Orioles pound Nova as Yanks lose fourth straight


I suppose the good news is that the Yankees didn’t lose by one run. All those close losses were getting to be a little too infuriating. Instead they lost by six runs after blowing a five-run first inning lead. Hey, if you’re going to stink, you might as well go all out and get booed off the field.

(Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)

Remember A Friend

One of Ivan Nova‘s best friends on the team last year was A.J. Burnett, and apparently he’s decided to honor his traded friend by pitching just like him. Not the good Pirates version of Burnett, the bad version that polluted the Yankee Stadium mound for the last two years. After allowing a career-high nine runs in five innings to the Orioles — he said after the game that this start was a product of bad luck — Nova owns a 4.53 ERA (4.44 FIP) that is far too close to the 5.20 ERA (4.80 FIP) that A.J. posted from 2010-2011 for my liking. Ivan has allowed at least six runs for the third time in his last six starts and raised his July ERA to 5.97. June is the only month of the season in which he’s had a sub-5.00 ERA (1.26).

The worst part of it all is that all seven runs in that second inning scored with two outs. Nova had noted whiffed machine Mark Reynolds in an 0-2 hole with men on the corners and a chance to escape the inning unscathed when he hung a slider that was ripped just fair for a ground rule double. It just snowballed into a disaster inning from that. That “hung a slider” part was a common theme all night — Nova consistently made mistakes out over the plate…

Nova looks nothing like the pitcher we saw in the second half last season and really hasn’t for most of the season. He’s kinda lucky that Andy Pettitte is injured and David Phelps has been shoe-horned into a relief role — in part because the Yankees never bothered to add a non-matchup reliever over these last few weeks — because otherwise he’d be back in Triple-A. The trip to the minors did him a world of good last year, but now he’s got to figure it out at the big league level where the hitters are less forgiving. The sooner Nova stops pitching like crap, the better.

Cheap Suit

The Yankees exploded for those five runs in the first inning and it was glorious. They hit homers, had regular old base hits with runners in scoring position, they scored on an out, the defense made an error, there was something for everyone in that inning. New York’s offense folded right up after that, recording just five hits — including two infield singles by Derek Jeter — the rest of the way. Only two Yankees made it as far as second base after that first inning. I really don’t have the motivation to write about this, they’ve been stinking the place up with the bats since the start of the West Coast trip.

(Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)


Since the start of the Red Sox series, the Yankees’ cleanup hitters are a combined 1-for-20. This lineup is just so much different without Alex Rodriguez, he changes everything. Robinson Cano and Curtis Granderson have a combined two hits in their last 33 at-bats, both of which came in that first inning (single by Grandy, homer by Robbie)

The Yankees have drawn one walk in these two games, which is very un-Yankee-like. You can tell when this offense is in a funk because they aren’t racking up big pitch counts and drawing those base-on-balls. They’re all trying to force something that isn’t there. On the other hand, every starter had at least one hit, but most of them came in that first inning. Jeter had three and was the only guy with multiple knocks.

For a guy with a great arm, it sure seems like a lot of base-runners have taken the extra-base on Ichiro Suzuki since he came to New York, no? Maybe my expectations were too high. Either way, he slapped a ground ball single back up the middle to extend his streak of exactly one hit in every game with the Yankees to eight.

Clay Rapada allowed a two-run homer to Nick Markakis, pretty much a no-no for a left-handed specialist. Boone Logan and Cody Eppley otherwise pitched well after Nova bit the bullet for five innings. The bullpen was short with Chad Qualls on his way to Pittsburgh and David Phelps unavailable after throwing nearly 40 pitches on Monday.

Box Score, WPA Graph & Standings

MLB.com has the box score and video highlights, FanGraphs some other stats, and ESPN the updated standings. The Yankees are still six games up in the loss column in the division.

Source: FanGraphs

Up Next

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  1. Cy Pettitte says:

    I don’t know what was more painful, watching that game or reading Nova’s post game comments from Carig:

    Nova: “The stuff was good. Like I said, bad day. Bad day. That’s the game.”

    Nova: “Bad luck. I had a bad day, it was a tough day for me. ”

    Nova: “I threw a lot of good sliders, I threw some good curveballs, I broke two bats and they got base hits.”

    Nova: “I felt really good and I threw strikes but I gave up 10 hits, nine runs. That’s part of the game.”

    • bobtaco says:


    • BigBlueAL says:

      Yeah, Carig even compared it to IPK back in 2008. Carig is not someone to talk about or make a big fuss about player quotes but even he seemed surprised with Nova’s quotes and attitude after the game.

    • dave says:

      I hate to inform you all BUT it is the pathetic hitting that is why this team will make a quick exit just like the last two playoff years.

      I cannot wait to go to Vegas and bet against this pathetic bunch of prima donnas who cannot hit there way out of a wet paperbag when it counts.

      There hitting with RISP will be the end of them in the playoffs and IF anyone thinks it will change just because it is the playoffs you are obviously BLIND to what you are watching.

    • Stan the Man says:

      Would you prefer he sit at his locker and cry? He had a bad day that was clear to see and he said he had a bad day. No reason to look to deeply into these comments.

  2. Jacob says:

    Ready to eat some bird tomorrow

  3. captain kiwi says:

    yikes. got home 20 minutes ago and that’s just an ugly game to come home to. not just losing, but the way they lost. i really miss a-rod. not to mention not having teix in there tonight. there are no excuses whatsoever for nova either. earlier, i felt confident about tonight’s game. i feel that way for tomorrow! …maybe i shouldn’t. this loss really sucks.

  4. 28 this year says:

    Well should the Yankees make the playoffs, Nova has some work to do just to earn a spot on the roster. Right now, I got CC, Kuroda and then Pettitte and Hughes lined up (play the hot hand/depends on how Pettitte looks when he returns). If Joba is back and himself, there’s really no need for Nova in the bullpen since he woudl never pitch anyway cause Joba, Robertson, and Soriano woudl handle the majority if not all the bullpen work. Nova really needs to step it up here. I wish the Yankees could send him down. I am not an expert but to me, he seems to have more velocity this year on all his pitches and he can’t command that velocity because he’s not used to it.

    • JohnnyC says:

      No difference in his FB velo. 92.6 in 2011, 92.9 in 2012. He’s lost the spin on his breaking stuff. It’s either a mechanical issue or he’s hiding an injury (he had back spasms earlier this year). Strange that his only good month was June when he faced mostly NL teams.

    • Anthony says:

      Yup. Didn’t watch the game but this pretty much solidifies who will be taking that 4th rotation spot. Originally it was up in the air between Nova and Hughes but tonight says a lot. Nova had a few great starts, several bad ones, making this year really just mediocre for him. Way too many XBH.

    • Stan the Man says:

      We are already setting postseason roster 2 months before the postseason starts? We are adding a pitcher in Pettitte who just had a setback on his rehab and hasn’t pitched since June? Hmm, that guy may need to prove he can handle himself as well. Nova had a bad start, but he needs to get himself back to the way he was pitching in June, which he has plenty of time to do since it is Aug. 1st and not Oct. 1st.

  5. JohnnyC says:

    Send Nova down. Put Phelps in the rotation. Call up Warren or Ramon Ortiz to play long man. Nova needs tough love. Demote him to the traveling circus.

    • Heisenberg's Hat says:

      Nova’s still better than Freddie.

      • sangreal says:

        Freddy has been better than Nova in just about every metric since rejoining the rotation at the start of July.

        • Heisenberg's Hat says:

          If you’re going to judge based on that arbitrary sample, then yes.
          If I had a gun to my head and had to decide which pitcher had a better chance of winning a game, I’d still pick Nova. Yeah Nova was terrible tonight, but this was how Freddie pitched basically every game before getting sent to the bullpen.

          • sangreal says:

            It’s a (somewhat) small sample, but it certainly isn’t arbitrary.

            I wasn’t even including Nova’s disaster tonight.

            • Stan the Man says:

              Sending Nova down would probably be as dumb a move as it was last year. He had one terrible start which was last night. In his other starts this month he struggled at times but kept the Yanks in the game and as he showed in June he can be flat out dominant for stretches. Sending him down would accomplish nothing and make the rotation weaker.

    • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (former Manny's BanWagon) says:

      Agree 100%. He’s not helping the club pitching like shit. Maybe a month in AAA cous straighten him out and he could come back in september and actually help the club.

  6. Kevin says:

    Two outs is when the O’s did all their damage. Yankees get to two outs and do nothing. THe O’s showed us how it’s done.

  7. What’s up with the impatient hitting? Is Kevin Long talking to these guys or what? And sure, Grandy’s going to strike out more than a lot of other players, but lately he doesn’t seem to expect to do anything else — he swings at strike three like he’s trying to say, “Okay, time for me to go sit down again, now.” Yanks in deep kimchi right now and only the mediocrity of the competition to thank for their cushion. I sure as heck wouldn’t pick ‘em to win a playoff series right now.

    • NYCSPORTZFAN says:

      guys have been throwing strikes against us though.. There forcing us to swing the bats in bad situations by throwing strikes to ouraging vets, and were not doing anything with the pitches over the plate..

      That dude Gonzalez was peppering the Strikezone with mediocre stuff all night the other day and we did nothing with him.. THe announcers said that there is a time to tip ur cap to the pitcher, but tongihts not that night..lol

      THe aging vets need to catch up to fastballs.. All i’ve seen is horrible contact, or strikes on pitche right there to drive…

    • Stan the Man says:

      Very funny take on Granderson. I wouldn’t pick them to win a playoff series either, I don’t think the playoffs start yet. Although 2 weeks ago they were the ficitional WS Champs.

  8. aarpyanks says:

    Its true that above all else, baseball is such a mental game and having Arod in the lineup makes a huge difference. But based on the id you can probably tell that I am not in favor of a 10 yr deal for a 32/33 yr old.

    Maybe getting swept by the Orioles at home will be a much needed eye-opener, so yes let the bird poop all over this mess. Experience helps channel youthful energy, but the weight of 162 games on 35+ shoulders cannot be overcome by any amount of sustained past success.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Ivan Nova is 25 years old. Clay Rapada and Boone Logan are in their twenties. Cano is 29. Granderson is 31. Russell Martin is 29. What are you talking about?

      • Bo Knows says:

        Rapada is 31

      • aarpyanks says:

        Yes you are right we are young and playoff ready cos we have Nova, Phil, Joba, Martin, Logan and Rapada and Granderson as the young guns to blaze through the competition in a short series.

        • JohnnyC says:

          So, what? You want old guns? I thought that was your complaint in the first place. Or maybe these guys aren’t young enough? Maybe we should just swap rosters with Low A Charleston.

          • aarpyanks says:

            Youth is not the only thing…it is the right youth(hence my previous comment about examples you cite do not negate what I intended to say). I presumed knowing that was a given in a site like this, but clearly I underestimated the reach of irrationality.

            My (sarcastic) last comment about the different young players was to the effect that the young mix that you cite as example is no way ready to compete with any of the current top teams.

            The implication of my comment is that with more teams signing their core players long term the only way to amass true young talent to build around would be to get more early picks in the draft.

            • Heisenberg's Hat says:

              You get high draft picks when you finish the season with a shitty record. Is that what you’re advocating?

              • aarpyanks says:

                Yes, if it is a dynasty that we want, then that is the implication of my point. Sure does not look like we can buy a couple of 28 yr old studs in their prime (except Cano).

                • Heisenberg's Hat says:

                  Your plan would entail trading or releasing all of the high priced veterans, then playing garbage baseball for the next 4 or 5 years.
                  I don’t want to speak for anyone else here, but that sounds like an awful idea to me. Depressing, too.
                  I’d much rather have them field a good-to-great, competitive team every year, and hope to catch lightning in the playoffs. A world series appearance every few years, and a few titles mixed in, that’s what I want.
                  “Rebuilding seasons” are damn depressing, unless you forgot the early nineties.

              • aarpyanks says:

                The other possibility is getting 32 year old (still sort of in their prime, like Tex) stars for a boat load of money and years and squeeze one (if lucky two) WS win out of them every 20 year or so.

                We seem headed that way. I sure am a little more greedy and wish for a whole bunch of WS appearances in a row and be on the high for an extended period like the late 90s.

                • Stan the Man says:

                  Why would the Yanks be lucky to get 2 WS titles? They consistently have the top record in baseball or the Al heading into the postseason. Luck has nothing to do with being a top team after 162 game regular season, luck is more in play in the post-season.

      • aarpyanks says:

        My point is not that we do not have anyone young in the team.

        It was just that the core of the team seems to be built around aging (ex-) stars. It sure seems like a stretch to hope a lot from a team like that, would love to be proven wrong come October.

        • JohnnyC says:

          So you’re killing Cashman because Mike Trout, Bryce Harper and Steven Strasburg aren’t Yankees? The Cardinals won the WS last year with a 34 year old SS, a 35 year old RF, a 36 year old ace starter and a 28 year old 3rd baseman in only his second full season in the majors. And their star first baseman was an indeterminate 31 years old having the worst season of his career (until 2012). They started the year with a 38 year old closer. Also, their manager was the oldest skipper in the majors.

          • aarpyanks says:

            So did we win once in 2009 with the relatively older players.

            It is a question of likelihood of winning consistently when the team is built around a core with an average age north of 33. Across different sports, to every (rare) of senile success, there exists several examples of ex-superstars failing.

  9. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    This loss might have been almost bearable if Nova had just manned up in the postgame presser.

    “You know what? I stunk. I didn’t get it done. I was throwing batting practice out there. I got my butt kicked all over the yard and there’s no excuse for that. It won’t happen again.”

    Something like that.

    Also: Clay Rapada = embedded Bird

    • JohnnyC says:

      Everyone loved his swagger 6 weeks ago. Even then he led the majors in giving up XBHs.

      • Heisenberg's Hat says:

        You have to be good to have swagger. I don’t even like it when a player’s good enough, I certainly don’t want to hear it from a guy who’s having a “Jose Lima in 2000″ kind of season.

      • Bo Knows says:

        there is a fine line between cocky and arrogant, all players should be a little cocky….but if the tweets are true then he is in the arrogant territory and that needs to be dealt with ASAP. He is far too talented, to have games as bad as this

        • JohnnyC says:

          Or maybe he’s regressed to hs norm. After all, he’s the same guy who was left off the 40 man, picked in the Rule V draft by SD (and returned after ST). He’s the same guy who gave up too many hits and struck out too few until a month in the minors gave him a stark makeover (and a shiny new slider). He’s the same guy who’s had 1 good month this season (against mostly NL teams). Maybe there’s really no there there.

          • Bo Knows says:

            He was in A ball when he was picked up in the Rule 5, of course he was going to get his ass handed to him. Also for a guy who “strikes out too few” he’s done a damn fine job of striking guys out since his demotion.

  10. Deep Thoughts says:

    Feel better? Good. Get it out of your system. Tomorrow’s another day.

  11. paul a says:

    So Burnette almost pitches a no hitter
    Texas beats us out of Dempster
    Nova pitches like shit
    like Garcia did last night.
    Whats wrong with this picture ?

  12. NYCSPORTZFAN says:

    Its crazy.. I’ve been calling four RH POP and another more consistent reliever that isnt a scrap heap dude, whos trended downward over the past few seasons, for months.. I don’t know why it takes some of u to actually see this happen to realize these moves need to be made.. Its like u can’t see through the bull=crap to realize sometimes, ur getting results from guys that probably not gonna last, and u don’t have to wait untill it starts costing u games, before making a change..
    The whole point of getting scrap heap guys is to fill in holes while getting solid results, and hopefully a better conistent option will come ur way down the line.. U don’t hold on to these guys untill the bargain becomes a joke, and starts looking like a foolish idea even putting trust in the guy/guys..

    I’m talking about Wade, Rapada, Logan, Garcia, Martin, Nova…etc Some of u thought the people on here who didn’ trust Nova despite his record and solid ERA were crazy.. U could see gave up to many ex base hits and it would eventually haunt him.. The same thing with the HR’s for hughes.. U bet those are gonna haunt us really badly soon enough

    • Anthony says:

      There is definitely a few here who IMHO put too much faith in the players. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they’re wrong. Nova has struck me as mediocre this season and not exactly playoff material. I started off with a neutral leaning negative view of Hughes but lately its been more positive. Definitely would have him in the postseason, but the HRs are definitely a concern.

  13. Troy says:

    It’s looking bleak fellow Yankee fans. I find it hard to believe cashman didn’t get a bat because we have far too few at this stage.

  14. Kevin says:

    THe last time the Yankees lost a game after leading by five in the first inning was 1918.

  15. pistol pete says:

    We won Friday night and led Boston by 11.5, now it’s Wed and we’re up by 7.5 and less on Baltimore and have lost ARod and who knows how long with Tex. It’s a long season and the Yanks are very fortunate they played well enough to get such a sizeable lead but baseball is a momentum sport and right now we have none. We made little noise at the deadline and have to limp to the wire with what got us here. I hope it’s enough but I’m nervous that the Yanks overachieved early and are now coming back to earth. The losses of Rivera, Pettitte, ARod, and now Tex are piling up and with what’s left the Yanks will be lucky to hang on.

    • MannyGeee says:

      “he losses of Rivera, Pettitte, ARod, and now Tex are piling up…”

      worst part is, all freak injuries to core veterans. total bum out. You can at least make a case if these are 4 old guys who cant stay healthy, but Damn! ACL tear shaggin fly balls, hit by comebacker, HBP, and an awkward fall on the wrist…

      just weird.

  16. DT says:

    Phelps deserves a shot at Nova’s spot. the only thing that kept his ERA shiny uptil today was June. His post game comments are also infuriating.

  17. Cuso says:

    Anyone see the BS suspended game win the Red Sox got? 4-1 in the top 6th when Tigers had bases loaded…

    They get one of two of those every year.

    Now we did get one this year too…against Toronto. But we were up 6-0 in the top 8th and Bautista just went on DL and Lawrie just left the game after falling into the camera well.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      I don’t know how a game like that can be shitcanned, and not suspended.

      The go-ahead run was at the plate, and it was only the 6th inning. That’s about the closest thing you’ll ever see to a chicken-shit win in baseball. Doesn’t help that the Yankees revived the Red Sox themselves over the weekend, enabling something like this to be noteworthy.

  18. dalelama says:

    Cashman fiddles as Rome burns.

  19. pistol pete says:

    Cashman is GM’ing the new Yanks and this group does not spend money like George’s Yanks. Do you think George would have been beaten out on Darvish, Dempster, Halladay a couple years ago, Lee etc. This is a new era. It’s hard to believe Cashman only got a 260 38 yr old singles hitter in Ichiro who I think will help and someone I’ve never heard of from Pittsburgh. Texas got Darvish during the off season and Dempster at the deadline, that used to be the Yanks that got those guys. We’re trying to win with Garcia, Nova, Rapada, etc. It’s probably not going to happen. The Yanks are limping home.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      For all your fawning over what Texas has done, they’re in worse shape than the Yankees right now. All Dempster does is replace Lewis.

    • Bunt Gardner says:

      Pete, take a moment and think about what you are saying and where the Yankees would be if they made all those trades and signings. Darvish would mean no Kuroda who is pitching better than Darvish now. Halladay would have missed a chunk of this season due to injury and there would be no Joba or Hughes. Lee might have caused NY to let CC walk, who is pitching better than Lee this year. Dempster…if you think he would be the savior, well…..

  20. gc says:

    And this is why as much as I enjoyed the run they went on, I didn’t allow myself to get too high about it and start making declarations about the division being over and that the Yanks were unstoppable. Every team goes through spells where they look like they just can’t lose and every team goes through spells where it’s just the opposite. I still think the Yankees as currently constructed are one of the three or four best teams in baseball this year. I never believed they were going to continue playing as great as they were when they went on their run and I don’t believe they’re as bad as they are right now. In the end, I think they’ll make the playoffs and that’s all I really care about. Can’t win the World Series if you don’t get there. What happens if and when they get there? Nobody knows. I wouldn’t be shocked if they got booted in the first round and I wouldn’t be shocked if they won it all.

    Point is, relax. Get off the ledge. The season still has a ways to go. This is still a very good baseball team and there are lots of teams out there in far worse shape who WISH they had the kinds of “problems” the Yankees have.

    • captain kiwi says:

      this post is too logical. you sure you’re a yankee fan?

      i will disagree that, at this very moment, the yankees are one of the 3 or 4 best teams. without a-rod and teix, we lose a lot of “oomph”. the rotation is a good one, and i still have plenty of faith in our pen, which is bolstered moreso with joba. ichiro is a good addition (though too bad we can’t merge him and swish into a single player huh?), and our team is still competent defensively. top 8 team, i’d say.

      4 in a row is gross, yes, but as you said, there are plenty of games left. our cushion is definitely a great one, if only for the fact that we need it right now.

  21. Bo Knows says:

    Nova’s postgame, it doesn’t sound nearly as bad as what Carig was describing


  22. Kramerica Industries says:

    Nitpick time:

    I can subscribe to the idea of “salvaging” a series, if it’s on the road, and against a quality team like the Angels or Rangers or something.

    I cannot subscribe to the idea that this series is “salvageable”. This is just a lost series. An abomination. Yankees were 21-6 at the new ballpark against the Orioles, entering this season. They’re 1-4 this year. They’ve already lost two of the three series’. It’s ridiculous. Tomorrow’s game is not so much to salvage this series, but to try and keep the slightest bit of respect they still have for themselves. The Orioles (and everyone else) had all but fallen out of the division race after Friday night. Now? 5.5 games is next to nothing. Especially with the head to heads that still remain.

    Brutal. Four straight losses, at home. Pretty sure that hasn’t happened since May of 2010. All four losses against divisional opponents. Fucking sucks.

    • Kevin says:

      Agree 100% We had this division in the bag and thanks to how we’ve played the last two weeks..we’ve given all the other teams life again,especially Boston whom we could have and should have buried.

      • Deep Thoughts says:

        With what happened in both the AL East and NL East last year, and the Mets before that, and every frickin year over and over, you thought the division was “in the bag” in July?

        oaktag, the lot of you.

  23. Jacob says:

    I love Nova, I admit that it was super angering (I childishly through my ipod and hit my door at least 5 times) but you know what? this is his 2nd year and he just has to make adjustments it happens to all pitchers we all need to calm down and let the kid get through it. And Girardi left him in to teach him I NEVER compliment Joe but that was a good move. KICK BIRD ASS TOMORROW WIN STREAK COMING.

  24. Sean says:

    With Granderson striking out as often as he does, why would the Yanks resign him in the future? His AB’s are becomming maddening!

    • Heisenberg's Hat says:

      Because according to some people “strikeouts don’t matter.”

    • Cris Pengiucci says:

      why would the Yanks resign him in the future?

      1) The Yankees dont’t have to decide to resign him until the beginning of the ’14 season. They have an option on him for next season. Plenty of time to determine what they perceive his value to be.

      2) The people on this site don’t make the decision as to who gets signed and who doesn’t. The fact that many are saying he must be signed means nothing.

      3) While Cashman has said he would consider negotiating a contract with Granderson after this season, that doesn’t mean they will sign him no matter the cost. He and his brain-trust will determine what they feel is an appropriate value and attempt to get him to sign for that. I trust them to do the best they can for the team. They get paid to do that job and will potentially be fired if they make too many wrong decisions. They absolutely should know way more than we do. If they don’t, many of us would gladly sign up for their jobs, which in all likelyhood, pay way more than what most of us make! Since they’re doing it and we aren’t, I sus[ect they’re better at it than we would be.

  25. Anthony says:

    What is happening with Rapada? Before the past two weeks he has been basically lights out!

  26. Darren says:

    I’m glad Joba didn’t pitch. Want him ready to pitch a big inning tomorrow afternoon and get a huge ovation. Wish I was going. Maybe I will.

  27. Pat M says:

    Yanks need to shop Curtis this winter and then sign Melky…..San Diego has a nice 3rd baseman that can be had for the right deal.

  28. Bavarian Yankee says:

    it starts to feel like we’re watching the 2011 Red Sox in pinstripes. That nice 10 game lead in the division is already a distant memory. It also feels like the division lead will be a distant memory pretty soon. Lookout 2011 Sawx, the 2012 Yankees will make it look even more epic by turning a 10 game lead into 5th place ;) j/k

  29. Bavarian Yankee says:

    btw: Burnett almost had a no-hitter yesterday. Great to see him in good shape, I knew he can turn it around.

  30. TomH says:

    This lineup is just so much different without Alex Rodriguez, he changes everything.

    The key line from Axisa’s rehash of the game. It matters zilch that ARod hadn’t lived up to his rep this year. Pitchers don’t give a damn about stats. The dynamics of the games are very different without him for the other team’s pitcher to worry about.

    • TomH says:

      P.S. Don’t give a damn about stats (except, ha ha, for their own).

    • Cris Pengiucci says:

      Fully agree. I’ve said it before, I am not the biggest ARod fan, but even at his current levels of production, he is a force in the lineup that is certainly being missed right now.

  31. David Ortizs Dealer says:

    I think we should have traded Larry Rothchild, he wreaked arms in Chicago, couldnt help AJ, Nova and Hughes have talent being wasted.

  32. David Ortizs Dealer says:

    I think we should have traded Larry Rothchild, he destroyed arms in Chicago, couldnt help AJ, Nova and Hughes have talent being wasted.

  33. Billy says:

    Send that lazy ass kid with attititude problems back to AAA. Let him correct his “luck” there and give Phelps his spot.

  34. DJ4K&Monterowasdinero says:

    Time for Nunez and Cervelli. Stats be damned. We need some youth, speed, enthusiasm, fist pumping.

  35. to the track...to the wall..we are tied! says:

    If only they had a Strikeout Derby at the ASG – Granderson, Dunn and Reynolds would be an epic battle.

    • Kosmo says:

      1)Dunn: 152 Ks, I laugh everytime I see his mounting K totals.
      2) Pena: 135
      3) Granderson 127
      they´re the elite group.

      interesting our man Headley is 9th on the list w/ 108 Ks

  36. Chad Gaudin the Friendly Ghost says:

    Good to see Yankee fans in full hysteria mode this morning.

  37. Eddard says:

    Offense- Don’t know if it’ll score 5 runs in one inning or 0 for 16 consecutive innings. They’re so inconsistent. If home runs aren’t being hit, runs aren’t being scored and that’s a problem.

    Pitching- Nova needs to be sent down to AAA and Phelps will replace him for now. Ivan needs to work on his control. Freddy has been outpitching Nova so he stays. Too bad we didn’t get another starter at the deadline.

    We’ve got a fight on our hands now. Today is a must win. We must stop the Os momentum and hold off the Sox. Fly ball Phil has to find a way to keep the ball in the park.

  38. JohnC says:

    What a joke this forum has turned into. Yanks hit a little bump in ther road, and everyone thinks the sky is falling. Cashman doesn’t empty the farm for a stopgap solution and everyone is raving mad. Yet when he trades 1 prospect, Montero, those same people can’t stop whining about it or pining for him back. No wonder other fan bases make fun of Yankee fans so much

    • Deep Thoughts says:

      Don’t forget “we’re too old, everyone’s declining” followed by “send [insert youngster - Nunez, Hughes, Nova, Pena] down–HE SUCKS!–and bring up another untested kid or trade for an unattainable veteran star.”

      These are the days I miss the old NoMaas forums. You could post panicky or stupid but boy you would get ripped for it and corrected. Here that stuff is modeled, not discouraged.

      • YanksFanInBeantown says:

        It’s because, as time goes by, more and more stupid people are figuring out how to use the internet.

        Not to mention that a new crop of 14 year olds discovers RAB every year.

    • Klemy says:

      Turned into? It’s always been like this.

  39. DJ4K&Monterowasdinero says:

    We get a full night’s sleep when we are 10 games up.

    We toss and turn at 5 games up.

    We will be in panic mode at 2 games up.

    We will be on anti-depressant medication when we lose the lead.

    The 4 stages of Yankee fandom and grief.

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