Game 139: Tex Returns
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(AP)
After ten games on the shelf with a left calf strain, Mark Teixeira is back in the Yankees lineup tonight … assuming they actually play. The weather forecast in Baltimore is abysmal, though there may be a two or three hour window to get the game in at some point. If the game is postponed for whatever reason, expect them to play a doubleheader tomorrow despite Monday’s mutual off-day — the Ravens are hosting Monday Night Football and the two stadiums share parking facilities. Anyway, here’s the tentative starting nine…
SS Derek Jeter
RF Nick Swisher
1B Mark Teixeira
DH Alex Rodriguez
2B Robinson Cano
C Russell Martin
LF Andruw Jones
CF Ichiro Suzuki
3B Jayson Nix
LHP CC Sabathia
Tonight’s game is scheduled to start a little after 7pm ET, but who knows. If they play, you can watch on YES locally and MLB Network nationally. Enjoy.
Ivan Nova Update: Nova (shoulder) has been activated off the DL and will be available out of the bullpen today and tomorrow. Barring extra innings or something like that tonight, I’m guessing Joe Girardi will have a quick hook with Freddy Garcia tomorrow and use Nova as his caddy.
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Horray for lineup depth.
Go Yankees!
The Orioles are doing the Yankees a favor by sitting Wieters against a lefty.
Get it done tonight Big Man. You got this.
Just seeing again all the pitching CC did (on MLB) has me SMH.
I really like this lineup.
not psyched to watch andruw jones dogging it out there but granderson needs a day off like nobody’s business.
Sabathia vs Saunders favors us greatly. Teixera and the offense are back so this game must be won because who knows what we’ll get from our starter tomorrow.
line up and starting pitcher both favor the Yankees. gotta get a win tonight, don’t want to go into tomorrow hoping Freddy can get us a win for a split.
I wonder if everyone who absolutely killed Jeter for being washed up are happy about the Captain, or secretly bummed that they were proven so utterly, completely wrong.
I’m thrilled.
I wonder if the people who didn’t think Jeter was done are now coming back a year and a half later to gloat.
I wouldn’t call it gloating, I would call it “I told you so-ing.”
if you are secretly bummed about Jeter being good at 38 years old please go root for another team
nice to have Teix back
Jeter was a dead man, good hold. Now push those runs across, Alex.
Great AB from Alex
Sac fly we’ll take it. Now plate Tex let’s go.
I’m kind of worried that there will be a long delay in like the third inning and we will lose CC.
Cano just swung at every pitch out of the zone…
nice ab arod. par the usual horrible ab by the great cano.. he f–kin sucks. he is a joke…
down to 300 with 73 rbi’s man who is worse him or swisher it is a close contest of ineptitude……
what would we do without stewie at his cano RBI count!
ike davis is clearly worse……
down to 300?
I know it’s left on left but Cano shouldn’t look that bad against Joe Saunders.
Hey guys…just got back from a long road trip from Boston. For anyone in the DC/Baltimore area, any idea why MASN isn’t showing the game? I’m blacked out on MLB.TV because I’m in market, yet the in market channel isn’t showing the game.
It is on MASN2. The Nats game ran late due to weather so they moved the Orioles game.
Oh, thanks. I didn’t even bother looking there because the Comcast Guide button labeled it as “College Football”. Many thanks.
wooo Ichiro being productive!!
Haha yay Ichiro! Looked like Jones may have taken a bad route there, but I’ll take it.
I still say Ichiro is the best trade Cashman ever made. Two big hits this series already.
If Ichiro was the best Cashman trade ever, he should be fired before the season ends.
Thankfully, you’re delusional.
Ichiro!
Maybe its just me, but it looks like the ump is giving us quite a few calls. Haven’t really been paying as much attention during the Orioles at-bats.
what was Nix looking for on 3-2?
Clearly not the fastball, that was a pitch that should have been crushed
Are you joking me.
all Reynolds does is crush mistakes and they keep throwing him mistakes over the middle.
Maybe try something other than fastball down the middle against Reynolds.
Bullshit, right down the middle is impossible to hit.
A Reynolds HR, wouldn’t you know it.
Step the fuck up CC.
CC is such a piece of shit. a HR to Lew Ford? you fat fuck.
Lew Ford1?!
CC has not been keeping leads lately…..
He hasn’t done jack shit lately, when we need him most.
There are definitely days when I feel more confident in Kuroda coming to the mound rather than CC.
Damn. CC fu*king sucks.
Great, another bullshit effort from the supposed “ace” of our staff.
Archer is looking nasty for Tampa. their SP is bordering on ridiculous, they could almost fill out 2 entire above average staffs with Neimann and Price healthy.
Andrew Friedman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cashman.
Years of sucking makes a GMs job a tad easier
They haven’t sucked in a very long time.
Shields, Price, Niemann, Davis were all top ten picks and/or drafted before Friedman became GM.
every pitcher you tout comes from a draft pick from when they sucked
5 years is a very long time?
We should suck for years so we can get high picks to make an ace pitching staff
$20+ million per year and and he’s throwing batting practice out there. Pathetic.
So I just get home, and the first thing I see are back-to-back home runs.
Reynolds again.
Unreal.
It is inexcusable to be throwing Reynolds fastballs at this point.
You have seen him two weekends in a row, and you know he is beating you on that fastball out over the plate over and over again.
Every time that a pitcher gives up a home run on a fastball away to Reynolds, Martin should be fined $10,000. The bottom line is that you know you can’t get him out on that pitch, yet you continue to go to it. Yes, a well located fastball will get him out, but why even risk it? Just throw him junk and walk him if you have to.
fine Martin?
Because a veteran ace can’t figure out what pitches to throw?
Reynolds has taken a lot more pitchers deep on that pitch than CC in the last 2 series they have played against Baltimore.
Martin continues to call fastballs away to him no matter who is on the mound. With a hot hitter like that, you are just helping him out by allowing him to extend his arms.
A veteran pitcher has not been on the mound for 5 games and seen what this hitter is doing. CC didn’t even pitch against them in the last series. It is up to the catcher to guide him through the game, and he has failed repeatedly to get his pitchers to pitch carefully to Reynolds.
They are going right after him like he is any hitter in that lineup. Unacceptable.
CC hasn’t noticed all the Home Runs Reynolds has hit?
CC doesn’t get a scouting report before the game?
Bullshit.
If it was a rookie or young pitcher, I’d agree.
CC is supposed to be a veteran ace. He shouldn’t need to rely on a catcher to “guide” him through the game.
This is not about the home run tonight. How many home runs has Reynolds hit against them?
Again, the pitcher has not seen the hitters for 5 games in the last week. The pitcher is not going to watch the game with the same kind of intensity while he is sitting on the dugout bench as he would on the mound.
Reading the scouting report and watching video can only get you so far. The catcher has been behind the plate and seen the quality of swings he has taken. He knows what pitches have worked previously and what haven’t.
Hearing the guy is “hot” doesn’t mean much if the pitcher thinks he can get anyone out (like an ace should). It is up to the catcher to explain to him that in this case, “hot” means “he will hit ANY mistake you make.” Even the smallest mistake. You have to pitch EXTRA carefully to this guy, more so than usual, and more than you want to do as an ace.
Putting all the blame on the pitcher is nonsense. The two of them work together out there to get through a game. The catcher has a huge influence on pitch selection, and also knows the hitters better than the pitcher since this is game 3 of the series.
“Putting all the blame on the pitcher is nonsense.”
You were putting all of the blame on Martin and none of it on the pitchers. That is even bigger nonsense, especially with a veteran ace on the mound.
That’s because MARTIN, and not SABATHIA, has been sitting behind the plate for most of the games in the last week in which Reynolds has been DESTROYING the pitching staff.
Sabathia is going to think he can get anybody out. He is going to go right after them with a bulldog mentality. And that’s USUALLY nice. But not when the guy is DESTROYING the pitching staff. It is up to MARTIN to bring him back to earth.
This is clearly something that MARTIN is responsible for, and not SABATHIA. Martin is as much a manager as a catcher when he is behind the plate. It doesn’t matter if CC calls his own pitches. It’s up to Martin to persuade him to be more careful to Reynolds, and he failed.
Oh I get it. It’s up to the shitty catcher to hold the hand of the 24M dollar pitcher. Because CC needs a babysitter. He is not at all responsible for intelligent pitch selection or actually executing the pitches that are called for or being aware of how to get out the opposing hitters. Got it.
You have no clue what you are talking about. These guys are people as well as pitchers. CC thinks he can get anyone out. You don’t want him to challenge Mark Reynolds right now, especially with diminished stuff.
CC does not have a 100 mph fastball like Verlander, and also does not have good stuff tonight. If you don’t understand how this is the catcher’s responsibility, you are beyond hope.
If you think the pitcher bears no responsibility, as well as the pitching coach in the scouting meetings, you are oblivious. Martin is part of the problem. CC bears equal responsibilty, especially since he missed badly on the pitch. Maybe Martin though CC could actually locate his fastball. Silly Martin thinking the team ace could execute a pitch. He should be DFA’s immediately.
I say cut Sabathia!
Lew Ford? Ouch. CC is not an ace this season.
DFA CC.
Reynolds has always mashed lefties. The problem I have is giving up the homer to Ford.
And I don’t get why they keep pitching to Reynolds. It’s pathetic.
Seriously. Isn’t it about time someone drilled the guy?
We need Clemens back.
Mark Reynolds is just doing his job. There’s no reason to hit him with the ball. Just get him OUT.
He’s WAY too comfortable there. Obviously the Yankees have no idea how to get him out so it’s time to go old school
That’s macho bullshit. Pitch him inside, fine. I have no problem with that.
Hitting the guy on purpose is the coward’s way out. Get him out the right way, don’t put him on base because you’re afraid of him hitting your pitches.
Agreed. The Yankees need to win games, not give free base runners.
Serving up homer after homer to Reynolds and crew isn’t gonna win you games either.
All throughout history, intimidating pitchers from Bob Gibson to Don Drysdale to Nolan Ryan to Clemens have been doing that so don’t give me machismo BS argument.
I’m not saying hit him in the head but a ball in the ribs to make him a little uncomfortable up there has been an accepted part of the game forever.
But Reynolds is in no way invading the plate. If it is deserved, ok, go ahead and hit him, Showalter knows when one of his guys did something wrong and won’t retaliate, but if you hit him just for being good, you’re risking our guys in a stupid stupid way.
I don’t understand why they keep throwing pitches that, if they miss with, will end up right down the middle. Hughes finally realized that last night when he was throwing the slider, if he missed it was way outside and Reynolds couldn’t do anything with it.
Most of the time is because a pitcher wants to send a “message” against the batter: “my fastball is better than all the other fastballs you homered”… but almost every time it fails, at least with the Yankees who have not had a really dominant “Cy Young” type of pitcher since **gulp** Roger Clemens.
Yeah, the Yankees haven’t recorded a strikeout with a fastball since Clemens.
Last night Reynolds was 0-4 with 2Ks
CC is SUCH an ace, I mean, look at all those innings he eats! Along with ribs, Cap’n Crunch, Nutella and bacon sanswiches, etc.
We’re not supposed to talk about that here.
Just talk about him being amazing and totally respecting his job enough to get in shape.
The fuck is up with Orioles hitting so many homeruns. People can say CC is not an ace or w/e, but they have hit homeruns off Soriano and D-Rob. Also off Eppley who has a 60% groundball rate. Basically every other ball in the air is a homerun this series. That is just weird.
Its okay. They won’t make it very far. Homeruns are unsustainable in the postseason
They’re fastball hitters, most of those homeruns have been against the fastball in a park where the ball can “travel” quite a bit for just enough homeruns a-la-short porch in Yankee Stadium.
Throw them fastballs and most of the time they’ll smash ‘em.
I suppose Saunders throws a nice tidy shutdown inning here now.
And there it is.
We ALL saw that coming . . . Yankees score early and then shut it all down.
Like the last two games?
They scored early yesterday? No. Fourth and Fifth innings, not what I would constitute as EARLY!
You first said they score early and then said they don’t. Can you make up your mind?
WTF? Are you confusing me with another troll? 4th and 5th are middle innings. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are the early goings . . .
As if the last two games are indicative of their play over the last month.
Bottom 4 OBP’s for the Orioles: .250, .301, .229, .171 – - – This lineup should never win. CC HAS TO do better!
Well, except for Ichiro, 3 the NYY hitters have more K’s than hits this season, and lousy OBPs:
Martin 0.306 OBP, 72 H, 74 K’s
Jones 0.289 OBP, 44 H, 67 K’s
Ichiro 0.313 OBP, 41 H, 15 K’s
Nix 0.313 OBP, 38 H, 45 K’s
In 44 games Ichiro has almost the same amount of hits Jones has through 82 games.
Talk about stupid pitch calling (Sabathia+Martin)
- Why are they throwing ANY fastballs to Reynolds?
- Then they are throwing offspeed shit to a guy hitting .180? Because a hitter of that quality you have to fool when behind in the count? 2-0 change followed by 2-1 get me over slider?
- Steve Babe Ruth Tolleson should not be started changeup, changeup – the guy is hitting .185 for a reason
You challenge the crappy hitters and pitch backward to the good hitters. For some reason they are doing it the other way around.
Next on the bench? Swisher. Plop him next to Kurtis. That guy is in need of a serious mental vacation.
You can’t bench everybody. And you can’t hit everybody 9th. This team just is what it is.
No. They can bench Swisher. Dickerson, Ibanez, and Ichiro are all upgrades over the present day Nick Swisher.
Well anyone is an upgrade over a guy who’s 0-22, obviously. But have you watched Ibanez and Ichiro lately? Hardly an improvement.
Ichiro’s been decent and I like Dickerson, personally. Swisher needs a spiritual breather.
Ichiro has been a below average hitter as a Yankees and even worse over the last year and a half of his Seattle career.
In order to be in first place at weekend’s end, this is pretty much a must-win game.
Can’t have faith in Freddy tomorrow with how poor he’s been of late. And this is such a lopsided matchup tonight. Would really speak of volumes of this team if they lose.
lol
I don’t see what’s so funny about what he said. It’s true. This is the O’s C-level lineup. The Yankees have their apparent “Ace” on the mound. It’s as must win as the Yankees can declare at the moment. On paper there’s no reason WHY the Yankees should lose . . .
You don’t know what must win means.
Context.
I didn’t say this was a must-win game to keep the season alive, or anything. Re-read what the hell I said.
We can lose today and still be in first place after tomorrow.
OMG, really? The Yankees have been struggling MIGHTILY over the past two months. They’re finally starting to piece things together. This win, right now, provides just that little, extra bit of breathing room. The Yankees need to win the division and beating the Orioles RIGHT NOW would certainly help in accomplishing that. Are the Yankees down 0-3 in the WS? No. If that’s how you want to define a MUST WIN, then fine, be my guest, but as of now, taking ALL factors into account, there is NO reason why the Yankees SHOULD NOT win tonight. That is why I (in addition to Kramerica) have decided to label game 139 a MUST WIN. To lose tonight would damn near be unforgivable. This is CC on the mound, not Freddy or Nova . . .
Unfortunately this version of CC is just no great shakes. It’s been proven time and again. He doesn’t put the team on his back and carry them. He’s just another guy at this point.
I know, but on paper, there is absolutely NO reason why this game shouldn’t be won. AND (AND!) Yankee-Killer Weiters is out of the lineup!
But the Yanks have been losing plenty of these Can’t Lose games. They’ve found many many ways to lose.
Swisher will not hit 200 over the last23 games. He cannot hit under pressure
Is Chris Archer still looking nasty?
What an ace.
my god is CC such an overrated turd this year.
Fuck you CC.
#notnearlyanace
CC is nothing better than a middle of the road starter now. He’s throwing piddly 91 mph fastballs and getting beat by scrubs. Andy needs to get back quick and be that ace that we need at the top of the staff.
C’mon now, CC.
You know what?
CC is still injured.
I’m starting to hate CC.
CC hasnt been the same since the 2nd DL stint
If CC loses this game he can go gobble on a fat dick.
Ive defended CC alot lately especially after his start in Tampa earlier this week but Jesus Christ this is fucking awful tonight.
So our ace gets roped meanwhile we cant hit Fucking Saunders.
CC is either hurt or still hesitating to let it loose.
He is not finishing his pitches, and they are high in the zone and flat. He looks like he is overthrowing trying to generate extra life, and his fastball is only 91-92 with very little movement. His slider is terrible right now, and has little downward movement on it.
I wonder if his elbow is still bothering him? He doesn’t look free and easy right now.
If this is how CC’s going to pitch the rest of the year, we’re in serious trouble.
Again – 91-93mph fastballs to the good hitters… but throw offspeed stuff to Lew Ford and Steve Tolleson. Teagarden is getting a 3-1 change yet let’s challenge Mark Reynolds and Hardy with fastballs?
Who the hell is doing the scouting reports?
The pitch selection is ridiculous, yes CC is missing spots, but when you call the wrong pitch AND miss you give up runs. You can’t just look at this lineup and say who am I challenging with fastballs and who am I pitching carefully too?
All of a sudden Saunders looks good. Fuck you CC
Please offense . . . Please pound the shit out of Saunders. I think CC would thoroughly appreciate the assistance.
And Cano’s BA drops below .300
He’s been getting himself out for the last 6 weeks, what did you expect?
And now the lineup goes to sleep. Great.
You know guys, you really pounded the O’s yesterday. Go ahead offense, take the night off.
Sweet dreams, offense. See you tomorrow. Hopefully.
8 straight retired should NEVER happen against Joe Saunders.
With this team it should, and did.
Eight straight retired by Saunders.
This has got to stop as well.
Feces Sabathia.
Saunders: 2 IP – nearly 50 pitches. 4 IP – 71 pitches. This has happened FAR too often this season . . .
It started with Jeter.
Saunders was pushing 50 pitches with 2 out in the 2nd and Jeter of course is hacking at the first pitch to end the innings. I know he likes first pitch fastballs, but understand the game situation.
Saunders should have been done after 4 or 5 innings. After almost every hitter working him over the 1st time around the lineup with long AB’s, only Tex has put together a long AB against him the 2nd time around. They did not take a single called strike in the 4th inning… because you can’t afford to get behind the dangerous Joe Saunders.
You’d think they’d be pounding a junk balling crap pitcher in a bandbox like camden yards.
wow andrew is really mashing.
So who’s calling a double-shot kind of night for Mark “Latte” Reynolds?
What do you think Alex and Casey are discussing?
I don’t want to hear any more crap about CC’s innings pitched or his peripherals. He has NOT gotten it done. These games are so important, and he’s been a zero.
I can’t tell (because I have none of the video feeds) but it seems like CC’s really laboring through this lineup . . . Do I sense an inability to put the batters away?
Or has he just been extremely inaccurate again?
CC hasn’t been as good as we hoped he would so far this season, but he has a 3.50 ERA. He’s not some turd.
Given up the lead last 3 starts. He has labored since the Cleveland outing. Tonight no bite on the breaking ball, and trouble controlling it. FB around 92. Not good.
He’s not as bad as Nova, of course. But he hasn’t done enough in these crucial games. Games we have to have. He’s coughed up leads like they’re going out of style, 3.50 ERA or no.
Holy shit CC got ford out!
And I thought this was going to be an enjoyable game.
I don’t know what’s up w/CC – we don’t know what’s up w/CC but if this is the beginning of the decline we have a l-o-n-g decline to watch. I keep thinking either there is something wrong or like the special they had on MLB network before the game — he just pitched too many innings.
And our guys aren’t mashing like they used to either.
Time to take Saunders behind the woodshed
My impression most of the year has been that he’s just not throwing as fast as we’re used to seeing him,whatever might be the cause (Father Time, innings overdose, or injury). Didn’t he used to dial it up a lot higher than we’ve been seeing most of the year?
CC has been Meh…but can someone please hit Joe Saunders?
Shitty at bat after shitty at bat.
Come the fuck ON, offense.
If Joe Saunders has a quality start against the Yankees my brain will melt out through my ears.
Joe fucking saunders. Are you kidding me.
This has the potential to be a terribly agonizing and painfully detestable kind of game. If they can’t hit Joe Saunders . . . . Jesus Montero.
3d time around time to fuck this guy up. Let’s go
They need to hit and hit now before it gets rained out
One more out and they’re liable to call the ballgame as a win for the Os. We need to at least tie it up to take the power out of Bud’s hands.
10 Yankees in a row have been retired by this totally mediocre pitcher.
The O’s are also schooling the “Bronx Bombers” in the art of hitting home runs. Very embarrassing all around.
A HR would be nice here.
Never EVER say that to Swisher. He will swing so far out of his cleats that he’ll be sitting back in the Yankee Stadium dugout.
I would’be been happy with just a hit or a walk.
Oh Mo, Swisher is up . . . .
at least Jeter cleared the Swish instead of having him start the next inning.
True, but then there’s the suddenly unpredictable Cano . . . I miss Brett Gardner
Oh well at least jeter got swisher out of the way for next inning.
And Swish continues to suck.
What is Swisher up to now, 0 for last 21 or so??
2-0 meatball and Swisher hits a lazy fly. Bench him tomorrow and play Dickerson. At least get him out of the #2 spot.
Swisher is so goddamn useless. Completely wasting Jeter’s hot hitting by being an automatic out.
7 hole has swisher’s name on it.
Orioles have Taylor Teagarden???? He’s my favorite player!!!
The Yankees are missing mistake pitches RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE in hitter’s counts. That is the bottom line.
Opposing teams are not pitching well against us. We’re just getting ourselves out on awful pitches. Every hitter in that inning before Swisher swung at a pitch that was almost in the dirt to get themselves out.
Never liked Swisher in the 2 hole. Strikes out way too much. He shot his 3 week hot streak load last month and he’s going to slide into October at .230
That should cut into the claim he’s worth Werth dough.
I swear the 2 hole is cursed this year.
It’s broke.
Why didn’t CC do that to Mark Reynolds?
According to Sweeny Murti Swisher’s last hit was on Sunday. He is 0 for the freaking week and its Saturday already. Picked a good week too.
If CC gave up a HR to Andino that would have been the end of the season right then and there.
CC is making a lot of mistakes. It could be much worse than 3-2.
If CC is hurt, they need to sit him out for a start or two and get him right. He is not helping the team by going out there and pitching through it. He has been lucky tonight to only give up 3 runs. A better offensive club without 3 automatic outs would have lit him up tonight.
It’d be nice for the offense to score some goddamn runs.
Excellent AB by Tex.
Lets not see this one wasted on a GIDP.
The pitch calling is just insane. 4 changeups to .219 hitting Andino? Lucky that wasn’t 2 more runs.
It seems like they’ve been feeding offspeed stuff to every hitter at or under .200 leading to long counts, wasted pitches and a HR to Lew Ford.
And then feeding fastballs to the competent hitters. HR to Reynolds, Hardy double.
The approach is curious to say the least.
Did he just say that he has pitchers up JUST-IN-CASE?
I thought Alex said this team would score 6 runs a night. Got 4 more to go.
Orioles are hitting pop ups out of this park. ARod hits two long fly balls that dies on the warning track.
Pound the bullpen.
I was totally expecting Reynolds to turn an amazing double play
I expected the ball to do a u-turn and fly back into his glove.
Two slowest Yankee runners on base. Better hit one out Martin.
Brutal.
Why not stay w/O’Day – Curits isn’t hitting anyway, right?
Wow… Bringing in Kurtis with the game potentially on the line . . . . FUKKKK
I know it’s the 6th inning, but aren’t you carrying 3 catchers on the roster so you can pinch hit?
2 on, 1 out, down 1 run seems like a pretty decent high leverage spot to get a lefty bat up.
Curtis Granderson? Do JoeG wants more K’s or what?
Kurtis strikes out against a ROOGY.
Wow.
fucking lame.
“Well…didn’t see that one coming!”
Said by nobody on here.
A roogy and you strike out, so sad
So the offense is now just Jeter and the two guys off the DL? Cool.
Granderson should just retire so Joe can’t use him anymore.
Kurtis “Special K.” Granderson.
Fuck Kurtis.
WOW KKKKKKKKKurtis Granderson struck out, I certainly did not see that one coming… =/
I can’t even imagine the pain of being a Pirate’s fan because this is excruciating.
I don’t see how you bring back Granderson. Offer sheet him and let him strikeout 30% of the time somewhere else.
78 mph, flat slider, up in the zone. Two guys struck out on that pitch, including a left handed hitter.
This is pathetic.
Girardi’s binder bullshit strikes again.
And the award for worst player on the Yankees goes to . . . . “Andruw, sit the fu*k down. Ladies and Gentlemen, Curtis “The K” Granderson!” – - – Tumultuous applause, the crowd goes wild!
Where did CC hit Markakis? Is he out for a while?
Now CC gives up a couple more to put it out of reach
Done
The fucking ace coughs up another jack.
Jesus.
Fuck CC.
Fuck CC.
Fuck CC.
And oh yeah, fuck CC.
I swear to god CC is the fucking $20mil biggest turd ever. you CAN’T give up 3 fucking HRs.
No, that title belongs to A-rod.
Another big game that CC comes up small.
Hahahaha so bad.
Just when I thought I could believe in this team again . . . This game happens.
Jesus all they do is hit homeruns off our pitching
And that’ll be it, folks. The season rests on the right arm of Freddy Garcia tomorrow because our supposed ace couldn’t do a damn thing tonight.
The Dodgers wanted CC and Teix. Just sayin’
Would have never happened. Tex has a no trade clause and there was no way he would wave it to play for the Dodgers.
The Yankees are a home run hitting team that doesn’t hit home runs anymore. This is on the offense. CC is not great, but he’s keeping them more than within reach of this game. They have done NOTHING since he gave up a few runs. Half the lineup is giving away at bats swinging at garbage, and it’s hard for 2 guys (Teix/A-Rod) to carry the entire lineup.
I don’t use twitter but if any of you do please, please, please ask a reporter to ask what’s up w/CC?
They ask him that literally every time CC has a bad start.
So..pretty much 3 out of every 4 games these days?
Not all on CC, the offense has been horrible against mediocre pitching
When did Hughes gain so much weight?
That was funny
CC: kill yourself.
You people have issues…
He has to be hurt.
C.C. really trying to put it out of reach now.
Take this clown out of the rotation and put Nova back in.
Hey look let’s keep feeding JJ Hardy and Mark Reynolds fastballs.
But we’ll throw 3-1 changeups to Taylor Teagarden and RObert Andino
Who the hell is responsible for the pitch selection… either CC or Martin should be yanked from the game for this bullshit (or both)
They throw 4 changeups to a guy hitting .219, and feed fastballs to the 2 or 3 competent hitters in the lineup. This battery has the baseball IQ of a 4 year old.
A base open, Mark Reynolds up, nobody else in the lineup that is even a major league caliber hitter after him.
Of course they will pitch to him.
Well, screw this game. Better off watching college FB.
Wow. I just realized this . . . Because I haven’t felt this way ever it’s kind of a big deal, I now have no faith in CC. I don’t necessarily cringe on the days that he pitches, but I now have no confidence that he can shut down the opposing lineup. This season is playing serious fu*king head games with my outlook on the team . . .
He’s basically an AINO… Ace in Name Only…
he’s got to be hurt
Hey look Joba’s up.
C.C. has been on the DL twice this year.
He’s still managed to surrender a career high in home runs.
And now CC and Martin can’t get on the same page. If Stewart has to personal catch CC so be it. If that can’t fix it then we’re screwed and hopefully the Dodgers still want him.
CC hung another pitch to Reynolds and was lucky he didn’t hit that one out as well.
Why in the world would you pitch to him in that situation?
Girardi is terrible.
Girardi has what you call, “blind faith” – He plays to the back of the baseball card. It’s the same reason that he’ll pinch hit Granderson . . .
Lew Ford is killing this team.
God they suck right now.
Poor Jeter. He deserves better.
So….Anyone want to defend CC now?
LEW FORD!!!!!!!!!!!
He’s the Orioles own Ciriaco. CC pitching like it’s the 2007 ALCS all over again.
LOL! Lew Ford has dominated our ace. Get this clown out of there already.
Lew Ford AGAIN!?!
Hey, look at what happens when you put the ball in play with a runner on base.
Our Yankees. A home run hitting team that not only does not hit home runs, but also doesn’t put the ball in play with runners on base to even give themselves a chance to score in other ways.
Remember what Girardi said, “We’re a homerun hitting team. That’s what we do.” – Apparently the binder never computed what to do when the homeruns stop flying. I strictly recall hating the tits off Joe when he made a similar comment.
Ford, tonight’s Baltimore scrub that does the damage
only 4 or 5 more years of running this fat turd out there as our ace so he can get outpitched by Joe Saunders
Waiting for the inevitable CC to miss next start due to some type of injury. Just no way he is healthy right now.
I’m hoping he’s hurt at this point in time.
He’s been anything but ace-like for quite a while now. He’s not even keeping his team in the friggen game right now.
This is the same Darren O’Day the Mets released and the Rangers released.
And what makes that interesting is that when they (Mets) released him Rick Peterson was there and now Peterson is w/the O’s so something has changed because it’s all about Peterson’s philosophy.
13 of the 40 home runs that Reynolds and Hardy have hit this year have come against the Yankees.
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Yankees keep sending lefties to the plate against a ROOGY, and can’t touch him. This is humilating.
CC sucked..but getting only 2 runs from the offense is pretty terrible by it’s own right.
Way to swing at a god awful pitch Chavez.
They better fire Long in the offseason. He’s a terrible hitting coach.
Hurt or not this was a pathetic performance by CC. If he’s hurt he shouldn’t be pitching. The O’s had 6 hitters in this lineup batting .233 or less.
CC should have coasted through 7 or 8 innings against a lineup featuring Lew Ford, Taylor Teagarden, Robert Andino and Steve Tolleson. JJ Hardy is one of the “good” hitters in this lineup. Pretty much Adam Jones and Mark Reynolds are the only guys to really worry about (Markasis lefty on lefty should not have been an issue)
Crappy pitch selection coupled with crappy command = 6 bad innings against a terrible lineup.
I guess we can take it as a general rule that when the YES scouting report describes a pitcher as a “not overpowering, breaking ball” type the Yankees will do absolutely nothing the entire game.
By the by – tie game in St. Pete.
Nothing is working for the offense today. Next we have an Auto out in swisher, and then pray Tex and Arod get hold of one.
Hey! Remember when 3 runs was a mere pussy differential, when the Yankees, of their Herculean prowess and Socratic wisdom, could mash double digit runs like they were soggy potatoes? I don’t
this is pathetic. It’s like they win a game and they’re like “oh ok everything’s good, everybody relax” and they get shit on in the next game. They haven’t won back to back games since August 14th and 15th.
Well looks like Verlander isn’t an Ace either today.
Difference being, it’s not a consistent thing for Verlander. If Verlander were doing the same things that CC as, you’d have a point. One game no.
It’s a metaphor for a shit team
CC and “big game” or “must win” don’t go hand in hand. I posted this morning he needed to go 8 and give up no more than 2 runs, especially considering the BP is on fumes. Not to my surprise, CC gets a 2-0 lead and shits the bed. Again. But I’m sure the CC apologists will come up with some lame excuse for his sub par performance. 4 more years of this guy at over $20M per. Yikes.
You’re right, we’ll be better off without CC. Hughes and Nova can be our number 1 and 2 next year.
Well, CC certainly isn’t a number 1. But you go ahead and keep believing he is. That’s fine.
So we’ll be better off without him? He had an off year. Oh no, he’s done for his career.
I never said his career is over or that he’s done. He’s durable, he’s just not a shut down ace who can win a must game. Check back with me in 4 years. I’m betting it’s not pretty.
One bad injury laden season. Lets go ignore the guy’s career worth of work or the fact he was looking fine midseason before his injuries.
Five more years of this guy actually.
Wait, 2 runs in the first two innings then nothing the rest of the way? No, this is not the 2012 New York Yankees that I know
I called it earlier, just like I do whenever the Yankees score TWO in the early goings. Whenever they strike quickly and a magical two appears on the scoreboard . . . prepare for yet another god-awful lead-forfeit and offensive slumber.
F*CK! How I desperately want to eat my words!!!!! DAMNIT! F*ck last night’s game!!! That sh*t gave me hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hard to blame CC when you’ve scored just 2 runs against Joe Saunders and Darren O’Day.
Unless he pitched lights out, they probably would have still lost this game.
Easy to blame CC when he gives up 5 runs (at least) to a shitty lineup in a big game. No reason to choose. Both the offense and CC sucked.
And if the offense did its job against Saunders, it might not have mattered.
CC has done more than enough for this team to put it in position to make the playoffs. The OFFENSE has crapped the bed almost all season. These guys are entitled to a few bad starts. The offense has been terrible all season outside of a few games in the middle of June.
Currently second in AL in R/g. The offense hasn’t been terrible all season. It was terrible for a stretch in May, and terrible for a stretch recently.
None of that has any bearing on who gets blame for this game. The offense not stepping up isn’t an excuse for CC not stepping up. Both aren’t getting the job done recently. Both CC and the offense are underachieving this year.
We are likely going to find out after this game or very soon that CC has been pitching through continuing stiffness in his elbow or something of that sort.
It’s so obvious that he is not 100% physically. Watch his mechanics, his stuff, and his location. This is not “ace” CC Sabathia. He can’t do it, physically, right now.
You are seriously citing R/G? You can’t be serious. This team is incredibly streaky. Scoring 10 runs and then 2 is an average of 6 per game, but probably a .500 record.
“You are seriously citing R/G? You can’t be serious. This team is incredibly streaky. Scoring 10 runs and then 2 is an average of 6 per game, but probably a .500 record.”
That might be interesting if it actually applied to the Yankees performance this year. They rarely have big scoring games. MLB average is 4.35 r/g. The Yankees have been held below that (4 runs or fewer) less than any other playoff contender.
And Girardi gets an honorable mention.
And again, if you score just 2 runs, think of how well CC would have had to pitch to win this game.
Against a hot Baltimore team, in Camden Yards, it’s not likely that he’s going to pitch 8 IP 1 R, even if he’s going well.
Against this lineup, holding them to 2 runs and making it a bullpen game is hardly asking too much of an ace. The offense has been horrible this game. That doesn’t excuse CC being horrible as well.
The Yankees are still going to lose a bullpen game, because their bullpen is TERRIBLE.
Again, this team cannot win a game in which you score just 2 runs. It is on the offense. CC’s performance is irrelevant if you don’t score enough runs to mean that the outcome would have been different if he had pitched well.
CC did not pitch well, but he is not the reason they are going to lose this game. Blaming him is pointless because he had little impact on the outcome of tonight’s game.
CC’s performance is not remotely irrelevant. The more runs he gives up, they less chance they have to win. His performance had a big impact on this game. If you think a starter giving up 5 runs doesn’t impact their chances of winning the game, you are simply a moron.
I thought he’s an ace. An ace is supposed to shut done a team when it’s a close game. Hell, I would have been happy with him giving up 2 runs in 7-8 innings. This is on him, plain and simple.
He’s not 100% right now. It’s so obvious when you watch his mechanics and the way he’s pitching.
But he’s been keeping them in the game, and the offense is doing NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING. Against Joe Saunders. He’s doing the most that he can do with his diminished stuff right now, which is probably due to an injury that he’s hiding.
CC is not going to pitch like an ace right now, because he physically can’t. And even if he was pitching like an ace, you’re expecting him to win a game 2-0 or 2-1, which he didn’t do very often even when he was pitching well.
He’s given up at least 5 runs in 4 of his last 7 starts. That’s not keeping them in the game. Maybe he is hurt. Whatever the reason, he’s not getting the job done. Neither is the offense.
I never said CC is pitching well.
However, CC’s performance is not losing them games because the OFFENSE is not scoring. It wouldn’t matter if he was pitching well or pitching poorly, because the outcome would not be different without the offense showing up.
You are completely missing the point.
Aces sometimes pitch shutouts or 1 run games. Or even a two or three run game might have been good enough for this struggling offense to win.
CC’s performance is absolutely contributing to them losing games.
You’re making my argument by saying even when healthy, he didn’t win many 2-0 or 2-1 games. And how does giving up 5 runs in 6+ innings keeping his team in the game? Last I checked, that’s not even a quality start.
CC had nothing tonight. NOTHING. He hasn’t had much since coming off the DL.
It’s pointless to blame a guy who physically cannot play at the same level we expect from him. It’s up to the team to skip him for a start if they think he’s hiding something.
oh, another double for Nate fucking Mclouth.
This team’s total inability to contain Nate fuckin’ McLouth is just another indictment against them in this series.
The sad thing here is that this is what we have to look forward to for the next several years – a la the 2005-2008 Yankees. Overpriced free agents towards the end of their careers; slow, plotting teams, station to station baseball with homerun-or-nothing hitters, old pitchers, and no one in the farm system worth dick that we’ll actually see make an impact in the next year or two. Fantastic
We have a lot of players on the farm that could make an impact in the next year or two. They just need to be given an opportunity.
Ehhh, anyone in 2013 or 2014? I used to thing Betances and Banuelos but…
It wouldn’t matter if the Yankees have good players in their farm, you won’t see them taking the place of a multi-millionaire in the big leagues.
“What would people say if a young kid outplayed the 20 million “star” in the Yankees lineup?” is what seems to be on Ca$hman’s head for the last 10 years or so.
CC hit Markakis in the thumb. Hopefully he’s out for a while.
CC or Markakis?
I hope u be getting hit by truck. Adn you will be out for a while.
CC doing his best to try to let up another home run
Basically every time the Orioles make contact no matter where the ball is in the zone, no matter who is pitching…they are hitting it hard. Very Perplexing.
Can I make a prediction now, because this is how baseball works. The Yankees play their last 3 games of the regular season against the Red Sox. Make no mistake, the season will be on the line in that series. I don’t care how bad the Sox are this year, they will end the Yanks’ season. I hate to say it, but that shit will happen
I wonder what the ’67 Yankees payroll was, adjusted for inflation.
Although I will say it’s comical that the Yankees have gained two games over Boston during their last 10….They’ve gained about 6 since they started playing awful against Oakland in July…
At least the Sox have an excuse. They gave away their best offensive player and a 50/50 pitcher.
Would THIS be considered a garbage time HR?
Feels like it’s time for a namechange.
Every time I look at a Yankee’s gamecast and Swisher’s up I see the following:
Strike (looking), Strike (swinging), Strike (swinging) – - – Just over and over and over like a Modamn broken record.
And to top it all, his leaves smiling like saying “hehehehe you got me there, first time it has happened to me, good work!”.
Swisher thought he might reach after getting 3-2.
How amusing.
Swisher is an automatic out.
Did I really just here Swisher is 0 for last 23 and 2 for last 38? What the hell is going on with this team. Swisher, Granderson, Cano all fucking stink at the same time. And not just bad, but atrocious.
4 hits in 46 at bats since the last time he had a multi-hit game 12 games ago (counting this one).
That is, in the last 12 games he is hittint 0.086 AVG, 0.207 OBP, with a 0.167 SLG and a BAbip of 0.136
All while still hitting #2.
I know he was O for the week cause I read it on Twitter and knew his hitless streak was in the 20′s but holy shit 2 for his last 38??
wow that’s a bullshit call
Wow ump, no need to give then free outs
Still haven’t seen them score tonight with my own eyes.
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Right as ARod goes yard.
garbage time A-bomb. calm down Kay.
Garbage time? Come on. I know we all hate this team right now, but that’s not garbage time.
I’m sure if he struck out there you would have said A-Rod chokes again late in a game in a big moment.
Way to go Tex.
Not his fault the ump called a terrible pitch a strike
nice of the ump to rob the Yankees of a run right there.. Teix should have been on base for that homerun
Aww, if only Greg were here . . .
It was too close to take
AROD
I repeat, swisher will choke in these pressure filled games. He cannot hit under pressure. And only a moron would resign him for than 8 million a year
I should change my name to NostraTROLLus because nobody predicts an offensive hibernation better than I do!
Nice a 3 run shot. Oh right, the previous 2 clowns had 3-2 counts and didn’t get on.
wow these strike calls are just ridiculous. Yankees are getting robbed.
It’s just a shame to see Alex doing all he can for this club and nobody else wants to step up. Not CC, not Swisher, not Cano.
Wow this ump is blind.
Jesus Robbie take a ball now and again.
Am I too crazy optomistic, or am I onto something here…I feel like they’ve actually started to turn it around a bit. They’re getting guys back from the DL and even showed some late life in the first game before DRob imploded.
The yankees will bring the tying run to the plate in this inning.
And now the tease is on.
The patented Yankee tease. Gotta love it!
good thing CC held them at right at 3 after he gave up the lead. oh wait.
those are the kinds of pitches the Orioles have been crushing all season.
If Kurtis strikes out here I just might lose it.
they gotta PH for him with Dickerson on the bench to play CF. This is a nightmare match up.
I don’t get it, why do we leave Kurtis against a LHP.
Russell has had some excellent at bats this past week.
And Strop really has been a dumpster fire in the past week.
one big hit needed, unfortunately Stropp is out
Granderson again? FUck
Man i really wish half of this had the passion ARod has right now…dude looks fucking pumped.
Chance Granderson doesn’t strike out? 15%? 20%?
You forgot the “.” before 15 and 20.
LOL I say… 5% he DOES NOT strike out.
Umm 15% and .15 are the same thing….
I meant .15%.
Unless my math is seriously failing me, and .15% and 15% really are the same thing.
Umm not if the percent sign is still there
4.68% – I just formulated an excruciatingly difficult equation to figure that out.
Matusz, the LOOGY, just has to throw 3 pitches somewhat close to the strikezone and he’ll strike Curtis out. I’d PH Ibanez for Grandy right now if I were Girardi.
Kkkkurtis has a chance to tie the Yankees K record right now, which belongs to him.
Who cares. Last time he broke it he was an MVP candidate. complete different season now.
You have to pinch hit here, no?
if it’s a lefty coming in Girardi can not let Granderson bat.
Pinch-hit with Pearce??
Girardi PH Dickerson right?
Rangers lead!
Frankie Cervelli playing time?
Damn, Orioles brodcast says Grandy is 6 for 17 with 4 hr’s vs Matusz.
That may be true but that was probably ten years ago
Nunez got confused and is supposed to be going to the batter’s box?
LOL
so fucking predictable. Granderson fucking sucks.
Predictable would be him striking out.
@#?!
At least he didn’t strike out, eh?
Kurtis, worthless once again.
Typical Granderson.
That’s all on Joe. You do not let Granderson hit there.
Fuk you Kurtis
What’s worse? Scoring one run right here and losing or Grandy K’ing again?
Actually, fouling out to the catcher may’ve been the worst outcome. No outcome can change the fact that Granderson is horrible.
fuck you Girardi. What a fucking dumbass.
Fuck you Curtis. Fuck you Joe. You manage the pitching matchups to an RCH and are clueless about hitting
Damn it. Why Stewart?
Where in blazes is Cervelli
He just missed that…damn man.
It’s nice that Girardi wants to protect Granderson’s feeling but you have to PH a RHB there. I can’t believe they guy who matches up every single chance he gets for pitching would level in Grandy in that spot in the game.
leave not level*
If somebody asks him why he left Granderson, he will answer with a typical generic answer like “becuse had he gotten a hit, it would boost his morale and help him the rest of the season”.
It really is bewildering…
Is this “WORST LOSS” eligible considering the pitching match-up and the fact that the O’s lineup was boasting 4-5 little league hitters?
Eppley’s arm’s going to fall off if Girardi doesn’t stop using him
Now JoeG doesn’t has Núñez to bat because he used him as a PR… why didn’t he use Dickerson instead of Núñez and save Eduardo’s bat for a pinch hit situation? HECK, he could have used Núñez instead of Granderson, Dickerson as a PR for Martin, and just use Dickerson as a CF and Cervelli or Stewart as Catcher.
Though it was not as bad as when JoeG loses the DH because he doesn’t know how to “double switch” of players.
The AL binder doesn’t have that anymore now that pitchers don’t hit.
Has Eppley pitched in 48 straight games?
Foul tip? Did that even leave Stewart’s glove?
Do they have a rally in their bones? HA! If anybody gets on Swisher will hit so no they don’t.
the O’s have to lose a game leading after 8 sometime this season, right?
Ichiro begins the 9th inning tease.
Please god get Ichi in
Chavez extends the tease.
Best trade Cashman ever made. Now let’s get that blast.
2 men on no outs how are we going to blow this one?!?
Captain Clutch time please
double steal
Here we go, rally chaps.
!!!!!!!!
Jeter makes the tease even stronger.
Jeter!! oh yea.
Clutch bunt! What was Machado doing?
late inning dick tease time
Let’s go Swisher…You can redeem yourself right.Here.
now would be a good time Swish….
0-23 Swisher.
Oh dear.
Swisher will GITP.
Please Swisher…for the love of god.
Bases loaded no outs. Crap it’s Swisher.
Great bunt, clutch bunt.
Don’t need hero ball here Swish… get the runner in and the guy on 2nd over to 3rd with 1 out.
Swish just beat that out.
But I’ll take it.
Well that wasn’t the worst outcome for Swisher. Now PR for him and get that run in!
Swisher got so lucky there…He still is terible
For the love of God Tex GET THE DAMN RUNNER IN!!!!!!!!!
Best we could have hoped for from Swish
Why no PR for Swish?
never mind
Who do you suggest? Nunez and Dickerson are there. Ichiro just scored. Jeter was out.
yeah, I just realized that.
Just don’t hit a grounder Teix. He won’t beat anything out in his condition.
Bullshit.
WHAT?
You are joking….these umps seriously need to be questioned.
bullshit
And why the fuck did he slide.
Nick Swisher the past three seasons after his first 8 games of september.
2010 –> 3-25, 0.120 AVG, 0.241 OBP, 3 walks, 7 K’s
2011 –> 4-30, 0.133 AVG, 0.235 OBP, 4 walks, 9 K’s
2012 –> 2-31, 0.064 AVG, 0.114 OBP, 3 walks, 9 K’s
Overall in september
2010 –> 0.235 AVG, 0.309 OBP, 8 walks, 23 K’s
2011 –> 0.205 AVG, 0.295 OBP, 9 walks, 15 K’s
Oops
Forgot to add his lifetime stats in september/october (regular season, not post-season):
0.225 AVG, 0.0.329 OBP, 99 walks, 174 K’s, 85 RBI in 203 games.
By far the worst month of his career: lowest AVG, OBP, OPS, lowest walks total, lowest amount of hits and RBI. In the third highest (of 6) amount of games played in any period.
And he’s a top-tier free agent this year. Yikes.
LOOK AT THIS REPLAY!!!!!!!
He looked safe
Fucking horrible umpire.
WOW WE THE UMPS JUST SCREWED US.
OH BULLSHIT
Worst call in the history of baseball. Way to argue Joe.
He saves his arguing for when the call has no bearing on the game.
Armando Galarraga disagrees.
WOW, I hope the replay this 100 times
PIECE OF SH*T UMP. ENJOY GETTING HOME EARLY ASSHOLE
I can’t tell what happened from Gameday – someone enlighten me?
Tex hits a ground ball. Throw to second. Tex obviously safe on first get called out anyways. Game over.
Something’s got to be done about these umpires.
Fucking BULLSHIT call, disgrace.
FUCK JERRY MEALS!
The Yankees need to fucking appeal this game.
Nothing to appeal. Just a blatantly wrong call. Can’t do anything about it.
Sadly you can’t appeal appreciation plays.
Fuck
El Paquín Estrada should teach JoeG how to manage a game… u_u.
Gerry Meals should be fired tomorrow. Knowing MLB he’ll be calling the World Series.
Thank unions for that.
#OBAMA2012
Really? Oh, right, you’re trolling again.
Ummmm, union or not, an umpire would not be losing his job over one call – regardless of the context, it’s still one call. Thanks for politicizing a baseball game, though.
And this is why MLB needs replay. This game is for 1st place and the just blew that fucking call
The umps just handed the game to the orioles. That is fucken bullshit.
between that and the called strikes earlier this was some serious bullshit.
Glad CC’s performance was irrelevant to the outcome of the game though.
Oh, CC pitched like ass (again). But the umps cannot blow a call like that. What if the Yanks miss the playoffs by one game?
It was not irrelevant, he is the ace so he shouldn’t be allowing 4-5 runs. And to make matters worse he didn’t even reach the 8th inning again.
Well, in just 29% of his starts,Sabathia has recorded an out in the 8th inning. And has reached double digits in K’s in 16% of his starts. Though this is the first time he has allowed more runs than he has struck out batters against an AL team. The other game where he allowed more runs than K’s was against the Mets, june 24 in a game the Yankees won 6-5 despite CC just striking out 3 batters and allowing 5 runs, 4 of ‘em unearned.
I agree. I was mocking someone else who said it was irrelevant.
Of course it was relevant.
When this stuff goes against you, you know it not your year.
Moths ago I was saying how awful this team is, the homers defended it, but I don’t see anyone talking about how great this team is now.
And it’s obvious that you are elated about it.
DC, go away. What the fuck is the point of anything you say.
Blatant bad fucking call by the umps.
When things go bad, things go BAD.
It’s still a choke. bases loaded no outs. Two balls on the ground. Fuck this team.
Still should not have lost. We still had one out left with a hot hitting ARod. Those were good odds.
Hahahahahahahahahaha! Tex Returns! Tex Blows! Hahahahahahahahaha!
What a joke. Out managed and out classed.
Tex’s fault for the umpire bad call?
Don’t feed him.
You can’t bitch about the call too much, the team blew a ten game lead in less than a month. By the time the iPhone 5 is announced they’ll be out of the playoffs.
What the fuck does that have to do with an umpire fucking up with the game on the line?
Those two have nothing to do with each other.
And I’m sure that will make you happy.
I do like your name. But fuck yourself
That has to be the worst call I have EVER seen made in a baseball game. If this decides the division race, it will be a disgrace to the sport.
Ahem Jeffrey Maier
No. This play was a clear safe/out call and he blew it. And he blew it by a LOT.
The Jeffrey Maier call was one for which there was no precedent at the time, and one which was difficult to judge since there was no guarantee the fielder makes the catch still. He could have just as easily put him at 2nd base if he ruled it wasn’t a home run. And the outcome might have been the same.
Game #163 2007: Padres Vs Rockies. McClelland blew a call at home plate with the game tied in the bottom of the 13th that sent the Rockies to the playoffs.
I would also say that Meals call against the Pirates in the bottom of the 19th at Atlanta, after that the Pirates imploded and didn’t reach the posteason.
Game 6 of the World Series, with Saint Louis ahead in the series 3-2, and winning in the bottom of the 9th by one run. Jorge “el charolito” Orta is called safe by Don Denkinger, and the KC Royals scored two runs later in that inning (another single, a force out at third, passed ball, intentional walk and a walk off 2R-single).
KC tied the series and won the 7th game.
Aaaand of course there were a couple of plays in favor of the Yankees (the one where Knoblauch “tagged” Offerman in the 1999 ALCS, and the one in the 3rd game of the 2009 ALCS at third base… remember? LOL).
You’re confusing context with quality of call.
Those calls happened in bigger moments, but this call was worse in quality.
It’s hard to see some of these plays live, because the ump is blocked out or whatever. This guy was standing right in position, and it was not even close.
How about Mauer’s “foul ball” was that one harder to see? The thing was fair by about 3 feet. That was in the playoffs.
Jerry Meals is the same umpire who blew that call at home in the 19 inning Pirates/Braves game last year.
CC pitched like crap and the Yankees offense got owned by Joe f’n Saunders. That’s why they lost.
THEY”RE NOT A GOOD TEAM!
GET OVER IT
SHUT THE FUCK UP
Greg. Get the FUCK off this thread. Get off the site. Just . . . go away. You’ve added nothing to the conversation for FAR too long. 3 strikes . . . YOU’RE OUT!
Heh. At least I don’t get my kicks going on websites just for the purpose of annoying people without facts.
The facts are this.
The Yankees have had ONE great month. ONE. That’s it. They played around .500 in all of the other months.
PEOPLE ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR TEAM WHEN IT ISN’T GOOD.
IT GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO DO
MAYBE IT RELEASES STRESS AND ANGER BUILT UP OVER THE WEEK
AS YOU RECOGNIZE THE WORLD IS MEANINGLESS ANYWAY. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE RELATIVELY SOON. SO WHY NOT SPEND OUR TIME HATING CURTIS GRANDERSON?
SATURDAY NIGHT IN AN INTERNET COMMENTS THREAD ABOUT A SPORTS TEAM IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO FIND WELL-ROUNDED RATIONAL PEOPLE
GET OVER IT
Hey Greg? Shut the fuck up. We don’t like you here and you don’t like our attitudes. No matter how many capitals you use nobody wants to be you. Get over yourself. You’re not important enough to tell us how to act. Nobody cares about what you want us to do.
Have you not taken the hint that we don’t want you here?
CC LOVES Meals.
Was watching the Orioles broadcast, never got to see a replay. Was the call really that bad?? From the naked eye it looked bang-bang.
He was safe and it wasn’t even that close, ball was about 3 feet away from Reynolds glove when Tex touched the plate.
REALLY BAD. Not even close to being an out. Teix’s BODY was crossing the bag and the ball was 3 feet from the glove.
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that’s disgusting. I can’t believe an actual MLB game ended on that call.
Holy crap wow, just awful.
Fuck Jerry Meals.
Holy shit. Please tell me that that will not stand . . .
His body was on top of the bag when Reynolds caught the ball. It wasn’t like his hand just touched when Reynolds caught it, his whole fucking body was on the bag.
Safe. Wasnt close. What bullshit.
MLBN refuses to show another angle.
I’ll just trust you guys on this, I guess.
Yeah, they ‘refuse’. It’s a conspiracy.
Yeah I was watching the game on MLBN because both the Extra Innings broadcast and MLBN was the Orioles but at least MLBN was in HD. As soon as the last out was made they left the game and are showing Angels-Tigers highlights and live look-ins.
They’re showing MULTIPLE angles and saying Teix was ‘safer than safe’.
SUCH a conspiracy.
Yeah, maybe NOW.
I wasn’t saying it as some conspiracy. Way to twist my comment out of context.
Why did Tex slide anyways?
Because studies show, again and again, dating back all the way to 1913, that sliding head first into first base automatically increases your chances of being called safe.
I know it’s been shown that staying upright is the better move, but I actually kind of get it here: Tex is gimping, and at the very least, maybe sliding makes a clear-cut “out” call a little harder to make. Ironically, it may have helped Meals blow the call against the Yanks.
He’s a clod who throws a ball around for a living.
meals is a joke and yanks are a joke.
Since when did RAB become a blog for a bunch of pessimistic moronic commenters? I advocate for holocausting these people back to LoHud. They got fucked; plain and simple.
pessimistic moronic
The offense again rallies late despite bad pitching. Which is good. Too bad the umps fucked them over.
They are likely not going to win it this year. People need to accept this.
Rebuild for next year.
Rebuild? How? They aren’t going to spend the money to make the team better and they don’t have any prospects that can make them better next year. They are starting that downward slide this season and it will continue for a few years. The Red Sox will be back in the playoffs before the Yankees.
So?
It’s about time. Baseball is cyclical. You should know this.
And instead of whining about it, it needs to be accepted. I always felt that 2009 was the last hurrah with this cast.
In all seriousness, Greg: None of us are thinking how you want us to. All you do is piss everybody off. Why are you here?
BTW, no matter how many capital letters to use people won’t magically think like you. Shut the fuck up.
And this has what to do with Jerry Meals fucking up?
“They are likely not going to win it this year. People need to accept this.”
That’s true every year. With 3 rounds of playoffs, winning the world series is never the likely outcome. That’s no reason to stop trying or stop caring.
Care less. Put things in perspective. I had to learn this and accept it. I felt a twinge when they lost. But I am not going to get carried away because it hurts the people that I am around. I get in a crappy mood. And I do not want to let any of you guys or the situation affect my moods.
I really really hope you don’t have access to firearms. You fucking weird me out.
You are a fucking moron
Forget the bad call. This game was over in the 3rd. It’s the usual script, Take the lead, give it up next inning, a ton of middle inning 0fers, then the dick tease in the 8th and 9th. Sweaty Freddy tomorrow can’t wait.
No, actually, it wasn’t over in the 3rd.
It was OVER when Meals blew the call at 1st, preventing the Yanks from tying the game on the spot, and not allowing A-Rod at least a try to knock in the go-ahead run.
Yanks might’ve lost anyway in the bottom of the 9th or in extra innings, but the game wasn’t over in the 3rd.
Legit.
F**king.
Speechless.
Hopefully this lights a fire under them tomorrow and they score a bunch of runs. I do like the fight at the end of ballgames. We were screwed and at least we’re still tied for 1st with a chance to leave with a split tomorrow. Rays lost so that’s good. Then we get the Red Sox who are fielding an AAA team. We just have to move on and win tomorrow.
I’m thinking CC should be back to normal for his next start.
Magrane keeps saying how great it is that the O’s won – think he’s a hater?
Anyone who doesn’t openly root for the Yanks is obviously a hater.
The Yanks are perpetual victims.
However, they are hated a lot for a team that helps drive buisness in MLB.
That was sort of rhetorical.
i laughed
Everyone is supposed to root for the Yankees. No room for any other opinions or perspectives.
Yanks top of 9- Brutal, but yet not one bit surprised in the result.
Swisher, who’s in his walk year and has a reputation of coming up small in big spots (sort of like CC) has picked a great time to fall off.
And Tex- well, like I said, not surprised.
Debbie downer you are. Yanks battled back. Something they haven’t done in a while. And they got robbed. That’s all there is to it.
That’s it. Blame a season of continuous failure to hit with RISP on a bad call.
Right. Because the bad call didn’t just cost them a tie game. It had no impact on anything.
Y’all, can I get a list of bad calls you can remember from this past season? I’m going to email MLB and ask them what they plan to do about it. In an extremely rational tone, of course.
As Kenny said – that was the guy that killed the Pirates last year @ Atlanta – it was 1 of the worst calls ever.
I knew the name sounded familiar.
tex really busted it he gave his all. freaking ump blew it big time.
on a side not could cc hold a lead…just once.
That’s why I am pro-robot.
Exactly. “The human element” is bullshit.
Baseball HAS to fix this. A call like that can’t be upheld. Something like this call, which was immediately blown to my eyes even during the live feed, has to be overturned. Why is it so important to let bullshit like this stand? It makes no sense.
No, can’t add replay. Will slow the game down. It will add like 7 minutes to the total running time of the game. Fans don’t want that. They’ll be outraged if these games last 3 hours 37 minutes instead of 3 hours 30 minutes. Baseball will be ruined if we add replay
Just as with the NFL, every call in the 9th inning (similar to the last two minutes) can be reviewed.
I think I typed my idea as you were typing yours
Yeah. It makes so much sense it’s inexcusable that it isn’t the rule.
Bud Selig is too busy adding “Stakes” to the All-Star game that he doesn’t have time to address a real issue – fat-fuck umpires who can’t see what the rest of America can
That makes no sense. There could be a huge blown call in any inning. NFL reviews all TD’s, too, not just at the end.
Each MLB manager gets one ‘challenge flag’ to use in each game. That wouldn’t add much time to games.
Implementing an improved system shouldn’t be delayed while they wait for a perfect system.
Yeah but they don’t review catches, or ball spots, or fumbles or any other BIG PLAYS during the game unless a coach challenges. The point of having it at the end of the game is that neither team has the opportunity after a blown call to rectify it with their play. THe game is over and there’s nothing you can do about it. Now go home and get your shine box.
You can’t review EVERY call because that actually will add a significant amount of time to the game. So you do home runs at any point of the game, or any close play in the last inning/extra innings. Because like I said earlier, if it’s the end of a game, the teams have no time to rectify it with their play. The game is just over.
In all seriousness, they don’t need to add coaches challenges or replay every play. But maybe like the NFL does, anything inside of 2 minutes of a half or all of overtime (In baseball the last inning/extra innnings)that is controversial should be looked at. Keep it to just home run rulins before that.
I really hate this idea that once the game’s over there’s nothing you can do about it. Why? Why not get it right, no matter what? Especially when the games are ultra important like this one?
I mean, maybe the Yanks lose anyway in some different fashion, but you can’t end a game with such an egregious blown call.
Again, this idea is VERY dumb.
Explain to me why this is dumb, buddy?
The coach’s challenge is the dumb idea. There is no way to predict how many bad calls there will be in a game. So to add strategy to choosing which plays to review is just silly. It’s not a manager or coach’s fault that there was a questionable call early that he had to use his flag on that he then couldn’t use in the 7th or 8th inning? So either pick a set of plays to always review if there’s question (like home-runs), and pick a time like the end of the game when the calls themselves are final. But don’t add challenges…It adds arbitrary strategy to the game that there doesn’t need to be…
Some replays are tough, but this one would take literally 2 seconds to verify. Nobody could argue against that, except probably Joe Morgan or some idiot like that.
Yeah, I would be in a massive uproar during every seven minutes of replay.
How horrible would it be to sacrifice seven minutes for a well-called game? Nothing I want to see, that’s for sure.
Obviously, it’s tougher than I thought to write using sarcasm
I was just being sarcastic in response. I agree, dude.
where can I watch post game interview without having YES
They never say anything interesting. ‘We tried really hard” “We gave it our all.”
Anyone who says anything different is harassed by the media.
I want to hear about Hughesey and Gardee and Jetee though
Not true. Joe is visibly pissed about the bad call. More so Kenny and mike.
Watch out! He’s visibly pissed about a call. Will he call out the union? NO. He’s a spineless bitch.
There is some sort of post game extra usually posted on yes’s website. I assume that would be part of it, just may not be up right away.
Tex got hosed twice by the umps. First on the strike 3 call, which would of set up a 2 run shot by Arod. Then on that play. Congratz umps you’ve somehow managed to take 2 runs away from this team.
Stop blaming the team guys. We tied the game. We had a shot to win. We were fucked over by possibly the worst call in a big spot I’ve ever seen.
BULLSHIT.
Can we still blame CC for sucking again in a big spot?
Nope. Aced it. Ask Robinson Tilapia
I don’t see how anyone could defend CC’s recent performance. This is the third or fourth crucial game in a row where he’s come up small.
Yes. Yes we can. But we should be playing right now. Not our fault.
Yes, but it doesn’t change the impact of the call at 1st, and what it cost the Yanks this game.
Finally a voice of reason
And there’s no guarantee they win. With Baltimore’s absurd luck, they probably do still win.
But we’ll never know now. That call may have turned the entire division race on its ear. Inexcusable.
Well, no, there’s no guarantee. So? The umps took away OVER a fifty percent chance we win (we were batting still) and turned it into a loss.
We didn’t lose. The umpires took the game away.
We lost 2 runs thanks to the umps this game.
Boo-hoo. For the $200 Million they spend they should be crushing the O’s.
Brian Cashman needs to go. He’s been consistently dumping good players for old players. It finally caught up to them.
Saying over and over that we should have run by more doesn’t change the fact that we should have an excellent chance of winning. This has nothing to do with Cashman and everything to do with our chances to win the division this year.
Dude, I wasn’t disagreeing. I was furthering your point.
I know you’re a good poster (i.e. not Greg or Big Members Only) and if I sounded pissed at you sorry. I wasn’t. I’m just pissed in general. I did misunderstand what you said slightly so yeah, cool if we’re in complete agreement.
The revenge of Jeffrey Maier
Joe getting annoyed at the CC health post game questions..
CC could fix that.
While the ump blew the call, he probably doesn’t if Tex doesn’t dive into first base like a complete idiot. I’m a huge fan of Teixera’s, but that is the ultimate false hustle play.
Any umpire will tell you a blind man could get most of the calls right at first because they can hear the sound of the foot hitting the bag vs the ball hitting the glove. Diving takes that away and gives the ump a chance to screw it up.
The ump still blew it, but there was ZERO reason to dive, and if anything it increased the chances of the ump blowing the call, may have gotten him to the bag slower, and exposed himself to injury.
In a game littered with low baseball IQ (pitch selection by CC/Martin, Girardi PH decisions) this was a fitting end.
Seriously?
Spur of the moment. He wanted to beat out the grounder, sliding is considered to get you faster to the base.
This would make perfect sense if he wasn’t safe by a mile.
Umpires don’t listen for the foot, they can’t hear that. They watch the base and listen for the ball to hit the glove.
I mean his whole body was on the bag…how do you miss that? If anything Sliding made Tex look safer and the play not as close.
I agree. CC was mediocre again, but this one’s on the offense and Girardi. Getting beat by Saunders is embarrassing.
No- it’s on CC. Stop making excuses for his crappy pitching.
Agreed.
I still believe in CC but he absolutely HAS to do better.
Giving up 5 runs to that lineup is worse than mediocre.
You’re kidding, right? Bad calf and he wants to beat the throw but he shouldn’t get there anyway he can. Really?
Nope.
If he wanted to beat the throw the best way to do it is to run through the bag.
I’ll see if I can dig up some links to studies on this. The absolute best case is it is the equivalent of running through the bag if you dive very late and are hitting the bag at about the same time your body is hitting the dirt(so the ground doesn’t slow you up).
People are misinterpreting my comments. I’m not saying the umps deserve a pass – they clearly blew the call. But the call is even easier and he’s probably getting there faster if he runs through the bag though. I realize it’s instinctual but it’s just a dumb baseball play (unless you are avoiding a tag)
His calf was barking at him too, remember.
Diving head first also strains the legs too… you are shifting from an upright to crouch position and effectively launching yourself.
This requires you to push off one leg (which strains the calf) and it also flexes the other leg (though the non pushoff leg is probably more strained in the quad area).
During the entire at-bat I was praying Tex didnt hit a grounder cause I assumed it would be an automatic DP for sure since he could barely run. Tex did hustle his ass off.
Like that matters. He hustled…the Yankees out of $180 Million.
No, he didn’t. He’s a great 1st baseman, with power, heart, and grit. I’m glad to have him.
Oh heart and grit that’s nice. This year he’s .255/.330 WRISP 2/outs he’s .133/.242. Overhyped overpaid and we have him until what 2050? Bad news. Good glove though. Yay.
But that’s not in this game. This game, he was safe. 100% safe. Using THIS game to prove a point about Tex is stupid.
Mark Teixera has not played to his salary period. He is no longer an effective hitter. .255/.330 and his post season numbers: .207/.315 (4 years 7 series). He sucks.
I agree he’s definitely overpaid, but you realize there is a third part of that triple slash line right?
Power counts too.
He doesn’t suck. He’s a great defender and an above average offensive player. Unfortunately, he is being paid to be an elite offensive player.
Yep. All good stuff.
Lovely. This game should not be used to make that point.
Again, not relevant to this play, and what it cost the Yanks.
Be bitter, be angry. Tex can be better in the post season but not only does he give it his all – he’s good at what he gives. He makes spectacular plays, saves errors, saves runs, doesn’t hit for as high an average as he’d like but he gets his HR’s & RBI’s in–leads the team, I believe.
And no you have Alex forever not Tex.
Meredith Marakovits tweeted:
Teixeira: calf was tight all night…Last play didn’t help. Doesn’t expect to play tomorrow… Hopes he doesn’t miss multiple days.
Who is running this team? Omar Minaya?
Damn. What was the rush?
lol. This season has turned into a fucking nightmare.
Seriously…September tied for first place. If that is a nightmare…
Maybe you haven’t noticed that the only reason they’re tied is that they blew a huge lead. So yeah, awesome pep talk.
Tied with the ‘worst team ever’ led by the ‘worst manager ever’ owned by ‘the worst ownership ever’.
And $200 million spent.
You think they’ll retain first place playing like this? They’ve been downward spiraling for a long time. Name one aspect of the team that’s a strength right now.
They might lead the league in pitching changes, but I can’t confirm that.
haha, they probably do.
Well, for what it’s worth the AP recap that’s up on ESPN.com makes no mention that Teix was safe.
It just says “On a 3-2 pitch, Teixeria hit a grounder to second that turned into a game-ending double play in spite of Teixeira’s desperate slide into first.”
Well…he wasn’t safe. He was called out. That’s the archaic game that you love.
I’m remembering why I’ve been posting less recently.
Yes. The internet is a toilet.
Indeed it is.
Me too…
Wow, Tex — wow!
Huh (from Andrew Marchand): “We are waiting on Randy Levine conference call. We think about umpires. Impromptu.”
Levine = George wannabe
But wouldn’t you like to be on the call to listen?
Man, I miss George now! And no, there were MANY years I couldn’t/wouldn’t say that.
When people ask would Girardi and/or Cashman get fired if they miss the playoffs I always thought no because Hal doesnt seem like someone who would do so and I dont see Cashman firing Girardi.
Levine though I definitely see firing one of them if not both to make a point and try to look like the Boss.
Are we sure Marchand tweet was not a sarcastic one? As of lately he has been writing funny sarcastic tweets, like
“heeey he didn’t strikeout”, when Granderson popped-out.
and “Yanks have the guy they want up in this spot …. Russell Martin.”
LOL that one made me laugh.
To whoever said something about ESPN – the crawl said Tex beat out the double play.
WOOOW Andrew Marchand just wrote:
“Postgame Chaos: Girardi got into it with Joel Sherman of the Post, too. They were separated at one point.”
Per Marchand:
“Girardi had to answer a question a few times and then got snippy with Sherman
Joel said it is part of the gig. Girardi got annoyed, but called Joel into his office after presser. There it got heated & there was yelling
Security got in the middle of it before anything happened. More on Bronx Zoo later in full column. Oh, and CC says he is healthy.”
Joe Magrane is somewhat defending Meals on MLB Net by basically saying the Yankees usually get all the calls, and it’s about time something went against them. Great analysis.
Idiotic.
Magrane is one of the worst and most aggressively anti-Yankee analysts out there. He should be on the chopping block along with Meals.