Aug
04

Game 106: Felix

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(AP Photo/Kathy Kmonicek)

It’s amazing how the Yankees never ever seem to miss Felix Hernandez when they play the Mariners. He’s started a game in every series between these two teams since the second half of 2009, a span of ten series. I mean, just statistically speaking you’d expect him to miss at least one of those ten series, but no. Oh well, the Yankees have beaten him before (not often) and they’ll just have to beat him against this afternoon. Here’s the lineup, same as last night’s…

CF Curtis Granderson
SS Derek Jeter
2B Robinson Cano
1B Mark Teixeira
DH Raul Ibanez
RF Nick Swisher
3B Eric Chaveztested the foot out in batting practice and he’s good to go
LF Ichiro Suzuki
Russell Martin

RHP Hiroki Kuroda

This afternoon’s game starts at 1:05pm ET and can be seen on YES locally and MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads

362 Comments»

  1. The Real Greg says:

    Looking at Felix’s career against the Yanks, he’s not as dominant as you would think.

    7-5 with a 3.35 ERA in 13 career starts

    • The Real Greg says:

      3.38 ERA

    • Dropped Third says:

      Against the yankees that a pretty good line for 13 starts.

    • Bartolo's Colon says:

      look at since 2009, it’s much better, 2006 and 2008 weren’t so great for him against the yanks

      • Bartolo's Colon says:

        also look at 2010, not sure if there has ever been a pitcher who has owned the yanks over one season. his #’s are just mind boggling that year (especially against the yanks), i think thats the year he won the cy

        • Kramerica Industries says:

          I know Tigers pitcher Frank Lary was considered a Yankee Killer way back in the day.

          I’d have to check his stats to see how he stacked up to Felix’s 26 IP/1 ER performance of 2010. 17 IP, 0 ER at Yankee Stadium.

          • Get Phelps Up says:

            He was 28-13, 3.38 ERA in 371.2 career IP against the Yankees.
            12-6, 3.11 ERA in 167.2 career IP at YS.

  2. Pat D says:

    I can’t believe I’m watching so much of the Olympics. I almost feel like it’s 1996 again.

    I guess it’s because I’m unemployed and have lots of time.

  3. Felix Hernandez is the 31st best pitcher in baseball, he only has 9 wins.

    /Micheal Kay’d

  4. jjyank says:

    So my buddy is at the game today in a luxury box for his dad’s birthday and just met Jim Leyritz.

  5. Something I wanted to mention, on my way home last night I was listening to the end of the game on the radio. After CC gave up the homer in the 9th and Joe G came out of the dugout, right after he came out of the dugout WCBS cut to commercial. They came back after/as Casper Wells(i think) flied out, and Sterling said something along the lines of “Sometimes Joe fakes us out, there’s not a problem with that.” All I could think is there absolutely is a problem with that, how poor is your broadcast run that it cuts to a commercial before the manager makes any sort of motion to signify he was going to the pen. Imagine if they did that in the 03 ALCS when Little came out and you missed the following AB, how upset would you be?

  6. jjyank says:

    I still can’t believe Jeter is leading the AL in hits in August. That’s crazy.

  7. CBean says:

    how about some payback for Alex, boys. And by payback, I mean winning!

  8. Suzyn does know that Felix is a righty right?

  9. jjyank says:

    Watching on MLBN, and a big, giant LOL at the commercial for the Marlins being the subject of “The Franchise”, where they follow one team during the season. Guess they picked the wrong team.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      New geographic distinction.

      New uniforms.

      New spending approach.

      —–

      Same old Marlins.

      • jjyank says:

        Heh. The best part is the quotes from pep talks in the locker room in the commercial. They’re saying things like “This is a new team, we’re here to win” and “This is our year”. Then “Watch the Marlins on this year’s ‘The Franchise’”.

        Ha!

  10. Bartolo's Colon says:

    no doubt felix is the answer, but that is cute thinking about the mariners in an elimination game. i guess an elimination game possibly for the team playing the mariners

  11. Bartolo's Colon says:

    jaso is ridiculous this year, how did the m’s get him from the rays?

  12. Brian S. says:

    Just fucking hit Jaso from now on.

  13. Brian S. says:

    They need to start beaning Jaso.

  14. Kramerica Industries says:

    That was one annoying-ass AB, with an annoying end.

  15. Brian S. says:

    Fuck the Mariners.

  16. The Real Greg says:

    M’s got their run on a LEADOFF double.

    Yankees need to start rallies early in innings and not just wait til two outs.

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo (formerly StanfordBen) says:

      Are you saying the Yankees bat more poorly in the first two batters of the inning than after that? I don’t think that’s true. (For example, Jeter has been leading off most of the season, and he’s done quite well.)

  17. The radio team is talking about how surprised they are that Don Kelly got DFA’d by the Tigers. Are they really surprised that the team that let a face of their franchise (Brandon Inge) go because he was terrible DFA’d a guy who has hit .175/.267/.243 this season?

  18. I guarantee the Yankees bring up the tying run.

  19. The Real Greg says:

    That wasn’t a swing last night dammit

  20. Brian S. says:

    He didn’t swing but whatever.

  21. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    That’s at least four times in the last three games that a Yankee has ALMOST homered on one pitch, only to strikeout on the next pitch.

  22. Brian S. says:

    First pitch to Chavez was a ball but whatever.

  23. The Troll says:

    Hey Mike, can you please ban all banter regarding Sterling and Suzyn? Every game thread it’s the same ol’ shit. It’s intolerable. Oh, could we also apply such principles to Kay as well? Or, better yet, provide a separate announcer’s thread so that these perpetual complainers can have a place all their own?

  24. The Real Greg says:

    This has CGSO written all over it.

  25. Felix is averaging 9 pitches per inning. I know he throws a ton of strikes, but they have to figure out a way to work him a little bit.

  26. Bartolo's Colon says:

    crap, felix only has 18 pitches through 2. at least we had a few good swings

  27. jjyank says:

    The streak is alive!

  28. Arya says:

    Now pinch hit for him next time around, he’s already met his quota for the day.

  29. …why exactly is Ichiro not running?

  30. Brian S. says:

    Steal Ichi, steal!

  31. The Real Greg says:

    Martin never gave him a chance to steal. He was behind 0-2 in an instant

  32. Arya says:

    And that’s why you bunt with the .195 hitter. Runs won’t come easy today and Joe just wasted a chance to get a runner in scoring position.

  33. Wow says:

    It’s an incredible waste to have Ichiro batting where he is.

  34. Kramerica Industries says:

    Ichiro, Brett Boone, Jon Olerud, Jamie Moyer?

  35. Kramerica Industries says:

    Tex is such a fantastic glovesman.

  36. Mike N says:

    LOVE Teix at 1B!

  37. Brian S. says:

    Save us Cano!

  38. Brian S. says:

    Cano takes 2-0 pitch right down the middle, swings at 2-1 pitch in the dirt.

  39. The Real Greg says:

    Its amazing that Seattle is willing to waste this great pitcher on a team that is not going anywhere

    • Bartolo's Colon says:

      really, the haul they could get would be unbelievable, they have to be at least 2-3 years away from competing anyway

      • The Real Greg says:

        Totally agree.

      • jjyank says:

        Unfortunately Felix isn’t cheap anymore. If I were the Seattle GM, I would have traded him for an insane haul a year or two ago. Even if Felix does stick around, I doubt he’d be enough to put them over the hill for the next several years. But if Felix had been turned into 3-4 pieces, maybe.

    • Brian S. says:

      They are trying to build a team around him. They need to sign a free agent outfielder in the worst way because they have enough pitching (assuming their trio of top-tier pitching prospects bears fruit).

      • Get Phelps Up says:

        The problem is, no big FA wants to go to Safeco. That’s why they really need guys like Ackley, Smoak and Montero to start hitting.

      • The Real Greg says:

        The thing though is that their park is pitcher friendly, so a lot of pitchers would be successful there. Felix becomes a luxury, not a necessity.

  40. Brian S. says:

    CGSO on 90 pitches. Team wants to go enjoy their Saturday.

  41. Bartolo's Colon says:

    wow, one run lead seems like 10 today, doubt we see another pitcher. please hold them at 1 hirok

  42. Brian S. says:

    2-2 pitch right down the middle. Piss off ump.

  43. Brian S. says:

    Bean Carp

  44. Kramerica Industries says:

    Michael Kay calling the Angels “California” makes me feel young.

    Hell, I still call them Anaheim.

    • jjyank says:

      “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” is the dumbed team name ever. Pick a fucking city.

      • Dale Mohorcic says:

        I live in Los Angeles near dodger stadium. Anaheim is 35 miles away. It’s as Los Angeles as Peekskill is NYC

        • jjyank says:

          Oh I know, that’s part of why I think it’s so stupid. My parents lived in San Diego between college and getting married, and I’ve been out there for vacation several times. The first time we drove from LA through Anaheim, my first thought was “What the fuck? This isn’t LA, why do the Angels call themselves the LA Angels??”

  45. The Real Greg says:

    Kuroda really hasn’t been at his best today. 2 doubles given up

  46. Dale Mohorcic says:

    I don’t doubt for one second that John sterling is the type who wears a speedo on the beach. Ick.

  47. The Real Greg says:

    Luis Sojo

  48. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    My namesake!

    • Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

      That was supposed to be a response to Greg. Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s the right trivia answer.

  49. CUYanks says:

    Good at bat here— seeing some pitches.

  50. Brian S. says:

    Ibanez sucks

  51. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    Score please.

  52. Bartolo's Colon says:

    all you can do is tip your cap

  53. CUYanks says:

    At least they got the pitch count to over 10 pitches/inning.

  54. The Real Greg says:

    Days like this, you just tip your cap

  55. Mike N says:

    We need to get Hernandez’s pitch count up and get to the damn bullpen.

    • CUYanks says:

      Problem is their closer is good also, and it’s gonna be hard to get felix out before the 8th, considering how many pitches he’s allowed to throw.

  56. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    I hate this commercial with the talking dog. It’s so badly done. Plus no one in the history of EVER has described a dog as “woman or man’s best friend.” That’s just over the top PC nonsense.

  57. jjyank says:

    Maybe the Jets should sign A-Rod! He’s probably be better than Sanchez and Tebow.

  58. CUYanks says:

    Good news is that although it might be hard to get Felix out of this game, it isn’t impossible to score 1 run off of him, so if Hiroki keeps it right here, there’s still a chance.

  59. Pasta Stumbling Sojo says:

    Man, Jesus is such a funny runner.

  60. RetroRob says:

    John Jaso. The Rays make errors, too.

  61. The Real Greg says:

    Just wondering, was the last time the Yankees were CGSO’d Doug Davis in Chicago?

  62. CUYanks says:

    Let’s hope the 1-pitch Ichiro Out doesn’t make an appearance this inning. OPIO?

  63. The Real Greg says:

    Again,bad Babip for Ichiro

  64. RetroRob says:

    The M’s totally should trade King Felix and get the prospects. They’re a few years away and Felix’s next contract will be huge.

  65. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    Steal second!

  66. Kevin says:

    I hate Felix,I really do.

  67. The Real Greg says:

    Again, no opportunity to steal

  68. Mike Stanley says:

    The Mariners have a moral obligation to trade Felix. Not to the Yankees, but to someone. Hanging onto him is completely asinine.

  69. The Real Greg says:

    No shame in being shut out by Felix. He has shut out Texas and Boston this year.

  70. vicki says:

    has anyone noted the strangeness of russ starting the day game after a night game, against a righty no less? i know he and hirok are bff’s but i’m surprised.

  71. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    I’m pretty tired of the narrative “they just sit around and wait for the home run.” It’s annoying and stupid.
    But when your two fastest runners have both gotten on base and neither one of them has even attempted a stolen base, something’s wrong with that picture.

  72. 28 this year says:

    Both Kay and O’Neil were drunk at that wedding. O’Neil doesn’t remember it and Kay thinks he can dance.

  73. Mike N says:

    What a feeble throw by Swisher.

  74. Arya says:

    Finally some retribution for Alex.

  75. The Real Greg says:

    Even though he gave up the one run, not the best start by Kuroda. 7 hits, including 3 doubles to a light offensive team

  76. fucking customers…have I missed anything since Ichiro’s not steal?

  77. jjyank says:

    Nice to see Phelps warming in a high leverage spot.

  78. Mike N says:

    So is Felix gonna plunk someone and get booted?

  79. The Real Greg says:

    If Cano can get a leadoff extra base hit, we will be in buisness

  80. Defensive Indifference says:

    Bout time Boone earned another cookie. It feels like it’s been weeks.

  81. Kramerica Industries says:

    Jeez.

    6.2 IP, 70 pitches. Insane.

  82. Bartolo's Colon says:

    at this point i would like to see them go in to the bottom 9 down 1-0 and walk off against felix, then a-rod runs out of the dugout, but not to celebrate, he runs over to felix and shatters his wrist over his knee, talk about an awesome way to end the game

  83. Karl Krawfid says:

    This has to be one the worst approaches I have seen against a pitcher in a long time.

    1-0 swing. 1-0 swing.

  84. CBean says:

    how about some garbage time, swishy?

  85. Bartolo's Colon says:

    too bad we can’t call up c-dick mid game, guaranteed jack against felix

  86. Bartolo's Colon says:

    that was about the most embarrasing ab i have seen in a long time

  87. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Can you say CGSO for Felix today? He’s looking filthy out there.

  88. I know we’re apparently not allowed to talk about broadcasters anymore because The Troll is all butt-hurt about it. But I’ve never heard anybody so excited about a 4th K of the game…just a little over the top there Seattle play-by-play guy.

  89. Arya says:

    They’re just sitting back and waiting for someone to hit a home run like usual. Only today they’re facing a good pitcher which is all we’ll see in the postseason. Joe needs to start playing small ball if he wants to tie the game.

    • The Real Greg says:

      You are really not thinking properly.

      There is going to be no pitcher like Felix in the postseason.

      They’ve hit Verlander well. They’ve hit Weaver well.

    • Kramerica Industries says:

      To do that requires baserunners in the first place.

      That has been the real problem in this game.

    • I will eat my hat if the Yankees face Felix Hernandez in the post season…btw for what feels like the 100th time, we’ve beaten Verlander, Wilson, Shields, Price, and a few others this season…by hitting the long ball.

    • jjyank says:

      This narrative has been debunked too many times for me too care.

    • 28 this year says:

      Also, if you look at the game, its been impossible to string hits together. So tell me, whats more likely a few singles to knock in a run or one mistake getting hit out? Small ball doesn’t do crap when no one can get on base.

    • Get Phelps Up says:

      There’s not much you can do when you only get 3 men on base in 7 innings. Sometimes you just run into a pitcher who is really fucking dominating.

    • Heisenberg's Hat says:

      Fallacies and conventional wisdom, all day long.
      This idea that home runs don’t play in the WS is nonsense.

  90. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    Another annoying commercial?
    The “If you see something, say something” one, where the middle aged white businessman is secretly a terrorist.

  91. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Robertson making Montero look feeble there.

  92. Bartolo's Colon says:

    hypothetical question. the m’s want to unload felix, what would it honestly take for the yanks to get him?

  93. jjyank says:

    Ichiro must be thinking “Fuck man, I don’t like playing AGAINST this guy.”

  94. The Real Greg says:

    Just tip your cap and move along.

    • Heisenberg's Hat says:

      The last two weeks of July were a “tip your cap-athon.”

    • Tom Q says:

      This is one day Giradi can say that and not get flak from anyone rational.

      It does kill you, though, that Kiroda pitched as well as he did, and one little two out single can mean the ballgame.

  95. CUYanks says:

    I will happy not face Felix again this year.

  96. Averaging 11 pitches per inning against one of the more patient teams in baseball. Seriously, he should win the Cy Young again this year.

  97. MartinRanger says:

    Losing a bit of velocity has honestly just made him better.

  98. OMG! Bagels! says:

    Just got home and read through the game thread. Did I read we’re not allowed to talk about broadcasters anymore?

  99. Mike N says:

    Why do I have a bad feeling about Rapada here?

  100. CUYanks says:

    It’s not looking great, but we still have Granderson/Jeter/Cano needing potentially only 1 run. Let’s just hope they can work a couple of walks or something to lead off.

  101. Mike N says:

    Kawasaki looks fucking bizarre with that moustache.

  102. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Is that a mustache or dirt on his lip?

  103. MartinRanger says:

    Damn Eric Thames. Can we have him instead of Ichiro?

  104. MartinRanger says:

    well this game will make the Yankees’ ERAs look nicer at least.

  105. CUYanks says:

    Let’s get a run off Felix here and make him pitch 10.

  106. Kramerica Industries says:

    Beat Felix now.

  107. OldYanksFan says:

    Does Cashman get some kudos for signing Ibanez (instead of JD, Matsui, etc) and Kuroda (he of 3.19 ERA)?

  108. RetroRob says:

    I have checked the splits, but it seems to me that Hernandez’s best games against the Yankees have been in the Bronx.

  109. Does Larry Vanover have a hot date tonight?

  110. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    Maybe Jeter will hit a game-tying homer here!

  111. MartinRanger says:

    man if he stays healthy, that slider is taking Felix straight to the Hall.

  112. Pat D says:

    I guess I’d better start hanging out in the game threads a tad more regularly again. Missed a fun discussion earlier, I see.

  113. Karl Krawfid says:

    This team isn’t clutch.

  114. Kramerica Industries says:

    Filth.

  115. RetroRob says:

    So when does the game start?

  116. Pat D says:

    Well that was total pwnage.

  117. Kevin G. says:

    guh, fuck

  118. Mike N says:

    Cap tipped.

  119. Karl Krawfid says:

    Another 1 run loss!

  120. MartinRanger says:

    Well at least is was an efficient loss.

    Better do better against Iwakuma tomorrow.

  121. Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

    Felix made the Yankees his bitches today.

  122. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    Come on, Bob.

  123. So now that Felix is warmed up from his simulated game, we’re going to start the real game right?

    • MartinRanger says:

      If only.

    • RetroRob says:

      About the only thing he can do better is give up two less hits.

      To answer my own question above, he’s now 4-1, with two shuts outs and basically an ERA of 1.10 in the Bronx, which means the Yankees have hit him fairly well in Seattle. Go figure.

  124. Mike N says:

    Let’s not forget, the Yanks pitched awesomely, too: Kuroda and the pen.

  125. Pat D says:

    I blame the announcers for this loss. All they did was talk about how great King Felix was.

  126. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    Losing to the guy they always lose to? Sucks.
    Losing when their own pitcher only gives up 1 run? Sucks even more.
    Losing to the guy who beaned three of them last week? Sucks the most.

    • Mike N says:

      I disagree with the second. I’m happier to at least see good Yankee pitching, than shitty pitching and shitty hitting.

      • MartinRanger says:

        Completely agree.

      • Heisenberg's Hat says:

        It’s just a matter of personal preference on that one.
        While it’s great to see Hiroki pitch so well, it’s incredibly frustrating to watch the entire game thinking “we just need ONE RUN here” and never getting it.

  127. teddy says:

    felix was great

  128. Kevin says:

    That was complete and total ownage.

  129. teddy says:

    mike carp dammm

  130. Matt says:

    Let’s be serious. Hernandez was good, but not THAT good today.

    His stuff was terrible for the first few innings of his game. His fastball was coming in at 91-92 and had no life on it. His arm was flying open and he was missing badly with his changeup to lefty hitters. He was falling behind on many hitters who were getting themselves out swinging at bad pitches ahead in the count.

    Think of Swisher’s and Martin’s ABs in this game. Every hitter was up there swinging out of their shoes trying to be the hero. From about inning number 5 on, he was lights out. But until then, he wasn’t. They gave away at bat after at bat and wasted a chance to do some real damage. And after that point, they were all swinging out of their shoes trying to be the hero and Hernandez did what any good pitcher would do to a lineup with a predictable approach.

    • Yankonymous says:

      “Think of Swisher’s and Martin’s ABs in this game. Every hitter was up there swinging out of their shoes trying to be the hero.”

      Yes, this! And definitely not just this game.

    • Heisenberg's Hat says:

      I’m more annoyed that they didn’t apply any pressure on those rare occasions when they actually had a baserunner. Granderson and Ichiro never even attempted a steal. Those were the only two chances at runs they had, not that they were great chances.

    • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

      So the Yankees lost because they were all trying to hit home runs. Interesting analysis.

      • Matt says:

        That is not what I said. What I said was that the hitters were all swinging out of their shoes (looking for fastballs), except Hernandez was not throwing them fastballs and was barely even using that pitch in the last few innings of the game. Many of the hitters (Swisher) did look like they were trying to go deep in those late inning AB’s, but some (Martin) just refused to make the adjustment even without that intent.

        • Get Phelps Up says:

          Wait…you say that you didn’t say that they were trying to hit homers and then you say they were “swinging out of their shoes?”

          • Matt says:

            The intent was “pulling off” of fastballs. Cano’s AB in the first inning was not an example because he took the ball to LCF. Other than Ichiro, most of the other hitters in the lineup were definitely pulling off.

          • Andy Pettitte's Fibula (formerly Manny's BanWagon) says:

            “swinging out of their shoes ….trying to be the hero” translates to trying to hit HRs

            • Matt says:

              And some of the hitters definitely were trying. Others just refused to adjust to his “all-offspeed” sequences even after 2 or 3 AB’s of it.

    • Pat D says:

      Haven’t seen you in a while.

      But let me ask you this. Are you going to show up when they win, or just when they lose, like you normally do?

      • Matt says:

        It’s usually not worth my time to argue with people who have no clue what they are talking about, but the cap tipping around here is just sickening. Hernandez was giving up a lot of line drives and was very erratic for the first half of this game. Credit is given when credit is deserved, but he only deserves it for the last 4 or so innings of his outing.

        • Get Phelps Up says:

          He gave up only 4 line drives all day according to the MLB.com PBP.

          • Matt says:

            Some of those fly balls, like Granderson’s in the 9th, were really more like F-Liners but were classified as just fly balls.

            The general point though was that they were hitting him pretty hard in the first few innings, but it was sandwiched around a bunch of bad AB’s that made it hard to score. 3 line drives in the first 2 innings, and Ichiro had a solid ground ball single in the 3rd.

      • Matt says:

        Also, I don’t really have much of a reason to show up regardless of the outcome. Very rarely does anything productive get discussed in these threads, whether the over-optimists (a win) or the over-pessimists (a loss). No matter what you say, somebody is going to attack you.

  131. teddy says:

    yanks divsion lead will be down to 5 tonight, they better start playing better

    • Pat D says:

      Even if Tampa wins, their lead will still be essentially 6 games.

      You know what other team has a lead that big right now? That’s right, nobody.

      • Heisenberg's Hat says:

        That doesn’t change the fact that it would behoove the Yankees to start playing better.

        • Pat D says:

          Of course. They can always play better. I didn’t expect them to win today, so I’m not going to get worried.

          I expect them to win tomorrow, however.

  132. Heisenberg's Hat says:

    Paul Olden makes Wayne Brady look like Isaac Hayes.

  133. Howard Spaeth says:

    Heres my blog on the yankees trying to change their future:
    http://fanjunkies.net/blogs/42.....thier-ways

    • Cuso says:

      You do realize Kuroda is on a 1-year deal, right?

      When you lump together a list of players in the first persuasive paragraph in your article that is inherently wrong, it’s difficult to read the entire story with an open, receptive mind.

    • Cuso says:

      Spelling the word “their” correctly in your blog title could help, too.

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