartinRanger

    That’s what an HBP looks like. It actually hits the body, not the bat.

    Okay time to make them pay.

  • Hummingbird S.

    It’s amazing to me that the Yankees can’t retire a quad-A player like Ciriaco and lose games because of that

  • Athenian

    This team is playing like they did in May. Yuck. But game over. Blew a winnable series.

  • Mr. Pink

    Cano is going out of his element. Swinging and missing a whole lot more. Not going the other way. I miss 2010 Cano. Let him walk if he’s going to continue to have no plate discipline and try to pull everything. That’s not who he is.

    • MartinRanger

      Cano is having the best season of his career. By a long shot.

    • RkyMtnYank

      Cano goes through these cycles. As soon as he starts hitting well he starts swinging at everything until he’s slumping and becomes more selective again.

  • The Troll

    Worst few weeks of baseball I can remember in a long time.

  • Brian S.

    Come on Obanez you crazy whore!

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      I loled

  • MartinRanger

    I’m going to throw up. These last two games have been as bad as the Yankees have played all season.

  • Hummingbird S.

    straight FB in Ibanez happy zone and he doesnt swing… they are missing a bunch of fastballs right down the pipe

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Earl…not even hiding his bias.

    • Brian S.

      OMFG THAT WAS A STRIKE ARGHHHHH

    • RkyMtnYank

      It’s a NESPN broadcast.

  • Billy

    Cano + Sanchez for Upton

    • Bunt Gardner

      You’re really reaching now.

    • MartinRanger

      I’m really glad you aren’t the general manager.

    • captain kiwi

  • Karl Krawfid

    What a massive choke job by this team man.

  • Billy

    ESPN guys about to cream their pants

  • Brian S.

    All this stress is making my right testicle sore.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Stop tugging on it.

  • Anthony

    So ironic that Martin is carrying the offense tonight. Where is everyone?????

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    I’ve started my “How many times are they going to say this game has turned the season around?” count. I’m already at 1, and the game isn’t even technically over yet.

    • Widget

      Red Sox have had about 35 of those games this season. Still waiting.

  • FIPster Doofus

    Fuck.

  • MartinRanger

    Well that sucked.

    Show up in the Orioles series, boys.

  • Brian S.

    This team fucking chokes. Cashman needs to get Headley.

    • RkyMtnYank

      What problems will that solve? Headley it way overrated!

      • Brian S.

        140 wRC+ on the road this year. Also a great defender that won’t let a weak groundball get past him in the tenth inning.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Sure. That solves everything.

    • FIPster Doofus

      With you on Headley. Love that dude.

    • DT

      Yes he will solve all our problems!

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      .223 with RISP

      he’ll fit right in

  • Cy Pettitte

    way to play down to a .500 teams level. this should have been an easy sweep but nope.

  • Anthony

    Pump that fist Aceves, you now own a .500 record.

    • Hummingbird S.

      No need to hate on Ace. He pitched 2.1 innings for the win. He’s a great pitcher that the Yankees could really use right now (stupid decision to let him go)

      • Anthony

        Not hating, just thought it was a tad too showy.

  • Hummingbird S.

    This team needs to get back to winning and playing good baseball soon. This has been a horrible stretch.

  • Maurice

    on the bright side, boston still won’t make the postseason. the streak will go to 3

    • Maurice

      *drought

      • overratedsoriano

        even if we make it, we will win nothing against good pitching…looking forward to a loss to the angels in the division series.

        Give red sox some credit, they have scored as many runs/ game as yanks with all the injury, if their starters start playing like they care, they sure would be as good as us.

        • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

          How many good pitchers have the Yankees beaten this year?
          A ton.

  • The Real Greg

    I told you guys ESPN and Joe Buck and MLB NEtwork will go crazy for them.

    Well done Yankees. You could have buried them and you failed.

    • MartinRanger

      The Red Sox have been buried for a while. Don’t kid yourself.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Why are you so obsessed with what the media thinks of Boston?

      • The Real Greg

        Because they will be speaking all over trashing my baseball team. Makes me feel like a loser.

        • Bunt Gardner

          Don’t tie your self-worth to what the Yankees do or don’t do.

    • DT

      Even with the win they are still in last place.

      • The Real Greg

        But no one will say that. Joe Buck won’t say that. ESPN will not mention that. MLB Network might not even say that.

    • Widget

      LAST PLACE. Let me repeat that. LAST PLACE.

      The media can go crazy for them all they want. It doesn’t change their record. They suck. Suck pretty bad actually. But I guess wins don’t count in the Greg Baseball Association.

      • The Real Greg

        So will ESPN come out and say “The Red Sox won tonight but they are still last place”

        NO. They wont say that.

    • forensic

      Greg, I really think you need to seek some serious help.

      The Real Greg says:

      July 29, 2012 at 10:52 pm

      Guys they are 8 games ahead in the division.

      STOP BITCHING!

      • The Real Greg

        That was before the Yankees came back and like the mob “pulled me back in”

      • The Real Greg

        Plus the loss didn’t really bother me, so much as the reaction by the media. It makes me feel bad.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    sigh…all well. That was a ball buster, but still we have a sizable division lead, I have the utmost confidence in this team to win the division. Especially with some moves at the deadline.

    • The Real Greg

      No Raul.

      I’m pissed. How I can I trust this team to win a division when they can’t even beat the last place team AT HOME?

      You saw what Joe Buck said yesterday about comparing them to the Cardinals. Now ESPN and MLB Network will join the run for the miracle.

      • Bunt Gardner

        You realize ESPN doesn’t control who wins the division, right? This isn’t NCAA football rankings.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Greg, let me let you in on a little secret:

        IT MAKES NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE WHAT THE MSM SAYS ABOUT YOU IN SPORTS!!!!!!!
        This isn’t politics where you need public opinion behind you to win. It makes no difference what the media says about the Red Sox. They are still a .500 team with a great offense and a pretty bad pitching staff that caught us while we are ice cold. Before the game yesterday they literally had a 1% chance of winning the division and a 26% chance of making the wildcard. Who gives a fuck what the media says, they are still a not great team.

  • Get Phelps Up

    Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco. Fuck Pedro Ciriaco.

    Need I go on?

    • Anthony

      Nope. A well established narrative.

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        I enjoyed the prose style. He made good use of his vocabulary as well.

        Overall a fine piece of writing. I approve.

  • captain kiwi

    i want to punch ciriaco back to a normal neck length. god i hate that guy.

  • Mr. Pink

    A walk off would’ve been great but given the shitty way they’ve been playing it seems like the world to ask for. Beaten inexplicably by Felix Doubront and Pedro Ciriaco again. If I had a dollar for everytime they Yankees let themselves get beat by scrubs I’d have a yacht. Also why the fuck did Cashman let Aceves go? He’s fucking awesome and was huge for us in 08-09. Then a little back issue and bam he’s helping our rivals win games.

    • Widget

      He’s blown a chunk of saves this year. He’s not awesome and the Yankees haven’t missed him at all.

  • overratedsoriano

    It is hard to see how this team will beat a good pitching team in the post season. Just home runs and bucket loads of inconsistency wont get us anywhere. The red sox team is much better than us…if their two starters start showing up we are toast.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Oh, great, trot out that tired old story.

    • Mr. Pink

      Seriously. They are a top 5 offense and they haven’t even had all their starting hitters together in a lineup at all. Lester seems to be finding his groove. They are trade for a pitcher and one winning streak/Yankees losing streak away from playoff/AL East contention.

      • Widget

        Now they aren’t. Lester has yet to find his groove. And they have the 4th worst record in the AL. They are what their record says they are.

        • The Real Greg

          Then why won’t the media MENTION their record?

          • Get Phelps Up

            Because the vast majority of members of the media are idiots.

          • Bunt Gardner

            They made mention of it several times tonight, Greg.

          • Widget

            Because that doesn’t make for a good story now does it? Seriously, are you like 15?

            • The Real Greg

              I prefer to follow the Edward R. Murrow school of journalism, thank you.

    • Get Phelps Up

      You are an idiot sir.

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      holy shit the insanity really comes out when Yankees lose to the Red Sox.

  • stuart a

    I know why they got Ichiro. his clutchness fits right in line with the rest of the crew.

    Cano play tonight? His AB’s were pathetic……

    another bad loss on a game they should have won.

    their offense is very avg. robertson with a leadoff walk comes back to haunt him .walking saltalammachia is hard to do. 4 pitches not even close.

    back to back games they blew……granderson botched a routine play and robertson did not do his job………….

    offense is in a coma…. hard to watch this offense… day in and day out they are so unclutch it is hard to fathom…………

    • Get Phelps Up

      The offense will improve now that ARod is out and unable to drag it down.

  • DT

    Oh no the sky is falling.

  • Kevin

    Worst two losses of the season by far. Yesterday and today we tied it and for what?!
    THis team is going NOWHERE in the playoffs,NOWHERE!

    • Brian S.

      Tigers upgrade. Angels upgrade. White Sox upgrade. The Yankees need a god damn upgrade.

      • Widget

        Liriano is not an upgrade.

        • Maurice

          Youkilis is

      • DT

        Tiger “upgrade” because they are second in their division (infante suck btw, and Sanchez is an average starer), same with Angel. Lirano is terrible, so he’s not an upgrade. The Yanks are on top of the division looking down despite injuries.

      • Get Phelps Up

        The Yankees upgrades are Alex Rodriguez, Joba Chamberlain and Andy Pettitte.

        • King George

          +100000

      • The Troll

        So true.

      • Mr. Pink

        Cash is afraid of trading unproven prospects for an impact player. Fuck him. He’ll just turn around and trade them later on for a pitcher with a bad shoulder. He didn’t want to include Nunez, the scrubby of the scrubbiest players, and that cost us Cliff Lee. Now where is Nunez? Banished to AAA! I really feel like the Yankee brass is too content with being first place and having the best record and all. That stuff is nice and all. But it’s obvious that this team has second glaring holes. We could use a starting pitcher, 3rd baseman, and maybe a GOOD bullpen arm.

        • Get Phelps Up

          We could use a starting pitcher, 3rd baseman, and maybe a GOOD bullpen arm.

          Andy Pettitte, Alex Rodriguez and Joba Chamberlain.

          • Mr. Pink

            All those guys are injured. Also Joba sucks. If I wanted a reliever who can walk the bases loaded I’d rather have Kyle Farnsworth.

            • Get Phelps Up

              I guess nobody has ever accused you of being smart, huh?

        • Brian S.

          Cincinnati and Washington have the best records in baseball now.

    • DT

      They showed they can come back in games that look lost. Plus 2 games is not indicative how they’ll preform in the play offs since the two losses were due to some really shitty breaks.

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      Holy overreaction. Go root for the Red Sox.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Well, since you capitalized “nowhere”….

  • Billy

    At this point if you the GM you gotta think outside the box. Team is really struggling. If I were Cash I would get Posada out of retirment and stick him at C. Real clutch hitter. Step 2 is to trade Cano (OVERATED) for a good closer who will get the job done until Mo is out.

    • Brian S.

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    • DT

      A rational reaction after losing a close series to the sox.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Set the Jim Beam down, Billy.

  • wow

    I really hope something is done about our offense at the deadline. I don’t see how you expect to win consistently with this lineup.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Can we at the very, very least admit that the Yankees are not playing well?

    Sometimes I think the “optimistic” posters bend over backwards to try and avoid saying that we’re playing bad.

    We are. It’s not a big deal yet, but if we keep playing like this eventually it’ll be a problem.

    Will we keep playing like this? Probably not. But I’m tired pretending that everything is still chipper. We’re not scoring a lot (yes, yes, one ten run game aside), our bullpen hasn’t been able to shut teams down lately, we got swept by Oakland, lost two of three to the Red Sox, and BARELY pulled 2 of 3 from awful Seattle.

    Everything isn’t great right now, and yeah, I’m getting a LITTLE concerned.

    • captain kiwi

      i think we all agree the yanks are not playing well right now, but… it’s right now. the way some of these people are going off, you’d think that we’re in not in 1st the al east. 3-7 over the last 10 sucks, HARD, but it’s no reason for concern just yet. or at least, THIS much concern. seriously, someone suggested cano for upton.

      • captain kiwi

        we’re not in 1st*

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Cano for Upton is one of those trade suggestions that sucks so much that you really can’t do much but laugh at it.

    • Bunt Gardner

      Sure, they’ve not been playing well for a few games. Every team goes through these period throughout the year. However, the overreaction on this board the past two days has gotten ridiculous. I think that is what “optimistic” posters are combating. They are still in first with a healthy lead, so why not remain optimistic?

      • Tom Q

        I’m not even sure “not playing well” is the right phrase, unless you equate all losing to not playing well. The Yankees have continued to get mostly strong starting pitching; they’ve come back late in a number of games; they’ve just lost an inordinate number of close ones (including, what — five one-run games?). I’d view that as more ill luck that not playing well…and something that was probably inevitable after that month or so when it seemed like they couldn’t lose.

        • Bunt Gardner

          Oh, sure, I would go along with that. I wasn’t really comfortable throwing out “not playing well” to begin with.

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Sure. But yesterday there was a big debate on whether or not the Yankees were sliding or not.

        I don’t really care about yesterday’s debate so much specifically, there was nothing too interesting about it. But is it safe to say that yeah, we’re sliding? I don’t think that statement is really a stretch at this point now.

        • Bunt Gardner

          A slide, rough patch, bump in the schedule, etc…to me, it really doesn’t matter how you phrase it. I don’t think it’s permanent or anything to be stressed over at this point.

  • teddy

    giradri needs to go f himself, no reason to pull soriano. giradri didn’t play to win

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      and if Soriano stayed in and gave up a run, you’d be here saying:

      giradri needs to go f himself, robertson should have been pitching. giradri didn’t play to win

    • DT

      Robertson was screwed over by a seeing eye grounder and a bloop hit…

  • Karl Krawfid

    Where the hell is the A-Rod hater at?

  • MartinRanger

    It’s nice to have an eight game lead in the loss column.

    Where this team goes in the playoffs is entirely dependent on whether they play well in October. They aren’t playing well now. It happens.

  • MartinRanger

    The Red Sox will go back to being battered by the Tigers, and the Yanks will beat the Orioles.

    And all will be right with the world.

    I’m still f*cking pissed, but seriously.

    • Brian S.

      The Tigers layed down for them in Fenway earlier this year. I’m not so sure.

      • Widget

        Greg stop posting twice.

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Now the other end of the spectrum:

    Would everybody care this much if the team wasn’t the Red Sox? I highly doubt it. In the end, a last place team took two of 3 from a first place team. But at the end of the day a last place team took 2 of 3 from a first place team. The Red Sox are still in no position to make any sort of run, the Yankees are still far in first place, and the odds are we’re going to start playing a lot better very quickly.

    So the ultra-negatives need to get a grip too. We’re still in very good position.

    • DT

      People forget the Sox have a good offense despite their pitching. The Yankees also were able come back twice versus their good pen.

    • Rocky Road Redemption

      I repeated one sentence twice. Let’s just assume it’s for emphasis.

    • Brian S.

      The Red Sox are four games out of a Wild Card. One of the Angels/Rangers will surely be one of the teams in the WC game but they are good enough to beat out Chicago/Tampa/Detroit/Oakland/Toronto for the last spot.

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Any sort of run on US. I don’t really give a shit which team makes the 2nd wild card.

      • Widget

        Oakland swept them and swept the Yankees. Oakland is good and way better than the red sox.

    • Evan3457

      And not even a real “last place team”; a .500 last place team. And an arch-rival. Playing for their lives now.

  • pistol pete

    Our offense sucks. Girardi needs to adjust the lineup. He needs to move Ichiro to the 1 hole followed by Jeter Cano Tex and Grandy. It makes the lineup longer and eliminates the lefty in front of your no 3 hitter that makes for an easy switch to the leftys late in games. I’d rather have Cano vs the lefty’s late instead of Granderson even though Cano hasn’t had a great year vs leftys career wise he’s far better than Grandy. We need power in the 5 hole and Grandy would be perfect. Six thru 9 would be Swish Ibanez martin and Nix. He’s got to do something to balance out the lineup without ARod.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Good idea, give the 11th best hitter on the roster the most at-bats. Put Ichiro in the leadoff spot and they’ll score even fewer runs, or did you miss the three times he made the final out of the inning with men on base tonight?

      • pistol pete

        Ichiro would get invigorted and add speed at the top of the order. We’ve got to find a way to get Grandy out of the 2 hole hitting only 250 and a liability late in games vs leftys and get Cano to the 3 hole and leave him there instead of jerking our best hitter around the lineup everyday. Grandy is a power hitter with speed and would be awesome at No 5.

        • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

          Ichiro at the top of the order doesn’t help unless he can figure out a way to steal first.
          Ichiro is an awful hitter at this point of his career. He’s hitting where he should be – though ideally he wouldn’t be hitting at all vs. LHP.
          Cano is by far their best hitter. They should arrange the lineup so he has people in front of him who get on base alot. Batting Ichiro first with Cano third means Cano is going to come up with the bases empty an awful lot.

  • Billy

    Philly is having a fire sale. I think we can trade them Cano and Roberson for Utley and Papelbon. Utley is a proven CLUTCH hitter and Papelbon showed tht he can get it done on the big stage. Philly gets a 2b with a serius attitude problem but they already have a douche on thier team named C.Lee so maybe they can be friends. And I think Robertson is very cheap so thats a bonus for them

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Please just can it. I’m getting dumber reading your comments.

      • Get Phelps Up

        You can make it so nobody reads another one of his comments ever again.

    • Brian S.

      This is so bad I don’t think it’s serious. Please be a troll.

      • Tom Q

        he sad part is, so many people are Chicken-Littlel-ing it, saying such idiotically alarmist stuff, that satire is hard to distinguish.

    • pistol pete

      Are you fuckin crazy, trading Cano for a broken down Utley. At first I thought your post was a joke but I guess you are serious. but nuts.

    • Hall and Nokes

      You’ve sunk to a new low, Mr. Amaro.

  • Targetbuilder

    That was f$#@in’ pathetic!!! These guys can’t buy a base hit when they need it!! In batting practice, instead of putting a “show” on for the fans and knocking the ball out of the park, they need to practice how to hit line drive base hits for average!! Then maybe they wouldn’t leave 9 or 10 runners stranded in scoring position every f$#@in’ night!!

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      They hit .286 with RISP in today’s game, and stranded exactly 4 runners in scoring position. But 4 is almost 9 or 10.

    • Evan3457

      I thought Russell Martin got a base hit when they really needed it, “to the wonderment of all”.

  • stuart a

    the yanks need hitting not pitching. they need to make a big move which there is no chance they will make. they need justin upton… they need some youth, some speed, something new.

    no chance they will make a big move. they will send out the senior citizen all for nothing hitters. they will live or die via the homerun and there is a high probability they will die in the playoffs with this 1 dimensional team. we are talking the 2nd from the bottom hitting with RISP, that is a formula for failure……

    arod, ichiro, cano, swisher, they all suck with RISP. Tex has been better lately but not exactly Hack WIlson……

    Kuroda will feel at home since he pitch for the low scoring DOdgers for 4 years…. Glad nespn is happy with the sux win. man you think the middlebrooks call was the worse call of all time and a no doubter… I thought he did not get his bat out of the way but I guess I am delusional……

    robertson just to wild to be a lock down guy. lives on the high wire by striking everyone out a long term bad formula……..

    ciriaco hitting 500 + against them, that is a joke………

    • Get Phelps Up

      The offense is going to improve now that ARod is out and unable to drag it down.

      • Brian S.

        Yes. Because Ike Davis has more RBI’s.

    • Evan3457

      Yeah, it’s not like he did a superb job as the 8th inning guy last year.

      Oh, wait.

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Watching the highlights on ESPN…”Russel Martin got all kinds of swag” when the fuck did sports casting turn into listening to a 12yo talk about sports?

    • H.Reynolds

      wats wrong wit #$wagggg?

    • JohnnyC

      Boom goes the dynamite!

    • Widget

      That’s about right for their demographic. The E stands for Entertainment. They could care less about sports.

  • pistol pete

    Need to make a move at the deadline, need a bat, call Philly again about Wiggington they’re out 12 1/2 in the WC and even though Polonco is hurt they might move him he’s useless to them the next 2 mos and a free agent at the end of the year.

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      Wigginton sucks. Get somebody better.

      • pistol pete

        There isn’t any better rentals out there with teams that are out of it with players in their last year. He’s our best bet to fill in for ARod even though he’s no savior.

        • Brian S.

          Nix>Wiggington

        • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

          No point in making a move just to make a move. If they can’t upgrade 3B, they can upgrade DH/OF.

    • Brian S.

      Wiggington is awful and Polanco can’t hit. Jayson Nix is a better option than those two.

  • stuart a

    ichiro hitting 160 or so with RISP, man that is hard for a guy who does not strike out……………WOW

  • stuart a

    wigginton sucks. they need a bigger and bolder move then that.

    wigginton is a bad fielding Chavez….bad idea…they need a guy who is under 30, can move, and has upside…….

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      they need Arod

      • Get Phelps Up

        They need to trade for Ike Davis.

      • Brian S.

        BUT RBIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rocky Road Redemption

    Hey, I’m now watching “Friends”. Anybody keeping up with the “This game has turned the season around!” count?

    • Bunt Gardner

      What channel is Friends on?

      • Kramerica Industries

        It’s on Nick right now, at least where I am.

        Wait a sec, why the fuck are we all watching that show? The only thing it does for me is grind my snarkiness into a knife sharp enough to tear through steak.

        • Rocky Road Redemption

          On a personal note, I actually disagree with more or less everything it implicitly seems to support. I just think it’s funny.

          • Kramerica Industries

            Fair enough.

            Kramer and S1-5 Chandler are two of my biggest influences I have ever watched. Hilarity.

            Other than that, I never have, and never will, understand the female POV’s on the show. Then again, that’s because I’m a male supremacist by nature.

            • Rocky Road Redemption

              Seinfeld is the second best sitcom of all time, beaten only by I Love Lucy.

              • Kramerica Industries

                I could watch Seinfeld and Frasier all day long.

                As it is, I’ve lately been watching those two for three hours between 2:00-5:00 AM. I Love Lucy actually comes on after that (on Hallmark), I just have never gotten into it.

                Not sure why that is. I’m not afraid to indulge in sitcoms that are well-received. That’s how I got so sucked into Seinfeld in the first place.

                • Rocky Road Redemption

                  I watch it at around 10:30 on I believe TVland.

                  Desi Arnaz is an awesome actor. And the dude who plays Fred is a terrible actor, but it works because as a character he’s great. The show’s writers were superb.

                  As for Seinfeld, IMO literally the ONLY bad episodes were the finale series. Every single other episode was gold. My personal favorite is “The Pitch”.

                  • Kramerica Industries

                    Season four was loaded.

                    Seasons seven and nine, especially nine, I could’ve done without. Just wasn’t the same show, really, after Elaine’s hair was redone. Almost like a line of demarcation.

                    But that’s all relative. Seinfeld’s worst episodes were better than many other show’s best episodes.

        • Bunt Gardner

          It’s become my go-to “white noise” program.

          • Rocky Road Redemption

            Yah, that pretty much sums it up for me.

      • Rocky Road Redemption

        Nickelodeon.

        • Kramerica Industries

          Since we’re on the topic, first five seasons >>>>>>>> and maybe > the last five seasons.

          Fortunately, the first five have been on in recent weeks. IMO, character development yielded some horrific results by the end of the series.

          • Rocky Road Redemption

            I never watched it too often, so I can’t really say. It’s a funny show, I didn’t watch it enough to really make much of a distinction between the better and worse seasons.

            • Kramerica Industries

              Well, what I said there isn’t exactly an unpopular opinion, given what I’ve heard and read elsewhere.

              It is an unpopular opinion of mine that the linking of Monica and Chandler was bad for the show. Chandler’s fantastic wit was lost to history shortly thereafter. And even in episodes that generally dislike, I would watch just to listen to him.

              No homo or anything. I just find Matthew Perry and the character of Chandler to be fan-fucking-tastic. Better than anyone else on the show, actor or character.

  • Will

    I see it’s attack of the Steve Karsay brigade tonight (meaning, rose-colored late-90s glasses that retroactively inflate the abilities of crappy players on previous WS-winning Yankee teams…see also Brosiusians).

  • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

    Ok so the Yankees aren’t winning at a .700 pace anymore, any logical fan knew this was going to happen and we were going to regress a bit. Does it kind of sting a bit that it was/is against a red hot Athletic group(that we thought was terrible), and the Sox? Absolutely. But let’s get real. We are not a terrible team. We still have the best record in the AL, with a top end rotation and line up. Could the line up use an upgrade? Sure. Does it desperately need one because otherwise we are guaranteed to loose in the playoffs otherwise. No, you can’t know that, neither could I. As of right now we have as good of a chance as anybody to win the World series.

    • wow

      The pitching, yeah that’s a strength right now. I’m not worried about that. Bullpen, fine I guess. But to say we have as good a chance as any other team at winning the WS? I wouldn’t say that when we’re running Ibañez, Jones, Nix, Stewart, Martin, and Chavez out there consistently. These days there’s usually a big drop in production after the cleanup spot. That should change with Swisher back, but you can’t even count on Ibañez or Jones anymore. At that point it only takes one of your 1-5 hitters to start slumping/scuffling to get you in real trouble, especially in a short series.

      It’s not like they need a blockbuster trade for a bat or anything, but a nice offensive pickup would go a long way on a team that’s always waiting for that big home run to come.

      • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying we shouldn’t upgrade the team should the opportunity present itself. I love Chase Headley and Justin Upton, both are guys you gut your system for, but it looks like the Yankees aren’t willing to do that and any other move is under the radar so we’re just going to have to deal.

  • Brian S.

    But seriously, I think we need to trade Robertson after the season. This has nothing to do with his performance today but look at what Mike Adams got (two B prospects). Robertson could get more than that because he is younger and better.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He got traded for two pitching prospects that have since blown out their elbows. The goal is to win at the MLB level, not Double-A.

      • Brian S.

        I said Robertson could get more than that! So…two good pitching prospects with only one of them blowing out their elbows!

      • forensic

        Montero for Pineda and Campos? Trading for two pitchers who have blown out a shoulder and elbow (not quite blown out but might as well have been since he lost nearly the whole year).

  • Targetbuilder

    Again, that was f$#@in’ pathetic!!! These guys can’t buy a base hit when they need it!! In batting practice, instead of putting a “show” on for the fans and knocking the ball out of the park, they need to practice how to hit line drive base hits for average!! Then maybe they wouldn’t leave 9 or 10 runners stranded in scoring position every f$#@in’ night!! Do you know why a team like Oakland has been so successful lately?? It’s because they hit for average and therefore don’t leave alot of runners in scoring position. Living in the Bay Area and having a significant other who is an A’s fan, I see their games every day and it’s refreshing to watch!! I just wish that the Yankees would stop making the excuse of “a home run hitting team is what we are” and learn how to score runs (or manufacture them) in other ways!! What happened to the running game?? Just because Gardner isn’t their, we have others who can steal bases in the line up!!!

    • Brian S.

      It’s hilarious that you bring up Oakland’s batting average because earlier this season they were in the running for THE LOWEST TEAM BATTING AVERAGE OF ALL TIME. I’m talking in the history of baseball. They have since improved to a .232 average, which is only third worst in all of baseball (one point ahead of the Mariners and Rays).

      • Targetbuilder

        I said nothing about their batting average!! I said that they HIT FOR AVERAGE (IN OTHER WORDS GETTING CLUTCH BASE HITS AND NOT SWINGING FOR THE FENCES OR STRIKING OUT EVERY TIME UP). AND THEY SEEM TO BE DRIVING IN ALOT OF RUNS THAT WAY!! Just look at last weekend when we played them in Oakland!! Went to the Friday night game and the Yankees didn’t get on the board untill the 8th inning via 2 SOLO home runs. The A’s came back with a walk off in the 9th by playing team ball and getting clutch hits!!!!!

        • Brian S.

          The A’s tied the game against Soriano because of a home run. Which means they can’t win in the playoffs or something.

          • Targetbuilder

            That was Sunday’s game, not Friday’s!! And there is another problem!! Soriano chokes when the game is on the line!! Has that looooooong moping face that says I would rather be anywhere else doing anything else but trying to help my team win the game!! Looks like he has no interest in being there (NO FIRE)!!!

            • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

              God I really hope your trolling now. Soriano has blown 2 saves in like 30 chances. Saves are by definition a time when the game is on the line.

        • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

          I hope I’m not too late to the party but “I said nothing about their batting average, I said they hit for average.” What does that even mean? Getting clutch hits has nothing to do with batting average. Martin’s AVERAGE which you initially brought up is terrible, but he had two clutch hits for us tonight. He didn’t change his approach, it just happened that he made good contact.

  • stuart a

    arod has stunk this year. it is not really debateable…rbis do count even if you sabermetric lunatics do not think so.

    the problem is the yanks have many arods on the team. Arod means- cannot hit with RISP. The scary thing is arod si not the worse at hitting with RISP on the team .Cano is not good either, ichiro is horrible, swisher is horrible also especially late in a game and even when DP Jeter gets a hit usually is is a little ground ball single and the guy does not score anyways…

    this team is old, slow, and unclutch. cashman will not do it but trade; 3 or 4 pieces for Justin Upton .. send them nicky and 3 legit good prospects…..

    • Get Phelps Up

      I think it’s apparent that the offense will improve now that ARod is out and unable to drag it down.

    • Need Pitching (and maybe hitting too)

      everybody sucks
      Yankees need to hire stuart a as gm
      he is a genius, even if you sabermetric lunatics do not think so …
      they have too many above average hitters on this team
      thats why they dont score many runs
      they need more scrubs…

    • Evan3457

      Upton is a lifetime .257 with RISP. .321 in 2010, but .239 last year, when the D’backs were in the pennant race and he was an MVP candidate.

  • Widget

    I just checked the standings. Yep, Yankees are still in first by 8 games in the loss column. Red Sox did not make up those 8 games, despite what some of the idiots here think.

  • Kramerica Industries

    Words really can’t describe how pathetic that loss was.

    4-12 now since that magic 8/9/10 date. Think about that.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      What the hell are you talking about?

      • captain kiwi

        yankees record vs. sox @ home? just a guess.

      • Brian S.

        Record against Boston in the Stadium I think.

    • http://thecarsboneblog.tumblr.com Raul Ibanez AKA Tom Marvolo Riddle

      I’m pretty sure the Yankees have played more than 16 games since August 9th 2010.

      • JohnnyC

        I think he’s citing the Yankees’ record vs. Red Sox at YS since 8/9/2010.

        • Kramerica Industries

          You and Brian – correct.

          I apologize for beating a dead horse, but this is easily the most irritating thing I’ve noticed in recent years with this team.

          Yes, more irritating than RISP fail. Nothing worse, IMO, than being a .250 team in your home ballpark against your biggest rival.

          • Tom Q

            See, we’re different, then. Because, for me, missing the playoffs — that’s worse.

            • Kramerica Industries

              Well, they’ve made the playoffs 16 of the last 17 years. Then again, being a spoiled Yankees fan is all I’ve got. Lord knows the hockey and football teams I root for are perennially among the worst in their leagues, those teams being the Lightning and Bucs.

              That said, I do hold a soft spot for the NY Giants and Rangers, by trade of being a Yankees fan. I refuse to call myself a “fan”, though, and it’s unlikely I ever will be unless I move into the area at some point in the future.)

  • stuart a

    FITTING IN: Just like his new teammates, Ichiro Suzuki has failed with runners in scoring position all season. He entered Sunday hitting just .169 in 97 at-bats with RISP. In the second and the fourth, Ichiro came up with men on first and second and two outs. In the second, he meekly grounded out. In the fourth, he weakly popped out. In the eighth, with the game tied, two outs and a man on second, Ichiro lined out to left.

    Although Ichiro is not having a good year at the plate, you would think with his bat control he would be better in those situations. In his career, he has been very good in them — prior to Sunday, he had a .324 career RISP batting average

    per wally matthews…nespn…how can you hit so poorly with RISP and not strike out?

  • rogue

    Robertson sucked and other random thoughts…

    Sweeney doesn’t catch that ball in the old stadium. Current stadium has placed the brie and Chablis crowd at the field seats.

    Yes, Robertson sucked, but let’s look at the real reason for this loss. It’s the same reason the Yankees have gone 3-7 in their last 10. Their offense is overrated.

    • Pedroia MVP is Biggest Joke in History of Sports

      Couldn’t agree more. This offense does nothing if it isn’t hitting home runs. Don’t get me wrong, this gets them a good 95 wins every year, and it covers a lot of bad baseball that this team plays. But when they aren’t hitting home runs, the bad baseball comes back to bite them in the ass. When they get to the playoffs and score 3 runs a game again this year because they won’t hit as many home runs against good pitching (go figure!), maybe we’ll realize it’s time to start developing/going after some more players who add a different dimension to the offense besides just hitting homeruns and striking out.

      • Evan3457

        % of runs scored on home runs in post-season, goes UP slightly, not down. This is because good pitching suppresses home runs, but it suppresses long rallies more. Last post-season the number of runs scored on HR went from 34% in the regular season to 42% in the post-season.

        Yanks are below the league average in team K’s batting this year, just 35 more than Detroit or Texas, and 30 fewer than the White Sox and Red Sox, 90 fewer than the clutch A’s, 100 fewer than the smallball Rays.

        • Pedroia MVP is Biggest Joke in History of Sports

          Just out of curiosity, what is the % of runs scored on home runs in post season compared to regular season for the team that wins the world series? I don’t know, I’m actually curious. Because you might be making my point. To win the World Series, you need to score runs in many different ways because there aren’t as many home runs – generally because you’re facing better pitching. If the teams that don’t have success in the playoffs score more % of runs off of home runs that would mean they aren’t getting it done without hitting home runs – thus making my point. The Cardinals last year scored 70% of their playoff runs off of non-homeruns. I don’t know what their regular season percentage was, but their 30% of runs scored off of homeruns in the playoffs is 12 percentage points lower than the 2011 postseason average and 4 percentage points less than the mlb regular season average. That could mean they won because they score runs in multiple ways.

          Also, what are the numbers for the last 10 years? Just going by last year’s numbers, a small sample size, doesn’t necessarily prove your point. Especially last year where starting pitching wasn’t that great in the playoffs across the board, particularly for both world series teams – somewhat of an anomaly.

          I find it hard to believe that it’s the teams that rely on the home run in the playoffs that win championships. But if there are numbers that say otherwise I will happily eat crow.

          • Pedroia MVP is Biggest Joke in History of Sports

            On top of that, the San Francisco Giants scored 33.9% of their post season runs off of home-runs. Below the regular season and post season averages of 2011 – Again, I don’t have the 2010 numbers at my disposal, or what their regular season numbers were, but it would seem the team that wins the world series doesn’t rely on home runs